The place to actually discuss watches, free of avatarfagging drama, pics of food or drinks, or long-ass stories about your lives.Keep that shit in /wt/.>Your budget>Preferred brand or manufacture>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot, etc>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz, etc>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, chronograph, etc>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet, etc>Wrist size or desired watch sizePrevious:>>18345028
I have this watch and honestly it is the best watch ever made.>438 times better than COSC performance>Perpetual calendar>Deadbeat seconds>7 months power reserveLet me guess, you need more?The high accuracy thermally compensated quartz movement keeps it on the EXACT time pretty much always. plus it has a perpetual calendar that you'll never have to set again.It also comes very nicely packaged with a mixed zaratzu polished and brushed case with a super comfy and solid bracelet. The double coated antireflective sapphire crystal is so clear you don't even realize it's there.Anons seethe at it though, must mean I'm doing something right.Cheers.
>>18349344>Current omega is just sad.>They don't make a single decent piece.The basic Moonwatch is okay. The thing with Omega is that all their watches have a couple of really nice features and/or details...and then a bunch of other things that completely fuck the design up.All their watches are like that.
>>18349352kek I like how they've added the ugly Pasha in the bunch.
>>18349365lol yeah I don't know how that snuck in.
Pick one.
>>18349371The Berneron
>>18349356>I have this watch and honestly it is the best watch ever made.That watch is not a Casio G Shock 5000/5600, I don't understand your post, fren.
>>18349374>>18349377Anon, Finncel has autism. He can't control himself. You can. If you feel his post violates a rule, you're free to use the report button, or you can just hide the post, or you can just ignore him.
It's strange. This watch doesn't look like a Rolex, it looks like a modern Omega instead.
>>18349394This is not your thread. You have >>18348278We were nice enough to give it to you and your frens. Don't be shitty.
>>18349394You're the spammer. We should all be reporting you.
>>18349387On the rubber strap, it definitely looks like a modern Omega.
>>18349387It's from the worst Rolex era: the late 2000s.>Yacht Master>Datejust 2 (it's somehow even worse than the Datejust 41)>Air King 40mm>Milgauss 40mm>Cellini Danaos>maxicase>ceramicEverything had to be big and blocky back then. What a terrible era for watch design.
>>18349398Excuse me? I made two posts discussing watches in a watch thread. Quite hypocritical of you to claim that.
>>18349401>Air King 40mmI don't know why this one bothers me so much. I had no interest in the 34mm model, but at the same time the 34mm AK was traditional. It had been that size since 1945 (when the 34mm King was "the big one").Now, it's a weird mish-mash.
would I be making a mistake by getting an iwc pilot spitfire for $4100 brand new from a reputable retailer?
>>18349415>mistake >iwc>brand newYes.Not that the Spitfire is a bad watch, far from it, but you can get one in perfect condition on C24 for 3.4-3.5k USD. Let someone else take the depreciation hit.
>>18349421Everyone, here’s the proof he’s a janny. Just try to imagine the life of this worm.
>>18349421Kofe time, we're asking nicely. Go away. Please. It's nowhere near as funny as you think it is. It's fun in the other thread. Just leave us in peace, please.
Quality thread guise
>>18349412The Air-King has always been the retarded kid of the Rolex family to be honest. When it was 34mm it was the exact opposite of what a pilot watch should be (ie large diameter on a leather or fabric strap to wear it on top of a bomber jacket sleeve). It was really just an OP with a different name.Then they've decided to make it 40mm and took inspiration from some supersonic car gauges. So still not a pilot watch. Also what's the point of it now that the Explorer exists in 40mm?Rolex should do themselves a favor and discontinue that piece of shit.
>>18349422>anon posting on topic stuff doesn't get his posts removed>troll spamming defecating animals gets his posts removed>anon is a janny confirmed
>>18349371Man, these Gilbert Albert Patek were so nice.
>>18349434I'd never heard of these. They look really neat.
>>18349407You know what you're doing, faggot.
>>18349430>Rolex should do themselves a favor and discontinue that piece of shit.I don't know why they don't. Do you think they're just trying to shift spare inventory or something? I can't imagine it sells well.
>>18349438Dunno. It's a stainless steel Rolex so I'm sure it sells well.
>>18349419thanks anon I'll keep an eye out for a good deal. fell in love with it at the AD
>>18349432We all highly care that you keep eating your own turds so that you die faster.
>>18349434fred flintstone watch
>>18349430The Air King and the Milgauss always seemed to me to be the complete opposite of an Explorer, it's funny that it's made by the same watchmaker.
>>18349356>>18349421>>18349432kys
>>18349442I've never in my life seen anybody wearing a new air king.
>KOFE TIME
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAPKOFE TIME
>>18349518THERE IT IS!
>>18349511For that matter, the only people I've ever seen wearing an old AK were kids who bought a "vintage" frankenshitter and immediately tried to start flexing with their Rolex.
>>18349519BIG AND SMELLY
>>18349521The other day at a seiko store they had a little twink kid wearing an old air king working as a salesman. I had to figure it was either his dad's watch or the markup and commissions on seiko sales is really high.
This brings to mind a recent occasion when I donned my Grand Seiko for a professional gathering, anticipating it would remain inconspicuous, much like my imaginary acquaintances residing within my computer assured me it would. Ironically, on that very first day, a colleague—someone with whom I had never been closer than two arm's lengths and with whom discussions of horology or "fashionable matters" had never graced our conversations—remarked, “Is that a Grand Seiko?” Remarkably, he even referenced "Zaratsu polish," a phrase I had assumed was exclusive to online discourse.I felt compelled to clarify that it was merely a 9F model, but instead, I mumbled about acquiring it online before deftly shifting the topic. Meanwhile, you all have thoroughly deceived me, leaving me anxious that others may perceive me as either extravagantly reckless with my finances (which I indeed am) or, conversely, as unreasonably well-compensated (which I am not).In summary, disregard the advice from /fa/ or /r/watches/, for it seems that I alone have ever ventured beyond the confines of my home.
>>18349521I just checked the 34mm Air King price on C24 and they're like 4-6k wtf. Just get a brand new OP at this point.
>>18349541Whats the wait on a new OP? Are only the bland dial colors available? Are 34mm models easier to get than 36mm?
>>18349552>Whats the wait on a new OP?If it's not in stock, a couple weeks at most. Smaller ADs generally don't carry as much inventory.>Are only the bland dial colors available?Silver, black and blue are easiest to get. Pink and green will probably be a longer wait, several months. Tiffany blue and the multicolor bubbles are probably no longer being made even if they are still listed in the catalog.Note that the 34mm is only available in silver, black, pink and blue. The 36mm has more colors available.>Are 34mm models easier to get than 36mm?Yes.
>>18349430The modern AK with the ugly mismatch Explorer dial and green hands has always been the stainless steel Rolex that only people who can't wait for something better or truly are retarded.I disregard anyone who owns one and pretends they actually like it for what it is. And not just cause the AD offered it and they said yes.
>>18349598I'm sure there are guys who bought the nuAK (or the Milgauss for that matter) who were like>soooo quirky! Who says Rolexes can't be fun.
>>18349356Kys retard.
>>18349518>>18349519>>18349522fucking kek
>>18349401I just realized I forgot to mention the SKY DWELLER to the list of Rolex monstrosities. What a stupid and ugly shitter. I love Rolex but man I feel great shame every time I see this piece of shit.
avatardellocel
>>18349463Not only that if you report his obvious avatar posting you will be banned.
>>18349669>the Sky-Dweller was introduced at Baselworld 2012 and was the first all-new model introduced by Rolex since 1992's Yacht-Master IIThink about how long it's been since they introduced a new model that was actually good. The 1960s?
>>18349690That's a good thing. I hate when brands try new stuff. They should just keep releasing 1:1 reissues of the Tank, Reverso, Datejust, Submariner and Speedmaster until the end of times.
>>18349700I appreciate both. Brands can try to create new things as long as they don't abandon the classics.>They should just keep releasing 1:1 reissues of the Tank, Reverso, Datejust, Submariner and Speedmaster until the end of times....and the Calatrava 96, Royal Oak Jumbo
Should I sell my Explorer?
>>18349776If you don't like it anymore, yes.
>>18349700This, but without even the slightest bit of irony.
>>18349778The taper on the 36mm makes me feel like a woman
>>18349809If objects emmasculate you there are bigger problems with your sexuality than a watch bracelet taper.
nasty fucking shitters
>>18349809Never wear a vintage Rolex then.
>>18349809Get a 40 or 39
>mfw a Nautilus box is worth more than my whole watch collection
>>18349853Terrible idea.If you want a bigger Rolex, go for something with a scaled bezel like a Submariner, GMT Master 2 or Explorer 2.
Are rappers still shilling Audemars Piguet?
>>18349809You should sell the little babby bitch clitty explorer and get a BIG EXPLORER II GMT now with BIG PP
>>18349356Based
>>18349421I feel like that we've seen your watch at least 1000 times and yet people don't realize what's really going on here.
>>18349460In a world where Rolex screams status, Tudor whispers taste. A Rolex is the billboard of success, but Tudor? It’s the secret handshake of those who know better. You pay less, yet get a sibling forged in the same fires—Swiss precision, timeless design, and none of the "look-at-me" hysteria. A Tudor is a poet's watch; a Rolex, a salesman’s pitch. Why spend double to impress strangers when you could spend less and impress yourself?
Day 8 of waiting for my chinese watch. Seriously had to resist the impulse to buy 4 more of them because the new graphics cards come out soon
>>18349950I'm eyeballing the$60 Addiesdive hamilton khaki$70 pagani 60s seamaster$130 seestern doxa diver$200 sugress zeneth chronos$100 or $160 pagani/san martin tudor gmts$165 baltany heritage hamilton with cathedral handsThe baltany is calling me. Luckily ali flagged me for possible credit card fraud and I would either need to send them my information (i wont) or set up my pay pal again (no thanks) so I'm locked out of buying more unless I do that
>>18349952Why would ali flag you for fraud? The payment went through, didn't it?
>>18349415A lack of crown guards on sport and tool watches makes me nervous
>>18349959It's to sell your information. They ask for a picture of your card and bank statement, sometimes your id. You have to remember you're dealing with the chinese. They denied me buying the pagani 60s seamaster 3x and will only sell it if I "confirm" my identity and ownership of the credit card. But I looked it up and you can just negate that with pay pal. I certainly wont be doing that but it's apparently common and in their tos they even say they can do with your info what they please. My paypal hasn't been used since zelle though
>>18349952Based chink chonk enjoyer
>>18349966Oh and I (tried to) order the pagani for my dad because his current beater is an old fossil "relic" that is beat to fuck and foggy from moisture.
>>18349959Oh also I use multiple vpns which may have flagged it lol
Today I couldn’t stop noticing everyone’s wrists, and they’re all way thicker than mine. Like, most people have 18-20 cm wrists, and the top part is at least 1 cm wider than mine. No wonder mall watches are so huge. Only kids seem to have wrists as small as my 15.8 cm ones. Fml lol.
>>18350183I never thought about wrists at all before I got into watches and discovered that my wrists are freakish anomalies for my height and weight. I'm not overweight and I'm only just around 6 feet tall but my wrists are nearly 4 inches wide. They're not very tall though, so their cross section is a rather long oval.
I'm the most racist anon on 4chan.Which watch brand is the best for me?
>>18349905I don't know. All the hip hop I listen to is so old they're still bragging about wearing Rolex.
>>18350252Not Nomos.
Just found out I can get into watches for just 5k for a cartierShould I get into watches anons?
>>18350339>Should I get into watches anons?Short answer: hell fucking no. It sucksLonger answer: if you get the right watch, you can get in and get outPick up a good one, like a Cartier, for example, and you never have to think about watches ever again; simply enjoy the one you have on your wrist.If you want to see where watch collecting can lead, just look at the drama in the other watch thread (or when this thread was invaded by one of them)These are deeply unwell people.
>>18350342>These are deeply unwell people.lmao>Pick up a good one, like a Cartier, for example, and you never have to think about watches ever again; simply enjoy the one you have on your wrist.I'm mainly surprised that this hobby isn't as unaffordable as I thought it would be. I know nothing about the topic tho. It would probably make an unintended statement about my identity or something if I choose this Cartier or a Seiko or an Omega? Right? Or am I mistaken about how this watch world works?
>>18350252I don't believe you a single word
>>18350353>It would probably make an unintended statement about my identity or something if I choose this Cartier or a Seiko or an Omega? Right? Or am I mistaken about how this watch world works?Not as much as you think.Here? Oh god yes, simply saying you like a certain feature of a certain watch (regardless of whether you own it) will lead the autists to assume all manner of things about you; because, online, everyone has to fit into a stereotype box.Many of the posters here buy their watches exclusively to flex here, which is truly insane.In the real world, literally no one cares. Most people know two or three brands, tops. Rolex, Cartier (maybe), Omega (maybe, if they watch the Olympics or James Bond movies) and Seiko (which is found at at the watch counter of their local department store).Unless you really want a watch, I'd advise you to just keep using your phone like everyone else on earth.
>>18350365ok thx. I might actually go for it in January :D
>>18350365Honestly I get more compliments on my Apple Watch than my Rolex.
>>18350339>Should I get into watches anons?No, but.. If you're interested, just get a watch that excels in all areas where a watch can excel and never look back. You can see the negative effects where watch collecting and brand worshipping WILL eventually lead to if you spend too much time and energy in it right here in this thread.
>>18350252Hitler wore a JLC Reverso.
>>18350252Laco, obviously
>>18350252VC ofc
I want one
>>18350438This thing is genius. I wanted to get one so much
>>18350442I don't even want to wear it as a strap. I want to wear it on its own, it's a thousand times more stylish than any other smart watch I've seen
>>18349381>If you feel his post violates a rule, you're free to use the report buttonYeah which goes to him because he's a janny, great idea.
GOOD MORNING BLESSED SIRS.DO NOT BE COPYRIGHTING YOUR $100K WATCH! DO NOT COPYRIGHT!!!YOU ARE A IMBECILIC SIR!!!
>>18350498>watch invented in 1945>NOOOOOO its copyrighted you cant just make the exact same thing for 2% the price NOOOOOO
>>18350508Yes thats right chang.>DG movements in generic cases are the exact same thing
>>18350520Excuse me but they put sellitas in them these days
Anybody know of a Quartz equivalent to this?Generally just a quartz outdoors watch with a decent steel case I've looked at Timex but they look cheaper and often poorly made
>>18350544Does it need to be that ugly?
>>18350545No just an outdoors thick steel quartz
>>18350544Wouldn't that be the Victorinox INOX?
>>18350570Even more expensive somehow
>>18350565MWA-100HD-1AVCF$42
shitters
>>18350573You should consider just a casio duro. They're divers but $50-60 and the highest rated beater
>>18350584Thanks Ill look>>18350591It looks too vintage for me
>>18350438>>18350442Whats so special about this? Looks more another run of the mill smart watch.
https://natlawreview.com/article/casio-awarded-88-million-rmb-chinese-design-patent-infringement-case-watchesbastart bloody shit
>>18349952>>18349971I'm convinced that there is no need to buy low tier "swiss" or seiko anymore because the chinkshit available now outpaces it by leaps and bounds, and vs the "swiss" you're just skipping the middleman. To get a highbeat seiko with sapphire, something that's basically standard on $150+ chinkshit, you'd have to spend what, close to a $1000 now? Seiko is out. Hamilton, tissot, mido, certina and all other "swiss" well up to $2500 range are also out. For example shitter wastes of money like doxa that are known to be 100% chinese, just buy a seestern instead for 100 instead. They probably even come out of the same factory.The future will be cheap chinkshit and then actual Swiss for whatever's supposed to pass an entry level rolex or a grand seiko if you're a weeb. I don't know what's going to happen to Orient or Citizen. If citizen is clever they'll try even harder to fill the role seiko had before its prices creeped up to the not-worth-it levels it's at now.
>>18350600It wasn't a smart watch, it was a watch band.You would mount it on whatever wristwatch you had, so you had a normal watch on top of your wrist and a smart watch on the underside of your wrist.
>>18350616Oh.
>>18350615Entry level swiss>43mm>21mm lugs>Dial has weird texture and grooves>Indices are ovals>12 o clock is a trapazoid>Case has weird notches cutout>Plastic quartz movt>$600You DO want to save the swiss watch industry right? They're really hurting after the quartz crisis 50 years ago.
>>18350615>because the chinkshit available now outpaces it by leaps and boundsEven refurbished HMT watches have the same timekeeping
>all reviews on quality are good>then the say it has the worst mechanical movement they've foundTimex continually makes the worst movements on the market. Even their quartz movements are famous for being ridiculously loud.
>>18350631Who are you replying to?
>>18350626At least chinese watches aren't going to give you hepatitis A or cholera compared with anything that comes out of the toilet of the world. You might be poisoned chemically, but that's basically a given these days.
>>18350615The other thing is some of them, like baltany, listen to the complaints people have about the original watch. For example they add ar coating when it's missing, add more lume if it was lacking, and change design flaws before releasing their clones.
>>18350635>You might be poisoned chemically,And you are vaccinated
>>18350438Aren't these really old and basically typical sony abandonware? They're so pathetic in how they just come up with something neat and then drop it only for someone else to pick it up and make it a roaring success.
>>18350638Not me :^)>>18350636watchdives seems to do the same.
>>18349356This is avatarfagging althougheverbeit. Fat finn begone
>>18349415Buying an IWC at retail is a mistake yes.
>>18349964For me idc but IWC has a fetish for fuck huge crowns so it does cause some concern when it doesn't matter for other brands.
>>18350719>IWC has a fetish for fuck huge crownsYeah, and it makes historical sense. I think the original flieger watches had large crowns so pilots could adjust them while wearing thick gloves.
>perfection
>>18350544Good thing it says "DATE" above the date, otherwise you wouldn't know what that number was.
>>18350640They're being dumped at some point in 2026>>18350600If you could find me a smart watch that looks close to that I would appreciate that
>>18350759The text "invented and made" on the dial is so redundant and cringe. It's like the 5 stars on the logo Longines uses but somehow worse.
Bulova Super Seville. really impressed with it. good case size and shape, good price. and the movement is very nice, high frequency quartz that makes the second hand sweep smoother than any mechanical I’ve owned, with accuracy of +/- 10s per year. overall im very pleased with it. thought id share for others here
>>18350767more like servile or sewerthat's a shitter I'm unsubbing from ur blog m8 >>18350759cool, post it here when you find it
Imagine getting ridiculed by fucking reddit
>>18350774lmfao the fuck is the faggot gonna do now
>>18350779Just spam more and more turds kek
>>18350767Kind of cool, anon. Not my cup of tea but if everyone liked the same watches, shit would be boring.
>>18350781yes if everyone had taste this shitshow wouldn't exist
>>18350767>the movement is very nice, high frequency quartz that makes the second hand sweep smoother than any mechanical I’ve owned, with accuracy of +/- 10s per yearI don't like the watch but this is very interesting. What's the name of the movement?
>>18350784Precisionist in the marketing. I don't know the factory internal code.
>>18350774>>18350782Honestly the worst part about his posts is how the coffee is like brown. Drink it black at least.
>>18350801Or just fucking ignore him, you dumb twat. He wants attention. Why not try NOT giving him the one thing he craves?
>>18350801I feel sick every time I think about that fawn coffee.
>>18350784I dont know if there is a specific caliber they mention, but it's Bulova's "precisionist" line/collection/movement. they have other watches with the same tech that might suit your style
>>18350767Beaut! Wear it in good health
Anyone here work construction? I'd like a mechanical watch to wear is there anything that would survive?
>>18350544That looks awesome, shame it's a shit brand. I'd pay $15k for it if it was a real watch.
>>18350859I don't know, but Seiko's SKX line of dive watches is tough and reasonably priced.If you're willing to spend more, you could also consider the Marathon GSAR line of dive watches. They use Sellita movements with a shock absorber.
>>18350859Maybe stop being a poor loser and worry about watches when you get out of that shit job? Do you not have a family?
watch arrived>>18342918its everything i ever wanted, for the price of $70
>>18350895Wow, beefy! Angry rudey!
>>18350909You're sure that's all you ever wanted? Have you considered a Citizen The Citizen?
>>18350909>unbranded chink slop
finally got my first metal bracelet watch, feel good bros. also fuck this 900 sec timer, 4chan is cucked
>>18350925>>18350920it tells the time and it compliments outfitsthats all i need>unbranded i dont need to flaunt brands like a vain egotistical consoomer nobody gives a shit unless its a rolex anyway
>>1835095forgot pic
>>18350895I don't have a family. I make 80-100k a year. Not built for office work.
I kept wondering why the straps on my f91ws kept breaking off and it turns out they just have dog shit pins. They're a solid piece of metal, so they bend and fall out because they don't flex and don't have springs to keep holding on. I've been using a thin twisted wire for about a year, and just decided to change the clear straps because they started yellowing and noticed this. I had pins lying around to replace it with, but maybe the nicer models don't have this issue. I'm a little disappointed because I threw out my last one after trying to see how long it would last, and it was half the price of what they are now (not that the watches really matter much).>>18350955The knock off rolexes that you need a 10x magnifying glass to figure out if it's the real deal or not are really tempting. It's like tricking people to give a fuck about a watch even though it's impressive to them for the wrong reasons. You're really doing other people a favor by buying knock offs. The downside is you might get jumped or pick pocketed over a knock off.
>>18350954Cool, what did you get? My first watch with a metal bracelet was an Invicta Pro Diver.
>>18350967pic related, am retard>>18350956
>>18350965>doing other people a favor by buying fakesWhat? Please elaborate.
>>18350973Well because if it were a normal watch they wouldn't give a fuck about it, even though the manufacturing for it still could still be fairly impressive. Like there are counterfeit rolexes that use swiss or japanese movements, normally, only a watch faggot might give a fuck about the movements themselves, but by slapping a rolex sticker on it -- or nearly copying rolex part for part -- it makes normally uninterested people interested in it so they get something entertaining out of it for like 30 seconds or whatever. It's similar to using licensing to add a popular character on something to make it appealing to an audience, except it says rolex and is usually illegal. And in essence, this 30 second entertainment is literally the same "muh heritage history story good fee fees conversation" that nearly every luxury product sells, except it's cheaper and benefits are larger audience.
>>18350965>The knock off rolexes that you need a 10x magnifying glass to figure out if it's the real deal or not are really temptingI picked one up out of curiosity and it really did make me question why I spend so much on the real deal. The only notable flaw was the rehaut engraving being ever so slightly off angle on a single letter.
>>18350909My god that's horrible. Is that really what you wanted? It's like wanting to be kicked in the balls.
Kiss it
>>183507597 and 8 look like the unloved siblings hiding behind a table, maybe emotionally malnourished. The subdial is also pressing on the 7 like a child raised with tension. I wonder who's the inner child that designed the dial.
>>18351012not enough ice
Kofe time.
>>18350615Seiko is fucking insane. Their prices on the 5 series along with all their design and feature compromises make them just a terrible buy. You get the same movement in a competently built case that was polished instead of turd blasted with saphire and an actually good dial from the chinks for 1/2 the price or less. Seiko has completely shit the bed on their low end. And they continously do this bullshit where they take a popular watch, discontinue it, then rerelease it with +$300 msrp and some retarded new design choice. IE the alpinist
>>18350997>it really did make me question why I spend so much on the real dealbecause your retarded and dont deserve wealth>>18351008i am actually into that too
>>18350767Could you hold it at an angle to the light? I am assuming that this is the gold one, and I might get one, too. Although silver looks better on me
>>18351029The alpinist with rotating inner bezel seems to suffer from bezel misalignment issue, even the limited editions.
alright cool. which chinkshit "brands" do original designs?
>>18351068>chinese>original anythingLol. Lmao. Just get a copy with improvements over the original
>>18351029>And they continously do this bullshit where they take a popular watch, discontinue it, then rerelease it with +$300 msrp and some retarded new design choice. IE the alpinistI'm not worried, they'll never rerelease the Weekdater.
>>18351068lmfao what an oxymoron retard faggot
bittarutaruderroceru
poopoo shitters
>>18351120What makes you so sure?
>>18350997Why I would like to spend on the real deal:Current gmt master reference is too big and chunky compared to the 5 digits and the replicas of those are not good. 6 digit reps are scary good though, I had one for several months before making this conclusion and giving the fake to my father letting him know it was a super clone of course
>>18351120I like the week dater but love the sarb033 and sarb035, I think it's the diamond tip second and that does it for me, no other seikos use that and not many other watches do but it complements the sword hands so well
>>18351231Why would they? very Seiko 5 has a day date, nobody knows for it and nobody is asking for a rerelease, nothing indicates that people would want such a watch (picrel didn't sell in massive numbers)...
>>18351243A nice GMT2 16710 is going to be 10-12k. Cheaper if you want the all-black bezel or the Coke bezel. On paper that sounds expensive, but is it really? You can literally always sell it back for what you paid if you decide you need the cash more.Those five-digit neo-vintage Rolexes are plenty tough. Rolex still services them, still has parts for them. They have sapphire crystals and superluminova lume. They have the perfect, timeless style of the old Rolexes and most of the modern conveniences of the newest Rolexes.
What is the best contemporary skin diver? Asian brands do not apply
>>18351341Blancpain Bathyscaphe 38mm.
>>18351345Nice pick, anon
>>18349952enjoy your chinesium "steel"
What watch should I wear on my crab boat?
>>18350909it looks like a toilet
>>18351341>>18351345I'd argue that Blancpain Bathuscaphe is too precious for a skindiver and doesn't look very sturdy.My vote goes to the Glashutte Original Seaq.
>>18351422
>>18350859no there isn't. get a gshock or a cheap mechanical with movement you can replace cos you will have to.
>>18350965or ur strappin it too tight nigga it caint breef
>>18351262>shit bracelet shit case shit hands >nobody asking for itno shit
>>18351428>too precious>posts a 10k watchIf anything, the Airain, which created the original design.
>>18351428>I'd argue that Blancpain Bathuscaphe is too precious for a skindiver and doesn't look very sturdy.It probably looks that way because it's so thin. (It's the thinnest automatic 300m rated diver in the world, in fact) But I've owned one for a couple years now. It can take a beating. As for whether it's too precious to take to the beach and/or do some light diving, that's up to the individual.
>>18351438The GO is a re-creation of the GUB Spezimatic Type RP TS 200 from the 60s. (picrel)GUB was the East German predecessor of Glashuette Original. GUB itself. was the consolidation and nationalization of a number of companies including the original incarnation of Lange.To say that anyone specifically created a particular design is iffy because all those companies back then sourced their cases, dials, handsets, movements, etc from different suppliers. Different watchmakers would order the same dials from dial maker and simply have their own company name pad printed on them.
>>18351062My alpinist reissue has no problems with bezel alignment, but the date cyclops was too low down so you had to look at a weird angle to see the date and not straight on because of that. Just removed the cyclops entirely it looks like shit on all watches not called the datejust anyway.
>>18351455You sound like a gigantic blowhard and not by chance you're wrong. They researched the history of that dial design and they found out that the earliest example it can be traced back to was an Airain Sous-Marine issued to the French navy in 1960.
>>18351467Interesting. Any links you could provide? That sounds like interesting reading.
>>18351438>Another microshitter posing as a zombie brand selling Chinese parts assembled in SwitzerlandYuck. Hard fucking pass
>>18351467>You sound like a gigantic blowhardHe sounded completely normal. Why are you trying to create drama?
>>18351422What else would you want to wear?
Patrician date window
>>18351473The Glashutte Spezimatic Typ RP TS 200 was introduced in 1969, the Airain Sous-Marine in 1962. You can find this info anywhere.>>18351477It actually uses a very good and respected movement. I'm not a shill btw, just always been surprised it didn't become more popular.
>>18351499>just always been surprised it didn't become more popular.It gets articles on ABlogToWatch. That's more than most microshitters get in terms of exposure.But the simple fact is that, regardless of it being an old name, it's still functionally no different from a microshitter.The sort of people who would be interested in a watch like that also have enough knowledge to know when they're being sold>military-inspired, vintage-inflected, sold direct to the customer at reasonable prices
>>18351432That has a lot to do with it. I don't like loose watches, but it would also catch on things a lot at work. I haven't had this problem with other watches, or because of the wire it used to have.
>>18351494Date location tier list6 o'clock >3 o'clock >9 o'clock (wtf is this)>literal shit>4:30>6:30 (unhinged and absolutely psychotic)
>>18351499That doesn't say anything about the dial design itself. This guy >>18351467 said>They researched the history of that dial design and they found out that the earliest example it can be traced back to was an Airain Sous-Marine issued to the French navy in 1960.The stuff about 1962 and all that I can find on the Airain website, whether or not that can be believed, being marketing material and all that.
>>18351504Based
>>18351429Uhh sweatheart you can get that for $111
>>18350859Just get this
>>18351341A classic zodiac seawolf
Is the difference between the GMT and the Explorer 2 just the bezel? One roates and has color and one is fixed and doesn't? Is everything else the same? Same movements with the 24 hour hand?Or are there other differences? Are the cases the same?
>>18351548When the Explorer II was first introduced, it had the same case as the GMT-Master. It was just a different bezel, dial, and handset.>Are the cases the same?The cases are quite different now. The Explorer II is a 42mm case, while the GMT-Master II has the 40mm supercase.But even when they were both 40mm in the five-digit era, they actually had slightly different cases. The 16570 Explorer II was actually 39mm and was merely listed as being 40mm.The movements have always been the same between the two models, barring transitional years here and there, where one model gets the new movement first.
>>18351559>The 16570 Explorer II was actually 39mm and was merely listed as being 40mm.Didn't know this. Neat my dream Rolex is a 40mm Explorer 2
>>18351563>Neat my dream Rolex is a 40mm Explorer 2Black or Polar?
>>18351584Polar. I'm a sucker for a nice white dial
>>18351588I was that way until I saw them in person. The Polar photographs better, but in person, the black dial looks way more high quality and the Polar just looks plasticky.
It's the first watch I bought for myself with real life adult money.I will never sell it but sometimes, I wish I got the sarb033 instead.
>>18351594Interesting. I have to keep that in mind when I'm finally getting one I get a raise and a bonus this year so it might happen in 2025
>>18351594I watched a video of the new explorer ii reference and if you look at the hands and their black coating it kinda looks like shit actually and must be difficult to manufacture as it can have factory defects unlike the silver hands. Turned me off of the model
>>18351598Cool. 16570s are still pretty reasonably priced. Just make sure you do your homework. They were also made for a while so there's a large number of variations and there are a lot out there that were bitsa'd.Make sure the case numbers, bracelet and clasp codes line up, for starters.
>>18351599I pretty much completely checked out when I saw how bloated it looked. The return of the bigger GMT hand was neat. Coloring it orange was a cool touch, even though it's historically inaccurate. (They were all red when new. The 1655's red hands faded to orange.)The older models are basically perfect. The new ones are grotesque .
>>18351062I went through a mall's watch section today and looked at pic related through the display. I think the bezel insert was misaligned. That or the worker was shit at resetting the bezels back to 12.Compare this model to the Fujitsubo citizen and I don't think there's any comparison: the latter's nearly half the price and it's made out of titanium and nobody complains about bullshit small qc issues like misaligned bezels, chapter rings or whatever with citizen. AND the seiko comes with the dogshit 6R calibre that only has PR over the miyota but nothing else like beat rate or accuracy etc.
>>18351514>Airain dial design traced back to a physical watch dated 1962>Glashutte dial design appeared in 1969>>doesn't say anything about the dial design itselfIt simply says that dial design first appeared with Airain as far as we know, so the watch is not an homage to Glashutte.
>>18351588>>18351594I also prefer black, sports watches with white dial look weird to me. The black one with orange arrow looks amazing. Too bad it's a huge watch.
>>18351538Patrician choice.
>>18351559>The 16570 Explorer II was actually 39mm and was merely listed as being 40mm.I've heard the 'new' Submariner isn't actually 41mm, and that the previous Sub wasn't 40mm either. What is it with lying about specs?>>18351597Ye sarbs are nice. Cocktail times also have that needle seconds hand.
>>18351614>I've heard the 'new' Submariner isn't actually 41mm, and that the previous Sub wasn't 40mm either. What is it with lying about specs?Yeah, the maxi case Sub was 40.2mm, the new "41mm" Sub is actually 40.5mm. The "40mm" 14060M Sub was 39.5mmThey're just rounding, I guess. It's probably an artifact from the old days when you went to the watch shop, tried the watch on your wrist and decided it either fit or it didn't, instead of autistically obsessing over numbers.
>>18351620I've been pretty autistic about this myself. For a while I refused to buy a square G Shock because according to the numbers it's a huge watch, but once you try it on it's amazing how well it fits and how comfortable it is.
>>18351627Lug to lug>thickness>dial diameterImo, lug to lug is where I start, then thickness, then dial diameter because that almost always follows lug to lug but there are watches with smaller lug to lugs and larger dials that will still fit like most seiko divers
>>18351630That's what I've heard about the Royal Oak, that despite being a 39mm and ultra-thin watch, it's a very uncomfortable watch because the lug to lug is huge.
>>18351630Yes, but even then, that's incomplete because it doesn't take into account the curvature of the case.A 38mm Breguet Classique, for example, has a nominal lug to lug of 45mm but it wears huge because the lugs stick straight out. A 37mm Patek Calatrava's lug to lug is even longer at 46mm, but it's much more wearable because the lugs curve down and hug the wrist.Really, there's no substitute for just trying a watch on, which sucks if you don't have an AD near you.
>>18351636>the curvature of the case.Yes, that's why Rolex watches are so comfortable and look thinner on the wrist than they really are.
>>18351633Yeah, the lug to lug is huge and, on top of that, the bracelet links are not very well articulated, so it feels like a bangle on the wrist.
>It's a great conversation starter!Is this an American thing? If someone I don't know would come and bother me about my watch, I'd politely ask him to fuck off or something.
>>18351662Who are you quoting?
>>18351664Some Anons who've said this kind of stuff in these threads, but also and mostly, dumb youtubers.
>>18351633Royal Oaks always wear one size bigger. the 39mm fits like a normal 42mm watch.
>>18351666 (checked)OK.
>>18351662>Is this an American thing?Yes. They love each other on the basis of the objects they "own".
>>18351341I just found out the other day that Christopher ward makes the c60 in a 38mm form that is only 11mm thick and it still has 300m water resistance.
>>18351511You forgot 12. And 1. And 2. Actually yoi forgot a lot of places.
>>18350759>perfectionIndeed. One of the greatest time-only watches ever made. Seriously, neither my words nor my photographs are enough to express how good of a watch is this gorgeous blue thing.Cheers.
>Slowly yet surely raising the prices of their shittersWhat gives? They can't blame the jump entirely on the war, can they?
>>18351715>time only>39mmlmao what is this? 2002? >also pin bucklekekekekek
>>18351715Hey Mort, it's been a while so you may not be up to speed. Here's your thread: >>18348278Cheers!
>>18351689Yeah but those are so irrelevant. Nobody uses those locations for dates. Throw em at the bottom
>>18351727He's brown AND he can't read. Lol
>>18351687Yeah, but who wants a Ch. Wart.?
>>18351771NTA but people that want a smaller dive watch with decent water resistance? Can't get that form many other brands for that price or even most mainstream brands in that size thickness combination
My chinese watch finally came. It works. Took 10 days to ship.
>>18351831I was really considering buying that or the squale montauk. The c ward is a little thinner and has nice blue lume but the squale is half the price. I'm putting off buying watches right now though because I'm expecting an AD call soon.
>>18351847The only Squale I like is the classic 50 ATMOS 1521-026/A. That's the design they've had since the late 60s and the case they sold to companies like Blancpain and Doxa.41mm x 12.5mm x 48mm is really good for a 500m WR diver.
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>>18351917I'm going to buy A LOT more ali express watches
>>18351428made in glashutte gang rise upbought my first nomos off a buddy for $500 + a bottle of macallan 18
>>18351917It's impressive how good those seagull movements are for the price when hand wind movements that look as good as this start to appear in watches over 10x the price. Blue screws are cheating
>>18351944It's a shame they don't make a real 3 subdial chronograph. They only have the fake ones with a mirrored hour hand. Otherwise you have to go seiko mechaquartz
Just copped this bad boy. Can’t wait to get it in the mail.
>>18351613Is zodiac shite now since joining fossil group? Most of their watches have pastel/hiliter color schemes and look like they’re made of plastic.
>>18351941>AutomaticBased.
>>18351430>>18351535Gshocks are so ugly and gigantic though. I like the f91w but it gives off real autism vibes.
Bros, are there current small, digital Casios that don't have the cheap case and bracelet?
>>18352007I really enjoy wearing a158. It's kind of like an f91 but the chrome finish case and metal bracelet look a little less like you should be wearing sweatpants and velcro shoes and eating glue.
>>18352007They're the opposite of autistic though because they're brodude and buttrock approved.
>>18351718If their qc gets better and they give svelana better lume to apply to the dials I don't mind a small increase.
>>18352028You mean without resin? World time, $40
>>18351941You can get this for $60 on ali express
>>18352003The case looks way too big.
>>18352113Maybe you're referring to the 18mm lug width compared to the 38mm case size, but overall the case isn't that big. Thickness is 10.8mm.>>18352003Nice, the white dial looks clean.
>>18352092I meant something like steel that the chink brands use in their sub $100 watches, not that type. And smaller than that.
>>18352143I just checked, something like 316L steel.
asspill me on stowa. people on the internet seem to prefer nomos but i suspect it's because they have better marketing
>>18352155They're two very different brands.Nomos is focused almost entirely on dressy-leaning watches, color concepts, and their own, thin, in-house movements.Stowa is focused more on Fliegers and sporty watches, and do nothing at all in-house. They used to use Fricker cases, which were excellent, but Fricker went out of business and it's widely suspected they use Chinese cases now. Stowa kind of sucks now that Joerg Schauer left.
>>18352159>two very differentmeant the bauhaus watches>Stowa kind of sucksaight thanks babe
New strap. What do you think?
>>18352167Neat looking. How's the leather quality?
I wish Rolex kept the design of the Explorer 2 1655 over the years.
>>18352196Agreed. It was so un-Rolex like.The 16570 generation is great in its own right, but it lacks a lot of the personality of the 1655.That said, there were lots of complaints about the 1655's dial from the start. People said it was borderline illegible.
>>18352175Very nice. Thick, but soft, upper has an olily texture.Ordered it from two stitch straps, looks like it's operated by a single guy from Hungary, or maybe he handles custom orders.
>>18352196The hands look very similar to this old Omega I have
shout out to omega. my 8900 has been very accurate
>>18352214It would not be at all surprising to know they actually used the same handset by the same supplier for those watches.Coincidentally enough, the capacity for making handsets was the very last thing Rolex had to acquire to be fully in-house.
>>18352196I love the Rolex 1655. The Explorer family was always my favorite.
>>18352259This is what Tudor should do: make watches with the design of old Rolex watches, with the same proportions and without the ugly snowflake hand.
>>18352259Man, I really envy the boomers. They had everything in the 60s/70s: best cars, best music, best movies, best watches...
>>18352261I kind of disagree. There's already thousands of companies like Steinhart that make watches in the old-school Rolex style.I'd rather see Tudor actually try to make their own watches in their own style.If they actually had their own designs they could finally stop merely being the poor man's Rolex.That said, they've tried in the past, like with the North Flag, and it flopped pretty bad. So they'll probably keep crapping out copeSubs.
>>18352264yes
>>18352267But at the end of the day Tudor is still Rolex, they used to make Rolex watches with ETA movements. Why not make Rolex models when they have always done that? Why look for a new identity when they already have one? Imagine a pre-ceramic Sub, a pre-ceramic GMT, the Explorer 1016, but with a modern movement and a modern bracelet, made by Rolex through its Tudor brand. It would be great.
>>18352281>Imagine a pre-ceramic Sub, a pre-ceramic GMT, the Explorer 1016, but with a modern movement and a modern bracelet, made by Rolex through its Tudor brand. It would be great.I hear what you're saying, but I would rather just have Rolex do that: old design, modern materials and manufacturing.If Tudor tried to re-create, say, the 1016, it still wouldn't feel like a 1016. Those old Rolexes have a certain feel. (That feel is often described uncharitably as "light", "cheap", or "rattly")That's part of the old Rolex charm: it feels almost flimsy but you know it's damn-near bomb-proof.If you took that old 1016 and gave it a modern movement, you wouldn't notice, but adding the sapphire, and the solid link bracelet, and the microadjust clasp, and the quality of the printing on the dial and all that. Now it will just feel like every other soulless, sterile, modern watch.Old Rolex is gone. You can buy an old one, but there will never be any new ones made.
>>18352281What if Tudor didn't exist and all of those models were just Rolex branded. Would that make Rolex more like omega with a million references?
the thinking man chooses the tudor over the rolex"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."for me its the bb54, perfection
>>18352264And no internet surveillance and immediate background checks. You could just lie your way into anything and get away with it.
>>18352003BASED
>>18350801he looks like a coomer
>>18352366This dude fucks whoever the hell he wants. He's the biggest Chad in the watch community.
Which is better value — a Patek Philippe Perpetual Calendar or a university education?
I could have bought a reverso today but I'm too poor>>18352400Patek, education is for retards
>>18352339The mental and quite probably literally physical cuckold chooses Tudor over Rolex.Reminder that when you have nobbay serviced your "in-house" movement is ripped out and sent to be mass disassembled and recycled and some other cuck's movement is put into your watch. Not even omega do this lmao
>>18352405Anon this earns us esg points and is eco green. You could wear your tudor with your ecocuck patagonia clothes made from literal trash.
>>18352400A Patek Perpetual Calendar may appreciate in value (and most likely will).A university education becomes less relevant with each passing year following graduation.A 50-year old Patek can command hundreds of thousands at auction.A 50-year old bachelor's degree is worth less than a high school diploma from 2024.
>>18352405>Not even omega do this lmaoThat's actually something I appreciate about Omega. Putting the serial number on the case and the movement gives you piece of mind that you're not getting someone else's refurbished movement.Omega still gives you your service parts back too.>...and here's a baggie with a crystal, some hands, a crown and a clickspring>What's this?>These are the parts we replaced.>I get to keep them?>They're yours, aren't they?
>>18352401>I could have bought a reverso today but I'm too poorWdym? A friend/relative has one and was selling it for a good price?
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>>18352400The Patek.The Patek will get you a job. The university degree might not do that any more.
