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>>75345497Misato's fat ass on my face
>>75345497>Glasses, aboslute vodka, camcorder, underwear around ankle, fleeing male.So she was likely making someone go down on her while driving and filming it but who's glasses?
>>75345524Nvm just noticed the guy isn't actually wearing pants.
is permablasting healthy
>>75345605yup, healthiest way to fraudjust not efficient
>>75345643Therapy is a waste of time. You're just paying $100 an hour to talk to someone. You can do that shit for free with friends.
>>75345506Thats a cartoon weeb fag
>>75345654At least my psychiatrist can prescribe me drugs.
>>75345673sounds like you need cooler friends
>>75345605no>worse gains than BnC>worse health than BnCYou'll end up like Jon Skywalker/Zyzz: taking a gram of tren to be 23 BMI and die in your 20s/early 30s
>>75345910>worse gains than BnCwhat
>>75345930Run a high dose blast for 6 months. You either have to keep on upping the dose or the last month or two is no-gains town.Widely observed phenomenon, broscience explanation is that your androgen receptors get desensitized or something.
>>75345530Kensuke Aida, the joke is that misato is a pedophile
>>75345960>Kensuke Aida>marries Asuka>has sex with Misatowhat a chadok let's get back on topic about fitness and stop talking about 30 year old weeb cartoonsWhat's your favorite oral steroid, do you use it as a kickstart, finisher, and/or as a plateau buster, and what dosage and duration do you use it for at a time
32 yr old fat fuck herniated disc heart disease high blood pressure retired athlete baby’s first pin just pinned this morning. Tranny era here I come
>>75346004>high blood pressureDo you know what it's from? You should consider donating blood.
>>75346004>fat fuck herniated disc heart disease high blood pressure>Tranny era here I comeIf you're referring to a swift and pitiful death by your own hand then you are correct.
What do your enhanced leg days look like? How frequently do you train legs, and what does your weekly volume look like? How much volume per workout, and now often?
>>75346019I consider 130/80 high, which I’m 99% sure is just from being a fat fuck. Only doing 100mg cyp e4d and going to supplement with prescribed blood pressure medication…. Also going to up the cardio… we’ll be fine I was just doom posting
>>75346023WE WILL BE FINE I WILL INCREASE CARDIO ITLL BE FINE
>>75346030>which I’m 99% sure is just from being a fat fuck.I haven't measured my blood pressure recently, but when I started my cycle, I was somewhere between 35 to 40% bodyfat, and I had perfect blood pressure. I don't know what it's like now, though, but I've lost some fat while gaining muscle.
>>75346038Doctors can’t tell you anything about why they can’t only tell you that it’s there. All we can do is more cardio brother
>>75345957That's weird, I'm only running my first blast so I will see what happens.Hope I don't lose strength when I go back to cruising
>>75346027Another thing, can your legs take the same volume as other muscle groups? For instance, can the quads and spinal erectors take 20 sets per week if a lot of your upper body muscles can take 20 sets per week?
>>75346075>>75346027unless you're a powerlifter/bodybuilder I wouldn't recommend going for tumor quads and thunder thighs.that said:2x per week1 day with lots of volume1 day with just a little bitbig muscle = takes a long time to recoveravoid heavy deadlifts if you can because they are so fatiguing and will make your upper traps comically big
>>75345668 Better than any real w*man
>>75346064>Hope I don't lose strength when I go back to cruisingI got bad news for you
>>75345957Wouldn't L-Carnitine injections help up regulate the androgen receptors?
>>75346088>1 day with lots of volume>1 day with just a little bitThis doesn't explain much. Would 8 sets of squats be sufficient for a week, assuming I do some isolation work for calves and work out my erectors a bit during my other workouts? What about 14 sets? I would be doing 6 sets once every 3 days for 14 sets per week or 8 sets once every week for 8 sets. (Or maybe once every 6 days to get a bit over 9 sets per week.) I almost always work out at home, so I can't really get to the gym whenever I want to use their stupid leg extension and leg curl machines. I feel like I could incorporate more volume for my legs, but my stupid erectors keep on refusing to recover. I don't even do deadlifts, and they're receiving too much volume.
>>75346075For me personally no. If I do 10 sets in a single workout my legs are totally fucked even on blast. By my 6th or 7th set of quads I am pretty much roasted. I don't know how guys do that much volume for quads unless they're grinding baby weight at the end of leaving more than 1 RIR each set.
>>75346128You can grow with like 12 sets per week maybe less. My legs exploded on my first blast and I never did more than 12. I did a lot more upper body and got good results but for legs as long as you're working them until you can barely walk what more can you do?
>>75346128>Would 8 sets of squats be sufficient for a weeAbsolutely meaningless since I don't know>how strong you are (500 lb squats are super fatiguing, even if you could do 600 lbs for a 1rm)>how close to failure you're training>how long you have been lifting>what PEDs you are on>how many sets/week you are doing for other muscle groupsThis is one of those things where the only real advice that can be given is incredibly generic advice. You have to go do it and assess after a month how you're feeling and what progress you're making and from there tweak it
>>75346132>If I do 10 sets in a single workout my legs are totally fucked even on blast.I'm on blast myself, which is why I'm posting here. Would this be enough volume for an entire week for you? My last workout was 6 days ago, and it's my stupid erectors holding me back from doing another leg day today. I did 8 sets of 10 reps, but most of those sets were 3 to 5 RIR. I may go to the gym tomorrow to do some leg extension and leg curls or just say fuck it and do squats again, since I can't just go to the gym whenever I want.
>>75345957How long do you have to cruise for before you can blast again? Like how long for the androgen receptors to normalize?
>>75346158I had a similar problem but mostly with my knee. Switched to BB BSS as my main lift and my legs started growing. Just experiment with a bunch of different squat variations until you figure out what agrees with your back and quads.
>>75346158>and it's my stupid erectors holding me back from doing another leg day todayThis is why bodybuilders minimize doing heavy compounds and instead stick to machinesIf you just love squatting heavy a good piece of advice for lifting enhanced is to do your isolation work BEFORE your compounds => that way you can get the same stimulus from lower weights and put less stress on small muscles. Lower risk of tendon damage too.>>75346181cookie cutter advice is time on = time offso a 15 week blast => 15 week cruisereddit advice is to cruise until your blood work is 'perfect'
>>75346181>>75346190Time on=time off is a good rule of thumb. I do a 20 week blast and a 4 week cut then cruise the rest of the year. If you are on a consistent schedule you don't need bloods. I get them anyway, but you can go off feels if you are doing it responsibly. But no one does that until you are an old man and your ldl blows up on anything stronger than primo. I would recommend getting bloods before, during, and after any new bad idea blast you want to go on.
I just got my bloodwork back 6 weeks into my first cycle (just under 500mg test-e pw).Some noteworthy results:Total test about 10x my natty levelsMy total cholesterol and LDL somehow lower than pre-cycleHDL low and triglycerides high, both slightly out of range.Can you gentlemen help me interpret these results?What should I do to try and get triglycerides and HDL back in range?
>>75346396>Total test about 10x my natty levelswhat was the actual number?>My total cholesterol and LDL somehow lower than pre-cycle>HDL low and triglycerides high, both slightly out of range.LDL:HDL ratio is more important than the cholesterol number imo>What should I do to try and get triglycerides and HDL back in range?cardio, fiber, and omega 3 supplementation
>>75346402>what was the actual number?I'm at 170 nmol/L or 4903 ng/dL.Preferred fibre source? I bought some psyllium husk.
>>75346422Psyllium husk is the gold standard for Fibre. I toss a couple tablespoons in cup if water every morning. Avocados are good too and the fat can up your hdl and they have a lot of fiber.
Are there any benefits/problems with running both Nolvadex and Clomid for PCT? I'm about to finish my second cycle and did just Nolva for my first. A friend of mine said he runs both because they work differently and the effects can be combined, so I ordered both. But more recently I realized that he's kindof a moron. I've done some looking but haven't really seen anyone mention doing it online.
>>75346974The dominant view on clomid is if you don't need it, don't use it. It can cause irreversible vision problems. Enclo works better without the sides but it's often faked so do DD on any source.
you know that episode of squidbillies, where dan halen is having a scientist genetically modify a chicken, so it has 20 wings, and a hole that squirts ranch dressing? and there's the part where it jumps scenes a few times, and each scene dan halen says "double it"? Well I doubled it. started my first blast with 750 test, and this week i'm bumping it to 1500. sides are under control, and bloods were bloody. deca coming over on the trannies boat. planning on adding 600 or 800 on top of the test. gonna bit lit, senpai
>>75345668Misato's fat ass on my cartoon face then
Adding to >>75346396,If I manage to get/keep my lipids and hematocrit in range by the end of my cycle, is there any reason to not just keep blasting?
>>75347051enclo can still cause vision sides, all serms canthe point of using it over clomid is avoiding mood swings from having both estrogenic and anti estrogenic isomers
>>75347962godspeed>>75348239The conservative answer is it's probably a good idea to give your body a break and let everything renormalize. By the time you get to 20 weeks your body will be significantly different than it is now. You'll probably also hit a plateau. Bumping down to cruise for a bit is not a big deal if you aren't competing.
subQ is shit you larpers I just lost like half my oil I'm going back to im
>>75347962shine on you crazy diamond>>75349200skill issue, you might be too dumb for frauding
>>75348379>>75349299everyone's always... keep your first blast simple! figure out how you react first! you don't need much to gain! but nobody seems to have any good reason not to blast grams of gear, outside of it doing the usual killing you thing. so, fuck it. first blast best blast maxxing
>>75346047I mean, they can also usually give suggestions of what to do about it but those aren't guaranteed to work.
Sup fraud, I am a skeleton 6'4"/193cm @ 70kg. I am joining a local olympic weightlifting club that has 2x a week lessons and I do judo 2-3x times a week. I used chinkzempic to cut down so I'm leanHow much testosterone for a first cycle when I am 50% focused on sports performance? I want to be on for 4-5 months
How far in advance can I prefill syringes? If I prefill from a 10ml vial (so 10 doses, 5 weeks total) will that cause any issues? If its okay to do should I leave some air in there as a buffer to the rubber stopper?
>>75349368Why are Europeans obsessed with meme sports? Just do a very light EQ/test cycle I guess. You won't get the most out of a full blast because you probably won't eat or lift heavy enough to get big.
>>75349431The solvents in the oil can dissolve the stopper and degrade the plastic of the barrel, drawing it into the solution. Personally when I’m blasting and doing ED injections I’ll fill a week’s worth or so at a time.
>>75349318gonna kill a vial of EQ i have laying around on a cut in honor of your stupidity
>>75345654here's another retard thinks he knows all about what therapy is and isnt because he saw an episode of Seinfeld or some shit
When I was smoking heroin I could cut at 1500 cals a day effortlessly.I have semaglutide shipped and might arrived in a week. I wonder if I can cut at 1000 cals a day like a breeze.
You guys ever injure or tweak something on your first blast? Feel like it's gotta be easy with the weight flying up and did it during leg extensions so now I've had a bum knee for about a month which is annoying.
24 days since my last injection of Test-C and I have lost zero strength in the gym since cold turkey... Zero PCT. Why does everyone say you have to BnC?
>>75349906When i have a heart attack, I'll think of you. Also you'll be glad to know that I ordered raws, too. So not only am i overdoing my first ever blast, but I'll be jumping directly into brewing as well
>>75349989I bet you’re unironically vaxxed
I was on 87.5mg/ week plus 700iu HCG as TRT from a doctor. ED SubQ test C injection (micro dosing).Now supplementing with 3x extra shots to take me to 200mg/week. What should I expect to feel? Never have too profound effects from the 87.5mg dose - but definitely noticeable 'levelling out' and fewer v v low feeling days, and I actually progressied in strength in the gym rather than going round in circles.
how many pounds a month should I be aiming to gain on a 500 test blast/bulk. Is 5 too little?
>>75345643You have it backwards. Therapy is not a substitute for constantly saying were gonna make it bros
>>75351778Depends on your current physique and how much fat gain you can put up with. I wouldn’t attempt to make any such predictions.
How do I use tren for social gains? I currently don’t have a social life and minimal social skills.
>>75345497Took a lil var pre-workout as a treat and now the arm pump is so big I can't get my gym bag on fuck
>>75351864Beat and humiliate biggest male in the social cirle.
>>75349368First question, do either of those 2 test? Submission grappling is a loosely tested roidfest in America but not sure how it is in Europe. EQ has one if the longer detect times. Low dose long cycle like 300/200 test/eq will give you the best balance of strength gains without a cardio hit. Test above 300mg a week saps your cardio. Also, while olympic lifting and judo have some overlap, they are two different things. So expect to focus on one and make the other a fun activity. You won't really be able to grow in both.
>>75351310Probably not much. Maybe a little extra energy through the day? Little more motivation? Less brain fog.
>maxxing out the leg extension machine>yeeeah buddeh>somehow pull a muscle in my upper backShould I continue being in a calorie surplus while I recover away from the gym? Currently on week 8 of 500mg test-e.
>>75346248that ass is almost cartoonish, holy shitlooks like that sad pepe with the big butt
What's the best deca and mast dosage with 500 test?
Is running hcg by itself a bad idea ?
>>75354260Basically like injecting estrogen tou retarded natty
>>75351864Go talk to people retard
>>75350386You will though. Some of my lifts remain the same for a while, but others suffer pretty quickly. It takes some time for everything to catch up to you.
>>75354279What about dropping to a cruise? Does this also cause strength loss?
>>75354360Yeah it does just not as much.
Will sleep hours affect my bloods now that im roids? Say i only sleep 5-6 tomorrow and go get bloodwork done in the morning
>>75350293I'm the guy who posted >>75353960.My strategy is the same as when natty, just leave the injured bits alone until they recover.
>>75354260>hcg cycleMPMD, not even once
>>75354260People do this for fertility reasons...Maybe you'll cause your balls to produce a bit more test if you're on a steep cut.In any case this still interferes with your HPG axis, potentially shutting it down just the same as if you injected test.I don't see a reason for anyone to do this.
I'd rather wait a little longer than risk my eyesight with PCT. Is it still beneficial to just run hCG towards the end of a cycle without a PCT to follow it up?
>>75354260Why are you doing this? If it's because you want a test boost without shutting your balls down take enclomiphine
>>75354221deca 100-200mgmast 500mg - 700mgdesu I don't think deca is worth it when test bulks you just as well, unless you specifically want it for the joints
>>75350386you still some test c in your system after 24 days
>>75355970Enclo is still shit, natties are fucking hilarious. They'll do anything but use a needle
>>75356054>desu I don't think deca is worth it when test bulks you just as wellthe guy who talks about how 100mg of deca is more anabolic than 2g of test/eq isn't going to like this trvth nvke
>>75356078>100mg of deca is more anabolic than 2g of test/eqnobody has ever said that. I've run 1g of test and 1g of eq over a winter bulk, the fat to muscle gain ratio just isn't good. I'd rather run 500mg of deca or 500mg of tren imo
>>75356078>>75356096
>>75356112I'm feeling the manlet energy flowing through this post.
Damn bros dropped to a cruise and my blood pressure went from like high 130s-140s to low 120s. Just from test too because I still occasionally take a little 20mg var PWO.
>>75356491HIIT cardio bro
I have:>20lbs weighted vest>Dip station>pull-up bar>two 45 lbs dumbbells>Bench>TreadmillGym near me went bankrupt (Blink Fitness) so these are the only lifting equipment I have. Is it worth doing anything more than Test? I can curl 45 lbs dumbbells for reference.
>>75356748Build a decent deadlift platform from some plywood and a couple horse stall mats. Screw the horse stall mats into the plywood. Install a power rack on top of the deadlift platform. You can use the crease between the two horse stall mats to align the power rack. Buy a decent bench. You likely have a cheap one that can't really handle much weight. I would recommend a flat one first. Buy a barbell and some plates. I would recommend a power bar. Buy some adjustable dumbbells. I would recommend the DB-15s, and buy a bunch of 10-pound plates for them. You should buy all this before starting steroids.
Is a 10 week cycle even worth it(comapred to not doing any at all)? I need to get bloods every 12ish weeks and need to be in somewhat 'normal' range
>>75356761Too expensive, but I can already DL 5 plate. Squat too, can do 350 for reps. It's my chest and shoulders that are lagging behind. I've been on the sauce for quite a while. I just want to know if I should add anything like GH, tren, and/or anavar.
>>75356803yeah you'll see gains, most people do 12-16 week cyclesthe first two weeks you won't see any difference but then it really starts picking upyou should be more concerned with what ester you're going to be usingif you take 500mg test c/week, 2 weeks later you're still going to have approx. 175mg in your system. so you might have to use a shorter ester like phenylprop which'll have you injecting every other day instead of twice a week
>>75356851I don't think I've ever read anyone espousing muscle growth on tren, so no on that one. Hgh is like adding salt to an entree. Just sprinkle it in with everything.
I never got my dick mutilated. Does anybody else get super smelly under their foreskin from steroids? I regularly wash under there, but my cock seems quite a bit smellier now than it used to.
>>75356911>>75356911>trenI've done tren once and my bench went up substantially over the course of 2 weeks. I had to discontinue due to the horrific sides. I still have it so I'm thinking of trying it again for a short cycle. I have both Enanthate and Acetate. Should I pin?I also have some GH and anavar. The GH isn't very high grade though. The HGH I typically pin into my belly fat using a slin needle. I'd mix it with Semaglutide but I had to discontinue that because of very bad IBS side effects that only kicked in 15 weeks into it. Check out this case I just picked up.
>>75357190Nice bro I use a shoe box
>>75345497Not a steroid, but has anyone tried melanotan 2 to get tanner?Worth it?
>>75358171Shoeboxes for oils and ancillaries. Temperature protected box for dry peptides (probably overkill). I bought some vial case on Amazon that I use for reconstituted peptides in the back of my fridge. On the needle side I throw them in old coffee cans and duct tape the lid when it's full. I used to use the sharp boxes my town gives out and just throw them out. But my daughter is a nursing student at voc tech and saw the boxes and started flipping out thinking I was taking cancer meds or something. I told her it was just hgh for my skin. I'm vain enough that answer worked.
>>75358220>Temperature protected box for dry peptidesi just use the freezer portion of my mini fridge desu
>>75345497how do you guys deal with acne from steroid?
>>75358330accutane, aromatase inhibitors, and showering 3 times a day
>>75357190Oh nice. Did the tren tank your appetite though? Harder to grow when you're not eating, right? Hell if you got it, might as well use it! Do you want to live forever?
>>75358220does she have a cock?
>>75356096>I've run 1g of test and 1g of eq over a winter bulk, the fat to muscle gain ratio just isn't good. I'd rather run 500mg of decaSo are you arguing that 500mg of deca is more anabolic than 2g of test and equipoise
>>75358330i'm on like a little under a gram of gear a week (completely meaningless to regulars here i know) and I only have issues with acne when I wear gym shirts more than once accidentally, or don't shower every day. otherwise i never have issues.
>>75359325what drugs and what is your frequency?fluctuations are the #1 cause of acne: as little as 25mg of dbol (6 hour half life) can cause my shoulders to get gross
>>75358330Soap and water and exfoliating scrub. I don't get it that bad. Be as consistent as possible with pin and ai schedule, even time of day. It does make a small, but meaningful difference. Hormone fluctuation is what causes it. You can have elevated e2 and not get acne too bad if it's not bouncing up and down.
>>75359349600 test e 350 npp 115 tren ace weekly, 50mg var pre workout, test injected e3d, npp and ace obviously ed. i'm pretty good about my injections. fuck i guess i'm on a little OVER a gram a week, i didn't even realize
>>75359265it's more effective than 2gs of test and eq. How about you try and compare instead of theorycrafting endlessly like a faggot?
>>75359413>115 of tren aceworthless
>>75359509so you at least admit that 500mg of deca is less anabolic than 1g test + 1g eq
>>75359545based dwarf spouting studies with zero experience
>>75359517tell me you're natty or just retarded without telling me
>>75359597I don't feel like posting my 50mls of test e 350 from years ago. It's a shit tastic dose and you're only placeboing yourself. Why are you running such a low dose? Tren is cheap asf.
>>75345506>tfw you will never be molested by a drunk Misato and forced to eat her sweaty ass and wet pussy lifts for this feel?
I have a weird problem /fraud/. Not a humble brag either, I need help.Tldr I can't bust anymore, dick is too desensitized. What do?I'm on my first ever test blast, 500mg a week pin e3.5d. I'm also horny 24/7. Luckily I'm married and dump two loads a night in the misses. Unfortunately I work from home so I also crank out 2 a day during the day. Now it's gotten to where I need to death grip when I fap or when I fuck I have to power fuck until I'm one heartbeat from zyzzland. It's been my actual cardio for 2 weeks now.
>>75359626nigga, i've changed nothing in my cycle and i feel completely different mentally, and have added tons of weight to the big 4 in the last 5~ weeks. if it's just a placebo, then fuck it, it's a fucking awesome placebo and I'll take the toxicity. I'm already sweating and having a little more trouble sleeping, so I'm being a pussy when it comes to adding more tren, to answer your question though lmao.
>>75359666>I'm also horny 24/7. Luckily I'm married and dump two loads a night in the misses. Unfortunately I work from home so I also crank out 2 a day during the day.checked, and literally same - I had to stop beating my dick because I couldn't cum when having sex with the wife anymore, and it was becoming a problem. You literally just have to limit yourself, i worked from home too and it's hard as fuck no pun intended, so i understand. stopped cooming so much and I went back to normal
>>75359668>so I'm being a pussy when it comes to adding more tren, to answer your question though lmao.fair enough
>>75359666>>75359674How to unlock this power?
>>75359685not from a natty
>Tren-A ($40 for 100mg/ml)"cheap" >Primobolan ($110 for 200mg/ml) "expensive"Just something that grinds my gears when I see people taking short esters and saying primobolan is too expensive
>>75358330I only ever really got a bit on my ass and I just used alcohol on tissue paper a couple times with it and it went away fast. I don't know why everyone here likes to take 50 other drugs to try to juggle sides instead of just finding something they can tolerate.
>>75359710What's the difference in impact between 3 vials of the former and one vial of the latter? I'm a primocel and even I know the answer to this and where the argument is coming from. The primo user is seen as bourgeois because he just wants to be a little bigger than natty. The 19-Norior reaches for the stars and is willing to sacrifice organs for muscle. >>75359694Kek
>>75359710The difference is that running primo enth has you injecting a ml of oil 2-3x a week, lets say the vials are 12ml because that's what my source does for whatever reason - that gives you 6 weeks of primo if you inject e3d like i do, and you want 400mg of primo, because that's the amount of eq i ran for 20 weeks, you buy one vial of primo enth for $110, and you get 6 weeks of injections out of it. you don't even hit the peak of it in your blood until week 4-6. >buh wha about tren ace??If my vial is 12ml and 100mg/ml like we assume it is, and I want 350mg per week, i need to inject half a ml a day, which yeah that's a load of oil, but that's the price you pay for short esters. the point is that that gives me 24 weeks of injections, on a single bottle of tren. for $40. that would be $440~ in primo for the same amount of time, 4 vials, because obviously you can't buy less than a whole vial. Please, please kill yourself trtnigger faggot var primocel cuck. I will be thinking of more buzzwords to call you while you draft your reply.
>>75359750Check some place like /r/bodybuildingThe majority of [amateur] competitors are now on test + dry injectable + oral. Also you’ve got test/primo/deca cycles that people have run for decades and still do today
>>75359710>80$ for 500mg of tren ace a week for a month>$110 for 500mg of Primo a week for a monthOne gives you amazing strength, carb partitioning that makes you look full all the time and veiny. Along with extremely good muscle to fat ratio on a bulk; IT WORKS.Meanwhile primo the only reason you remember that you're even running Primo is because you don't have to take your already extremely cheap AI. You're "drier" because your e2 is lower. I ran my very first cycle with 500 test and 500 primo, I only did primo once after that because I had a spare bottle for free. The only people I ever hear asking about Primo are trters or people dipping their toes in for the first time.>>75359750>The primo user is seen as bourgeois because he just wants to be a little bigger than natty. The 19-Norior reaches for the stars and is willing to sacrifice organs for muscle.I have a clean diet, I don't drink, don't smoke, no edibles, only drugs I take is gear. I like tren, I can sleep easily on it and I get a great look off of it. YMMV.
Someone was bigger than me at the gym today. Time to up the dose.
>>75359822>i need to inject half a ml a day, which yeah that's a load of oil, but that's the price you pay for short esters.Everything about shorter esters is better imo if you get over the ED injections and oil amounts.>>75359831>Check some place like /r/bodybuildingno>The majority of [amateur] competitors are now on blah blah blahActual amateur competitors are running big stacks constantly with insulin and boat load of growth hormone. Not posting on reddit.
>>75359822>on a single bottle of treni had a diverging thought while i wrote this seemingly crack fueled section of my comment, it would be 10 bottles of tren, which is $400. >>75359822also, i just want to mention for any retarded natties in the thread reading this: people tend to run primo 1:1 with test. so if you're running more than a reddit amount of test with your primo, it's even more expensive. 400mg is just an example to keep the numbers simple.>well how much would I need for a basic cycle, like 500mg? you would need 7 bottles of primo to make up for the extra .5ml, which is $770 for a 16 week cycle, the same 350mg tren cycle is $400.
>>75359919A cycle of test and primo is $370 if you buy the kits from the tranny. Don't know what tren ace would be but they are always sold out so I assume it's very cheap and everyone buys kits. Probably 2-3 tren kits = one primo kit price wise. Comparing primo and tren ace is retarded. 2 different uses. 2 different users. Primo might go up to tren but tren isn't going to come down to primo. You will also get much more bang for your buck with tren. Not even close. That was my original point.You're doing a lot of mental gymnastics
>>75360048guys i tried to save money by using the same needle over several week and my sister told me that i was gonna get aids, is she right?to my knowledge no one but me have been using the needle and yes i do clean it with water before using it every time
>>75360074You can't give aids to yourself. You're retarded, but I'm not surprised you're retarded, I sold to aromasin to a dude and he tried to inject it.
>>75360048>You're doing a lot of mental gymnasticsI'm not doing any mental gymnastics retard, you say "how can people say primo is expensive when they take short esters" when it's not even close in price.
>>75360094>>75360048oh you're the guy who posts the big booty black chicks, so i take back my rude comments and insults, but my point stands regardless. please keep posting big booty bitches for me to look at while i'm lifting and scrolling through this thread.
>>75359750jesus christ. i'm not usually into fat girls, but, dayumn
>>75360107I'll take my victories where I can get them
>>75360084so i can keep using my special needle? i rly dont want to buy a lot of them in case mom find them, im brining the steroid to school with me so she wont find it but im afraid about bringing needles to school. i got a bunch from the nurse but its my last and i still got 2 vial left and i dont wanna go see the nurse again beause he might call my mom
>>75360347begone underage. >>75360155>>75360048primocels can undo their retardation by posting more big asses
>>75359694if i was having regular sex i would actually jump on but theres no point right now
>>75356921I still want this answered. Have steroids made your dick smellier?
ok fraud, how much of a deficit is too much?also and related, how long of a cut is too long?on AAS ofc, don't be silly
>>75361056I’m uncircumcised and yes
>>75361143Along with the smelly dick, one of the symptoms I got that I didn't expect was the biggest flareup of seborrheic dermatitis I've ever had in my life. Fortunately, seborrheic dermatitis cream solves this issue immediately. You'll notice a drastic improvement the next day. It's just that it burns during your first application of it, but I've been applying it every night to my face and eyebrows and not been having to worry about it. It's completely gone now, but I'm still going to be applying the cream daily. I also wash my hair with an anti-dandruff shampoo and conditioner every day. I get seborrheic dermatitis from steroids while others get acne.
>>75361056no but my pits stink more and faster on 700mg of gear plus salbutamol and caffeine also get some minor eczema on face easier at any dose over cruise
>>75361056Nope, still the same. I had really low natural test, and supplementing did however improve my erection quality substantially. I had measured before starting exogenous test, and i was down about a half inch in length and girth, and my flaccid size was abysmal. Ten weeks after, I've regained those lost half inches while erect, and my flaccid size is larger than i remember it being -- even when i was younger. Before pinning test, amd after i noticed my erections were smaller, i got prescribed tadalafil 10mg/day, but i hadn't noticed any size increases from it. I'm still taking it now as well, but, compared to when i didn't take it for a week due to a cold, it only seems to make my erections firmer, and no effect on erect/flaccid size.
>>75349299How am I supposed to do it then big guyI pinch some stomach fat and put the needle in at 45 degrees then inject. That's not fucking it up, it's just a shitty boomer trt method
>>75359666Since I wrote this I fucked the wife twice and jerked off. Desensitization abstinence is not working
Did the chinese tranny get kicked off sst or am I just retarded?
>>75357190QSC vials, nice
Is this just a general thread for /fit/ or is it something else? I wanna ask a few questions but don't come round here often
>>75362110This is the steroid discussion thread
>>75361670retarded boomers manage their subQ injections just fineyou can't seem toyeah stop now this life isn't for you
What is the most gentle, endocrine-friendly, faggot even, regimen to pin Testosterone and still get better results than plain TRT?6 week cycle pinning 500 mg a week (plus aromatase inhibitor plus post-cycle therapy)?Or something else?
>>75362628Test, and whatsits... primo? It helps control your e2, so you might not even need an ai
>>75362628At least 12 weeks for any real result. It takes about 6 weeks for the test to fully kick in and then you’ll be shut down for a couple months while you pct so you’ll need more time to get enough gains to actually hold onto anything after pct.
>>75362659>primo?>>75362669Allright, thanks.
my potential second wife says Islam allows polygamy but she doesn't want that for herselfI clearly am not on enough gear or she would be down, it's the only explanation give me a cycle to be jacked and huge enough for a second polygamous wife
>>75361765Tranny was never in sst. Only ever see him on meso and discord
>>75357190>>75361906>>75358774>>75358171This is my in-active box. I am not using any of what's in here. My actual use box is here. I still need to organize it. Actually, I only use Test in this picture, the HCG every once in a while, the sema I had *just* got off of, and the anavar I'm iffy about. The Quantropin is many years old, is it even worth using it? >>75358171>I use a shoe boxMy gf found my gear so I have this shit hidden in a locked filing cabinet lol. >>75358774>>75358774>Did the tren tank your appetite though?Nope. I just felt pumps that made moving incredibly difficult. Even after taking a ton of Taurine. I wouldn't be able to walk to the gym without being in pain. I also already have insomnia and mental health issues so they were all exacerbated. The strength gain I got from maybe 2 weeks of tren was more than I've gotten from 2 years of training (I'm exaggerating a bit). If I can find a gym with bar bells maybe I'll try it again. Or when summer starts. >>75358220>dry peptides (probably overkill).Do you mean before reconstituted?
>>75362778How the hell would getting more jacked encourage her to want polygamy? And yes it is permissible to have up to 4 wives in Islam, but it’s explicitly stated in the Quran that all current wives must permit the marrying of another wife and that all wives are to be equally loved and taken care of in all aspects (especially financially) aka you better be rich as hell to pay for multiple women. The main reason why polygamy is actually allowed in Islam is to account for unforeseen situations such as more women than men in a given population, widows, and discovering that your first wife is infertile it is seen as acceptable to marry another to have children with, but to keep your first wife as well rather than divorce.
>>75363028Didn't think I'd be learning such a thing in /fraud/
>>75363028yeah I know all that, I was being sarcastically vainmy wife can't have more kids and we don't want to adopt or use a surrogate or any of the other optionsgear makes me want to get someone pregnant, dangerous shitmet a Muslim girl, very traditional, hijab, marriage first, all that and we hit it off at least temporarily bro you were supposed to give me a random balls to the wall blast not make me blog about it
>>75362964Fuck, I am retarded.
Like where the fuck do you niggers find UGLs? I don't get it do you literally just google this shit ?
>>75363070Kek I feel you. My fiancé is Muslim and I converted not too long ago. I talked to her about the idea of multiple wives a while ago and she wasn’t on board with it, but from what I’ve heard it’s a pain in the ass to have multiple wives since you basically have to handle drama between them 24/7. Plus my fiancée is amazing so I can’t complain. She’s literally a tomboy Muslim and is extremely submissive to the point that she will ask me for permission any time she needs to even talk to another man and if I say no she respects my wishes without any attitude or back talk at all. I didn’t know it was possible for a woman to be a tomboy yet also be completely comfortable with her role as a woman and let me handle all the man stuff. It’s like a contradiction yet she does it. Sometimes you just gotta stop being greedy and thank Allah for what you already have. I’m always grateful for everything I have or have had in my life.
>>75358219Yes, it works very fast too.
Is Dr. Mike right here vs Reddit? Orals only for a few weeks?https://youtu.be/1qyJd-Zc7Kw?
Ive been lifting for only one year (and I lifted for two years a few years ago) will I rupture my tendons from growing muscle too fast if I start steroids now?
>>75345957Androgen receptors actually upregulate but the relative mg/kg goes dose of test goes down as things like volume and bodyweight increases, AR upregulation is not enough to offset this. A 60kg man doing 500mg test =/= 100kg doing 500mg of test. For some people 500mg of test becomes a cruise dose even.>>75363447Yes you can do oral cycles and no you won't be muh shutdown after 8-12 weeks of anavar it just probably isn't more effective than doing a nice test cycle with some anavar on top, being shutdown is not that serious since you will recover within 3 months anyways in vast majority of cases so why not add test and not risk low E2 and feeling like shit? Anyone with basic reading of oral only cycle studies like the ones on HIV patients knows this is basic fucking fact. these retards also then think Oxandrolone is metabolised by the fucking kidneys because fucking wikipedia is full of fucking boomer reddit retards, IT IS 17AA. IT IT IS EXCRETED UNCHANGED THROUGH THE KIDNEYS YOU DUMB FUCCKSS KYS.FUCK. I HATE. REDDIT. FUCKING FAGGOTS.
>>75363867>For some people 500mg of test becomes a cruise dose even.I've heard it doesn't really go above 300, unless you're a really tall dude with a ton of muscle. The whole point of a cruise is to give your organs a break.
Redpill me on growth hormone. Does it give you goblin face through messing with your skull and giving you too much collagen in certain parts of your face? Do you lose the gains you made from it once you stop taking it, since your body can't naturally maintain the hyperplasia needed to maintain the muscle tissue? Do you have to take the same dose all year around?
>>75364269>Redpill meGo back to /pol/ and do your joe Rogan trt
>>75364269Fern is always cute.
>>75346004I’m back today I just pinned my second dose of 100mg test c. Monday starting my routine in the warehouse gym (no ac for max gains). Bp was actually 118/68 58 hr last night and I haven’t worked out in 2 months. Have bp medicine on hand just in case, but 100mg e4d seems like a good dose for a 32 year old fat fuck. I’ll pin some hcg every month or so to keep my balls from atrophy
>>75365121Pin hcg when you pin test. It takes a.lot of hcg (1000iu/week) to keep your balls. Take an ai. An obese person will get high e2 on trt dose. And lower your dose before you take BP meds. If you are really fat, lower your trt to 100mg/week and take sema or tirze. Everyone wants to cut corners, but doing it right works better and faster. You're losing gear to aromitization right now.
>>75365161I’ll get some tirze. Not taking any aromasin yet cuz I don’t wanna merk my estrogen. If my nipples won’t get soft I might take like 1/4 a pill
>>75365185Take adex instead. That way if and when you fuck yourself up you'll bounce back in a day instead of a week. Buy a few kits of tirze. You will need 10mg a week once you ramp up. Or if you really want to be space monkey, get some reta and report back how it worked.
>injured my back, time for a deload week anyway>still eating 4,000 kcal/day, currently eating a family meal of Italian takeout by myself>forearms developing new stretch marks despite me not even training them>I still tell people to stay natty
>>75365226I’ve been microdosing tirz (1.25 mg/e5d) for the past month just to take the edge off of cutting and I’ve lost ~10lbs without even trying. Is this because I’m not a fat fuck? I was at 14% (dexa scan) when I started. Cutting has always been miserable for me and this is like nothing.
>>75359750How big do I have to get for a gf like this?
>>75365400Big but you also need to be tall
>>75365400Bench 500, squat 600, and deadlift 700.
https://youtu.be/a2gTvWsURZg?feature=sharedJanoshik interview
>>75366045anyone who buys pharma primo just got BTFO by this video lmfao
>>75365339Yeah I use it to take the edge off on cut. Starting dose is 2.5mg and then you work your way up to 10mg in a month. I lasted over a month at 2.5mg a week before I bumped up to 5mg. I stayed at that for over 2 months and it worked strong the entire time. I had to struggle to eat sometimes and other times it would completely stop me from being able to eat. I remember being in California a week after my last dose. Went to in and out burger for the first time ever. Took one bite of a double and that was it. Burger was delicious but couldn't eat another bite.
Has anyone ever done 531 boring but big while on cycle? I never built any sort of strength base or followed any program so I am incredibly weak and unbalanced. Just coming back from a massive injury so I wanna start from scratch. No more random bullshit.
>>75366362>strength baselmao
>>75363178Yes
>>75363486Tendons toughen slower than muscle grows. You damage shit because roids grow your muscles faster than anything else, and you go too heavy before your body is ready
>>75366362I’ve never done boring but big on cycle but I have used 531 as the template for my workouts. It works really well because you get the ramp up sets and one actually heavy set and then you can just do a normal bodybuilding routine after. So like on bench day I’ll do my 531 sets and then do like 3-5 sets each of 4-5 chest exercises and 2-4 tricep exercises, hit abs and call it a day. It’s nice if you only want to lift 4 days a week but if you want to hit each muscle group more than once a week you have to get a little creative. Oh, and I’d recommend switching to barbell rows for the DL day and focusing on back and bis and hitting hamstrings on the squat day with legs.
You guys ever break out when dropping to a cruise? My shit has been good for awhile now bc of accutane (I'm 29 and had acne my whole life) and now it's coming back in the same spots.
On week 5 of 500 mg test C / 400 mg mast EHave not needed an AI, no high E symptoms at all, no bloatingI did however get some acne, not too many pimples but a couple of big ones, including a huge one on my ass (in the middle of the two lower glute quadrants, not from an injection)Is accutane worth taking? I've been using adapalene/clindamycin cream on my face and back and it's worked perfectly, but this huge thing on my ass is not letting me sit properly and I'd prefer to prevent other pimples from showing up again there
>>75349989I've heard the same "you don't even know what therapy really is like!" probably 20 times, and every time it has been exactly what I expected it to be.Let me guess, it's not about being handed answers, but rather talking to someone who's a skilled listener so he can guide you to work out your own problems? Were you going to say something like that? Amazing stuff, I'll truly get right on it. Therapy is hecking valid and important (even if statistically it isn't any more effective than placebo).
>>75366936I actually agree with you about therapy being bullshit (went from age 10 to 23 with basically no positive result) but how tf do you have placebo therapy?
>>75366045Really interesting, I only clicked to see what he looks like and ended up listening to the whole thing. Too bad the guy interviewing him is retarded.
>>75345497I want to light fraud, but be able to get off the drugs or pass a very strict drug test. Any suggestions?
>>75366978Yep I wish we could just listen to him ramble He does have an official channel but no regular content as expected https://youtu.be/7ZbZGfPX7U0?feature=shared
>>75367061Why would you get tested? Do you compete in any tested sports federations?
Bros EQ has a massive half life and lingers. So would running it extend how long to wait before PCT?
>>75367226Yes, EQ sample cycle is 16 weeks EQ24 weeks of testPCT week 26Do primo instead
>>75367226EQ is for blast and cruise chads onlybest AAS
>>75367234Awh man. Thanks bro. I might do the primo. Mast somehow rapes my lipids hard even though I feel like I'm the happiest person ever on it. Got like 5 vials of eq going back into the vault..
>>75367257Oh hell yeah. Last time I had it I was marathon king and climbing the park gates. I can't cruise though cause work travel when it resumes. I'm gonna miss EQ for another year it seems
>>75345643>>75345654>>75349989>>75366936>tfw girl hmu because I was a doctor>finds out I'm a Psychiatrist
>>75366825Not wholly unexpected. Acne is more.caused by hormonal changes then by high e2 alone. Switching from blast to cruise could definitely cause that. When you stabilize your levels the acne should lessen. Don't touch the zits either for goodness sake. Soap and water, and an occasional alcohol swap will remove most of your acne. Poking and popping zits makes them last longer.
>>75366909If so just do a low dose like 10-20mg ED. It's extremely effective.
>>75345497Anons every time I get on cycle I start to think my girlfriend cheated in the past. Any idea why that is? Not from a psychoanalytic point of view, from the steroids affecting my body chemistry point of view.
Trust your GP, guys.>GP only tests for free testosterone>gets value expressed in shitty FAI, female levels regardless>consults urologist, urologist says they're not that bad and refuses to treat itReally weird, right? Two months later I found the reason why. My FAI value was the same as the threshold value of testosterone in nmol/l. Once I made this connection I checked the urologist's mail again and realized the man said "a testosterone value of X is a little low, but not that bad". My GP seemingly didn't know the difference between total testosterone and free testosterone and incorrectly communicated this. Even after telling her many times that it was impossible for women-tier levels to be healthy, this woman blindly kept believing the urologist's word without ever questioning the weirdness of the situation.How do these people get through years of university and whatnot while being this incapable of reason?
>>75367367Are you dating browns? I can't imagine a white woman being disappointed that you can prescribe mind melting drugs.
>>75368858>Trust your GP, guys.Residents are the most retarded and frustrating to deal with. I have shitty free NEETbucks healthcare, and I depend on literal residents to visit me every time I have a problem. I've actually had this shitty healthcare before I got NEETbucks, but I had to actually pay for it back then. Don't let them tell you that residents are the same as doctors. They're technically doctors, but they don't have any experience, and they're all immature and retarded. They are WAY more likely to incorrectly diagnose you, and they will either prescribe insane medications for you at insane dosages or not prescribe a medication for you, despite the fact you have a very serious issue. I asked for a sleep medication that could also help with my OCD from one of them when I was 18, and he gave me a powerful antipsychotic (It was not quetiapine, something way more insane.), and this medication gave me an intense urge to kill myself both times I took it. That medication did not help me at all. The other time, I had this intense pain in my lower back (I realized this was likely a partially pulled muscle or tendon.) that made even trying to stand up hell on Earth, and the resident refused to prescribe me an opioid. I couldn't even get motherfucking hydrocodone. I was also very erroneously diagnosed as manic before, without being told so, and told I was at risk for having seizures, and that I need to go to the emergency room. My guess is that I was talking a bit energetically while being anxious about what was wrong with me. Upon finally seeing an actual doctor at the emergency room, she quickly told me I was actually there to be hauled off to the insane asylum, but she was smart enough to realize I was actually entirely sane and told me to get out of there. She told me that she rediagnosed me as non-manic. Residents are fucking retards.
I got my blood test results.I'm not gonna be able to get health insurance to pay for my steroids, am I?
>>75369413Lol no. You have a good, natural level. Because of shady TRT clinics and their shitty blogs, everyone thinks their total t level should be 1000. If you want to do it yourself, it won't cost much more than any copay/deductible. By DIY I mean ugl. A clinic is going to rape you.
>>75368858Doctors are only interested in minimizing liability and collecting checks, and it they can keep you feeling miserable, that's just a bonus to them.
Do you /fraud/sters ever gaslight people in the gym who asks you how you got so big?>haha well anon you just have to workout hard and eat a lot of protein>oh really beefy-mc-beefington, is that all?>yes just keep working out
>>75368725hormones effect mental state, both test and e2some would even say specific compounds give them specific mental sides personally I just want a harem full of pregnant and soon to be pregnant women whenever I'm on a good blast
>>75369413congrats you have normal test levels
>>75370016always, nattycucks are retarded anywaythey wouldn't believe or hear anything beyond "he's a cheater" anywayfuck em, 100% natty, hard work and dat dere whey and creatine
>>75370016I mean, being like "oh that guys just roiding anyways" and they're not very obviously roiding just makes you come off as jealous and immature anyways. if you don't admit it they'll never know.
>>75369413UGL is insanely cheap stop being a faggot holy shit
>>75370016I tell them meme shit. I replaced my cooking oil with beef tallow. I drink 4 glasses of beef marrow broth a day. Warrior diet bro. Who in the gym seriously doesn't know you're on gear? Lifelong natties know what natty peak looks like because they hit it. Roiders know what it looks like too. Any gymrat, either way, can tell right away. On two occasions I've walked to someone I didn't personally know and asked them about their gear usage. Both times the guys answered honestly about what they were on. I also had an obvious roider spontaneously ask me about my cycle in a hotel gym at a conference. You might fool the natty who doesn't work out at all, but anyone who works out knows right away.
>>75368858>How do these people get through years of university and whatnot while being this incapable of reason?Because their degrees are not logic based, it's memorization based. Doctors are literal retards with money.
>>75367061> but be able to get off the drugs or pass a very strict drug test. Any suggestions?just do testosterone retardi did 400mg/16weeks for my first cycle, balls totally numb by the end of it, took some tamoxifen after a couple weeks and i honestly feel better than before i startedif you're doing serious competition or whatever you'll need a good doctor because the epitestosterone:testosterone ratio will be fucked but i don't think most places do that
which steroids will unfuck my sciatica pain from powershitting
>>75371586Nigga, stretch. Jesus
Is it source talk to talk about how/where to get cheap testing?
>>75370663How the fuck do you all find UGLs though. Trt clinics are everywhere, not all of us are 4chan deep web enthusiasts who buy milk with shitcoins.
>>75371883https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/75345497/#75371892
>>75371894Good prices on test. Horrendous prices on peptides>>75371883Google sst or meso and some keywords. If you can't figure out how to set up a btc wallet and connect it to cash app or an exchange, you are.too dumb to roid. Clinics are a giant rip off. Even the online clinics are absurd. I was a trt nigger that went ugl primocel. Once in a great while I'll buy a bottle of pharma test if I'm traveling for longer than a week. Probably overkill. I've never had TSA inspect a vial
>>75371944>Horrendous prices on peptidesHow much does growth hormone typically cost compared to what they're charging?
>>75371880as in bloodwork? why would it be? its just general health stuff
>>75371960Ok, not as bad as their other peptides. You can easily do better though. Shop around. Make sure your source has testing. Ask for a recent jano. There are some well known ones with fairly recent tests.
>>75372016How do you prepare the growth hormone? What do I need to get and do? How is everything usually shipped?
>>75371880Testing is pretty standard. You either get your doctor to authorize it, which I'm not sure how for some of those tests, or you purchase one. They are all similarly priced. I like private MD. I get full panel test, lipid, blood count, plus ferritin plus igf. If you get your doc to order test and e2 test plus lipids plus markers let us know what you said. What we need to do is find cool GPs. Mine is a dork and he's chubby. My last GP was an Israeli who was in their military. Older guy in his 60s and real fit. He also got work done, simple stuff like juviderm in his face. Looking back I'll bet he juiced too, at least trt. I regret not trying to see if he was on the level. He moved his practice out of state.
>>75372019I'm in a charitable mood so I'll answer, but these are askhole questions. You should be able to find this out within 5 minutes of searching.You need the following:>31g insulin needles>bac water (Hospira or Pfizer not Amazon shit)>alcohol swabs>empty container for needles>optional but recommended: container for vials in fridgeInstructions>mix vial so that desired dose is .1cc or 10 units>for example if you have a 20iu vial and you want to dose 4iu, put .5ml of bac water in. Then each .1ml or 10 unit pull is 4iu. >use peptide Calc play around with values to understand how dosing works>store dry peptides in stable temp area. Basement is great. Other people do freezers>Reconstituted vials go in the fridge >they last a few weeks to a month once mixed.
>>75372082Follow up>swab needle, vial, and injection site>draw .1ml>pin into fat just below the skin>belly is easiest, butt and thighs work too>rotate sites
>>75372087Swab the needle? Wut?
>>75371883no source talk
>>75372082Women are horrible actors
>>75372127Yeah I've never done that either
>>75372820Yeah you're not supposed to do that. I mean... aint gonna kill you, but the needles are one time use and already sterile as long as the packaging isn't damaged. Guess it'll just cause a burning sensation? Y tho
>>75372947Unless he's reusing needles like some broke ass nigga I don't think he meant to type that
I know this isn't relevant and nobody cares, but I just want to say that I'm perma blasting 2g+ a week in the hopes I can be a bodybuilder or at the worst some mid-level influencer that shills some shitty supplements or workout programs. Life feels so empty sometimes I hope I die in my sleep and I think about suicide almost daily. If I could achieve some relevance, at least I wouldn't have to hold a full-time job. Maybe I could even pull a gym baddie and pretend to love her and be happy.
A few days in after taking a first shot of 2mg retatrutide. Appetite supression has been really nice honestly. I can eat decent sized meals but the main difference is feeling fuller afterward and for much longer. Problem is my heartrate seems elevated at least 10bpm. Feel a little more fight or flight and stopped drinking caffeine. This is sketching me out a little bit. So pleased with the other effects but not trying to ruin my heart. Any ideas? Considering a beta blocker like propranolol or nebivolol. Could also try tirzepatide instead, if there’s a difference there.
>>75372963Lol there was some kid here earlier saying he reuses needes because he doesn't want to get more in case his patents find out. Seriously...
>>75373167Godspeed, anon.
>>75373167Press x to doubt. If you really want to be an influencer, do the pedophile bait thing. Then you can be the roid rage pedophile hunter and slap thr shit out of the mental retards and Indians that would actually show up to a walmart to meet a minor.
>>75372127>>75372963>>75372947Swab the needle. It isn't hard. You already have the swab out for the vial top and injection site. The alcohol evaporates in 15 seconds. Or don't. I don't care either way
>>75374119Your needle is already sterile. You do not gain anything from wiping it with a swab that you also use on other dirtier surfaces.
>>75374119honestly i'm probably retarded but i never swab my vials or injection sites either. never had any issues, but i already understand that doesn't mean I won't.
>>75374119As someone who both gives and trains patients to do their own IM injections I think I am qualified to tell you that not only does swabbing the needle not do anything and actually makes it less sterile but the only patient I’ve had who thought you should swab the needle was an actually borderline retarded nigger.
>>75374333>As someone who.....Lol fuck off nigga you sound like a female bragging about her sociology degree
>>75374357nice rebuttal nigger fuck off back to whatever cave you crawled out of
>>75374357I’m a fucking nurse, nothing to brag about. You can be a total idiot like me and get through nursing school just fine. I’m just saying that this is one of the fee things I can speak on with authority.
>>75374370>murseLol you are probably obese and covered in tats
>>75374377just give it up dawg
>>75374370>>steroid user>>nurseOh shit, ryan root? Haha!
funny story, I don't aspirate injections or swabWHO and multiple studies say swabbing doesn't reduce infections and aspiration (pulling back plunger to check for blood) is deemed unnecessary by nursing assoc.I occasionally swab UGL vials initially but that's it, never know if the chink tranny teabags them or nothaha
>>75374422Infections are from unfiltered gear. Bad gear.
>>75374377I’m neither but I do want to say that I hate nurses and this was a terrible career choice. At least I only work three days a week I guess.
>>75373167>I'm perma blasting 2g+ a week in the hopes I can be a bodybuilder or at the worst some mid-level influencerdumb bitches think that more gear = more bettergains:dosage is logarithmic while sides:dosage is exponential
>>75374525No they blast gear while not eating more. More gear is better, but useless without more calories.
>>75374370>I’m a fucking nursepost tits or gtfo
>>75374529There is a limit. >>75374525 was right. The gains level off. Just think about test. If you take 125mg you will probably get 1000 ng/dl or 8x. If you take 500mg you will get 2500 or 5x. It levels off. The sides do the opposite. Yes you do need to eat just like with any hard workout. What 2g perma natty >>75373167 doesn't realize is that Ronnie Coleman would still be bigger than 99% of bodybuilders even if he only took trt. He's a genetic freak who puts on muscle like crazy and hyper responds to gear like crazy. There's plenty of roiders in my gym that are only half a step above natty peak because that"s their enhanced limit. They are still bigger and stronger than any natty though.
>>75374953spouting memes now anon. Is ronnie amazing? Yes, but he's bodybuilding from 16, Jay Culter was squatting 600 at 18 and both have been blasting crazy amounts of gear since THE start of their lifting careers. They have used roids longer than some us have been alive, if you hire actual bodybuilding coaches the doses they run are at 5g+ range with insulin and 12iu + of growth. If you think they weren't doing the same lmao, you drank the koolaid.
>>75346158FML my erectors are being cunts too. I started supplementing taurine hoping it dulls it. I did some rows today and felt the pump but it was manageable. We'll see if tomorrow I get ass raped.
>>75374997Not saying they aren't pushing grams, just that they would still be in the top 1% on much smaller doses. The bottom guy takes just as much gear, maybe even more to try and catch up. Ronnie's other superpower is he can utilize 5g gear. Most of us would just flush the excess.
>>75375074The other anon doesnt have the work ethic of bodybuilders. There are plenty of huge guys running grams, the biggest difference is those guys are willing to bulk hard and push the calories
>>75359666Check prolactin , pin ED, and consider getting some hcg
>>75375131Pinning every day is key it resolves so many issues
>>75374422There was one time i wish i had aspirated... ended up injecting 3ml into a vein, and spent the next half hour having the most wonderful coughing fit
>>75374333>actually makes it less sterileOpen up alcohol swab packet. Swab needle. Needle is now less sterile. Lol>>75374422>>75375183Aspirating is gay. Wtf are you guys shooting with? I can hit muscle with a 1/2" 27g anywhere on my body. I've never hit a major blood vessel or nerve.
I'm halfway through my first cycle, 500mg test-e injected on a MWF schedule with slin pins.It feels like getting the needle in gets more painful over time.Sometimes I can feel pain when I'm pushing the oil in, so I pull the needle out and pick a different location on the same muscle and try again.Today it took 3 attempts to find a painless spot on my delt.Any advice?
>>75375276you're dulling the needle reinserting, and it's probably also scar tissue. what sites are you rotating
>>75375409I'm doing delts and quads, so each location gets poked once every 9 days.Shallow IM shots with 8mm (5/16") 30G.Idk if the problem is with reinserting as today the pain was with a fresh needle, and reinserting it half an inch away was painless.
>>75375430those are some itty bitty needles. When i used 29G 1/2" needles it took a really long time to push the oil through and I would constantly accidentally move the needle around, or bend it, do /something/ to fuck it up, when I switched to 27G 5/8 needles, i got a lot less pain. Could be something completely different, just offering my experience.
>>75374953>If you take 125mg you will probably get 1000 ng/dl or 8x. If you take 500mg you will get 2500 or 5x. It levels off.500mg test-e puts me at almost 5,000 ng/dL.There seems to be a lot of individual variation here.
>>75375506On top of that, test levels after about 3x dont really matter, test is just the basic bitch base. Everything else is the meat and potatoes
Why doesn't everyone cruise on test u? Is there an advantage to keeping an e3.5d schedule instead of every other week? I know serum levels will be more constant but is it worth it?
>>75375608STOP being a RETARDED subhuman. Do you fucking breathe oxygen every 3.5days? And what? Every other week? Are you ok dude?Sickens me that 95% of you mongoloids are still doing this braindead wrong,Do you know why M.Ds prescribe patients every other week injections? Because they think you're too retarded and scared to do this shit properly. MEDICAL ADVICE IS BASED ON PATIENT COMPLIANCE, NOT WHAT IS OPTIMAL. -Dr. Tod Lee, PHD, IFBB ProGet this through your skull. You should not be pinning ANY LESS frequent than EOD. I don't give a fuck what your faggy cycle is. ED, or EOD, no questions asked. Man the fuck up, stop hiding your shit from your wife or mommy because you're not a man, and do this shit PROPERLY. You fucking nigger retards on here complaining about side effects, high estrogen, you're popping AI's like fucking retards when estrogen is WHAT GIVES YOU YOUR IGF1. YOU DON'T NEED 1000MG TEST. TEST IS LITERALLY FOR ESTROGEN NOTHING ELSE, FILL IN THE REST WITH A PROPER ANABOLIC.Fucking listen to the people who KNOW what they are talking about and STOP parroting reddit FAGGOTRY, complaining about your sides, and steering others the wrong way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwepZW4O6uAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRl6b_pIJlo&t=34sYou're welcome FAGGOTs FUCK YOU.
>>75375898ED pins didn't seem to help your e2.
>>75375898>Do you fucking breathe oxygen every 3.5days? ...do you breathe oxygen eod???He's talking about test-u, the test with the longest half-life.When you pin test-u every two weeks, the difference between your peak and trough levels are a few dozen ng/dL, literally giving you more stable blood levels than a natty.Why the fuck would you pin test-u eod?
>>75376003Very funny, but my E2's in a great range atm, zero nipple effects for months.I am however a month into tren E.
>>75376010>Why the fuck would you pin longer esters frequently? Didn't do any research, didn't listen to the videos I posted.Stop posting and do your fucking homework first.
>>75345654>with friends.
>>75375608As you can see by >>75375898>>75376023it's mostly because of rampant retardation
somebody drop your cut stack, i am currently on 500mg test E, no side effects. Should i take clenbuterol, anavar, winstrol(i think i would leave this for spring before starting the summer cut cycle because it is toxic af)?
>>75376178Clen is the only thing that could help from that list but unless you're trying to get to -1% bf for a competition then I don't see a reason for why you should touch it.Just drop to a TRT dose while in a caloric deficit.Maybe add sema/tirz if your appetite is out of control.
>>75376209why should i drop to TRT dose if i am cutting, wouldnt a mid to high dose let me keep more muslce and lose more fat?Ngl i was on 250mg per week for around 10 weeks, but i feel hella lot better on 500mg per week
>>75349989My partner goes to therapy. That's what it is.
I was going to do 20 week cycleThinking instead of just doing my own trt at half the dose (125mg 2x)IDK why I'm saying it, I doubt anyone is going to tell me anything useful given it's just basic trt.I guess I will do bloods and that, do I need to realistically worry about e2? I have ralox to use since it's milder I guess. Can you even come off or am I setting myself up for life? I'm 34 so maybe that's not so bad.
>>75376229A TRT dose already puts you at an advantage since your natural T production falls in a caloric deficit, especially as you get into shredded territory.Unless you're WAY past your genetic limit, a TRT dose will be sufficient for you to hold on to your gains in a cut.Any more than that gives you few benefits compared to the health costs you're incurring by blasting for longer than necessary.
>>75372087sauce
>>75375232The needle is already sterile. The alcohol packet may or may not be sterile. Your hands are not sterile, unless you have correctly applied sterile gloves and are working in a sterile field. Once you touch the alcohol pad with your non-sterile hands it is no longer sterile. When you touch the needle with the non-sterile pad the needle is now no longer sterile. That’s just how sterility works. I will admit that it ultimately doesn’t matter because >>75374422 is right and swabbing doesn’t actually do shit and even at the hospital it’s optional, though most patients want it done because they're used to it. Either way, swabbing the needle is stupid and unnecessary, you’re like a nigger who washes their chicken in the sink.
>>75376178testosterone + anavar is all you need unless you're going for a bodybuilding competition
>>75375898I 100% agree with everything in this post.
How you guys get crazy sex drive?I am on 500 test, 100 var and 100 tren per week and sex drive as normal as always. e2 is about 60 and prolactin below ref
>>75345497Misatofags remain mentally ill
>>75377044Probably because you're on a metric fuckton of gear Jesus christ. Make sure to add 10 mg cialis daily lmao. Rocket to the moon.
>>75366936You've never even been to a therapist. You're just another 4chan memebrain who's entire life experience is from 4chan memes.Whenever you see someone post something that contradicts your worldview built by memes, you post more memes to ease the discomfort in your mind when you're confronted by reality
>>75374953this "muh genetics" cope is so tiring.Coleman was huge because he took massive doses of shit for decades. Yeah he's probably a better responder than most, be he doesnt magic DNA that would make him huge on TRT which is just natty lest levels anyway.He's not bigger than you because magic genetics, he's bigger because he's not a bitch like you
>>75377224Youre joking right anon?
>>75377224Learn to read he said he's a low sex drive cuckfag>>75377044You need to start cruising the gym locker rooms. Your sex drive is low because tren makes you gay. You will be horny when you see another big muscular man all slicked up sith his cock semi-hard stating back at you. You're gonna wanna suck
>>75377257anything over primocel/MPDP 300 test/20 primo and all these manlets start screeching.Nobody wants to roid to be huge and freakisjly strong, these queers want to roid to be a slightly bigger natty and do pump work with 30lbs dumbbellls
>>75376178Tren for cuttingAlso tren for bulking
>>75377044The var rekt your shbg
>>75377287Shit nvm I thought you were doing 100mg dailyIdk nigga
>>75377291100mg var is about equal to 50mg dbol or anadrol in terms of results.So its the minimum dose unless you're a gay primocel
>>75375898high e2: the post
>>75376178200 test, 400 mast /wk4iu hgh, 40mg anavar daily4mg salbutamol, 200 mg caffeine 3x a dayit's probably more gear than required but whatever
>>75377254The guy coming in 25th and making around 67k between prizes, lessons, and appearances, who still drags himself to each major event, should just stop being a bitch. Then he'd win. Goggins on gear would dominate every sport.
>>75377287Is it high or low shbg that lowers sex drive? I wonder if that's the issue i got
How accurate is the average oral syringe? I'd like to do a 100mg weekly total on MWF with a 250mg/ml solution. I'd imagine the total ending up way off if I tried drawing up ~0.13ml. Is this correct? Also would it be better to fill 0.0 to 0.1 with air and then 0.1 to 0.23 with solution?
>>75377624>taking all that shit to just cut when all you need is 150mg test and some semaglutide
>>75378163I assure you that getting 600mg of caffeine a day, severely disrupting my sleep, is a key part of a successful cut
>>75378163you lose more muscle the less gear you use on a cut, why the fuck do you think tren is so popular on a cut retard
>>75378234Unless you're fucking huge (and you're not) a high trt dose is sufficient to prevent atrophy.
>>75378275oh and tren is so popular because retards like you all watch the same tiktoks
