/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - SUPERIOR CONSTRUCTION EDITIONWhat do I need to care for my boots?>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)>Horsehair brush ($10-15)>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them and rest themHow do I deal with x stain?>mud: allow it to dry then brush off>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're goodno. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.>Are Thursdays any good?no.Manufacturer Red Flags>Luxury>Bespoke>Sustainable>Vegan>Unknown leather source>Made in Chyna/Mexico/IndonesiaBoot Red Flags>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)>C*rk/C*lastic>Zippers>Non gusseted tongues>Excessive/unnecessary seams>Combination/mixed material heelsBoot Brands NO>Turdsdays>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters>any Whatsapp makers in the far eastPREV>>18351005
>implying Santa works for a reddit boot company
The chukka is the coolest and manliest shoe in existence. Chelsea boots are too feminine and gay, if you wear sneakers you need to grow up, oxfords and derbys are boring, service boots make it look like you are compensating, loafers are for twinks that take it from the behind. Nothing gives you the cool, rugged, masculine, but also put together appearance like a nice suede chukka.Chukkas. Are. King.
>>18353491>>18353456
>>18353508oil tan will be more water resistant BUT the oilier surface means dust will stick to it more than a dry tan, which will get into the flex points and wear down faster if not regularly brushed. different leathers will be more suited for different uses
>>18353506No lie detected except about service boots.
Post YOUR favourite boots.
>>18353516
>>18353519>the guy your girl is checking out while you're wearing your whites semi-dress
>>18353516Truman java waxed flesh
>>18353529Is it true that the Radnor is not gusseted at all? Are the rumours true?>https://eu.crockettandjones.com/products/radnor-rust-m-grain?
>>18353446Using oil based conditioners is usuay recommended to use more sparingly. I've heard it argued (in outdoors/hiking circles) that mink oil in particular can make the leather too soft if used too frequently, which could make it more susceptible to damage from sticks and rocks.Tldr use wax for regular maintenance and water proofing. Oil based once or twice a year when you do a more thorough cleaning, depending on how much you use your boots. There's also a variety of conditioners with various types of oil and combinations for different leathers like more sensitive fine leathers goods.You don't want to use the smelly tar based stuff for hiking boots on your Hermes handbag.
>>18353546You're a euro and it's scotch grain. You're not going to be doing anything in these boots that requires a gusset.
>>18353506>he posted it again
>>18353549russian calf, and mto can get half gusset tongue on request
>>18353552>absolute cinemaScorsese hasn't had a good movie in decades.
>>18353564>euroNot gonna matter.
>>18353565i think its just like a reaction image/twitch emote or something
>>18353516I love my Indys because the style is cool and the Trubalance last is a wonder fit for my feet Alden's Trubalance and White's modified Barrie lasts are my favorites
>>18353549I'm a simple man. My boots should be gusseted a few eyelets up and there should be no buttcrack in the back. Doesn't matter what I'll be using them for. Simple as
>>18353565Actually his most recent was his best :^)>>18353568Precisely
>>18353516my wesco bosses
>>18353576>I'm a simple man.Yes, I already stated that you're a euro.
>>18353589Meds
So this is the power of White's boots, huh?>https://youtube.com/shorts/3Zl4KO7vnnw?si=oMMPjLhCUbATiUbO
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>>18353605>advertising you're a redditorThis website has fallen so far.
>>18353606no worse than advertising yourself as noboots
>>18353610>having to pretend the other people in a boot thread have no boots to deflect from the fact that you're fucking cancer
then its a simple matter of posting them isn't it
then it's a simple matter of going back then isn't it
i wouldn't know i just saved that pic from here :^)still noboots i see
all you have to do is go back and not returni know your dad wasn't much of a man but it's never too late for you to do the right thing
Somebody make a /btg/ retard bingo card. Make sure to include "mystery mutt leather", reddit screencap, and "shitter". You'll fill it out everytime because this guy is a freindless broken record.
and noboots will be the free space lmao
>>18353565>Scorsese hasn't had a good movie that didn't star DiCaprio in decades.ftfy
>>18353605Just glue that shit, nigga. Might need a vice to keep together while it cures because you waited so long like a retard.
Is this just regular cow leather? Seems a little different to what I'm used to seeing
woah, pre scratched leather
You WILL buy the new Carl Murawski x Thursday collab and you WILL like it.
>>18353920Another day, another grift.
>>18353920It's over for the anti Thursday shills
>>18353920>we have the baroda at home
>>18353920Those loops are gay and ruin the boot.
>>18353934If you're cuffing your pants, you're the problem, not the boot.
>>18353934Fabric pull loops are great because they don't exist except for when you use them. Also this >>18353935The toebox is a bit too much for me. Think they should have made it a shorter toebox and unstructured. Could have been what people wanted the new Beckman to be.
>>18353920I'd rather just wear Red Wing Blacksmiths or something
>>18353925Let me guess, a couple of scrap pieces of real leather in the sole instead of cardboard will add $200 to the price.
>>18353974Stop with the copes. Looks like a really solid construction with all leather components and the 4 leather options are fucking great.Not gusseted at all though so I'm out.
>>18353983it's better they just don't try than apply their pre perforated gusset
How are Sanders boots/shoes?
>>18353983~$150, I wasn't too far off.Let's hope the sole don't start to fall of within a year and they'd maybe be worth $400.
>>18353997kek I forgot about that yeah maybe that's why
That's gay
>>18353925ah yes the school of "lets just slap a giant heel but not build the insole up so it looks like its a high arch boot but in reality its uncomfortable af cause its too steep and is guaranteed to have your foot slide forward"
kinda wish they had boots without drop that still looked nice, cant stand that and the arch support meme
>>18354059Just get some real moccasin boots that just have a piece of upper leather as the sole.https://www.footwearbyfootskins.com/leather-footwear-details.aspx?pi=17
>>18354065Gokey makes some too, and you could probably order one of their more substantial boots with this sole as well.https://gokeyusa.com/home/gokey-boots/shadow-hunter-boots/
>>18354065thanks anon, they look like they have alright slippers too which ive been struggling to find a pair ofi have very wonky clown toes though so i do hope their stuff would fit me, will probably look at some reviewsthough, isnt it kinda flimsy without a proper sole? especially since it's tumbled leatheri do like the concept though, mocassins and moc toes in general always look kino
>>18354057you should see the pnw style boot they sell. its even worse
>>18354083I guess the ideal boot would be something like those leather sole mocs but with a 1-2mm thick sticky rubber sole those minimalist shoes use. Footskins kinda does that with their wrap around rubber soles. Very thin and flexible.https://www.footwearbyfootskins.com/leather-footwear-details.aspx?pi=45>Big retard toesTrue moccasins are constructed very differently to boots. The midsole is one full piece of leather that covers the entire bottom of she shoe and is stitched up to the moc toe. Because of this moccasins are much more flexible and can "spread out" to make room to fit your foot.Ideally as with all boots trying them on would be helpful but they don't have stiff Ridgid sidewalls that hold your foot in place the way regular boots do.
>>18354083Getting their slippers would be a good way to get a feel for how moccasins fit on your feet and give you a better idea as to how their boots will fit you.
>>18353920They don't look half bad and from the crosssection they seem good enough if we're talking about Thursday prices (let's say under 300). However, being Thursday there's a high chance they'll disintegrate after a week's worth of use.
>>18354103>I guess the ideal boot would be something like those leather sole mocs but with a 1-2mm thick sticky rubber sole those minimalist shoes usekinda yah, im not even that big on them being barefoot type shoes, i just walk in a weird way so when shoes have elevated heels it doesnt do great things to my feet>moccasins are much more flexible and can "spread out" to make room to fit your footi see.. i guess it would just be easiest to try a pair and see if it lets me spread my toes out like i usually do when i walkon the ideal shoe though, itd probably be more of a hard leather boot with a wide enough toebox + the other stuff i already talked aboutim aware that jim green exists but their shoes do look kinda ugly unfortunatelyhonestly i wish i just had normal smaller feet, i cant even get those nice creme slippers like >>18354106 suggested since my feet are like a size too large, black and brown really arent slipper colorswould probably ask if they add in any kind of padding in the heel too since some people tend to do thatthank you for the advice anons ill try my best
>>18354128>on the ideal shoe though, itd probably be more of a hard leather boot with a wide enough toeboxCan't beleive I'm saying this, but... Jim Green might be what you're looking for.
>>18354129i do have a pair of BF ARs for walks/hikes, they are quite comfy, very nice quality for the price but i wouldnt consider them /fa/ or anythingi think im just looking for something that doesnt exist yet unfortunately, id probably need to be exorbitantly rich and get some boot maker to custom build an entirely new type of boot for me
>>18353935>buying boots you can't cuff your pants inThis is why people talk shit about Thursdays.
>>18354200>wanting to cuff your pantsFags get the rope.
>>18353925Non-gusseted tongue without a tongue loop is not compatible with my kinesiology.
>>18354204Still a better fate than wearing those boots.
>>18354216Nah, you're gross and you should be afraid in the coming years.
>>18354217Why? Is President Elon going to hire some jeet for my job?
>>18354222When the war starts, everyone will be too busy fighting and starving to notice all the loafer lightener has mysteriously gone untouched recently.
>>18354223only two more weeks till the great war anon!
>>18353925The biggest issue for me is the lack of arch support. They're copying a PNW style boot without putting enough support in, it's just sloped so your foot is going to be sliding forward compared the same style boot from other brands.Will people actually noticed the difference? I don't know. If you're buying "real" PNW boots, you probably won't be buying Thursdays version. But if all you've been exposed to are boots around Thursdays price point, would you feel compelled to try their newer, more expensive model?I don't think it's necessarily a bad boot, I'm just wondering who they're trying to market it to.My John Lofgren Ludlow boots finally came in. The texture on the horsebutt is incredible, it's not quite kudu levels of dramatic but it's still easily noticeable. It's also more visible than my Vibergs, those have a more subtle texture. It's interesting to compare the quality from two tanneries, the Viberg leather is from Maryam and the Lofgren is from Shinki. I'm not sure how much of the textural variation is due to difference in tanners or how much is just individual variation.Posting this pic just to trigger the cuff faggot.
>>18354285>I don't think it's necessarily a bad boot, I'm just wondering who they're trying to market it to.Thursday customers who want to step up their game without leaving the brand. I don't have numbers to back up this claim, but I'm sure a big chunk of Thursday's revenue comes from repeating customers, in spite of all the horror stories from reddit.
>>18354285>I'm just wondering who they're trying to market it to.the cheapskate retards who buy into the "you can get as good as a boot as rw but for 200 bucks"
>>18354285Oh, hey! They put your mom's name on that building!
>>18354285you bottom or top?
>>18354285For anyone curious, the left boot is the Viberg 2030 made from Maryam Salvia Sego horsebutt, the right is the Lofgren Ludlow made from Shinki Timber horsebutt
>>18354304The lofgrens mogg
>>18354303Top, but strictly masc4masc.
>>18354307yah nvm youre based
>>18354285Looking good, king
>>18354306>The lofgrens moggI wouldn't say one mogs the other, just that it's an interesting detail for fellow autists.Realistically, no one is going to see the texture on either unless they're up close enough to lick your boots. I am very curious now as to whether this would be a consistent difference between the leather from Maryam and Shinki, like the texture is a conscious choice/house style. If anyone here has any horsebutt boots from either maker, let me know what sort of texture yours have.
>>18354304Prefer lesser texture myself like the Vibergs but sometimes stuff like that shinki really works. Just seen too many of those high texture leathers where the left boot looks completely different from the right boot or the different panels looks almost like they're using different leathers. Although with the price you're paying for Lofgren I'd suspect they'd do it right
>>18354317>Just seen too many of those high texture leathers where the left boot looks completely different from the right bootExcellent point, I didn't even consider that. With kudu differences in texture are fine as long as the color/shading matches. Same with rambler leather, I've got a pair of Truman boots in coach rambler and there are visible differences between the left and right boots but that's sort of the point with that pattern/texture. With something that's supposed to be more uniform I'd be pissed if there were large differences between my Lofgren boots, luckily the pattern is very even between the two.
>>18353565Scorsese has never made a good movie.
anons what does bespoke even mean
>>18354371It means that they designed the last for your foot.
>>18354371they create a brand new last for you specificallydifferent to made to measure where they alter an existing last bespoke typically requires two or more fittings
>>18354313>, like the texture is a conscious choice/house styleThe Shinki texture is definitely a conscious choice, their horsebutt all looks like that.
>>18354375>>18354377why is that a bad thing? is making a custom last just super unreliable?
>>18354390who says its a bad thing? its the closest thing to a good thing
>>18354390>why is that a bad thing?It's not, far from it. It's just incredibly expensive and time consuming. You're looking at months of time if the cobbler is local, possibly longer if they're not and you have to travel to them.Unless you have an extremely oddly shaped foot, the odds are you don't need a bespoke shoe. The only shoe that makes sense to go bespoke for is loafers, because they are an absolute bitch to size right even for normal feet.>>18354382>The Shinki texture is definitely a conscious choiceThanks anon, I'm probably going to favor Maryam in the future then.
>>18354393>>18354400it was just the only thing the op listed as a red flag that i didnt really get, obviously luxury is just a buzzword but that's like, a real word>The only shoe that makes sense to go bespoke for is loafersloafers are really cute, i hope shoe design changes before i die so people start making them for my dumb wide toes, that or like mary janeswould kinda ruin the whole look though
>>18354415>loafers are really cuteGay "men" shouldn't be in the boot thread.
>>18354416im not gay, also why'd you put men in quotation marks
>>18354415because 90% of places that offer "bespoke" isn't true at all, they are m2m at best
when is it "too much texture"
>>18354304Any difference such as thickness and rigidity?
has anyone ever heard of gaucho ninja, they look overpriced as fuck
are jim green boots susceptible to hydrolysis? i wanna get the wedge sole stockmans but not if they can get hydrolysis. do they use polyurethane in their sole or midsole?
>>18354416Tell em, king.
>>18354300Honestly, with the issues RW has been having with their fashion boots, you may as well just get Thursdays.
>>18354285>They're copying a PNW style boot without putting enough support in, it's just sloped so your foot is going to be sliding forward compared the same style boot from other brands.To be fair, the rise isn't really that high and proper lacing shouldn't have your feet sliding forward.
>>18354566have you tried emailing them about it
>>18353495How do I polish greasy leather? Do I need to strip the oils with saddle soap before applying a new layer of wax?
>>18354593You mean that one (1) pic from years ago from a single missing stitch?
>>18354590im not a gay man but okay
>>18354313i have horsebutt from both, ill post some more pics later. pic is color 4 shinki. maryam has texture, but most is subdued with their tpr treatment
should i buy blundstones 585? i dont like them but theyre cheap
>>18354491Pretty much a scam
>>18354690>missing stitchThis one? It's not a missing stitch. The stitch was either poorly finished or it's coming undone. Shitty stitching aside, I was referring to them also using different cuts of leather with different nap for the same boot which leads to ugly wrinkles.
>>18354714very nice
>>18354313>>18354714shinki uses noticeable thicker hides, at least in my pairs. the pictured maryam horsebutt is more similar to white’s horsehide in thickness.
>>18354902No you shouldn't
>>18354903they're half the price of literally anything else
>>18354905bitterness of low quality will remain long after the sweetness of low price fades
>>18354908low quality what? i need beaters for winter nothing speciali could buy like 3 for the price of 1 iron ranger the only thing that's remotely decent is jim green 718 but it looks like shit and it's still twice as expensive
>>18354917Sounds like your mind was made up before asking for advice.
>>18355099i was asking if theyre dogshit or good enough to buy
>>18355108bitterness of low quality will remain long after the sweetness of low price fades
>>18354917>low quality what?everything>shitty no half sizes just use the insert for half sizes lol>mystery mutt leather>cemented construction
https://youtu.be/OZzQqIz_qwk
are white’s in cordovan worth the money? or would viberg or crockett and jones be a better buy?
>>18355475I think C&J, Enzo Bonafe or Alden do shell cordovan the best.
>>18355475I always felt shell cordovan on anything but strictly dress footwear looked weird. What models are you looking at, fellow bootfag?
>>18355472Shoulda just bought Thursdays. At least it's cheaper to bitch about them.
the archive sale isn't even a big discount, definitely not big enough to warrant this.
>>18355630>>18355586
anyone else have a thumb and a half space between their toes and the end of the boot?
>>18355630Just put some oil/conditioner on it, lazy.
>>18355703>a thumb and a half spaceThat's it? You're not gonna win any boot tournaments with those stubby chodes.
>>18355703
Why shouldn't I buy a pair of Oak Street Field boots in black cxl?
>>18355803>cxlNo. Stop being poor and spring for shell.
>>18355803You should. You've earned it
>>18355803as long as they are onsale, oak street arent bad. maybe take a look at grant stone or truman in same price range
>>18355472it's true, they don't change in heel stack height for half solesthey just slap on the same prefabbed heel stack the do for full soles and don't balance it at allit's not just their half sole boots that have this leaning back problem, all their wedge sole boots too
>>18355742So people cram their feet’s into boots that are too small for them to win the dome? I don’t get it. Or do you mean boots that are too big? What would wearing the wrong size do anyway?>>18356109Is this an issue with any other PNW brand?
>>18356115>Is this an issue with any other PNW brand?no. White's the OG has no issues with their heels
>>18355703I've got a thumb or a thumb and a half depending on the last. In general, having more than that empty space in front of my toes messes my gait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yESylUASXXs
>>18356211How about you fucking write something along with posting your stupid links
>>18356273 is a niggerfaggot
Nigs engineers are strange looking
>>18356322their stitchdown is too loose
>>18353516Truman Black Oiled Rough-Out
I'm taking the motorcycle safety course next month and then getting my first motorcycle later this year I've got White's MPs, which obviously have laces. Do I need a pair of boots for riding without laces? I hear both sides. Some say they're fine some say they're dangerous and can get caught in the chain/belt What boots are good riding boots I can check out?
>>18356487Get some engineers, it's pretty much what they're for these days.
>>18353516Love me nicks, simple as
>>18356541I'd buy a pair of Nigs, but I don't like that they insist on tranny heels for everything.
>>18356546Tranny heel is the reason I bought them. If you don’t like it get a whites MP or something.
>>18356564Do the Whites make an MP in waxed flesh with nickel hardware?
>>18356569I’m sure they do. I don’t know if they offer brown waxed flesh but they did have tan waxed flesh when I was looking at MPs.
>>18356487laces are fine but get 8" boots. true cap toe if possible to deal with shifter wear
not boots but does anyone have experience with tlb mallorca cordovan? i need to get a pair of black derby shoes for suit and office wear and it seems like $150 more for the cordovan is an easy sell over the boxcalf. i'm wondering if there is some catch like they use bad cordovan or have bad clicking to maximize the shells.
>>18356724tlb mallorca is good. I don't own cordovan from them but they're easily as good or better than my carminas that are more expensive one day tlb will wake up and realize they can charge 200 more a pair
Got 2 goodyear welted boots now but want to try some other construction method. You guys know any makers that use blake rapid construction? Only one I know of is Helm Boots.
>>18356983There is almost no appreciable difference at all between goodyear welted and blake rapid stitched boots. Both visually and how they wear, the only difference is that you got stitches on the insole. Go for stitchdown, standard blake or bologna, norvegese or moccasin for example.
>>18356983why not a stitchdownwhy not a handwelted
>>18356724TLB uses rocado shell cordovan and it costs almost $300 more than their calf artista linethat is not worth itjust get their regular shoes if you want TLB and carmina, C&J or alden if you want shellif it's not horween shell cordovan, then it's just a waste of moneytheir shell is just miles above the rest and costs practically the same as the competitionshinki is second best, but can't hold a candle to horweenit holds up fine, but their finishing is worseit's meant for small leather goods, like bags and belts for the japanese market, not shoesthe colors are more vibrant and are meant to stay consistent when the leather is flexed, it just doesn't age as nice on a shoe (or anything else frankly)if the japanese want a cordovan shoe, they just get aldenrocado and all the other italian shell is just bad, supposedly it's gotten better over the years, but it's still quite nastyit's looser than horween or shinki, stains a lot, stitch holes tend to develop into cracks on some pairsmaybe TLB knows how to work with it, but i wouldn't bother
>>18357062>it's meant for small leather goods, like bags and beltsthis
Anyone know a good place to get skinny Italian flat waxed laces? I prefer the laces Viberg uses but shipping from them is steep. I've tried laces Guarded Goods but theirs are longer and a bit lighter in color.
>>18357062I really like Shinki's other leathers. The Carmel Horsebutt is pure kino.
>>18357062>if it's not horween shell cordovan, then it's just a waste of money>their shell is just miles above the rest and costs practically the same as the competitionIsn't Shinki widely considered to be superior to Horween?
>>18357188by whom
>>18357193R*ddit, Styleforum, Fedora Lounge
>visibly different shaft heights
>>18357198Didn't Turdsday admit they don't QC check individual boots? They just inspect one out of a batch
>>18357199yeah they batch inspect which means nothing based on the type of product
>>18357198The welt looks like it might be slightly higher on the right boot so it might just be that the sole/midsole is slightly thicker on the right boot. He should measure the shaft alone
I have been a follower of Stridewise since he first started his channel and it's hilarious to see how insecure he is about being sponsored by Thursday. He very clearly is being paid to hype up their stuff and recommend it constantly, but he absolutely hates getting called a shill and gets really butthurt over it
>>18357206I just looked at his channel, and one of his most recent is a Thursdays vs Nicks video. He isn't to be taken seriously.
>>18357217He used to be good in the early days when he would just buy something, wear the hell out it and then review itNow he gets sent stuff all the time, he wears it for a week and then gets paid to make a video praising it It's the inevitable fate of every single person that makes a living off google ad revenue and affiliate linksLook at Rose Anshill and what happened to him
>>18357223Happens to everyone it seems like. One "problem" with being a boot YouTuber is that a pair of high quality boots will last you possibly even a lifetime. So like all you really need is like maybe 2 pairs for winter and 2 pair for summer or something, and then whatever else for special occasions. That doesn't amount to a lot of videos lel. So either you just make a few videos a year and don't grow your channel or you keep buying/gifting boots every month and then they all have more boots than they could ever use in 10 lifetimes, and none of them get enough use to actually justify a real review.Best boot reviewers are the ones that aren't boot YouTubers.
>>18357235One thing I do like about Stridewise is he started reviewing jeans (which he hardly does anymore) and leather jackets
>>18357223at least the rose anvil guy cuts the boot in half, reviews shouldnt ever be treated as gospel but at least i feel like i learn something about a boot when i watch himthat said i guess boot manufacturers could just send a custom pair to lie and look good
>>18357255>i guess boot manufacturers could just send a custom pair to lie and look goodThat would be crazy. First of all, it wouldn't be worth making a 1/1 custom pair for some youtuber's review, and even if it was that would be such a huge liability. If it ever got out it would destroy the company, no one would ever trust them again.
i feel like a cringe fucking dumbass wearing leather boots to my uni, when everyone is wearing some shitty sneakerswhat do
>>18357287i kinda wish more people would cut stuff in half or do at least some tests on stuffprobably too expensive if you're not rich and doin it as a hobby unfortunately
>>18357306just stop feeling cringe, simple as
>>18357306why do you feel cringe anon? not fitting in in a cool way makes you look good
>>18357306I couldn't imagine being a grown ass adult caring what some zoomers I don't know think about my shoes
>crust horsebuttlolhttps://standardandstrange.com/products/s-s-x-sagara-valiant-boot-crust-horsebutt?
>>18357188no one with half a brain thinks that. Comipel is second to Horween because Shinki is genuinely shit for footwear. I'd like to try Maryam Shell, their HB is very good so they might have potential. But they rarely seem to produce it.
>>18353506Chelsea boots (yes including blundstones that fa hates) look better than these shitty boots and the others you listed lmao
>>18357235I like Taik from bootlosophy. His reviews ain't great, but he's not sponsored and he's comfy.
>>18357340Does anyone own a pair of boots from Sagara? I like a couple of their designs and the options for the MTO boots. The sticky says stay way from Indonesian boots. It also says stay away from China boots, but Grant Stone is recommended every thread. Is the sticky recommendation based on 4Chan racism or boot quality?
>>18357529Sagara is one of the few good ones out of Indonesia, but they are still a lot more unpredictable with shit communication and aren't really "good value" or particularly cheap anymore.
>>18357529The advice after the care is nonsense. Ignore.
>>18357529The sticky is 90% bullshit and I have no idea why prior keep copying it each thread
>>18357552it's a noob filter
Why do these threads only post pictures of boots? Like how often are you even buying 200 - 600 dollar pairs of boots?You would think more time and posts would be dedicated to boot upkeep, care, and longevity.My question is about Mink Oil - I've seen a lot of debate on whether or not mink oil is good for boots. Seems like its been used for years and years and recently the opinion, mainly driven by multiple subreddits, is that Mink Oil is actually detrimental to boots. That the mink can damage the leather, stitching, etc.Anyone have any experience? I used it yesterday on two pairs of my Thorogood work boots - they seem fine for now but obviously I haven't used them much since oiling.
>>18357577im not sure why but your post reminded me of the intro paragraph of a highschool essay
>>18357577Mink oil darkened my Iron Rangers so I stopped using it
>>18357577mink oil is only useful for work boots in very rough conditions. for everything else it's excessively oily and will darken your boots significantly
>The break in was one of the longest and most uncomfortable break-ins I've ever experienced. While they did fit, they were snug, and I knew that I wanted to start with a slightly more snug boot and end with something really form fitting than something comfy out of the box and slightly too big after a few months of wear. More or less opting for a performance fit. I had to wear them for minutes at a time, unlaced, then longer and longer periods of time laced, skipping certain hooks to avoid hotspots. I’d say that I didn’t actually walk in them for any extended period of time until about 3 weeks in, and I’d have to swap out to something more comfortable if I wore them too long. Only started wearing them daily a month and a half into the break in, and only managed to wear them for an entire day uninterrupted maybe like 3 weeks ago.lel
>>18357654Lmao what boots did this soft faggot buy? Worst break in I've ever had was probably my Iron Rangers and they took a week. After a week they were fine, but that first week was rough Worst shoe break in was actually some Cheaney loafers. I would wear them to work and bring a change of shoes to change into after a few hours. It took a few weeks before they stopped hurting
>>18357655Limmer boots. I'd imagine they would be one of the toughest boots to try and break in if they're actually the wrong size, which his clearly are.
>>18357654>imagine not being able to wear a pair of boots UNLACED for more than a few minutes and still thinking you got the correct size
>>18357666you vill go a half size down and buy ze boot in too narrow of a width
>>18357654I don't get it. Even the popular influencers say that a boot should be comfortable fitting and with no pain points right out of the box. Why are people still buying shit that's obviously too small, where is this information coming from?
>>18357654>performance fito i am laffin
>>18357669For the same reason people are buying selvedge denim 3 sizes too small: "it will le STRETCH"
>>18357655I didn't have much trouble breaking in my IRs, and much less my 875s, which took like two or three days. The Beckmans, on the other hand, wrre a nightmare, but partially that was on me because I should have gone half a size up in hindsight. My Trumans were a bitch to put on at first, but once my foot was in they were pretty comfortable and have only improved with use. I can now put them on in a matter of seconds.
>>18357529the golden age of indo makers have passed, they have reached saturation point
Best Chelsea boot for 500-600€?
>>18357773grant stone
my jim greens came today but /fa/ has made me to insecure to post them
>>18357811Please assume the position
>>18357773Crockett and Jones waxed roughout
>>18357287>First of all, it wouldn't be worth making a 1/1 custom pair for some youtuber's reviewWhat? Companies spend millions on marketing, a high quality handmade pair of boots can be had for what, $1000? $3000 on the absolute higher end? And that's the cost to you with profits factored in, the cost to the company would be much lower, absolutely worth taking their best worker aside and having them do a pair of boots with the utmost care, swapping cheap stuff like plastic heel stiffeners for leather and such, picking their best sections of leather, doing proper QC, etc.>even if it was that would be such a huge liability. If it ever got out it would destroy the company, no one would ever trust them again.Meh, companies change their manufacturing process without telling anybody all the time, wouldn't be the first time someone bought a piece of clothing/footwear from a reputable brand only to find out it's shit and not at all as other people said because they're cutting corners and moved their production to some fourth world shithole that's even worse than China 6 months ago. And people will keep buying them for years on end because whatever influencer they paid has much more reach than any disgruntled customer willing to make an online post about it.
>>18357287>that would be such a huge liability. If it ever got out it would destroy the company, no one would ever trust them again.ferrari routinely semds press cars with more power than the regular production cars for reviews. it's well known and at this point nobody even bats an eye
>>183578124D drawing what am i looking at here
>>18357889proper form for boot selfies
>>18357720My Blacksmiths were a bitch to break in. Even wearing thick socks the top of the shaft managed to rub my leg raw. I just slapped a band aid on it and kept going. It's weird, it's the only boot that's ever done that and I've broken in much tougher leathers.
How likely are you to actually get accosted or bothered for wearing white ladder laces on combat boots? I think they look great but I don't want people bothering me calling me a wignat
>>18358069if youre not a nazi then i dont think white laces alone are enough for someone to say anything
>>18358072My yarmulke should keep me safe from such accusations then :^)
>>18357858>>18357876Ok I admit I didn't think enough about the 1/1 pair thing, of course a company would mnake a custom pair for a youtuber, but they wouldn't send him a better one and pretend that's how they make all their boots. The Ferrari comparison doesn't work because that's a sports car (luxury) and these are heritage boots (blue collar). Different customers and totally different expectations. As soon as it came out a boot maker did that it's over for them.
>>18357858Thing is, these aren't normie companies, heritage boots are very niche. They can't just change their production and have no one notice or care. We have literally seen makers like Allen Edmonds, Alden, and Florsheim go down in quality, and we don't buy them anymore. They pivoted to normie customers to survive. The White's Perry boot wasn't made well enough for us so they made the Perry Selects. Point is, we are the customers that notice things, and the companies that want us as customers can't do things like that or we go away.
>>18358069Not one single person would ever say anything. No one would even think anything. No one will even notice it or look at you or your shoes lol.
>>18356487Imo these trickers motorcycle boots look baller.
>>18358393the patch is certainly an aesthetic choice i can see people like, but that circle on the shaft is unnecessary.
>>18358069Very unlikely. Unless you're dressed like a skin and have a buzz cut or a shaved head, most people won't notice, care or know about the laces. And in that case the laces thing is the last thing they'll use to call you a wingnat.
>>18353495What brands do boots for someone who's size is 37 in EU? (Something along 5 in US I guess)
>>18358466Have you tried women's boots? A lot of them are similar to the male versions but smaller. Maybe buying one size bigger (most brands seem to only go as low as 38EU) and adding heel, tongue pads, thicker insoles to make up the difference would work? Otherwise you'd have to go MTM which is $$$.
>>18357811You should post them anyway. The only downside to JGs is that they don't polish the edge of the leather pieces, which is why sissies ITT call them "ugly". Otherwise, JG get you materials and build quality of boots double the price at the cost of slightly less detailed finishing touches.
There are no "official" sellers of Solovair boots here in Australia. Are they actually that much better than Doc Martens? I don't know if it's worth the hassle of ordering from the UK and finding out I got the wrong size and having to send it back when I can easily get a pair of Docs here in every shoe store.
>>18358492I'd like too but its not easy to find brands that do them. For example I really like Truman boots but they just don't do women's and their lowest size is 40 in EU. As for adding pads and everything I have tried that before but I found it extremely uncomfortable, maybe I did something wrong I don't know but it ended up tightening too much particularly around the bridge of the foot. I guess I'll have to try again if I can't find a way around that
>>18358521Neither Solovair nor Doc Martrens are boots, but yes, Solovair are a bit better, but not so much better to bother with import costs on top of the cost of the shoe. They are the same thing, Solovair just has maintained more of the original quality than Chink Martens.
>>18358170>these are heritage boots (blue collar)
>>18358406>that circle on the shaft is unnecessaryankle protector
What's the difference between the TLB Mallorca artista and main line?
>>18358596If that's where your ankle is, you're a mutie.
>>18358419I do have a buzzcut but it has nothing to do with white nationalism, I'm a Jew
>>18358069Just get yourself a cute little 4'11" hoodrat/chola gf and no one will bother you about your nazi boots.
>>18358602It's just nicer overall, hard to explain without just seeing them both I got artista because it's only like 50 bucks more
>>18358609seek help
>>18358632>simping for brogued out eurofag bootsYou first.
What's the best way to clean salt/water stains from the sole?
>>18358636>pointing out why something was done is simping see>>18358632
>>18358699No, I don't think I will, simp.
>>18358393That's a lot of leather at the toes. Pretty cool though
Any anons got a rec for work boots? >Walking on concrete 10hrs a day>Under $400>Could still wear around the office
>>18358861Red wing 875 or Whites Perry select.
>>18358576They're boots.
>>18358937Take it back!
Side zip boots in this style that are relatively afforable? In the 150-200 range ideally.
>>18358950Don't let anyone here meme you out of buying zipper boots.
>>18358514i embarrassingly ordered the wrong size by accident but i might touch them up a bit when the right ones arrive and post them but please dont make fun of me my shoe options are very limited
>>18358521There is no real difference between the two. You should discriminate between aesthetics and the leathers used. Dr Martens soles are softer and bouncier. If you have a non standard gait they will wear quicker.
>>18358950no
Whites' Loggers in the snow. Surprisingly warm, great grip on the snow and ice.
>>18353495
>>18358967they are warm, because they are very insulated from the ground and that is probably the most important thing for a winter bootthe uppers don't matter that much, you can always just wear thicker socks, but that won't save you if you are losing heat through the sole
>>18358967brown dress?
Oh, god. They're trying to talk about whites again. Yawn.
Anyone have experience with Collonil shoe cream? It’s a lot cheaper than the usual recommendation of Saphir. I thrifted some used leather shoes (AEs) and I’m looking to make them look a bit less scuffed.
>>18358861Red Wing work chukka
who here with cropped pants?don't like cuffs
>>18359455I always get mine hemmed. Cuffs look ugly most of the time Sometimes cuffs can help break up the silhouette and look good, but usual not
>>18359415which model is that?
>>18359607Turnout in "distressed black" (custom made to order leather choice from over 10 years ago)Had a cobbler add the vibram 100 sole + heel.
>>18359694nice
hello recommendations for pants/jeans that i could style with these suede chelsea boots? All i see online are jeets with skinny jeans holy fuck
so i really have my heart set on getting some white engineer boots soon, but im mentally tormenting myself over whether to get the black ones or these distressed brown ones. objectively, by themselves, i think these look better than the black ones and will show more character. however, i have a black leather jacket and black jeans, so these brown engineers wouldnt really go with that would they?
>pain in heel/tendon/side of feet>go to doctor>bone spurs my man>she rubs my feet all sweet like and teases me about big needles vs small needles and gives me an injection>says wait a minute>comes back with pic related, says it'll help with pain maybe>I'm 6'4" doc>now you can be 6'6"!If I'm wearing boots I don't feel pain, but when I'm wearing my Frank's I feel like I'm 6'6". Does anyone have any experience with more discreet insoles for fucked up feet?
>>18359843go with the brown black is for boring people
>>18359846did you cum from the footjob?
>>18359858No. Needles hurt, man.
>>18359866only if they use too low of a gauge, 25 and above is basically painless
>>18359096>brown dress?Brown doubleshot.>>18359056Makes sense, never thought of it that way. Also my dumbass just started wearing wool socks, they make a huge difference in the winter. I have no idea why I didn't try them out sooner.>>18359172>They're trying to talk about whites againDon't look now, I'm wearing a different pair today.>>18359830Any jean with a repro style silhouette. Sugarcane 47s are pretty safe.>>18359843You can wear brown boots with a black jacket, brown and black go together just fine. Also you can make the brown work with more fits than black.
So, what's the TRUE consensus on Grant Stone?
>>18359980best value for money
>>18353495I recently purchased my first pair of boots in years, a pair of 14-inch logging boots from Buffalo Boot Co. that were made in the US. The boots were a great deal at $180, but upon arrival, I discovered they had screw-in spikes. Unfortunately, I accidentally cut the side of the boot while removing the spikes, but I was able to repair the damage.Now, I'm looking to replace the spikes with hobnails or studs, but I'm having trouble identifying the type of spikes that were originally installed. Can anyone provide some insight into what type of spikes these might be?Additionally, I'm looking for advice on how to achieve a polished look on my boots and care for the leather soles. I want to prevent them from drying out and cracking, so I'm looking for recommendations on the best products and techniques to use.Specifically, I'm looking for suggestions on:Identifying the type of screw-in spikes that were originally installedReplacing the spikes with hobnails or studsAchieving a polished look on the bootsCaring for the leather soles to prevent drying out and crackingAny advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated.>inb4 reddit spacing im retarded and cant type worth shit thanks
>>18359926>wears hwites>gives off major homo vibesEvery time.
>>18359843Everyone gets black and for a more rounded style like those I think the brown looks better. If they were sleeker I think there would be a better argument for black.
Does anyone what model is this second hand whites boots? Worried about the heels being this worn but the price seems good
>>18360434why would you buy thus?
>>18360463I only have a pair of grant stone diesel in dark brown cxl that I wear every other day. Im slowly looking for a more rugged/casual boots to wear if ive worn my diesel the day before. If I havent found any other boots ill probably buy grant stone brass or field boots the next time they have some big sales
>>18360490m8 you just missed black fridayanyways do you want some stinky, stained, blown out pair of whites or a fresh new pair of brass boots?dont waste money on that
>>18360499I bought my diesels on black friday this year, at the time i thought 1 pair was enough. Guess i'll wait for the next gs sale
>>18360463Those boots look fine, they just need a good cleaning and conditioning I personally don't buy used footwear because it's kind of gross, but those boots check out
>>18360529what did you get with it to hit $400?
>>18360538I got their horsehair brush since I didn't have one, and didnt know how genuine horsehair feels
>>18360536I'd have to buy some kind of saddle soap to clean, I'll wait a few more days and see if my itch to buy this would subside
>>18360434Don’t buy that. Buy them new and you want speed hooks on them not all eyes.
>>18360415talk shit post fit
anons whats a good horsehair brush to buy?
>>18360833The cheapest one you can find
>>18360834what if it's fake and actually like plastic
>>18360833the one with the highest hair density, you'll need to feel a couple of them up to know what i'm talking about
>>18360835Then obviously that isn't horsehair so don't get it
these JG wearers really are something else
>>18360833Any of them. I got one from a brand called Red Moose that I really like.
>>18360848Can't imagine why someone would buy those things on purpose
Ok I just got my inheretence check. I'm going to buy the best pair of boots in shell cordovan that I can. What should I get? Made to order? Whites? Grant stone?
>>18360852Viberg or Alden
>>18360852if money is no object go full bespoke with john lobb
>>18360848Are they made of c*rk or what?
>>18359455usually I can find something that doesn't require hemming or cuffing. I don't like the cuff look any more than I do the bare ankle look that it seems to go hand in hand with
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