/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - FLAT BOX IS BACK EDITIONWhat do I need to care for my boots?>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)>Horsehair brush ($10-15)>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest themHow do I deal with x stain?>mud: allow it to dry then brush off>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're goodno. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.>Are Thursdays any good?no.Manufacturer Red Flags>Luxury>Bespoke>Sustainable>Vegan>Unknown leather source>Made in Chyna/Mexico/IndonesiaBoot Red Flags>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)>C*rk/C*lastic>Zippers>Non gusseted tongues>Excessive/unnecessary seams>Combination/mixed material heelsBoot Brands NO>Turdsdays>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters>any Whatsapp makers in the far eastPREV>>18304926
>flatbox>still a bigger toe bump than most of my boots despite being unstructuredhow did they manage that
>>18310804I find those too proletarian looking anon.
>>18310812same last as the other boots but without the c*lastic structure so it'll collapse in time
unstructured looks like shit on grain out leathers
Boondockersfag from a few threads back.I got a pair from amazon for 119. It's definitely better that everything else I've seen around that price point. The construction seems sturdy enough but the waxy finish on the leather is a bit too matte for my taste. I don't think they can be polished but I look forward to the creases near the toe box. I got half a size down from my usual size and they fit snug and comfortably. I'd rather have a full leather interior instead of the cheap fabric half liner. I took the insole out and placed a leather and cork insole. They're built using the munson last so it's expected they feel like I'm wearing combat boots. Going back to clarks again feels like I'm wearing sneakers. Would recommend if you're a poorfag saving up for iron rangers like me
>>18310906you keep using that word
>>18310906119 is like half the cost of an iron ranger on sale
>>18310906why don't you post a pic of them?
What are the best boots for eurofags if you don't like sleek boots and don't want to pay 1k?
>>18310967White's Semi Dress
Stop buying clown boots. Your feet are not that big.
>>18310955They're 400 eurodollars in my cunt and only a handful of retailers have them so they never go on sale. >>18310958Left them at the cobbler's to replace the top three eyelets with speed hooks. I'll post some pics when I get them tomorrow
>>18310984so you bought cheap boots, and now you're paying a cobbler $75+ to get speedhooks installed?
>>18310987More like 5 eurodollars.
>>18310984>They're 400 eurodollars in my cunt and only a handful of retailers have them so they never go on sale.There's a ton of retailers in the EU that sell them, and more that a handful will run some good sales. Mr Porter does something like 40% off if you go over a certain amount every now and then.
>>18310991x to doubt
>>18311002Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for EU retailers in general >>18311003A goodyear welt resole also cost around 40 eurodollars
who looks at these and says>wow yes that's what i want
>>18310828I have unstructured on my whites
>>18310824Color 8 shell is my favorite.These are starting to look beat, it's probably time to get them back in shape.
>>18310804anything of similar quality/style (maybe leaning a bit more towards dress boot) that ships to europe?
Leaf here. I'm in the market for some chelsea meme boots.Pic related: Thursday Legend (Bourbon)What's a better equivalent of this style?
>>18311245I have my eye on something which is actually made in Canada, the brand is Canada West. Pic related. Price is pretty much the same.
>>18311245>>18311247However, I'm still on the edge because I'm not sure how the soles will fare. Should I be looking at something more rugged, like pic related? They're both Vibram.
>>18311182great look boots anon
>>18311249These look the best out of the 3 you posted
>>18311067they look like dried dog turds lmao
Name three brands of boots that are objectively better than Red Wing.
>>18311379grant stonegrant stone grant stone
>>18311379theres countless, a better question would be at the same price point.
>>18311420You're right. Let's say they have to be made in USA and in the range 300-650 dollars/euro.Also (and I know it's a controversial opinion here) higher price does not always imply higher quality.
>>18311421Whites during Black Friday sale
picked up a lesser used set of boots today to find a chalky green substance on the welt. i imagine it's mold because its been rainy and it's a beater pairwiped it off and brushed the welt and there's no more but is there anything else I should do?
>>18311469wipe it down with white wine vinegar or rubbing alcoholleave it out in the sun, if possible, for a couple of daysseal the welt edges with some beeswax to prevent it from happening again
>>18311369What's with the herpes?
>>18311547it's a keychain. they're itty bitty boots
>>18311595Yes but why did they give the itty bitty boots herpes and only on the right
I just come to these threads to remind me to wear Docs and get vagina and not obsess over boots and get penis in my poo hole
>>18311379Assuming you’re just looking for service boots:>Grant Stone>Whites>Franks
take the redback pill bro
>>18311651>glued shit
>>18311547its just a keychain accessory
>>18311623What about Nicks?
>>18311707no
>>18311715Why
>>18311717Nigs is notorious for shitty QC and having a large, undeserved hubris (they're fucking assholes and give shitty customer service). Its better to just go with the company that they stole all their designs from (Whites)
$320 grant stones for black friday again this year
does White's Perry Select moc have a celastic toe?
>>18311379Define what you mean by "better."Their work boots are decent, but limited in options. The heritage line are pretty mid-tier (and supposedly have been having some QC issues). That said, I guess the only thing they're really remarkable at is having both types of the brand as well as having so many locations.
>>18310958Here's a pic on foot, they're bulky but snug. Miles ahead of cock martens but I believe that's not saying much. They're also better but not unlike the actual combat boots I've had.>>18311003See picrel
>>18311652then show me a shoe that has been made without a single drip of glue, except for mokassins there are none that come to mind.ever since mankind discovered treesap and collagen there has been glue in our everyday items, glue doesnt mean its bad quality.i have been wearing redbacks for the better part of the year now and they never let me down, they even come in a steeltipped option and are acid and oil proof.>no laces>multipurpose soles that wont ever slip on any surface>easy to clean>affordable>used by australian rangers>perfect fittell me what you could possibly want more from a pair of boots that are <200$
What in the actual fuck is a celastic toe?
>>18312028>my boots haven‘t fallen apart within one yearYour expectations speak for themselves
>>18312047A piece of plastic used to give structure to the toe.
>>18312051so the only argument you got is that the concept of time (something that nobody can ever hope to control or even fully understand) has not advanced enough already? or is it that i am a faggot who should have bought the boots 3 years ago to then go on /fa/ and tell a nigger like you about my boots holding up for that long?imagine the following:>you buy a new car>someone else comes around and tells you that your new car is shit because it hasnt proven its reliability on the road in the past 3 years>??>pic related, as it is the way you would look at tards who act like thislike what is your argument here? these are fine boots and will hold up for another 2-3 years of daily use and abuse.but i guess you will find something to nag about again. people on this website cant be happy or content about anything, you will always complain and then complain again on r9k how your life is sad and you cant find any joy
>>18312066If plastic is not used, then what's used?
>>18312077leather or nothing at all and the toes go flaccid
>>18312117If the shoe is made of leather, I can't comprehend why the shoe-maker wouldn't reinforce the toe with more leather. Is this the absolute state of American shoe-makers?
>>18312140Because celastic is thinner, easier to work with, cheaper and has no real draw backs when used to structure the toe specifically.
>>18312144Do Whites use celastic?
>>18312146Looks like a cap toe with actual 2 layers of thick upper leather, but the white layer between the lining and the upper leather looks like celastic anyway? So most likely yes.
>>18312155Great effort-reply, thank you anon.
>>18312077celastic
>>18312165Stop being a moron
>>18312169>clowns making play on words>complains when clowned backaverage redditor
>>18312173Based retard
Can a cobbler fix these eyelets?
>>18312182probably? they could repunch it and use larger eyeletsyou'd have to talk to your cobbler to be sure
>>18312182Holy kek
what fits would go well with a dark/raving green pair of boots?
>>18312028i'm not saying glue is bad i'm saying boots with only glue holding on the sole is bad
>>18312146yes but you can request celastic less toe
whats your favorite pair of winter boots for snow?
>>18312194Yeah. I fell for Beckett Simonon. Those pulled forward on the third wear. Never again for boots, but I am considering other products. The lasts fit me well.
>>18312182lolno the leather the eyelet is is shot
Thoughts on Carmina? I need new black, plain Oxfords for my dress blues uniform, and I'm looking at Carmina as a top pick.Also, wholecut vs standard, which would y'all recommend?I'm currently looking at the Cordovan wholecuts rn. Is Cordovan worth it, or should I save $200 and go with normal leather.
>>18312437Forgot pic
>>18312437>Is Cordovan worth itnot for oxfords. Look at TLB Mallorca, very similar but cheaper than Carmina. If you can wait a few months and willing to go MTO. Antonio Meccariello at the price point of those Cordovan Oxfords (or cheaper) is a no brainer.
did a little forest walking first frost of the seasonboots impregnated with beeswaxcomfy af
>>18312496>>18312498One day i'll buy a pair from him
>>18312496>>Is Cordovan worth it>not for oxfords.Why not? I've never bought Cordovan before, so I don't have much experience with it beyond thinking it looks nice cool and what I've heard online.
>>18312213>asscrack
>>18312437>>18312438>Also, wholecut vs standard, which would y'all recommend?Wholecut oxfords are the dressiest shoes there are, dunno about uniform dress codes but you're probably not gonna get much use out of them besides that, pretty hard to dress down a black oxford as it is.
>>18312437carmina is oki don't know the regulations, but i think when they say plain black oxford for dress blues uniform they actually mean a plain toe blucher like an alden 9901 or carmina 531, which is a type of derby shoe and not oxfordit all depends how much you expect to wear these shoes and if you really want to go all out for themi wouldn't get these wholecuts and i wouldn't get cordovan if they actually expect you to wax themthe shine of cordovan mostly comes from the leather itself through brushing and burnishing, not from a wax polish layer on topbrand new cordovan doesn't even allow for a wax layer build up, because it's so greasy any wax will slide around on it when you try to buff itthe high solvent content in wax polish will ruin the color of cordovan anyway over time and because it's so dense any pigmented creams won't recolor sufficiently, the pigment doesn't penetrate deep enoughthat's how people end up with permanently lighter toes and heels on their shoesblack cordovan isn't truly black anyway and in very direct sunlight you can see that's it's really intense green, which becomes noticable when you wear it with black pants, so not that formal
>>18312516You'd be surprised. I am not actually worried about chances to wear whatever I get. I'm looking at value, quality, price, and material specifics, but how much I'll wear something is not an issue here.
>>18312518>i don't know the regulations, but i think when they say plain black oxford for dress blues uniform they actually mean a plain toe blucherYes and no. The issued shitty plastic shoes were wear are plain toe bluchers, but the Regulations allow us to wear basically any black dress shoe as long as it doesn't have ornamentation (like broguing) and it's material is either leather or faux leather. Even dress boots are allowed.Which is actually why I'm here. For the past year, I wore a Balmoral leather/suede button boot, and it was technically allowed since suede is a type of leather and it was all black, but our commander told me it was slightly unbecoming of an officer to be rules-lawyering the regulations this hard just to sate my autism and these were clearly on the outside edge of acceptable. So I'm buying something more traditional, but I still want a real oxford not a derby.>it all depends how much you expect to wear these shoes and if you really want to go all out for themI wear dress shoes at minimum once a week in civilian wear and once a month in uniform. If I get a tour at the pentagon, which eventually is inevitable, I'll be wearing them every day for 4 years.>i wouldn't get these wholecuts and i wouldn't get cordovan if they actually expect you to wax themthe shine of cordovan mostly comes from the leather itself through brushing and burnishing, not from a wax polish layer on topbrand new cordovan doesn't even allow for a wax layer build up, because it's so greasy any wax will slide around on it when you try to buff itIf the shoes shine naturally it's not necessary. A lot of people wear patent leather and obviously we don't shine those. The important part is that they look shined and professional, they don't care whether I use wax, or a brush, or whatever method the material calls for.>pic related, the boots I wore until last werk
>>18312518>black cordovan isn't truly black anyway and in very direct sunlight you can see that's it's really intense green, which becomes noticable when you wear it with black pants, so not that formalThis is actually a concern. It does need to be black, and if it looks like a different color very obviously that could be an issue, but if it's subtle then it's fine.Our pants are also dark blue, not black, so that helps a bit.>the regs i was skirting if anyone is interested
>>18312438Also looking at these for a normal leather, non wholecut option that saves $300
>>18312548the rain and simpson lasts are soft square and they want roundalso they are more elongated than typical american stylesthe cordovan is a really cool leather, but in black i think it's kind of a waste>>18312552if they'll allow it, then these look nice
>>18312589For the sake of what they're looking for, that counts as round. And the elongation won't matter either, I like that look more than the clunkier American styles.
What do we think about Moma?
>>18312655trash
lol
>>18312655Don't listen to that subhuman scum. Moma is Stitchdown handmade in a small factory. They're top-quality. Also a very independent producer, unlike Red Wing and other hyped brands.
>stitchdown>but soles are glued on >top qualitylol, lmao even
>>18312670Why are you retarded, pajeet? No education as human rights require?
>>18312671anon that's not the model he posted. polacco uomo doesn't have the stitched sole at all
>>18312673That's one model. Red Wing also has that, but you're all constantly sucking their dicks.Here, spoonfed like a retard:https://moma.it/products/1035487-1067677-polacco-uomo-bristol-marronehttps://moma.it/products/1034091-1063656-polacco-uomo-bristol-nerohttps://moma.it/collections/calzature-uomo-aw25/products/1035337-1067234-tronchetto-uomo-work-marronehttps://moma.it/collections/calzature-uomo-aw25/products/1035337-1068342-tronchetto-uomo-work-nerohttps://moma.it/collections/calzature-uomo-aw25/products/1034362-1064568-polacco-uomo-rick-nerohttps://moma.it/collections/calzature-uomo-aw25/products/1034234-1064072-polacco-uomo-male-nerohttps://moma.it/collections/calzature-uomo-aw25/products/1024145-1000836-tronchetto-uomo-male-neroThrere's even a video right on their homepage showing their factory and how they work.
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>>18312684Do you own a pair? Please post them
>>18312667did someone in red wings fuck your gf
>>18312499I always liked those boots, they were everything I wanted in a casual boot. Shame they don't ship here and I'm fairly certain they don't do wide sizing.
>>18312249For what it’s worth, I had a pair of dirt-cheap (~$170) Tommy Hilfiger boots with cemented soles that last me 3+ years of daily wear from early fall to late spring. It wasn’t the outsole that gave up the ghost, rather the leather insole and the textile lining. As I said, daily wear, no rotation, with proper care it would still be fine, probably.
>>18312684Isn’t stichdown notoriously hard to resole? I’m liking some of the Moma models, but I’m a bit wary about it.I also find it concerning how there is almost no info about the boots on their site (other than “this i a boot in antique effect leather” and some pictures). No info about the lining, no size guide, nothing. Oh, and it constantly switches back to Italian, even after being set to English.
>>18312845At that price point if the sole wears out you're throwing them in the garbage and buying new ones, this is for those who want the artificially aged look but can't afford Guidi.
>>18312845Any decent cobbler in Europe can resole a shoe with a stitchdown construction. Astorflex also uses it and you can send them your boots to get them resoled with their machines.If you're worried about that I would advise writing an email to Moma. A lot of brands in Italy primarily work with retailers, there are shops everywhere, so that's why the websites are sometimes a bit overlooked or concise.>>18312879Retarded advice. If you love your shoes you will resole them even if they didn't cost you 800 euros. They also have boots that are not artificially aged.
>>18312879They cost about the same as Red Wings, you fucking retard.
>>18312896>>18312903Stitchdown costs more to resole which makes the value proposition of resoling vs buying worse, at entry level prices it's not worth it, like imagine paying 150 bucks to resole a 200 bucks pair of Astorflex, that's just dumb.https://nushoe.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-get-boots-resoled/>but I am emotionally attached to these boots!That's not a rational argument.
>>18312845not hard to resole, its probably the easiest and cheapest method to resole. But doing it properly, not punching new holes into the flared out upper turning it into swiss cheese, is what most cobblers wouldn't do. And the ones that handstitch it are very expensive.
>not just resoling your boots on your own>https://youtu.be/8izQrLje5ow?si=r_zU7JzrPDx2_FPs
>>18312949
>>18312787before i bought them i was hesitant cuz sizingmanaged to snatch a pair and they fit really good.leather was a bit hard at first but it got softer over time and wear.but leather is also nice thick and durable, scratch resistant even cuz any scratches just go away if you brush it off with a brush.hands down top tier stuff for the price tag and absolutely 0 pretensions bs Is a boot, you wear them and go do manly stuff in them no fucks given
Anyone know what these boots might be?
>>18312928How about a 370 bucks Moma?
Don't be a clown and wear sneakers
>>18312499>>18312787They look super nice, what brand are they?
>>18312928There's absolutely no way a resoling from Astorflex can cost 150 euros. Especially if you don't need to ship the shoes from another continent. They're not stupid, your argument is also in their minds. It's gonna be around 70 bucks. 40 from a local cobbler.
>>18312971Russell Moccasin. They stopped making that exact model a few years ago, though you can pretty certainly special order it from them - probably 90% of their business is special order. Those boots are basically a Back Country without the army studs in the top 3 eyelets, and with the padded collar from the Professional Hunter. It's impossible to tell for sure from that photo but I'd bet the leather is their Walnut Timberjack, back in that era that was the main non-exotic leather they used.
new ballsack boots, now available in piss color.Also can people please not put a perforated cap toe on these clown lasts.
>>18313045holy shit those are smol
>>18313045gonna look heckin sweeterino once the PATINA kicks in!
>>18313084size 5 kek
>>18312989some portugese bootmaker called Urban Shepherd Only difference on mine is they got darker with age coz of beeswax, originaly the color was a bit more lighter
I've learned /fa/ was right the hard way.Over the last few months, I ordered and returned several pairs of boots for around $200 that /fa/ wouldn't touch with a seven-foot pole. Like Polo Ralph Lauren own brand ones', for example. On pictures, they looked like decent knock offs of classic models. IRL, they looked like childrens' boots, the ones mothers buy for their rapidly growing children to throw away in a few months.There's something about leather that lets you pinpoint exactly how much it cost. There is no cheap expensive looking leather, ever.
>>18313097hell yeah thank you
>>18313044Thanks, really informative.
>>18313045go see a doctor if your piss is brown
>>18313044>>18313172russell moccasin got new owners and they ended the special order service. No custom fit, no fuck huge list of options and materials, just a few basic bitch models with a few basic bitch sole/leather options for a hugely jacked up price. Basically the worst parts of the bible.
>>18311652redbacks are disposable work boots people wear on the farm or when romping about in the backyardglued shit is fine
>>18312975Those are tactical boots tho
>>18313259>disposable shit is fine
>>18313271If it's used on a worksite or on a farm it's fine. Only latte sipping city faggots go and buy the over built whites or whatever for their weekly toddle down the mainstreet.
>>18313289what boots do unemployed people wear?the anwser is none, am i right?
>>18311247>made in Canada, the brand is Canada WestDon't be duped. Their boots are made in China and "assembled" in Canada.
>>18313315proofs?
>>18313316Not spoon-feeding normies. Do your research.
no proofs, got it
>>18313325glad that you're not even pretending to contribute anything besides worthless bait all day
>>18312499>>18312954I also got these boots, they have been pretty solid for 215 bucks that it cost me. With 1year of wear right now. They get darker with wear and the leather care products since the leather is undyed gives, it a interesting look.
>>18313397>>18312499>>18312954Forgot pics
>like the boot style >’ate the colorWhat do?
>>18313421dye it, i reckon this color would take a brown or just black to be safe.
>>18313143>There's something about leather that lets you pinpoint exactly how much it cost. There is no cheap expensive looking leather, ever.all the modern tanneries today that want to sell to big fashion houses are competing who can get the most yield out of a hide and make the cheapest leather possible while still being able to pass audits and be certified by LWG or something elsethe big phrase going around is "sustainability", which just means using as much industry byproduct as possible for tanning and using as little water as possiblequality doesn't matter, what matters is that it can be easily worked and manipulated by machines and that it's super consistentnever trust mystery meat leathers
>>18313403do you have a pic when new?
>>18313461No sadly. But here is one from their website, it's not the same model but they all use the same leather.
>>18313469thanks, a good looking pair of boots nonetheless.
>>18313403boot bro nice >>18313461this is how mine looked when received compared to >>18312499 you can see the difference in 18 months
>>18313361Last year I got 30% on or around Black Friday.
Can anyone recommend a place to get a good horsetail polishing brush? Shoji Works makes one but every place that has them in stock are all $50+
>>18313512A generic one you buy from a cobbler is fine
>>18312975keep your niggerwear
>>18313224>ended the special order serviceNo they didn't. They used to have exactly one model that was available ready-to-wear: the Oneida moccasin. Everything else was a custom build, you had to call them up and tell them what you wanted and they'd figure out the price and put you in their queue. I bought several of their boots through their custom build system of that era (they came to Houston every year for the Safari Club show). What the new owners did was jack up the price of the custom build service to cover what it was actually costing, expanded the ready-to-wear offerings, and add a new build level (premier build) in between the ready-to-wear and custom build tiers.
>>18312499>>18312954>>18313097>>18313397>>18313403>>18313469>>18313473How's the sizng on those?
>>18313512German unbranded "100% Roshaar" brushvirtually everyone sells these with their own logo slapped on Kirby Allison, Potter and Sons, Burgol, Collonil, usually for twice the pricethere is no difference between cheap na dexpensive, it's the same bristles, but some claim the expensive don't lose hair as fast
>>18313587when i ordered i was expecting fully for sizing to be a hit or miss.when i wore them first time they were hard at first but after a few short walks started to mold to my feet. their website says how to measure your hoofs and then add 7-10mm depending if you want a tighter or looser fit. i thought about this and concluded that if my foot was X long and going by their minimum recommended 7mm up in size it would give me realistically only about 3.5mm in front of the toe and 3.5 mm back in the heel. this sounded to tight with high margin of error and high probability of too tight fit. If i add their max recommendation of +10mm you end up in the +2 size from your real foot size. but it leaves you enough room to be tight or loose depending on how tight you lace them. hope it helps anon
>>18313595No 48. Curse these skis.
Thoughts on wearing boots in the summer?
>>18313613well i do it
>check out random rose anvil video>out of nowhere just starts talking about getting pushback for his Alden videos>says even retailers were emailing him giving him shit for it>"haha those were just my opinions, guys, we can all disagree, it's super cool to be learn new things from my peers and have them dissect your videos, so fun"he is still so butthurt about it even years later
>>18313476Why all the hype around these? White’s had much better looking boots. Cruiser, Cutter, Sherman, MP, and even Hiker look better. Help me like the Semi Dress.
>>18313633ropertard on suicide watch rn
>>18313644good flexible boot that looks good, simple plain timeless
>>18313633the roughout shaft actually kind of fits with the look of these, never would have assumed that
>>18313651Totally get that. I think the other models check those same boxes and are better looking. Is it the shorter height?
>>18313644I bought cruiser and semi dress at the same time. I like my semi dress better. It’s a more comfortable boot and is more versatile. Especially without the loop in back and the dress brown leather.
>>18313657for me the shorter height just means i wear them more in the summer than my bounty hunters not really a make or break factor
>>18313633We are so back Whitesbros
>>18313689I don’t regret buying my two pairs.
>>18313578You are so full of shit. They used to do a custom last service, on all sorts of different models, all of which you could fully customize more than basically anyone else. None of that is available now.
>>18313701You are so full of shit. They still do it, they just charge $1250 for it now. Sorry you're poor, but really you did this to yourself.
>>18313644You buy the Semi Dress because you can't afford a plain toe 2030.
All this effort to make semi bespoke shoes and he just makes a shitty cork insole and uses a one piece rubber sole.What a wastehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_0YPr7q2XPY
>>18313758For the adventurous executive who demands the versatility to go right from the trail to the boardroom.
>>18313595> If i add their max recommendation of +10mm you end up in the +2 size from your real foot sizeThat’s strange, my feet are 26 cm, and I usually wear 42.5 in sneakers, 42 in most boots, 41.5 in Red Wings. According to this chart, I need a 41 in Urban Sheperds. How did you end up +2 size from your real size?
>>18313742i'd pick my White's and Wesco over the Vibergs any day
>>18313788It just seemed the right thing to do and the size is just right i guess. at least for me Try asking the other boot anon that has them how he picked his sizing...
>>18310804I fear I should've went up one in width. How fucked am I bros?
>>18313633Wow those are actually really cool.
How the fuck am I supposed to understand which is the right for me?
>>18314104Send them your measurements and talk to someone on the phone
>>183141044811 55 and MP are the most common and popular last
>>18314104call kyle at bakers after you send in your measurements
>>18314098its hard to tell from an insole pic unless you're literally 1 size too small. Does it feel tight? Can you move your toes around? Wear thinner socks. Depending on the leather your cobbler might be able to stretch the spots you need, i recently had a shoe that was just a little tight stretched and its perfect now.
>>18314112Right foot feels great. Left foot feels more snug with the pinky toe feeling a bit cramped. I got a D and I'm starting to think a E would've been the right call. Might be paranoia as it's my first pair of PNW boots. Might feel better after more break-in.
>>18314105>>18314107Are you serious?
>>18314132Yes. Baker's and White's both have people on payroll who's only job is to talk to potential buyers to figure out what size, width, and last would be the best possible fit for the type of boots you want.
>>18313758>we have Fluevogs at home
>>18314155>+5 protection vs. good extra feat: alacrity
my boots get quite squeaky around the ball of the foot after I wear them a few days in a row. When I let them rest for a few days they dont make any noise. what gives?
you reckon its cheap materials or poor construction? i know when it gets cold the leather gets stiff like everything else, and the converse w/ hot temp. like everything else but idk about squeaking
I want to get a boot just like this in Europe, if I order these from Whites I'll have to pay like 150-200 dollars shipping costs on top, Red Wing and Jim Green have stores in EU but they don't sell 10 inch ones, I was looking to get the Jim Green AR08 8-inch but it's sold out
>>18314178Like this boot from Red Wing is exactly what I want but it's sold out for so long now, IDK if it'll ever return
>>18314178good thing black friday sales are on at Baker's
>>18314164Leather shoe 101, you don't wear them multiple days in a row.
>>18314178>>18314181Oh well fuck it I got the whites 10 inch boots, they will probably last me a lifetime since I don't walk on bad terrain and I have other boots I'll wear too, what do you guys do about resoling? Just use a local shop? I also have some basic cleaning gear at home for leather boots but I should probably look into that better too
>>18310804I really don't need them but goddamn do I really want some roughout boots. I might impulse buy these.
>>18314326My next pair is going to be rough out really like the way they look.
>>18314340I have these but I don’t like that leather. Looks used up
Didn't Baker's used to have a 3D custom boot configurator?
>>18314352memoryholed
>>18313794What a coincidence, I'd pick my Viberg and Wesco over the White's every day.
>>18314392>that filesize>that resolutionsure
>>18314397Of all the things to complain about you pick compression and cropping.Sure.
>>18314402you're nowhere near the file limit, why the compression and cropping?
>>18314409Crappy photos of my boots don't need to be large in either size or resolution. It's just old habit for me to cut images down to size.
>>18314418let's see more of the wesco and the messy stitchdown
>>18314433I've posted them up before, you can have that photo.
>>18314392Just ordered some vibergs and hate myself a little because shoes never fit me, any experience with their return policies?
>>18314442Viberg are easy to deal with if you have a sizing issue. As long as it's not a preorder you can usually exchange no problem as long as the boots are unworn. I actually had to exchange the CXL pair in the photo, the first pair I got was a little too small. Went up half a size and those were perfect. There was no additional shipping charge for the exchange too which was nice considering how much Viberg already charge.
>>18314392Viberg's Hendrik and Mr Lou are unmatched. I'd take them over White's MPs and Nomads. For everything else I prefer White's. The Cruiser/Bounty Hunter is the best looking boot ever made imo.
>>18314326Get the regular distressed roughout cutters or cruisers without the cap toe. Love my roughout cutters
i should have bought hose black roughout whites from huckberry
Quick question peeps, is this real leather? Should i get them "fixed"?What the fuck do i do with them?A cousin gave them to me for 5$ and i liked them enough under the pretense of them being leather but I'm doubting.what should i expect?
>>18314516>A cousin gave them to me for 5$ok but bonded leather is fine at that price just wear em
>>18314446Did you get TTS in UK size or go half size up? I’m a 9.5D in most boots and went with a 9 in viberg. I think it’s the right size but sometimes the 2030 feels a little tight.
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Talk me out of them or into them I like the look but I am not really sure I can pull off green boots.
>>18314392i wish viberg would fit me
>>18314620just grab them in a tan or similar instead
>>18314636I already have enough brown and tan shoes, the alternative leather would probably be this.
I just got my first boots, a pair of red wing moc toes. Putting them on and off is a pain because of the gussetted tongue, the inside has two pieces of overlapping leather and the edge presses against the side of my foot, the laces are stiff and plasticky, the edge of the shaft digs against my leg... boots suck.
>>18310804Toe cap or no toe cap?
>>18310804are there any good boots with a zipper so you don't need to tie laces every time?
>>18312499What are good daily socks if you wear boots and good hiking socks? do you always roll them down like that?
>>18314734Hmm i use normal cotton socks ~90-100% cotton or if its chilly then thicker cotton socks or if really cold then wool socks, as musch wool% as you can find. 100% best. Try find whats available in your country but if thta fails then look online for good socks and try getting bargain prices... Black friday is upon us so there's bound to be some fair price options out there...As for picture, socks are kind of rolled up cuz i wore underpants that day and i tucked them in socks above the boot line
>>18314539For the 2030 I usually go down a full size from Brannock, though the CXLs I only went down a half size.>>18314716Whichever you like better.>>18314732No, zippers will always fail, they're the weakest part of any boot that uses them. They might last a month, they might last a year, but they will always give out at some point. There's a reason no respected brand makes boots with zippers.
Recommend me a boot with this EXACT aesthetic under $300 that isn’t a ThursdayPro tip: you can’t
>>18314820https://meermin.com/collections/mens-boots/products/514386-rust-waxy-commander-e
>>18313788My feet are 25.5cm and I wear 41 in sneakers.If I followed their guide I should have gotten a size 40, but I got a 41 and it was a bit roomy but still alright. I think they want you to have a snug fit with their boots.In case you don't know these come with an insole so you can always take it out a put a smaller one I guess.
>>18314832>and I wear 41 in sneakerslondon
>>18314823Close, but not suede
>>18314864>waxy commander isn't suede
>>18314820>this EXACT aestheticwait until you realize that this isnt good
>>18314864based retard it is suede
>>18314820Ya know what. Go ahead, buy the Turdsdays and make sure to link us your r*ddit thread bemoaning their rapid degradation so we can laugh at you. You stupid cheap cunt.
>>18314820they have a coupon for 20 pounds off, so close enough
>>18314895Yeah, there's only so much you can do to try and save retards from themselves. Past a certain point, just let them crash and burn.
>>18314880I don't get it
>>18314916i know.
>>18314916>man with no taste asking to purchasing turdsdays
>>18314880>boots that cost twice to four times look betterWowzerd
>>18314917>>18314920Not really a boot guy, nor looking to buy anything from Thursday, just genuinely curious what makes the top one uglier than the rest. Is the shaft that's straighter/bigger than the others?
>>18314926>Is the shaft that's straighter/bigger than the others?yeah that's it. Nobody in this thread will ever just articulate that
>>18314926It’s the lower price tag and the fact it’s popular
>>18314880>none available in poorropejust kill me
>>18315011>none with a local distributor in EuropeFixed that for you.
>>18314926they're low quality boots in every aspect>shit mystery mutt meat leather with a spray painted finish to give it "depth" and "patina" when the paint chips>dogshit potato lasts>low quality rubber compounds that chip and crack
>>18315011White's can be found in plenty of EU retailers.
>>18315057Name one (1).
>>18315099https://www.burgundschild.com/en/collections/whites-bootshttps://eastwestapparel.co.uk/shop/browse/brand/whites-boots/https://clutch-cafe.com/collections/whites-boots
cop or not?
>>18315100Thanks, man.
>>18315101>i heard you like honey lug
>>18315100>920 USD for a pair of chromexcel semi dressThat's quite the markup.
>>18315245that's what you voted for in the EU
Why are Europeans completely unable to comprehend VAT?They pay it on everything they buy every day and then they consider buying something from overseas and shit and piss and cry that they will have to pay tax on it
>>18315246>>18315247Shut the fuck up, capitalists.
>>18315245if you're not happy with their prices you could just import them yourself
>>18315055How the fuck does that even happen?
>>18315247Because I want to pay less money, retard. Don't forget customs fees too.
>>18315286they use the cheapest available leather which typically means its very "flat" in its appearance so they apply a spray painted on finish but obviously lipstick on a pig
im thinking of buying ir and moc toes during black friday or at least hope they have a sale. but i wanna ask, which is better those 2 pairs or get one whites?
>>18315055is the angle on that just weird or is that an actual potato last? It looks ridiculous, how are you supposed to put a foot in there?
evening walk
>a third shoe went moldyit's over
>>18315690soloshitterbro...
>>18315707actually no. plastic doesn't have that issue going to have to wipe down with vinegar and condition later
>>18313378>Canada West not made in Canadahe's right, you know.
>>18313739>I'll just lie on the internet whatever, retard. enjoy your five different colored leathers.
I wore a new pair of black Jim Green ARs yesterday with jeans and a tshirt. They were very comfortable and it looked good. However, when I put on a hoodie, it didn't feel right at all. Hoodie + sneakers seemed more appropriate
not a big boot wearer but these threads are one of the most civilized on this board
>>18315534do you feel that rivet?
Do you guys fuck with 100 dollar shoetres, renomat, conditioner, cream polish and wax?
Does anyone have a guide on how to order a pair of Baker’s Bounty Hunters like what the options provided are?
>>18315920did'nto even know it was there desu>>18315951 i use 2 horsehair brushes from the local drugstore (each 2-3$) , a pair of old cotton boxers shorts and beeswax i got online for 15$, warm water if needed
>>18315951I get like 15 buck shoe trees and whatever saphir conditioner matches the leather. For 100 bucks those shoe trees better be lasted, and even then I wouldn't do it unless these were like super fancy dress oxfords and I had to wear them often enough to care.
>>18315951$26 woodlore shoe trees, bick 4 conditioner for everything including cordovan, and obenhauf grease for shitters
>>18316018tranny heelwhat is with the sole ? recycled materials ?
>>18316025No tranny heel, just a very well defined heel counter. The sole is rubber-cork from Osullivans. Wasn’t sure how I was going to feel about it at first, but it’s actually really comfortable and lightweight
>>18316018>>18316034Daaaamn these boys big as hell. Ronald McDonald lookinass.
>>18316034astrid lindgren wore the same shoes
>>18316034
>>18315951the most i've paid is 25 dollars for a jar of saphir reno
>>18315979just keep it simpleif you don't know what something is, then just don't choose it, you are not missing out on anything specialthey have some reference material on the bakers site info-custom boot options>last55 last>height6 inch is standard, if you want taller go with 8 (see farmer/rancher), rather don't get anything else unless you know what you wantdefault smokejumper is 10 inch, taller than most casual boots need to be>lace designgo plain toe for a standard config or lace to toe for a boot that has one more eyelet at the bottom (see whites cutter)>toe, upper counter leatherjust choose one leather for the whole boot, don't go two-tone, unless you've seen how it looks like on another pairmost of the leathers options are seen on stock whites or just google them>toe capself explanatory, "4 row" is the standard stock cap toe (see cap toe MP), the "medallion toe cap" is the one with punched holes (stevens dress cap), nobody goes 2 row>thread colorjust go factory choice>celastic toethe toe structure, single celastic is the default on most boots, go with that if you have no preferenceno celastic the toe will collapse and lose it's shape over timedon't go double celastic>steel toedon't>top/pull loop/hardwarego to info tab for reference pics>leather linerif you want the shaft to be lined or unlined, the vamp is lined always>sole trimsingle or double row stitch on the sole, most go with double, get single if you have small feet>midsolenever choose double midsole>heel basestandard is the logger heel with the curved profiletraveller is a block heel, almost nobody chooses that, no reference on stock models>heel liftgo default, never change the heel height>edgenatural is stock on MPs for reference, pretty light, but darkens with time anywaybrown is the default on most other stock whites models (see cruiser), still pretty light in color>never get the lineman patch>solesnever get the leather solesvib 430 is a good default
>>18311182ruined by those boring color jeans
>>18312015>baggy pant, slim boot
I want these so bad, yet have 0 idea on how to style them. Thoughts?
Hi I'm a new Fage, never bought boots, can anyone give me some boots advice please? Use will be mostly for aimless wandering and a bit of hiking. I'm in a coastal area so salt will be a problem. I'm considering solovairs derby and jim green African rangers at the moment, they are the only in the 200€~ price that I really like the look of.
What are some boots that don't have an inward pointing big toe shape? I will not wear footwear that goes against my foots alignment.
>>18316120Appreciate your help Anon, you rule
>>18316151munson last
>>18316141jim green are ugly and can fit weird but are good quality for the price. Solovair a shit.
>Wore Jim Greens all day on Sunday>They're extremely comfortable because I can splay my toes>Try to wear my sneakers today>My feet feel awful and I can't stand the narrow toeboxThe frog has ruined me.
>>18316120Really good rundown. I'd also say it should be noted that if you want mostly standard options (standard trim, no toe cap, logger heel, chromexcel leather, vbar sole) you are better off just ordering a Cruiser from White's. The Bounty Hunter is just special name for a Cruiser with custom options sold through Baker's. A standard Cruiser ordered from White's will likely ship much faster.
>>18316184That's how I feel about my White's. Nothing is feel comfortable like them. The arch support is so fucking good.
>>18316184this but my Whites
>>18315951shoetrees 20 bucks the stretton ones. keep my boots in shape and smelling fresh. horse hair brush from ebay 3, the oil and spray to protect and saddle soap, all of it was less than 50 bucks
>>18315951I fucked with $50 boot trees. Venetian shoe cream is like $7-9 a bottle
Hey are you supposed to tighten the screws on the bottom of the soles of a pair of Frank’s Boots? I have a pair of Patriot’s and have been tightening the screws and have found it to help the arch support but they didn’t tell me too and I’m hoping that I’m not fucking my shit up
should i spend $320 on grant stone or drink all week?
>>18316120>heel base heightSo does that make them into high heels if I raise them up above standard? Would it be faggy to get raised ones just for the experience? They would surely still look masculine, and as a 6’1 hapa I don’t think they would appear like a manlet cope boot; would it be fashy to own a high heeled boot for the novelty?
>>18316232Boots> drinking yourself to death, even if they’re garbage, they’ll still make you feel like you have something to live for, whereas to drink is to die
Are chelsea boots gay? I'm thinking of getting a pair from GS
>>18313315>made in China >"assembled" in CanadaWhat's the difference?
>>18310804which boot is this?
>>18316253pretty sure that's a pair of C&J
>>18316241Materials imported into China, like British leather,French cork, Italian rubber, you know? Garbage brought into a trash factory to be processed into refuse (a pair of built-broken boots
>>18316241crockett and jones argyll
>>18316186I appreciate this insight Anon, but I believe that the Bounty Hunter grants me a great opportunity for I as a man to explore and express my creativity towards my understanding of myself as a sovereign being, and allows me to refine my understanding of myself and my proportions, just to build one my own. The difference between what I think I like, and what I actually seek in a pair of boots could not be tested harder in any realer/truer circumstance. There’s no other way to get an 8” semi dress in red iguana/your dog’s leather anywhere else on this planet, and that’s where the beauty of the Bounty Hunter lies
>>18316272>>18316186If I buy them on Black Friday, then I will likely receive them around my big dirty 30’th birthday, and they will make sure I don’t kill myself out of fear of that date
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>>18316262>>18316260>>18316253These look grate but I am too poor. Any similar but cheaper boots?
>>18316297Not as sleek but looks at meerminhttps://meermin.com/collections/mens-boots/products/516386-tobacco-waxy-calf-e
>>18316240If you're gay they make you gayer.
I'm new to boots and I want to see if they're really for me before I spend a ton of money on them. There's this brand called pavers that apparently makes good quality hand made boots.Any UK anon here who has experience with them? What are they like comfort and durability wise?
