/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - FEATURE NOT BUG EDITIONWhat do I need to care for my boots?>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)>Horsehair brush ($10-15)>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest themHow do I deal with x stain?>mud: allow it to dry then brush off>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're goodno. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.Manufacturer Red Flags>Luxury>Bespoke>Sustainable>Vegan>Unknown leather source>Made in Chyna/Mexico/IndonesiaBoot Red Flags>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)>C*rk/C*lastic>Zippers>Non gusseted tongues>Excessive/unnecessary seams>Combination/mixed material heelsBoot Brands NO>Turdsdays>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters>any Whatsapp makers in the far eastPREVIOUS>>18286867
What do I do if me dog ate me kiltie and I have no substitute?
>>18292708Go full Chinese and use dog kilties
ID on boots?
Do you guys keep the boxes from your boots? Do you store them in the boxes?
>>18292721I do keep my boxes but might recycle since I don’t have any use for them. I usually place dust bags on top of the boots to cover them from dust
>>18292668Do Redditors believe that bullshit?
>>18292740Noone who has actually seen a boot would beleive that. However, redditors have a penchant for psyoping themselves, so...
>>18292756That hole completely negates the purpose of a gusseted tongue, so I can't believe Turdsday actually wrote that and think people are stupid enough to believe that.
>>18292721I have a tower of them between a wall and a bookshelfthey're nice boxesI keep all the bags, laces etc in a grant stone box under my desk
I need some cheap semi-casual black leather shoes. Would these work?
>>18292715This brings up another question I had floating in my mind: if you pelt and leather your hound when it passes, are there any reputable boot manufacturers that would make you a pair of boots with it?
>>18292668>consistent with what other high quality brands doWhat a blatant lie. I've owned gusseted boots from 10 different bootmakers, and none of them had a fucking hole in it. Maybe because it defeats the whole point of a gusset tongue.
>>18292850I think whites will make boots with any leather you send them. Just don't tell them it's your dog
>>18292740apparently so
>>18292850No Cruella, I don’t think they will.
>>18292668>C*rk/C*lasticWhat the fuck does this mean?
>>18292978you don't want cork underfoot, you want a full leather bedyou don't want celastic toe caps, you want unstructured
>>18292720shitters
>>18292978>corkyou don't want a full leather bed or your boots will squeak like every wh*tes boot does.>celastic you don't want an unstructured toe because it will collapse, and look abhorrently bad. Just avoid celastic in the heel counter.
>>18293005my schizo theory is that people order unstructured thinking they're getting a leather toe puff and are too embarrassed to admit they misunderstoodthe flaccid toes never look good
>>18292668>hole is in the pattern intentionally How is Turdsday so fucking retarded?
>>18293008leather toe puffs are overrated anyway, i got pairs with both and there is no difference. As long i get leather in the heel, im happy.
>>18292668What is the difference between Baker's exclusive White's Bounty and the White's Cruiser? Baker's says the Bounty Hunter is the Smokejumper pattern on the 55 last but I thought that's what Cruisers are?
>>18292981Oh, so cork and celastic, and whoever wrote the copypasta for the general is retarded. Got it.
When is Jim Green going to make sneakers and oxfords? I need 100% of all my footwear to be Jim Green. (the jim green mandate)
>>18293033There is a high likelihood that the person that made your Jim Green footwear during the day spends the evenings mutilating and raping Boer farmers.Maybe think about that the next time you buy Jim Green.
>>18293030>said the retard who didn't know what it is
>>18293035so two pairs then?
>>18293033Hopefully they make those after finishing picrel, I'm so fucking excited for these russell moc clones it's unreal
>>18293050Release those in their veg tan leathers and I'll insta order them
>>18293021nothing really, it's the same pattern on the same lastcruiser is a stock model for whites, only comes in one configuration in some specific leathers, if it's not currently backordered you can buy it without a lead timebounty hunter is just a non-official nickname for a custom build-to-order boot on the 55 last, if you order it it doesn't even say bounty hunter on the boxyou can make it look however you want as long as it's on the 55 last, then it's still considered a bounty hunterbakers sometimes runs some boots in exclusive leathers and their site has all the custom options listed out, but realistically you can order the same thing from whites directly
>>18293050Jim Green WON
>>18293035jim green is owned by boers
>>18293073I see, thanks for the QRD Anon.
ok look at the creasing on this right shoehow can i prevent thisthese are only a week old
>>18293114shoe trees can reduce but there is no preventing creases unless you buy good quality shell
>>18293117>Shell cordovan has a unique non-creasing characteristic.ah, cool. with $1200 for a pair of suit shoes i might need a better job first though
>>18293133higher quality leathers do tend to crease better
>>18293137another thing is those expensive shoes had half sizes on their webpages, whereas my local stores just keep whole sizes. i am sure that will help too
>>18292283franks actually does single row stitchdown
>>18293036>found the retard who wrote the copypastaI’m not a bootfag, I’m here to learn. Censoring “celastic” so that only bootfags understand it is retarded.
>>18293159if you were truly here to learn you wouldn't have preconceived notions
>>18293164>why?shit leatherwhat do people expect for $200?
>>18292742that's definitely a british woman because she's ugly as shit
>>18293114bad clicking, can't help it. Also it looks like theres a shit ton of wax cracking?
When doing custom orders from Jim Green do they get shipped from South Africa? Is it worth the shipping + customs + vat + tip just to ask for a leather midsole?
>>18293183no, it's never worth paying to get what you want, just keep settling forever
What boots are these
>>18293203dogshits
>>18293203I can't believe that somehow years ago I unironically thought these were cool. I really do not understand it.
>>18293203too obscure
>>18293203Whites semidress
>>18293203they kinda look similar to Solovairs
>>18293203grant stone brass boot
So can you recommend any boots this general considers good that look exactly like docs 1460 or solovairs? I specifically like the shiny black finish, the bulkiness and the subtle yet edgy look they have to them. Meanwhile all of the boots this thread endorses look like some hipster shit. I guess I might just get a pair of 'vairs if I don't find anything of supposedly higher quality.
>>18293259retard man solos are the hipster boots now
>>18292956Time and time again proven to be the very best >>18292967I would be flattered to be used as honored ornamentals by loved ones who outlive me. It's better than being wasted in a furnace like simple garbage, or tacky like a nasty taxidermy piece. Ideally and most respectfully it would be best to do an old Egyptian mummification ritual though.
>>18293259>that look exactly likeloaded question
>>18293259do you look like robert smith? if not then get doc fartens out of your head
>>18293316I look like Robert Smith (and also Sasuke Uchiha)>what boots do you suggest?
doc martens
All these years later and the Whites MP is still the best boot of all time
>>18293342https://www.grantstoneshoes.com/products/brass-boot-black-chromexcelI'd look through grant stone's catalogue these are the closest things I could find
>>18293342White's MP>>18293366
>>18292668>DainiteWhat's wrong with it?
>>18293397wet tile is death
Thinking about copping the Gokey Sauvage Oxford.
>>18293397hydorplanes in urban environments snow/ice pack into the rings, slips
honestly all hard rubber soles are dicey in urban environments when wet
>>18293198What kind of retarded passive aggressive non answer is this? Part of JG's appeal is the price, winding up paying 300-400 for a boot that retails for 200 is definitely not worth it, at that price point you start having a lot of options that are better built and better looking.
>>18293259NPS (the owner of Solovair and Gripfast) has its own heritage line, they have a somewhat Docs/Solovair-looking model whit proper sole, goodyear welt and full leather lining:https://eu.nps-solovair.com/collections/nps-heritage-collection/products/474-bk-pcIt looks more like the astronaut boots, but it seems fine.
>>18293150Thanks for the heads up anon, I’m going to politely ask Frank’s>>18293366I prefer the lug outsole but yeah MP is a great boot>>18293397https://youtu.be/ZzGKJaARsYE?feature=shared
Any of you actually resole here? My boots were around €300, resole around here is around half the price, I feel like by the time I'll have to resole I think I should just buy new boots for €300 again instead of paying €150 for a resole
I don’t see much posting about Wescos, other than Mr. Lou’s. Are they inferior to Whites, Nicks, and Franks? They seem like a nice boot with good construction and leather selection. What am I missing?
>>18293701it basically is a new pair of boots for half the price. The upper leather will be the same but the sole will be and feel new.
>>18293701I resole when it comes time. I want to keep my boots for as long as possible. I like the way the leather has aged and I like the way they fit. Also, being a poor guy, I use the money I save by resoling as the seed money for saving for a new pair of shoes in a different style than I currently own.
>>18293712there's nothing wrong with them from a quality standpoint. I think they use a celastic heel counter but I could be wrong. Only other thing is lead times on custom boots. They're currently sitting at 18 months.
>>18293712Absurd lead times. If you want an engineer or a western pull on boot they're the best, but if you just want a service boot, it's better to go with a different maker since quality is comparable and you'll get them in half the time
>>18293701I have on one pair, but they were double the price of yours so financially and for comfort it made sense.
>>18293712I love my Wescos. My only complaint is that they're a little small so I can't wear my thicker boot socks with them. The common advice is to go a 1/2 size down but for these true brannock would have been better. Otherwise they're amazing.
>>18293712they're a smaller company so they have even longer lead times than white's. personally i do not like their laced boot patterns but their engineers are the GOAT
>>18293366I prefer the Cruiser
>>18293741Those look fucking sick, anon.
>>18293803beautiful wool trousers. w2c?
>>18293832spier and mackay high rise rust donegal
>>18292809This part is really really ugly and will make you look like you're 80. I can't understand why some people like it.
>>18293854
Is this a very good pair of shoes or only a mildly good pair of shoes?https://bakershoe.com/products/red-wing-heritage-mens-iron-ranger-boot-style-8111?variant=39251578617937
>>18293879RW are the starting point of good boots
>>18293259Just get a pair of Fracap
>>18293859I don't like it.
>>18293881What does that mean, in your own words?
>>18293897where to begin..
>>18293897>c*lastic toe cap clearly visible
>>18293897Look at those fucking ridiculous shitters lmfao
>>18293889>Good quality leather uppers >solid thick leather footbed (this is where shit brands like turdsdays cuts corners)
>>18293897take your father's boots off right now
>>18293897they look pretty solidly built to me
>that one retarded non-American who keeps calling things "shitters"
>>18293932The word "shitters" is also in the general's guide. Seethe harder, fag.
>>18293936>the same retard made the retarded OP
>>18293932ok shitter
Not sure what style to go for next, I've ordered a pair of RW Iron rangers and Loake Sedberghs. Most likely going for the Loakes but anyone who has them and can give a rundown? Getting C&J:s isn't a option, way beyond my budget.
>>18293991The ones in that picture look extremely nice.
>>18293803nice boots anon, what leather?
how do i stop this from happening? everytime i wear these boots they oxidize
anybody have some good recs for medium-heavy boot socks? I've got some good pairs but am looking for something a little heavier. Preferably wool/wool blend.>>18294013I don't even see what you're talking about
>>18294013clean and get some wax in the gap
>>18294019The blue thing around the eyelets.
>>18294019heavy green (oxidation ) build up around the brass eyelets
Astorflex Boot V55https://vintage55.com/en/shop/shoes/boots/astorflex-boot-v55/
>>18294031I just love fake distressing on boots, moreso the artificial darkening on the toe. Wish more makers would do that.
>>18294035It's neither fake nor intentional.
>>18293897This is an instant return.
>>18294063nopeany nigs boot with a safety toe like this can't be returned>Because Nicks purchases safety toe inserts from a third party supplier, Nicks cannot guarantee toe box comfort for steel, composite or fiberglass toed boots. “Toe rub” is not covered under our warranty policy.this has always been an issue with nigs and they still haven't sourced hard toes that work with their lasts after all these yearsevery other PNW brand can do it and offer returns, but not nigs "the real work boot brand"
>>18293259Tricker's Burford
Opinions on Grant Stone boots?
>>18294082also interesting footnote on nigs returns FAQ>Factory Seconds are final sale. Some customer have had success with selling their boots on Ebay or Facebook Marketplace if they don't work out for their needs, so that is typically what we recommend!if you don't like our boots we recommend you just sell them to someone elsethis company is not serious
>>18294087>factory secondscan you read anon? retarded? obtuse?
>>18293897Plebbitors will do this retarded shit but refuse to wear moc toes
>>18294086i like
>>18294106guaranteed its a larp and he doesn't need steel toes.
>>18294102can you read?
>>18294008wesco boss 7500
>>18294030other than moving to a less humid country not much you can do
>>18293897Jim Green won
>>18292668White's
>>18294086Genuinely nice boots. Easy price point thanks to Chinese labor.
>>18294136They look great but I don't like the laces.
>>18294136based alert
>>18294082fuck steeltoes they're technically required where I work but I just wear boots that look like they have steel toes. Most of my coworkers wear shitty steel toed sneakers which won't protect shit unless something falls specifically on the toe. I'd rather have multiple layers of 8 ounce leather around my whole foot.
>>18294138I'll be swapping in the waxed cotton after they're broken in. Leather laces have a little bit of extra give that I have found advantagous as I put miles on them.>>18294139Black chromexcel
>>18293366What leather are those made from?
>>18293897>average nigs customer
>>18294030its called verdi gris
>>18294196Black XXL Whites does the best CXL of any brand I've seen. Mine are absolutely flawless while my Indys look like absolute shit
>>18294283because they're buying the heavier stuff
>>18294283>CXLdogshit oily leather only liked because gis didn't have to maintain it when roughout under 37 layers of oil buy double shot for a real lema2odleather
>>18294293What a bunch of retarded ESL gibberish
I just ordered these C&J.>inb4 "reeee suede boots"yeah well I like them.
>>18294491suede is literal scrap leather should've gotten roughout
>>18294492I like suede, it reminds me of cocoa.
>>18294492you are always so negative, faggot
>>18294491What last are they on? 378?>>18294530and wrong too.
>>18294536>What last are they on? 378?365
>>18294541nice more 365, they are gonna be really comfortable on vi-lite soles
>>18294293Shut the fuck up already. Of all places on the internet waste your time trolling it's a boot thread on 4chan Get a life
Only reason I got my Indys in the calf leather is because I was afraid CXL would end up looking like shit But the calf leather looks like shit instead
>>18294606>disagreement is trollingcxl is shit and everyone knows it
>>18294629So don't buy it, faggot
>>18294630i dont but im free to warn others
>>18294632You're not warning anything. You're just a faggot that doesn't even own boots
>>18294634i own boots and seem to own space in your head since youre not charging rent
>>182946352/10
>>18294635post boots then. you posting style is noticeable, you argue and troll about everything yon bitter annoying slavic fuck
>>18294656swing and a missim not him buddyboy
80 bucks for these? Old ass Costume National boots, made in italy, leather sole.I'd bring them to a local shoe maker to get them touched up.Thoughts?
>>18294685Might add, I'll either get these or a pair of Prada pants, before my thrifting budget is spent.
>>18294629CXL is great when it's not the split down garbage on your Turdsdays. Sorry you got scammed by their YouTube marketing.
ropertard having his mood swings again
>>18294685Those look pretty cool, would cop if the price is right
>>18294685>z*ppers
>>18294704He's been pulling the same stunt on the denim thread.
>>18294706Price is 80 bucks>>18294712And?
>>18294685How are the soles? For 80 eurobucks they could be decent daily beaters.
>>18294716you're gonna come back crawling and crying about the zippers in less than a month
>>18294716If the soles are in decent shape I'd cop for $80
>>18294749How so?
>>18294729>>18294729Sole looks like this.
>>18294785Isn't that the insole?
>>18294788Not sure. I asked the seller for clear pics of the soles. Let's see if he delivers. Somehow I am strangely drawn towards these old things.
as a semi poor fags these are my only options. im thinking timbre
>>18294805Timbs
>>18294788Got them. Looks not too bad actually. I think I'll go for it.
>>18294813You're certainly not going to find anything nicer at that price point. The only concerning thing is the zipper but that's not as big as deal as a lot of anons make it out to be desu
>>18294805Both are pretty equal so just pick whichever you find more aesthetically pleasing. Or just don't buy any boots now, put the money you were planning to spend on them, wait for one or two more paychecks, and then buy Red Wings.
>>18294803>>18294813ask him for close up pics of zippers on both boots. soles look good.
Some basic chukkas, but I just really like the taupe colour tone. Lets see how they look IRL
>>18294491They're gorgeous.
>>18294491brass eyelet > silver eyelets for brown suede
>>18294629>t.turdsday buyer
horweens bravest soldiers
Just moved to Texas for my job. Recommended be some good WELTED cowboy boot brands, preferably ones with roper bootsThey gotta be welted, no cemented trash
>>18293052They are veg retan not pure veg.It's the same method that Chromexcel uses.
>>18295015>Manufactured with a double layer of 2.2mm Veg retanned leather for added durability
>>18295011Tecovas or Chisos
>>18293052>>18295015>>18295019>leather>veg
>>18295046vegetable tanning retard
>>18295046
Moma 9093, 9094https://kissuomo.it/products/moma-9093https://kissuomo.it/products/moma-anfibio-pelle-effetto-vintage-colore-nero-9094They're so fucking cool.
>>18293879what jackets look good paired with heritage leather boots like this? denim/trucker?
>>18295144Denim, navy chinos, beige or blue linen pants, olive or dark green corduroy pants
>>18295144filson mackinawspier and mackay polo coat
>>18293486I have a pair of these. They're good vfm.
I wanna get a headstart on summer, any recs for unlined chukkas, preferably on the cheaper (sub 300) range? Or other boots that do well at 40°C.
>>18294491Nice.>>18294492They use Repello Suede.
>>18295345How was the sizing for you? Their sizing guide is utterly retarded, it says to add 5mm to your foot length and pick that size. My feet are 26cm, I usually wear a 42.5 in sneakers and 42 in boots/shoes. Their smallest insole length is 27.2cm, and that would be a size 39.5. It’s obvously wrong.
>>18295390The sizing advice is retarded.I took the same size as any other English brand. Grenson, Tricker's, Loake etc.They're quite wide and roomy. The facings close completely, jic you're used to American style facings.
What do we think of the new filson X Birkenstock Collab?
>>18293419these look like what my grandpa wore (I mean that in a good way; I may buy a pair lol)
>>18293419Looks like a moc had sex with a boat shoe and the product became retarded.
>>18293913>>18293889>>18293879they're the gold standard of quality boots. I guess they're out of popularity now but for years they were the dominant boot of guys into fashion and quality. If you take good care of them they will last you the rest of your life. Mine were the most expensive boots I've ever bought at 320 and I still think "damn that was a lot of money". But they're still going great after 5 years and are nowhere near needing a resole. Fantastic boots, the best I've ever owned. (not mine in pic)
>>18295414looks hideous and like total shit. But all birkenstocks look like total shit so idk what I expected
>>18295427>they're the gold standard of quality bootsshow your work
>>18295453Capitalise your sentences when you address me boy
>>18295469He capitalized on his ability to call out those ugly abominations.
>>18295483They're swag and you don't know what you are talking about
>>18295491Use proper punctuation when you address me, you unwashed swine.
>>18295527You can't turn it back around on me man, We all know you can't come correct.
>>18295427>But they're still going great after 5 years and are nowhere near needing a resole.I'm considering buying their moc toe but someone said they needed a resole really early on. Was that just bollocks?
>>18295563They will need a resole sooner than their other boots due to the wedgebeing softer and wearing out faster. It depends on how much you wear them.
>>18295563It's just a trade off of wedge soles in general. They're comfortable to walk/stand on especially concrete shop floors but they wear out faster. It's not a big deal unless you're planning to wear them hard 5 days a week in a trade.
>>18295563wedges are softer so mile for mile they will need replacing faster but that's not to say they wear down fast
we're LETTING in the space boot which is free at level 1, and we should be replacing the EARTH BOOT which cost dollars ect.this should reduce all problems and allow us to move on to a spacial colony
>>18295408Thanks. Sorry, could you give more details? Feet in cm and the size you chose?
Put some PaTiNA on my Islays
Is there any info online about the approximate number of days different kinds of soles last before needing a replacement?
>>18295657don't envy having to clean out all the broguing after that
>>18292668
>>18295695
>>18295689i have a boar bristle brush for brogues
What good brands are there for europoors? Most of the brands discussed here are MIUSA and dont ship to eu. max 500€
>>18295730trickers
>>18295737theyre close to 700, not paying that
>>18295742the factory shop
>2 week old turdsdayswhen will they learn >>18295753halloween sale most likely soon too.
lol
>>18295766Looks good to me. The dude could always give it a good 12 grit belt sanding till the desired degree of delamination is achieved.
>>18295762They'll never learn. They're a bunch of retarded aging millennials, mentally stuck in 2005 when $200 for cloths/shoes was not an insignificant amount of money. They can't wrap their heads around the fact that if they want something nice, especially boots, they're gonna have to pay an amount outside of their fast fashion comfort zone.
>>18295826cool projection, bro
>>18294805docs aren't even boots, they're decorative boot-shaped objects at best. get timbs
>>18295930That hit a little too close to home didn't it. How are your Turdsday Challengers holding up? Like wet cardboard I'm sure.
>>18295826at least thursday has realized this and is now taking advantage of said retards
>>18295957it's hilarious that you actually think $200 would be a lot of money to anyone else but youyou really think people need to decieve themselves with 20 years of inflation to think thursday is top of the line? where do you even come up with this?
>>18295976Kill yourself you ESL faggot. You have the reading comprehension of chimp.
>>18295986>mentally stuck in 2005 when $200 for cloths/shoes was not an insignificant amount of moneywhat do you mean reading comprehension?your entire post goes on the poorfag assumption that people buy thursday to somehow feel like they're spend a lot of money on them>You have the reading comprehension of chimp.you would know ESL faggot
>>18295996How are you so fucking retarded that you're not understanding it? Favela dwelling ape. We need to range ban South America.
I liek bootsI don't liek the fighting
>get brass boots in cxl #8>way softer than my diesel boots in black cxlDo different cxl colors have different stiffness? These brass boots feel way more comfy out of the box than my diesels.
>>18295427>they're the gold standard of quality bootsLul. They're so famous mostly because they're American, and Americans are a shit ton on this planet. Not judging their obvious quality, but made in Italy shoes could be the platinum standard, if those are the gold standard.
>>18296056>but made in Italy shoes could be the platinum standard>bl*ke>gold standard
>>18296061Where did you get that asterisk from? Fresh out of your anus?
>>18296064newfag
>>18296056can americans make loafers as well as italians?probably notcan italians make work boots as well as americans?probably not
>>18296069Some anon was shilling Fracap boots in one of the recent threads. I haven't tried them (yet), but they look like, and are universally considered, god-tier quality boots.
>>18296072>someone else posted something i wouldn't know anything aboutred wing BTFO
Best combat boots?
also called:- military boots- tactical boots- survival boots- assault boots- army boots
BRUH
>>18296083Danner Marine Expeditionary Boots (or the now discontinued Danner RAT boots)
I like the word 'boots'. I like the video game Shantae because Shantae has cause to say the word 'boots' often and it's super cute
>>18294868These arrived and they look like garbage IRL, they have an old, worn out grey tone rather than the taupe shownSo yeah, I'm open for SEXcore chukkas/desert boot suggestions. In the budget range around $200, $250 max, please
why is it so hard to find service boots in Europoor?
>>18296319There's plenty of european brands which have service boots if you don't wanna order overseas. You can get Red Wings from european retailers.
>>18296320there are very, very few ones a search yields that arent American brands - vibergs imported for ridiculous prices and similar stuffthese are some of the fewhttps://www.skolyx.se/de/boots/1306-yanko-service-boot-dunkelbraun.html
I basically want this, but in this >>18294868 more greyish color tone. Perhaps a tad taller.
>>18296056>>18295463wow this is fascinating. Iron Rangers used to be the poster child of these threads, and now it's full of snobs lol. I worry that this means that consumerism has advanced and managed to convince people they need to be spending much more on their first boots. similar to how elementary school kids are buying 400 dollar bottles of fragrance just to sit in math class lmao.Anyway Iron Rangers are fantastic and don't let anyone tell you otherwise
>>18296061maybe they should because made in italy boots are in no way considered a fashion standard that most americans will own.
>>18296350Those are Iron Rangers? Ugh. They don't look that good, mate.
>>18295563>I'm considering buying their moc toe but someone said they needed a resole really early on.idk i'm convinced that most people either mistreat the hell out of their boots or maybe just straight up drag their feet because some resole time periods I've seen are crazy, yes. But like I said if you are wearing them for fashion as in attending college classes, walking around town, living life, they really are fine and should last quite a while.Of course they are fashion boots and shouldn't be used for actual construction work. Red wing makes those boots too which are really great. They're what are still in my grandpa's closet. He was a welder in Indiana. There's a brand new pair of supersoles in his closet that look like they were bought in the 80s or 90s. But they're size 7 lol.
>>18296356>>18296350These are Ebony Harness color, which is the one I got. I like that they look different. Amber Harness is the most popular color and Copper Rough & tough after that. Would you believe that I tried on and retuned 7 different pairs of boots before I settled on those? I also tried wolverines and whites. 4 different pairs of Iron rangers in different sizes and colors. Hmm maybe I really am ocd after all
>>18295469this is 4chan you can't control me! I reserve the right to type as lazily as I want
>>18296375How did you feel about Wolverines and Whites?
>>18295491ah so you're that kind of person that likes looking like shit ////ironically///
>>18296378Anyone who loves birkenstock is that kind of person.
>>18296320>You can get Red Wings from european retailers.they're hugely marked up in europe lmao
>>18296382They're 50 euros more expensive, it's not that much.
>>18296377I felt insulted by Wolverines for the price they were asking and in that they were trying to compare themselves to Red Wings. They were really nice and I was tempted to keep them, but you can tell that they're a little more delicate and also are a little more lacking in ruggedness. Also they're leather soles and you're kinda walking on the ground.Would be worth it if they were cheaper.White's were obviously superior and works of art. But much more expensive. I mean money wasn't really too much of an object because I had planned the purchase for a whole year lmao. But there is a sense of getting value for money and being pragmatic so you aren't talking yourself into needlessly overspending. The White's also didn't fit otherwise I was VERY tempted to keep them. But I've been glad time and time again that I got the Iron Rangers because there's something in their shape that just makes them very unpretentious and classic. Like I know if I had gotten the white's they wouldn't have exactly fit in all the situations I can wear the red wings in. Like since I know they're based on real coal mining work boots and made by a boot company I'm not afraid to actually wear them on my motorcyle or to rake leaves. Whereas the white's were just too nice and too expensive to do something like that with. And the wolverines would have had me sliding all over like I was on banana peels.oh that reminds me. Since you guys are a newer generation I bet you didn't know Iron rangers used to have flat cork soles like this! by the time I bought mine they had the vibram mini lug soles thank god.
>>18296382It's roughly the same, remember burgers don't include VAT in their advertised prices. And if you look out for sales you can easily get a pair for less than 300 yuros.
>>18296387>White's were obviously superioryes
>>18296391I tried the stevens in British Tan.That Chromexcel was beautiful and so thick. But so beautiful that I knew I would probably hate myself if I scuffed them. And also since they're a little more dressy seem to be something you dress up rather than dress down. Like they wouldn't look as good with a white t and jeans like Iron Rangers do. And they would look odd on a motorcycle or in that kind of environment. they're more like city boots I guess.The other white's boots just look so fucking massive. Like I like the 350 cutters but that heel is massive and triple stitching makes the foot bigger
>>18296387>Iron rangers used to have flat cork soles like thisWhat’s bad about that?
>>18296396nothing bad, just different and interesting. Apparently those soles would take forever to wear out so they were great in that aspect. The smooth surface was allegedly sketchy in wet and icy weather.
>>18296350I just love my Iron Rangers so much it's unreal.
>>18296382370 dollars vs 375 euros for IRs doesn't seem like a huge markup to me.
>>18296387Mine still have the flat cork nitrile soke. Haven't slipped once on rain.
>>18296393i cant get over the bulbous toe/clown shoe aesthetic of the iron rangers. the blacksmiths look good imo, and more comparable to whites mp plain toe looks wise
>>18296305Just get Clark's
>>18296451Blacksmiths are canceled. The Beckman is back.
Can I get a QRD on the difference between Blake Stitch and Goodyear Welt?
>>18296479and I mean the difference in terms of consequences and implications, not in terms of structure, which I know
>>18296463they look cheap and atrocious, because they arethey dont have that sexy a tad elevated silhouette im looking for
... maybe desert boots generally suck as a genre and I should get a low service boot instead. but im not giving up on one yet.
>>18296489astorflex
>>18296474really? blacksmith seemed like a more versatile boot
>>18296492I've been wanting desert boots for some time since they always look good in pics. But everytime I try them on in person it's like naah, not for me.
>>18296506How? The beckman has always been the superior version. Can't speak for the new one, though
>>18296474Ugly boot.
Engineer boots are pure sex.
This is the best Service boot I could find in Poorrope that doesn’t cost over €300. Should I? Its no Viberg, but looks nice to Normies but not too expensive, which is what I’m aiming for. A boot that goes with every outfit https://www.skolyx.se/de/boots/1306-yanko-service-boot-dunkelbraun.html
>>18296542Yanko is good. You might want to look at Urban Sheperd for something more rugged if that's what you're looking for.https://urbanshepherdboots.com/
>>18296319European military boots are way better than American service boots.
>>18296510i meant compared to the iron rangers not the beckman
Do these people squabbling over brands of PNW boot actually use them in rugged conditions or are they just for mincing about an office and occasionally using a ladder to put up a rainbow flag?
>>18296549Post an example, I'm interested
>>18296542Imo you're just better off buying the Vibergs or a plain toe MP from White's. Buy once cry once.
>>18296587>$1289Fucking kek.
>>18296587i dont have 800 euros for a boot. remember, the word Europoor comes from poor
>>18296593The average american is ten times more indebted than the average european. Stop shitting on your own race, friend.
>>18296611but they have great service boots and we dont. thats the only thing that matters in life if you think about it.
>>18296616Stop buying American crap.
>>18296623thats not a service boot thougheverbeit, its too delicate looking
>>18296623sauce
>>18296625If you're that retarded maybe buy some Solovair or something.>>18296625Joseph Cheaney
>>18296625Why do you care? Nobody's gonna be fooled into believing you're a rugged blue collar worker.
For me? It's gonna have to be the Burford.
>>18296616Not true. There are top-quality boot brands in Italy, Spain, Portugal and UK. Just dig a bit more.
>>18296616As usual the nips are actually better than the Americans when it comes to American heritage so just buy Japanese made service boots if you want the highest end service boots.
>>18296641Anyone would be better than Americans if everyone had the economy of Japan.
>>18296558I use them for work where I'm required to wear safety boots and I used my safety boot reimbursement mandated by Osha to pay for them.
>>18296590buy once cry once
>>18296699There are equally good boots that cost half. You're a moron if you buy a pair of shoes for the price of a vintage Omega.
>>18296701>There are equally good boots that cost halfthere are boots that cost half sure but equally good? no
>>18296703Yes, there are. Lurk more.
>>18296705why don't you post some then?
>>18296641>if you want the highest end service boots.no, as I've said, im looking for the entry level of good boots, around 300 euros or 350 dollars>>18296630solovair are a good suggestions for that price range, I'll look at them
>>18296632no, but service boots have the exact balance between dressy finesse and casual roughness I am looking for. brogues lean too much into dressy
>>18296719>>18296719>>18296719
>>18296625sanders boots fit your budget, are quality uk made boots, but not quite service boots. service boots are a us and canada thing.
