/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - LONGWING SUMMER EDITIONWhat do I need to care for my boots?>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)>Horsehair brush ($10-15)>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest themHow do I deal with x stain?>mud: allow it to dry then brush off>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're goodno. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.Manufacturer Red Flags>Luxury>Bespoke>Sustainable>Vegan>Unknown leather source>Made in Chyna/Mexico/IndonesiaBoot Red Flags>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)>C*rk/C*lastic>Zippers>Non gusseted tongues>Excessive/unnecessary seams>Combination/mixed material heelsBoot Brands NO>Turdsdays>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters>any Whatsapp makers in the far eastPREVIOUS>>18161299
Why are Solovair boots so comfortable?
so is the "made in usa/canada/eu/etc meme finally over? who the hell is paying 700 dollars for boots made by a wagie in the USA when you can get better for half the price made in China? the boot industry is dying and i don't care
What type of socks do you guys like to wear? Anything from thin cotton socks to thick ass wool socks you can barely squeeze into your boot?
>>18178080i sweat so i wear some meshy breathable fruit of the loom socks i get in a pack of 6 at walmart
>>18178077>order chinese/indo boots>always comes off spec>no refunds lol
>>18178077>even longer wait time than PNW makerslol, lmao even
>>18178084this is obviously a one-off thing
>>18178080I wear wool socks. I have a bunch of lightweight/thin ones, midweight one, and a few thicc ones. Wool is the best material
>>18177993currently waiting on a pair of shoes from enzo bonafe in 363mod last, but if they get here before the window closes i am going to get pic related as my one pair of black boots.>>18178080for dress footwear i like c&j's thin socks and for general wear i have some american trench wool/silk boot socks.
>>18178080>thick ass wool socks you can barely squeeze into your bootwear your woolies when you are sizing your boot and they will fit fine.
>>18178080minus33 heritage line, american trench alpaca and kennedy merino socks, sometimes darn tough
>>18178080Darn Tough is all you need
wow, cool AMA over on reddit, guysa thrift flipper is acting like some kind of authority on leather carelook at the products he namedrops, some of them even cost more than $5, luxuriousi never knew such deep distinctions exist between VSC and renovateur, but i guess you need to sell at least 60 pairs of crusty Allen Edmonds on grailed to appreciate the nuance
>>18178234>strip leather of old waxes and dirt>condition>pigment i now restore leather shoes.
>>18178234why are you such a crybaby and so threatened by this? you sound like a raging pussy bitch>>18178291there's not much more to it
>>18178299>there's not much more to itI guess if they are in OK shape otherwise, (don't need resoling or patching the lining or uppers. Kinda the point though, why does this need an AMA?
>>18178301reddit thrives on attention. so someone makes a thread about something that doesn't matter just to get attentionit's the same as people on 4chan samefagging for (You)s
>>18177993new bootfag here i thought sologayr was the dr. sharten killer?
>>18178310They are both trash
>>18178313nta but what's a good brand alternative for that type of boot?
>>18178299because thift flipping is absolute bottom feeder bahaviour and acting like smearing bick 4 into old shoes makes you knowledgable enough to speak on anything is pure egotism
>>18178313is it really that hard to make a gusseted tongue
>>18178337$$$
>>18178313I happy my OC is still being reposted after all these years even though I don't browse /btg/ outside of winter months.
>>18178352Cute feet
>>18178315>nta but what's a good brand alternative for that type of boot?The entire design of leather stitched on a thin flexible rubber sole is fundamentally flawed so no good version of that design exists QED
>>18178403Ok so i want a black boot that looks good and is made of leather.That's everything i need so please shoot a recommendation.
>>18178080the obvious choice
>>18178421White’s MP, Frank’s Boots (great durable boots), Grant Stones have their Diesel & Brass boots, Crockett and Jones & Cheney if you’re in the UK, I also like Carmina boots
>>18178421The Goral Sharman has been making the shill rounds as the better Doc/Solovair alternative, but no experience with them or the brand. They almost assuredly can't be worse though.
>>18178071The sole is intentionally designed like an orthotic. The purpose of those air filled soles are to make standing as comfortable as possible. The only problem are the QC issues but their customer service is impeccable so long as you're not a giga autist afraid to send an email.
>>18178313Crazy that you guys are still reposting that. The original poster was a slavic monkey too afraid to ask for an exchange.
>>18178483doesn't matter who posted it you fucking soloshitter
so i came close to getting some new parkhursts recently but im waiting to hear what their new last is like. Anyone gotten some recently with the antelope leather (kudu)?
>>18178483he got an exchange that was also fucked and they got less generous so he was looking at paying shipping for another exchange
>>18178461>>18178470Muito obrigado friends. I hope imports won't rape my ass for buying something from the UK to Mexico so let's hope for the best.
I need a new pair of good quality army boots as cool as the Austrian meme boots, what are the options?I am ideally looking for elegant combat boots with almond toes like those 2007 Dior Navigate boots I am obsessed with. Obviously, only brand new, none of that used footwear for me lol. I don't care that mc ride buys used shoes.
>>18178609Stick to cowboys boots Pedro
>>18177993Based Prairie Man here, what yall think about the new shit kickers? gonna get some pythons soon.
>>18178667Right on I should wear my lizards more often, took my sharkskin service boots out today. Was going to wear the lizards to a rodeo yesterday but it was calling for rain, which it didn't, and now I regret not wearing them.
>>18178618Perhaps a Nicks Boot in the HNW last with an unstructured toe?
>>18178722Kill yourself you worthless shill
>>18178425I meant for my feet, not my cock.
>>18178483Stop lying Ahmed you ape and learn to read.
>>18178609if you're mexican you should look at local brands, americans have been outsourcing bootmaking to mexico for ages and Leon has a bootmaking tradition of their own, so you'll definitely find smaller brands that we haven't heard of
>>18178727I don’t own any Nicks tho and don’t plan to. I actually have a pair of White’s coming>>18178618I think you can get the HNW last from other PNW boot makers or a similar last. Just avoid JK
What are your thoughts on "fake boots"? That is to say, boots whose only purpose is aesthetics rather than insulation or practicalityIs there any term to describe that boot category?And it wouldn't necessarily include dress boots even, as those often do have decent insulation and materials
What's your feetcare routine? If my feet feel sweaty but I don't plan for a shower I typically put them on hot water with salt and a bit of vinager and CologneI also apply antifungus cream to my toes and after shave balm to my heels, every second day, either after showering or after putting my feet in hot water, after drying them obviously
>>18178884Body wash with lauric and myristic acid, along with palmitic acid in it. Soaps made from Coconuts contain this exfoliating, anti-fungal substance that is great for your skin. Look into the Taiwan-made Biore Body Wash soaps with the ingredients, then buy it. Borax in water, soaking your feet and cleaning your shoes, clothing, home and body with it mixed in soaps also helps tremendously.
>>18178881>only purpose is aestheticsyou just described the fashion industry
Zero drop, wide toebox leather boots? Want to try out this barefoot meme
>>18178903jimothy green
>>18177993>shilling unironic chinashit in the OP/btg/ cannot be saved at this point
>>18178903Jim GreenVivo Barefoot
>>18178946>>18179040Thanks bros those African Trooper boots don't look too bad if I swap the laces. Any reputable reviews of these
>>18179073the consensus is they're ugly but they just werk
>>18178903There's also NoNs Barefoot A-B
>>18178082Dont know mang, the only time in the past 5 years I've been disappointed its been european stuff. Bought a 1k watch, a PRX that feels cheaper than chink Invicta diverBought Barker dress shoes that wrinkled than chink Doc MartensBought some Portuguese shoes before that and they broke in 5 weeksUnless you're ordering from AliExpress or shein, chink shit is pretty decent
>>18178618the toes on paramemes are way more bulbous in real life. if you want something close to the diors both in quality and appearance get from the first lorenzos
>>18179241This is a marketing post. There are dozens of Chinese brands trying to do grassroots marketing anonymously while hiding the Chinese roots and manufacturing quality on boards and forums in western countries. Specifically those that try to make their brands look western (Grant Stone, Cavour being examples you will see shilled on /fa/ often).They are specifically trying to direct you from Chinese products at Chinese prices (AliExpress) and away from western brands so you get tricked into buying their overpriced shit.
>>18178881Mall trash?
>>18178881>Is there any term to describe that boot category?trash
>>18179298>years later and people still schizopost over grant stoneit blows your burger grease covered, no qc check done bit still coats a mortgage payment boots out the water and youre mad about it
What’s the cheapest brand you won’t shit on? As nice as trickers look, $800 is a bit pricey
>>18177993What combat boots should I buy that look like basic docs/solovairs but are quality?
>>18179400If it's made properly using high quality materials I won't shit on it.Usually that means made in the west with full grain leather from a quality western tannery and proper construction methods which means at least like 450€.You can get it down to a bit less if you cut some corners like Red Wing does in the USA.You can get it down to a lot less if you cut a big corner and have chinks build it but apart from like Grant Stone and Meermin does anyone else do a good job at it? It's not a matter of money in any case, people pay like $700 for Indonesian boots and they are so bad.
>>18178080Garbage hanes crew and micro crew socks in the summer and thick mother fucker Fox River merino Gibralter Frontier socks during the colder seasons. Planning on replacing the hanes with some thinner merino ones.
>>1817808010$ for 20 pair at Walmart. Fuck paying a premium for disposable socks
dumb question but what would you guys recommend for color for someones first boot? what's the most versatile? plan to wear them with jean and chinos of a variety of colors. im /fa/shionably disabled/ .
>>18179635Brown
>>18179635bong tanhae enough red to work with wars colors, dark enough to not be terribly eye catching, brown enough to be brown, light enough to work on light colors okish, inoffensive enough to slip under black jeans
>>18179638>>18179639thanks lads.
>>18179635medium brown
>>18179646thanks.I'm looking at these canada west moorby's as my first.
>>18179661where midsole
>>18179665Not needed
>>18179635Just black. Brown works only in shoes, in boots it looks straight up goofy.
>>18179698>Not needed
what would be a good ankle boot that would complement this fit well? I started working on my own style and really gravitate towards the image below, but don't know what brands/companies to look towards
>>18179775work on better style
>>18179775Get some guidi boots.
>>18179661Any reason why you wouldn't just go with a Red Wing Blacksmith instead? Looks very similar and not much more expensive. Yours doesn't have a leather midsole and i think that is sort of a must have for your first pair of heritage style boots.
>>18179639>brown boots with black jeans...
>buy indonesian shell>it creases
>>18179822Coward.
>>18180066>celastic almost up to the instep>the creasing is shit becasue the shell has no room to flex since the vamp is all stiffener>the length of the celastic isn't even the same left and rightand briselblack was supposed to be one of the "better" indo brands, lmao
>>18180066once you kick the shit out of those they'll look great tho
>>18180102It looks ridiculous and you know it
>>18179820this is cad. red wings are $170 more for me. i will consider the lack of leather rmidsole. grant stone diesel or iron rangers would be my first picks, just a bit expensive for me right now.
>>18180173You have no imagination. Typical phonetard.
>>18180175IRs don't have a midsole either. Because it isn't really necessary.
>>18179822yep. it can work but mist people are stuck on suit color rules and don't use their eyes>zomg black and browndepends on the brown and jeans are effectively neutral
>>18180175I meant the one you posted >>18179661 doesn't have a leather INSOLE lel. It is fine to not have a midsole.
>>18180226>It is fine to not have a midsole.it's really notstop it.
>>18180257depends, i think a midsole is a must on almost every boot (only having a rubber midsole for gumlite or wedges is fine too). But on a lightweight shoe, as long its a single leather or not some extremely hard rubber (like on an iron ranger), its fine.
>>18180261I'd give it a pass for a dress shoe but on these hard rubber compounds you're going to sufferat least the iron ranger has a supper thicc slab of insole but idk if the moorbys are the same
>>18180257Nah its fine. Especially in Red Wings that have like a 6mm leather insole or whatever.>>18180285Moorbys doesn't even have a leather insole, never mind the leather midsole. Which was my point here >>18179820 except I miswrote and said midsole when I meant insole.
>>18180066*taps the sign in OP*
>>18178479>>18178071They are so ridiculously good after you break them in. Why don't they offer medium or light brown? Only dark brown.
A bushcraft youtuber claimed that its good to have some loose space inside your boot under extreme cold so that theres a layer of warm air inside your bootWould the inverse be true? Would it be beneficial to have air-tight boots under very hot conditions to avoid heat build up ?
>>18180342In my experience skinny clothes are bad in summer, you want extra volume to have air circulateI don't know if the same is true in shoes either way, your feet are fairly tightly covered by socks and I can't imagine loose shoes being comfy in any way.
>>18180344well he didnt recommend getting loose shoes, but rather not tightening the laces too much
>>18180342kind of a silly conjecture, that's almost like saying a looser fitting jacket is somehow warmer, because there's more air insidei could say the exact opposite and also sound like a survival expert>having empty space in your boot is bad for temperature retention, because a boot is a pretty confined non-air-tight space, that is subject to a lot of movement, which means it works like a pump with each step pushing out your body heat and drawing in new freezing air you have to heat up again>a tight fitting boot has less air exchange and warm air stays between the insulation layersi don't have a youtube channel though
>>18180194>>18180226i know i am asking a lot but i found this https://www.novafashionshop.com/product/iron-ranger-2/seems like it's too good to be true. would be saving a ton of money, even with the CAD to USD conversion. anyone have any experience with this retailer?
>>18180379this is so obviously a scam
>>18180379lmao you're a retard if you think this is real
The last boots I bought were my Indys. I don't care if they're overpriced. They are comfy as fuck, the last is a great fit for my feet and I plan on just wearing them until they disintegrate I'm not falling for the 700 dollars for boots meme anymore
>>18180386not retarded, just desperate
>>18180397I have both the Moorsby and the Iron Ranger and I would pick the iron ranger
>>18180393pic?
>>18180403when I get home my dude. I am not wearing boots right now because it's 100 degrees
>>18180393Love my IndysWish I'd have bought them in a more versatile color so I can wear them more often
>>18180408snuff suede is like one of the most versatile color i can think of
>>18180405
>>18180408These look based though and go with pretty much anything but black
>>18180410>>18180422Yeah I wear them a lot but I wish it was a bit darker
>>18180379>https://www.luosjiet.com/products/classic-paratroop-boots-luosjiet%C2%AEboots-olive-refresh-waxyIf you want a well made Iron Ranger clone. They have it in other leathers too.
>>18180550>chinese dropshiplol
>>18180393True, I too love my Alden's. Excellent shoes for a white collar worker.
>>18180550that's not a clone that's just an iron ranger and that's not what will be in the box
What boots or shoes would you get if money was not a factor? For me, I'd probably get a bespoke pair by Yohei Fukuda, and probably drop 5k for it
>>18180678basic medium arch plain toe service boot but fully bespoke last
I can't stand Trenton and Heath or their annoying channel. They try way too hard and it comes off as annoyingFor me, it's Steve from Bedo's Leatherworks or Dan the Cobbler
>>18180689>Dan the Cobbleri think im gonna send in my galway to convert from 270 to 360 storm welt. My usual cobbler (who is more like a bespoke shoemaker) said he doesn't do full rewelting so hes my second choice i guess.
>>18180718ask him to make ron kiss them for good luck
>>18180572The reviews I've seen say they're pretty good quality, especially for the price. They're the lower end version of xbxs boots which is a really high end Chinese maker. Got Alden Indy clones too. If it's too unethical to buy clones like that they got some non-clones too that looks nice. Like their teacore service boot or the rural moctoe.
Anyone familiar with Shelvedge? He posts shoe pics on Insta and has a really nice collectionI discovered his youtube channel and saw him for the first time and he's bald with shitty ugly tattoos and he talks like a literal retard. He sounds like he has DownsThanks for reading my blog
>>18180761High end shoes collectors who have a youtube channel are usually not mentally there.The more grounded guys that are fun to talk to IRL don't have any media presence.
>>18180678If money was no object I probably wouldn't need to buy dress shoesOutside of work I only ever wear my black oxfords at weddings and stuff like that. Also loafers if it's a summer event sometimes.Don't think I'd have more than a pair of oxfords and two loafers if I didn't work for money.
Can you wear boots when you’re a senior citizen? Or is it over? What do old people wear?
>>18179636i haven't gotten to wear mine as much as i wanted to yet.
>>18180867They used to wear proper old shoes.Then I noticed that old men started wearing those leather shoes that are basically a leather sneaker looking kind of shoe with a thick rubber sole with grip to cushion the strike impact for their old bones.Now I suppose they just wear throwaway chinksneakers.
>>18180867
>>18180961he was almost 100 years old here