Kofe editionGuides and Info:>Classic Memehttps://imgur.com/a/6CNO8>Poorfag guide:https://www.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK>Watch essentials 102:https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV>Purchasing used watches:https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2>Purchasing straps:https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE"Suggest a watch for me.">Your budget>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd-time zone>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet>Wrist size or desired watch sizePrevious thread: >>18158209
>>18159663Reminder that I have successfully planted a thought of buying a Seiko for $1.5k in some idiot's head from the other side of the world and the loser actually did it and posted ITT lolololololololo thinking that he'll be praised for buying AFUCKINGSEIKOAYY LMOAAAAAAAAAAA
Reminder never to spend more than 250$ on a watch.
>>18159665LMFAO BASED.I did the same with a 36mm Explorer. LMFAO imagine some dude spent around 10K on a ROOOWLEEEXX just because I shilled it!KEK!
>>18159666Thanks, Satan. I shall heed your wisdom.But yeah nigga real talk. If the moon missions were done today the watch would be a plastic Gshock and everyone knows that.
>>18159673I am not so sure about that. Remember Apollo 13? Didn't all the electronics on board die due to EMI or am i thinking of something else? And if it did wouldn't the same happen to gshocks, them being electronic garbage and all?
>>18159673They are still using Omegas in open space though.
>>18159673>>18159677Space is not real, retards.
Does anyone have any experience with this, is it good, will it have a lot of scratches like GS?
>>18159677¿Whats the reason of not making a bigger watch?, original fliegers were around 50mm wide, and also some dive watches were also very big, and then you have a watch with the tiniest numbers and size meant to be used in a hard environment.
>>18159691Well according to this >>18159666 they just walked in the store and bought standard speedies.
Anyone else feeling retarded taking photos of your watch in public?
>>18159688will you baby it like a little bitch? if so, no, maybe it won't be that scratchedwhy do you care about scratches though? buy a DLC coated case then
>>18159697I only do that at home.
>>18159733Is that a good watch?
>>18159739One of the best.
>>18159688All watches get scratched. It's inevitable. If you don't suddenly forget you have a left hand attached to you after putting it on and avoid to directly acquaint it to every hard surface you happen to pass by, you'll be fine.
>>18159697mostly just inside the house
>>18159755>That dial colour B A S E DAre you happy with your GS?
>>18159745Do you have a luum shot of this?
>>18159777Yep. It's a proper chunker though. Heavy on the wrist.
>>18159775that's some interesting hair pattern you got there, bud
>>18159803It's bittercel, just ignore it.
>>18159787he'll need a decent camera to be able to capture lume on that
>>18159805What's up with guys with great watches using old ass potato cameras? Seen this too often to ignore anymore.
>>18159787My camera's pretty shitty, so apologies in advance. This is more or less the gist of it. It's really bright, but it doesn't last long. More of an afterthought, really. More style, less practical.
>>18159807Well, in my case, I got my phone way before getting into watches. The camera was on the bottom of my preferred features on a phone list back then. I had no particular need of it then. Don't need it now either, at least enough to justify changing my phone just for it.
>>18159813this watch genuinely looks so fucking badlooks exactly like the 2$ toy watches you'd find at a corner store
>>18159666reminder you are a fucking moron who got completely mogged in the other thread because you don't understand the concept of inflation (you are coloured).
>>18159813what is that? I want to avoid that watch maker
>>18159816>>18159818The only watch brand that matters is the one that Japanese women like. This watch was the only one that m***-san said is cool and wanted to try it on. Meaning that Tudor is the only brand that actually matters in this world.If your watch doesn't get you Jap Pussy, then you have the wrong watch.
>>18159819plenty of tudors look good, that one in particular just looks goofyalso come on now anon, don't wear watches for other people
>>18159663Kofe
>>18159819ugly watch, most likely, nothing personal kid, on an ugly person. Also, weird asian bug person fetish. Overall a 1-10 poast.
>buy an omega>women still don't notice mewill they notice me if i get a rolex?
>>18159842Read>>18159819
>>18159819Tudor is nice but boring tier according to picrel
>>18159853When it comes to women; I don't care about what women think they want, I don't care about what women say they want, I only care about what women respond to. Women aren't true to themselves or to each other, so don't expect them to be honest to you.
>>18159853Not a single biological female on this planet knows anything about watches.
>>18159853I'm gonna show this to my gfI wonder how many she knows
>>18159858>>18159853>rolex. casio ,citizen>That's all
>>18159863And i bet anything she knows casio and citizen not for their watches.
>>18159866>And i bet anything she knows casio and citizen not for their watches.She says she knows it's watch related but doesn't know how, her best guesses are from "housewives" shows or from talking to her brother
>>18159866What else would you know citizen for?
>>18159877Calculators for example
>>18159853Theres 0% chance a biological woman made this.
>>18159880Do they even sell anything but watches in america? Their watches are in literally every mall jewelry counter but I've never seen any other product made by them.
>>18159882My headcanon is some fucker got a single watch per brand and then asked a girl to rank them, likely cherry picking the watches and clearly picking the tier labelsAt least this way the person would get to cope it's "true", there's really no point in making it all up
>>18159887>>18159882To say the truth that list was made by cockwatch.
>>18159889So flip it upside down? Seems pretty true then yeah
>>18159858Mine only knew Rolex, Seiko, Casio, and Cartier. Bonus point for her asking why Bulova wasn't on the list I guess.
>>18159896>>18159858Actual female tier list."I don't know what makes a watch good or not"
>>18159913forgot to put rolex at the top
>>18159896My gf knows shit about watches, even a 50eur Casio is expensive to her. He doesn't know the value of my shitters, she thinks that my aliexpress watches are about 20eur each,that my limited edition Tissot tank was from my grampa and that my black bay 58 is a chinese homage.The day she discovers how much I spent I'm done.
>HAHAHA DUMB FEMOIDS DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT WATCHES KEK LMAOtell me i'm poor without telling me I'm poor
Idk abt you senpai but if a gal is into watches that a huge red flag fr, at least fo meShe diggin gold fo sure blud
The more watches you have, the worse. You stop being able to fully enjoy them if you're always changing it up
>>18159937I own like 50 watches but daily just 2 - 3.(I'm not mort).
Girls find watch collectors creepy.There are better ways to spend your money if you're interested in impressing girls.
>>18159677What does space walking do to the watch oils?
>>18159937I agree with you but you need to post your watch. I have issues even with just 2 watches. They're both beautiful and I want to look at both of them but I can't double-wrist. I would look like a fool.
>>18159946Post your beautiful watches.
Vintage steel black dial big rose Tudor with gold lettering, decent condition, decent enough for me at least, for 1000 from JPN into EU?Good deal? Decent first proper watch? Anyone got experience with importing from JPN to EU? What can I expect cost wise?
This shit is so overpriced.
>>18159953why is there a penis at 12oclock
>>18159691>Whats the reason of not making a bigger watch?omega wants to make money
>>18159853>femanonyeah sure
>>18159913Obviously this is made by an incel. GUCCI GUCCI GUCCI watches get noticed right away by women and get your dicked sucked. It's why I own 4.
>>18159929exactly. Women worth breeding know fancy watches, because they are hunting for men.
>>18159942cocaine
>>18159954Because fags like you will buy it regardless
>integrated bracelet>leather strap on any sports watch>ceramic bezel>ceramic case>high beat movement>date window at 4:30>date window at all>complications
>>18159964>integrated braceletIs great
>>18159965One anon I know owns a Moser and it is the best ultra luxury timepiece ever.
>>18159976Personally i think its very ugly, but the bracelet is so beautiful i want it more than i want both of my lungs.
>>18159965They could have made the same watch with a removable bracelet. These old Omega have a similar case shape.
>>18159944Most liquids will boil when exposed to a vacuum, but you only have to seal the inside of the watch against a pressure difference of one atmosphere to prevent that, so it's probably a non-issue.>>18159691Government procurement is a hell of a drug. If NASA'd tried to have a space-flieger designed specifically for their use instead of going COTS they'd probably still be bogged down in contract disputes to this day.
>>18159964>>date window at 4:30what do you think of the this one?
>>18159964thoughts on date window on a see through back of the case?
>>18159976Only very hard workers in life are qualified to own a Moser. I know of one person who's my age and already acquired one. And even now he's (Potentially) sacrificing his health to reach his other goals.
>>18159996>hard workersThat's a funny way to describe the wealthy exploiting the working class.
>>18159996Uh? They're not that expensive. The Streamliner is 20k.
>>18160036Try reading that again. Twenty thousand dollars for a 100 gramms of steel of your wrist.
>>18159950Guys should I lowball this guy or not? I like the watch but I have no idea what Tudors go for
>the you'll never be one of those /wt/ patrons who were born into wealth, rocking haute horloherie timepieces daily, shitting on everyone else ITT and being bitter
>>18160039>grammsFucking junkie kys.Also since when have watches been about their weight? It's about incredible engineering approaching fucking magic on your wrist.
>nice Casioak bro
3Hz watches have a more pleasing ticking sound than 4HZ watches.
>>18160047You're right friend.
>>18160039>he thinks the price of manufactured goods are determined by the price of their raw materialsRetard.
>>18159937True, especially if you find one that you really really like.
>>18159950Looks nice, i like the case shape. I can't advise you on buying one, only you can make that decision.
>>18159996they cost less than a roles kek
>>18160053Nobody says you should price the watch by weight or raw materials you monumental retard but you have to be soft in the head to say 20 thousand dollars for a watch is cheap.
>>18160067Digga Rolexes go for 6000€Even popular discontinued models. Zenith's cost more by now.
>>18160069>Nobody says you should price the watch by weight or raw materialsYou did. Right here: >>18160039
>>18160074>popular models>picture of a MilgaussRetard.
>>18160075Are you fucking microcephalic?
>>18160080>REEEEEE THIS WATCH HAS AN ASKING PRICE OF 20K BUT IT'S ONLY 100 GRAMS OF STAINLESS STEEL WHAT THE FUCK>N-NOOOO I DIDN'T SAY THAT, S-SHUT UP!You're the one who made a correlation between price and weight of raw materials. It's okay, we all say stupid shit. Just admit you were wrong. Or leave this thread. I don't care.
>>18160041I honestly prefer being from a working class family and earning shit. Maybe a steel rolex or omega isn't super special in the grand scheme of luxury watches, even a gold rolex isn't especially high end for gold watches depending on the model, but it feels good to get to a point where you've built up some stability and seniority at work, all your debts except maybe the house are payed off, you kept up on the maintenence and repairs on your property (you probably did a lot of the eork yourself) and now you get to treat yourself with a really nice gift to remember how far you've come. That's a lot better than being some rich tranny who's mommy and daddy buy them 3 vascherons just because they can. The meaning and appreciation in such things is so much less when someone hands them to you.
Reissue when?
>>18160082Well double nigger you can go and choke on a vomit if that rotting garbage in your cranium isn't capable of understanding what is written.
>>18160086Not going to happen, just like they'll never reissue the Weekdater.
does anyone own a VOSTOK and are they any good? Theres one on amazon for $100 leaf dollars with a fighter jet on the dial
>>18160065i’m just curious if they’re overpriced because of watches being so popular right now or whether I‘m paying a decent price. With IWC and UG I know I‘m often paying an okay price, not what I would‘ve paid ten years ago, sure, an actually good price for a vintage watch, but at least I‘m not having my balls squeezed by Rolex or Cartier.
IT'S UP GUYS!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-DXZ9J9GUc
>>18160104You have to be prepared because you're not buying a watch, you're buying a watches embryo. In order to be a proper watch people almost always swap the bezel, crystall and the movement for the ones that work.
>>18160107It's funny how you can tell the sales rep doesn't want to be talking to him.
If I go to the a Patek store will they let me try on the merchandise?
What are the best IWC replicas? I just want a relatively simple pilot watch like one of the Spitfires or whatever.
>>18160116yes
>>18160121Not the IWC replicas but if you want cheap pilot watches look into Avi-8, i like them.
>>18160126THE AVI-8.>>18160116Better question is will they sell you one?
>>18160129No, really, i like them. I own two of them.
>>18160121There are a million generic pilot watches like that at every price point from chinesium to swiss luxury.
>>18160107Can't stand this rat. Remember the video with him and mosso? Lmao
>>18160107as much as I dislike this guy it feels like NYC is a good fit for him
>>18159688It's a great watch, if a bit large. The finishing of the case and indices is quite well done for the price too. That said, I have the dark blue dial, which is a bit different, so your mileage may vary.It'll scatch like any other watch, don't worry about it too much.
fuuuark, this looks damn nice, especially with the jubilee worth the 4.5k?
>>18160209If you have to ask, the answer is "no".
>>18160209They made a lot of improvements to the watch, from the normal 41mm version. Still, though, Tudors depreciate pretty bad and you'll be able to get a practically unworn one on c24 for around 3k or less in a few months once the hype subsides.
>>18160210good point>>18160219really think it will drop that much? at that price itd be a no brainerthough I guess I kinda get it, there are very few brand that keep their value well
I just like it, bros.
>>18160224>really think it will drop that much?Sure. The Black Bay 58 and Black Bay GMT were super hyped when they came out and now they're both available used for around 2.5-3k.Tudors are not rare. They're not meant to be. The factory makes as many as customers demand. They're owned by Rolex, but they don't play Rolex games.
are tudors actually good quality though?
>>18160142You never really own one
>>18160238You just look after them until the quartz movement fails and a landfill takes it.
>>18160237They're fine. Not as good as Omega, better than Seiko. That's about where they slot in, quality-wise.
>>18160182TGV wishes he could be as soulful as Mosso
But where does MR-G fit in on the seiko - tudor - omega scale?
>>18159994I abhor date windows in general. 3 and (especially) 6 are the only sensible positions to put them. Rest goes in the "why even bother" territory.
>>18160246Somewhere between the ass crack and the prostate
>>18160126>>18160162Why would I get a noname brand? I want it to say IWC obviously, but they're selling $250 watches for $5-10k.
>>18160266This general doesn't know anything about reps. You need to research elsewhere.
Still thinking about the time some watchfag here argued me that a $500 Apple Watch that does everything from read your emails to reading your heart rate is a "status symbol" while a $10k Rolex is "utilitarian"
>>18160303The only people who view Apple products as a status symbol are poos and women, so you can safely assume you were speaking with a brown,
>>18160306Hello saar, please do not redeem saar
>>18159877I had a Citizen dot matrix printer in the 90s.
This is fucking sexy.
Why didn't you niggers tell me about this? Sitting here circle jerking to boring shit when this exists.
>>18160341Now let's see a real pic & not a render.
>>18160341What's so special about it?
>>18160345Here>>18160346Its beautiful.
>>18160350It looks exactly like every other dive watch, and they spelled "mariner" wrong.
>brushed hardened steel case>beautiful>600 euros even in my stupid countryMicrobrands was the answer all along. As soon as it is available i am buying one.
SEIKO made a Cartier! Here's What You Need to Know!
>>18160383I hate this retard like you wouldn't believe.
>>18160266You are everything that is wrong with watches. Instead of just buying literally the same identical watch from another company for a couple hundred bucks you'd rather give a couple hundred bucks to mafia and triad criminal orgs and slave labor to float you the watch with a different brand name on it so that people you don't know or care about can think you actually had a watch from some other company they never heard of and will never ask about.
>>18159965Lmao Ebel cope
>>18160385It's sad to say he's still one of the better watch reviewers for getting an honest take on the real shit you want to know about a watch before buying it beyond the dimensions without 45 minutes of jerking off. Just goes to show how bad the state of watch reviews is.
>>18160350it somehow reminds me of a Captain Cook Rado
Someone offered me 30k € (if someone remember i've already posted that some months ago, it was my dad watch). I've all the complete box/papers/certificates/purchase receipts/etc.IDK how to do, should i wait higher offers or since it's a very old model this is the max i can have?
>>18160435Only worse. Also Captain Cook sounds stupid. I guess it's called after James Cook but still.
>>1816043630k for a vintage daytona complete with box/papers is pretty low to be honest. Even beside the low price, you shouldn't sell a watch your dad owned.
>>18160441Isn't this watch basically the ''paleo-pre'' Daytona? I hadn't any tie/connection with my dad so this isn't a problem.I had literally totally different price estimates everywhere i went
>>18160441A ''watch shop'' even told me ''uh anon the strap is original but too damaged'' lol. They really try hard to f**ck you
>>18160442Just look through chrono24 for similar daytonas; their prices hover closer to 100k than 30k.
>>18160445Thanks anon 'ill look for it
>>18160446Oh yea, especially since it has the box & papers, that increases its value. I wouldn't be surprised if you could get over $100k for it.
>>18160447Thanks anonI've also this one of my grandmother, but this is a very precious remember and it's also a very low-tier watchs so i'll keep it
>>18160387>"Rolexes are way too expensive! There's no way they're worth what they ask!">there are 20 other companies making literally the same watches for fractions of the price>"BUT THEY DON'T SAY ROLEX ON THEM :("We share air with these people. They are breathing our air.
>>18160453Althought san martin is making cases on par with rolex, rolex is still all about movement and name whether you or me like it or not.
> GADA (go anywhere do anything)> Daily driver > Strap monster Any other retarded buzzwords that redditards use that are absolutely despicable?
>>18160383This retard looks so disgusting
>>18160462Yeah, you're literally paying for the name. If you don't want to pay for the name you can still wear the watch for cheap. Nobody else knows or cares anything about the movement, even if it had the same movement you and everyone else will never see it, and it looks the exact same with your fit. Most people probably won't even get close enough to see it's not a rolex.Again, if you just want a watch that looks a certain way and you don't want tonpay for the name there's nothing stopping you from doing that legitimately. You don't need to dig around on unlisted websites and give someone on WhatsApp a visa gift card number to do it. You buy the same shit on Amazon, it just doesn't have the name. By bitching about the name you're just acknowledging there is value in the name beyond the watch itself.
>>18160464>Daily driver>Strap monsteri have never heard these two, perhaps you should stay off reddit.
>>18160464Men can be women.
>>18160466>you're just acknowledging there is value in the name beyond the watch itselfI am acknowledging that, i am also not that guy wishing to buy IWC
>>18160466I'm not that anon, but I think you're right. And what's the best brand to buy if you like the Rolex look?
>>18160357You should get a phoibos they have octopus on the dial much cooler
>>18160479Not as good looking
>>18160453My friend are complaining about brand recognition in the fashion world?
Are titanium cases better than steel cases?
>>18160474Sugess, san martin, chronos... Even with bigger brands like Seiko they won't make literal exact clones but they'll offer pretty similar alternatives like the new day date sarb reissue and they have a number of dive watches that are pretty much aping the submariner without directly copying. Thw GMT seiko 5s have a different case design but they still have batman colors and shit. If you just browse amazon for automatic watches you'll see dozens of options, probably the first thing you'll see is multiple pages of san martins and paganis copying various rolexes and a bunch of seiko 5s.
>>18160492>the new day date sarb reissue?
>>18160483I'm not complaining about brand recognition, I'm saying it's stupid to bitch about not wanting to pay for the name because the product isn't worth it but still bitch about an equivalent cheaper product because it doesn't have the name. If you have no respect for the company and their name why even bother trying to fake it? Just buy and wear something else. Even in other areas of fashion, it's not like nobody but Louis Vuitton makes good leather products.Personally I like wearing unbranded clothes because I'd rather not be a fuckin billboard for a company. Even on printed Ts instead of buying a shirt with the name or logo of a franchise on it I'll try to buy something that references the thing a little more obscurely so that you kind of have to also be in the know to get it. Watches happen to look like shit with no branding on the dial, they actually look cheaper with a bunch of empty space above the pinion, but I'd rather wear plain leather than have "LV" printed all over me.
>>18160495The new day date seiko 5s
>people don't care what watch you're wearing so you shouldn't buy Rolex/IWC/whateverWhat kind of reasoning is that lmaoI don't care what people think. I care about what I like. If I want a Rolex and I can afford it, then I'm buying one.
>>18160498>be in the know to get it.That's basically my approach as well. Nobody knows how expensive my clothing or watches are, except those in the know. And that's the best feeling.
>>18160500You're in illiterate retard.
>>18160499That's not a sarb reissue.
>>18160503Saahbu
>>18160516Saruubuuu
>Brand: Citizen>Model:The Citizen AQ4080-52A>MSRP:~2k €>Movement/KaliberA060 thermocompensated HAQ>Accuracy:+-5 SPY>Where:On the wrist.>When:Now.>Why:I want to tell the time.>Time:Kofe time.
>>18160522But it's quartz.
>>18160499yeah looks like any other shitty seiko 5, plus pissnshit lumethis has nothing to do with sarb
>>18160533You look simply unbelievably retarded.
>>18160527Yes.
>>18160537>>18160533Nice fit and color coordination
>>18160538Arigatō
Milk time
>>18160546Based
>>18160546Holy Based
>>18160546extremely based
>>18160527>>Accuracy:>+-5 SPYobviously it's quartz, yes SPY, not SPD
>>18160546Master Chuff
>>18160546Ι hope this isn't some dust "milk" poison stuff. Let your wife feed it.
Absolutely chuffed with my full hunter pocket watch in a double Albert fob.
>>18160533>grandpa shoes, zoomer watchCreepy old man status pending.
What's the point of paying 200+ dollars for a Seiko when it doesn't even come with sapphire? Chinese brands that use Seiko movements cost around 50-100 dollars and come with sapphire. What's the point? Why did Seiko do this?
>>18160522>no day window
>>18160580
>>18160580Brand recognition. It's fashion.
>>18160580Seiko swears up and down that their hardlex is better than sapphire for the trade off of being slightly less hard for the benefit of being more durable and resistant to striking and dropping. And yet their high end watches all have sapphire, CURIOUS.
>>18160580there is none, it's even retarded to do somaybe in 10 years time they'll have exhausted their shitlex stock and start using the also dirt cheap sapphires that the chinks have been so successful in using for the last 5 or more yearshardlex is fucking dogshit, got a huge gash on a presage(440€ msrp) by touching a porcelain sink, the only upside is that since it's soft shit, it's polishable somewhattotal mineral crystal death, sapphire supremacy
Since when does /er/ approve of Tudor?
>>18160592Since the Godlike 38mm gmt
>not a SINGLE human hand has touched this watch>Even the guilloche is machine made>35K MSRPI get it, I get it. Brand recognition. But when brands exist that cost less than 3K with actual human handmade guilloche, then at some point one has to start arguing that Value has to be another factor and quality has to become a factor too, especially when you pay 35K for a watch that's essentially on par with watches that cost 1/5th
>>18160596And BB58
>>18160597There is no precious metal watch with hand cut guilloche dial for $3k.
>>18160597But people DO consider value, anon. Please don't embarrass yourself by pretending they don't.If you buy a Rolex, decide you don't like it after a year and sell it, you can get close to what you paid in return. The cost of ownership for that year is basically zero.If you buy a hand-guilloched Breguet and sell it after a year, you're going to be selling it at a considerable loss. The cost of ownership for that year will be considerable. (Actual loss will vary between models, but no Breguet holds its value. Few watches actually do.)>B-b-b-but I don't plan on ever selling my watches. This is the watch I want to wear forever.Then value becomes irrelevant. If you like what you like, then it doesn't matter that some shitter brand makes something similar for less money.You should buy the watch that makes you happy regardless of cost. If you settle for something cheaper, you'll just spend the rest of your life regretting not getting the watch you actually wanted.
>>18160597>I get it, I get it. Brand recognition.I don't and I never will.I want the best, not what normies "think" is the best. Same thing with "ambassadors", why would I care what watch Federer wears? He is not a watchmaker or an expert.
>>18160601I just don't want a 300$ Chinese watch to be better finished. That's all I'm asking.
>>18160604Rolex bros..............
>>18160604No fucking way this is legit.
>>18159817Counterpoint: production costs should go down over time, meaning that established watch brands should be cheaper. With the amount of submariners made, they shouldn’t cost 15k. Watches exist in a fake economic system.
>>18160604Rolex isn't about autism crap like case polishing and shit. It is about prestige and status.Cope more poorfag.
>>18160614>Watches exist in a fake economic system.Today you will learn what a Veblen good is.
>>18160613https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQSDHu8sVGk
>>18160613>No fucking way this is legit.It's from a San Martin ad on YT disguised as a "review".
>>18160615It's funny how your comment is more cope than anything else. But keep defending a billion dollar company.
>>18160620yabo
I heard the devil wears Prada.
>>18160620>Stone islandNnnooooooo I thought you were based
>>18160614>Counterpoint: production costs should go down over timeIf the product stays exactly the same, which it hasn't.I know you're just arguing in bad faith, but put a 60s Submariner next to one from today. All the R&D costs necessary to improve the product and the capital outlay to improve the facilities have to be made up somewhere.Plus, in the 1960s, Rolex made very little of the watch in-house. Gay Freres made the bracelet, Aegler made the movements, a dozen companies made dials. Rolex themselves just made cases.
>>18160619At the end of the day I wear rollie and you a san Shartin.You can guess which gets you more pussy.
>>18160601>If you buy a Rolex, decide you don't like it after a year and sell it,Are you really going to be able to sell it quickly for a profit? Watch dealers take a margin and will lowball you, and if you set a higher price and try to sell it on Chrono24 or similar you're going to be waiting for quite a while. Not to mention you have to baby it because noone is going to buy a scratched Rolex.
>>18160625What kind of brain contusion do you need to think this whoring middle aged retard is based?
>>18160613it's not how great san martin is and more of how shit rolex actually is
>>18160623I think you mean 野暮
>>18160604Can't discern shit from these photos.
>>18160617literally nobody caresit's not ROLEX
>>18160627rolex gets you more pussy only in a way that the wearer is a major cunt, other than that, the last time you touched a vagina, it was your mothers
>>18160629>middle agedJapanese live till they're 100 or something, being late 20s is nowhere near middle aged.
>>18160628>Are you really going to be able to sell it quickly for a profit?I said "close to what you paid" not "for profit." Taking even a 10% loss on a watch from new is tremendous value retention for a watch. Compare that to something like a Blancpain, which is a really nice watch and which also immediately loses half its value the second someone wears it.And yes, moving a Rolex on C24 is a process that should take no more than a week unless you're a complete retard (post bad pictures, put no effort into your ad, act sketchy with prospective buyers, etc)
>>18160637isnt he like greek or some shit?
>>18160637He's in his 30s, though.>>18160640Yeah, now he's trying to convince posters here that he's actually Japanese.
>>18160640He's german-japanese
>>18160620so much polyester...
>>18160634>>18160627it really is a pussy magnet. Poorfags won't understand.
>>18160643>He's german-japaneseHe's neither, retard. He's just a run-of-the-mill, unwashed, dishonest, tasteless Greek.
>>18160646Based nipple dial. Yours?
>get watch with metal bracelet>start wearing it>feels sticky and often gets stuck>leaves marks on my wristsis this normal or is it just cause it's so fucking hot at the moment?I'm starting to wonder if I should just switch to a nato strap, if so, any suggestions for cheapish 20mm lug width straps?
>>18160646>that 27Jesus Christ...
>>18160646jesus christ that's a bad replicalooks like the 5$ ones on aliexpresseven the fucking date wheel is horribly aligned
>>18160601>Then value becomes irrelevant. If you like what you like, then it doesn't matter that some shitter brand makes something similar for less money.resale value doesn't matter if you won't sellcost DOES matter
>>18160650Yeah, that's one of the downsides of a bracelet. Even if you loosen it, it will still get sticky.a NATO or MN strap is probably your best bet for the summer.At least it's not a leather strap that gets instantly ruined with sweat.
>>18160656Continuing the rest of his argument>>18160601>You should buy the watch that makes you happy regardless of cost. If you settle for something cheaper, you'll just spend the rest of your life regretting not getting the watch you actually wanted
>>18160658I would much rather get a watch that's 99% of what I want for 300$ than a watch that's significantly more but 100% what I want, but that's just meI know there's people that think differently, I always make compromises for the sake of value. When my headphones were dying, I bought a pair that was 5x the cost and while they were marginally better, they weren't worth the money so I just returned them & bought another 30$ pair instead
>>18160660>I know there's people that think differently, I always make compromises for the sake of valueYeah, I'm the opposite. I buy what I want, regardless of cost. Sometimes what I want is the cheaper option, sometimes it's the costlier option. “The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.”― Benjamin Franklin
I am glad people even here starting to understand that name on a dial doesnt make your watch any better and there is basically no difference between NH35 and some manufacture caliber.300$ watch is all you realistically need.
>>18160597nice Tsuyosa
>>18160663Except it's not poor quality.
>>18160650marks as in indents or "sticky" marks?do you ever wash your hands? wouldn't kill you to wash the wrist too every fortnight or so, metal bracelets are literally waterproofalso metal bracelets are fucking dogshit if not paired with a quick adjust clasp, especially in hot weather, my wrist size fluctuates a lot during the day
>>18160669marks as in the wrist swells in the heat, the bracelet becomes uncomfortably tight and leaves an impression.
>>18160604even Pagani Design shitter has better inner clasp finishing than Rawlex
>>18160668>Is that a rose gold Rolex Submariner?>...San Martin? Spanish? Oh, Chinese...interesting...>Bronze, you say. Was it your third choice after gold and silver?>Nah, I'm just kidding around. It's cool watch. Anyway, yeah, I'll have a number 4 with a garden salad...
>>18160670well that's a normal reaction to a too tight bracelet, if you don't have on the fly adjustment on clasp you either skip metal until it gets cold or you start your day like a boomer with a masturbated to hell folded link bracelet hanging down your hand, waiting for the temperature to rise up and swell your wrist until it fills out the too loose braceletpic related killed other clasps for me, don't even want to think about having to fuck with microadjust holes, having the springbar fly through the office or having my bracelet uncomfortably tightif a 200€ chinkshitter can offer this, the only reason a 5k watch wouldn't have it is literally "because the fucking kikes"
>>18160673Nobody in the world has any interest of what it is on your wrist.
>>18160674If bracelets make can people this angry, I think I'll just switch to nato in the summer.
>>18160613My san sharting holds pretty well being inspected with a loupe.Worst part is their bracelets, they are sharp.
>>18160673>>Bronze, you say. Was it your third choice after gold and silver?
>>18160673>is that a Rolex Submariner 126613LN?>o-oh my god it is? I need you to fuck me now Anon, take me>I couldn't help but overhear, you wear a Rolex Submariner? When you're done with this young lady I need to hire you, we need men like you at my investment bank, $500k starting salary, with a 100% bonusThis is what rolexfags actually believe.
>>18160644polyestercel
>>18160680>banter handling installed: negativeI guess the Americans are awake. (Just 'aving a laff. I love my burgerbros)
>>18160677not only that, but you should also not come back here, if you think there was anything angry about that post, it's only going the get worse
>>18160674In the 60s, they made bracelets where the last couple links were spring-loaded so they would automatically stretch and contract over the course of the day.I think the Pelagos has something similar in its clasp.
>>18160620>Cool watch but I like your jacket more, let me see it>Oh it's 60 % polyester>What can't you afford good clothes>Oh the watch was 5k but you wear polyester?>Get away from me creep
>>18160669>marks as in indents or "sticky" marks?marks as in slightly red indents on the wrist, seems to happen regardless of how loose it is. I can fit two fingers into the bracelet's extra space pretty snugly when just past the wrist bone how it currently is, but it still moves until it's "stuck" in a specific spot at times and leaves a mark there unless I shake it loose again. It can even go over the bump easily forth & backthe watch seemed to fit me fine when I had one extra link out as well but I heard you want some extra space so I added one again.>do you ever wash your hands? wouldn't kill you to wash the wrist too every fortnight or so, metal bracelets are literally waterproofI wash my hands like a dozen times a day. Again, I just got the watch (and it's new, not second hand) so it's not like the watch is old or filthy.>also metal bracelets are fucking dogshit if not paired with a quick adjust clasp, especially in hot weather, my wrist size fluctuates a lot during the dayIt fits me well with both the smaller and the larger quick adjust setting, but both have the indents. I actually prefer the smaller setting but have it on the bigger right now to try & minimized the getting stuck & clinging.What do you carry with you to change it when you're out? a sim ejector tool in your wallet or something?
ROLEXROLEXROLEX
>>18160687tldr get a life nerd kys
>>18160689yes
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>>18160691
>>18160685>In the 60s, they made bracelets where the last couple links were spring-loaded so they would automatically stretch and contract over the course of the day.ancient technology, lost in timeI remember formex having something like this, I think, or was it just the spring loaded case, nonetheless, still automatically conforming to your wrist size bracelets should be more popular, but fuck it, rather put some faggy diamonds on the case or some other dumb shit that wastes money for no good reason
>>18160694>>18160685Forstner/JB Champion still makes them. Someone here bought one for his Omega.I'd be worried about the springs eventually wearing out.
>>18160694Isn't that just another take on the stretchy pinchy bracelets that pull your arm hair out? I saw one the other day on a timex in Walmart, I was shocked they even still make them.
>>18160687indents without being uncomfortably tight? stop worrying about it, that's how human skin works, you get those indents from metal buckles on a nato strap too, just that the watch is half the weight without bracelet, so it's less noticable>what do you carrydon't have to, I have a clasp that doesn't require tools, can tighten the bracelet without even taking off the watch >>18160674but I also have this piece of shit I got from some strap from aliexpress
>>18160695
>>18160691I made both of these kek.
>>18160699Does this look better?
>>18160697that's spiedel strap you're thinking about, I think.Haven't had the displeasure of trying one, but afaik, these days they're better for thatalthough that timex shitter will for sure have dogshit bracelet with folded links that will grate the hair and skin effortlessly
>>18160699Fuck, anon. That's one great looking watch. That caseback makes up for it not having an exhibition caseback. I love how it looks. Not so sure about the hour hand but I can probably tolerate it.
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>>18160703Join the wait list.
>>18160700Casios are nice but I like looking at the spinning stuffs inside the watch and I like winding it up. Clink clink clink clink
>>18160704how did tissot join those three, lol
>>18160625Sutonu airando
>>18160708More like toss it lmao
>>18160711Seconding this.
>>18160716>>18160711>>18160708>Tissot are shitte-ACK
>he lacks the social skills and money to buy a decent watch from an ad>he actually buys them pre-owned
>296 posts>290 are shitpostsGood job /wt/
>>18160731Which are the non-shitposts?
>>18160733
>>18160719Do you have one that wasn't made a million years ago that is not a prx?
>>18160733The ones where he spammed the same pictures he spams every thread, obviously.
>>18160736JWNBAJ
>>18160739That one was released in 2022. Pic related is also new
>>18160741Yes, and? My kids will be half japanese and half greek God though, so it's okay.
>>18160745>My kids will be...How would you know? Your next wife will abandon you just like the last one did.Interesting question, though: how much does the yakuza charge you to marry one of their whores?
>>18160665I need a chronometer otherwise the watch keeps shit time.
>>18160746I imagine each of these women have a "debt" and they work to pay it off, if you pay off that debt I guess they can leave that life
>>18160745Reminder that all the good Greeks were Macedonian or thracian or Albanian
>>18160751>I imagine each of these women have a "debt" and they work to pay it off, if you pay off that debt I guess they can leave that lifeThey get into the life because of a debt, but they never actually get out from under it because the debt accumulates interest faster than anyone can pay it off.
>>18160743>That one was released in 2022.True. It's a fine watch but it's also a copy of a watch they made in the 60s.All the best Tissots are just reissues.
bittaruceru
>>18160745>half japanese and half greekSo they'll be manlets with lots of back hair?
>>18160768greeks are already manlets. Half Japanese will be squinty and bucktoothed, along with being hairy manlets.
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