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/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - EASYMOC EDITION

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest them

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.

Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Bespoke
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia

Boot Red Flags
>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams
>Combination/mixed material heels

Boot Brands NO
>Turdsdays
>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters
>any Whatsapp makers in the far east

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>tfw the welt on my 10 year old RW875s are in better condition
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キタ━━━(゜∀゜)━━━ッ!!!!!!!!
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>>18286892
>fake pre-stitched fiberboard welt for blake stitch that cracks
>the real leather midsole looks like compressed shit
>the stitches on the cap toe are getting pulled apart
average mall shit lasts longer than this
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https://youtu.be/wAeDQORnzPY&t=815
>Bedo walks into Nigs booth at Boot Camp
>starts filming their boots as the CEO's bald head pops in and out of the shot
>sees this right away
>zooms in and holds on it for 30 seconds
>says nothing
>cuts the camera
kino

what the fuck were they thinking putting this on dislpay?
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Which black leather boots does /btg/ recommend? I would like something like pic related
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>>18286951
????????????????
what is that
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>>18286960
https://emptygarage.jp/SHOP/WHITESSTOCK227.html
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>>18286403
Damn. Being thirld world sucks, these Alden boots are almost one month of my salary right now.
I guess i'll stick to the same shitty boots.
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>>18286976
I'm not waiting a month to get my order from Japan, is there really nothing in EU with just EU sizes
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>>18287019
no cause EU is the land of prancing la la homomen
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>>18286867
Reposting: does anyone have any experience with the GoldenFox boondockers?
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>>18286960
I immediately thought of paraboot but I don't actually know if they make something in this style.
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>>18287019
it takes 2 days to ship to europe
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>>18286960
I think I'll go with these from Redwing
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>>18287047
Solid choice.
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>>18287047
i actually reconsidered for you and youre going to get brass boots from grant stone
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Are Wescos any good?
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>>18287075
Yes, but the arch support isn't as strong as the other PNW brands.
The heel stiffener is also thermoplastic and not leather unlike other PNW brands, it's still durable though.
Biggest drawback is that the wait length is 2 years.
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>>18287075
their engineers are the gold standard
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>>18286951
>make logger boots out of meme leather
>it's dogshit
Classic nigz
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>>18287024
No but looking into them a bit, I feel they can't be any worse than Turdsday. They certainly look nicer than Turdsday, pattern wise. Take one for the team and try them.
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>>18287073
It has a bunch of orange, don't like it
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>>18287168
buy a bottle of feibings you emo
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>people who wear all black
>always turning out to be reddit troons
what an interesting phenomenon
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>>18287170
Why are you angry, whats wrong with the Redwing one?
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>>18287180
im not even mad
i just shill for free as a gimmick
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Have any of you bought the ropers or cowboy boots from Ringers Western?
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>>18287075
they're good from what I've heard but their website is a little outdated
>saw a pair of limited edition horsebutt boots in their seconds section
>they were my size and about half off full price
>put them in cart and checkout
>nothing happens, no confirmation screen
>no charge to card either
I could've called them but I took it as a sign not to drop more money on boots
if you're interested in the PNW boots look at JK too
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was looking at jeans on this site and noticed they have a few Vibergs on sale if anyone is interested
https://www.blueowl.us/collections/sale
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how should I determine if my boots look disproportionately large on me? i am 183cm tall and I got boots at UK size 9. is there a ratio between leg length and shoe length at which it starts to look goofy? do people notice or am i overthinking?
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>>18287364
I feel like my work boots look like clown shoes when I look down at them but when I see them from the side they look fine
no one is gonna see the boots from your perspective
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>>18287364
Its not something you have to worry about at 183 and UK9.
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>>18287364
my hiking boots make me look like i'm cosplaying kingdom hearts in tapered jeans but they look normal in fatigues.
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>>18287364
same boot with fatigues. looks way better.
its about proportion with your trousers mostly. the taller you are the skinnier of trousers will look normal with overly long/bulbous/bulky boots.
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>>18287364
the reason why boots look disproportionately large is because people hike their pants too high
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>>18287364
UK 9 is pretty small for your height.

I am 182 and have a UK size 11 and it still looks fine as long as I don't wear anything skinny
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Does this come off or stay on the outsole?
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>>18286867
I have received far more compliments from men and women, old and young, directed at my beaten up, cracked, non-watertight red Doc Martens than I have for any other style or colour or material boots.
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>>18287686
That's because for normies docs are the pinnacle of boots, they're also easily reconigzable and the oxblood is really eye catching.
So sure, if getting compliments from normies is your main goal, you can't go wrong with docs, moreso in oxblood.
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fracap
https://fracap.it/customize/configure/4216/
as seen here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjEQRWN4hXY
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>>18286960
>>18287766
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>>18287654
you can take it off
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>tfw still haven't found engineers or ropers in yurop
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>>18287777
Is it meant to?
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>>18287806
And you never will
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>>18287806
https://brightshoemakers.com/collections/horween-x-dr-sole/products/bright-shoemakers-cxl-engineer-black-chromexcel

https://www.lateliermonsieur.com/en/products/mister-lou-engineer-7600-horween-black-horsehide?_pos=2&_sid=abc841ee9&_ss=r

https://sandmanncraft.de/products/great-plains-vulcano
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>>18286951
grant stone can last chicken skin just fine
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I thought this question might be better for here instead of the sneaker general. I was looking at pic related and just wanted go know if anyone had experience with this company or could comment if this is a ripoff for leather shoes. A friend who has some of their regular sneakers likes them, but I am looking for other opinions. I am firmly a city dweller and have been looking for something that isn't a heavy boot but would be better than my sneakers for bad weather. If you have alternatives that have this kind of hiking boot aesthetic without being a heavy boot I am open to other options.

https://crownnorthampton.com/en-us/collections/luxury-handmade-sneakers/products/everdon-rambler-wholecut-mid-black-horween-buffalo?_pos=24&_fid=b305a2b66&_ss=c
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>>18287862
they seem fine but look like they'd have no ankle or arch support
Also not sure if it's worth paying that much for buffalo leather that looks like that. Buffalo leather usually looks more pebbly, like pic related, than that so I'm not sure if horween is matting the leather to give a more uniform look.
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>>18287880
The lack of support is not an issue for my use. I really just want the aesthetic and better water resistance than normal sneakers. Shame if they're overpriced though, not wanting to overspend if there are just as good alternatives available somewhere. If there's no other options though I'll probably still buy them, if they aren't terrible quality.
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>>18287862
>>18287891
seems very overpriced for the durability. especially for something you want to wear in bad weather. might as well get an actually hiker like boot. probably cheaper and way more durable.
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>>18287862
Crown Northampton makes really nice stuff. I'd say go for it. Probably can't get anything better than that in that style.

Probably gonna get their desert boot myself next summer.
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>>18287828
Sucks to be me.
>>18287840
>brightcucks
Massive toe. Teacore. Brown sole. 44 not in stock.
>mister lew
Could get over the ugly brown sole since it's Wesco, but pre-order for whoever knows when. One thousand yurop dollars. Only one size each of the sizes I fall in, and I might not be able to exchange them if the one I get is not right.
>sandguy
These are an abomination between a roper and an engineer. Strap is ugly but other than that I could make a compromise, assuming 44 fit me, since they're 500 bucks. At the same time it might be better to spend 200 more and order some Asian MTO engineer, except then I'd only be able to get them for next year's fall season.

Was waiting for the brightcuck vulture boot, but that one is gonna be teacore, and also for the black ones they're using brass buckles instead of nickel, which ruins the entire look.

Another option is these

https://dc4.de/footwear/engineer-boots/makers-hsb-04-engineer-boots-guidi-horse-butt-leather.html

What do you guys think? Assuming I can fit in a 10 or 11. Not sure what Makers Guidi is. They look kinda round, but might be ok when they break in.

If I go the MTO route and waiting until next year, I'm considering these Japanese ones. I think they look good and the price isn't too bad. Have a lot of customization options. Not sure how hard customs will fuck my ass though.

https://argo-shoes.net/en/products/engineer-boots-keel
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>>18286867
woodland, is ok? no ok? money
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>remove the high heels from PNW boots
>they don't look feminine anymore and actually pretty good
wow...
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>>18287998
>american lasting
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>>18287766
>>18287767
Those look great anon, but I went ahead and got this one
https://redwingamsterdam.com/products/8074-moc-toe-black-harness
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>>18287998
looks like its falling backwards
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>>18287926
Well, I'm positively surprised that on top of the shitload of complaints you usually deliver this time you went ahead and actually did the homework.

Truth is, on these days, if you wanna get a pair of engineers that don't suck you're looking at dropping 1k. Consdering this I would hold out until you're 100% sure you're getting the exact boots you want with all the features you're looking for instead of settling for close enough.
Even if you're 100% sure there'll be some regret down the line, so settling for less means more pain in the future.
With all that said, good luck.
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>>18288003
360 stitchdown should be more common
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>>18288125
Isn't that just veldtschoen? And stitchdown is just a 270 veldtschoen.
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>>18288124
>this time
Try every time.
>Consdering this I would hold out until you're 100% sure you're getting the exact boots you want
Yeah that's why I'm iffy about all of these and still haven't bought anything.
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>>18287998
>PNW boots are sexy, said the shit skin
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>>18288125
Veldtshoen still has a welt. Stitchdown doesn’t and is inferior to it an even gyw.
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>>18288124
thanks for enabling this nutcase
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>>18288190
Shoe within a shoe M8
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>>18288125
360 looks like garbage and puts a big shelf behind your heel which is bad for gait.
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>>18288125
grenson?
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>>18286867
Thoughts on Thursday Boots?
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>>18288301
for poor retards who think they're getting good value
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>>18288270
No anon. That's being an obese American and wearing cuban heels.

>>18288271
Yes m8
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>>18288310
You know nothing about boots or shoes.
Look at Bespoke shoes and guess what, you won't see a huge shelf behind your heel, the heel will be under your foot.
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>>18287862
Not this Anon, but what are some quality leather sneakers that are /btg/ approved? I know you guy's are great at selecting for quality.
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>>18288342
my pair from Baker's is pretty good, very reasonably priced but mystery mutt leather and made in mexico
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is there nothing that can be done about squeaky boots? one of my timberlands squeaks when i bend my foot. it sounds like the sound originates in the area i've marked in red, inside the sole. i've tried putting talc under the insole but that didn't work. i dont think it was always like this, it might've started after some wear. its driving me insane. can a cobbler do something about it, or can this issue sometimes be unsolvable? i can only wear them outside where its loud because otherwise it sounds fucking goofy when i walk,
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>>18288320
There are boots for wearing and boots for looking at and mincing about.

Being on 4chan your probably into the latter.
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>>18288382
probably an affect of whatever garbage leather timberland uses
you could try conditioning them
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>>18288385
You're*
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>>18288382
if the squeak is between the layers then there's not much that can be done
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>>18288301
like Georgia with better leather but worse QC
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>>18288382
the lasting board is rubbing against the rubber on the inside, these are synthetic components
probably nothing you can do and a cobbler would have to take the whole boot apart to fix it, which would be cost prohibitive and you'd end up with a boot that is bonded worse, because these boots are disposable
you can try some conditioner on the insole like suggested, at least it can't make things worse
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Asked this on the cowboy boot thread, but might as well ask here.

>>18288407
>Question for cowboys out there. I got a pair of cowboy boots with a leather sole. It doesn't rain much where I live so I usually don't have much trouble with them. However this fall seems to be very rainy and the winter's gonna probably be too.
>Would the rain ruin the sole? Should I take them to a cobbler and have him put rubber half soles on them?
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>>18288385
More seething with zero substance
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>>18288415
>>Would the rain ruin the sole?
leather soles wear down very very fast when wet, so you'll see significant wear in short period time if you are wearing them in wet conditions. There is no harm in getting a topy/half sole on them
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>>18288416
(You)
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Looking for a Chelsea boot, budget is $800. I don't think I can pull off the slim SLP look, on the flip slide Blundstones look a little too chunky and rustic. I also have a fairly large foot, my brannock size is 12E, most boots I have are either 11.5E or 12D.
What are my options? I like the look of Thursday Cavaliers but I know better than to buy them, I don't want to deal with QC issues. I've got a few pair of Grant Stone boots, I like the Dune CXL, black is sold out in my size. Allen Edmonds Liverpool looks ok too, I've never had any issues with my AE shoes or boots. What else should I be looking at?
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>>18288497
RM williams gardeners
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>>18288497
I know nick's has chelseas
viberg too but they're around $900
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>>18288382
I've had the same problem with these boots for a while and ive just given up on trying to fix it, it just seems like it uses garbage leather like the other anon said, nothing works man I tried it all. I bought new boots from Redwing now and hopefully they're better, fuck Timberlands.
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what's the best resolable hiking boots if money's no object?
i learned from rose anvil's side channel and then researching a bit that there's a huge cottage industry actually making the type of boots i want over in europe. a lot of the websites aren't in english though. i only speak eng and some german.
anyone know about those in here?
would any of the boots made over in europe be better for my needs than a pair of russell mocs or similar?

i'm looking for something resolable and more eco friendly i can burn up the miles on for my more casual day hikes and shorter backpacking trips. i do all my hiking in/around the cascades so think very rainy, very mountainous, lots of wet rock. but i won't be crossing glaciers in these things i have other boots for that. it'd be nice if i could take them on less technical but long distance section hikes too.

i already own several cemented modern hiking/mountaineering boots of varying degrees of seriousness and approach shoes i'm not looking to replace those. every time i post about hiking boots i get told to buy danners (lol) or to buy cemented boots hence this disclaimer.
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>>18288518
What's wrong with Danners?
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>>18288521
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>>18288523
We don't know what the person did with their shoes for this to happen and we don't know how long he owned them, but what are some brands you recommend then
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>>18288527
my guy leather should never peel like that unless it's a low quality pressed leather with a coating (which it is)
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>>18288527
cope. Why is this excusable on danner but not on thursdays when it's the same shit?
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>>18288518
danner, fracap, velasca, paraboot, grenson all make boots that look like that.

maybe try nicks ridgeline model pic rel. looks different than the traditional euro hiker but you can customize them fully and very durable.
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>>18288527
shitty office chairs do that same thing
just save yourself some foot pain and future heartache and go with a proper leather boot
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>>18288498
>RM williams gardeners
I know they aren't bad but they look a little rustic. I'm trying to find something that works for quasi sexxxcore fits.
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>>18288648
craftsman
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>>18288521
keep hearing from owners and seeing pics like that guy who replied indicating the quality's dropped in recent years.

>>18288527
>>18288539
i'm not just fucking around in manicured parks i need something i can like, depend on for my life lol. i go some pretty gnarly places and i'm not fair weather. i want the best thing no matter the cost idk.
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>>18288690
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>>18288527
What do you need to know? It's not leather obviously. You couldn't do that with real leather if you tried.
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>>18288690
Zesty
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>>18288690
>giant boots with high heels
>skinny jeans
average PNW boot consumer
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>>18288690
Millennials need to move on and stop wearing skinny jeans.
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>>18288529
>>18288539
>>18288543
>>18288674
>>18288704
Ok fair point guys, but what brands do you recommend for hiking then!!
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>>18288810
these are resoleable and look tanky
https://www.brandecosse.com/product/fagiano-country-boot/
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>>18288822
>>18288810
heres the pic
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>>18288822
>hey bro nice boots what are they called?
>faggy anus
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>>18288810
try hanwag
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>>18288518
>>18288810
>what's the best resolable hiking boots if money's no object?
Limmer Boots are the best hiking boots you can get. Made in New Hampshire.
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I've been using Clarks for some years and previously they would make the soles easily repairable by just swapping the bottom part on the heel, which is nailed to the sewn sole. However, now all of their boots' soles are just made by one piece and in order to repair them, I'd have to basically have them redone and that's where I first wear them. Can you recommend a manufacturer, who makes stylish boots, which are easily repairable?
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>>18288930
the easiest type of sole to repair imo would be a wedge type sole like this or another type of sole without a heel stack as when you need to replace they just peel it off from the midsole and glue another sole on the bottom
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>>18288939
I've always thought that would be a pain the ass to fix. Do you think that pic related is repairable, then?
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>>18288810
I agree with >>18288907 but only customs are made in New Hampshire. Ready to wear boots are made in Germany.

If money is no object, fly to New Hampshire to get fit and buy a pair of ready to wears while you wait for your customs.
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>>18286867
>C*rk/C*lastic
what the fuck does this mean?
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>>18288946
It would be easier and cheaper for a cobbler to rip off a glued sole and glue a new one on instead of removing nails and stitches like in this example
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AowAELJ_6wc
However outsoles that are nailed or stiched on are more durable and less likely to peel which is why the heavy duty type boots have the stiches going right through to the outsole.
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>>18288523
Kind of see the same thing happening with my black Timberlands, first boots I ever bought and I assumed it was good quality, never did anything crazy with them I basically just wear them for my office job and some walks, I guess it's the same garbage quality as Danners. Owned them for 2 years and it's squeaking like crazy as well.
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>>18288952
Thanks for the input.
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had my cobbler install some half lug soles and heels
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>>18288713
zoomers are still wearing skinny jeans
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>>18289018
Side pic?
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Thoughts about Nubikk boots?
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>>18289118
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>>18289121
the whisky shell looks great, wish this wasn't a "rare" color
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Can somebody recommend boots like this?
This style
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>nigs engineer
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>>18289144
Timberlands
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>>18289188
it just looks off
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>>18289107
Also thoughts about designer brands like Allsaints?

Plz help
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>>18289021
Blacks don't count with their preripped mall jeans that they wear around their knees.
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>>18289107
trashy
>>18289301
and ugly
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ring boots = sexo
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>>18288713
>>18289021
>squat 3pl8
>every pair of jeans becomes skinny jeans
It's over
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Horween finally focusing on more waxed flesh colors that are not just nigs exclusives
aspen horsehide looks good too i guess

https://youtu.be/JYMuTe5vpM8&t=70
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>>18289316
Take the loose climber pants pill.
I actually have a pair that I wear rock climbing and it out zoomers almost every zoomer in existence.
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>>18289118
>>18289121
Pretty cool, anon.
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>>18289383
I was about to post this because I haven't seen it in a while lmao
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>>18289388
lmao
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i found these boots and im thinking about buying them - Corcoran Jump Boots 1510
this is the description translated by a bot:

Made from thick, premium, soft patent leather.
The classic Corcoran Jump Boot combines vintage military style and design with significant updates for comfort and durability.
Comfortable, shock-absorbing footbed in the Combat Boot reduces the impact of jumps and impacts.
Boots with a beveled, oil-resistant outsole enhance traction and improve grip while moving.
Steel shank (rubber-coated steel shank) improves arch support and stability, and helps the boot maintain its shape for years of use.
10-inch boot provides secure ankle support for reliable maneuverability in the field.
The outsole is a stacked leather/rubber, stitched and nailed, resistant to chemical oil.
Additional protective pads in the toes and heel.
Made from very thick, top quality leather.

Are they generally comfortable or is it all just the looks?
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>>18289444
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>>18289444
>Made from thick, premium, soft patent leather.
>Made from very thick, top quality leather
oxymoronic. patent leather can never be good
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>>18289444
https://youtu.be/fkX3sZDBZZE
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>>18289140
>>18289385
thanks gents
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>>18289444
I have a pair of corcoran tankers
the things haven't broken in and they have some plastic shit in the sole
I don't even wear them anymore. I cut my losses and got some JKs.
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>>18289468
nooo do not stab the rich corcoranian leather
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>>18288270
Why is it bad for gait?
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>>18286867
>Wooden shoe trees
Nobody actually does this right...
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>>18289565
too poor?
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>>18289565
I do
cedar wood is the only thing that keeps the smell and moisture out. Those plastic balls are fucking useless.
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>>18289388
Stitchdown sisters?
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>>18288810
Limmer
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jim grene
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Grant Stone bison field boots are back in stock. Stop me, bros. I need this money for a gun or guitar speakers.
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>>18289610
I don't like wedge soles
that's about all I got
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>>18288518
There is a place in i think new Hampshire that does bespoke hiking boots.
I think they will only do orders if they can measure your feet in person
https://limmerboots.com/
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How often do I need to apply conditioner to my leather boots after cleaning them
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>>18289618
once a winter
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>>18288652
Damn those actually look good. Thanks!
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>>18289618
if they're work boots, once every month or two
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>>18289618
if you just need to rinse off your boots it is not always necessary to condition afterwards
if you are deep cleaning and using detergents it is

generally conditioning once after cleaning is enough, but you could divide the task into smaller parts if it's too much to handle at once or you get too tired in the middle of it
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>>18289642
fracap?
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I don't care I'd I look sexy or fashy or not: I want the most durable, well constructed boot money can buy. Doesn't matter the brand, last or style: If there's a boot that will last a lifetime, What is it /btg/?
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>>18289696
White's Semi Dress
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>>18289702
Promise?
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>>18289709
It doesn't have to be semi dress. Any mainline White's. If you don't like the default configurations you can order custom over the phone with White's or using Baker's Boots website.
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why is there a negative arch in my new red wing moc toes?
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>>18289720
Ok, so they stand in a league of their own? White's are right?
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Got these today. They're fucking stupid and I think they're awesome.
When Viberg did their deadstock shell offering in August I looked at the print on these and was initially going to take a hard pass. I liked the color but seeing the print on the sheet of sample leather it just looked wrong. Later someone posted a photo from a makeup Viberg did on the 2055 and I kept going back to them. The print looked ridiculous on its own but on a boot it was captivating. Two months later and here they are, the dumbest fucking boots I own.
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>>18289709
yes
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>>18289759
Tastefully trashy
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>>18289648
yep
https://fracap.it/customize/configure/8275/
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>>18289610
>buying a $300 gun
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Redwings and Wolverine. These are the only Made in USA boots I know of. Is there more (of the same quality)? Which is better?

Captcha: 2VAX2
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>>18289789
Frank's Boots, White's Boots, Nick's Boots all of those are a huge upgrade to what you are wearing.
If the price shock is too much look at the Frank's Patriot.
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>>18289789
wolverine is trash
>worst cuts of hormeme
>synthetic interior
red wing is great
>they own sb foot tannery so great leathers
>full leather interior
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>>18289843
would be done great burning man boots
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>>18290003
some* not done. im retarded
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>>18289118
>>18289121
Holy fuck. These are maybe the nicest boots I've ever seen.
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>>18290041
thanks anon. cordovan has unmatched depth of color imo
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>>18289759
definitely unique
would love to see an update on these when they are aged a bit
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Do I use both Obenauf Leather Oil and their Leather Protectant or just the LP? I ended up buying both
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>>18289310
everyone i know that wears birkenstock says the quality has gone downhill and the cork footbed cracks
wanted to buy some just for the house, but the prices are insane and the fit wasn't great
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>>18290141
you just need to apply one
smearing in both doesn't make it doubly protected, you'll just end up overconditioning
it's roughly the same ingredients in both products, just different concentrations of waxes to oils
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>>18290161
Oh okay that checks out, thanks Anon, I'll go with the LP
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>>18290141
what boots are you using them on? both will alter the color/tone of leather
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>>18290191
Just some brown franks patriots, nothing fancy, just my shitkickers
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>>18290141
LP for surface protection
the oil for deep conditioning
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>>18290093
nice anon, one of my fav boots too. Sometimes im unsure if i wouldn't have been better off with the dark brown, but i got a MTO shoe in dark brown coming soon too anyway.
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>>18290236
Damn, this was my first instinct too; I really feel like I should have done this way, but there's always next time.
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>>18290242
nice trousers and boots anon. what mto do you have coming?
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>>18290267
unlined shell PTBs by enzo bonafe. Something similar to this.
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What happens when you over condition your boots, and how can you tell whether you did or not?
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>>18286867
Can you recommend some stylish combat/ ankle boots?
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>>18290337
short term it'll feel "mushy"
long term you'll notice things like eyelets tearing from the surrounding leather
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>>18290337
the leather swells up and looks wet, even after resting for a day or more
the fibers in the leather become looser and more fragile as a result, the voids between them are clogged, when you bend the leather these excessive waxes and oils have to be displaced somehow and end up bursting the fibers
overconditioning is one of the fastest ways to ruin a pair of boots, usually faster than not conditioning at all
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None of the cobblers in my area do goodyearwelt resoles. What's the point of resolable boots if there's noone left to do the resoling?
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>>18290492
you send it back to the manufacturer for a resole

you did buy from a reputable manufacturer that does resole their own boots right?
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>>18290492
aren't goodyear welts the ones that cobblers are supposed to be able to do?
I thought blake stitch was the one that needed a machine
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>>18290494
That would add a week or more for shipping to the job.

>>18290499
Cobblers these days mostly glue rubber soles and make copies of keys.
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>>18290503
ok and?
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>>18290507
That they do not have the machines nor the skills to do goodyearwelt resoles.
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two weeks into dome and people are already cheating their ass off in the most retarded ways possible
this has to be a new record

>Yardwork and dog walking
even if he was dragged by sled dogs all day long the edges wouldn't be this frayed
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>>18290537
fresh off the belt sander
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>>18290537
>dome
>retarded
will yeah
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>>18289444
Old Jump Boots are made well, but the current ones are sketchy. When they went from leather to leather fiber, then some kind of plastic/rubber for the soles, and started using coated leathers (since most of the time they're going to be garrison/parade boots), yeah, their actual wearability suffered.
If you don't have to have a cap toe you can sometimes find 1960's "McNamara" boots on places like Ebay. otherwise look for actual vintage jump boots.
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>>18289444
the only pair of boots that i broke the sole in was a pair of cockerans
would not recommend
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>>18290521
go to a mexicam clobber moron
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>>18289310
completely out of their fucking mind with this collaboration.
Here are your options from the collab:
>Skykomish Boot: Mixed materials (leather + tin cloth) "wet weather" duck-style boot with a side zip - $625
>Lahti Boot: Mixed material (suede/nubuck lower plus wool upper) pull on boot - $455
>London Methow Shoe: Leather/Suede ring style loafer - $375
These people are fucking insane to charge over $300 for shitty imported birkenstock boots and sandals
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>>18290537
lel
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>>18290492
I live in a 3rd world shithole and even we have gyw cobblers here.
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>welcome, what kind of boots would you like
>the kind that looks like dirty concrete please
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>>18290579
Why would I want a moron to resole my boots?

>>18290653
Perhaps people are more likely to repair stuff in 3rd world countries rather than throw stuff away? That doesn't change the fact that I talked to every cobbler in my town and not one does gywt. A couple didn't even know what I was talking about.
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>>18286867
Boys I think I fucked up. I fear my White's need to be a size wider. Order a 10.5D, length is perfect but I'm worried they are too snug on my instep. No way I can get away with thicker socks once winter hits. Should've gotten a 10.5E.
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>>18289696
Redwing is great too
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>>18286892
Why do Redditors keep buying Turdsdays? That's like flushing money down the toilet.
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>>18286951
Steve is great.
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What are some nice chunky black boots? Currently considering Paraboot Bergerac or Imbattable.
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thanks to this general, i was finally convinced to stop being a lazy ass and condition my boots so thank you. welt is still fucked but they look so much nicer and the leather is so much more supple. used huberts shoe grease
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>>18291045
They have hyperconsumer tendencies and are trained to buy "good deals" frequently. Every r*ddit who buys Turdsday ends up with 3 or 4 pairs within a year. They could've very easily bought a single pair of something nice but the idea of spending that much money up front gives them a stroke.
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>>18291045
fool and their gold are soon parted. they're positioned to capture the midwit reddit population
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Do you know similar boots like the Dr. Martens 1460? Similar style but better brand
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>>18291123
Dude, Dr. Martens is already one of the best brands, but I have these 8074 Moc Toe Black Harness from Redwing, you could also get the 8133 SuperSole Moc Toe Black Chrome also from Redwing, I think Redwing, Martens and Whites are the best brands
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>>18291130
Bait used to be believable
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>>18291140
Which part of my post is supposed to be bait
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>>18291130
OP wrote that dr martens are a no go but I like the style (combat boots?).
Maybe some recommendations?

Also what does /fa/ think about Timberlands? Maybe some none mainstream alternatives?
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>>18291154
doc martens has fallen from grace. it's not the 90s any more
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>>18291154
Docs are literally trash. Not even the MiE ones are good anymore. Haven't been for years.
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>>18291061
>huberts
man i can still remember the smell
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>>18291123
I personally like Cheaney and think they will have black boots of a similar style
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>>18291189
where i live it smells like pine tar anyway so its pretty unnoticeable
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>>18291155
>Also what does /fa/ think about Timberlands?
Their leather is cheap and boring. The soles are cemented so not really resoleable but on the flip side water resistance ought to be good I guess. I've heard of some people complaining about the quality like >>18288382.
>Maybe some none mainstream alternatives?
Panama Jack is Timberland's but made in Spain. Same deal except a bit cheaper, haven't heard as much negative about them but then again they're also a less popular brand.
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Astorflex Boot V55

https://vintage55.com/shop/scarpe/stivali/astorflex-boot-v55/
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>>18291329
Nice, but why do european brands like to give boots that fake distressing darkened color on the ptip and the counter? Makes the boots look like mall-tier shit.
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>>18286867
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
Um where?
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>>18291442
woodlore used to hold frequent b1g1 sales which would bring them down to 10-15 per unit
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>>18291404
pre-distressed shit is popular
it's just like raw denim, 99% of people will just buy pre washed, pre-faded jeans rather than break them in themselves.
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>>18291404
predistressed leather jackets are even worse because of how big they are. just looks like big panels of throwup on otherwise nice leather. its tragic
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what is with mexicans and putting uneven asscracks in their boots?
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Bakers got job masters in stock at $100 discount
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>>18291548
why would you have the buttcrack, if you already have an external counter?
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>>18291562
>2 year wait time
I like the Wesco Job Masters that I bought barely used but I can't imagine waiting that long for them.
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can anyone id?
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>>18291726
>crepe shearling
[spoiler]clark's[/spoiler]
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>>18291687
Some sizes are in stock but yeah 2 year wait time is insanity
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>>18291499
>pre-distressed shit is popular
Is it still? I remmember it being all the rage in the 00s. Lately I've only seen people wearing solud colors. I hate prefaded jeans, moreso those snowed-in jeans latinos seem to love.

>>18291513
Predistressed leather jackets are even worse. They always look tacky no matter what.
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got these boots from Redwing, love how they look and all that but this part is really hurting me when I walk, will this go away the more I walk with it?
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UK available boots with a wide toebox? Got some Berwick1707s which are ok but a bit narrow for my liking. Don't need to be that dressy - a service boot or Coniston equivalent is ideal
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>>18291824
It often does but take it slow. You don't want a hole in the back of your ankle. Do you have gait issues?
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>>18291404
It's not fake distressing color you actual retard, the boots are made of perfect genuine leather in a small artisan workshop. That's the actual color of the leather.
Out of curiosity, what's a pair of boots that has a "real" solid color in your opinion, so that I can compare them to the Astorflex?
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>>18291849
No gait issues, it's just very tight like it almost feels like a rope around your foot, no matter how I walk, never had a problem, they're only 2 days old only walked like twice with them
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>>18291849
>>18291853
Shit-tier shoes usually do that. Always found Docs caused this pain. I was once bleeding through my pants because of a pair of black Docs boots. Buy something better. Top-tier leather is a little bit softer and adapts to the shape of your foot.
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>>18291863
>I was once bleeding through my pants because of a pair of black Docs boots
there's a joke here
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>>18287587
what are those?!
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>>18291873
Through my trousers, yes. There's no second meaning.
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>>18291824
Yes. You might want to take it easy for the first couple of weeks until they're broken in. Wear them for short periods at a time.
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>>18291919
>There's no second meaning.
yes but there's an easy joke because of the stereotype of docs being women's boots
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>>18291850
>genuine leather
Anon, I...

>what's a pair of boots that has a "real" solid color
Whites
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>>18291824
lace your boots tighter
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>advertise a fully gussetted tongue
>leave holes in it anyways
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>>18292053
>is this normal?
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>>18292036
Genuine leather encompasses everything, it doesn't automatically mean ground up shavings mixed with glue.
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>>18292055
it does
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>>18292055
>>18292056
https://www.sandmarc.com/blogs/articles/grades-of-leather-full-grain-vs-top-grain-vs-genuine
this article seems to sort everything out pretty clearly. is it full of shit?
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>>18291863
I've had Sketchers and Danskos eat holes in my leg
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>>18292078
genuine leather is a grade of low quality leather that's the start and finish of it
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>>18292044
They are very tight, in the picture I was just about to take my boots off and took a picture
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guys ridgeway feels kinda dicey on wet tile...
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how do yall drive manual with these big ass boots? I can't feel the fuckin clutch
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>>18292240
I don't. If I drive I bring two pairs and swap when I'm done driving.
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>>18292078
>is it full of shit?
At a glance, yes. Genuine leather just literally means "made of leather", that's all there is to it. Every item ever made of leather is genuine leather, regardless of the quality. The association between the term "genuine leather" and poor quality is that stuff made of better leather will use a qualifier that has stricter requirements, theoretically nobody would say their full grain leather product is made of genuine leather when they could say it's made of full grain leather instead, even though either term would be correct. It's like how ice cream has certain requirements to be called ice cream and those products that do not meet the requirements call themselves "frozen dairy desserts", actual ice cream also fits the definition of frozen dairy dessert but you wouldn't market it as that when you could market it as ice cream instead if you meet the legal requirements.
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>>18292240
I've never had an issue.
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I’m customising a Frank’s Front Range on their website. Can I ask them to only make it a single row stitchdown or are they like Nick’s where they only do double row stitchdown?
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I bought a pair of insoles from niggs 4 weeks ago and they haven't even started on them yet. What the fuck?
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>>18292081
So? Sketchers are considered good?
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>>18292053
cutting corners, literally
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>>18292054
>>18292312
holy fuck it's INTENTIONAL TO PUT FUCKING HOLES IN YOUR FULLY GUSSETTED TONGUES
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>>18292283
asking wouldn't hurt, but the anwser will most likely be no
never seen a single row franks

get the handwelt though
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>>18292036
You just confirmed you are a fucking retard because you completely ignored the other adjective I used, perfect. As the othet anon said, genuine leather encompasses everything. That was the adjective you had to ignore. Instead you focused on it and ignored the other.
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>>18292036
>White’s Semi Dress
Holy kek, is this a joke? Thry’re nice, but they also definitely have what you call fake pre-distressed color. (It’s just the normal shade of leather, but whatever you say, dude).
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>>18292328
>but they also definitely have what you call fake pre-distressed color
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>>18292315
What a bunch of bullshit. How can anyone say such bald-faced lies and look themselves in the mirror.
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>>18292321
You're just grasping at straws now, man. Whatever helps you cope, I guess.
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>heel so low you're falling backwards constantly
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>>18292240
skill issue
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>>18292315
>we think this design reflects best practices

holy shit
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>>18292320
Yeah, I was thinking the same: I don’t think I’ve ever seen a single row stitch Frank’s. I’ll ask but if they say no I’m going with a single row White’s Bounty Hunter cause I’m a manlet with small feet and would like to minimise the shelf space
>>18292306
Are those the Delta arch insoles? Apparently an external party manufactures those and Nicks receives a batch and then ships a bunch of orders all around the same time
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>>18292344
>little leather wedge as heel stack
>top lift unnailed
there is no way that a hard rubber vibram lugged heel is holding just with glue, that shit is comming off fast
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>>18292315
i guess thursday thinks their customers are that gullible
it would just take one of them to check out a pair of red wings and see that there are no "comfort holes" and those boots are only half-gusseted
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more pictures of best practices
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How often do you guys resole? I just learned people resole even after just one or two years, even with the best brands, what the heck...
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>>18292240
I like my romeos with the big synthetic welt because it makes my foot massive enough to hit both the clutch and the gas at the same time and pretend I'm a real race car driver by badly downshifting to first with an almighty VROOM every time I pull into my subdivision
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>>18292367
they are famous for delamination
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>>18292315
>consistent with what other higher quality brands do
fuck you, my JKs are fully gusseted and they're the most comfortable pieces of footwear I own.
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>>18292409
only as often as you need. It's not just something you do once you hit a certain amount of steps.
>>18292344
who is this from? looks like decent construction but they couldn't be bothered with hammering a few nails in.
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>>18292479
new turdsday line
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>>18292484
SURELY they put a few nails in the cordovan version RIGHT?
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>>18292489
oh no no no no
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>>18292243
this is probably correct choice for me

>>18292355
most likely, I've only been driving manual for a little over a year and always wear something thin soled.
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>>18292489
>Holes in the gussetted tongue are intentional
This company is a joke
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>>18292489
No one tell him
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>>18286867
Why do most boots now look like picrel?
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>>18292507
c*lastic toe caps
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>>18292344
companies keep doing that bullshit with the heel and it makes the boot link so bad
either do a proper logger heel or don't but doubt randomly shave a chunk out of the middle
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>>18287587
Bro is a professional keyblade swinger
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>>18292668
>>18292668
>>18292668

NEW

>>18292668
>>18292668
>>18292668
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>>18288382
back to this Timberland question. I guess I've ran out of options for the fucking squeaking. I'm thinking of doing something retarded like somehow applying heat to the squeaky sole with boiling water or just throwing shit against the wall since I might as well break them if I cant wear them. Is there some random combination that could reduce the squeaking or is the design of these boots so retarded that they can become such that the default state is squeaking. It's seriously driving me insane. I don't know if I should just ignore it and sound like a clown when walking. Buying another pair of different boots sounds kinda wasteful, but at the same time wearing these is just too awkward.



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