/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - WINTER MOC EDITIONWhat do I need to care for my boots?>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)>Horsehair brush ($10-15)>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest themHow do I deal with x stain?>mud: allow it to dry then brush off>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're goodno. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.>Are Thursdays any good?no.Manufacturer Red Flags>Luxury>Bespoke>Sustainable>Vegan>Unknown leather source>Made in Chyna/Mexico/IndonesiaBoot Red Flags>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)>C*rk/C*lastic>Zippers>Non gusseted tongues>Excessive/unnecessary seams>Combination/mixed material heelsBoot Brands NO>Turdsdays>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters>any Whatsapp makers in the far eastPREV>>18339157
>they flew stridewise to india to shill blkbrdlol
>it's a hate on china even though they btfo anything cheaper than pnw boots episode
do you guys know any good mary jane's with thickish soles and not super insane drop?
Does anyone own both Tricker's and Grant Stone? Are the sizings similar or the usual one less than UK size?
>>18345712dude i think you mean brogues
>>18345785its 1 down from US Brannock anon. Unless its 4444 then you might want to do 1.5 down.
Frank's Rainiers came in. Their sizing advice was spot on (1 down from Brannock, same width). I'm a 9.5ee and these are an 8.5ee and fit great.
>>18345869What the fuck are those clown shoe aahhhs ong frfr
Do people actually like the look of a wedge sole?
Viberg Archive sale is on now, pretty lacking for sizes but you might find something good. I might get a pair of the slides for $100.https://www.vibergarchive.com/
>>18345934If you’re in construction it’s useful. If they wont be used on a job site I don’t see the appeal.
>>18345956These are barely discounted. Last October during the archive sale they had 2030s for $480.
>>18345958The Canadian economy is in the shitter so yea its not surprising.
>>18345934Yeah, it's more comfortable than stacked leather and makes the boot look even more casual. They're a poor choice for a first or only boot for that reason, but I have a big enough collection that I like the variety
Getting a pair of Solovair Greasy Dealer boots for Christmas. Does anyone have experience with sizing? I wear 10.5, and I've been advised to get 10.
>>18345869niceis that the stock black roughout? almost looks like waxy commander
>>18345934they are softer underfoot than a lot of other materials
>>18345869goddamn is that a double midsole
>>18345984Yeah these are the stock model so I'd assume it's just the basic roughout
>>18345785For trickers just follow the size guide on their website. With some of their models you go half an UK size down, but most are true to size.
>>18345934I disliked moc toes with wedge soles but eventually they grew on me. Got a pair and now they're my goto boot for work. Comfy, stable, tons of support. But you were asking about looks. I like wedge soles on mocs now, but dislike them on almost anything else, really hate them on engineers.
i got my first pair of boots/ir and theyre kicking my ass rn. should i buy insoles to help or ist bc im not used to these things? boots feel hella unconfortable and im wearing thick socks.
>>18346099you have to wear them in short incrementally increasing time. 2 hours for the first day, 4 hours for the next etc
>>18346099You got the wrong size. New boots should feel stiff but never painfully uncomfortable.
>>18346099i can barely understand your ESL phone-post, but if you're asking for break-in advice, I'd recommend just wearing them for only a few hours at a time. Also, if you fell for the "size down" meme, I have no sympathy for you since you didn't do your own research before hand.
>>18345869Soles like gay as hell, but the waxed leather looks nice.
>>18345934No they look like ass.
>>18346113>, I have no sympathy for you since you didn't do your own research before hand.NTA but had he done is "own research" he would have come to that conclussion because that advice is ubiquitous.
will cobblers resole jim green stuff or is it considered too low quality? i know they're not very fashionable but it feels basically impossible to find any barefoot type zero drop stuff with any higher quality, i know everyone kind of hates barefoot junk but i prefer them for walking and hiking and don't wanna buy something that can't even be repaired
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>>18346246I assume that any cobbler able to do a proper resole would do it.
>>18346253Kinda like 'em ngl
>>18346246>>18346254stitchdown should be easy assuming the cobbler would (try) to hit the same holes (but they won't)
>>18346256>>18346254is there any way i can test if a cobbler is retarded without sounding rude?
>>18346266It might depend on your area and country. Ask them if they do welts. If they say yes, there's a good chance they know what they do. If they ask what you're talking about, just say nevermind and walk away.
>>18346338what if they ask "what do you mean?" and they do do welts but just want me to rephrase the question for some reason
>>18346237Sure, if your research consisted solely of redditors and paid shill influencers and have never bought your own shoes before.
>>18346113what's the size down thing about anon? ive never heard of it
Preorder Java Waxed Flesh from Truman with customization available is live now. Might be one of the last chances to get non-pozzed Trumans.
>>18346370>muh researchThe thing is, if you're ignorant about this stuff you cannot tell good from bad advice. Redditors and paid shills are about 90% of the boot content out there.
>>18346370the majority of people push the uncomfortable out the box memestop being a cunt
>>18345869Wow very gay
>>18345934I like mine. They’re more casual
>>18345934They look like shit.
>>18345869very nice
>>18346371>what's the size down thing about anon?Redditors recommend that instead of buying a pair that is your size (or size comfortable for your feet), you should instead by a size that is smaller. The logic is based on the idea that the upper will stretch and form to your foot while getting that pull-up and patina that you can post pics for internet clout. While stretching does happen, it's not normally so drastic that you should expect half- or full-size of stretch. >>18346378>The thing is, if you're ignorant about this stuff you cannot tell good from bad advice.How is it that these people lack the life experience of outgrowing their shoes when they were kids? When was it that rudimentary logic of getting the size that fits you was superceded by "cram your feet into this" by the masses?>>18346390Touch grass, faggot. Anybody who are regularly on their feet know the importance of comfortable footwear. Falling for the size down meme is pure ignorance.
>>18346371Sneakers and athletic shoes tend to run small compared to Brannock sizing (the closest thing to a universal standard), leather footwear tends to run large. To account for this, most places suggest sizing down from your usual size (ie. sneaker size) when buying boots.Problem is that people misread "size down to adjust for tag size discrepancy" to mean "get boots that are slightly too small and allow the leather to break in around your feet". Technically it works, but it's a long, painful process that shortens the lifespan of the boot and makes them look ugly and deformed once they're finally broken in (read: mangled to accommodate feet at least one size too long). And all of that is before even talking about different last shapes being better for certain feet, and different widths, none of which the average sneaker consumer ever deals with.
>>18346450The vast mayority of people new to boots come from sneakers. Usually you need to size down from your sneaker size to boots. Add to that that different brands size differently and you get a lot of confussion about proper boot size. Top that with the widespread misinformation about it and you get plenty of noobs unsure about their proper size and more often than not getting a pair tgat's too small. But you're just being facetious, retarded or an asshole, so let's leave it at that.
>>18346266ask to see their work
>>18346093if those were green they might be cool
Most every maker has detailed instructions on how to measure your foot and what that measurement means for their boots. Do that and then email or the company. They want to sell you boots. they will help you and they know more about their products than Joe Schmo on Reddit.
Size 14 Pecos arrived. My first pair of red wings, they are awesome. Only had UK brands and Alden but they are a bit lackluster.
>gs doesn't have Chelseas in Color #8It's over
>>18345689thoughts about these as poorfags iron rangers?
>>18346696yes>>18346694#8 cxl is ass desu
>>18346370Yeah if this is someone's first time buying a boot they could do research and read that and think it's true. How are you defeating all of your own points?
>>18346738they look a bit goofier though and the tongue seems kinda fucky but the main concern for me is the soles since theyre made of some africanium mystery compound that gets fucked easily not sure if i should wait to see if they have any defects or just fucking go for it ive seen iron rangers somewhere for like $310 but not in my size, shame
>>18346742its literally a unit solea south african could resole those
>>18346746yeah but i dont want to end up with a sole that's too soft or hard for the shoe construction
>>18346752then just fucking change it for like $15 at the worst cobbler in your area they cant fuck it upits not stitched
>>18346755hmmmmmmmmmmmbut $250 doughie it's lotsa money
>>18346761>but $250 doughie it's lotsa moneyleave.
>>18346763nuh uh
Who knew packers could look so good
>>18346450You're retarded. Absolutely no one was talking about buying a pair that doesn't fit except you. When people talk about sizing down, it's from their sneaker size. Dumb fucking autist. I hope your mom gets hit by a car tonight.
>>18346806>I hope your mom gets hit by a car tonight.a bit too far m8. hes wrong but you should apologize
>>18346457>Problem is that people misread "size down to adjust for tag size discrepancy" to mean "get boots that are slightly too small and allow the leather to break in around your feet".Which is why people need to do their due diligence instead of relying on parroted misinformation and coming to the wrong conclusion. Regardless of Brannock sizing or any other article of clothing, sound logic would be to try it on first and see how it fits. If anything, it's better to err on the side of caution and size up, not down.
>>18346458Variance in brand and last still does not excuse them from trying on the boots to see that they fit. The label could read size 10 and fit like Nike size 14. It doesn't matter what the label says. If the shoe doesn't fit, you have to ask yourself why are you forcing it? If the answer is just something you saw on the internet, then you have only yourself to blame.
>>18346741How is "try it on to see that it fits" defeating my own point?
>>18346806Stop being a faggot. People who are terminally online get deserve no sympathy. A person with a modicum of life experience knows that you buy clothes that fit you, not guess what your size should be by going smaller another article of clothing that does. Thinking that there's a universal and direct correlation between sneaker and boot size for every shoemaker is pure ignorance and people like you are physically harming others every time you regurgitate this fuddlore.
>>18346885anyone worth buying from will at least have one of those forms you can fill out to get a better idea of your size or will at least have some way besides looking at reddit to better choose your sizei mean do you guys seriously look up "blank brand sizing" and ignore everything till you see reddit.com????
>>18346246Hi Anon. As others have said, the stitchdown construction makes it pretty easy for a cobbler or any sufficiently motivated phoneposter to do a resole on the Jim Greens. I own a lot of barefoot shoes and the Jim Greens are definitely the highest quality/best constructed of them all, in comparison to the various Splays, Peerkos, and Bee Lenkas. I will caution that the African Rangers in particular are a little on the narrow side for barefoot boots, so if you're accustomed to something really wide like Bee Lenkas or Splays, you might want a half-size up.
>>18346343what?
Anybody have experience with red wing work chukkas? Thinking about grabbing some but I'm not sure about traction and the silhouette. I'll probably try some on later this week but if anyone has any experience it'd be appreciated
>>18347186>tractionIt's a vibram christy sole, no? Grips well enough for everyday situations.
>>18345689w2c pants unironically?
>>18347186>>18347210its not vibram, its a different sole they use on their moc toes, not quite as good and little traction>>18347211https://divisionroadinc.com/products/the-quartermaster-french-chino-re-camo-herringbone-twill
>>18347186have you looked at the weekender chukkas? lower profile, stitchdown, and probably more traction
>>18346408Those Fracap are great.
>>18347215Sold out in my size. Bummer
>>18347210>>18347215The one on the chukkas is Atlas tread and the one on the Mocs is traction tread I think. I'm not sure if they differ much besides tread pattern. Id like a pair of boots that'd do alright in some snow and slush but we'll see. I have winter boots and hikers that I use when it's really shitty out>>18347216Weekenders look good but I already have a pair of desert boots so I think they'd be too similar.
>>18347244>I'm not sure if they differ much besides tread patternthe rubber compound is inferior on the atlas in my experience, it feels harder underfoot and managed to chip
Would you rather get a leather jacket or some Vibergs? Price is the same
>>18347266Vibergs, sadly leather jackets are kinda corny.
>>18347266what kind of leather jacket
>>18347247Hmm that's not great. I also heard that they are one of the models that use the poron footbed? Do all red wings now? I like my poron work boots but it kind of kills a bit of the charm for me
>>18347413don't know about the poron part since my pair was 5 or 6 years ago
>>18347408I'm budgeting 1k so I was looking at some Schotts of Vansons
>>18347420i meant the styleA2?Cafe racer?the stupid asymmetrical style?
>>18347434Cafe racer as I find it's versatile enough to not just be motorcycle larp
>>18347438how many boots you got?
>>183474402 pairs of whites2 pairs of red wings1 pair of aldens
>>18347438I don't like cafe racer jackets
>>18347442get the cafe racer
>>18347443Didn't ask
>>18347447You actually did when you asked>Would you rather get a leather jacket or some Vibergs?Dumb faggot
>>18347450if I said not a cafe racer jacket would your answer change?
>>18347451I prefer single rider jackets, but since I already have one I'd get the Vibergs.
>>18347442what jackets do you own?
gave a pair of white's 350 cruisers to a kid in my building because they don't fit me and i cannot sell them in this country. they fit him perfectly and he was more excited than i expected. boot gods need to bless me with good luck on my next purchases now.
>>18346890>anyone worth buying from will at least have one of those forms you can fill outOnly if you're getting bespoke items made which is practically nobody that fulfills volume production. Even when getting suits altered, nobody is filling out forms. The only time I've heard a bootmaker asking for forms are when they announce that they're making a batch of a limited run. Not people who are buying Red Wings and Grant Stones. >i mean do you guys seriously look up "blank brand sizing" and ignore everything till you see reddit.com????That's the argument that they're making. It's preposterous to just get a size on some fuddlore you've heard before instead of seeing how it fits before buying it.
>>18347573Just remember that it's important to not come on too strong when you're grooming somebody.
post feet and I’ll recommend boots for you
>>18345934>Do people actually like the look of a wedge sole?Depends on the actual shape of the sole and the upper. To me they look weird if they aren't a moc toe or classic nubuck work boots. Thing is that if you're just wearing them for fashion, you're probably getting them in a white color which means that they'll quickly look like shit if you don't keep them clean... which is why I don't have any.
>>18346371Boots run large. If you wear a 10 in sneakers, go down to 9 in boots and adjust from there if they're too big or small, instead of trying to figure out stupid brannock shit beforehand that gives you different measurements depending on where you look.
Can anyone recommend some brands/styles on boots, I don't put to much effort into my dress sense, it's usually something a little similar to pic related.
my second season wearing these. Panama Jack (Havana Joe if you're in the US) Panama 03.Leather lined, though there are other lining options available this seemed to me like the most durable. Not exactly winter boots, but it doesn't usually get below -5°C where I live, so that's fine.If you've been disappointed with the quality of Timberlands lately, these are a genuinely great option. About the same price, Spanish made, very comfortable after just a few days of breaking them in.
>>18347644Dr Martens will match your pronoun badge.
Does anyone wear derby or oxfords? What brands do you recommend for around 400 USD? I’d prefer rubber soles because I walk a lot, and I don’t know if leather soles will hold up.
>>18347688What part of what I said makes you think I have a pronoun badge? Trannies are disgusting
>>18347693TLB Mallorca. I have some pairs from their Artista collection, but the main collection is in your budget and they've been great shoes so far.
>>18347721These look great, plenty of styles too. Thanks for the recommendation.
>>18347603almost all of them have something to help with sizing at least, grant stone has a page on their website about it and also just says to email them if you're not sure after reading itred wings has some weird integration with this foot scanning thingive seen a couple forms, pretty sure that sort of thing takes a while though, id prefer most do what white's does, which is why i said they should at least have a form, since it's my least favorite methodthe only people using reddit for sizing info are lazy people
Did you cop the Goral x Iron Snail collab?
>>18347803Not my style, but I appreciate the idea of a dedicated winter sneaker with good materials. Problem is that if I am in a situation where I would wear that shoe, I'm just going to be wearing boots instead.
Has anyone tried the deer leather grant stones
>>18347803>Iron Snailthis guy wants to be a famous influencer and big name so bad but he's simply not attractive enough. he's a solid 4.5/10 and no one wants to watch someone like that
Which chukka should I get the Crockett and Jones or the TLB?https://us.crockettandjones.com/collections/mens-chukka-boot-collection/products/chiltern-snuff-suedehttps://www.tlbmallorca.com/products/boots-picasso-suede-polo-brown-308
>>18348035the C&J looks better
>>18348035>chukkaMore like shitta
>>18348035For me, it's the Crown Northampton desert boot
Rancourt has stopped using chromexel for their shoes. Now they use an unnamed "heritage leather"Initially i was pretty miffed about this but I don't think chromexel was a good choice for mocs and loafers anyways. Hopefully whatever they are using now is still decent quality.https://www.rancourtandcompany.com/collections/not-sale/products/beefroll-penny-loafers-carolina-brown-chromexcel
>>18348056I don't want a crepe sole
Just ordered these 8133s factory second for $150 but kind of on the fence about the contrast stitching. Know /fa/ seems to think Red Wings are reddit boots but I'm curious about second opinions.
>>18348114contrast stitching saves them from looking tryhardthose are from the work line, right?
>>18348114>Know /fa/ seems to think Red Wings are reddit bootsthat's fucking retarded. RW is the best value for money in terms of material and build quality
>>18348114No Thursdays are the Reddit boots
>>18348114black is boring but its a solid boot otherwise
>>18347800I have never seen a form of any kind when I bought my Red Wings. No foot scan or Brannock device either. Literally walked in, tried different boots in different sizes, I was out the door with new boots 20min later.
>>18348119>>18348123RW is very reddit. At least their IRs are. You can do a google search right now on "iron rangers" and you get a bunch of links to reddit. Other links to Rose Anvil and Stridewise which are extremely reddit-adjacent.
>>18348056You own a pair? Is the insole leather? Bit confused by this description.>Leather lined footbedUsually when bootmakers write something like that it means they just put like some thin thin cheap leather lining on top of whatever they use as the insole/lasting board.Also what the fuck does this mean?>Internally the boot is unlined as the suede upper is moss backed which increases wearer comfortThe boots are filled with moss?
>>18348149Based
>>18348114>Just ordered these 8133s factory second for $150Not bad. What was wrong with them?> but kind of on the fence about the contrast stitching.I'm iffy on it, too. But a good deal is a good deal regardless of the Hot Topic emo vibes.
>>18348149I think the moc toes are the worst offenders, but they are a good choice for an entry level boot company.
>>18348158>he thinks buying shoes is a multilevel videogame
>>18348149so how a search engine indexes its searches is how you determine the value of a boot
>>18348118Not sure. I know they were a limited release this year and are based on an older boot. >>18348149Iron Rangers and Mocs are popular on reddit, but I think they're still great boots,they just have a timeless look to them. >>18348157>What was wrong with them?That's kind of the kicker here because I won't know until I get them. Ordered from Berkeley Supply. Not expecting any major problems though. >regardless of the Hot Topic emo vibesWhy did you say this bro now I'm leaning towards not wanting them
>>18348169that's just black boots for you
>>18348165videogame? these things cost real money and some are very expensive
>>18348169>they just have a timeless look to themSo does Ikea. Ikea furniture is shit, though.>>18348171What exactly do you think you are entering, when you say ‘entry-level’?
>inb4 the world of shoes KEK
>>18348173>What exactly do you think you are enteringyour mom
>>18348140>>18348170I think black suits me more because I am emo and gay
>>18348168>so how a search engine indexes its searches is how you determine the value of a bootYou're falsely equating the reddit label as indication of level of value or quality. That's not the case. Both good and bad things can earn the moniker and isn't limited to subreddits but the internet as a whole. What makes something "reddit" is the disparity between popular opinion and fact-supported reality. The popular opinion of whatever topic is often rudimentary (and even irrational or emotionally-charged) while more complex ideas are often too difficult to digest by the masses of various backgrounds so nuanced facts and experts don't get as much traction so they often go ignored or in some cases shunned. RW's heritage boots for example are fairly well-constructed and look good enough for fashionable wear. However, the reddit opinion gasses them up when after spending enough time researching boots, you may find that RW is actually pretty mid-tier. THAT is what makes them reddit.
so grant stone is reddit too got it
>>18348169>Why did you say this bro now I'm leaning towards not wanting themDon't be so impulsive in buying things next time. And as >>18348170and >>18348186 said, it comes with the territory of black boots with thick soles. And as I've said, a good deal is a good deal. The RW Moc is a good boot. The only worrying thing is that you don't know what's wrong with them.
>>18348192>chinkshit is redditChecks out.
>>18348149Oh no no no no no no...
>>18348300Sorry, Whites. Looks like the Nigs win again.
Muhh reddit. Why do loser fags whine over this? A boot either looks good or it doesn't
What goes well with black jeans? i work construction.
Now that the dust has settled, what is the consensus on Iron Rangers?
>>18347914There's a niche of people (like me) who care more about the science of clothing than fashion per se and I enjoy his stuff. But ugliness, or rather not being extraordinarily hot, is definitely a limiting factor.
>>18345689I need a very water resistant durable approach comfy well-fit stable friendly to somewhat flat feet shoes which are good for sports, long walks and in slightly wild terrain and wet winter conditions +1..-5C.Which of the following should I pick?SALOMON Speedcross 6 GTXASICS GT-2000 12 GTXZAMBERLAN 1996 Vioz Lux Gtx RR Waxed Blackor anything SCARPAAre ASICS any good at water resistance compared to SALOMONs?
>>18348475Limmer standard boot
>>18348491Thanks for mentioning anything, but btw are those or Zamberlan made of genuine leather (animal died for it) if so then I'd rather wear synthetic materials. Are those Limmers like a cargo / heavy labour outside kind of boots?
>>18348492No animal dies for its leather. Buying real leather means less waste since the hides would otherwise be discarded when the animal is processed for meat.
>>18348494Are those the EU regulations?
>>18348492I think it's kinda funny how that stupid shift in leather marketing actually worked. A few years ago it was called imitation leather, and people looked down on it because it was just shit compared to the real stuff.Now they call it vegan leather. It's still shit, not worth half of what it costs, but people buy it because muh vegan.
>>18348386no black jeans on the jobsite
>>18348502Why
>>18348544because he is an incel with arbitrary rules and thinks he knows everything
>>18348500I literally don't care about the aesthetics or prestige of my shoes anymore I just want something practical and excellent to wear
>>18348582good. then buy real leather.
>>18348582take the jim green pill
>>18348553t. wears black jeans on the jobsite
Got the grizedales
>>18345689I'm looking for a pair of boots for everyday wear and long walks innacity/hiking. Was thinking of a pair of Irish Setter Hopkins. Thoughts? Will their waterproof nature make them too unbreathable for summer wear? What's a good insole?
>>18347094to be honest i havent worn much barefoot stuff at all, im a hikki neet and am getting shoes to go on walks with my family's dog, i have pretty average feet, theyre like 9 3/4 and have a 10.5ish length (will need to remeasure, its quite hare to measure your own foot without the device thing)i like the pull up leather ones so ill probably get those, even if most people probably think it and jim greens in general is kinda uggoi hope more companies do good quality barefoot stuff as time goes on
>>18348718excellent choice. hows the fit?
>>18348761Very nice, true to size
>>18348643Can't wait for my Barefoot African Troopers to arrive so I can confirm my JG size before ordering a customized pair or AR8 shitkickers. Still visually prefer the Rose Anvil upper, but they don't offer that in their customizer, so it's gonna probably have to be the AR8 unless they eventually add the RA pattern to their regular offerings.
>>18347803Would have been more interesting with a Goodyear welted sole and fit with heritage style. Now it's just another fancy hiking shoe.
>>18348643Horrible.
do you guys know if you can remove a boot's sock liner?
>>18348843>I literally don't care about the aesthetics>something practical???
>>18348860not without taking it apart first. why are you considering to do so?
>>18348718Very nice! Was considering those a while back but decided on Tricker's Burford instead since they were on sale. How far up are they gusseted? C&J is usually opposed to gusseting their boots for some reason.
>>18348911No one wants to wear toddler boots, no matter how much they think they don't care about aesthetics.
>>18348735redditor
Any idea where I can get something similar in blue?
are there any decent chukkas that don't have that shitty "crepe" sole on them without needing a full resole from the get go?i want something a little easier to wear daily vs my reddit wing iron rangers
>>18348983RW weekender chukkas
>>18348498It’s common sense you stupid nigger
>>18348498no its a thing called market forces
>>18347644If that's you, start by cutting your hair.
>>18348860dont really need the arch support they give, can you really not just get under it and dislodge it or something?
>>18348994Google the Indian leather industry.
do these chukkas look too big on my feet
>>18349172
>>18349172>>18349173>do these chukkas look too big on my feetYes. Ideally the lacing would be closer than that.
>>18349172You'd know better than us, is your big toe knuckle at the widest part of the shoe?
>>18349181yea im a size 11 they fit well but i just feel like they look like clown shoes on me>>18349179i don't feel like going through the effort of returning them. do you think it's okay if i wear them for a month until i can afford a new pair. or is it really noticeable
>>18349187Ignore the autist. They're fine. Nice shoes.
>>18348451>what is the consensus on Iron Rangers?honk-honk
>>18349187Normies don't care. Unless you're flip-flopping or dragging your heels, people don't give a shit about you. Also, if you returns are too much of a hassle for your generation, stop ordering shit online when you aren't sure how things will fit. Go to an actual store and try things on before paying for it.
>>18349016meant to reply to >>18348912 whoops
Do you prefer your boots to look clean and polished or have a worn patina look to them?
>>18349173What brand? Jim green? Looks terrible.
>>18348983ParkhurstCrockett and Jones if you got the dough
>>18349299jim green is kino
>>18349007>If that's you, start by cutting your hair.It's not, and my hair is that length, won't be cutting it though
>>18348451QC issues are a concern. In the last thread there's a photo posted of IRs with loose grain on the quarter panel.
>>18349436post the loose grain, becasue i don't see it
>>18349392>my hair is that lengthso you're transitioning.
>>18349534he doesnt look like a tranny, im a tranny and the skin doesnt look like he's on estrogentrannies dont really have much of an interest in fashion anyway and this board only really deals in men's fashion
what would be some decent options for winter boots that you can wear with a suit?i find that most winter boots are kinda bulky and look off with the rest of the fit (long coat + suit)
>>18349722c&j conistons
>>18349722white’s semi dress, brown or black dress
>>18349781forgot pic
I ordered my first pair of cowboy boots.Gonna start dressing more western.
>>18349781Nobody is wearing the semi-dress with a suit, >>18349728 is the way to go.
>>18349722What about this fit makes it look good? I really like it, but I don’t have the vocabulary to explain why. It can’t just be that his clothes fit, can it?
>>18349837its the black and the brown
>>18349844>>18349837black and brown for sure. the sports coat has a nice pattern, but the fit is impeccable. it's a little flowy and drappy, without being baggythe shirt is well fitting and the small knot works really well with the rounded collar
>>18349534Nope, just not insecure.
>>18348735Went to the store, tried a few pairs, leaning towards the 6" supersole 2.0s. Thoughts? Even though the latter pair isn't waterproof will they be fine for walking in the rain and stepping in the occasional puddle? Guy at the store told me as much but of course I'm taking it with a grain of salt. I really wish they made the 8" supersoles in black kek.
>Black jeans>Grey shirtWhat colour boots?
>>18349916burgundy
>>18349916grey boots
>>18345689I've been looking for some comfortable light duty boots for work. I do back room stocking for retail and am on my feet all day while sorting and moving boxes around. Normally I wear sneakers but I'd rather have boots. No steel toe needed and I'd prefer them to be on the lighter weight end. I was thinking pic related (jim green african rangers) would they be a good choice?
>>18350037>would they be a good choice?yep
which is gayer, chukkas or chelseas?
>>18350077elastics are gay
>>18349458Loose grain or grainbreak on IRs. Less than desirable either way. Loose grain is major QC issue for leather goods. Grainbreak less so but still sucks especially since it's hard to detect without some wear on the boot. Be warned.
>>18350077Chelsea by a mile. They even sound like the name of a tranny.
i have a very shitty $50 gift card, to nordstromi obviously know these florsheim boots are "shit" by all definitions, but at $99 on sale + the gift card, they're $50 bucks shipped. for something to just beat around in, they seem alright and a bit more formal than my iron rangers which are definitely not formal.
>>18350087not loose grain
anyone ever had their shoes worked on by one of the big youtube cobblers? Bedo's Leatherworks, Dan the Cobbler or Tr*nton and He*th?
>>18350103>Tr*nton and He*thliterally who?
>>18350127From Potter and Sons. Two brothers from Tennessee who used to be investment banker finance bros who decided to forsake the grind and start a shoe cobbling business. They just taught themselves how to cobble shoes and went for itHeath is an actually good cobbler, Trent sucks and all he does is shine the shoes mostly. There is actually nothing wrong with them, but they just feel so soulless. Like if cobbling shoes was a corporate job. Everything is clickbait, it's shilling products and making sponsored videos, to how much they try to hack the algorithm with video length and thumbnails and how soulless it feels. Then they started making sandals and shit to get even more moneyContrast them with a channel like Wyatt and Dad which is a family owned cobbler business where it runs in the family and they still try to have really good production value and it's very polished and will try to sell products, but it doesn't feel soulless, it feels endearing. Trenton and Heath just took all the fun out of watching craftspeople at work doing a dying skill and being able to appreciate the work. Instead it just feels like a marketing videoCompare them to someone like Steve and Bedo-s Leatherworks which is just him talking to a camera rambling on the whole video
>>18350120yes, i have had bedo's leatherworks replace the heels on my boots. steve is a great guy and my turnaround was quick, but i was a local at the time.
Does anyone have an id on the jacket in OP's pic btw?
>>18350077chelseas are literally for women
>>18350187https://divisionroadinc.com/products/dehen-1920-winston-jacket-a-moon-shetland-plain-twill-dark-sand-mix
>>18350037i wanted some jim greens but im really not a fan of the 2.5mm sock liner in the barefoot ones
>>18348718Lmao you don't even know how to tie laces properly, retard.
>>18350209How so?
>>18350213 >
>>18350234Nigga, people lace footwear in different patterns for different needs. The way that that other retard laced his is done for more looseness around the gap for easier flexing and pronation/supination of the foot. It's especially helpful if breaking in the boot is too tough. Stop being a faggot.
>>18350240NTA, but is there a guide to information like this? I'd like to increase my knowledge of lacing patterns and how they're useful in different ways.
>>18350199Ty anon
>>18350244NTA buthttps://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/lacing-hiking-boots.html
How long does it take to break in a new pair of boots and how often a day should you wear them?
>>18350103It's hard to tell from just a pic. Loose grain wherein the both sides are delaminating from each other looks very similar to leather where the grain is loose/fibers aren't as tight. Touching is the only sure way to tell. Since the delamination commonly happens during the tanning or lasting process, it's doubtful that those boots were like that when purchased unless they were factory rejects or something. Red Wing owns their own supply tannery so they're more inclined to use the looser grain to minimize loss.
>>18345689
>>18350314Depends on the boot and depends on your wear. I'd say if you can't wear them all day, just wear them for half the day. If that's still too uncomfortable you, just do like an hour or two of walking in them everyday. And if that's still too painful for you, then you fucked up by getting the wrong size.
How can I keep my boots from creasing too badly in storage in the area circled in red? I've worn them a few times now, and I'd like to even them out in that area during the times they're not on my feet.I bought these black plastic "shaft shapers", but I have rather large feet and these were definitely manufactured on a "one-size-fits-all" basis. If you can see in the opposite image, they only barely expand wide enough to keep pressure on the top of the shaft, and they're way too thin in the ankle area. Meanwhile my shoe trees don't extend that far up – and I've looked at boot trees, but for most of them even if they have an ankle shaft, it doesn't seem wide enough to eliminate creasing in that area.
>>18350386Store them laying down? Afaik all boot trees and those shaft support things never work, and the shaft getting rolls and creases is part of the deal with boots.
>>18350454I like the look of this plaid padding. Thing is, if you roll up your pants enough to make this visible, you look like a giant fag, so I guess it's kinda useless.
Give me a quality alternative to the Drive boot in a similar style and color but actually good quality
>>18350538>roll up your pants enough to make this visibleyou're supposed to stack above the top of the boot with Timberlands
>>18350541grant stone burro garrison
>>18350552Yeah, same thing. Faggot.
>>18350554Oh damn, these aren't bad
>>18350557No, it's not the same. Faggot.
>>18350386
>>18350541viberg taupe horsebutt
>>18350567Wearing your pants purposefully in a way that draws attention to your shoes is faggot behavior.You should get tested for AIDS.
>>18350346>Red Wing owns their own supply tannery so they're more inclined to use the looser grain to minimize loss.the opposite is true.if you're like wolverine and buying CXL from hormeme you have to use all of it, thats why wolverine is known for shitty CXLwhat he experiencing is not loose grain
Is Chromexcel just plain shit?
>>18350768Honestly? Yeah. Pull up is way over rated and most CXL creases like a motherfucker. The only leathers that should be used in boots are exotics, cordovan shell and rough out. I'm sick of pretending otherwise.
>>18350768overmemed by reddit. it is a decent leather by its own merits but there are definitely better leathers for boots out there
What's this leather called? I think it's severely underrated.
>>18350791moSHIT
>>18350792I only know of Moma that makes boots with that leather.
>>18350768pretty much outside of woorkbootsits just a massive meme and double shot mogs it without trying
>>18350794its a standard chrome tan milled/tumbled cowhide
>>18350791>>18350794You don't even know what leather it is. How would you know only they use it? It's fucking pebbled black leather or some shit. Pretty sure a lot of makers use it. I have a pair of Tricker's in black pebbled leather.
>>18350834(he's a moma shill) but don't ask him to post his pair because he doesn't own them
>>18350834>>18350837Why do you get so mad everytime someone mentions Moma, which is to continental Europe what Red Wing is to north America?
>>18350832>double shotIs that the special leather patented by Truman Boot Co?
>which is to continental Europe what Red Wing is to north Americahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYNXgFdhHxI
>>18350861the only thing truman patented is a special brand of mental illness
>>18350858>EuropeThe answer is in your post. It's kind of cringe that Non-Americans think they should be posting here.
>>18350862>>18350865Again, why do you hate Moma? It's just a good shoes brand bro. That's literally it.
>>18350598not throwing my money away on shitty viberg nonsense
you shill them without owning them, that is what makes your posts ring hollow and soulless
why is the museum of modern art making boots?
>>18350868I mean, it's not like euros are masculine. You don't really have any business wearing boots in the first place. And you probably should've started your own chan by now instead of riding America's coat tails like always. You don't see me posting on 2chan, do you?
>>18350768Good CXL is amazing. My Whites have some amazing CXL and the creases are tight and look great.I actually got the red calf leather on my Indys because I was worried about shitty CXL and those have ugly wide creases that look like shit. I got meme'd trying to not get meme'd
>>18350869You don't have money. I can tell by the way you write.
>>18350596Are these going to be enough? I looked at things like this and the ankle shaft doesn't look especially wide or anything.
>>18350870Because I own Astorflex. I don't need a second pair of boots, but I like to explore brands. I also posted pictures of American shoes in this general very often, but you never complained I was a shill. Post Moma, I'm a shill. Wow.>>18350872I have no idea what you're talking about bro. Rent free I guess.
>>18350878>Rent freeYou can't even post without using our expressions...
>>18350878you shill them without owning them, that is what makes your posts ring hollow and soulless and insincere
Do you guys realize that you are derailing your own beloved thread because I asked what leather it was and the boot was made by Moma? Yours is mental illness.
>>18350874Very stupid postVibergs are overpriced as fuck and they don't even look like work boots anymore with their super dense SPI that makes them virtually not resoleable. Viberg won't resole them and most cobblers can't stitch that tight of SPI unless they do in by hand Not gonna spend 1k on that when Whites are better and cost less
>>18350885bingo
Any brands similar to parkhurst?
>>18350878Gonna get the Astorflex chukka boots but I don't know if they're TTS or not. They don't do half sizes
>>18350879I'm using the English language because you are a monolingual monkey, so I adopt your expressions, yes, without a doubt.
>>18350888>Astorflex chukka bootsWhy have they become so popular? Honestly they make better models, but yeah, you can't go wrong anyway.
>>18350868What makes them good? Boots using ' "vintage effect" leather' are rarely good. Just like clothing that are pre-distressed are rarely good. Moma just looks like the boot equivalent of Balenciaga or something. Definitely wouldn't call it the European equivalent of Red Wing lel. Actually don't know what that would be.
>>18350885>>18350886>they write like niggers>they like unsophisticated, cheap thingsWhat a surprise. No doubt a couple of meathead White's employees covered in tattoos making minimum wage for working with thier hands.
>>18350889Must suck being from a country full of bitches who have to adopt another language to talk to someone who actually matters. :^)
>>18350886>>18350893ah, yes. I forgot these threads has schizo baiters as well
>>18350890I have some Clark's and like them. I don't care if they're not "muh heritage" or Rose Anshill approved But I want something a bit better now to upgrade
>>18350897Can't find the shift key, huh Jamal? A pair of Timberlands is right up your alley.
>momadoesn't own its own tannerydoesn't have a history of bootmakingbut its totally the red wing of europe guys
>>18350891Does pic related feature "vintage effect" to you? Moma is a relatively recent brand (unlike Astorflex which exists since the 1820s) that produces handmade leather shoes with high-quality constructions and materials. The boots look great. I don't get what's not to love. Also, the main and fundamental difference with Red Wing is that Red Wing makes a limited set of boots (typical feature of multinational companies' industrial serial production) which also implies that thousands of dudes around the globe are wearing the same exact thing, while Moma constantly varies their shapes and their materials, which is what a real artisan workshop naturally does, so that there are countless Moma models out there to pick from. Just do a quick Google search, the stores selling Momas are innumerable. In the end it's a pretty nice brand with an experimental and wabi-sabi take on the boot fashion, which something I highly appreciate. I've also touched and tried a pair in a shop in my area and they felt great. Didn't buy them because I don't really need them and they costed 400 bucks.
>>18350903>costed
>>18350898>I don't care if they're not "muh heritage"Actually they're Italian shoes and the company has been active since the year 1820, so it IS heritage.>>18350900>>18350904Stay mad, ameribro.
if anything paraboot is the redwing of europe
>>18350908Fine, I'll give you that. What Paraboot model do you like?
>>18350913i dislike everything fr*nch out of principle
>>18350915I see, you're an angry American nationalist. I understand. I would also vote for Trump if I lived there.
>>18350908The only thing stopping me from getting a pair of Paraboots is not know how to size them
>>18350906Talking about Clark's but yeah
>18350899what a way to spend a weekend
>>18350926Astorflex chukkas are TTS
>>18348718nice, do you feel the goretex or whatever it is inner lining?
>>18350928he gets mad often
>>18350768CXL can look great if you get it from a company that is selective with their clicking. If you cheap out you get what you pay for.>>18350885>Whites are betterlol>and cost lessAt least this part is true.
if CXL leather can be good or bad, how do you tell if it's bad? can you figure it out just from feeling it?
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>>18350885nigger - you asked for a quality boot in similar style and color. i provided an example of just that, now you complain about cost? here, try thursdays and then fuck off and stop wasting my time you slavic fuck.
>>18350244https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/lacingmethods.htm
>>18350087>Reeee my cow hide boots have creases.If you dont want the risk of creasing like that buy calf leather.
Martens replacements that are good quality? Looking for matte brown boots.
