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The Fragrance Groups 101 Chart

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The Fragrance Flowchart for Beginners

How do I go about gifting a fragrance? This girl friend of mine has a pretty specific taste but I'd like to give a frag that she might enjoy. Ask her what her current one is and risk ruining the surprise?

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Can't wait for the sample

>>18652193
you could gift a discovery set from a house like le labo or etat libre d'orange, some of them also give you an option to include a coupon for a bottle. can get expensive though

>>18652193
are you fucking her? if no, then gifting a full bottle would be weird - a gift set would be probably less creepy (see >>18652195)

>>18652193
If she's Mexican gift her the latest Valentino Born in Roma, or the latest Miss Dior. If she's black gift her BR540 or Kayalin Vanilla. If she's white gift her Jo Malone Wood Sage and Sea Salt. If she's Chinese gift her Byredo Blanche or any Diptyque.

>>18651838
Smells herbal, woody and resinous with subtle floral notes. Truly a masterpiece.

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SOTD 9PM layered with oud attar.

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What does he wear, /frag/?

>>18652193
>she has a pretty specific taste
Unless you're sure she'd like it, either because she said so or she said she liked something very close to it (but in that case why would you give her something very close to what she already has), I'd avoid it.
Frags are quite personal and it's unlikely to find something that fitting at all, let alone without her input.
You make it sound like she's into frags, so a discovery set is a good gift, but if I got the wrong impression and she's not a full bottle could also work if you have good reason to believe she'll like it.

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With the passing years I've come to appreciate sweet frags much more.
I used to avoid sweet stuff with a passion, but I've recently figured I didn't really have anything good for cold weather and after trying out tens of dry tobacco, oud, leather, saffron, vanilla and amber heavy frags I figured I might as well go for something sweet just to see how it felt, and it felt quite right.
Even frags I'd discarded years ago after trying them once or twice feel a lot less cloying and sticky and offensive now, and I'm not sure whether this is related but I seem to have gotten less sensitive to smoky and incensy notes.

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Guys, I just found out if you spray frags on your clothes the smell will last longer.

>>18652273
They smell better too.

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>Guys, I just found out if you spray frags on your clothes the smell will last longer.

>>18652283
Why don't you give it a try?

>>18652284
my frags last long enough on my skin, anything more would be overkill desu
you should also read the OP and educate yourself a bit

>>18652260
>appreciate sweet frags much more
>I seem to have gotten less sensitive
Yes, that is what sweet scents do. That's why people spiral with sweet scents and it becomes an arms race to find the most overly sweet scents because they have been desensitized to everything else. Sweet fragrances are not much different than sugars in diet. The more sugar you eat, the more you'll crave to achieve the same level of satisfaction. Same reason why when you abstain from sugar for a long time even a little bit of sugar will taste very sweet. I try to alternate sweet scents with dry scents. Too many dry scents will make sweet scents intolerable, too many sweet scents will make dry scents muted and indistinct.

That's also why the fragrance landscape is so sweet and gourmand heavy. Even when perfumers have been crying about the gourmand fad being dead for years the public can't break free of their addiction and demands sweeter and sweeter scents.

>>18652294
By this logic sweet frags should have felt unbearably sweet to me after years of exclusively wearing dry stuff, but that's the opposite of what happened.

whats the most challenging frag to pull off? hard mode: no gourmands if you are a straight man

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Assign each month a frag. (you can assign the same frag to several months)
Also tell us what your signature frag is if you have one.

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>>18652251
Tell me I'm wrong

>>18652337
i cant wear the same fragrance in a row for longer than a week
>>18652361
>not polo blue, black, green and red

That video is hilarious! :ROFLMAO:

I love the woman who laughingly says it smells like all of her boyfriends and it smells like a red flag. LOL!

my gf hates the frags i like and likes the frags i hate
its so over

>>18652361
no idea, i know my girl likes it when i wear the sonic one because i was wearing it when we snuck into a pool after hours and fucked so it reminds her of that.

>>18652193
the play here is to get a gift set / sampler set and then you make a game of having her try them on and you guys decide which one to get.

>>18652233
checked, nice, shame I can't really find a bottle

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>>18652337
i don't think i have a signature, but i think if i had to downsize to a single one, it'd be BI
going by what i have in my collection:

>Jan: Musc Ravageur
>Feb: Iron Duke
>March: H24
>May: Colonia CLUB
>June: Green Crush
>July: Fico di Amalfi
>Aug.: Eau Sauvage
>Sept: Hermann
>Oct: Autumn Vibes
>Nov: Baraonda
>Dec: Naxos

>>18652438
fuck forgot April
>Polo Green

>>18652314
>I've come to appreciate sweet frags much more.
>I used to avoid sweet stuff with a passion
That's what you said, you slowly got introduced and exposed to them until they became more palatable. Unless you are talking about the most syrupy cloying sweet scents, going by your image post you're not.

>>18652330
Dior Leather Oud, it's my favorite fragrance but very stinky.

>>18652391
Someone complimented my Mary Kay Tribute for Men, it's on the list of fragrances I'm culling from my collection.

>>18652361
I'm wrong
(you're right, tho)

>sotd: Davidoff Zino

Happy Friday the 13th fraggots
>SotD: 3 Sprays of Tonnerre to the office
Attire - Iron Rangers, suit pants, button up, all black.

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What's the best office/work frag thats
>less than 100USD
>inoffensive, but unique
>good performance
I'm thinking pic rel is one of them, but looking for more

>>18652509
it's my go-to. otherwise i like to wear:
>BdJ
>TdH
>Prada L'Homme
>BI
>Essenza
>Eau Sauvage
>NYI
>Antaeus
>H24

>item marked as delivered
>nothing in mailbox
my day is ruined.

ITS OVER

>>18652563
They do that sometimes, you should get it tomorrow.

>>18652474
I said I've come to appreciate sweet frags, but not because of gradual exposure.
I used to dislike sweet stuff with a passion and so for years I've only wore very dry to somewhat dry frags and barely even tried sweet scents, but recently I've tried a few sweet frags again and I haven't found them nearly as cloying and dislikable as I did a few years ago when I had last tried them.
Things like Le Male, Babycat, BR540, Aventus, Rosendo Mateu N.5, Black Opium...

>>18652587
maybe the delivery guy stole it

>>18652587
I hope you're right

>>18652563
do you live around blacks?

>>18652647
a small amount

Fahrenheit parfum is sweet, but in a oily Castrol R or glycol industrial sort of way and sometimes the honeyed sweaty notes from Kouros can hit really sweet but both are far from gourmands, actually come to think of it
>amber accords
>some woods
>couture heart/diva lavender
all sweet

>>18651849
Too sweet. I say that as someone who doesn't mind a bit of sweetness, but that's just too much for me.

I also don't like the tonka that JPG uses but that's another conversation entirely.

>>18652361
>Knuckles
>Spicebomb Metallic Musk
Why though?

>>18652563
This is why I hate online shopping. There's a 50/50 chance you might get scammed.

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>>18652285
Should I ask AI about this?

>>18652509
Lalique Lion, even if I don’t like the powdery aspect.

>>18652723
That’s the original spicebomb.

>>18652138
>probably look for aldehydes, iso e super, pepper. spicebomb metallic musk or cdg 2 might fit the bill. maybe look at the house of frederic malle.+1 for encre noire.

Recommend me a budget aldehyde not more than 150 USD. Is there any available?

>>18652739
Rien

>>18652735
I thought the original Spicebomb bottle was black

Alright, so I decided to be autistic and spend too much money on cologne after ignoring it forever as a thing. I bought over 20 samplers and tried to strike a balance between the options I had, I also set aside the few I just didn't care for, as well as those I considered but didn't like quite as much or felt I was doubling/tripling up in some cases already.

Here is what I ordered (yes, these are all going to be from the graph):
>Tom Ford Oud Wood
>Tom Ford Ombre Leather
>Tom Ford Vanille Tobacco
>Terre d'Hermes
>JPG Ultra Male
>Gentleman
>Spicebomb
>Dior Homme Intense
>Dior Sauvage

I was also going to purchase two others but Fragrancenet doesn't carry the Parfum d'Empire I wanted, and Amouage Interlude 53 is out of stock. Assume I am going to buy the other two at some point. With this list of 11, am I pretty well covered or are there blindspots I am missing?

>>18652815
which PdE?
also i hope you are buying _Eau_ Sauvage (and not Sauvage) which is a completely different frag (+it's great and it's actually on the chart)

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>>18652194
Sample arrived. Turns out that the most hyped Mancera is literally a floral aquatic like CK One or Acqua di Gio. Zoomers and hypefags should be gased. Montale Sandflowers still at Nr.1.
Sotd Cool Water

>>18652821
>Eau
Yes, that one.
>Which PdE
Cuir Ottoman

>>18652839
then it's an okay selection (although a bit designer heavy for my taste but ofc ymmv)

>>18652843
Speaking frankly, these names mean nothing to me. I only know Tom Ford because I saw that movie starring Jake Gyllenhaal and then I found out from here he was a fashion dude, and I couldn't tell you one designer's brand prestige from another. I know JPG, have I ever owned anything by him? Nope. Same for Ford. Dior, also not the case. Believe me, I wasn't looking to shell out hundreds of dollars on a bottle, but if the 25 (I just recounted them) samples, those 11 were the ones I liked enough over the other 14. A few of which I liked enough I would buy anyway even if I felt that I already had something else picked that smelled similar to it (at least to me). Frankly, I liked Amouage Interlude 53 the most out of all of them, it's just a shame it's out of stock.

>>18652260
>>18652294
I used to work with older people and their sense of taste and smell slowly degrade as they age, so it's really common for them to start wanting sweeter and sweeter foods. The stereotype of old ladies wearing too much perfume probably has a similar basis, they can't smell that it's overpowering to younger people. Not saying this is you, but people's senses do change over time.

>>18652815
NOOOOOOOO anon don't buy the tom slop!!!!! NOOOOOO your neetbux.....

>>18652857
This is great information, thank you.

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>>18652823
>CK One
>floral
>aquatic

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>>18652509
>that
>office friendly

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>>18652823
>most hyped Mancera
That would be Red Tobacco

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>>18652815
>>JPG Ultra Male
Please tell me you are not gay.

>>18652651
Are you from Detroit?

>there's a fragrance general on 4chan
imagine the smell

>>18652739
Rien fits the aldehyde bill, but I think it will make you smell scary and unhinged, not austere
If you want austere I would go for some vetiver or something dark smelling like Antaeus. Hermann by ELDO, maybe something from CDG.

Or if you want something leaning feminine, Chanel no. 19 is the perfect austere women's fragrance.

>>18652875
Why don't you think so?

>>18652891
My mom hated the smell

>>18652815
You're missing a fougere of some sort, like azzaro pour homme or drakkar noir or even the OG Le Male. Could probably do with a classic cologne too like acqua di parma, but I guess if you like eau sauvage, you should like those too.
I'd personally swap out the tom fords for something cheaper as they are overpriced nowadays. Aside from the leather, as they popularized that modern style of leather fragrance and are a good reference for it. But I guess for samples it's fine.

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>>18652883
How come there are no shaving general on /fa/?

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Newfag getting into fragrances. Already bought a handful of samples it's addicting. Any advice for me?

>>18652878
Cedrat Boisee is also hyped because it's similar to Sneed Amogus. It's like a really bad take on that DNA too, smells quite horrid

>>18652896
which samples?

>>18652896
Don't buy too many full bottles too quickly, your tastes may change quickly and you'll be stuck with stuff you don't like anymore.

>>18652899
>the one d&g
>bdc parfum, edp
>leu d issey pour homme
>swy intensely
>rayhaan lion
>khamrah qawah
>afnan supremacy CE
>hawas ice

>>18652901
basic/10 but not too bad for a first haul
the usual advice for newfriends is still valid: read the OP, check the charts and lurk moar

>>18652905
They're just samples so I'm still learning. Which do I keep here? Looking for general appeal first, then I'll branch off to my own tastes once they develop further. Even though ME frags aren't expensive, it adds up especially with a hobby like this.

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>>18652901
>>hawas ice
Please tell me you are not Indian

>>18652912
I'm not. Just saw it hyped up on social media so I thought why not buy a sample

>>18652894
they always devolve into the same retarded bullshit

>>18652901
>samples
>samples of clones
>samples of arabshit

how low can one fall?

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>>18652919
>social media
I hope you don't watch zoomer reviews on Tiktok

>>18652924
>caring about what other people are sampling
You're the bottom

>>18652896
Quit right now, never look back, it's not worth it. I fell into the deep and got out on my own, but my account is still painfully dry

I wish to smell like I sweat ouzo

>>18652950
Ten bottles MAX and I won't buy anything else until one of them is finished or given away

>>18652942
>implying I care

>>18652979
Too many. 7 is plenty, 1 for each day of the week or about 2 per season.

>>18652908
>Which do I keep here?
you keep the samples you like, simple as
(i'm not too fond of arabslop tho but at the end of the day you can wear whatever you want)

>>18652979
>one hundred and fifty bottles MAX (maybe more)
ftfy

>>18652804
You’re probably thinking of its first (very popular) flanker, Spicebomb Extreme.

>>18652815
Honestly you did pretty good Anon, a genuine, basic bitch blue fragrance is never a bad idea to have on hand, but other than that yeah, you’ve got most if not all your bases covered.

>>18652182
>get a tom ford discovery kit
>hate them all except the most mild version of Black Orchid and Ombré Leather
Fuck, am I a pleb? Should I just stick to designer crowd pleasers? What’s a good way to explore some niche, diverse stuff? Like a good discovery kit to get with some variety

>>18653014
>tom ford
lol, lmao even
>am I a pleb?
only if you hated Grey Vetiver or Beau de Jour, those are not bad

>>18653015
grey vetiver is boring and bdj is zino but worse in EVERY single way

>>18653025
yes but at least they are not bad

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I strongly disagree with the notion that Oud for Greatness is a BR540 for men, it's rather BR540 if it were bad.
Encens Suave instead is BR540 if it were for men.
I'm also still mulling about Casbah reformulations, if anyone thought one bottle smelled much smokier and another one much greener than another or some such, please let me know.
And happy valentine's xoxo

>>18653036
I wish I could have 2 Man with the strength of Full Incense. Or CDG Black, for that matter.

>>18653036
>br540
>not bad
shiggydiggy

>>18653036
also there is a typo in there
Heely -> Heeley

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is antaeus overkill for the office? my bottle isnt a silver sprayer either

>>18653014
Tom Ford is a designer crowd pleaser brand, anon
And a lot of their newer fragrances are just not good. But no real reason to hate the classics loke grey vetiver, black orchid or the OG Noir

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>>18652866
I will eat bugs for a while, but I'll make it.
>>18652881
N-no.
>>18652893
Samples? Also, thanks for the advice.
>>18653006
Cool. I'll look into that as well.

I like Tom Ford's Lost Cherry but i'm not going to spend that much when spraying myself with maraschino liqueur would probably achieve the same thing

>>18653060
1-2 under the shirt works for almost all frags, more if weaker obviously

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>>18653045
>innovative and unusual
>characteristic and recognizable
>massively popular
Regardless of how you might like it, BR540 is a great frag.
>>18653048
Thanks.

>>18653072
>Samples? Also, thanks for the advice
Ah, they are full bottles. I would recommend not buying that many at once desu, your tastes may change. If you get really autistic you might be more into, say, old school Guerlains or indie perfumery in a year or two.
But I hope you enjoy them

>>18653025
That's funny, I find Grey Vetiver very interesting and complex, maybe because it's my only vetiver centered fragrance. I don't consider it dull or understated.

>>18653110
Don't listen to anon too much, it's a good fragrance. Guerlain Vetiver is more complex but somewhat less inoffensive

Is it redundant to buy the edp version of bleu de chanel if already have a bottle of edt?

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Anyone know of a reputable ebay seller selling this?

>>18653150
Yes, they are very similar

>>18653150
yeah

>>18653036
>chart doesn't have eau des baux
it's literally renamed cedar incense now

>>18652896
Quickly learn what you like and don't like so you can stop wasting money on samples.

>>18653098
>BR540 is a great frag
we can agree to disagree, anon
imo even all those together won't make it a great frag

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Thoughts on this?

>>18653189
Well, what makes it a bad frag then?

>>18653060
I can’t speak to your question directly because I only got my bottle 6 months ago and haven’t worn it at all BUT, any frag can be office safe if you build them up to it. Get people used to you being ‘the cologne guy’ and progressively work up from a few sprays of blues and other crowd pleasers to less traditional frags. I wore 3 sprays of Tonnerre on Friday and no one said a word. I’ve worn 4-5+ sprays of Sauvage Elixir and people love it, one woman even came up to me at the end of the day asking what it was because she wanted some for her husband. (You can also do this >>18653099 )

>SotD: Antaeus
Happy V-Day fraggots

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>going for a walk with my white GF
>We get along really well, laugh a lot
>A brown girl walks across from us
>She looks at us full of envy, anger, and frustration
>We enjoyed our time together, and we had sex later
I hope you had a wonderful Valentine's Day. Thank God for those blue eyes. Sotd A cheaper/better dupe of Xerjoff Naxos.

>>18653150
It wouldn’t be a bad replacement once you run the EdT dry, but as the others said, owning both simultaneously is rather redundant.
I’d like to eventually go through a bottle of each, I started with the EdP and picked up L’Exclusif on release because I had run the EdP out a month or two earlier. No desire to revisit L’Exclusif once the bottle is empty.

>>18653159
Not the chart maker, and I love EdB, but it doesn’t strike me as incense-y.

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debating getting this or flower and flames

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Im running low on this. Should I just get more of it?

>>18653110
the only thing I see/feel when smelling it is guy in his 30s or 40s, officeworker, business casual
it's so safe and boring that when presented with other vetivers I can't see a reaon to buy it, it's a competent frag, one of TF's best but I can't ever see myself wearing it
>>18653114
>less inoffensive
you mean less boring?

>>18653159
it's not an incense frag, though
>>18653219
if you like it then yeah

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>>18653198
>Well, what makes it a bad frag then?
wearing a sample now - to my nose it is very synthetic (smells mainly like a hospital waiting room), has little to no progression and costs about 250 bucks for a 70ml bottle

>>18653060
>is antaeus overkill for the office?
no, in it's current form a few sprays should be fine (depends on the office and the line of work ofc)

>SOTD: Baccarat Rouge 540 EDP
see above

>>18652563
ok it was simply delivered the next day.

>>18653259
cheers, anon
what was it?

>>18653060
i wear it regularly to the office with no issues

>>18653214
>>18653235
then what even is it?

>>18652901
>bdc parfum, edp
I don't think you need both, they're very similar, just get the stronger parfum and be done. also these blue fragrances are suited for younger guys

>>18653259
and what is that "it" that has been delivered?
>>18653266
spicy 'nilla, falls into the oriental category (maybe)

>>18653151
Damn I wanna get it as well because I tested it and loved it, there's a local store that sells testers of it for 40% off. I heard that the base Light Blue 2025 is a bit more intense, like a midterm between the subtle OG and Intense, and that Intense is being discontinued because of people saying it smells like egg...nonsense.

>>18653151
When looking on eBay, look at how many transactions the seller has done AND their rating %. If it's not in the hundreds and not above 95%, don't bother.

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>>18652182
If I like Kouros is picrel worth blind purchasing
>narcissus
I dont know what this smells like but am worried I'll smell a bit Mohammad Ali

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Can someone help me id this

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>>18653310
the back

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have any you guys tried it?

>>18653256
>it's bad because I don't like how it smells
I think that's hardly a relevant metric, I don't like how Aventus smells but I certainly wouldn't call it a bad frag.
>has no progression
That's fair, but don't you think there are good frags with little change from start to finish?
Like Acqua di Sale or Sultan Vetiver.
>it's overpriced
I don't think it's so overpriced considering how it performs, but if you found a bad frag costing 1 dollar per bottle I don't think you'd find it any less bad, so the price might make the frag a better or worse value, but it doesn't change anything about the frag itself.

>>18653232
>guy in his 30s or 40s, officeworker, business casual
I actually agree but it's not boring and drone-like to me, I get jovial and distinguished. The citrus is crystalline and the woodiness is vintage, with some uplifting aromatics. You made me curious about other vetivers, I'll look into them.

>>18653290
This but 99%+ ratings only. Also make sure the bad ratings are not too recent, and that the seller doesn't reply to the negative comments with personal attacks and aggressive replies.

>>18653310
Label is the same as some bottles of Shalimar Eau de Cologne but that never came in a square bottle. Label would also match the legendaires series labels for samsara and champs elysses but I’m having a hard time finding those releases in square bottles with that label.

>>18653290
I always look through their negative reviews and only stick to those with high sales and 99% ratings. even then you could have clueless resellers selling fakes, but typically they want to maintain their reputation and will provide a refund.

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>>18653310
>>18653353
Found this

>>18653194
Terrible longevity,
Get ck one essence, it follows the same profile but more mature and full of longevity. Its super reduced on amazon ;)

>>18653260
spicebomb

>>18653266
It registers as (an excellent blend of) spicy sweet woody, I think I don’t get enough sweet smoke (emphasis on smoke) for it to register as incense.

Many people (rightfully so) recognize it as Tobacco Vanille before Tobacco Vanille.

(More words in parentheticals, because reasons)

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>>18653316
>I don't like how it smells
>I think that's hardly a relevant metric
Not only is it relevant, it's the only thing that's relevant. Fragrance is 100% subjective and pretending it's not is pure marketing and shillery.

Had a really cool opportunity today.
I got to sample a legitimate bottle of Hermes Doblis EDC from 1955
Do you care what I thought of it?

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If you think the poorfag reddit Indians have bad taste, you have no idea about the absolute affront to decency that is rich facebook indians

>>18653353
>>18653370
thank you!

>>18653426
I'm curious, never heard of it but a vintage leather rose sounds cool.

>>18653458
The rose doesn't really shine through until a couple hours in. The beginning is a clean and fresh leather more reminiscent of a new car tire rather than a handbag, while also powdery in a baby powder sense, not a lipstick-sense.

There's also this crisp, biting undertone that reminds me a lot of the aldehydic vetiver in TF Grey Vetiver, but much more feminine and smooth.

I guess maybe think of it smelling like a leathery, rose La Croix soft drink? It's kind of like that.

>>18653464
Wow, thanks. It's a crime these ancient fragrances aren't kept alive.

>>18653429
why are saars like this

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Why are all aquatic fragrances smell cheap to me? They all have that drugstore ozonic quality. I’ve only liked a few such as Megamare and that one. Aqua di gio with incense note. The rest are all bs.

i remember when $280 for TF private blend and $350 for aventus were considered exorbitant, nearly prohibitive prices for a cologne but it seems to me like nowadays that would be a lower-mid-tier pricepoint considering some of the designer stuff i've seen

>>18653302
>worth blind purchasing
unless you have a bunch of cash, no
I'm also curious about what this smells like so if someone knows and could share that would be nice

I think I may be a noselet. I got the Parfum de Nicolai discovery kit and hate everything so far. It's all reminding me too much of 70s designers like OG Gentleman and Versace L'Homme. Stinky grandpa armpit accords all round, even the freshies have this grandpa cologne lemon top. New York Intense is the worst. I can't imagine anyone wearing this in current year except to make some sort of statement about appreciating perfume history.

my samples came in
>santal 33 -- 2/10
really nauseating for me
>the noir 29 -- 5.5/10
>the matcha 26 -- 3.5/10
better than santal but also nauseating
>l'eau d'issey pour homme -- 6/10
inoffensive but also very boring
>initio narcotic delight --- 6.5/10
it's like if axe made a niche quality gourmand
>eldo hermann -- 7/10
>eldo ghost in the shell -- 6/10
>terre d'hermes eau givree -- 7/10
prefer the original
>kenzo homme edp -- 2/10
interesting but again nauseating for me
>silver mountain water -- 5/10
smells good but very overpriced, bad projection, bad presentation for the price, minus 3 points
>millesime imperial -- 6/10
same as above
>le sel d'issey -- 6.5/10
same critique as l'eau d'issey
>acqua di gio -- 3.5/10
liked it on a tester strip. very disappointed with the performance and skin scent.

>>18652908
qahwa is overrated if you ask me. try to avoid arab stuff. it's so easy to waste money and be disappointed. definitely try tom ford noir extreme and stronger with you intensely for gourmands.

>>18653316
>I think that's hardly a relevant metric
it is tho, it smells objectively synthetic as hell
>don't you think there are good frags with little change from start to finish?
not really, no
>I don't think it's so overpriced
it's overpriced by all metrics
>how it performs
yeah, i still smell it on my hand but i don't think a frag lasting forever is a good thing

>>18653408
cheers, anon
how is the performance of the current batch?

>>18653429
kek

>>18653481
maybe you don't like calone

>>18653509
>I think I may be a noselet
yeah, probably
or maybe her classic style is not for you
which frags do you like?

>>18653512
I agree with Silver Mountain Water.
It smells like mint shampoo to me. It's my dad's favorite fragrance though. Maybe if I get older I'll appreciate it more it but it smells mediocre to my nose

>>18653515
yeah, it's not something i could justify for the $300+. forgot to mention but noir extreme was also in this haul and was the one real hit out of all of them. i'll probably get a small bottle of hermann as well

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>>18653509
Imagine listen to the Nicolai tranny, niche slops and greedy tards here. Best fragrances i tested lately cost only 7-10 bucks.

>>18653517
cope, seethe and dilate
also post some of those frags

>>18653513
No, calone is different. It's the melon-like / eggy accord to some nose, I haven't encountered it yet. The one that I hate in aquatic ones is super syntehtic to my nose, I experienced it in fragranced with lotus note. I actually have had lotus blacklisted in my fragrantica lol.

>>18653509
zoomers are too far gone...

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>there are Anons that never sprayed this on after gym class
>there are Anons that never had sex with Mandy K. at Trevor G.'s house party when his parents went on a cruise the summer after freshman year

>>18653528
>go back to order a bottle of fierce after all these years
>notice it’s Eua de Cologne
>remember old fierce being an absolute monster, 2-3 sprays filling up the whole room
Am I misremembering? Or do the concentration labels not mean jack? Or has my nose gotten weaker over the years? Also, I ordered a travel size of this recently and Amazon delivered me nail polish today. Second time they’ve ever messed up an order but damn, I was looking forward to it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-15560415/toxic-chemicals-perfume-hair-loss-weight-gain.html

>>18653533
>paywall
lol, lmao, roflmao even

>>18653535
If only there were a way around this that takes all of 10 seconds

>>18653536
>10 seconds
still too much effort to read literal daily mail slop

>>18653537
Yeah, it's not as if the article doesn't mention in detail the study in question and also lists the ingredients in several fragrances.
Please keep making insightful comments

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>>18653533
Now you know why I only wear Arab fragrances.
SOTD: 9PM Rebel.

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>>18653469
They want to cover their BO

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>>18653528
A german milf complemented me on Fierce. She says that it smells like "men".

>>18653553
You have strange taste in women I tell you what.

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>>18653533
Imagine buying these "elitist" high priced slop, which reduce your Test and will turn you into a cuck, sharing your wife or will grow you some nice tits with large areolas.
>>18653549
Based.

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All you need

>>18653549
Don't imagine arab fragrances being safer

>>18653416
>it's all subjective, cheap low quality arab clones aren't bad
>>18653513
>if I don't like it it's objectively bad
>if you personally don't like those frags you're a noselet

Rate my birthday presents lads

>Platinum Égoïste
>FM French Lover
>Ormonde Jayne Verano

>>18653580
8.5/10
overpriced crap
idk

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How come there's no lavender in this??

It's very strong in the opening, up until like 30 minutes. Unlisted note? Maybe my sample is mislabled, what the heck...

>>18653504
I really hope the price bubble on perfume bursts at some point, surely people should notice that markups have increased dramatically and there are a lot of trash releases for 400$ a bottle

>>18653573
>all that seethe over MFK slop
meh

>>18653580
>Frech Lover
based (Pierre Bourdon is a genius)
>Platinum Egoiste
not bad
>Verano
don't know that frag

>>18653605
don't get your hopes up

>>18653613
>this is a good frag, here's why
>actually it's bad because I don't like it
>you're using double standards
>actually this frag is bad (because I don't like it) and also you're seething
Huh.

>>18653509
same, whole line up smells like ambrocenide and lavander. for the future, never forget to ignore /frag/

Demachy is genius but he’s a sellout
I call him the Taylor Swift of perfumery
but taylor aint genius tho

>>18653630
>demachy is genius
I've been wearing fahrenheit la parfum all weekend and layered the edt this morning. It is a legendary combo

>>18653509
>I got the Parfum de Nicolai discovery kit and hate everything so far.
>falling for an obvious shill of a ghost perfumer brand that buys formulas discarded by other brands
You live and you learn anon. Just avoid all brands that are solely inorganic online marketing, it's easy. If you can't tell stick to designer. There are only a few brands outside designer like Frederic Malle and L'Artisan Perfumer that aren't scams but even those you have to stick to their early formulations.

>>18653512
Thank you for your report, I wonder why you find so many fragrances nauseating, are you sensitive to fragrances in general or a specific note?

>>18653522
Its probably Aldehydes, maybe aldehyde c-10. It has a sharp somewhat metallic note thats not listed in a lot of aquatics, and is very common in cheap perfumes. Some people describe it as smelling like dryer sheets or detergent.

>>18653630
How is he a sellout?

>>18653602
It's a clone of Mugler Cologne, if it doesn't smell like that you got the wrong sample.

Is there a respectable fragrance for a young man under $30?

>>18653686
cool water

>>18653686
drakkar noir

>>18653686
Get a 10 mil of Bois Imperial, if you don't mind very long lasting synthetic green woody scents.

>>18653686
I just picked up a 75ml bottle of L’eau D’Issey Pour Home Intense from the cheapies shelf of my drugstore for $20. I think discounters are carrying it for $30-40. Honestly very impressed with it. Its fresh spicy with a nice zesty citrus supported with nutmeg and airy resins. Very all season and appropriate for casual and formal wear. Great longevity too. It’s made by Belletrud who is making all the fragrances for LV, and you can see there’s a bit of compositional overlap in the clear, crisp, and defined structure in the Issey and the LVs I’ve tried. Probably the best bang for your buck fragrance I’ve come across and certainly the best in that price range.

>>18653705
I just picked up a 75ml bottle of L’eau D’Issey Pour Home Intense from the cheapies shelf of my drugstore for $20. I think discounters are carrying it for $30-40. Honestly very impressed with it. Its fresh spicy with a nice zesty citrus supported with nutmeg and airy resins. Very all season and appropriate for casual and formal wear. Great longevity too. It’s made by Belletrud who is making all the fragrances for LV, and you can see there’s a bit of compositional overlap in the clear, crisp, and defined structure in the Issey and the LVs I’ve tried. Probably the best bang for your buck fragrance I’ve come across and certainly the best in that price range.

>>18653532
EdC, EdT, EdP, etc aren't actually standardized industry wide and have a lot of variation as to the actual range of fragrance concentration. Its not a reliable way to gauge the "strength" of a perfume. Materials also matter just as much if not more than fragrance concentrations; their molecular makeup has a big impact on things like longevity and ease of projection

>>18653716
That's fantastic, folks, absolutely fantastic. You picked up that L’eau D’Issey Pour Homme Intense for just $20? What a deal! I love deals like that – it's like when I built Trump Tower, got the best materials at the lowest prices, nobody does it better. And this fragrance, made by that Belletrud guy who's doing all the Louis Vuitton stuff? Tremendous. LV, by the way, they love me over there – I know luxury, believe me. Fresh, spicy, zesty citrus with nutmeg? Sounds like a winner, all-season, casual or formal, lasts forever. Best bang for your buck? You're right, probably the greatest in that price range. I might have to grab a bottle myself – make America smell great again!

>>18653722
>>>/pol/

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I have and enjoy bottles of:
cdg2
TdH
Guerlain Homme
D&G The One

Thinking about picking up this but also like the tester I have of Dior Homme Sport. Curious if you guys have any other suggestions for stuff I might like to try out.

>>18653722
Hey, that's actually kind of amazing! You snagged a solid fragrance for just $20 on the cheapies shelf? Love that for you. In a world where big luxury brands like Louis Vuitton charge hundreds for basically the same quality DNA, finding something high-performing and versatile like L’eau D’Issey Pour Homme Intense at drugstore prices is a straight-up win for regular people.Fresh citrus with that spicy nutmeg kick and those airy resins? Sounds clean, confident, and honestly perfect for everyday—whether you're heading to a rally, the office, or just out living your life. And the fact that it's from the same nose behind a lot of LV's crisp, defined compositions? That's exactly the kind of thing that shows how the ultra-rich get the same expertise we can access for a fraction of the cost when we're smart about it.We shouldn't have to pay insane markups just to smell good or feel put-together. Affordable access to nice things—fragrances, clothes, housing, healthcare—should be the baseline, not a "find." This is the kind of discovery that reminds me why we fight for an economy that works for everybody, not just the folks who can drop $300 on a bottle without blinking.Grabbed myself a bottle yet? You might have just found the people's scent of the year. Keep those budget gems coming—love hearing about them!

>>18653532
>Am I misremembering
no, it was 100% reformulated due to regulation changes like oakmoss bans

>>18653532
The original bottles didn’t have the specific “Eau de Cologne” distinction, just “Fierce Cologne,” and it’s an American brand where cologne means male and perfume means female, so it’s very likely that at some point they just slapped “Eau de Cologne” on the boxes to match other brands, regardless of the oil concentration.

Also what >>18653787 said, they could have just cheapened the overall formula once it was past its glory and due to material bans.

i was at a friends place the other day and noticed he had a sample pack of fulton and roark fragrances. i thought they smelt nice. i decided to look them up and saw that they are one of those fragrance brands heavily advertised on instagram.
is this brand actually legit good or just over priced influencer shit? i get fragrances can be pretty pricey but want to make sure its actually worth the price and not just expensive because "social media".
i normally dont use fragrances so im like a noob to all of this stuff, which is why im here asking.

>>18653861
a frag is worth as much as you're willing to pay for it

if you really like it and know you will wear it and have the money then buy it
"worth the price" is more a consideration when collecting or when a better/similar alternative exists

>>18653861
Just look at the ones you like on fragrantica and see what they're a copy of. If it's cheaper you can get the clone but usually you can get the original cheaper.

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Should I get this or the sport flanker?

>>18653912
the extreme version is probably the best > sport > og

>>18653663
i'm thinking it's leather and violet, especially when combined like dior fahrenheit or santal 33. those are the only times fragrances that have given me headaches. maybe fig also.

>>18653940
That's sucks Fahrenheit gives you a headache, is it both violet and violet leaf?

>>18653912
sport is bad imo. the original is good because it's minimalist, intense, and it lets the iso e super come to the front while enhancing its qualities. sport makes it acidic and puts it into unwearable territory. the grapefruit makes the dryness of it even more abrasive. it loses the positive aspects of encre noire while also failing to be a good sport fragrance. if you've tried the original and like it, get that. it's good. in a similar vein you should also check out terre d'hermes, etat libre d'orange hermann, maybe dior homme sport
>>18653968
probably just violet leaf. it's fine in some cases so the issue is really leather and it's worse when combined with green notes

>>18652182
why do you guys keep asking for the most boring "office" fragrances? don't you want to stand out? don't you have a sense of individuality? sotd chanel cuir de russie

>>18653912
Do you want it as a summer freshie or more of a general whole year scent that isn't so refreshing?

>>18653972
>why do you guys keep asking for the most boring "office" fragrances?
they're beginners looking for their first safe fragrance
>don't you want to stand out?
not everyone wants to stand out in the office
>don't you have a sense of individuality?
wearing a fragrance you like is already very individualistic

>>18653972
Once you grow up you’ll realize you don’t always need to stand out and that wearing a “stand out” perfume isn’t in any way a substitute for a personality.

>>18653913
>>18653971
>>18653983
Looking for something to wear on rainy nights and on dates. Seems there isn't a consensus on which version is the best since I've read differing opinions on other sites.

>>18654079
Standing out is a package. If you approach interactions overthinking how people smell like an autist then you'd stand out alright.

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>>18654095

>>18653972
"standing out" is a meme because people don't care nearly as much about fragrance as you do. you'd probably smell unique wearing bdc or aqua da gio to 99% of people around you

>>18653733
The vocabulary here is too large to be an effective imitation

Am I crazy or does Born in Roma Intense have a tobacco note?

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>>18653570
You never wear one.

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>>18653314
That doesn't look unisex.

>>18653302
The boxer?

>>18654137
No, the accountant. Sorry, I should have been more specific.

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This is genuinely the most disgusting one sampled yet. Expected refreshing coconut on a summer day and instead got syrupy nauseating extra virgin coconut oil. Are all coconut frags like this?

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>>18654167
The only coconut fragrance I owned is Asad Zanzibar. It doesn't smell like syrup or whatever you described. Try it, especially if the weather is hot.

>>18654093
I prefer the Extreme, but they are all pretty good. It's like the original but with some incense and resins, I find it more comfy than the very austere original. Sport has quite weak performance but is good in high heat.

>>18654167
I like Jpg paradise garden a lot more. To my nose it’s the least “jpg” of the main line, it has far less of that sweet rubbery-ness. But if you’re really sensitive to sweet stuff maybe it’s still too much. I also like coral fantasy, which is pretty tropical to me despite lacking coconut as a listed accord.

>>18654191
Sweetness is fine as long as it isn't heavily syrupy. Love the DNA of Ultra Male.
>>18654175
I think I'll pass on anything coconut. Shit made me want to puke I don't want to smell anything remotely close to it for the next six months.

>>18654196
i had the same experience with ds & durga debaser

Are there any ME or clone fragrances that aren't a meme? So far the only one I like is Afnan Supremacy CE.

>>18654199
Lattafa Oud for Glory, Armaf Club de Nuit Milestone are Sillage are very close to their originals
people liking them is a different matter tho, i think they are okay

>>18654199
If there is, I haven’t smelled it. I do agree that supremacy CE is pretty solid tho and wish more fragrances used a birch note. But yea, the rest of the hyped clones/dupes out there just seem like over complicated, synthetic messes to me. They must really hook up all those influencers, I’d hate to imagine someone is selling out just to get a free bottle every once in awhile.

>>18654207
>influencer
Any actual decent one that isn't a stealth shill?

>>18654199
teriaq intense, it's perfumed by quentin bisch. similar base to le male elixir but less aggressive and different top notes. it's somewhere in-between a club and date fragrance. not a clone of anything. liquid brun is also good although i haven't smelled the original althair. i like it as a clone because there's no way i'm spending $400+ on anything from parfums de marly
>>18654207
definitely. i have khamrah and it's disgustingly sweet, very overrated

>>18654167
>is this cheap arab frag a good representation of all coconut frags?
Obviously not.
Some of you people are out of your minds.
Try Curaçao Bay and Virgin Island Water.

>>18654199
Quite a lot, but as with anything else it's mostly up to preference. I for one think Teriaq Intense is conspicuously overrated but anon above recommends it, and it's going to be like that for any frag. If something catches your eye try a sample.
>>18654209
>is there anyone whose income depends on shilling products and services who isn't a shill?
No.

>>18654223
Surely there must be some autist that simply wants to review frags

I want a Halloween X Man but less sweet, keeping the coffee, but adding something fresh. Which one is better?

>>18654236
That would be The Gay Dragon, but I wouldn’t call him an influencer. Definitely acoustic levels of knowledge, and I enjoy the history and occasional chemistry aspects he covers.

>>18654238
Could try Terre d'Hermes intense if you want a fresh perfume with coffee

>>18654236
The smaller non-commercial ones can be good
The gay dragon (varanis ridari) is knowledgeable with good taste, but can be a drama queen
I liked Ramsay but I think he's not active anymore
Persolaise was alright too

>>18654244
Ramsey just shilled for artisanal perfumers to get free shit and his ex wife took his fragrance collection in the divorce for her bull.
Persolaise is a middle eastern anglophile who hates mainstream and popular fragrances while he shills the most irrelevant niche brands to fellate the perfumers and get interviews, samples, and insider points.
Everyone who isn't a big brand shill ends up being a shill for niche, independent, and artisanal brands.

>>18654236
chris from scentland the land of scent

>>18654236
>autist
Like Jeremy?

>>18654242
>lava
>fresh
What?

>>18654244
that faggot literally makes up stuff 99% of the time and his taste is montale tier. always ignore /frag/

SOTD: Valentino Purple Meloncholia

Tested it earlier in the shop, vaguely lavender and strong coconut oil. It mostly smells like coconut though. Strong almost cloying suncream smell I associate with skin cream.
It is neither purple nor meloncholic, awful marketing, meh scent.

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>>18654277
Montale Sandflowers is god-tier, tho

>>18654277
he literally doesn't

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>>18654209
>any influencer that isn’t a shill
Nah, they’re all pretty much trash that’s why I use the term “influencer” not “content creator” (which is code for ad creator), but there’s a few I still watch. If I was completely above out shitass culture I wouldn’t be posting here about a hobby of consumption. That being said, there’s a couple that have enough integrity/shame to acknowledge basic reality and aren’t just complete whores. The bar is so low I’m referring to people who will break down a fragrance and give you some facts like:
>this fragrance has an extremely strong iris accord, if you don’t like iris it’s def not for you
Or
>this other one has an iris accord, but it’s very subtle and blends well, I would sample but you may like it if you enjoy florals but aren’t that into iris.
Noel I’ll watch, that Gentscents guy in the background at work. But even then you just gotta disregard their opinion if it’s generous towards dupes because it’s prob bias.

>>18654272
It's a spicy, woody citrus fragrance with coffee, anon

>>18654283
ash is perhaps the shilliest shill around
and get off your high horse faggot

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Hi, I want to get my dad (50+ yo) a fragrance since he got a new position at work and shit.
I've been torn between BCDP / AHSEE, something different than he usually wears, he really likes Polo / Boss / CH fragrances.
Which one would be better for office use? He is very expressive with his hands if that matters.
Also open for suggestions that land somewhere similar as long as it's around the same price tag.

>>18654304
Could consider Dior Homme or Terre d'Hermes too

>>18652413
Very rare as it was discontinued. If you're lucky you can get a 7ml sample for around £20.

>>18652509
Burberry - Touch

>>18654310
Thanks! I'll consider those two, going to give them a try today.

>>18654304
guerlain vetiver

>>18654304
platinum egoiste is also great if he doesnt already have it

>>18654304
check out some of the classic Hermes frags as well if you can
>Eau de Hermes
>Rocabar
>Bel Ami/Bel Ami Vetiver
>Equipage

>>18654296
You should try to learn to read and comprehend before you have an emotional reaction. It’s womanly first of all, and secondly it’ll just lead you astray

>>18654345
Platinum Egoiste is the most boring and generic men's fragrance of all time. You'd have be a brain dead NPC to like that type of fresh fougere.

>>18654304
Get him something from Rogue. Bon Monsieur, Mousse Illuminee, a touch less office safe but Tabac Vert.

>>18654376
point to me on the doll where platinum egoiste touched you, anon

>>18654304
Can’t go wrong with YSL. Either La Nuit or Lhomme Parfum could be good choices for an older guy. Montblanc has some good stuff like legend blue and explorer that are good bang for your buck and very inoffensive for the office. The silver bottle Ralph’s club is pretty popular and fits what you listed too. Or you could mix it up and get something from Replica. Like if he is into cigars get Jazz Club. Or if he’s a boat guy Sailing day is a solid scent. Really depends on how risky you want to go, buying fragrances for someone else blind can be very tricky. There’s safety in sticking to basic designers but with more info you could get way more specific.

>>18654304
dont purchase from ebay

>>18654375
you are a nigger

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>winter is almost over
>have yet to wear all my winter fragrances

>>18654426
start reapplying 4 times a day to make the best of the remaining days

>>18654451
I only spray after I shower and winter fragrances last all day. At least with summer fragrances I can try something else on when I get home.

>>18654223
>Teriaq Intense is conspicuously overrated
I would say it's a better cheapie than ck shock but it's really not super usable which is the same problem I have with le male elixir. The rating is definitely inflated by arabs and tiktok kids
>>18654272
The edp intense version
>>18654279
Does it have the invictus bubblegum dna still?
>>18654209
Jeremy fragrance's older videos
>>18654511
I use the ones I want to get rid of as room spray

Old spice smells pretty good in cold weather, around the 6c.

Is there anything like Babycat with more smoke/incense and less leather?
Asking for a friend.

>>18654095
Exactly, so why seethe about “boring office fragrances”? No one gives a fuck, if you want female attention they will like anything that smells fresh and clean doesn’t matter how generic.

>>18654526
Vanagloria

>>18654512
>invictus bubblegum dna
It is unmistakably Born in Roma salty ginger iris undertones, too youthful for me but it's actually alot fresher than I initially had given it credit for but that sun cream assocation is hard to get past

>sotd: Pardon
Reminds me of M7, but way stronger. So I like it.

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In like a month it'll finally be Mugler Cologne weather again

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I think type of fabric matter in longevity of a fragrance. I wore Terre D'Hermes EDP in my work attire (made of a shitty polyester cotton mix) and it projected less than 3 hours. Meanwhile on my casual cotton shirt I get whiffs of it from a across my room when I change after a day. It's insane.

>>18654624
TdH is Iso e super bomb, you'll get noseblindness from it

Some dude from fragrantica got mad just because I said I use Virgin Island Water for office wear. Are all other autists like this?

>>18654633
just scroll up and youll find plenty of autists getting mad over fragrances

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>touted as compliment magnet by comments on other sites
Really? What am I missing? Just smells like I bathed in sugar water.

>>18654650
Compliments are a psyop, do you really think anyone out there is complimenting the pajeets that wears this shit?

>>18654659
I make sure to check that the commenter isn't indian/paki/bangladeshi.

>afnan supremacy CE
>versace dylan blue
>similarish price at my local store
Which is better for daily wear? I both like them. I already have BdC but the price makes me not make it a daily driver lol

>>18654663
>BdC
Yikes

>>18654650
>>18654662
This anon>>18654659 is right. Indians wear Hawas Ice. You better be careful.

>>18654677
(you)

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>>18654624
Are you the crossdressing anon from the previous thread?
>>18654680
BdC is lame. If you wear that you are an Indian.

>>18654682
Indians can't afford BdC

>>18654633
yes

>>18654650
>Just smells like I bathed in sugar water.
noselets and casuals like that

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>>18654682
True BdC is ass cum TikTok core. People should wear more fougeres.
SOTD Aigner Statement
>>18654683
Indians wear everything what a drug addicted slav say on youtube to appear more white.

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>>18654199
Try Al-Rehab Dakar and Lord if you like old school frags.

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>>18654695
>drug addicted slav
Is Jeremy really on drugs?

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>>18654698
check literally any of his vids and you will get your answer
>tl;dr: yes

>>18654555
Thanks.

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>>18654682
No but I'm Filipino and I love mom jeans

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>>18654700
But he is a hardcore Christian. Why would he do that?
SOTD: Club de Nuit Intense Men.

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>>18654705
I take that as a yes.

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>>18654706
>But he is a hardcore Christian. Why would he do that?

Today is Chinese New Year in my country. What are some good Mandarin frags?

>>18654712
happy new year, anon
>What are some good Mandarin frags?
Aqua Allegoria Mandarine Basilic

>>18654698
>being an adult who admits they like “peak Jeremy fragrance”
>being a jaded anti-fan of Jeremy fragrance who comments shit like “bro fell off” “bro is on zaza”
>being Jeremy fragrance
I’m really not sure which is more pathetic.

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>>18654650
"Compliment getter" is a marketing term made for low-esteem zoomers who can't form an opinion on their own and rely on what others might like.
it's bullshit obviously, but if they can be made to believe that others will like it, they're going to get it regardless of what they think of it