THE BEST CHART edition.Cope if you must.....Guides and Info:>Classic Memehttps://imgur.com/a/6CNO8>Poorfag guide:https://www.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK>Watch essentials 102:https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV>Purchasing used watches:https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2>Purchasing straps:https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE"Suggest a watch for me.">Your budget>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd-time zone>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet>Wrist size or desired watch sizePrevious thread : >>18189624
First for the myth.
>>18190692I think the Seamaster bracelets have not aged well, these have a 2000s Boomer vibe.
Does anyone here suffer from sore wrist after wearing a watch for hours? It happens to me even with the light ones.
>>18190699>>18190704These are both cope.
>>18190699If you have to look for reasons to buy something, don't buy it.If you have to ask someone's validation to buy something, don't buy it.If you are undecided, don't buy it.
>>18190704>not posting the real version
Thoughts on the Submariner 14060M?I like the look of the older, aluminum bezel Subs better than the ceramic bezel/maxi dial/supercase Subs.Are the old Subs too rattly and shitty, though?
Post some "fuck you I like it" watches.
>>18190715Thoughts? The very simple and obvious truth is that if you add a little bit, just a tiny little bit, of colour to the Submariner, it improves 500%. Black and white Subs, so to speak, are just unattractive reddit crap.
>>18190721Fuck you, I just like it.
>>18190714I posted the OG version some anon made. This one contains too much projecting, IMHO.>>18190715No thoughts whatsoever.>>18190713Finally some solid advice around here. Very pleased to see it.>>18190711No, but if I sleep with a watch own it starts to feel uncomfortable on the wrist, which is why I never do it anymore.>>18190706Have to agree with this.What are we wearing today?
>>18190715The case is perfect, the proportions are perfect, but the oyster strap is clearly worse compared to the new one.Now think about a new version of the 14060M with the current movement, the current oyster strap and ceramic bezel. It would be something incredible.
>>18190724nasty fucking shitterkill yourself faggot
>>18190699soiko owner copechartfuck off
Swatch, LVMH and Richemont fags deserve the rope.
>>18190724This one is great. Saw it in real life, in a boutique, and God, God it's beautiful. Much different, I must say, from a lot of other luxury crap they try to sell these days, including Tudor, Omega, Tag, Longines and VC. If you like it just go for it, you can't make a mistake. It's truly beautiful in every detail.
>>18190715The bracelet it still hollow with folded end pieces, so it will feel cheap compared to a modern watch. But it's still tough enough. Those bracelets have lasted decades. The movements are simple and incredibly robust. Rolex still services them. More importantly, they will feel much lighter and more comfortable on the wrist than the modern blocks of steel.You can get them in two-liner (non-COSC) and four-liner (COSC). In practice both are equally accurate. One just comes with a certificate. I like the two-liner look better. It looks more like the classic 5513.
ROLEX
I must say, my visit to the esteemed Rolex AD was a most enlightening experience. The proprietor, a bespectacled man with a keen eye for horology, presented me with a selection of the finest timepieces from the continent. His knowledge of intricate mechanics and exquisite craftsmanship was impressive, to say the least. I must admit, I was particularly taken with the Milgauss, adorned with intricate engravings of the brand name and a delicate balance wheel that seemed to dance in the light. It's a shame I must ponder the indulgence, as it would be a most extravagant purchase, but I daresay it would be a worthwhile addition to my already considerable collection.
>>18190725tag retard lol
>>18190725>What are we wearing today?Rolex Explorer 36mm every day, every week, every year, a man of routine, a boring man, but reliable and loyal
>>18190735*tag*lmfao kys
>>18190735Imagine being that guy
>>18190736>Rolex ExplorerOkay, getting there>36mmFuck off twink.
consider suicide
>>18190741It's literally the opposite, you dumb npc. Shitty watch, great size.
recelso
>>18190741>>18190754It's just a watch
>>18190762Overpriced watch.
basado
Thoughts?
>>18190764I completely agree with you, but I like it
>>18190766I don't have thoughts about shit.
>>18190767Me too.
>>18190766I like it, but I prefer the A700W-1ACF
I think bittercel might actually just be a bitter incel and not the shitposting meme god we thought he was.Fairly disappointed with this revelation if I'm being honest.
>>18190766I like it a lot
>>18190773>A700W-1ACFIt's the same watch with different straps?
>>18190785Yes, it also changes the color of the dial.
>>18190766too feminine
Tissot is a luxury brand. No, I will not elaborate.
>>18190805Yes, a luxury brand of ugly shitters kek
>>18190766have it in gold, very nice
>>18190817You have it in gold color you plebian.
>>18190824no one cares anon
>>18190699Okay, i have a request for the watch, hear me out.Quartz.Sweeping second hand.New.Doesn't suck.
>>18190832>Doesn't suck.So no Bulova i guess.
>>18190798Will people think I'm gay for wearing it?
>>18190839Straight men wear mechanical watches.
>>18190805This is unironically what most people believe.>I paid more $500 for it, this is ultra luxury
>>18190824top kek>>18190817 BTFO
Fill this outYou can pick whichever categories you like
>>18190874no
>>18190874Cartier Tank goldRolex Datejust steelG-Shock Square black
>>18190874Cartier Santos-Dumont, Blancpain Fifty Fathoms 42mm, Zenith Chronomaster Sport.
>>18190874Don't need to.
>>18190884Two ugly shitters and a classic.
>>18190884Holy trinity of meme watches.
>>18190885I also love Moonwatch.
No contemporary watch will age as well as these beauties.All contemporary watches are shitters.
>>18190848>it was priced at $1200 and I got it for only $350, what a steal!
>>18190884Wow the quintessential Blumpfer Drumpfer trio!
>>18190884I like your collection, anon: an everyday watch, a complicated watch and a dress watch. It's a perfect collection.
>>18190884It's a nice set, if not particularly unique, but no one can gainsay them either.And here, of course, you can't win. If you get the "consensus pick" you are lambasted for having no independent thoughts. If you get something else, you're retarded for not buying the "consensus pick".
>>18190884>>18190899>>18190900Fuck off retarded samefag. You and your shitters.
>>18190901Oh, bitter little boy, don't be salty. We're all friends. Post your watches. Join in the fun.
Bros I missed the boat. Grey market prices are going to be insane.
>>18190903I like the blue tones but it feels too busy for me.Nice share regardless anon.
>>18190836what's wrong with bulova?
>>18190903I'm sure the Swatch group is making a lot of money from this aberration, in addition to the ritual humiliation inflicted on Omega. It's a clear proof of how you can devalue your own brand.
>>18190934Quite a lot actually, almost all of them are phenomenally ugly, and those of them which aren't i.e. the lunar pilot is so wrong on so many levels i don't even know where to start.
>>18190936Yes. Swatch Group isn't doing so well but the Moonswatches still sell well, hence why they keep on releasing new models every few months.>Notably, Swatch stated “the Swatch brand bucked the negative trend” thanks to the bestselling MoonSwatch, but this was not (and will not) be sufficient to help the rest of the group given the low value of Swatch watches.https://watchesbysjx.com/2024/07/swatch-group-half-year-2024-results.html
Wristlet here looking for a dive watch. Is it worth getting a genuine Doxa or should I just wait for the inevitable Chinese clone?
Chinese shitter coming through
>>18190944Thats fucking hideous mate.
>>18190724primeros are based dont apologize
>>18190939To survive, they destroy even more Omega. But I'll tell you what: boomers love the Speedmaster, but does the younger generation prefer an Omega or a Tudor? Do they prefer an Omega or a Grand Seiko?
>>18190735TAG makes the best watch, the Monaco.
>>18190934nothing, this guy >>18190938 needs therapy
>>18190722Thats not “added color” you fucking moron, thats old lume. Do you really think it was yellow out of the factory?
>>18190946i like it, it's purple, got he chinese movement in to it, pt-500 or whatever?I'm gonna name it Hans
>>18190961Based retard
>>18190966OK, so you actually do think it was yellow when new. Good to know.
>>18190736Based. 36mm DJ for me until my DD gets here>>18190741>twinkWhy is it always the faggot shit with you guys? Are you Ukranian or something?
>>18190959I know you're not gonna see this but are you fucking blind?
>>18190968Try to read a post twice before getting all histrionic over it.
>>18190944>just get a rep bro save your money no one can tell the difference
>>18190974I accept your concession.
>>18190969Yellow gold, dear anon?
>>18190971precisionist looks nice though
>>18190699anons, pls recommend me a watch:I'm looking for a simple clean dress watch around 300 eur that is maybe also a bit rugged for daily wear, on a black leather strap or a milanese braceletsolar movement, sapphire and/or domed glass would be nicesize around 38mm, no dinner platessomething like a junghans max bill would be good
>>18190981It fucking doesn't.
>>18190980Hell yeah brother. 36mm yellow gold champagne stick dial. Can’t fucking wait, I’m gonna be posting it every day when I get it lol
>>18190983there's an anon here that has this model I believeI like it
>>18190971i like my computron, I like my blue and rose gold marine star, simple as. Lunar pilot is nice, now in red, the white and blue one is nice.Look just because 90% of their models are ugly doesn't mean anything ok
I think this AP perpetual calendar looks just as good as the PP 3940. The Tuscan blue is incredibly beautiful, I think I would choose this over the Patek.
>>18190985>I’m gonna be posting it every day when I get it lolAwesome, another avatarfag for Bittercel to rage against. Can't wait.
>>18190983>>18190989this one looks nice tooI call it the royal fork ;)
>>18190985>yellow gold with champagne stick dial
>>18190989This is just least worst and that's not good enough.
imagine not liking Bulova
>>18190990This is why i mentioned that while the lunar pilot is indeed nice it has many many issues starting with the fact that while it has sweeping second hand you will never see it because those island monkeys made it chronograph hand.
>>18190993Eh, good point, I don’t wanna become another attention seeking avatarfag>>18190995Idk what was so confusing about that anon
>>18190969For many, this is their Grail. I like it with the blue dial, but it is no longer made.
>>18190996your mom likes this watch. if you act good and finish all your chores I might even buy you this one >>18190998
>Bulova are shitte-ACK
>>18191000it’s a ROLEX post it all the time. avatarfagging is exclusive to certain japanese shitter watches that are both disgusting and gay. like there owners.
>>18191005You just posted the reason why I will never own a Bulova, a company that for years dedicated itself to making homages to the Day Date and the Royal Oak.
>>18191009I am sorry but what they are making now is even worse. Its like japanese are actively trying to destroy it from the inside.
>>18190992Another thing I like about this one is the four subdials, instead of three, which makes it even more symmetrical.
>>18191002Blue dial is very nice. I think the green dial looks sharp too. But gold on gold is just pure sex imo.
>>18191012This company was already dead, they should have let it die in peace
>>18190992The only reason anyone would buy this shitter is so they can get a better watch (Royal Oak) down the line
>>18191015Gold on gold is the classic choice
>>18191018It's not bad, but I prefer the 36mm comfy case.
>>18190832The search continuous
>>18191021Based Crockett ditched that shitter for an Ebel in the later seasons.
>>18190992Yes it's very nice. Breguet also made a really nice one. Would still get the Patek though. The 3940 is pretty much unmoggable honestly.
Bros I am completely out of my mind and I might buy a second hand baby g because why the fuck not. Might even fit on my 7" wrist
>>18191009it's a nice watch anon, please dont have a stroke
>>18191032i love heryeah if youre gonna buy a rolex get classic versions, agree.
>>18191039Stop gooning >Quartz.>Sweeping second hand.>New.>Doesn't suck.
>41.5mm case diameter>47mm lug to lug>13mm thickIs this watch just too big for my 6.4 inch wrist?
>>18191034I agree, the AP has a very nice blue dial, but the PP is the most refined design.
I like this one, anyone heard of 'ORGET Chronomètre Serie 'A''
>>18191032>imagine the smell>being enveloped in an overpowering miasma of baby powder and replica perfume as she rolls by
>>18191046It looks like it says "forget," Which is what I will do after scrolling past this picture.
>>18191046"Forget", universal geneve?, redpill me watch autists.
The Bell&Ross BR05 is unmistakably better than the royal oak. Does ap make any other homage pieces?
New micro arrived
>>18190692But you'll never match my charm and wit. It is gratifying to know that you've saved one of my earlier shots; that means you really do care!Hope everyone is having a great day!
What's the first brand that pops into your head for each of these words:>rich>poor>leftist>homosexual>conservative>nazi>white>asian>black>pajeet>jew
>>18191059you weren't enough with the one in your panties loser boy?
>>18191061>>richrolex>>poorcasio>>leftistnomos>>homosexualhomos>>conservativepathetique pirrip>>nazivacheron consonant>>whiterolex>>asiangshock>>blackrolex>>pajeetrado>>jewrolex
>>18191061>richRolex>poorCasioOthers are irrelevant.
>>18191061>>richRichard Mille>>poorSeiko>>leftistNomos>>homosexualNomos>>conservativeJaeger Lecoultre>>naziA Lange & Sohne>>whiteVacheron Constantin>>asianGrand Seiko>>blackHublot>>pajeetHublot>>jewPatek
>>18191061>richRolex>poorSeiko>leftistJLC>homosexualJLC>conservativeRolex>naziRolex>whiteRolex>asianCitizen>blackInvicta>pajeetApple watch>jewMoser
I think my chinese shitter has gained an hour in the three hours I have been wearing it
>>18191071Try running it over a demagnetizer.
>>18190989If you want something more sensibly sized, there's also the Jet star.
>>18191062Silence bittercel
>>18191077tardcel wanna sucky sucky nopeen loser
I want to like Zodiac but they are just so ugly. And super sea wolf sounds unbelieveably retarded. Just stop adding super to your product name it sounds like japanese shit from the 80s.
fucking shitter kys faggot
>>18190832Escapement Time 44GS homage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN5_QVWl2MIWas he right?Was it autism?
>>18191059Been seeing these and just not a fan of the company name/font. Seems quite soulless. Plus it's like an upjumped mallshitter watch, the shop page has a paragraph explaining automatic vs quartz to the dumbshits buying it, and paragraphs on their "history"; but it doesn't even fucking mention lug width. I do like it though. The case looks good but super flat, how does it sit on the wrist?
>18191061>richJacob & Co>poorApple watch>leftistApple watch>homosexualApple watch>conservativeApple watch>naziGshock>whiteApple watch>asianSamsung watch>blackRolex>pajeetRolex>jewRolex
>>18191091I am not gonna even google that chinese shitter but i would assume it has VH31 inside, which is the as far from sweeping hand as humanly possible, i want to punch greeks every time i see that caliber in action.
What is the appeal of divers, seriously?>bulky as fuck so they can withstand a water pressure 99.9% of their wearers will never come close to reaching>ugly fuckhuge meme rotating bezel "timer" feature that 99% of wearers will never use
>>18190711I started taking finasteride and developed neck back and shoulder pain and now even though ive stopped I still feel like the princess and the pea if I have anything on my wrist
>>18191102I like Hamilton but I didn't think it was possible to compete with Nomos for bad lugs.
hello
>>18191118I have seen books with less text.
>>18191107The best watches are field watches and dress watches. But all larpers need their Divers and Chronographs
>>18191107I genuinely like using timing bezels when I have them and I started wearing 36-38mm dive watches to cut down on the bulk. Most smaller dive watches are still water resistant to 200m. Aside from pressure water resistance is also nice because it allows a safeguard for anything that's not supposed to be in your watch from getting in there. I'm a mechanic and sometimes I end up with working with nasty fluids and chemicals and debris and it's nice to know none of that bullshit is going to get in there and I can run the whole watch under a tap to get that shit off and towel it dry.
>>18191094I actually quite like the design. A lot of micros are starting to like the same to me, especially the “vintage divers”. The TV dial with the written numbers made it stand out to me. It wears pretty nice, albeit a bit bigger than I anticipated. Not sure where I found it before ordering but the lug width is 20mm.
>>18191118 Gold hands are awesome
What's THE one brand that you would never touch and why?honestly I would like to hear your reasoning. Some for example refuse to buy anything from Swatch even if they like an omega.
La Gorlock de la francaise lol
>at uni long ago>talk to sri lankan guy about watches; he's clueless>mention the "pinnacle", Patek Philippe>he bursts into treats>realizes I'm not joking>"I thought you were making fun of indian brands that mash together something euro with an indian name in order to seem sophisitcated / Pahtek sounds 100% indian">sandeep bouvier, ranjeet nicoles, rajesh ranier etcEver since then whenever I hear "Patek" I can't help but think that it does sound pajeetish.Turns out the guy's dad was loaded and collected watches including "Pahtek" lol
>>18191154I think i've seen this post before.
>>18191154It's actually really sad how India is so shit and destined to remain shit as long as everyone with the most remote chance of changing it immediately immigrates somewhere else the second they have the means to leave..
>>18191162The same can be said for a lot of countries.
>>18191107An analog watch you don't have to give a shit about, plus the bezel's good for seeing if I can consistently waste 20 minutes of my company's time on the toilet.>t. posting from said bathroom rn, 13 minutes and counting
>>18191061>>richVacheron Constantin>>poor cringeGarmin and the like / Fake Rolex (usually with metal bracelet) / Shitty microbrand>>poor basedCasio>>leftistsmartwatch>>homosexualNomos>>conservativeRolex>>naziA. Lange and his son>>whiteCartier>>asianBulgari>>blackGold ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX>>pajeetRandom Soviet watches>>jewGold Patek Philippe (not worn)
>>18191175wtf that's me.btw where does Moser fit in that graph? Asking for a friend.
>>18191177>btw where does Moser fit in that graph? Asking for a friend.Probably 4.5 to 4.75 Not quite as gay as a Hublot wearer, but still pretty fruity. The difference is that the Moser wearer is a little more discreet, probably has a beard to keep up appearances, if someone starts playing the Village People, they'll offer a light chuckle but won't start dancing.
>>18191177what's a moser?
>>18191180A timepiece that sits comfortably in the Ultra Luxury category/tier.
>>18191182that makes literal shitters for Russian peopleI see
>>18191180>what's a moser?Moser is to Journe what Omega is to Rolex.
nigger shitter
>>18191188I would never wear anything with "Moser" or "Journe" written on it.
>>18191175Where do Orient, Tudor, Longines, Oris, TAG Heuer, Zenith, Panerai and IWC fit on this graph?
>>18191193>OrientX>Tudor4>Longines2>Oris5>TAG Heuer1>Zenith3>Panerai0>IWC6
>>18191195>Panerai>0Fag spotted.
>>18191198Elaborate
>>18191200Panerai is quintessential fag watch. If homos is a watch for the open faggots panerai is for closeted fags who act tough in public and in the night go to the nearest gloryhole and suck cocks until their lips go numb.
>>18191200"Fag" is short for "Faggot" which, in American English, is an euphemism for a homosexual man or boy.
>>18191202Bullshit
>>18190944As I've understood, one of the big appeals of chinese divers like san martin for example is the vast variety of bezel colors and combos.But couldn't you just buy an Invicta, Seiko or Orient and repaint the bezel at home with a hobby kit? That way you get any color you want and a watch that works way better.
>>18191151Shinola. Really meh watches and a lying ass history, but somehow jewelers that sell rolex still carry them.
>>18191204That pic is not making your case for you.
>>18191204See you in the nearest truck stop tonight then. Well, i won't see you and you will just see my cock.
>>18191208>>18191210Keep seething for whatever brainworm you got
kys faggot pos
I'm fucking your mother
>Make a modernized A158>Still has a painted plastic case
howd you niggas like the opening ceremony?
Is the square grandma watch trend finally over?
Me? Wear a Panerai? Sorry friend, I'm not a homosexual, I think I'll pass.
>>18191246>Is the square grandma watch trend finally over?Nope. You'll have to keep impotently seething for another eight months at least.
does anyone have a budget option for this watch
>>18191061>richPatek>poorCasio>leftistSeagull. (Nomos would be "Liberal")>homosexualCartier>conservativeTAG Heuer>NaziAny Flieger replica>WhiteTAG Heuer>AsianSeiko>BlackNEW WATCH ALERT - HUBLOTS>PajeetRado (I actually love the look of the Diastar, so I can't blame them)>JewRolex
>>18190721>Post some "fuck you I like it" watches.The Omega Constellation (and I am not Asian).
Calculator on the wrist today lads
>>18191267Is there a budget option for this watch?
Jesus fuck, weeks over, god I hate being sober..
>>18191271>god I hate being sober..Doctor's orders?
>>18191267Pen and paper to do the calculations yourself.
>>18191273How do you know?
>>18191283Just guessing. Why else would an alcoholic be sober on a Friday night?
>>18191092Why does he omit the massive demand for Rolex?
>>18191271Hamiltons are so fucking ugly
>>18191288>Hamiltons are so fucking ugly
>>18191271Any other watches that have that Day Date + 9 o'clock date window?
>>18191287He addressed it in the videoIt's forced demand
>>18190982SOMEBODY RECOMMEND ME A FUCKING WATCH PLEASE
>>18191301Blue Presage
Does anyone else find themselves getting bored with watches?I have a big-ass collection that I used to love, but lately, all I wear is my old Day Date. I like my other watches, but I can't be bothered with winding and setting them and all that bullshit.What do you think? Should I sell them all off?
>>18191313having only one watch and not spending your free time watching youtube "reviewers" (advertisers) sounds based
>>18191287He doesn't omit it. He's making the case that Rolex and their ADs do the same thing that jewelry companies do with diamonds, witholding them to give the illusion that they are rare and valuable when they are actually not very uncommon at all.
>>18191304which one?
>>18191318The red one
>>18191288Hamilton makes some great watches but that isn't one of them.
>>18191320You can’t post a great one without being afraid of being called out.
>>18191330
>>18191331That's a shit one, though. Try again.
>>18191320>>18191330The first gen Khaki Field Mechanical (before they went to the plastic movement) was great.The only flaw was the use of colored faux-patina lume.
>>18191236>Goytooth zogbot 5g vaccine tracking watchNo thanks
>>18191257Chinks make tons of shitty knockoffs of those, look on AliExpress
celebrity worship is fucking dumb
>>18191352Fuck I need both for each hand, how is it pay?
>>18190788>>18190785>>18190766Yeah my thoughts as well
>buy an mr-g square>suddenly have no need for any other watches except a dress watch for formal occasions>never go to formal occasions anywayuhh guess im set
>>18190832Credor eichi ii
>>18191362same but with my daydaye
>>18190874Honey gold Lange &Sohne Langematik Perpetual WatchPlatinum credor eichi IISeiko prospex solar runners digital solar
>>18191211F A GAG
>>18191363>>18191365>Platinum credor eichi IIOh, you're the last guy left who thinks it's a "cheap Dufour".
>average teddy's fan
>>18191352That's not celebrity worship that's advertising mascot worship
>>18190884Based. For me it's the moonwatch, a tt datejust, and explorer. Don't have the explorer yet but have the other 2
>>18190911These are fucking rad. I want a Mr krabs one
>>18191354>how is it payGood morning SIR
>>18191107They're great for all watersports, especially if you scuba or snorkel. I'll never go as deep as any of my Seamasters can achieve, but that's okay; for all intents and purposes, they are 'waterproof' watches (assuming I get them serviced regularly with gaskets replaced), and I always use them when I'm at the beach. I use the bezel timers on both of them a lot, especially when cooking. Finally, I like the bulkiness; it's the only watch where this is acceptable to my eyes. >>18191118Hello! How's the Tudor running?>>18191151I have more than one brand.1) All Chinese Brands - their quality control and repair is beyond awful, so even though I have a Seagull 1963, I'll never ever buy anything else. Life is too short.2) Bremont. I think they're company is shit, their watches overpriced, and their design line cheap and ugly. 3) Tudor - they're Rolex cope. The only watch that is great is their Advisor, and no one knows about it (which is why it's great). Everything else is unrefined compared with Rolex.4) Oris. 'nuff said.5) Seiko. Not Grand Seiko, just Seiko. Nothing appeals to me, and their movement performance is abysmal.6) All Russian brands. Same reasoning as Chinese watches.7) Frederique Constant. Same reasons as what ArchieLuxury would say.>>18191271Great to see you HamiltonAnon. Being sober allows you to see things you might have missed when drunk, so there is a bright side. Hope you're well!>>18191313No, but for a time I thought I was done buying them. Then it appears I was wrong, and the list was not quite complete. It's closer to being complete now...perhaps only one more to go, maybe. I find I never really end up wanting to only wear 1 watch...I do reach for just about all of them at some point in the week, so I haven't experienced what you've felt. You could sell them if you think someone else could enjoy them a lot...that's what I did with the 2531.80. If you don't have to sell, there's no reason to.
>>18191313think about it first. cull your collection when you've decided.
>>18191313yah dude i have like 500 houses i just live in one wtf it's not even a castle it's just a tiny mansion what a shit life gonna drink some negronis and see where it goes
Kofe time.
>>18191437Nice focus kof gay lord
>>18191437Why are you up so early?
So is this how it works:>grand seiko>costs about half a basic rolex>no one cares>rolex>costs about two grand seikos>everyone thinks you're rich>casio f-91w>can buy about 300 of them for the price of a grand seiko>still impresses more people
>>18191459Can you not think about grand seiko for one day?
Bros...I want to buy another watch.
>>18191331Why do you guys like huge fat ass bezels on all your watches
>>18191313This is why buying guitars is more fun
>>18191465but you can't wear a different guitar at work and on a date and on the bus on the way to work etc
>>18191402ALL Chinese brands? What's wrong with san martins QC for example? Is every single youtuber on the internet lying about them being good? What about the macro shots that compare them with watches that cost 30 to 40 times as much but they not only rival the finishing but sometime even surpass them?Btw nice pic.
>>18190832Addiesvive AD2030. Provides a 316L Steelcase (ok maybe just 304, who knows?). Solid steel links, solid end links, a milled clasp, and a sweeping Seiko VH31 movement for around 50 bucks. The dial also looks pretty unique, the only letdown is the prints.
>>18191476>VH31Stop recomending this shit its not fucking sweeping second hand you can see less jitter during earthquakes.
>>18191469Yes, all Chinese brands. Regarding San Martin specifically: they prioritize copying popular brands and models, and I don't waste money on design fakes. I think the YouTubers are correct in their assessment of the general comparisons; I don't doubt that the outer aesthetics can be comparable for simple designs, and given enough time, the Chinese are known to create close copies. It's very easy to copy a Panerai, for instance...I think even the Indians can do that. Rolex cases and bracelets are simple, their dials are simple, etc. But why would I buy a copy instead of spending money on the genuine article that is being copied? It's a waste of money for me. If I wanted a Seamaster, Submariner, or even a PP back when they were within reason, I would have bought one. I hate the new subs (the size of the case and proportions are terrible), I don't have any co-axials yet in Omega (as I never plan to), and the PP with elephant ears is ugly in my eyes. The point is though that I'm not at the stage where fakes are required. If I want something, I buy it. If I can't afford it now, I save up a bit. It's not rocket science. Maybe when I was in high school I might have been tempted...but those were different times, and the fake watches back then were so atrociously bad that everyone knew it was fake and that was a feature, not a flaw. Add in the fact that Chinese movements are terrible, their repair and servicing terrible, and their overall designs terrible....well, it's all terrible. It's a waste of money.One thing though in particular that colours my perspective: I know that I'll never be happy with something that isn't genuine, therefore I know I'll never spend money on something like that. I'm not saying other people shouldn't, I'm just saying what I do.What do you think of San Martin? >thanks btw about the picture...it was taken a long time ago, and I still think it's my best pic of a watch.
>>18191428>yah dude i have like 500 houses i just live in one wtf it's not even a castle it's just a tiny mansion what a shit life gonna drink some negronis and see where it goesl;o u pour
>>18191484Sec I will reply to you soon.
>>18191479Of course, it's still jittery compared to an automatic but rather fluid for quartz.
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>>18191464If they could get that watch down to 37mm or 38mm it would be almost perfect.
>>18191484>>18191489I understanding your reasoning, and it is not wrong. I agree actually. They are riding on the success of well established and iconic designs, basically doing none of the work that is required to have success in this business. They are stealing the work and effort of others and they are in it 110% only for the money, even more so than the others I'd argue.That's a con to me overall, but there is a But.A friend of mine is a huge san martin fan and for the good reasons. These reasons being that, while yes, their entire success comes from copying said iconic designs, they at least put in a massive effort to give you the best Replica on the market for that price point and far beyond that [price point]. And he argues that a 250 dollar watch shouldn't be able to compete in quality with deep 4 digit watches. Of course, why that is; it's a big conversation that boils down to chinese labour costing nothing by comparison etc. But that's not what I want to focus on right now. He also argues that a start up company "needs" to copy the established success and only after it makes money, they can go on and make some original designs (which I disagree). San martin has started doing that [original designs], with decent success I might add. Personally, I would never buy a san martin because it does not and will never make me feel anything. Like you correctly said, I already have the original, why get a copy chinese pelagos instead? The fashion world gets a pass when it comes to that though, because branding is everything. If a new chinese car company came out with 1 to 1 SAME design as, say, Audi, but they only changed the logo and put in a much inferior engine, then they would get laughed out of the industry.
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>>18191313collector's fatigue syndrome?
>>18191495It's just sad the quality doesn't translate into their "original" designs. Any time they're not blatantly copying another brand the watch is aggressively bad. It's like a prank watch.
>San Martin
>>18191457Sun woke me up.What does everyone have in the pocket today?
>>18191362You spent how much on a shitty digital watch lol tragic
>>18191513I don't like pocket watches
>>18191516why?
>>18191495I agree with you, but also I understand how your friend feels; he is, in a sense, getting the best look for the best price, and for a temporary watch, that's a very strong argument to be made. The difference to me is that 'performance' of the object matters too. Cheap leather jackets are shit compared to leather jackets that use great quality leather; you can feel it, and if you have a trained eye, you can see it too. I find the same with watches. I want the performance, I want the movement capability, I want the reliability and the knowledge that the movement will outlast me, and most importantly, I want the movement to be good enough to be pulled into my daily specs. Sellita movements are not as good as ETA movements in terms of longevity, mainly due to the their design flaws, and that's a shame (it's one of the reasons I don't buy Laco at the moment...once they switched over, they were lost). But again, if it's a temporary watch, then it's not bad. There is a part of me that feels that these companies take advantage of people who want the look of great watches but who cannot purchase them just yet. So, they are sold place-holders at a price that seems reasonable but in the end is always a loss of money. The proposition is to save instead of spending on those place holders until one can get the genuine article. The challenge is being patient and waiting until the time is right. That's hard for people, and counterintuitive for most, so in the end, cheap brands win. Then again, in the luxury world, it's perhaps somewhat opposite. Rolex wins by having people choose the following en masse: instead of spending 14k on a used modern Sub in decent condition with full box and papers, a 'loyal' customer will spend about 30k on shit watches and jewellery to be offered the privilege of buying a new Sub at retail. If you do the math, it doesn't make sense at all, but people still do it anyway. >>18191513Maybe today, we'll see.
>>18191519I usually find their dials quite ugly, with tacky typography, almost always having that horrible late 19th century look. But there are some that look great, like this one.
>>18191523>There is a part of me that feels that these companies take advantage of people who want the look of great watches but who cannot purchase themWell yes, that's the fashion world for you. And now that you mentioned movements, another good thing about SM is that they regulate their movements out of the factory, most are at +-3 seconds per day actually. Now how long this accuracy will last? I don't know. But that's another small touch that not many companies do at that price point, I know from first hand experience that seiko doesn't do that even on their 900 dollar watches.
>>18191524I understand what you mean, and I am glad it wasn't a non-answer. Some dials btw make more sense on a pocket watch.
>>18191491left watch?
>>18191523>Scale for both beat error and rate adjustmentBased Zenith
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I don't care what people say. Those ads were peak comfy and based.
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>>18191575Decent
>>18191572I love how brands tried to tell little stories about their watches back then. Now it's just "hey look, George Clooney is wearing an Omega, just buy it faggot consoomer"
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I'm surprised that a guy with Mike Noveau's style has a relatively similar taste in watches to me, when I see his collection I would expect someone with the look of Matt Hranek.
>>18191595I like his content but he sounds like a total sperg who enjoy the smell of his own farts
>>18190699Love my european bros
>>18191605I love you too man, congrats on the new C8 ZR1 Corvette. Love me some high revving Flat Plane V8.
So what's the catch?
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Is there a watch youtuber that does actual reviews instead of just focusing 99% on the positives of a watch? I am talking factual critique and what could have been done better. A youtuber that also talks open and honest about the industry and some of their fake and rotten practices. Everyone seems to have this fake artificial hype around watches that make you feel that each new watch that comes out is something that you must own. I get it, these guys sell watches, but after a while you have to notice how they're all the same.
>>18191615A day.
>>18191619Okay so you regulate it and it goes down to +-6, what now?I am not saying that an unregulated movement ootf isn't a shitty thing, but there are ways around it.
>>18191622>you regulate itWhy would i do it? Or rather why the fuck seiko isn't doing it?
>>18191624>Why would i do it?Well, because seiko isn't doing it.>Or rather why the fuck seiko isn't doing it?cause they are cheap fucks.
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>>18191627So the company says they don't give a fuck about their own watches, why would you buy them?
>>18191630I asked the question of what the catch is for a sub 1000 dollar watch from a known brand that has a porcelain dial. You said, correctly, that the movements accuracy is bad, to which I replied by agreeing but I also provided you with a relatively easy solution. I am not downplaying the problem, I am just saying that there is a fix to the, seemingly, only catch that this watch has (for what it is). And this solution is free of charge.Now, should you go out of your way to do something that the company had to do by themselves? No, and I don't support that either. I made the mistake of buying 6r35's, ended up selling them. But if the only problem with the watch can be solved for free, then it is not a big deal.
>>18191572>>18191574>>18191575>>18191576>>18191577>>18191592>>18191593Based and I totally agree. How come that Euro posting hours are always the best posting hours?
>>18191613What the anons say is true.+- 2 minutes per day.It's not a meme, it's the truth
>>18191635I know, I had 6r35's before. Which is the same movement but with a date window. After regulating it, it was at an almost acceptable 1 minute per week.
>>18191617You won't like: ArchieLuxury.
New Thread>>18191640>>18191640sorry for making it a bit too early.
>>18191637Don't be afraid anon.
>>18191633It's a seiko.As in a For Fucks Sake-oh.
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>>18191319which model dipshit
