/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - WESTBALE EDITIONWhat do I need to care for my boots?>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)>Horsehair brush ($10-15)>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest themHow do I deal with x stain?>mud: allow it to dry then brush off>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're goodno. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.>Are Thursdays any good?no.Manufacturer Red Flags>Luxury>Bespoke>Sustainable>Vegan>Unknown leather source>Made in Chyna/Mexico/IndonesiaBoot Red Flags>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)>C*rk/C*lastic>Zippers>Non gusseted tongues>Excessive/unnecessary seams>Combination/mixed material heelsBoot Brands NO>Turdsdays>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters>any Whatsapp makers in the far eastPREV>>18310804
Ropertard unironically on suicide watch
>>18316285Those are very nice, possibly the apex of riding boot philosophy, no?
>>18316232Don’t drink sir, you’re better off not
>>18316285stupid sexy toe spring
>>18316297save up
>>18316296Are you the Anon who calls black boots “BDSM Implements”>you might be too molested to understand fashion, big dawg
Reminder to boycott Truman because the owner Vince is a raging asshole
>>18316301>Are you the Anon who calls black boots “BDSM Implements”fuck no
>>18316302ok Karen
>>18316302This is the first I’ve heard of them, in my life
>>18316302this has been known for agesthe first thing i ever learned about truman is that vince is an asshole
Blundstone lace ups, based or cringe?If cringe, offer an alternative or I'll cry about it.
>>18316308they're probably worse than their chelseas which are pretty fucking bad
when is jim green making sneakers
>>18316303Good, it’s funny though that you instantly knew who I was talking about; this is the earliest /btg/ I’ve hit, but I gotta tell you, I love boots so much and see them as such an important thing that I’m going to speak about them and treat them as such
>>18316311>it’s funny though that you instantly knew who I was talking abouti didnt thougheverbeit im just not shim
>>18316312Ok>>18316310I’m pretty sure there is a boot that surpasses every form of sneaker in every situation, sneakers are literally for children and you grow into some boat shoes or chukkas or trainers or whatever boot you need to survive?
Yanko service boots$250Non mystery meat leather Only issue is >Leatherboard heel countershttps://www.skolyx.se/en/boots/1306-yanko-service-boot-dark-brown.html
>>18316309Damn anon. Then what do for babby's first brown lace up boot?
>>18316317red wings
please pray the vinegar and conditioner saves my collection
>>18316315>that toe shapeno
>>18316325The sweat of your brow is the only one of your bodily fluids that can be considered holy, Anon.
>>18316330THE MOLD EATs SWEAT
>>18316332Oh, vacuum seal your shit if you’re MOLDED like that, also invest in ozone generators to backfill ozone into your walls, it’ll save your life and your home
>my boots with the worst QC Alden Indy>my most expensive bootsAlden Indy>my boots with the best QCClark's Desert Boot>my cheapest boots Clark's Desert BootInteresting...
>>18316339but if its tasty mold i kinda fuck with itill taste the footbed tomorrow and report back
>>18316340Are you eating a soup of cow shit and butter atm? (ass to mouth)
>>18316341MOLDbro doesn’t love every single kind of MOLD>NGMI
>>18316314>I’m pretty sure there is a boot that surpasses every form of sneaker in every situation,drivingrunning
>>18316360wait nevermind, Jim Green barefoot african ranger exists.
>>18316342You think I'm lying?
>>18316285>no zippersDamn. But these look neat. Besides the $750 price tag. What are some good “light weight” boots?
>>18316370Nah, I just think you’re full of shit and it’s affecting your nutrition which might be impairing your cognitive functions is all
Question: panama jacks good?
How do I care for nubuck leather? Does it require a different conditioner than fullgrain? My current maintenance for fullgrain leather is:>if dirty, brush with a soft brush>if really dirty, can use a damp cloth>once every ~year, use Obenauf's leather oilDo I need some kind of special suede conditioner instead?
>>18316302weird thing to complain about on 4chan of all places
>>18316480Also they are black so I don't care about darkening (and even prefer it)
>>18316484just do a normal conditioner
>>18316480>>18316486Conditioner? Condition for work? Sounds gay
>>18316458Not sure on quality, but the branding is enough to not cop.
>>18316391Head in the sand
>>18316506K i'll wait for a post on quality and also for a quality post.
>>18316458About as timberland, give or take.
>>18316480I don't doubt they're comfy. I don't doubt they're well made. I don't doubt they offer great value for the price. But honestly the shills who insist they look good should get their eyrs checked. Autism shoes if I ever saw one.
>>18316272I totally agree. I just wanted something simple myself when I went down the Bounty Hunter rabbithole and realized what I was essentially going to order was black chromexcel Cruisers with a unnecessary lead time. So I ended up ordering Cruisers from White's instead and got them in hand less than a week after ordering (I also paid for 2 day air lol). I'm probably gonna order some 7 inch brown roughout Bounty Hunters once the black Friday sale hits.>>18316275That's the spirit!
ID on these shoes?
>>18316645Probably some Japan exclusive redwing moc toe
>GF's Becca boots going into production (quick ship all black)can't wait for her to step on my nuts in them
>>18316595They look fine. People who are smart are buying them because they are functional.redditors not included
>>18316595I can see the appeal to the Razorback but the African Range is so fucking ugly.
So when shoetres online say like size 42 is that exactly a shoesize 42 (EU) and its that easy to order shoetrees online without trying them?
What do we think about chukkas? Sloppy or slouchy?
>>18316691>They look fine. No. They look like toddler shoes.>People who are smart are buying them because they are functional.I said I don't doubt that.
>>18316767Nope. For instance my Red Wings are a size 42 but the 42 shoe trees didn't fit and had to exchange to a 41.
Guidi.
>>18316777Shoe trees have springs in them so they can change size a lot though, you have to royally fuck up the sizing for them to not fit.
>>18316777That sounds like it would make sense for me as well, also because I have a sole at the bottom of the shoe (which I can take out) and a sole stuck to the roof of the shoe.If I order I think i will go for 41, and with the way the shoe narrows at the toe tip it just seems hard to imagine the shoetrees would go all the way in there when they arent custom fitted anyway is what Im thinking.Im looking at one of those with adjustable width
>>18316767Shoe sizes mean literally nothing. I’m everything between 41 (some UK boots) to 43 1/3 (Adidas sneakers).
This fucking retailer, I just want to ask about doing a custom order but they won't reply to emails or IG. Are there any other bootmakers that would make a good boondocker in natural roughout that accommodates wider feet?
>>18316767shoe trees should have a spring in them that lets it fit a couple sizes
>>18316819You could try doing a custom White's MP configuration to imitate a boondocker. Or do something like a plain toe Bounty Hunter with a lowered block heel through Baker's.
>>18316819Something like this would certainly look close to a Boondocker unless you're an autist that needs it to be a repro.
>>18316843based
>>18316839>>18316843I don't need a perfect repo, but the back on the bounty hunter would bother me. I wonder if I can convince them to do an MP-M1 for me in that same leather and with a 430 sole. Is there a reason all the leathers available for the bounty hunter aren't the same for the custom MPs?
>>18316847Call (or email) Baker's and/or White's they're usually down to work something special out. From what I've heard they are especially sympathic to wide footed potential clients because they know it can be a pain in the ass to find properly fitting footwear.
>>18316772I keep a pair around for those days when I'm wearing tapered jeans that would make my other boots look like clown shoes. Pairs better with those outfits than sneakers sometimes
>>18316773They look fine. People pay $700 on MTO Nigs that look 1000x worse.
>>18316925The afrincan ranger, which is their most popular model according to the pics floating around, look like autism shoes. I don't know why picrel isn't as popular. Now this, well, we're talking.
>>18316931>that puckeringjesus fuck
>>18316793Different brands size differently. It was imposdible to fit the 42 shoe trees in the Red Wings. The 41s fit with the springs fully compressed.I would add that most brands convert sizes from US to EU as they please. Which makes buying online even more of a hassle.>>18316794I just bought them at my local mall so exchanging them wasn't an issue. At the end of the day it's a carved piece of cedar wood with a couple of springs.
>>18316940Fuck, I wasn't aware those are a collab with RA. Gotta give it to him, though, his collabs are usually pretty kino.
>>18317075I would've liked to get the barefoot version AR/ATs, but even with JG's touted "wide toebox" it still looks like it has inward pointing toes, and that's a no go for me.
>>18316988>>18316991my honest reaction
>>18316988Who would wear these? I mean, I'm trying to picture the kind of person and with which fit would wear them but nothing comes up.
I'm new to boots and I want to see if they're really for me before I spend a ton of money on them. There's this brand called pavers that apparently makes good quality hand made boots.Any UK anon here who has experience with them? What are they like comfort and durability wise?
>>18317110UK? Just buy Crockett and Jones. Don't ask any more questions.
>>18317110you're legit retarded if you those prices are legit
>>18317110how are you going to see 19 quid and say with a straight face you think theyre handmade
were do you find 2nd hand galways?
>>18316931What the fuck kind of kiltie is that? Reminds me of a woman in mourning
>>18317139Why would you ever want a pair of 2nd hand anything, but especially boots?
ive never owned boots. im leaning to black timbs. any alternative suggestions? i just want warm shoes for winter. i don't really care about anything expensive.
>>18317192For cheap boots they aren't a terrible option. The premium line is Goodyear welted if i remember correctly. Decent deal and can be found on sale.
>>18317132The pixies built them, of course
>>18316315If you like this get Red Wing Beckmans. They will be better.
>>18316302But what are his thoughts on niggers?
>>18316767Yes, shoe trees will fit a range of sizes. Usually they are just S, M, L, or XL and each fit a range of sizes because there is a spring in shoe trees.
>>18316645Looks like Red Wing Supersole Moc toe in white. Probably not sold in the US.
1: Any boots with a chunky profile like Red Wing Iron Ranger and Red Wing Blacksmith? I don't mind the clown toe, I want something with heft but different leather than Red Wing has. I also want to avoid PNW boots because I don't have the patience to wait two years for a pair of boots.2: Anyone here own Alden Indy boots? I like the style and a friend of mine is selling his pair for a great price, I'm just curious about the durability of modern Alden. His pair is four years old, it was an impulse buy that he never really wore so they're still in great shape.
>>18317252Four year old Indys will be better than today's. They aren't worth full price but if your friend is selling a lightly used pair for a good price it's worth. Depends howuch they are worn.
What does the nut on the top of the boot trees even do?
>>18317254>They aren't worth full price but if your friend is selling a lightly used pair for a good price it's worth. Depends howuch they are worn.They've been worn maybe ten times and he's selling them for 200. No creases on the leather, sole is in great shape as well. I'm probably going to buy them, I think the price is pretty fair.
>>18316925Bison leather is such a meme. I laugh every time I see a pair.
>>18316940These are not even out, how do you know they are not popular?
>>18317262It's a handle to take them out.>>18317339I was browsing the JG site, saw them and though "damm, these look way, way better than the african rangers that keep being posted all over the internet, why aren't these their flagship instead?" and later realized that these are a collab with Rose Anvil not yet released. I don't doubt they'll sell out in a matter of hours.
>>18317252>1:Truman on the 20 last.
>>18317372>Truman on the 20 lastThanks anon, this is exactly the type of boot I was looking for. It's chunky and has interesting leather.https://www.trumanboot.com/products/coach-rambler-20-last?_pos=9&_fid=0108a3a2b&_ss=c&variant=46202982793456Now to figure out if I want to be a Jew and wait till black Friday or buy a pair now before they potentially sell out in my size
>>18317397Trumans sell fast. Go to their site and fill the sizing form, they'll answer in a day or so and are very accurate. Also subscribe to their newsletter, they're spammers but you'll get an inmediate notice when the sale starts.
>>18316940>300 bucks for JG
>>18317405they've reached meme velocity
>>18317405Name an alternative at that price point.
>>18317408thursday
>>18317405It sucks that the Hoggs of Fife Rannoch isn't as cheap anymore, i got mine for 350 Euros like 1.5 years ago. Not a chinesium sole, superior veldtschoen construction, fully lined and made by Cheaney. Probably my best value boot.
>>18317409Anon...>>18317418Are those yours? They look pretty good. How much are they these days?
>>18317435https://www.hoggs.co.uk/footwear/country-shoes-and-boots/668r-rannoch-lace-bootShould still be able to find deals around ~£350-380Not sure you can find them outside of the UK, but if theres any retailer with cheap shipping to US, its still a good deal if you remove the VAT.
>>18317408I don't even know what JG stands for, but Red Wing and Astorflex are certainly two better options for that price point.
>>18317438that's debatable. jg are generally shitckickers while rw heritage and astorfles are fashion focused with ok construction
>>18317478The only reason JG are the designated shitkickers is not that they're exceptionally well constructed, it's that they're CHEAP and reasonably well built for the price, RW boots could take as much if not more punishment while being more comfortable and sure more fashionable as well, but of course you could buy two pairs of african rangers for one pair of RW so it's hard to beat that value.
>>18317478Lol no, both RW and AF are both better-looking and better-built than JG's.
>>18317287Jesus Christ, i know people call Iron Rangers Ronald Mcdonald shoes but holy fucking shit. Those unironically could pass as clown shoes. A professional clown could wear those to a child's birthday party and they wouldn't look out of place.
What are the best Christmas boots out there?
>>18317585black engineers of course
>>18317589>Ho ho ho! I was never really a fan of engineers until you reminded me of them actually being chad Santy Claus boots and and that made them click for me, that’s based kino right there; no wonder some of you guy’s are so into them.
>>18317599well he had to get engineers becuse you can't find ropers that far north
Planning to get a pair of Perry 6" Select from White's during the sale, this'll be my first time buying handmade boots, any advice on what to look out for?Mainly on checking for defects and sizing, since I've never bought boots before, only sneakers.Also, Burgundy (Top) or British Tan (Bottom)?
So, apparently even the highly praised White's makes shoes with glued soles.
do any of you buy used shoes?i am thinking of getting a really cheap pair to wear for work, so they can get dirty and stuff. not sure what to think of used shoes though. arent they kinda disgusting?
>>18317715yeah im not wearing used footwear or clothing for that matter.
>>18317660what's the issue here exactly?clearly has a rubber slipsole like every wedge sole boot
>>18317742i dont have any problems getting used clothes, but shoes are hard to clean and will absorb the wearer's sweat and grime over time
>retard trying to advertise his shit momo boots or whatever got so butthurt he got BTFO by the non stitched sole that now he's trying this retarded gotcha with White'slol, lmao even
>>18317715yeah for certain difficult to acquire brands like yuketen
>>18317762it's funny how white's makes him so upset
>>18317748It's not stitched to the middle sole
>>18317715If they're clean, no problem for me. It's almost sexually arousing to be honest.
>>18317715There's plenty of guys selling shoes and boots that have been worn once or twice due to bad sizing or being unaware of the breaking in period or a miriad other reasons. Clean the inside with vinegar diluted in water and let them dry for 24h, you should be fine.
>>18317773it is
>>18317642FYI Perry are from the GYW line so they're not handwelted like their mainline but they're still better than 75% of GYW boots out there.Wear thick wool socks I personally like the burgundy
>>18317789As the picture shows, it's not.
dark brown: upper flared out and stitched down to the midsolemedium brown: midsoledark grey: rubber slipsoleblack: outsolekeep seething about White's tho
If it's stitched then why can't you see the thread?
>he thinks the midsole is the outsoleOH NO NO NO NO NO
>>18317823you are retarded
>>18317825Very poor reading comprehension, nigger. I said the outsole is not stitched to the midsole. If you can't see the thread, it isn't.>>18317826Why? I'm here to learn. Shitting on White's is not my goal.
>its notyou didn't specify
>>18317868I didn't, right. But from the first picture it was clear I meant the rubber outsole.White's has models where it's stitched, this one isn't.
>>18317873good, makes replacing the outsole cheaper, easier and lowers the chance for a shit cobbler to mess it up.
Black Chromexcel Cruisers
best boots in color 8 shell cordovan or similar color? Lofgren?
>>18317941sexo>>18317954vibergs
>>18317742Based squished toes enjoyer.Why don't you try using shoes that fit?
>>18317974not my pic, a shit pair of moldy rw from internet. it was used to illustrate my point - i dont buy used footwear
>>18317941Puking rn.
>>18316285>westbales are on sale alreadyFuck I might get a pair but I don't want to fuck up the sizing
>>18317982food poisoning?
>>18317982You're welcome
>>18317941They look really ugly, ngl.
>>18318001why did you reply twice
>>18317941they look really sweet
>>18317982>>18318001Same poorfag seething about boots he cannot afford
>>18318005Thanks anon, they are my first pair of mainline White's. I'm very happy with them both in looks and in comfort. My job is 60% office, 40% field work, and they have been excellent to me since I bought them back in June.
>>18317941You're killing me anon, those look great but I don't want to buy any boots with a long ass wait time.How long did it take you to get them in?
>>18318007Cope moar, pajeet.
>>18318013How'd you size them? Just follow their guide on the site?
>>18317991Chromeincel.>>18318007kys
so convincing
the giveaway was the use of periods btw try not to sour grape so hard next time
is beckett simonon a legit company, or 3rd world garbage?
>more than one person in this world can have proper grammarRetard get a life.
>>18318087there was a guy ITT who got burned by BS
>>18318087The $150 oxfords I got from them was pretty good
should i get a pair of balmorals to replace my worn out budget chukkas and to complement my redwing blacksmiths?i need something more formal i feel like
>>18318119Yest.waiting for my balmorals to arrive
rate my poverty boots I got for 129 euros on Black Friday sales
>>18318021>>18318065Imagine going through all that effort just to samefag on effay
>>18318132>rate my poverty boots I got for 129 euros on Black Friday salesShit. I don't mean that as an exaggeration, that was a terrible choice.Why not just spend an additional 50 or so euros and get a pair of proper Goodyear welted boots with decent leather?
>>18318132wasted money/10glued shit/10
>>18318165on what?there is nothing decent below $350
>>18318165The nearest option with a very similar style are these astorflex for 250 euros. But they cost double. Is that a huge inprovement?
>>18318190yes because those are stitchdown instead of the glued shit
>>18318190you alreaady bought the other boot, so why do you care at this point about the nearest similar boot?
>>18318193Idk about your obsession with soles. I’ve had many cheap boots die in front of me, but it was never about the sole coming off.
>>18318197Cuz by “bought” I mean “ordered”, it’s reversible.
> Is that a huge inprovement?yes stitched is a huge "inprovement">b-b-buwho the fuck cares stitchdown > glued
>>18318202crazy how your dumb scenarios always change in some way?
Dude, I live in a tent on the side of a mountain in Southern California. What kind of boot does /btg/ recommend for maximum advantage?
>>18318204C’est la vie of a poorfagBut I’m not making it up
all this posting and samefagging about shitty cheap garbage was just ropertard?no fucking way, did we all just get trolled epic style?
>>18317941cxl is a horrible looking leather
>>18318205>I live in a tent>Southern CaliforniaThursday Captain with the lug sole
>>18318222Fuck you too>check’d
>>18318213All depends on the clicking. Well clicked pairs will roll and minimize the creasing. Mine have this awesome marble-like pattern on the counters I fucking love that you'd never get with most other leather types.
>>18318087I’m the anon who got burned by them. The leather around the eyelets stretched. I’ve asked some shoe repair shops, a cobbler, and a leather worker about them. The shoe repair shops said they can’t be fixed. The cobbler said they are fine. The leather worker said they are fine and recommended waiting to see if the eyelet falls out completely then replacing just the eyelets. My cope is the cobbler and leather worker are more knowledgeable about leather shoes than the people who just replace soles.
>>18318248They look fine to me, same opinion as the leather worker; I’d say cheap hardware issue
>leather stretched>its the hardware's fault
>>18318258Leather stretches you fucking dunce
>>18318265Yes and the cheap shit leather BS used stretched when pulling pressure was applied to the point where the second to top eyelet has a visible gap now
>>18318258>>18318265Good hardware will cinch to the leather to keep it tight and in position around itself, cheap chink aluminium bullshit will melt at room temperature, so using them as a hardware material for something like a boot is irresponsible at best
>>18318132The toe springs aren't even at the same level. Honestly if I was gonna buy glued shit I'd get Timbs premium or Panama Jack if you're too cool for Timbs. Jim Green has some decent models at that price point, Astorflex has some stuff at $200 or less if you look around. Or try to buy used unworn or lightly worn.
>>18318256Do you think it’s a DIY fix when they do eventually fail? The leather worker thought so. >>18318266You can’t see it in the picture but the top eyelet has a larger gap.
>>18318272I don’t have any experience with it, but I would believe all you’d need is a simple rivet tool (or even a hammer and pinch) and some quality metal eyelets and you could probably stamp them in less than a half hour. Hopefully some Anon with more hands on understanding can pitch in, but I have the feeling that if you just immediately improved the hardware on certain brands then it would instantly raise them into a higher tier of quality
>>18318280*hammer and punch
whites have a blackfriday sale now. i almost fomod their semi dress but i had to close the window
