Superlative chronometer officially certified edition.>Poorfag guide:https://www.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK>Watch essentials 102:https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV>Purchasing used watches:https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2>Purchasing straps:https://pastebin.com/SwRysprEPrevious: >>18558199
>>18564683nice relax
Do you guys struggle to wear cheaper watches after getting luxury watches? I have a steel rolex and a gold omega and they're all I want to wear now. Right now I'm trying to push myself to wear older watches because I still have them and I have some sentimental pieces I'd never want to sell, but my two big watches are so good I keep wanting to switch.
Reverted back to the f91w and man, it really does work with almost any outfit
>>18564697Other way around for me. I have a 3-watch collection that cost me ~$700 total and I'm done.I've checked what there is on offer up to the $50k price range and there's literally nothing that interests me anymore. They're all mass-produced machined consumer products, imbued with marketing, designed to hit a price point and target demographic in order to turn a profit. There is no magic in them, and the time when a luxury watch would alter people's perception of you has also passed.
>>18564677Just the logo and the color theme feels like luxury.
>>18564677Based edition.>>18564719F91W really is the alpha and the omega.
>>18564697I like each one as they are, because I selected watches that I like, and for a specific purpose in my wardrobe
>>18564697>Do you guys struggle to wear cheaper watches after getting luxury watches?Nope. I get rid of my cheaper watches.
>>18564697>>18564723I didn’t go quite as extreme but I chopped my collection way down in the last few years. Simply put, I don’t actually wear a watch that often anymore.From what was once a collection worth over a hundred grand, the only two pieces I kept are a Cartier Santos-Dumont and an Hermes H08.
The more you learn about watches, you realize you initially fell for marketing and that they're all more or less similar until you spend crazy money. They're all mass produced machine finished items made by brands owned by the same few conglomerates with parts made in China or Thailand despite the "Swiss Made" marketing spiel on the dial. At that point the only sensible option is to buy the best performing watch you like at the least amount of money you need to spend to get those specs. Ease of service is the next factor. That only leaves 3 options: omega, seiko, Casio. You can replace Casio with timex if you like their designs better. Anything else is falling for marketing.
>>18564768same could be said for most luxury goods doe. a birkin holds as many items as a flea market bag>service>casiodon't you just throw your old casio away when it stops working and buy a new one?
Japanese watches make jewish "people" seethe because the jews have burrowed themselves in the swiss watchmaking distribution networks and can extract value from the goyim by being "authorized dealers." They have no problem degrading the quality of the watches made by their swiss hosts by encouraging and justifying the use of Chinese components. The retail price of the watch to stays the same or goes up, and their margins get fatter. Japanese watch manufacturers, on the other hand, have a much stricter MSRP control and heavily penalize "AD games". Furthermore, timekeeping innovations from companies like Citizen Watch Co. and Seiko Epson Corp. further shift the value proposition away from what jews like (((Ben Clymer))) have established as kosher, triggering immense backlash from jews ITT when anons post a Japanese watch.
>>18564768microbrands are good too
>>18564772When your Casio stops working, you just change the battery and it goes for another 10 years.
>>18564774Don't you have somewhere else to be? Like in Berlin, early 1945?
>>18564775If what you want is the best watch for your money, they're the best option out there.Cause they don't spend the money you give them on a dealer network, celebrity endorsements, or sports event sponsoring. They spend it on making your watch.
>>18564789A seiko with an nh35 is much better for the money coz they're so easy to service, parts will be available forever. Seiko QC and design an issue? Get whatever parts you like and build it yourself/pay some idiot $50 to do it for you. Almost any design you can think of and the regulated nh35 will keep better time than whatever sw200 tier movement the micro brand will have.
>>18564795used to be. Seiko jacked up their prices to unreasonable levels in the past few years.But do go ahead and buy a 5 for $500, no one's stopping you.
>>18564795a ton of microbrands use seiko movements
>>18564795Used to be before Seiko started selling $150 watches for $1500+
>>18564697Yes, I wear my Seiko quartz shitter because it looks awesome
>>18564824Chopard is a women’s jewelry brandlol, what a waste of money.(Now here’s where you cope and try to tell us how it’s actually haute horology and you got a good deal paying 2.5k for that much watchmaking.)
they have a nice datejust at the pawnshop for 7900 leafpesos, what should I look for to know if its good or not?Its the metal and gold coloured one (like the bracelet is two toned), I think tis a champagne dial, will take a picture.
>>18564836
>>18564854Right on schedule…
>>18564797Prices have gone up across the board They have plenty of stuff that's still at good prices compared to the competition. The spb series is really all you need for a dive watch for example.>>18564801Nice, they're great movements and you can just swap in a new one for $40 instead of servicing it. Just make sure to buy one manufactured recently.>>18564816That's a bit of an exaggeration but who's buying them for full price? My willard for $750 off chrono is incredible. What's a better value of heritage(unique original design), reliability, accuracy and aftermarket/parts availability? +3spd after a cheap regulation by a local watchmaker. People on here should really be doing their own regulation anyway. Seiko is still great, just not operating at the market segment used to. That's Chinese shitters now and I kinda want to get one now while they're still cheap. I have a feeling some models will appreciate in price once they're out of production, like the skx did. The San Martin Tudor stuff is my bet, or their nicer original designs. Fun time to be into watches.
>>18564866>What's a better value of heritageAny Swiss luxury watch.
>>18564768How is omega on this list but not rolex?
>>18564875What Swiss watch can you buy that's got the specs of the willard/new 62mas, that looks good, at or around 1k?>>18564878New omega seamaster 300: 6k starting, new rolex sub: 9k but you can't buy oneUsed/grey - omega: 4k, rolex: 12k. So there is no comparison, the omega movement isn't broken like the 32xx, it's actually the best movement you can get for a diver, and you can actually buy one new and it's 1/3rd the price used/Grey.
>>18564884>What Swiss watch can you buy that's got the specs of the willard/new 62mas, that looks good, at or around 1k?Just don't be poor?
>>18564677I just came here to say I'm deeply disgusted by this hostima takeover of /wt/ and I'm boycotting this thread. Meanwhile I'll focus my contributions to the /nawt/.
>>18564889Anon I want to buy the Swiss watch, just tell me which one compares favorably to the willard at that price so I can buy it instead.
>>18564896Just get a fucking Rolex.How is this so difficult? The code was cracked decades ago and the only answer is Rolex.ROLEX ROLEX ROLEX
>>18564836watches are men's jewelry now blud which means Chopard is based
>>18564899I can get a better omega for 4k vs the 12k for the sub that has the faulty 32xx series of movements. No thanks. Show me yours I want to laugh at your broken watch
>>18564899rolex oyster perpetual is cheaper than the omega aqua terra this anon is correct it might be better to get rolex at all price ranges
>>18564915Okay but I want the watch now and no I will not "build a relationship" with a wagie as a humiliation ritual for the hopes of one.
Asked this in the last thread, but I want to buy my first gold watch and I can't decide on a dial colour. Thoughts?
>>18564954Black
>>18564954my client has the one in the middle, he is an overweight swiss jew who owns an art gallery, if that helps. Nice watch.
>>18564954White is the objective best choice if we're talking about yellow gold.
>>18564971How to start an art gallery business? I wanted to be a painter, but galleries take at least 50% so I figure it's better to just have a gallery and let others paint instead.
>>18564987Be jewish and go to the synagogue. Someone associated with mossad there will tap you up to run the "art" gallery they're using to do money laundering and spread ugliness in society.
>>18564954Green
>>18564677Please recomend a nice dress watch on a $3000 budget. Preferred features are at least 5atm water resistance, a complication or two would be nice but not required and lastly a clear caseback.
>>18565010I want to like this watch but there's too much wrong with it for me to go with it.
>>18565031I'm guessing the big text and the lume on a dress watch?
>>18565012casio a158
>300usdis relax a super clone?
>>18565043I guess you could summarize it that way. It has an identity crisis where it can't figure out if it's a dress watch or a sports watch and it doesn't do either of those things well. Like it has lume so dress watch autists are pissed, but the sports watch guys are also pissed because the lume isn't even good. Gaudy fluted bezel trying too hard to be like a rolex, magnifier on cheap watches never look right because they glare and distort. It's too big for a dress watch(it's square so the diameter spec is deceiving), not enough water resistance for a sports watch and all the polish is going to make it a scratch magnet(also if you get the gold one it's of course only gold tone so that color is rubbing off.) The bracelet isn't good enough to justify making it integrated and it has a shit butterfly clasp. The battery life in practice is under 2 years from what I'm hearing.As mall shitters go I guess it's okay. It's pretty thin at least. But it's like it wants to be something better than what it is while at the same time not even knowing what it is.
>>18564677any other massive autists HATE seeing any unnecessary branding or text or anything on their watch?i was looking at an air kin and the all the script on the dial is FUCKING REPULSIVEI KNOW I HAVE AN AIR KINGI KNOW I HAVE A ROLEXI KNOW ITS FEATURESI DONT NEED TO HAVE IT SHOVED IN MY FACE EVERY TIME I CHECK THE TIMEREMOVE THAT UGLY TRASHFUCK
>>18564954just buy a casio
>>18564826Which quartz shitter anon?
>>18564954
>>18564991Thanks for the retarded advice as always.
>>18565082
>>18564899Watches are consumer goods. Casio makes a more precise, more durable product than Rolex. Easy as.
Did your watch ever attract pussy?
>>18564683Is that the watch you wear around POC before getting culturally enriched?
>>18565173omg...
>>18564899https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Cg8klY9JI
>>18565185Ma'am, Rolex and other such products are luxury goods, not consumer goods. You don't buy a Rolex for its gross utility, but for what it symbolizes and its craftsmanship. Same reason why people buy a Mercedes or Rolls Royce. After a point, utility is no longer your only concern. You're looking for something higher. The same reason why you don't walk around in Walmart bargain bin polyester t-shirts, George jeans, and no name plastic sneakers.
>>18565246
>>18565253If Rolex is a luxury good that symbolizes status, then why is every Tom, Dick and Harry at my office wearing one, down to the first level support underling?
>>18565253>its craftsmanshipIt's machined and mass-produced. The only thing that separates it from an Addiesdive nowadays is the nationality of the dude holding the polishing mashine at the end.
>>18565258I can smell the poo particles
>>18564768read bourdieu's concept of "distinction". it's essentially just marketing crap pushed on to us by the upper class because these are consecrated items due to their exclusivity and price (important because it's a mechanism for exclusion). it was never about function
>>18565306>read this French leftist author who spent his whole life not naming the jewsNo thx. All I need is Mein Kampf.
give it to me straight, is skeleton ever based or always cringe
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>>18565336It can be based if it’s actually showing off some workmanship and handcraft. Those watches are uncommon and frightfully expensive, though.Open hearts are just dreadful.
>>18565242Yes.
>>18565351Casio watches are great but the company is so retarded. How are there so few options for a classic digital watch design with only the word Casio on it?
I think I finally understand the hype around Rolex. Most of the people ITT and on other forums that love Rolex probably didn't grow up in Dubai. For you guys, Rolex isn't a "standard" brand, it's something somewhat exotic that can only be obtained from a jewelry store. Here we have multiple buildings with massive permanent Rolex signs, including the officially branded "Rolex Tower" on our main highway. Anything associated with Tennis or Golf, both of which are very popular, is stuffed to the brim with Rolex branding. You can't drive 15 minutes without seeing a Rolex ad on a digital signboard. I mean it makes sense, a lot of tourists probably buy a Rolex at the airport duty free or shop for a used one in the souks. Some corpos still give them out to their employees. When I first bought a watch, I didn't know anything about horology, I just wanted something that was easy to read and preferably had a chronograph like my dad's breitling. I didn't even consider a Rolex, there was no mystique, no exclusivity, and nothing stylistically appealing. For me, wanting a Rolex would be like getting excited about buying Levi's jeans. Sure it does the job, but that's not a very high standard. As I've said many times, if you're actually hyped up for a Rolex, please try one on, and also try Omega, Blancpain, GS, Breguet, JLC, IWC, Lange, Zenith, Cartier, VC, PP, and whatever else you want, then decide. I know some of those will be outside your budget, just like they're outside of mine, but it's good to know what's out there and what you can get for your money. Don't be afraid of trying on watches.
ID the watch
>>18565448Breitling Avenger Chronograph
>>18565448Breitling Chronomat Evolution A13356. I don’t know the specific color code since there were a million variations under the same reference number.
>>18565437>lives in Dubai>admits there are things that are outside his budgetYou’re a Pakistani, aren’t you?
>>18565448Sketchy guys wear Breitling.
>>18564842good to know you faggots dont know shit thanks
Guys I think it finally clicked.
>>18565242I'm actually finding it to be a little frustrating wearing watches in the early morning having breakfast because the crystal reflects the morning light all over the room with my movements and if the cats see it they start chasing it. The idea is cute but in practice it sometimes ends up fucking with what I'm doing or I'm just trying to chill with the cats and pet them and suddenly they go retarded if they see the light.
>>18565460If I was subcontinental I'd be living in my homeland, Canada.2024 was a car year and now we're done with cars, 2025 was a motorcycle year and I don't even get time to ride anyway. 2026 we'll surely pick up a minigrail, semigrail, pseudograil, or even proper grail.
>>18565465What's sketchy about Gene Simmons?
>>18565482What is the difference between these classifications of grail watch? I feel like a grail is a grail, it's either a grail or it isn't.
>>18565486I'm just tickling your pickle anon, I've seen comments on YT in which people call a watch a mini-grail. You're right, it either is a grail or it isn't.For me, I want a spring drive watch, and then a Lange. I actually believe that with 4 watches total, I'll wear them all, because they all have different uses. Seiko for travel in low-trust societies. Grand Seiko for office wear + 100m WR so it's actually GADA. Speedmaster, my beloved, for when I don't mind having a large watch on, weekends, etc. And finally a lange dress piece for dinner or important meetings.
>>18565482>my homeland, Canada.So, definitely Pakistani
>>18565486>>18565492To that end, a grail should be borderline unachievable. If it’s just expensive that’s not a grail. They must be rare, if not completely unique. IMO, the grail is about the quest as much as it is the goal.Your grail watch should require you to have to do research and learn about the watch to get the right one. Even if you fail in your quest and never own your grail, you’ll be richer in knowledge. Fuck those guys who are like>My grail is a Tudor Black Bay 58Then go to the store and buy one, fucker.>Here is the list of the next grails I’m going to buyYou keep saying “grail”…is that just your word for wristwatch?
>>18565492>Seiko, Seiko Plus, babby’s first real watch Speedmaster, and “a Patek costs WHAT?!” LangeWell, at least you’ll have a real “unique” collection.It’s pretty far from the 100% NPC collection of Seiko, DateJUST, Speedmaster, Tank.
>>18565540Lmao so true. What's your collection look like? With timestamp pls anon. Let's show him what a real cool guy collects (he will not post his watches)
>>18565544Why would showing you my collection of high ends and independents make your shopping list any less soulless?I don’t think I owe you anything, now that I think about it, but here’s a little taste to keep you seething. It’s literally the least expensive watch I own.
>>18565540>It’s pretty far from the 100% NPC collection ofSeiko, DateJUST, Speedmaster, Tank.Shouldn’t there be a Submariner in there? I feel like the box-checkers “””need””” a dive watch.
>>18565533I don't have a problem with the idea that a grail isn't very expensive but it does have to be hard to get in some way. Like it wouldn't make any sense for a casio f91w to be your grail, it is both cheap and probably available for purchase at your local walmart or department store right now, there's no reason you can't make that happen if you are serious about it. But if your grail is a good example of a hard to get seiko that was made for 5 years in the 60s I could understand calling it that.
>>18565549Holy based, Breguetanon.
>>18564677This Grand Seiko has grown on me.The renders looked mid, but in reality it's quite nice.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfVKHDucmfA
>>18565555 (checked)>But if your grail is a good example of a hard to get seiko that was made for 5 years in the 60s I could understand calling it that.And that would actually be a good example of a grail because you’d have to put in tons of work to find one that wasn’t beat to shit or repaired so often it’s basically a franken at this point, or polished into oblivion.Plus, if it was at all a special watch with collectible value, there’s bound to be fakes as well
>>18565559I dunno anon. 16k for a 16mm thick chronograph? One of the things that you get by buying a premium chronograph is thinness? Plus, 43mm x 50mm? That’s Panerai sized. Maybe wearing something that gaudy flies where you live, but it’s a little déclassé in northern and western Europe.
>>18565549Okay so you don't have nice watches. Got it.
>>18565584I accept your concession.
>>18565549>>18565584Also, lol @ breguet being some interesting brand. Literally shilled by every influencer as an underrated brand with history that doesn't get enough love (hint: coz they're generic and soulless). You are part of the same group you're criticizing, boring and unoriginal. If that even is your own watch which has yet to be proven.
>>18565572For this reason I really don't understand why GS even bothers bringing their chronographs and more complicated watches to market. Why on earth would anyone in their right mind buy a tantagraph when they could biy a daytona for the same money? There are watches with the same complications as the tantagraph that are thinner and a third of the price. It actually makes no sense at all, it's totally outclassed in every way at thisnprice point.
>>18565589You’re starting to sound a little desperate dude.
>>18565592Still haven't posted your watches. The most interesting brand you could think about was breguet. You are just as boring and conformist as the people you're talking about.
>>18565591GS in general is pretty mystifying as a brand. Either tastes are completely different in Japan or there is tons of corporate meddling and politics, probably all of the above.If it was up to me, I’d take GS’s strengths and lean into them. Streamline the model lineup: sports 3-handers and GMTs. Send the dive watches to Prospex and leave the dress watches to Credor.Make the cases thinner, improve the quality of the bracelets. Keep doing the fancy dials thing, but slow the fuck down. The market doesn’t need another fifteen slightly different dials every year.
>>18565595Why does he have to post his watches? You’re the one with the NPC wishlist? Why don’t you actually defend your choices instead of begging like a woman?You’re going to buy them, right? Tell us all why your totally obvious choices are actually clever and well-reasoned?
>>18565589Put some sugar on those sour grapes, little buddy. You’ve got a Seiko. You’re just a poorfag seething.
>>18565600I'm not the guy whose wishlist he critiqued. I want him to post his watches to see if he's throwing stones from glass houses. His breguet makes me think he is. Easy enough to follow I hope, didn't think it needed spelling out.
>>18565584>>18565589>>18565595Are you faggot #1 with a 32mm shit-tier Copehard who keep spamming "poolex" in every thread? Or are you faggot #2 larping as an autist who's in fact an histrionic douche who won't shup up about Grand Soiko?
>>18565603I'm not that guy. So this is just about money. Okay. You have more. You win there. But the way you spend it is still npc tier based off your breguet. This your point was about being an npc or not, not money, and a breguet is as npc as seiko, just for different budgets. What's it like being an npc?
>>18565605Neither. But you are an npc if all you could come up with was breguet lol. You and seiko Wishlist guy are separated only by wealth, otherwise you're as npc as him. Why are you getting mad BTW?
>>18565607Yeah I'm pretty sure you're one of them lmaoCalling everyone an NPC is typical NPC-tier behavior btw. Even my normie coworkers use that word now. It was fun in 2020, now it's cringe. You're not special, faggot.
>>18565606>>18565607NTA, but if you think Breguet is an NPC brand you’re delusional or you’re just flinging shit now because someone posted a watch and you feel like you got dunked on.
>>18565606>money. Okay. You have more. You win there.Yeah, dude. I know. Anyway, I’m getting bored. You enjoy your Seiko and keep counting those pennies.
>>18565609He started using the word npc first lol. So tell him that. And don't sign your posts, chad>>18565611Breguet is extremely Npc by the definition he set. All youtube YouTube shills talk about it as underrated. Their sales numbers are low but they're well known and the watch for people who are trying to buy something distinctive for the sake of not buying something common. The midwit's watch.
>>18565612Okay so you're rich. Nobody cares. You're still an npc by your own definition. That's why you're mad and fleeing now. I'm not him BTW so run along before you have to actually post a non npc watch you own.
>>18565613>>18565615Post a non-NPC watch.
>>18565613As opposed to Grand Seiko? The brand that literally only exists because of YouTube shills? Are you that fucking unaware or totally retarded?All the watches you want are even more shilled.>buy this GS instead of a Rolex. It’s the smart buy>buy this Lange instead of a Patek, it’s the thinking man’s choice.To say nothing of the fucking Speedmaster, which is the most brainless choice of all. You’re getting triggered by a Breguet?
>>18565620For the last time I am not him. Yes he's a npc. But so are you/the breguet guy :)
Guys, this is the best meltdown we’ve had in a while. Thank you, BreguetChad.
>>18565623It’s only been an hour and a half. Just wait until this guy spends the next three threads on an anti-Breguet crusade. Then he goes into the /wt/ all-time psych hold hall of fame.
That's what I've been asking him to do since he's apparently not an npc (he won't and he is)
>>18565626Are you okay? I am none of the people you talk about lol. This is my second thread I've posted in ever. Breguet make nice watches. But they're still npc tier with the only barrier being money. And that's fine. Let's see your non npc watches. Please.
>>18565628>This is my second thread I've posted in everSure, sure, lmao
>>18565598Asia in general is definitely a weird market. They tend to be below average in stature globally and yet they routinely pump out 40-50mm shitters. Why are the smallest people on earth making and wearing the most bloated watches?
>>18565627>>18565617Meant to reply to you (I am new here)
>>18565629Believe what you want. You are yet to post a non npc watch you own. That's called conceding. No wonder you're so mad.
>>18565631Perhaps you should lurk more, because no one here is stupid enough to take your obvious bait.>post an interesting watch>ok, here’s a [legit interesting watch]>[regardless of what he posts] that’s not interesting, you faggot
>>18565630For some reason they seem to do this with glasses and other acessories, too. Why are the people with the smallest eyes wearing the biggest sunglasses?
>>18565636>>18565630Asia is not a subtle place. In the west we think of Zen gardens and shit, but in reality it’s a nonstop riot of color and noise. The people there are completely desensitized.
>>18565623>>18565626It’s just because he’s poor. He even admitted it like a retard, which is why he’s now trying to pretend he’s someone else who just happens to post in the exact same style.
>>18565635You're taking the bait right now if you think it was bait. Lol retard.The ask wasn't for an interesting watch, it was for a non npc watch (his criteria not mine, please remember). Breguet is cool, nice history and complications but it's still npc as fuck just at a higher price point. A watch shilled by every YouTuber as underrated is a watch for rich npc's by his own definition. The industry shills even market it as the non npc choice which makes you an npc for falling for the marketing.
JFC he’s still going!
>>18565640How can I prove I'm not him? (you're schizophrenic). I'm happy to concede you're richer than him, because you called him an npc, not poor. But you're an npc too which is why you won't post any more watches.
>>18565642Ok, what would YOU say is a non-NPC watch? hmm?
>>18565644(You) don’t even know who you’re responding to anymore. Take some friendly advice and give yourself a break. You’re just going to madder and madder which will only attract more posters eager to test out the new lolcow.
>>18565645I'll tell you soon as you/he posts one he owns that isn't. Not going to hold my breath tho. I bet no watch with timestamp arrives that isn't just something mainstream with low sales numbers that you bought to convince yourself you're a unique special boy.
>>18565647I just want breguet guy to post a non npc watch he owns. He won't.
>>18565650No, I’m asking you what YOUR idea of a unique interesting watch is. You have your own opinions too, right? He posted a Breguet, you said it was NPC, now it’s your turn.
>>18565650>that isn't just something mainstream with low sales numbers that you bought to convince yourself you're a unique special boy.Oops, you just gave the game away. You’re just going to shit on literally anything he posts because you’re that fucking mad.
>>18565642I want to like Breguet because the dimensions and design of a lot of the watches are really impressive but the proportions of elements of the dial and the breguet numeral script almost always ruin it for me.Look at how much completely fucking unused space there is on this dial. How small the numerals are in relation to the expansive no mans land and long ass hands. A lot of times this middle area will have some kind of guilloche pattern and i appreciate how much time and effort it takes to do that well but at the end of the day it still looks from afar like vacuous underutilized space. I'm sure there's some kind of mathematical visual design principal behind why the numerals are that exact size and position on the dial, but it's apparently not working on me.
>>18565659On some models they even do this weird gay thing where they desperately try to use up more dial real estate by corkscrewing the numerals around the dial and filling gaps in with dots. Nice try, guys, but it's not gonna work.
>>18565659Yeah, they’re in pretty desperate need of a refresh in their design language but they absolutely refuse to compromise on the wrong things.Those designs look great when they’re 34mm or filled with complications, but when expanded to modern sizes they look empty.
>>18565656Enjoy your npc watches.>>18565659There's a reason they don't sell. They have nothing other than history
>>18565663I have to say I am pretty fond of the previous generation of the Marine with the big date and the smaller date wheel models.
>>18565652I’m back, but you won’t tell me what is a non-NPC watch. I’m not going to waste time posting my entire collection for you, dragging it out of the safe.What’s non-NPC?Obviously not Rolex, Cartier, Omega, or Patek, so those are out.JLC? Piaget? Probably still too NPC for you.Glashütte Original? You have to go out of your way to get those, but they’re still Swatch.Franck Muller? Nah, those were really popular in the 90s.Blancpain, definitely not, especially since it’s a Fifty Fathoms.How about Moser? I know they’re all over YouTube now, but does it matter that I got mine when they still only made about 1000 watches per year and no one had heard of them?Oh, I know, how about a pre-Big Bang Hublot, with a completely different design language.A 1990s Vacheron that they made less than 500 of?
>>18565668Those were cool but really uncomfortable unless you had a huge wrist. Really long lugs and a rubber strap that stuck out even further.The new collection is awful, though.
>>18565679Even the little 35mm one? I guess those are some pretty horrendous nomos-esque lugs.
>>18565674You know he’s just going to shit on literally anything anyone posts.
>>18565681The little one is pre-Swatch. It had a JLC movement. It has the traditional welded lugs, what you call the Nomos lugs, but they’re angled down so they wear quite comfortably. For something called Marine, though, only 50m WR is a little odd.
>>18565687Was Breguet one of those brands like Patek where when they say 50m they actually mean you're good to dive to 50m?
>>18565692Can’t say. Breguet’s history was pretty chaotic in those days so probably not. Either way, I would get a watch that old wet unless I’d had it serviced and pressure tested.
>>18565692That's actually all watch brands. The "dynamic pressure" myth that watch makers perpetuated by watch brands to weasel out of warranty claims has been debunked.
>>18565698I think he meant in terms of whether every single watch is individually tested or if a few watches from a batch are tested.
>>18565674If you got h Moser when they were small/pre hype that's not npc. Why'd you pick one of their watches or even hear of them?
hot new SeikosYou just know christmas is coming soon with all these releases.
>>18565706Are these npc watches?
>>18565706Rolex sub... i mean Seiko Prospex
>>18565710that's one weak blow, kekThe NPC watch would be the f91
>>18565713Jokes on you I like this and the f91w
>>18565702>If you got h Moser when they were small/pre hype that's not npc. Why'd you pick one of their watches or even hear of them?Moser Mayu. (It was eventually renamed Endeavour). I was checking out Langes during a trip to Las Vegas and the dealer started telling me about how Moser had been resurrected and Andy Strehler was designing these really overengineered movements for them. From that point, I got interested and I hunted one down.
>>18565710The true NPC watch is the Rolex Submariner.Every excel monkey at your office who's into watches at all either owns one or wants one.
>>18565733Very based. This is non Npc. Why were you trolling that other guy? He's aiming for what he can afford. I really am not him.
>>18565738The marketing is powerful too, I know all that and yet want one. I even vacillate between liking the design and not. None of them are perfect either. The 16610 has a jangly bracelet and nice pieces not polished to hell are hard to find, the 116610 is fat and ugly, the 126610 has a broken movement. Yet I want one every few months.
>>18565742I wasn’t trolling anyone. I gave him a little shit for his box-checker collection. This is 4chan. If you can’t take a joke, you should not be here.After that, I took off. A lot of posts ITT are pretending to be me in order to wind that kid up.
asspill me on anordain
>>18565733i thought it was a Pagani design in the miniature
>>18565733Looks Chinese.
>>18565738>>18565710>>18565742>>18565702Calling people NPC is a very NPC thing to do.
Does anyone know if these things have regular spring bars or if they have fixed bars?
>>18565778Why would it be fixed bars? There's like 1 or 2 models in the whole watch industry that have fixed bars.Actually, i only know the Tudor Marine Nationale
>>18565784They just look like they might be fixed and I've never seen anything explicitly confirming or denying it.
>>18565786www.youtube.com/shorts/n-CRuRovra0?si=AWQSacCnaliuaIeS
How are we feeling about the watch casting for Splinter Cell: Deathwatch?>The x-wind is apparently the McGuffin of the series.
>>18565778Fixed bars are the "regular" as they were invented before spring bars. Spring bars should be called extensible bars or "self setting" bars.Same as the term wrist watch itself; they used to be called wrislets, because essentially they were smaller pocket watches worn on the wrist. From now on please refer to a wrist watch as a wristlet or watchlet and only the the term 'watch' when discussing pocket watches. I am sure many of you do own at least one. If you do not, however, you really can't say you're a student of horology or even claim to be into watches.
>>18565798I don't understand how your schizo ramble furthers this discussion.
@18565797Why did (You) cross post this in /nawt/? Are you that desperate for (You)s?
Why did you redeem the gift card?
>>18565336So you can accidently hypnotize yourself at the airport while a bluey episode plays on the tele behind you? No thank you. Not again.
>>18565802What good is a (you) anyways? I never got that.I have a small dick and I'm a manlet virgin.
>>18564836>3.3mm thick, 22k micro rotor, dual stacked barrelsYeeeeah
>>18564954Blue
>>18565733I hate to bring this up, but now that Mort’s gone, you’re going to have to be our resident six-figure collection anon. You’re Mort Junior now.
>>18565802Are you the multi-board detective? Shitlock Holmes.
>>18565591>Why on earth would anyone in their right mind buy a tantagraph when they could biy a daytona5hz 72hr power reserve activating the chronograph doesn't effect time keeping
>>18565605It's 38.5 liar
>>18565760Ruined by 6 layers of ar coating (unless they fixed this)
>>18564677opinions on longines conquest? Opinions on the new captcha?
>>18565760Microshit brand with Sellita movements asking for Omega prices.Anything over $2000 for Sellita is overpriced, unless you take into account brand heritage and position in the hierarchy of brands (ie IWC and Omega).
>>18565846Chopard as a brand just invokes the word "cope" for me but once in a while you see a great looking piece with no bullshit like this.
>>18565448why am i seeing him here too.
>>18565877* La Joux-Perret
>>18565889Are La jew perry movements pretty good?
>>18564884I wish seamasters didn't look so gay
>>18565258
>>18565351i resonate strongly with this postthere many "g-shock" branded watches that i love but the the branding/text on the watch is so fucking cringe i wouldn't be caught dead wearing one.>GM-B2100SD-1C>GWG-B1000-1A>DW-H5600MB-1A4>GD-B500-7
>>18565416>mint condition(lightly clawed)
>>18565467thats the nerve gas anon
>>18565873we like it
>>18564677why the fuck does my filter list not catch this spam? why am i seeing this shit?
>>18565765trvkeit's an outdated buzzword like snowflake
I think that aside form 1 or maybe 2 more unique microbrand purchases (both under $500) i'm going to stop buying watches entirely until i can save up for a Rolex the fact is you don't need anything else. Want to impress girls? RollieWant to impress guys? RollieWant to dress up for an event? RollieWant to dress down but still keep a little flair? Rollie. you just can't go wrong with it. it's the perfect watch. there's never a bad time to be wearing a Rolex, except maybe when you're being the victim of a mugging. and yeah, a lot of that is due to marketing. yes Omega has better movements, yes multiple brands have better finishing or complications or dials or whatever the fuck else, but Rolex is the all-rounder. it's not perfect in its execution, but it's more than good enough across the board. the perfect one-and-done. a watch that becomes your legacy. i accept that Rolex is the GOATi kneeli kneel.
>>18566036Steel rolex watches are perfect for daily watches but for dressier affairs and more special occasions I think a precious metal watch is better and if you're going for precious metal that opens up a lot of nice options. Gold rolex is good, of course, but for something really dressy and classy I think there are better options. And it's not a solved game, you can look around and use your imagination and express yourself with something a little off the beaten path.
>post about wanting a GS and a Lange before I sleep.>/wt/ lawsuit of the decade takes place in which some anons are defending me, others are calling me a NPC, and the definition of NPC itself is debated.Picrel are my two watches. Speedmaster is super common, not gonna argue about that. My SCED037 is pure kino thoughbeit. Both are very special/sentimental to me in different ways, in how they were acquired and where they've gone while worn.Probably getting a GS next, I don't care if there are 10,000 or zero videos about it. The lange I want has one (1) youtube video about it. NPC behavior is making decisions based on the popularity/hype of a product, and that includes purposefully seeking things out just because they're "not hype".Just get what you like and wear it often.
>>18566036You kneel to suck off your AD for a place on the waiting list.
>>18566064So? Jeez, next you're going to tell me sitting to pee is wrong.
>>18566064The watch is called Sub for a reason.
watch id ?
>>18565733nu-mort or mortwo?
>>18566056You shouldn't care, you really shouldn't because Every watch is a cope of something else. Even 50K breguet are a cope of VOUTILAINEN. Even this>>18547358 because he couldn't get a Philippe dufour.Only Rolex isn't a cope because it's by far the strongest brand. The only Rolex cope is another Rolex which costs the same but you couldn't get your hands on. And maybe casio because if one wants a Casio he isn't cross shopping for anything else.No matter what you buy, this is the internet and they will find ways to play down your watch and constantly change the goalpost until they're 5 layered deep into coping to make themselves feel better.>>18547426I'm going to be very harsh here to make you understand that you suffer from cognitive dissonance. And throw in some unnecessary insults to spice things up a little.You said>"I don't even like--"Emphasis on the "I". This isn't about you, you main character syndrome triple vaxxed midwit. What if I said this, and pay attention to how this sentence is going to make you feel you soulless NPC:>"I don't even like a Lange und Söhne---I like GO'e designs more"Well? I know what you thought of, you know it, and the others know to.Now, how is it different from me saying>"It doesn't matter that voutilainen costs 5 times more, I don't like the designs"How's this not a cope? Exactly. Now have some inner conversation to better yourself as a person and learn to think from an objective 3rd perspective.>>18547422Speedmaster? If you know the actual history of how it was chosen to go to the moon, than any chronograph that's objectively better than it (el primero) or stronger brand (rolex/Daytona) is the watch people would buy instead. If you don't know the story, it doesn't matter because Omega recently removed the "all parts are made in Switzerland" from their website which means you're paying 10K for a 95% made in China watch.
>>18566102
>>18566105Anon you're literally replying to my post from last month with the same reply. We already had this exact discussion and you never actually said which watch the Speedmaster is a cope of. It came before the Daytona, so please, enlighten me. I agree with the other things you've said replying to the other anon. I think we would be friends irl based on your sense of humor.
How true is this?
>>18566166Not as true as this.
>>18566056>I didn’t have a meltdown, I swear! I posted once and left! PLEASE BELIEVE ME!
>>18566183Nice reading comprehension. I'm not the guy with the Breguet, I'm the guy he was criticizing. You can tell by the watches I posted desu
>>18566189>Nooooo! That was someone elseholy fucking cope lmfao
>>18566189I just went back and read the thread. Looks like the guy with the Breguet and the Moser trolled you a little and you had a total shit-fit at him.There’s really no way you can spin it. You came off as mad as fuck.Sorry, dude. Take the L and move on. There would be more dignity in it.
>>18566171Based chart
>>18566196To be fair, though, his trying to bait Mort Junior into posting a “non-NPC” watch was probably the funniest tantrum here since that guy who wanted to buy a second gen Overseas and then went to war with the entire thread.
>>18565797I wouldn't want to wear a death watch.
>>18565865What's wrong with 6 layers of AR coating?
>>18566202You can literally tell it's not based me on the time and the way I type. I have regularly said Breguet and Blancpain are good watches that anons should try on in person.
>>18566202>overseas guyOh my god I remember that! The best meltdowns end with repeated bans.
>>18566056>Just get what you like and wear it often.This.
>>18566202I kind of wish Mort Jr. hadn’t just ended by offering up his entire collection like “pick one”. That kind of took the wind out of npc anon’s sails. Like>ok…let’s see the moser I guess.
>>18566219Post-meylan Moser is giga-NPC thoughbeit.
>>18566221No doubt. They turned it into a meme brand. What’s worse is that they also cut corners. The old ones were as well-finished as anything. The new ones are just ok.The Meylan kid said as much when he took over: “When I showed up, they were making watches like cost was no object.”
>>18566225It’s not just in the finishing. They’re using less gold in the cases. The old ones were much heavier.
>>18566219Mort Jr. did him a favor by putting him out of his misery.
>>18566166very
no, this is the one
The original chart.Never refuted. Never improved. Cope or not, I don't care
>>18566245I miss being an incel. Gotta buy a GS to capture the feeling.
>>18566259>I miss being an incel.What made you decide to go volcel?
>>18564677My grandad has a rolex worked with a company for 40 years he said i was going to get it but probably won't wear due to nigger infestation
>>18566261/pol/, but then /fit/ saved me and now I've got a family (besides /wt/ desu)
>>18566265>now I've got a family…and by family, I mean a Discord channel.
>>18566266Scared of /fit/?
>>18566273I used to post a ton on /fit/ before I realized that none of them have any idea what they’re talking about and are mostly there for bucketcrabbing.I’m in much better shape now than I ever was back then.
>>18566288I find that visiting /fit/ every day keeps me really focused on getting stronger. Without my daily dose I get too complacent, since I'm already 1/2/3/4 and none of my irl friends lift anymore.Much like here, there's a lot of shitposting and crabs but you still learn stuff sometimes.
>>18566056At least your second isn't a Submariner. A Speedmaster + Submariner is the most boring watch collection you can have.
>>18566316lol yeah.In general, though, the idea of buying watches according to a “need”-based list (especially one that doesn’t match your lifestyle) is completely brainless.I said this a few threads ago, but that’s not a collection any more than having a black belt and a brown belt constitutes a belt collection. It’s just a wardrobe.Like, it’s fine to want a dress watch, but if you never get dressed up, or only do so a few times per year, what’s the point?>well, I need a dress watchYou end up with someone’s most expensive piece being a safe queen that is only ever pulled out to take pictures of.
What watches have you regretted selling, and what made you sell them in the first place?Also what watch is this goy wearing?
>>18566336Guy*
>>18566318The idea comes from, naturally, Reddit. As soon as guys get interested in watches, the so-called experts there immediately decided what constitutes an optimal collection. The hive mind nature of the place then settled on the one perfect version:GADA (what an idiotic term): has to be a Rolex Datejust. Office wear, daily wear, whenever. (Plus, no collection is complete without a Rolex.)Sports watch: usually a Speedmaster, since no serious collection is complete without a Mooooonwatch.Beater: gotta be a Seiko diver of some sort.Dress watch: Take your pick from the Holy Trinity plus ALS. A serious collector needs a serious dress watch, after all.Then you have the dweebs who follow the exact same template but call themselves freethinkers for picking something slightly different, like a Grand Seiko instead of a Rolex, or an El Primero instead of a Speedmaster.
>>18566336>What watches have you regretted selling, and what made you sell them in the first place?I had a Royal Oak that I bought before the prices on them went nuts. I sold it because it was uncomfortable and not that well made. Then like four years later they became the hottest thing since wholesale carpet.
>>18566318I'd strongly argue a "dress watch" doesn't have to be reserved only for dressing up. I wear mine pretty regularly for holidays and birthday parties and taking my wife to dinner and stiff, regardless of what we actually dress like. Wearing your dress watch with a comfy sweater on Christmas is about as based as it gets in the watch world.
>>18566345What they get wrong is that a beater doesn't have to be cheap. Steel tool watches from Rolex, Omega, Tudor, and Zenith work as beaters. Basically it eats the sports watch category if you're not afraid of a few scratches. People obsessed with "retaining value" can't understand this.>>18566352To me, a dress watch is basically any watch that you'd actually be cautious about damaging through regular use, so probably something made of gold or with fragile complications.
>>18566345The microbrand and aesthetically minded chad winsBuying mainstream brands is gaudy and tasteless
>>18566349So if it was uncomfortable and you didn't like it, do you really regret it?
>>18566359What are some good underrated watches for daily wear? I wanted a tegimented u50 from sinn but they bumped up the price to where it's not worth it. >>18566353
>>18566372Personally I like a smaller watch for daily wear (36-38mm). It's easier to style and doesn't stick out unless its got a fluted bezel. As for underrated? Basically every watch is underrated depending on who you're talking to. I'd just say avoid watches that don't have an in-house movement, but that's just MY 'tism, don't let it hold you back. If I was buying my first watch and didn't have a diameter preference, I'd probably get one of the Seiko Arita porcelain dials. It's a shitter with a cool porcelain dial, what's not to love? This isn't a very helpful post, I realize. Just get what you like and wear it often. (TM)
>>18566318>>18566345There is exactly one correct way of building a watch collection, and this isn't up for debate. You buy one watch you really like. Then you wear that watch for at least a year. Take note of when it feels out of place, what it's missing, in which situations you leave it at home, etc.Then buy a second watch that covers those bases. Repeat as needed, and never buy the cope watch instead of the one you actually want. Better to wait and save up, otherwise you're just moving your goal watch further away in time.
You homosexual faggot niggers spend way too much time arguing about NPCs and what watches they (supposedly) wear. O B S E S S E D .BSESSED.All you do thread after thread, is come up with what counts as NPC (based on shit as arbitrary and dumb as whatever Teddy fucking Baldassarre has to say about some brand) and then take the opposite stance. Your entire taste in watches is 100% just reacting to whatever Redditors or cringe YouTubers like. You don’t even realize it, but you’re literally brandwhores, you’re just on the other end of the spectrum. Very few anons ITT have what you like to call "original thoughts". It's always>DURRRR NPCs LIKE [watch], BUT NOT ME, I'M NOT AN NPC!!!Also don't pretend 100% of your "horological culture" doesn't come from boards and Youtube (ie parrot what others said/wrote). It's actually really fucking pathetic.
>>18566353>People obsessed with "retaining value" can't understand this.These tend to be the same shopping-list buyers who talk about their watch “journey”. Their dress watch starts as an Orient, then some microshitter, then a Cartier, and finally a Patek.They never buy a watch without thinking about the upgrade that comes after. Even when they buy their “endgame” watch, they’re afraid to wear it for fear of scuffing it and killing the resale. (And, of course, they’re never going to buy a watch with bad resale.)
>>18566369>So if it was uncomfortable and you didn't like it, do you really regret it?I regret not holding onto it for a few more years and getting 15k in profit instead of just 3k. But, even then, I don’t regret getting rid of the watch itself.
>>18566336I regret throwing away a Vostok Amphibia that ran a minute per day fast and had a loose bezel, a long time ago. Only learned later that you can regulate it yourself, and how easy and cheap it is to mod them.
>>18566390>Then buy a second watch that covers those basesand end up with a beater, a GADA, a sports watch, and a dress watch.You’re just renaming box-checking.
>>18566398NTA, but for me it's a stealth watch, a GADA, a tool watch, and a dress watch. Are those just different words for the same things? Yeah, 100%. At the end of the day, the occasions that you'd wear a particular watch are very specific to each person, but it basically boils down to those 4 regardless. You are wise, anon.
>>18566398Except I'm checking boxes that have shown to actually exist in my own life and preference, not work through a list of categories others made.My list turned out to be a blue dial with rotating bezel on a bracelet, a black dial without numerals on a leather strap, and a tilted dial hand-wound for example.All of them are used as GADA, beater and dress watch equally.
>>18566401That's actually interesting, because I take a form from function approach and wouldn't really consider anything you're describing. My beater has to be black PVD. My tool watch has to have a very legible dial, for which I find white on matte black to be the best (as you also see in german pilot's watches). My GADA has to be smaller than 40mm as to not overpower certain fits. My dress watch will have roman numerals because I think they're the most elegant, especially on a time only piece, and I don't even want to know the date when I'm eating a nice dinner.
>>18566402I just think that if went by "form follows function", I wouldn't be a watch guy at all. I'd wear a Quartz Casio so I can check the time without seeing my 500 unanswered emails, and be done with it.Watches are supposed to have the look I want, and at least one has to be hand-winding for the daily ritual.
You are all autistic and that's fine.
>>18566407>I just think that if went by "form follows function", I wouldn't be a watch guy at all.Same. I wear a Garmin most days, and my watch collection is all dress watches. I’m not interested in sports watches.I like precious metals, complications, and gator skin straps.The box-checkers will pull their hair out at my lack of a dive watch or a travel watch or a pilot’s watch or a field watch or an office watch…
>>18566353Correct. Your dress watch is one you wear in leisure time when you know you're not going to get dragged into working on something. Having a bourbon and cigar with the boys could be dress watch time.
>>18566412Reddit also invented the idea of the "one watch collection" where you have one watch that you wear for everything and does everything well. Aka being fuckin normal and buying a simple inoffensive watch.I got the best man for my wedding a 38mm Hamilton Murph as a gift to thank him for being in the wedding and he legit wears it for everything - weddings, parties, camping, fishing, shooting range, baseball games, whatever. At worst a strap change makes it suitable for anything. Like, you can just wear the same watch for everything, you'll be okay.
Copped Seiko Prospex GMT Diver in green as my first serious watch purchase while in Tokyo. No tax + favorable exchange rate. What's next on the list?
>>18566345https://www.ablogtowatch.com/wait-a-minute-ive-discovered-the-worst-kind-of-collector/Guys with Reddit optimized “collections” are victims of SEO brainrot.
Are there mechanical watches that can be abused? Particularly shock resistance. I know companies like Rolex claim to have superior shock resistance but how good is it really? For some context I'm a carpenter. Recently I've been chiseling a bunch of joints and broke my watch. What watch can withstand this type of abuse?
>>18566426why no Rolex you cheapskate?
>>18566512>What watch can withstand this type of abuse?a quartz watch
>>18566428>No taxso you smuggled it through customs? might as well just steal a watch in your home country
>>18566534Because I married my wife, not my best man.
>>18566561wife for the family, best man for the sex.
Posting my "no fun allowed" 3 watches collection again.The Explorer is a 10/10, the Hamilton is a 10/10, the IWC tho i had a really hard time bonding with. Spent a shit ton of money on after market straps for it, still didn't really bond with it. The 36mm blue IWC is only sold on alligator strap, it's high class but oldman-ish. So i bought a Delugs rubber but it makes it look cheap, bought a Forstner that was an absolute horror to wear, and a NATO and a few aliexpress shit sailcloth straps... I didn't want to spend 1.4k on an OEM IWC strap... Anyways, i finally ordered the bracelet picrel from Unclestrap (it's said to fit perfect), hopefully it will be the good one. Last time i buy a watch that's not on a metal bracelet from the start.
>>18566241A list like this is silly because it's purely based on price point. Somebody who buys a Timex or a Daniel Wellington should not be in the same category as a Sea-Gull or Vostok
>>18566166Ass backwards. Chicks love watches they could wear: Cartier and other dress watches
>>18566207Can't see shit just curve the crystal
>>18566600Why wouldn't you be able to see?
>>18566591I think it's just the watch. Iwc gives me designed by committee and focus group vibes. They're technically brilliant, look good too but just lack that soul you're probably looking for
>>18566512
>>18566604Takes reflections and turns them into glare
>>18566697What are the watches that have the most SOVL?
>>18564677holy shit are you guys still using my poorfag watch guide I made that shit like six years ago half the junk on it isn't even available new anymore
anyone here know about SEIKO watches? what is the difference if it says MOVT Japan near the 6 o clock position versus just Japan ? are both legit or is one fake ?
>>18566512companies like Rolex claim to have superior shock resistance but how good is it really? Rolex movements are probably the toughest of the mechanical watchesRecently I've been chiseling a bunch of joints and broke my watch. What watch can withstand this type of abuse?Quartz.
>>18566766Seiko has factories in Japan as well as overseas.
bitter shitter copecel NH-166-3R
>>18566591There's nothing wrong with the watches individually but as a collection they're too similar to each other
>>18566834Yeah, it's the same watch but on 3 different price brackets. I guess i was a "1 watch collection" guy at first, but sometimes it's not sensible to wear a Rolex and sometimes the Hamilton would be too casual. So they all have a purpose when i wear them (i go biking i wear the Hamilton, to the office i wear the IWC, i go on a date i wear the Explorer). The IWC is the hardest to justify, it's middle ground.
Imagine how great the overseas would look if it didn't have the genta-esque flat slab case aesthetic.>inb4 you just want omega lyre lugs on a VC.Yes, it would look great, picrel.captcha: DAT0
>>18565713NPC watch is the Apple Watch
>>18566754We stopped using it some time ago but the anon who made the thread resurrected them.
NIGA
>>18566955YOU CAN'T SAY THAT ON A WHITE DIAL
>>18566914The Overshit will never be a cool watch, because it's explicitly referencing other watches (the RO and the Nautilus), making it de facto a KEK WATCH.That being said, the first gen was at least good looking and "elegant". It was smaller, thinner, simpler and didn't have that godawful over engineered bracelet. They shit the bed with the 2nd gen and succeeded to make it even worse with the 3rd gen.
>>18566751anything made pre quartz crisis
>>18567033If you count reissues or continuations of models that existed before 1975 (?), that's many models (Cartier Tank, most Rolex models, Reverso, IWC Pilot, Zenith Chronomaster...).
>>18567039>most Rolex modelsthere is nothing more soulless than maxi case ceramic bezel Rolex shitters
>>18566751quite literally anything fully in-house, from vostok to patek
NEW THREAD WHEN!!???
>>18567072we signed you on the wait list for a new thread
>>18567079>>18567079>>18567079
NEW THREAD>>18567083>>18567083>>18567083>>18567083>>18567083
>>18567084>forgot the OP info>>18567080this is the one
>previous /wt/ hasn't even 404'd yet>there are now 4 /wt/
>>18567117Watch threads are now mass produced in China, like Rolex watches.
>>18567117all of them sucessfultake that fragrance fags and sneaker fags
>>18564697$200 Watches definatly. The quality today of entry level dress watches isn't there.$300 + Price point seems to open up some decent entry level and you certainly don't need to buy as extreme as Rolex to get a decent watch. Your arguments like saying "all cars except Buggatti are shit". It's blatantly false.
>>18564816I like Seiko but I may never buy another. I had two of the early level 5 Seiko's. Reliability was a serious issue. One I actually returned.
>>18564954Depends where you'll wear it and what with. Blue or Green dials are also good. Red can look good but if you ever want to resell be warned Red like red cars, not for everyone.
>>18565010Considered a cheapo "Fossil" department store that looked like that. Can't bring myself to spend the $100s they want for such a blatant copy. Might as well get spent a couple of grand or find a bargin bin.
>>18566245I'm the guy who made this, thank you for reminding me of how much of my life I've wasted here
>>18566951I'd update it but I'm just not into watches so much these days
This is why I'll never buy one or even wear one gifted to me while they carry their over inflated price. It's like walking around flashing a new iphone.>>18564683This.If your so desperate for clout with your seiko, you can point out to people - its a seiko internal.>>18564801They're another sub brand pissing me off a little. $2000 bucks at one point now they're double that in my country. At that price point they're nolonger worth it. Might as well by an on Sale Omega or something similar.>>18564774The authorised dealer thing has become a bit scammy with watches. I get it if you live 3 hours from the nearest ____ brand repairer but come on most people who buy watches live in cities or aren't so isolated where its a non issue. The authorized monopoly dealer model for watches is a 1920s - 1930s style of thinking.Alot of its nonsense.I know for a fact at the time of this post there's at least 2 brands that will put Swiss made mechanisms in their Japanese cases.They're both sub $250 USD.>>18566245Stupid chart for stupid people. I had a $30 beater digital when I was working as a builder.My grandfather had a Rolex and considered it over rated.You must be a complete bore in real life fella.
>>18566751Neovintage