GS won edition:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9GuVgN7mbIGuides and Info:>Classic Memehttps://imgur.com/a/6CNO8>Poorfag guide:https://www.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK>Watch essentials 102:https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV>Purchasing used watches:https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2>Purchasing straps:https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE"Suggest a watch for me.">Your budget>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd-time zone>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet>Wrist size or desired watch sizePrevious thread: >>18231311
>GSZascratchu Bros, How we holding up?
>>18234109Living with the pain.
ok anons, last question from me before I pull the trigger - left or right??I assume left is the more classic field watch colour and scratches would show up less on it?
>>18234110We are going to make it.>>18234113I just really like the details on the left one, the coloured arrows. But the right one hast better readability. You can't go wrong either way. I'd go with left.
>>18234119Made it for now.
LONG JEANSOLD MAN ARSE PIG GAYPOOLEXPOODORSHARTYAYOSMEGA
>>18234121Hold up, Aoi-San is the hased Long Jeans Enjoyer?I don't know what else to say man.I'm not very well versed when it comes to LJ, can you tell me more about this watch? Why'd you buy it, the specs, price etc.
>>18234132Based*>>18234129What's Moser's nickname? Poser? Kosher? Heh
>>18234135>What's Moser's nickname?Dogshit.
Let me guess, you “need” more
>>18234135what a strange juxtaposition - why the rubber strap? how does this look with leather? bracelet?
10 posts in and at least half of them are from one avatarfag.I'll check back in when he's banned again.
>>18234087Finally a 61GS case. Now we just have to wait for another 10 years for the integrated 61GS case.
>>18234150Good. >>18234147There's anothet anon that has both the official bracelet and a leather strap on it.It looks like a different watch with the bracelet, much more "sporty" and robust.
Kofe time.
Kofe time combo-time.
>>18234156Baste
>>18234135Pooser
Such a disgusting brand
Anyway I'm off now. 'twas fun.Never give up on your dreams lads. They're closer than you might think.
>>18234169This single picture speaks such volumes of the possibilities in this hobby.You don't need to be the richest man in the country, or have the most extensive horological knowledge to put together a perfect collection.Take this anon for example, he got into watches few months ago and managed to acquire the perfect collection with his average Joe salary. All of his watches are in the luxury to ultra luxury category and he has all sides covered. Haute Horlogerie dress watch? Check! High accuracy quartz with best finishing on the planet? Check!. Scratch proof casual/sports watch? Also check.I for one commend this anon for his mastery of horology.
>>18234109>>18234110Is zaratsu just >buraku polishing on external surfaces?
>>18234129>can't smash the vacheEither vacheron is unmaymayable or it's so forgettable that nobody even thinks about it enough to come up with one (i can't).At least vc, richemont slave they are, haven't sold out to nogs and playing the "hellow fellow kids" travesty that patek is currently doing along side the groidrap pandering.Long may its stay this way.
>>18234185Oh yes I wanted to add vacheron but got distracted POOPERON POOPSTANTINE (or if you prefer WASH YOUR OWN VAGINE)PATEL PISSLIP
>>18234190WASH YOU OWN POOPSTAIN TEEN
>>18234146too phat for my SEA hands. but yes i want a gShock with both analog and digi display.>>18234087Gseiko forded 1 mirrion times!
>>18234190>PATELdesu 'patek' sounds kinda pajeetish on its own
>mom found the watch drawer
>>18234109after dropping enough money on watches i realized it was a wasteful thing to do. wearing them will turn them into shitters and they'll never be as new. casio 168 is all u need after all.
>>18234213>wearing them will turn them into shitterswear doesn't make a shitter a shitterbeing a shitty waste of money made in china crap bought due to cope and low impulse control makes it a shitternote a $15 casio isn't a shitter since it's just a toolsome watches even look better when worna well worn rolex looks better than some shiney shit because it looks like the owner has actually worn it daily, not fetishized it and kept it in a locked drawer along with his cock and balls it's been and is still being worn and is likely their only watch not one of many from their box full of shitters they never wearbuy ONE nice watch, wear it and only it when you wear a watchjust like your father, maybe not (you) because your father was likely a some faggot zoomer like youprobably your grandfather, great grandfather eventhey only had one watch, they only needed onebuy the best watch you can afford and wear it any more than on and it's bugman accumulator territory and if you don't have a lot of money you risk the drawer-o-shitters problemthe end
>>18234201That's because Patak is an actual pajeet name
>>18234113lefty that textured dial is fire
can someone here with "taste" provide me a list of /wt/ certified watch models
>>18234113I'd go for the left, the light case color seems more flexible.
>>18234225Here you go pal >>18234129
>>18234113depends on whether you want the wear to be more visiblethe black will scratch one day and there's nothing you can do to stop ityou either stop caring or avoid black coated watches
>>18234113also the black one will look smaller on your wrist and be less eyecatching, not that anyone cares what's on your wrist anywaythings to keep in mind
Hands down the most SOVL diver I've ever seen.
>>18234113Save your money and buy a Hamilton Khaki.
>>18234190>WASH YOUR OWN VAGINE
f shitters lmao
Always a pleasure to post in a thread made by the sex worker patron -anon.Keep it friendly, friends!
>>18234248>CuckyKEK
>>18234204The glass on Casio G-Shocks is mineral glass, but somehow they manage to make it almost as robust and clear as a sapphire crystal. I've had a DW-5600 for a year now and it doesn't have a single scratch. It's incredible. Possibly the highest quality mineral glass in the world.
>>18234132I'm did say Soon™, didn't I? I'm not that big a fan of the diver aesthetic, but this one caught my eye and I didn't have a high-beat in my collection so, there it is. The Legend Diver is a looker too, but this one felt more distinct. It shares a resemblance to my Seiko 5, the one that started it all. It's a "There and back again" sort of deal. And the lack of a date window (which funnily enough was present on the original) is always a plus.
>>18234259Based.
>is better than a nu-datejust>nobody knows it because it's not a poolex
>>18234181I don't know, but even with scratches on it, the way that case plays with light, especially sunlight, is quite something.
>>18234275Grand Shitko? Gay Sexxo? Grand Coipo?
>>18234277Grand Soiko.
>>18234279You bet, brother.
>>18234203D- Did she drop the "price" question?
Owning a very cool eBay shitter in your otherwise normie luxury collection is the best feeling everMost of you have still to get there
Why do people here (its probably just 1 sperg) hate on GS so much? Is it a matter of them looking far too similar to a $150seiko 5 out of the box?
>>18234274Breitling is for rich Jewish kids
>>18234277BLAND BASEDCOPE
>>18234316S O Y Y Y Y Y Y
What's the most obscure shitter in your collection, /wt/? I think for me, it might be this Tissot digital watch from the 1970's, which is literally just a rebranded Casiotron from the same period. I also have a hand-wound counterfeit Omega from the 1960's that's branded as an "ultra-thin" model with fake gold hallmarks on the back of it which is quite weird as well.
>>18234274Looks like a 90s Tag Aquaracer and a Michael Kors had an abortion together, do Breitling chuds really?
>”Most iconic seiko”>it’s a fake rolex
>>18234247Looks great in pictures but in real life a diver that small just looks silly. I wanted to like it. I really did. The truth is all divers are trash.
>>18234312>Breitling is for rich Jewish kidsI only knew two people who wore Breitling and they were both jewish kids born into wealth. Is there a reason for this?
>>18234169I like the blue watch but would like it more with a different band. What’s the brand?
>>18234266The mineral glass on G-Shocks is great but you can't compare it to anything else because the bezel is designed to protect the glass.
>>18234373The buckle on that watch band is probably worth more than you make in a month
>>18234388Cost != Worth
>>18234368lack of taste + money + perceived status symbol
>>18234119>>18234224>>18234226>>18234243>>18234245Alright, left it is >>18234248Doesn't have the features I want for the price I want
>>18234384I know, but it's not just the bezel. It's also the quality of that particular mineral glass.
>>18234396But they werent wearing rolexes
Is it me or does the bracelet on these feels cheap and flimsy as fuck?
>>18234400What "features" could you possibly need? It's a watch; it tells time; that's literally all you need.
>>18234169>>18234178Pathetic samefag. Touch grass faggot
>>18234413You should report him for appearing like an automated spambot. Posting pasta once in a while is fun, but clogging up every thread with samefagging nonsense from saved posts is against the rules. (I never care about muh rules desu, I just want retarded subhuman cunts out of the threads).
>>18234358LITERALLY a rebranded Casio? Mine's a no-name meme Temu-watch
>>18234373It's a Moser Pioneer 3200-1217.Bracelet costs around 2200-2300€
Does anyone know where I could get a very basic Type A-11 style watch for under about $350 USD that isn't a total piece of shit? I'll be honest and admit that I don't really know what I'm looking for (I've only owned cheap Casios before). Seems like all of the results I get are either crappy $30 chink clones or $700 "high-end" (I'm poor) reproductions.Just having a hard time finding a middle ground, I guess. Should I give up?
>>18234429By type A-11 do you mean fieldwatch?
>>18234431Pretty much, yeah. Though I would like one that looks similar to those issued in WW2. Doesn't have to be an exact match, just something close enough.
>>18234410>>18234434I lack knowledge about that price range so I sadly can't help you. I will give you a reply and some exposition I guess. Apologies sir. I hope you'll find what you're looking for.
Let me guess, you're wearing a suit and you think you "need"... anything else?
>>18234203Didn't you tell her you were just keeping them for a friend?
>>18234445Yeah, I need a good looking watch to go with my suit. That guggi isn't what I need.
>>18234445>wearing a suitUmmm prom was 15 years ago
>>18234450>Gucci isn't ALL i needThe absolute state.
>>18234429Only one I know of is from some micro called praesidus, where they have recreations of that a11 in both 38mm and vintage correct 32mm.They were at least 500 though iirc. Only remember because of a happy fat watch boomer shilled it once. Maybe they've got cheaper versions too/.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sT7vQ28mKc
>>18234457I don't want any guccis. gucci, lv, RM, LSV, any of the super popular luxury brands are retarded melanoid bait to overspend on ugly garbage.
>>18234213>wearing them will turn them into shitters and they'll never be as newsome of them will be better
>>18234466Reminder that Karl went and had his aftermarket painted black back whenever that was.
>>18234463
>>18234410Solar and water resistance are the main two that Hamilton doesn't have
>>18234485AR coating too
>>18234473>spotted the brandwhore who only wears shit for their label. You don't even own any casio's, do you?
>>18234493Why are you always so mad? What a sad life kek
Anon, do you enjoy elephant watches?
>>18234463RETARD ALERT SQUWAAAAAK RETARD ALERT SQUWAAAAK Ladies and gentlemen, there is a retard in the thread. Repeat: Ladies and gentlemen, there is a retard in the thread. Proceed with caution. RETARD ALERT SQUWAAAAAK RETARD ALERT SQUWAAAAK
>>18234445>wearing a suitHearty kek
I'm gonna sell all my watches and just buy the Monaco. Fuck it.
>>18234511Do you also lease a mercedes wrapped in a flat black vinyl wrap to show off your outfits?
>>18234514Buy a rare Gucci, you silly.
>>18234409Throw it on a strap.
>>18234270>Diver on a leather strap Bruh
>>18234516I have 4 Gucci's already, I'm the Based Gucci Chad
>>18234515no I own a Range Rover Sport Supercharged. The British won the war, not the Germans.
>>18234485>Solar"I'm too lazy to wind up the watch.">Water resistance"I need to dive into 100 meters of water with my watch."
>>18234545Don't plan on diving with it anytime soon. I suppose that puts me in line with about 90% of all dive watch owners out there. If I do eventually find a bucket to throw myself into, i'll throw it on a nato.
>>18234558What's your wrist size?
>>182345607 and a half
>>18234558Ultra chrons used to be not ugly.
>Omega has always been shi- ACK!
>>18234218"patina" is the biggest cope I have ever witnessed.patinafags can gargle my left, right, and center nut.Imagine paying big money for oxidized gold additives.
>>18234552Are you also the based Tiger Gucci owner?
>>18234563I mean, they haven't used this particular configuration of the movement in anything else yet. And they showed enough restraint to not throw a date complication in just because they could (/it was there in the original). Could be interesting reissue territory. They don't have anything close this good looking in their current catalogue and people are starting to warm up to the aesthetics of the oldies.
>>18234087fuck watches I want a new frank green
>>18234577Cringe, ugly, stupid. The epitome of present humanity.
free GO catalog
>>18234584
>>18234584Shit brand, nobody cares. Throw this in the trash.
>>18234588ol bitter hating ass nigga, you the roper anon from /btg/
>>18234218>wear>rolexgood joke mr salesman ur not getting service money from me
>>18234605Ah yes, the Citizen perpetual calendar that doesn't display the day and the month.
>>18234584>>18234587>Gaghutte
Any good counter clockwise watches?
>>18234620Yes.
>>18234473It’s true. They havent been quality in decades
>>18234629Sorry bro, but your watch isn't a perpetual calendar.
>>182340870/10>>182341090/10>>182341100/10>>182341130/10>>182341190/10>>182341210/10>>182341320/10>>182341350/10>>182341460/10>>182341520/10>>182341550/10>>182341560/10>>182341690/10>>1823421810/10>>182342260/10>>182342430/10>>182342470/10>>182342660/10>>182342700/10>>182342742/10>>182342750/10>>182343580/10>>182343650/10>>182344090/10>>182344291/10>>182344450/10>>182344662/10 (would have been a 6 for the regular version)>>182345070/10>>182345320/10>>182345580/10>>182345632/10>>182345657/10>>182346050/10>>182346240/10>>182346290/10
>>18234638Hating everything is the most reddit personality trait you can force on yourself.
>>18234638rate the whores now>>18234577
>>18234640>post his Seiko>expect to get a 10/10 from me, the best poster itt>get a 0/10>seetheSad.
>>18234644No.
>>18234638What's your daily watch?
>>18234648why not.
I just had sex with my wife. Feels good bros.
>>18234662Check these message here:>>18233292>>18233295>>18233296>>18233297>>18233298>>18233300>>18233301>>18233303Just don't bother, it's that indian no lifer.
>>18234638hey rating bro, can you provide a list list of 9-10/10 watches, thanks bro
>>18234605>>18234629How much do these go for used?
>>18234676Shut the fuck up you stupid bugman. One day you will die.
>>18234675Honestly pretty much anything from Rolex, Omega, IWC, JLC, Breitling, Heuer or Longines made in the 1960s is a 9 or 10/10.Some brands have made nice stuff up until the 1990s, like Rolex or JLC. 1990s is amazing and still affordable. There are also some 1990s Blancpain Villeret that I like.Modern day: Rolex still makes some cool watches but a lot of crap too. Most brands are shit but there's always something to like. I like the IWC Pilot 36mm for example.Budget watches: Kuoe is unironically a 9/10. Baltic is alright.
>>18234692>1990s is amazing and still affordableMeant 1990s Vacheron.
>>18234692Why do you dislike a lot of Swiss microbrands? You yourself said Baltic is alright, why anything else is always a 0/10 for you?
>>18234692Cheers ratingbro, I will definitely check out more vintage stuff.
>>18234700NTA but assembling other people's parts and charging an extra $400 because your brand sounds a little different is some DeBeers level of fraud.
>>18234703Do you realize that back in the 1960s everyone was assembling other people's parts, especially cases, dials and individual components for the movements?
>>18234700Baltic makes good looking watches. Only thing that matters.
>>18234676You can't afford it
>>18234571The point of that pic wasn't really patina, but the fact that the polished one was polished by an utter retard that removed all the crisp edges and still had the gall to try and net nearly 70k for a shitty mall watch kiosk tier "cut yor keys and topy your shoes too guvna" job.
>>18234712Derivative like any Soiko, Orient and the like. If there was 'Grand Soiko' printed on the dial you would give it a 0/10.
>>18234708Correct, because the gigantic machines to make the very tiny watch parts are super specialized, and the economies in switzerland are such that only those who own the machines already are profitable because they don't need $50mil in parts machines so they just resell to each other. My point is when a brand new microbrand pops up and charges more for the same watch the prior microbrand does, whats the point?
I just realized I no longer have any ETA based watches in my collection. Feels weird
>>18234718If grand soiko was on that dial there would be riots in the streets from angry grand soiko fans because the case looks like a $200 hamilton and you can tell the seconds hand is just some half ass stamped piece of shit, they probably didn't even finish the bottom surfaces of those hands let alone zaratsu
>>18234674It could be a bot, although that could be giving him too much credit.
>>18234729
>>18234692>Kuoe is unironically a 9/10Hard sell me on Kuoe, they look good but I don't like what I've heard about the Miyota movements they use.
>>18234716>Citizen >Can't affordPick one.
>>18234692>>18234807>Japanese brand>makes copies of Swiss watchesBuy Swiss you fucking tards.
Talk me out of buying bronze gold seamaster 300.Also a question: any legit info on the patina?
>>18234853>Also a question: any legit info on the patina?I was curious about this because I wanted to see how horrendous it becomes. No info. It's either too new a product or people with shitty ones haven't posted pics.Best you could do is search for patina on 9ct gold, which is all this "bronze gold" of theirs is and keep in mind that the other additives in it are supposedly keeping the copper within it from patinating too soon so whatever vintage 9ct might look like would probably take a long time on this omega.I would say: don't.If you're going to buy that model get the steel, in black because the blue looks plasticky. If you want a gold watch buy a gold watch. If you want bronze for some reason because I dunno maybe you're retarded, buy bronze that ends up looking like shit in short order. Horrible fad I can't believe that shit lasted so many years.This is a weird half way to nowhere.
>>18234556>"I need to dive into 100 meters of water with my watch."That's not how the WR ratings work you fucking retard100m means you can go for a swim with it, maybe do some snorkelling
>>18234858>bronze is retardedYeah i agree. >buy gold watchI like that it’s not as flashy as yellow gold nor as faggy as pink gold. And the price point is low enough to consider. Aesthetically speaking it also tickles my pickle>patinaSupposedly it gets pinkish-red, but as I said. Dunno if those omega fags aren’t lying. Seen couple of those on chrono and those still look very good unlike tudors or orises…https://youtu.be/xaIPCv4UPOA?si=Vx3A8WP4IQl5gWNwAlsoPic rel - need a bit more time to get this
>>18234274Looks like some shit you’d see at Macy’s
Why is everyone in these threads so fucking poor? Do any of you even own a Rolex?
>>18234884Yes
Rate my new vostok
>>18234890Post it faggot
>>18234901Looks gay as hell ngl
>>18234908>t.hohol
>>18234906Want to buy this one nigger? Or you’re just another faggot for lady sizes?
>>18234911>Chrono24
>$5K carPoor>$5k HouseShed>$5K SavingsPoor>$5K watchUP VOTE!!!!!!
>>18234913It’s for sale
>>18234863100m is 330 feet, you dumb nigger. That is deep enough for scuba diving.
>>18234884Rolex are cheap as fuck nowadays. I saw a kid working at mcdonalds wearing one the other day.
>>18234901Quite ugly and gay lookin.
seiko bros explain these shit indices
>>18234969You have brain rot. Thats the full explanation.
>>18234901the whole thing could be smaller if the hour hand didn't have the triangle how's the braceletis the case with sharp edges?
>>18234971can white guys wear gold watches?
new g-shock rumors"The DW-5000C is a 1:1 replica of the 1983 Original"
i bought my first rolex this week. which model do you think i bought?
>>18234977Yeah, but its only ever being ironic and thus the watch has to be a cheap shitter, or you're so deluded (like fedora wearing deluded) into thinking a gold watch looks good now. The exception is if you're a geriatric boomer and have always worn watches even when they were popular.
>>18234853I'm a dealer that's worked for rolex+trinity brands.Tudor tried to convince all their dealers that the 925 silver black bay wouldn't tarnish either they turn black in the cases.Skip everything below trinity+Lange. They are all made in the dark.Get real they are gypping the fuck out of you with a 9k case on a dive watch on a (unremarkable) leather strap for $14,000 are you kidding me?For that price you could get a nice saxonia or calatrava second hand. Get something with real craftsmanship and value for your money. Don't be an impulsive consumer.
>>18234978Why is that DW-5600RL-1 so expensive? Theres no fucking way g-shocks have to be that expensive for a resin cased circuit board and an LCD screen thats been made since the 1980s.
>>18234982did you find a price? I don't think it's out yet. if it's expensive it might have a steel case and screwdown caseback under the resin
>>18234884
>>18234983i think I was referring to this, but whats the exact differences between the two?
>>18234884Cannot relate
a 5 star review on the dial
Used datejust boyz!!!!When u got $2400 and a hookup with the plug at Mort's Diamond and Bagel shop.
>>18234972The bracelet is way nicer than i expected, feels the same as my dads tag heuer. The case edges are rounded, not sharp
>>18235004Fake.
>>18235038keep coping
>>18234989I've worn mine almost daily for 2 years nowstill cheaper than condoms
>>18234853Those numerals remind me of a Panerai.
This website has Rolex for like $300https://konfox.com/product-category/rolex/
>>18235040Lol looks like someone forgot to delete the geolocation metadata from the image. I'm gonna find where you live and steal your poolex
>>18234936It was fake you fucking retard.
>>18234978>"The DW-5000C is a 1:1 replica of the 1983 Original"Every G-Shock Square is a 1:1 replica of the original models.
my Seagull is arriving tonight bros. i'm pretty excited.
>>18235061Excited for what? A chink shitter?
>>18234989the differences are subtle and for the true gshock autist who wants a faithful replication of the original 80s model. the reason the gwm5610 is $100 is because it has solar battery recharging and radio wave reception (automatically sets the time every night if you live in a civilized country)
>>18235063yes. it's the first watch i've ever bought that isn't a dress watch or monocolor sunburst dial
>>18234417We can't do it, besides citizenfag they are the jannies here
>>18235063>A chink shitter?you mean >>18234248
>>18234901>not a 090 or 710 case
>>18234976BASED
>>18234692swissy slut trash lmao
>>18234977I think gold watches only look good on Mediterranean white guys (Italians, Greeks) and Slavs, or white guys with hairy arms. If you're some blonde pasty hairless Dutch dude trying to wear a gold watch it would look kinda weird desu. Also I think gold watches look better if you have even more gold on you, like a necklace or a ring on the same hand as the watch. *Just* a gold watch being your only accessory is a weird look regardless of race.
>>18235095Agreed that it depends on skin tone, but even amongst white-whites there's the whole warm and cool tone thing. Of course if you're a pastyass Celt that goes lobster pink in the sun rather than than that germanic orangy tan then gold will suit a little less.Quick test for whites is the undertone vein test:The more blue/purple your underside wrist veins look the more the white metals suit you, the more green your veins look the more warmer metals look better.That all being said you can be as pale and "cool" as a ghost with "Irish pigment" and a smaller, gold dress watch on a leather band will look fine. Where you get into trouble is with massive gold cases and huge gold bracelets.Watches, wristwatches and fine gold wristwatches were made by and for pale white men; as long as you're not festooning yourself with massive diamond (fag) studded gold bracelets like some nigger funded by a jewcord label then you'll be fine.Not that anyone gives a shit what watch you're wearing anyway or whether or not the undertones of your complexion suit the metal color.
What kind of watch is best for bund straps? Most divers look horrible on them.
>>18235131Field watches or vintage skindivers aka small, thin divers with minimal bezels that are the same color as the case.Not dress, not fliegers. Nothing thick or large in diameter. Say, 38mm max and below.
>>18235131They were intended for field and pilot watches.
>>18235095Are Greeks WHITE?
>>18235146Yes
>>18235146Only a small percentage. Most of them are basically turkroaches. Very nasty and vicious people. They're basically the pajeets of Europe.
my fellow white men, I wish you all a nice thursday.
>>18235157Throw yourself under a car, faggot!
>>18234921Shut the fuck up you stupid bastard
God these threads and this board in general have become horrible
>>18235157Have a great day too sex worker patron anon. Stay safe on the ring.
>>18235146ancient greeks yesgreeks today are mostly turkish
They pretty much doubled the price of the JLC Reverso in the last few years.What the absolute fuck
How much is a re-used (recycled from trash) genta design worth to you?
>>18235175Based
>>18234971a rep of a 50 ysd watch? how poor are you?
>>18235153>>18235187Turks are often whiter than whites. Trust my experience, I had a Turk grill who was ghost pale and sexy as fuck. All her relatives were pale white as well. Travel to Costantinople and you'll find out this is a very common phenotype, especially among women.
>>18235188Absolute clowns. They are nothing but complete clowns.
>>18235188Watchfags have been saying for years JLC was bang for the buck high-end horology. Muh watchmaker's watchmaker, the best movements of the industry, the best alternative to Rolex/Cartier, whatever. Richemont just listened to them and raised their price accordingly. Also Lenny Kravitz, Nicholas Hoult and Anya Taylor Joy are now brand ambassadors for some reason.
>>18235220>high-end horologyMaybe like 5% of their catalog has some hand finishing on the movement.
>>18235215I've been to Athens and Istambul. The population is literally the same. A few pale skin people (descendants of hellenistic people) and a large majority of disgusting crooked-nose anatolid/armenid roaches. Just look at Roachadello's phenotype. He's the byproduct of centuries of invasions and rapes from Middle East. Also fun fact: Istambul is cleaner than Athens.
>>18235188>>18235220>>18235224A gold, singleface, tribute small seconds reverso coats as much as a Vacheron patrimony traditionelle.Would you a more complicated JLC, say their MUTT perpcal or MUTTT Moon, some chrono vs something more basic from Lange, VC etc., if the prices were close? If the jlc is gold then that's another matter.The Lange, VC etc., being way better finished?Finer craft, vs "complexity"? I just don't see how any gold cased JLC is worth it if you can get Trinity + Lange and Breguet levels at those prices.I really, really liked the look of the gold tribute smallsec with the black dip though.List is 25k, dealer in Germany selling new, will stamp warranty upon purchase, for 17.5k.
>>18235230>Istambul is cleaner than AthensOf course it is, were you surprised? Greeks are poorer than Turks. Turks actually live a very decent life.>and a large majority of disgusting crooked-nose anatolid/armenid roachesIsn't it subjective though? Maybe they enjoy each other.
>>18235237I really like the look of this watch. Black dials with gold are really nice. If the VC 82172 traditionelle came with a black dial that isn't a fucking 50-piece limited edition for the nip market that's impossibru to find then that would be an easier choice. Then someone posted that pic of the dogshit tribute chrono movement that looked like it came out of a chinese factory circa 2008.
>>18235230Who's "Roachadello"?
>>18235250The lonely subhuman who posts this bannable shit 24/7 >>18235157
>>18235252He is called WhoreAnon, bittercel.
>>18235253I don't really care about /fa/ggot drama
>>18235253Roachadello suits him perfectly.
>>18235237>>18235248The VC traditionnelle also has a gold case, but it has a movement hand-finished to the Geneva seal standard.The gold reverso doesn't have any hand finishing on the movement, but it costs just as much.The standard steel reverso also costs like 40% more than a steel Rolex Explorer 1.JLC went insane.
>>18235250>Who's "Roachadello"?It's Whoretadello. Replace the "Whore" with "Roach" because he's a Greek-Turk admixture.
>>18235153>They're basically the pajeets of Europe.Gypsies are the jeets of Europe, no contest.
>>18235262Yeah, I know. It's just that I really like the black dial and those >ZOMG CALATRAVA COPE!!1 REEEE REEEEEE REEEEEEindicies.Then VC went and released this week that black dialed fiftysix. The basic bitch one with the valflu non-geneva seal movement. They have a green dial traditionelle that was made because chinks are obsessed with jade for some reason, but give me the black dial ffs. They had this hideous brown/grey a few years ago that I tried on. Deceptive online pics that made it look black. Went to the boutique and it was hideous.
>>18235262>JLC went insane.Probably Richemont went insane. They dictate how their sub-brands should position themselves in the market.That said, though, if the market didn't accept the price, it wouldn't. Used prices on Chrono24 have kept pace, and the gray market for JLC (8-10%) is not as soft as something like Omega, for example, which is able to chop 20% off the MSRP for just about any model in the catalog.Maybe JLC was actually under-priced.
>>18235267Careful, anon. Bittercel is quick with the report button. He doesn't appreciate racist terms that insult his Indian heritage.
>>18235269>the gray market for JLC (8-10%) is not as softThere are hardly any of the current "standard" reversos (steel monoface with Fagliano strap) on chrono24.Search for "reverso" and set the filter to "new/unworn". Like 5 out of the first 60 results are the standard steel monoface.Yes the ones that are on there have relatively high pricing, but who knows how long they've been sitting there.
Calatrava is not only one of the worst architects of all time (how do we say here? inventorio di fecalis) but also one of the ugliest watches ever designed. Imagine gluing 12 pathetic spikes of toothpicks onto a grey dial and calling that "a masterpiece" and charging thousands of bucks for such a boring gay wristwatch. Pajeet Filthippe fags really need to develop a shred of brain before walking the streets of the world in 2024.
thoughts on buckle details? I really think they're and underrated aspect in watchmaking.
>>18235283Is this buckle prone to over heat in use or why does it have the notches?
>>18235283You should throw your watch in the ocean with it still around your wrist.
>>18235283Yeah this just feels cheap by comparison.
>>18235284Ripping off the Chesterton heat-sink caseback?>>18235283>>18235287Fucking samefag.
>>18235278What do you mean?
>>18235285Woah, sad and bitter!
>>18235284The case got vents as well. It keeps the weight down and helps reduce the ticking noise of the escapement by re-directing the sound/frequency waves.
>>18235269>>18235278welp, we'll see soon enough what the market thinkshttps://archive.is/E4QZ2tl;dr>Swiss luxury watchmakers, including Girard-Perregaux and Ulysse Nardin, are seeking government financial aid to COPE with a downturn in demand, particularly from China. Sowind Group, the parent company of these brands, has placed around 15% of its workforce on furlough as it navigates declines in wholesale watch exports following a period of growth post-pandemic. The Swiss government provides up to 80% of workers' salaries under its short-time work program to prevent job losses in manufacturing. While major brands like Rolex remain resilient, the slowdown is affecting the broader industry, leading to cautious forecasts for recovery in the coming years, especially as consumers tighten their spending amid economic uncertainty.It's apparently really hit all those unknown (to watch buyers) firms that produce all the shit that the swiss watch industry uses, like those that makes screws, movement parts, cases, bracelets and shit.If you're fully integrated or near fully integrated you're going to be ok. If you're just part of the greater gear train that is the swiss watch, then you're looking more fucked than not.Knowing this, would (you) blow big bucks on a GP or, lol, a UN? Good that they're now free of that holding company though and are basically independent since the quartz crisis hit.
>>18235289>Fucking samefagHow else can I show the difference between my two watches?
>>18235283There's that feature of Lange buckles that only TIM MOSSO From TheWatchBox.com (TM) mentions in his reviews that intrigues me. No other brand seems to have to have that useful feature.
>>18235296>Knowing this, would (you) blow big bucks on a GP or, lol, a UN?If they made something I like? Yes.I don't know how many times /wt/ has to go around in circles with this: watches are not investments.
>>18235297No one fucking asked you, though. No one cares about your watches. You've posted them a thousand times in every thread you haven't bene banned from. We've seen them.Considering your levels of buyer's remorse, you barely care about your watches.
>>18235292I mean that judging the basic steel reverso gray market prices is difficult, since the sample size is so tiny.There are only a handful of basic reversos for sale on the gray market, and we don't really know if they're actually selling at all.I don't know dick about other JLC models or even reverso models though.
>>18235298>"Despite being 49mm in diameter amd 62mm lug to lug, and Only 23mm thick, I can recommend this watch for wrists as small as 11cm in circumference, essentially making it a unisex option"
>>18235302Isn't that guy in his 30s? Who acts like that? What must his wife and kids think?
>>18235300It's not so much the issue of >muh resale value hurr imma sell everything i've ever bought because i'm so bad with money im going to have to sell my kidneys for sure some daybut rather the worry that a brand that has to go on life support now might become shittier to cut costs in the future. GP's done this before and had constant firesales in the late 90's that diluted the brand which is why they're held in such low regard today, which is a shame. If GP+UN can't stand on their own two feet now and are re-bought by some other group or some other shitty vc holding company, then wouldn't the prospect of that put a sour taste in (your) mouth?
>>18235283How does it feel knowing that everyone except another fake avatard thinks you're a worthless piece of shit?
I love you all bitterbros. Never change.Anyway I'm off now. See you tomorrow. Full day at work.
>>18235304There's the standard gray market sites, though, like Joma and PrestigeTime. They tell you their prices. That's another way to get a sense of what the market will bear.For example, Prestige usually sells Rolex above MSRP, Cartier about 3% lower than MSRP, JLC, about 10% lower than MSRP, Omega about 20% lower, and Breitling about 25% lower.
>>18235306>What must his wife and kids think?He doesn't have any because he fuck cheap whores.
>>18235311Remember that you have been banned for much less, scumbag.
>>18235308I don't care about that, though, outside of the concern that GP/UN/Whoever will be able to service my watch and/or keep spare parts on hand.There's a particularly joyless thing that /tv/ does with movies, where they don't talk about the movie itself, but just obsess about its box office returns as a way to say "See, I was right to hate this movie! It's losing money."Talking about sales and shit is the /wt/ equivalent of that.
>>18235302>Considering your levels of buyer's remorse, you barely care about your watches.I think this is the funniest thing he does. He's gone past caring about the watch itself and just chases the high of the next purchase. He barely lasts a few weeks before he decides his last purchase was shit.Literally, a consooomer.
>>18235298Which feature? Can you go into detail, it sounds interesting
>>18235312>Joma and PrestigeTimeAgain, barely any of the current standard steel monofaces.Each has like two.
>>18235320>https://youtu.be/zO9Bn1yF53c?t=74(1:14 in)
>>18235321I'm not sure where you're going with this. Any JLC will have a small sample size. They're not a massive company but they have a lot of SKUs. That's a quirk of the company.
>>18235322Thanks m8
>>18235324It's the basic steel monoface, it should be the most common reverso by far. And there are hardly any for sale on the gray market.That means either people are holding onto them for dear life, or the actual sales numbers are abysmal.
This is the coolest watch released in years, possibly decades. If I had the money I would get this over any PP/VC/Journe/whatever.
>>18235327Feels like you have to presume an awful lot to be able to draw any conclusions. Maybe it's not, in fact, produced in the largest quantities, despite its simplicity.
>>18235337Well the most basic steel version of any non-dress watch tends to sell the best.Rolex sub, Omega Speedmaster, Royal Oak, ...On top of that, the original Reverso from the 30s was a basic steel monoface, so it's the heritage choice.It's not a stretch at all to assume that the most basic steel monoface version of the Reverso would be the most popular.
>>18235335>Going beyond ‘Swiss made’ labelWhile the ‘Swiss made’ label only requires 60% of components to be made in Switzerland, we manufacture all our components in the cantons of Neuchâtel and Jura, supporting the local economy.Decently based. Reminds me of moser. And they even have in-house movements. I guess it makes sense or else they ain't 100% swiss made.How much is that watch?
>>18235344>It's not a stretch at all to assume that the most basic steel monoface version of the Reverso would be the most popular.True but, again, the company might have reasons for not producing it in huge quantities. Maybe they don't make enough money on each unit sold? Maybe they just want to gin up a little artificial scarcity and upsell customers on a more expensive model? Maybe they don't want to produce so many that they run out of everything else and they end up like AP, tied inextricably to a single model.Neither of us has access to the information needed to draw any conclusions. It's all just guessing.
>>18235346>Reminds me of moser.Don't compare Berneron to that dogshit Moser of yours, retard.They're 50k CHF.
>>1823534660,000 USD and all sold out until 2028.
I'm wearing a 34mm watch right now
>>18235215pale =/= white
As a sidenote, I think this thread is one of the better ones we had in a while.It's a perfect mixture of avatarfagging, bitterness, knowledge drop, some watch discussion, new watches from well established avatarfags, an Anon deciding to get the white dialed watch and some bad opinions left and right and an overall minimal amount of copypastas.It feels very peaceful and complete.If OD pops up now and replies to 2 anons to contact se off the thread, then it would be a solid 9/10.Thank you.
>>18235215>Travel to CostantinopleI don't have a time machine.
>>18235349Oufff.>>18235351Based. Vintage, sir?
>>1823535520anons*To close off*
>>18235267anon means romani people btw
>>18235347I'm just saying it's hard to judge if gray market prices are indeed keeping up with the retail price, just because there are so few models actually for sale.
>>18235346>Reminds me of moser.Didn't you have a full work day? Go back, you fucking cunt.
>>182348536/10>>182348654/10>>182349010/10>>182349115/10 (42mm for the Explorer II is too big)>>182349170/10>>182349690/10>>182349710/10>>182349760/10>>182349770/10>>182349780/10>>1823498510/10>>182349890/10>>1823499110/10>>182350033/10>>182350048/10>>182350061/10>>182350930/10>>182351570/10>>182351887/10>>182352010/10>>182352200/10>>182352486/10>>182352950/10>>182352965/10>>182352970/10>>182353110/10>>1823533510/10>>182353557/10
>>18235364You forgot to say kys to nasty subhumans
Bros the buttons on the OG square are a pain in the rear, do the people who like this watch never have to time anything? Do they have very long fingernails? Do they all change the recessed button for a normal one? Are they all blinded by nostalgia?Many such questions arise. I can say it is very unwieldy to track our poop breaks. And likely will likely be unwieldy to rest periods between sets too.Our quest for the perfect poop timepiece continues. More news to follow.
>>18235297nice watch but why does your buddy on the left shave his hands? it's weird
>>18235366it's a perfect watch, go eat some poop and die you fucking retard
>>18235188bidenflation
>>18235171I accept your concession. Keep seething, tranny.
>>18235366I think the buttons are fine except for the recessed top left button. That one is a pain. The GWM5610U fixed that though.
wtf.. they need to get the guy who designed the casioak to make more watches instead of whatever the fuck this is
>>18235378For the 100th times, Casio makes plastic toys for children. It's insane how so many grown men still don't get this.
NEW THREAD WHEN???MAKE IT A ULYSSE NARDIN EDITION
calm downwe're not even at the bump limit
NEW THREAD>>18235384>>18235384>>18235384>>18235384>>18235384
>>18235372>>18235380I remain unconvinced.>>18235376Interesting anon. I find myself using my fingernails a lot. Might do the top left button mod sometime.>>18235378The crazy part is that those fugly models seem to sell quite well. There was a list somewhere showing top sellers and I think the GA-100 was among best sellers which just blew my mind.
>>18235375le epic trole kys
>>18235283that's actually a pretty nice detail