/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - CONISTON EDITIONWhat do I need to care for my boots?>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)>Horsehair brush ($10-15)>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest themHow do I deal with x stain?>mud: allow it to dry then brush off>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're goodno. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.>Are Thursdays any good?no.Manufacturer Red Flags>Luxury>Bespoke>Sustainable>Vegan>Unknown leather source>Made in Chyna/Mexico/IndonesiaBoot Red Flags>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)>C*rk/C*lastic>Zippers>Non gusseted tongues>Excessive/unnecessary seams>Combination/mixed material heelsBoot Brands NO>Turdsdays>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters>any Whatsapp makers in the far eastPREV>>18345689
>>18351003It's literally impossible to tell in the finished product until you wear it that's why the term "cxl lottery" is a thing.
>>18351007what happens if it's shitty? is it harder to break in or somethin?
>>18351009the creasing will look horrible, and most likely uneven between both pairs. You can generally assume that a thicker hide will likely crease better, but that's the only real indicator you'll get until you wear them.
>>18351009If it's crap you'll get creases that take on this long, veiny look.
>>18351009no it presents in an undesirable manner
>>18351015is the stiffness/softness an indicator of that or is it really just spinning the roulette wheel?>>18351018ah, okay, that does look a bit wonky, how long does it take to get like that?
>>18351023ticking timebomb
>>18351003you literally have no idea how any piece of leather will crease until you crease it, which you can't do on leather unless you buy it. that's why its the "CXL lottery". You win some, you lose some. But regardless, you're stuck with them>>18351009It's really only aesthetic. the creasing looks awful and loose and wide compared to the desirable kind of tight narrow creaseslook at this pic. these look terrible. that CXL creasing is NOT what you want in your boots, but you have no way of knowing it will happen or not until you actually start wearing them
>>18351023>how long does it take to get like that?Not long. We're talking hours to maybe a couple of days, not weeks.
>>18351025>>18351026thank you anons, i am enlightened
The biggest part about getting good CXL is getting the highest OZ CXL you can. There will never be cheap thin CXL that doesn't crease like shit.
>>18351065makes sense since my whites are thicc bois and creased beautifully
I want to buy a pair of chromexcel shoes. Been looking at these for a while. Not got much experience with good shoes. I'm in Australia so I can't return if I fuck up the sizing. How am I meant to size my shoes properly?
>>18351077what you posted is cordovan though
>>18351077If it isn't already on their website, email the company and ask them the measurements of the last.
>>18351025>these look terribleThey'd look terrible even without the creasing.
Do you still wear boots in the summer?
>>18351146Jungle boots with breathable nylon fabric.
>>18351202
Red Wing 10877 new on Ebay for $250 or Whites Perry Select 8 inch for $400? I know the Whotes are better, but $150 better? Red Wings are so cool.
>>18351025>>18351007>>18351065That kind of creasing isn't limited to CXL, though. It can happen to oil tanned leather, too. Loose fibers in the grain the main contributing factor to those unsightly wrinkles more than how it was tanned. picrel are Iron Rangers that use oil-tanned leather.
>>18351146Summer is the only time I wear my nicer boots. My nicer boots I mean my Thursday Captains.
>>18351009>what happens if it's shitty?They get ugly wrinkles. Some say that such panels age faster than the rest of the boot, but I'm almost certain that it's reddit fuddlore and no real science to back it up. It's comes with the nature of leather goods. Some people don't mind or may even like it.>is it harder to break in or somethin?They tend to be softer so those panels will actually be easier to break in in my opinion.
>>18351023>is the stiffness/softness an indicator of that or is it really just spinning the roulette wheel?More the latter than the former. If they were really going to town during the lasting, you MIGHT tell a difference in stiffness but I doubt most end consumers could tell on a finished product. Putting some wear on the leather is really the only way to know. > how long does it take to get like that?Depends on the animal, where they cut from, and how you wear it. If you wear your boots everyday and walk around a lot, you can probably notice in a week. If you barely wear ever put any miles on them, you may never notice.
>>18351239It can happen to any cow hide. If you don't want the risk of creasing like that buy calf, or corrected cow hide (zug, scotch etc).
>>18351257It can happen to any leather. The best way to minimize encountering it is by choosing the cuts of leather wear the grain is usually tighter. This is why the shells from horsehide are usually the most desired cuts (and why CXL from anywhere else will never compete).
I’m assuming a rebuild will rectify the veiny look. Is that correct?
just buy kuduafricanized antelope supremacy
>>18351294No, and if it did it wouldn't be worth it. Either learn to live with it like a cuck or try again with a different pair and hope you don't get cucked again.
>>18351298I didn’t know this was a possibility until today. Thanks for helping me learn about it. The previous thread an anon said that rough out is better. If it the same leather, would rough out develop the same creases? Or would the creases just be on the inside of the boot?I’ve lucked out on the lottery so far, and I’m considering a pair of with rough out next.
>>18351294No, nothing will fix it, it's a characteristic of the leather the boot is made out of. It isn't a flaw, some people just don't like it.
>>18351300Rough out doesn't really crease. Not much, if at all. It acts kind of like shell cordovan, since cordovan is also the underside of the hide.
What boots do you wear in summer?
>>18351340Mostly Chukkas. But I can wear whatever boots I want during summer since it almost never reaches above 25C.
>>18351307>since cordovan is also the underside of the hide.It is not, sir. Only weirdos being contrarians use the reverse side of shell.
>>18351340You don't wear boots in summer unless you're an actual faggot and a manchild. You wear loafers and boat shoes.
Boots ?You mean chelsea boots with a zipper right?The rest can go to the toilet thanks, especially the laced nigger shoes
>>18351300>would rough out develop the same creases? If they did, you wouldn't see it on the outside. I wouldn't know since I've never really looked inside a roughout boot with sufficient wear to say otherwise. > I’m considering a pair of with rough out next.Do it. I also recommend you look up waxed flesh which I personally prefer.
>open boot thread>post best thread is now complete
Which chukka boot looks better the Crocket and Jones or the TLBhttps://us.crockettandjones.com/collections/mens-chukka-boot-collection/products/chiltern-snuff-suedehttps://www.tlbmallorca.com/products/boots-picasso-suede-polo-brown-308
Anyone here actually owns a pair of Crown Northampton desert boots? They get recommended a lot here but never seen anyone posting their pair.
>>18351407i got a pair of their sneakers before they got a lot more expensive in the past 5 or so years. If the quality is still the same, they should be good.
>>18351403C&J since it's less pointy.
>>18351409Having difficulty finding out if they actually use a leather insole or not. On the site it says "Leather lined footbed". Which usually means it's not leather but with a thin leather lining on top of whatever they use as the insole. But it seems too pricey for them to be doing that.
>>18351403C&J
>>18351419you can even see a leather midsole in the images.
>>18351239nobody said it was exclusive to CXL it just happens much more often with cxl hence the lottery term
>>18351257>If you don't want the risk of creasing like that buy calfLolPic are my calf Indys. These aren't that bad comparatively, but the other boot isn't like this It happens to anything
>>18351529>It happens to anythingBut less so to calf leather. And less so to cordovan leather.
>>18351540Cordovan doesn't crease, dummy dumb
>>18351005Anyone have experience with Solovair's sizing? I wear 10.5, and the general recommendation is to size down a half step. That seems fake.
>>18351543It does. You just lack the eye zoom to be able to see it.
>>18351529Is that creasing not normal?
>>18351570It's fine compared to a lot of the CXL stuff you see But this is what the other boot looks like. You can't ask for better creasing than the left boot. That's as good as it gets. The right by comparison looks like shit only because the left looks so good
>>18351573Definitely left looks better, but I don't think the right looks that bad.
>>18351080Nah, it's the crimson chromexcelhttps://www.grantstoneshoes.com/products/longwing-crimson-chromexcel
>>18351529>>18351573That is completely normal creasing, you can not complain about that. It's neither loose grain nor grainbreak.
In the court of the crimson chromexcel
Chromincel
>>18351631>>18351619lel
>>18351631its over
This straight line creasing looks terrible
seidel tannery > hormeme
These Vibergs leather is creased and gross right from the start kek
Got a pair of Docs as a christmas gift.Foot size is snug and feels correct but for some reason loose around the ankle even when I tightened the lacing as tight as it could.Any suggestions or is that how they normally fit? I'm used to having a snug boot throughout
>>18351701>but for some reason loose around the ankle even when I tightened the lacingthey build their boots for their market: fat leftists with cankles
How would you guys style cherry red Docs or Solovairs? I don't want to stick to pure skinhead stuff, and I don't want to look like a Bushwick hipster.
>>18351710>How would you guys style cherry red Docs or Solovairs?I wouldn't
>>18351713Very helpful, thank you for the productive advice Mohammed
>>18351710I wouldn't own cherry red docs or solovairs and neither should anyone else
>>18351722Happy to help, ma'am
>>18351631RIP in piece, cxl...
>>18351640Don't look bad to me.
>>18351640How does this even happen? Looks very unnatural. Nice boots though
do anons have any tips for breaking in boots? im getting my first pair in a few days and ive never owned leather boots before
>>18351744Moleskin pads for the places that they start out tight, go for a 30 minute walk in them every other day
>>18351529That's just normal creasing, bro. It's not like >>18351025 that is caused by using inferior cuts of leather.
>>18351746do they make it easier on your feet or something?
>>18351710Dark indigo jeans, dark green trousers.
Are zerrows engineers any good? Kinda like the squareish flat toe box.
>>18351749Doesn't necessarily make things less uncomfortable but it prevents blisters and won't negatively impact breaking in. If you're worried about discomfort, you kind of have to suck that up, it's necessary.
>>18351744wear them in short incrementally increasing amounts
Stridewise told me to buy a pair of Captains
>>18351146Yes, and I live in Socal, they're more comfortable than sneakers. Everyone could but they choose not to and blame the weather.
Custom TLB Mallorca black suede chukkas+matching belt has been delivered :3
>>18351795
>>18351795>>18351797boring boring boring
>>18351795books are gay and the last wouldnt be my choice for a chukka i hope you enjoy them
>>18351744Wear them until they hurt, then give it a rest. Try again the next day and wear them a little longer. Repeat until they're broken in I have a pair of Cheaney loafers that took ages to break in. I would bring a different pair of shoes to work to swap halfway through the day
>>18351788Of course he did. He's on their payroll as part of their marketing team
>>18351788Best boots money can buy
>>18351388What about prefer about waxed flesh? I’ve thought about that too. I like the look of rough out a lot, and if it decreases the chance of showing that you lost the CXL lottery, then it sounds like a win-win.
The chukka is the coolest and manliest shoe in existence. Chelsea boots are too feminine and gay, if you wear sneakers you need to grow up, oxfords and derbys are boring, service boots make it look like you are compensating, loafers are for twinks that take it from the behind. Nothing gives you the cool, rugged, masculine, but also put together appearance like a nice suede chukka.Chukkas. Are. King.
>>18351581not bad. definitely fooled me into thinking they were cordovan from the pici'd get them
>>18351908>The chukka ishomosexual
>>18351908i took the chukka-pill earlier this year and they're my favorite shoesi'm already looking for another pair
>>18351795>>18351797Looking good
>>18351795>>18351797these look really good, brother. enjoy them and post pics here as they break in so we can see them agehow did you size?
>>18351908True. Personally starting to think that chukkas(around 5" or whatever) and 8" boots are peak boot heights and that the more classic 6" boot is actually the worst of both worlds.
>>18351928I always get boots in my regular sneaker size unless the website specifically says to size down. I have already ordered chukkas from them in my regular shoe size and they fit great.
>>18351934did the owner of TLB email you himself to ask you your sizes? he did for me, and recommends you a size based on how other brands fit you. thought that was really cool and great customer service. he also threw in extra insoles incase sizing wasn't perfect that i could try rather than do a complicated returnvery cool brand
>>18351937Yeah he got in touch with me and asked me to measure my foot. He recommended I get a size 8 UK. I normally wear size 9.5 UK for everything so I thought that sounded too small. So he shipped me a 9.5 and said if that's to big we could exchange. It fit good for me so I kept it
>>18351640This looks like shell cordovan. If you take a brush to those they will look fantastic in a couple minutes.
Nice sugary break. I won the cxl lotto, luckily.
>>18351950what the fuck are those panels jesus
>>18351951...problem?
>>18351379In elementary school, I knew a kid who wore Velcro and didn’t learn how to tie his shoes until the 4th grade. This looks like something he would post
>>18351573yeah left is more in line of what you expect on calf, right looks more like my CXL indy.
>>18351954>youvs the guy she tells you not to worry about
>>18351965god these are hideous
>>18351965looks worse than a jim green boot
Why does everyone hate Jim Green??
>>18351965These might be more traditional, but I prefer my Grant Stones.
>>18351986They don't. You just saw one person saying it and your incel chud orange Hitler energy took care of the rest.
>>18351992I just wanted to exaggerate a bit, it seems like the consensus is that they're good value but look ugly as sin, especially if you get em in reddit brown with green laces
Are danner boots any good?
>>18351772Yea they're supposed to be pretty good, I was looking at a pair of their horsehide monkey boots.
>>18351986They are ugly but cheap and functional, nothing wrong with them really.
>>18351986Most regulars on this general actually like Jim Greens. I shit-talk JG, but not because they're bad. AFAIK they're great value for the price and very comfortable. But thte's a couple of posters that insist that the toddler shoe shape of razorbacks actually looks good.
Want
The arch of my left foot starts hurting after a few minutes wearing boots. Will this fix that?
>>18352083i think they're cute if you have small feet but im size 10 so rip lol
Rose Anvil told me to buy Grant Stone boots
>>18351986Sour grapes from Iron Ranger owners who could've saved a buck for the same quality.
>>18352201I like Jim Green. Gonna eventually buy the Numzaan. But Red Wing seems like higher quality to me. Jim Green looks very unfinished in a lot of places, and they use celastic heel counters while Red Wing uses leatherboard. Also Red Wing has better lasts.Dunno why anyone would buy the new Jim Green Iron Ranger copypaste boot instead of the original Iron Ranger. Numzaan, Razorback, and African Ranger etc are fully Jim Greenesque though and therefore totally worth it since you can't get those kind of boots anywhere else.
>>18351986They're good for what they are, durable rugged no nonsense footwear. But then they got hyped by Youtubers who just had to infect the designs with their faggotry. Barefoot shoes are great and all, but they ain't pretty and Jim Green's overall finish isn't pretty either, so don't try make it some workwear heritage fashion boot and think they look stylish.
Who else 270mm perfectly optimized human feet? Don't tell me there are those who are complete abominations on this board...
>>18352138>smelly insoleprob not
>>18352294My foot is 260mm
Talk me out of getting a pair of heschung ginkgo boots.
>>18352294> tfw 270mm left foot 275mm right foot
>>18352294wish i had asian feet
All these boots look so fruity. Can you guys post some non gay boots please. For men, not homos and reddit basedboys.
>>18352294high density girlfeet confirmed
look at this abortion https://www.shopalexandernoel.com/collections/mens-goodyear-welted-shoes/products/the-split-toe-joe-waxed-brown?variant=43673818857684
>>18352387
>>18352387>>18352388Looks like a woman's shoe
>>18352333What's the difference between these gay boots and all the other gay boots? Do you think the Timbs logo makes them for real men?
>>18352333>mobile uservery gay>fake plastic weltvery very gay>mystery mutt tannagevery very very gay>poly sherpa shitvery very very very gay
>>18352449No gay stitching. No gay thin toe. No gay creases. No gay shape. Simple as, this boot has no gay shit.
>>18352493that's already been debunked sweety>>18352475
boots for the straight man
>>18352513That shit is gay with all the fruity stitchingand whack toe. Please someone please post some non gay boots. Like this.
>>18352513>managed to include a clown toe for the moc, a difficult feat>>18352516>fake weltinstant gay
>>18352138Get the nicks delta arch
>>18352517What is a welt. Only a homosexual would even k ow or care what that is. Please post boots with no gay stuff please.
>>18352517>managed to include a clown toethose are EEE
>>18352522i'm talking about the excessively upturned toe. look at the 875 for a comparison, nice and flat
>>18352522Having clown feet should be illegal
compared to this upturned toe
its not upturned the outside its sloped downwards and creates that effect visually
it is upturned because the apron is too short
the apron edge reaching the tip of the toe is vulgar
>>18352538That's just a moc toe
>>18352534Smol moc toes need one going down the front too(whatever they're called) in order to make it look good like >>18352308 or the Grant Stone Ottawa etc.
>>18352539vulgar.
Crockett&Jones is having a sale on a lot of nice shoes and boots by the way>https://eu.crockettandjones.com/collections/sale-allSpeaking of boots with apron stitching, their Indiana boot is a nice one.
>>18352513The subject and composition of that photo compels me to believe otherwise.
>>18352569the inherent homosexuality of fallen leaves?
>>18352571That and the implication that somebody walked out into the middle of the woods and took that picture barefoot; or the implication that somebody lugged a pair of boots to the middle of the woods just to take a picture of it.Either of those scenarios suggest someone seeking validation and is likely not masculine.
>>18352581Or they were being paid?
>>18352586That's a wide and powerful rim. What are those?
>>18352592Grenson "triple welt" garbage
>>18352602Britbongs saw the ridiculous looking American PNW double row welt stitching and then declared war?Let the battle commence.
>>18352652It's not 3 rows of stitching its 3 entire welts. Im guessing two of them are only cosmetic
Green suede. Yay or nay?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh-Ye93GCow I always think of this scene when im wearing boots to my new white collar job.
>>18352659>Im guessing two of them are only cosmeticno the welt is welted to the welt its like a skyscraper the load flows down
>>18352671loden suede fucks
>White's>Red Wing>Nicks>Viberg>White's>Red Wing>Nicks>Viberg>White's>Red Wing>Nicks>Viberg>(multiply by infinity)Why are you guys only able to talk about four brands? Surely they aren't the only good makers of shoes in the world, right?
does anyone here actually own a pair of boots
>>18352962I own two pairs. C&J chukka and Tricker's derby boots.
>>18352962i own too many
How do I condition the welt on suede boots without getting product onto the suede? Also should I condition the lining?
>>18352518I’ve been waiting for my delta arch for over a month now. Hope long did it take to get yours?
>>18352962Five pairs. Grant Stones and White’s
>>18352969>>18352990How many times have you resoled them?
Where the fuck can I find a good quality chukka that has the classic Americana look but doesn't have a shitty crepe sole? I really like this look but don't want a crepe sole. All the higher quality chukkas are too sleek and dressy for what I'm looking for.
Chukka boots and shorts combo
>>18353005
>>18353005>>18353022astorflex if poor
>>18353005Try checking out Clarks. They're not too expensive and decent quality for the money.
>>18353023Astorflex have a crepe sole. The pic you posted is not even astorflex....>>18353025Clarks have a crepe sole.....
>>18353005Maybe this one? 33% off. Dunno if they have your size though>https://trickers.com/products/aldo-chukka-boot-husk-eco-buck
>>18352993One of my Grant Stones had a leather outsole, had to get it resoled after using it for a year. Rubber outsoles are anywhere between one to three years old and they're still going strong
>>18353005>the classic Americana lookLMFAO hard on the cultural appropriation, eh? That's one of the most traditional shapes of European footwear, you fucking retard.>>18353023Astorflex is top-quality, they just don't charge as much as other brands because they're a small family-run workshop. They're very humble.>>18353093Then what it is? AI? It's Astorflex, they can make the same model using different soles.https://www.careofcarl.co.uk/en/astorflex-greenflex-dainite-desert-boot-dark-khaki-suede
>>18352671>suedeWhy would you spend more money for worse leather?
>>18352969>>18352993Never. Bought my chukkas like 1,5 years ago and my Tricker's maybe 6 months ago. Both are dainite so it's probably gonna be a few years until I would need to resole them. Maybe I'll just trash them instead at that time though.
>>18353005Dunno if I'd call chukkas Americana lel. More like Britbongia. But a lot of American companies make them without crepe sole. Parkhurst, Oakstreet bootmaker, Grant Stone, Alden, Allen Edmonds, Red Wing, and probably a bunch of the smaller Mexican brands I'm too lazy to try and remember.
>>18352916Nothing else is worth discussing when it comes to boots
>>18352962Up to 5. Two pairs of Whites, two Red Wings and some Aldens I own way more dress shoes than boots
https://theshoesnobblog.com/good-leather-creases-a-lot/https://theshoesnobblog.com/the-delusion-of-the-uncreased-leather/Is this guy legit or just another angry youtube tryhard?
>>18353005Just get Clarks. They have a model without a crepe sole
>>18353130pointy little elf shoes
>>18353126Why?
>>18353130I can't stand this guy. He's insufferably pretentious, sounds like a literal retard when he talk and insists upon himself
>>18353132It took five seconds for you to reply, you dumb amerimutt. Try to read ten words next time.
>>18353134I got the same impression. Should I just completely ignore him and his website, or does he have at least some truthful content to check out?
>>18353135i did, he is a little elf so he is probably incorrect
>>18353109i agree, astorflex is pretty good. But i'd take the Alden every day of the week if double or more the price is no concern.
>>18353136There's nuggets of wisdom in there somewhere. Like anything you should take the good and ignore the rest I just remember him coming on Parisian Gentleman as a guest and he was so insufferable, especially compared to Hugo who has no ego at all.
>>18352962he's on to us...
>>18352652Grenson seem to be obsessed with massive welts.>>18352659I think it's just a storm welt and a very large mid sole.
>>18352592>>18352602>>18352652>>18352659>>18352673>>18353174Wait until you see what krauts do...
>>18351005Boot Brands NO>Turdsdays>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters>any Whatsapp makers in the far eastSo what are the boot brands YES?
>>18353221W H I T E ' S
>>18353221Either buy White's if you're North American or Crockett and Jones if you're Euro Otherwise fuck off
>>18353221>>18352916No one can't explain why though. Anything else is L-LE BAD!
>>18353226Crockett and Jones doesn't make boots any better than other relevant European brands. It's just one among many.
>>18353229Didn't ask Buy White's and C&J or get out
>>18352916because these are the boots people own and wish to discuss.you are free to start a discussion about other brands, but if you can't post your pair then the discussion is moot
>>18353232Where's the pic of your pair? You can use https://warosu.org/fa/ to link it, if needed.
>>18353238
It's pretty much agreed upon that PNW bookmakers make the best North American boots. Japan makes the best Asian boots (and best in the world depending who you ask)What about Europe? Is there a definitive country?
>>18353241It's always a split between Italy and UK.
>>18353229In that upper price racket they'll all be more or less comparable. The debate is who's considered a relevant brand.
>>18353248idk, Red Wing makes 300€ boots that are kinda ass, and yet /btg/ considers it relevant.
>>18353248>In that upper price racket they'll all be more or less comparableNo, they won't. Le "you get what you pay for" is a meme.
>>18353246>>18353241What's interesting is a lot of countries have domestic bootmaking industries that you don't even see or hear about Like Argentina for example apparently makes the best polo boots in the world by a brand called Casa FaglianoNever heard of them here or anywhere, nowhere on social media, but apparently their polo boots are world classMany such cases
>>18353226But C&J doesn’t have good arch support tho
>>18353256Whites it is then
>>18353253Unfortunately according to some anons you are not allowed to discuss a brand unless you post a picture of a pair of boots that you own from said brand. It's genuinely fascinating.
i would post about my jim greens but anons have made me too self conscious even though they're not reddit colored
>>18353182Cor blimey.>>18353256British cordwainers lol at the concept of arch support.
>>18353263>British cordwainers lol at the concept of arch supportBased.
>>18353093>....>....Uh oh. We have a retard/femme on our hands.
White's are such a dead meme at this point. It doesn't help that the people posting about them are all over weight or desk jockey fags. But, yeah, post another picture of your loggers with the ridiculous kilties you didn't know people laugh at you for.
>>18353275post your boots
>>18353276Find your shift key.
>>18353275Ah, yes. Another post seething without post their own boots
>noboots crying about other people's bootsa tale as old as time
>>18353281Now find the period key and use it reliably.
>>18353284>>18353278Of all your lame attempts to force a meme, this is easily your worst Are you even trying anymore of did you just run out of ideas?
>White's semi-dress
>>18353287>writing like a white person is a meme to brown-eyed people
>>18353289What a way to start the new year
>>18353291Anon, I start every year whiter than you.
how does he do this for usually?
>>18353275To be honest I'm not surprised they're a niche brand.
Gucci loafers
If you're wearing White's and you're not working an intense manual labor job, you're on the same level as a ghetto rat thug weaing Timberlands.
>>18353303That's the picture that made me change my mind about spending nine hundred bucks on White's
>>18353304No point getting them when cheaper options that are better exist Most Gucci loafers are cemented, Bedo's Leatherworks and Trenton and Heath have both shown cemented Guccis And they're liked with canvas, not leather. You can get Carminas for 1/3 the price that are blake stitched and leather lined
>>18353305Didn't know this personally affected you
>>18353307>No point getting them when cheaper options that are better existB-but... you GeT WhAt yOu pAy 4 !!!
And let's face it, the White's posters ITT are all redditors (probably got here around 2016). That tells you everything you need to know.
>>18353312Post your boots.
Crockett and Jones. Accept no other substitutes.
>>18353315Not a rebuttal, tourist.
>>18353311Everyone knows this isn't true and never really has been
>>18353312So this is just what you do all day? This is your life?
>>18353318That's cool. But post your boots. I want to see the boots of a real workin' man that's been on 4chan since 2003.
>>18351545bump
>>18353323I never claimed to be a manual laborer. I just pointed out what you aren't aand that it's pathetic that you larp so hard. Are you following the simple discussion now? Need any more hints?
>>18353326Post again, this is fun
>>18353321It's what murritards on this board usually affirm to claim the superiority of their reddit brands over European ones.
>>18353328so you take bathroom breaks or do you just pee in a diaper? you never leave
>>18353327lmao
>>18353327So you don't need hints? You know what's happening to you right now? Got it.
i cant imagine being on /fa/ for 8 years, youd think at some point youd have good enough fashion sense to just not use the board
>>18353326Okay post your Yeezy's or whatever you wear sitting around at home all day shitposting on 4chan.
>>18353332great! now post again I've got this little monkey trained
>>18353330Let's see your t-shirt and g-shock fit, manlet.
>>18353334Not a femme, so I don't sit around taking pictures of my footwear acquisitions for Insta/Reddit. I've got 2 pairs of Parkhursts, 1 pair of Red Wings, 2 pairs of Grant Stones, a pair of Bellevilles, 2 pairs of Danners and a pair of Matterhorns.
>>18353338Reply again little monkey, you'll get a treat
>>18353335>>18353340>>18353327>this is the only power he'll ever hope to feel in his lifePost your whites
>>18353341you did it! good little monkey reply again, I know you will
>>18353339Why do you have so many boots if you aren't a manual laborer. You a larper or something?
>>18353346>no uNice one. You argue like a woman. Post your Insta.
>>18353240All White's?
>>18353351whites, viberg, wesco
Why are you so angry?
>>18353305Depends which whites boots you're wearing. The MP and semi dress for example was obviously not made for tough manual labour nor do they look out of place in the modern world, at least not the MP lel
>>18353353How do the Vibergs compare to the White's?
>>18353356They're much easier on the feet during my stroll around Whole Foods.
>>18353316I would agree if they would fucking start gusseting their boots. For this reason alone it's gonna have to be Tricker's for me.
you see the same behavior across a variety of boards>/o/: nocar goes you can't own an M series BMW because you're not a race car driver>/k/: nogunz goes you can't own this sight cause you're not an operator>/fa/: noboots goes you can't own whites cause you're not a labourer>>18353356vibergs are mid, prefer the white's over them any day
>>18353359>he gets called a larper on every single board he visitsMaybe it's time to take a hint and change your personality.
nah its all noboots/nogunz/nocar doing it so their opinion is irrelevant like the clown they are
>>18353356ok i'll give the vibergs some credit: the 2030 is a nice looking last but the whole "vibergs are always flawless, perfectly finished etc" isn't true at all, look at the inside row of welt stitching on the vibergs, its almost on top of each other compared to the clean two row on the whites
>>18353362
>when your retarded kilties end up wearing holes in the top of your bootGreat fashion choice.
why the fuck are you guys arguing over if it's larping to own certain boots, shouldn't you just care about if it looks good? if you're buying boots purely to use them just go to the leather boot thread on /out/
>>18353376(its the annual noboot meltdown episode)
Why does the leather on Whites always look so shit?
>>18353370>>18353374lel I was gonna note that too. Nice boots but kilties are so stupid. I think there is a reason why the facings end where they do so it's probably not a good idea to have leather sticking down below that. Cut off those kilties so they don't extend below the facings is what I would do if I were you
>>18353377is this really an annual thing lol?
>>18353385more of a bi monthly thing, same pattern every time>is noboots (always)>comes in with a loaded question>you can't wear X brand because you are Y>always seething, always sour graping
>when people say things i can't defend myself against, they're having a meltdown
yes its a meltdown when you're begging the question
>yes its a meltdown when you're begging the question
>>18353393>>18353394>>18353396Talk to your own faces, like real men. This is pathetic.
>>18353398>watches cartoons and posts on a fashion board>real man
>>18353249Exactly, 300 is mid tier, double that if you want good boots.
>>18353401300-400 = good boots. Go beyond that if you want good AND fancy boots. We all know deep in our hearts that we never really had to go beyond Red Wings. But we wanted finer stitching, fancier lasts, and esoteric leather or whatever. All the things only we and ants will ever notice.
Does anyone have a chart that lists different leather types based on their durability? I would figure vegtan/boxcalf would be near the bottom
>>18353432even synthetic is better than vegtan
>>18353432>I would figure vegtan/boxcalf would be near the bottomexplain your reasoning
>>18353432What's wrong with boxcalf?
>>18353432I imagine it would be hard to make such a list since durability is dependent on multiple factors (thickness, stretchability, tanning method, oil content, if it's roughout etc.)
does more oil mean less durable?
>>18353438>>18353439Boxcalf tends to be pretty thin around the toebox and more prone to scratches there from what little I know
>>18353446More durable. It would increase water resistance and mke it less brittle.
>>18353391there is always some form of begging beforehandthe same request for boots multiple times, if anyone is actually recommends anything they get told it somehow doesn't fit his vague criteria, because of some weird arbirtary reasonthe real reason he's shooting everything down is because he can't afford anything and that just makes him seethethen the same old trolling begins
>>18353453>arbirtary
>>18353451what about that like pull up sort of leather that doesnt have super uniform color? is that more durable since it has a lot of oil and stuff?
>>18353240those on the right look soo coolneed...if there will be a 900 bucks hole in my account by the end of the month, it'll be YOUR fault
>>18353449you didn't consider the fact that calf is actually denser than cowhide
>>18353464Yeah a lot of calf leathers can be really tough actually since the grain is tighter than full grown cow leather. It's used heavily by britbong makers for their outdoors/country boots like the Tricker's Stow boot which from what I've heard uses quite a rigid and durable calf leather.
>>18353446context?
new>>18353495>>18353495new>>18353495>>18353495
>>18353376Reasons to own boots (any kind):Because you want them.
>>18351545>>18353324Go true to size and put an insole of your choice in.
>>18353229C&J is definitely a notch above the likes of Carmina, Tricker's and Cheaney in a similar price bracket. They have much stricter QC than those 3, and they can afford it being much larger than Tricker's and Cheaney at least, not sure how Carmina is doing but they are quite big too.
>>18353534How does putting an insole help? From what I've read, the sizing issue is with the *length* of the boot.
Why are the facings on US boots so far apart? You guys all look like you got chronic potato feet
