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Sexy asian hooker midget with a huge mole on her thigh that has one really long black hair growing out of it.

Confess.

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>woosh day
My favorite day of the week. 2lbs has left my body. Now for coffee

>>75454943
praise the nuns and ducks.

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I want to show off my losses but the fattie contest is still borked.

I started intermittent fasting yesterday and today was my first day this year without nicotine. I feel okay today, expecting to feel horrific tomorrow. Will keep you guys posted.

it's almost 6pm and today I have consumed:

protein powder with water
double serving of psyllium husk
3 cups of black coffee

about to have steak, potato, and salad for dinner. do I resist the craving to drink a couple beers with my meal?

height: 5'10
starting weight: 194
current weight: 168
goal weight: 155

>>75455106
why not have the beers? have the beers, as long as they fit your macros.

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>>75455106
>Under goal weight
>Thinks he deserves beers

>>75455126
it'll fit, it just makes my deficit 300 calories less

Why do I have such bad gas?

>>75455106
Don't get into the habit of rewarding yourself with something you know you shouldn't have. Be content with the extra deficit. They'll add up overtime.

>>75455146
Your diet, stupid.

>>75455146
Intuitively, I'd say you might have a mismatch between your food intake and your GI flora.
Sticking to eat the same food for a while might encourage your flora to adapt and resolve the issue. Or you might need to gulp a bunch of probiotic supplements to accelerate the process.
The question mark there is whether you'll need to keep taking those probiotics indefinitely or your GI biome will adapt and reach a stable state.

down another kg in the past 10 days. at 92.5kg now at 188cm down from 110. absolutely miserable though

>>75455106
>psyllium husk
How have you found using this?

>>75455235
Keeps my shits regular and easy to pass.

>>75455208
>probiotics indefinitely
this is where I am at. Taking them definately is helping, been pretty regular again after a year of issues. I get weird bloating and distented guts when I try and eat raw salads. Annoys me because its coming into summer, but I really should just stick to my bland boiled veg. Really hate the feeling of being bloated, not sure I could stick it out long enough until my body got used to salads again, to trauma tised from being constipated for 12mths. Happy that my butt has healed, dont want it being destroyed again.

>>75455238
Just mix in a tbsp with your shake, or take it seperately?

>>75455249
I like to enjoy my shake, so I drink it in its own glass of water. It takes like absolute shit so I chug it down as quickly as possible, but you could do both.

>>75455126
>>75455136
>>75455179
I had them but I switched the potato for boiled spinach.
>>75455235
I drink it before dinner so it helps me to feel full easier. and as the other anon said, it makes your shits nice and easy. if you're going to try it, start with a regular dose and let your body adjust before you start adding more. and make sure you drink enough water.

>>75455249
>>75455261
If you let husk sit in the water for more than like 10-15 seconds it turns the water into jello. Even when you chug it it's absolutely revolting and not because it has any particular taste which it doesn't but because what amounts to clumpy textured flavorless water makes you want to barf. I've found no way to consume that isn't awful.

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Low-carb, okay Anon?

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>>75455305
Well when I made strawberry banana smoothies I could mix it in that and it'd mostly mask the awful flavor/texture, but those were too much for my cut so I just use one of those electric mlik frother things to mix it and then I down the glass as fast as possible. It keeps it from turning to jelly long enough for me to down the glass.

remember when they said don't worry about fattycontest breaking? will it unfuck itself tomorrow? will fatty jr swoop in at the 11th hour and save the day? find out twelve hours from now on fattycontest.com!

>250 grams of chicken
>100 grams of some chink noodles
>150 grams of frozen veggies
>sauce
I haven't eaten anything and it's almost 2 am and I couldn't finish this cause I'm so full, wtf

>>75455305
My best results have been to pour 8oz of water in a tumbler, a splash of orange juice, then measure two teaspoons of psyllium husk powder, quickly shake it and gulp it.
The OJ helps with the taste, but obviously not the texture.
Even then, I have neglected to take any in weeks now, so it's still far from great.

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>>75455316
I never realized just how much I pinned my motivation and self worth on the fatty contest until this week.

>>75455330
>fatty contest
It was the only thing in 10 years that helped me drop 100lbs, so was pretty based. Its still logging new entries though right, just hasnt updated the last weeks results. It usually gets reset sometime over the weekend.

I know fasting is somewhat controversial around here but I love it because it's so much more simple, don't put food in mouth for a couple of days then have a couple of meals without stressing about the calories then repeat. Simple as

>>75455444
It's way too miserable for me. I get to the point near the end of the first day where food is all that occupies my mind. Even working, reading, going for a walk doesn't stop the constant thoughts of food.

>>75455444
Fasting works great. When you eat you can avoid carbs to keep the metabolic boost going.

Zero carb has the same benefit of no longer needing to track calories or worry about calories and many people will find it easier because you can just eat whenever you are hungry, as much as needed to satisfy.

>or worry about calories
based keto retard

>>75455452
Yeah this is why I recommend ad lib zerocarb. The freedom to eat unlimited food at all times brings success within reach.

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>>75455456
Anons on unlimited calorie low-carb consistently have better results than Anons who restrict calories.

>>75455461
nice sample size i see you learned a lot at the university of retardation

>>75455313
The problem with low-carb is that healthy people absolutely don't need to go low-carb, and they can go "See? I'm eating lots of carbs and I'm healthy. Pick a better diet."
But in reality, carbs, particularly processed carbs stripped of any fiber, will aggravate metabolic disorders and make a bad situation worse.
I wish every type 2 diabetic patient out there realized that by simply staying away from carbs, they could be in technical remission and get off the insulin injections that slowly aggravate their disease.

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>>75455463
Here is a chart comparing low-carb with low-fat results across all scientific studies.

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Looking for some genuine advice.

I feel like my entire life is consumed around food/what I eat. I think I'm in a depressive episode (mostly because I've gained weight). I've gotten pretty lean/shredded in the past so I think my thoughts around food have been very restrictive/obsessive.

I've always been strict/disciplined when it comes to food but over the last few months I've just gotten tired of it all. I used to be able to fast for a day or more or eat very low calorie.

I think I'm always thinking about food because it's nearly the only source of dopamine in my life I have. It's a sad reality and I don't know how to break it. It's a cycle of depression-eat-feel good-depression. I'm always seeking some sort of stimulation and right now it's all around food/dopamine highs.

Another problem is, I work in the food industry so I'm constantly around food/food sources and I used to be able to resist small snacks during work but now that seems impossible. The only way I can get through a shift is the thought/consumption of food, it's ruining any progress I have to losing or being a decent deficit. It's gotten really bad recently.


I'm seeing a doctor on Monday about possibly taking ADHD medication to see if that will help.

>>75455467
>Anons on unlimited calorie low-carb consistently have better results than Anons who restrict calories.
>Here is a chart comparing low-carb with low-fat results across all scientific studies.
did ketosis make you an idiot or did you slither out of your dumb mother like this

>>75455469
In the same boat. I've gone from 105kg to 85kg then after a year up to 125kg then down to 90kg which I stayed at for 5 years then back up to 110kg and now I'm back at 90. The reality is that there is no answer other than discipline and self-control. I don't have much of either so all I can do is have 0 food in my house except for what I'm going to eat that day. This means I go to the store every day but it's better than being a lardass.

>>75455464
I've read and listened to a lot of Jason Fung and Pradip, assuming what they advocate is true it's actually quite depressing the way we currently treat type 2

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>>75455471
Nine of those studies were comparing unlimited calorie vs restricted calorie. Pic related is one.

The only factor that matters in weight loss is carb consumption. Calories are irrelevant.

>>75455469
Just quit carbs. Eat mostly meat. No need to count or restrict anything.

Once you eat proper human food there is no problem with diet or nutrition. It becomes as easy as breathing.

>>75455477
Again, this is caused by you eating carbs. My weight is stable for years without any effort or exercise thanks to zero carb.

>>75455484
Kill yourself already you annoying fucking twat

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I'm 35
5'11
145lvs
32% Body Fat
how do I fix it?

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Another benefit of quitting carbs is that you don't end up so angry and upset like this plant-based goblinoid leftist: >>75455486

>>75455491
Animal based diet, zero carb, high fat. Mostly beef. Eat as much as possible.

>>75455493
Everyone hates spammers, the disdain for your ilk is universal

>>75455469
Yeah.. I don't know. I got fat by not thinking about what I ate. I've thought about food a whole lot more since I decided to fix my shit and get healthier. I track everything I eat, plan all my meals in advance, research whatever I can to understand what works and what doesn't..
I'm going to boldly assert it's not obsessive behavior on my part because it's fruitful, but I'm not sure an outside observer would agree.
One thing that helped me a lot early on was to embrace supplementation. I started on a crazy megadosing multivitamin, along with some fish oil and some extra vitamin D. I've backed off most megadoses, but I've kept my vitamin D at 6000 IU because I've seen my mood slump in days when I tried to lower it.
None of what you describe really screams ADHD, but funnily enough, it'll probably help anyway because many of the popular ADHD medications out there have appetite-cutting side effects.
In the meanwhile, consider going on more walks, or maybe working out a bit. You've gotta get yourself out of your downward spiral somehow, so anything that'll pull in the other direction may help there.

>>75455479
this study wasn't on "unlimited calories". you saw one post by a lean anon who said that he eats no carb/ unlimited calories

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>>75455499
We're discussing weight loss strategies in a weight loss thread.

You're having a tantrum because the best diet is right-wing coded.

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>>75455512
It is in fact comparing unlimited calorie low-carb vs. restricted calorie low-fat. The superiority of low-carb is so enormous that it always wins. No calorie restriction required. Makes dieting very easy long term.

Here's another (pic related).

>>75455491
5'11?!
MOMMY

>Be latinx
>Every fucking family member is a fat fuck goblin
>Every fucking meal plate is 2 kilos of rice/noodle and barely any meat.
>"AY DIOS MIO ANON A BALANCED MEAL MEANS EATING FILLER AND GORGING ON RICE AND VEGGIES DRENCHED IN SUGAR"

The game was rigged from the start wasn't it?

>>75455523
Yes. Result the deep fried culture

>>75455478
I don't know those guys. I just know that continuous glucose meters make it very easy to experimentally try some really basic rules:
1. when your sugar is above 150, don't eat yet. just sit with your hunger.
2. when you eat, pick low-carb/no-carb options, and watch what happens to your sugar curve.
3. when you sugar curve keeps crashing, consider lowering/discontinuing your sugar lowering medications. Sorry, I meant to say "Ask your doctor if discontinuing your blood sugar level lowering medications is right for you." Obviously.

The dark part of that is that while the first two rules seem really easy, many diabetes 2 folks will struggle with following them. You typically don't catch diabetes 2 by having a healthy amount of control over what you eat. And so it is hard. And so doctors prescribe weird chemicals instead because patients are more likely to stay in compliance that way, and it's still a lot better to take them than to have uncontrolled diabetes.
I can't really blame doctors for picking the lesser evil there. It's just a frustrating situation.

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RFK Jr will finally tell type 2 diabetics they can stop eating carbs.

Just ate an entire pizza from domino's
Washed it down with some mountain dew
I will fave no consequences for this because fatty contest is down

>>75455533
effectively both advocate for the idea that type 2 is primarily the result of insulin resistence which can be treated through dietary change in the form of reducing intake of carbs, heavily processed foods and sugars as well as a reduction in eating frequency to allow the body to redevelop it's insulin sensitivity. Fung in particular suggests that the current treatment of constantly ramping a patients insulin just leads to further weight gain and further insulin resistence requiring further increases which just exacerbates the problem.

Both basically say stop eating so much of XYZ, also stop eating so often, weight goes down insulin sensitivity improves and the disease improves. Fung apparently treats people with type 2 and claims it works but I haven't read the studies so can't confirm either way

had some bloodwork done today.
my a1c is 4.8, so that's cool
my ldl is 134, so that's not
i read that eating 50-100g of nuts helps lower ldl. do these motherfuckers know how many calories that is lol

>>75455616
Yes, that tracks. I'm hesitant to claim that losing weight will always make type 2 diabetes go away entirely, but it's true enough for many folks, and it's a good idea for many other reasons anyway, so worst case it becomes a "what? you made me get healthy and live better and longer for no good reason?" situation.

>>75455702
Careful with the nuts, my last piss test came back full of oxalate crystals because I've been overdoing the nuts for the last few months.
You don't need to go all in with nuts anyway. Just follow the old meme to minimize saturated fats and lean into unsaturated fats. It works.
Yes, there are nuances, but as a first approximation, you can easily get your LDL below 100mg/dl by just doing that.

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FatToFit, Day 15

Current Weight: 203.6
Calories Eaten: 1,480 (protein shake, burger, cottage cheese, pasta, chicken, egg nog)
Protein Eaten: 122g
Exercise Today: none, rest day

Starting Weight: 211.8lbs
Height: 5'10"
Goal: <15% bodyfat

Rest day, felt good. Had egg nog for the first time, only 1/4 cup
Tomorrow I'll run 5-6mi at a hotter time of day, 4x25 push ups, test max sit ups in 2min, and test my chin ups max
Previous: >>75451238

The cute fat girl cashier just had a convo with me about keto breads and prediabetes I'm so in bros

>>75455762
Type 2 diabetes goes away when people quit carbs. It happens before weight loss.

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>>75455762
>Just follow the old meme to minimize saturated fats and lean into unsaturated fats. It works.

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I was watching jewtube and got an older video from Jeffy, listen you got my attention with all the statistics but MFP is completely free. What the FUCK is that price tag.

>>75455616
I have *literally* witnessed this happen to actually close family friend. He still ate some carbs, but ONLY savory carbs and ONLY in small portions. He went from super fat to thin roon body because he took up jogging 3 times a day for short intervals. He ate breakfast and dinner and only drank ice water. It just makes sense to treat it this way.
>>75455702
I haven't had bloodwork run in years, I'm so curious how I look on paper for a full panel. Just for the stats.

>>75455838
It mostly stops mattering when you quit carbs, but it's still there in the background, lurking, waiting for you to fuck up.
Technically, you can still spot a type 2 diabetic from their sugar level graphs even on no carbs, simply because their sugar levels will briefly spike higher than a non-diabetic would after the exact same meal.

>>75455843
That's the crazy thing, I have more muscle mass than I ever did. I have visible muscle when I flex 'n pose. My collarbones are popping and very noticeable. My thighs have that little squiggly where you can always see my quad muscle. But I still have back fat and love handles and fat face cheeks and fatty inner thighs and that queer stomach pouch thing. Which tells me "normal" is just chubby

>>75455645
So... You've always stayed very attractive for her, always worked hard to be handsome and sexy, and if YOU got fat she'd get the ick, but you're expected to be OK with it. Uh huh. And she's managed to guilt trip you into thinking 25lbs is toootally not a large amount of weight for a woman to have extra.
>Average female height is 5'4, let's say her ideal BMI is 22, that means she should be 128lbs. Adding 25lbs sge is now 153lbs and BMI 26.3, which is a decent jump up.
>An average white man of 5'10 with an ideal BMI of 22 should be 153lbs. For him to reach BMI 26.3 he would gain 30lbs and reach 183lbs.
And that assuming we start at ideal BMI of 22, if she was bigger that 25lbs is even worse. God forbid she's shorter.

>>75455918
Here we see the rare area of overlap where 4chan and reddit are in complete agreement: Your relationship is terrible and you should split immediately.
Hit the gym, lawyer up and delete facebook indeed.

I see keto guy is back finally, wonder where he's been all year. He missed so many other weirdos. Imagine him and cabinschizo in the same thread.

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6'3
235lb

Longest streak I've ever been in the gym consistently. Gotta lock in on the diet. Some days I only eat two smaller meals, and I've always been a total sugar avoider but I am weak as fuck to carbs like chips etc. which is probably really slowing my progress. WAGMI bros.

>>75456024
Forgot to blur my face in the last pic. oh well

I need serious advice guys.
>roller coaster ride weight loss and gain for years
>sheer willpower can drive me from a high of 315 to a low of 223 in 6 months flat
>the eventual crash will see me rebound to 275 in 4 months from binging
>rinse and repeat, never break through to new lows just keep bouncing back and forth
>all my life struggled with fat and no muscle gains
>finally get test levels checked
>230ng/dl total test
>out of range low free and bioavailable
>only 37 years old
>endo prescribes me 50mg 3x a week of clomid and 1mg 3x a week anastrozole
>also hopping on zepbound
>scared shitless that I'm about to enter a permanent life altering stage, a point of no return
>worried that these drugs are going to fuck me up even worse than I already am
What would you do? Would you throw your lot in with the meds and hope for the best? Or would you try to find some solution that doesn't involve putting chemicals in your body and possibly fucking it up for life? Am I just being a bitch and these are all safe and nothing to worry about? Help

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>>75456024
If you go zero carb for a little bit you eventually stop desiring them.

>>75455523
stop being brown

>>75456024
Just don't buy the shit. If it's not in your house, you can't eat it. Don't browse at the grocery store either, or go when you're hungry. Get in, get only what you need for the next few days/week, get the fuck out.

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>>75456041
Don't take drugs. The solution to your problems is to forget all the calorie nonsense. They lied to get you to eat grains/sugar/seed oils and take drugs.

The cure to all your problems is very easy: learn to categorize food as either FATTENING or SLIMMING.

Examples of fattening food:
- sugar
- flour
- vegetable oils

Example of slimming food:
- meat
- eggs
- butter
- cheese aged 6+ months
- fish
- fermented vegetables

You can eat unlimited amounts of slimming food. The more the better. No limit. No hunger. No counting. Eat slimming food.

Avoid fattening food. As close to zero as possible.

>>75456024
>>75456066
I've done no carbs for a bit, and it feels just very restrictive.
Nowadays I'm on a fairly disciplined low carb (keto bread with 1 net carb per slice, but absolutely no processed carbs beyond that), but that still allows me to get as much fresh vegetables and whole fruits as my calories can fit, which means I get mostly adequate amounts of fiber and phytonutrients.

Still, many diet plans start with a very low-carb/no carb period for good reasons. It does help to reset things happening inside of you.
I wouldn't claim it'll make all your cravings go away altogether, that'd be too easy, but it certainly won't hurt.

>>75456096
No carb is freedom, like quitting alcoholism.

Carb slaves spend their life counting and restricting everything they eat to mitigate the harm caused by their addiction.

>>75456096
>phytonutrients

soi

>>75456105
Love me potatoes
love me rice
love me beans
love me vegetables
simple as

Fatty Contest
TheObeseBrit
278lbs

BELLY
GO
DOWN

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Made some navy-style pasta with a twist again today.
1423 kcal in that plate - about 460g of food.
+154 for Dr Pepper
+161 for the chocolate I had with my morning coffee

1738 total so far.
I'll probably have some milk tea with a couple of cookies later today.

>>75456257
>full fat Dr pepper
>chocolate
>cookies
Ngmi

>>75456257
absolutely revolting sloppa, please don't post here again until you learn how to cook

>>75456261
cope
>>75456268
>until you learn how to cook
LMAO, imagine thinking I'll take suggestions from a genuine clueless cooklet

>>75456257
>1738 total so far.
STOP

>>75456311
>STOP
I will. In about 260 kcal, how I've been doing every single non-drinking day for the last 5 months.

Damn, frozen broccoli is not so good after being used to fresh. Dont think its worth it even in a pinch.

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Fatty Contest
Hulkster
105.4 kg

2.2 kg gone just like that.

>>75455208
I heard there was a study recently that said probiotic supplements actually inhibit gut recovery for people who took antibiotics.
but people who ate fermented food like yogurt and kimchi had a better recovery.
I forget where I heard it though so don't take this as fact

>>75456366

Frozen veggies are disgusting except onions and peppers.

>>75456257
How is that plate 1423 kcal? Did you use 100g oil?

>>75456462
>How is that plate 1423 kcal?
125g of pasta - 500 kcal
230g of minced meat (7:3 beef and pork) - about 600 kcal on the higher end.
235g of onion - 94 kcal
5g of EVOO - 45 kcal
18g of butter - 144 kcal
10g of parmesan - 40 kcal

1423 kcal total.
>Did you use 100g oil?
No, silly, that'd be 900 kcal of just oil.

>>75456472
based calorie counter

>>75456472
Revolting

>>75454943
to all anons struggling with fat loss
it is not complicated
turn off all outside influence
all media brainwashing
everything you've ever heard about anything ever period
do the following, it is easy
skip breakfast, drink UNSWEETENED coffee, tea. anything warm
keep drinking warm stuff until noon
now you eat a high protein high carb meal
something like skyr with a tablespoon of honey
this should get you through to dinner no more liquids and food needed, but feel free to drink warm teas, unsweetened if you have no issues with falling asleep
eat dinner right after work, high fat dinner with citrus juices and shieet dinner is vitamin time you better be eating eggyolks, cod liver, salmon, such stuff on a piece of malt bread or just regular bread, keep it small
you won't feel hungry at any time
the high protein high carb are satiating at noon and give energy from you crashing down from coffee and tea, and at dinner you eat highly nutritious foods, which also give a different feeling of satiation
best of all worlds
this works even better if you're a smoker
just spam coffee and cigarettes in the morning

>>75456513
No one asked for your terrible advice

>>75456472
I ran this through my personal calorie counter script and this was the result:

> List of all item results:
> Result of item 1: 446.42857142857144
> Result of item 2: 416.7058823529412
> Result of item 3: 163.9764705882353
> Result of item 4: 102.5
> Result of item 5: 40.0
> Result of item 6: 131.14285714285714
> Result of item 7: 40.0
> Total of all results: 1340.7537815126052
>
> 1341 calories

You're off by 82 calories. although it's better to over-estimate I suppose.

>>75456472
>>75456523
least autistic cico dieters

>>75456523
Sounds about right.
I highball all dry carbs to 4 kcal/g, so I don't have to bother looking up the calories in that specific brand of pasta or kind of rice.
Most butters are around 7.5 kcal/g, but there's a brand-to-brand variance there as well, so I just highball it to 8 kcal/g.
For the mince of this kind, I just googled it, there were a few results for about 2.2~2.3 kcal/g, but there was also one for 2.6, so I decided to go with that one, as the mince didn't look particularly lean to me.

>>75456545
>least autistic cico dieters
If it works - it works.
I'm happily eating tasty things I like and losing around 3 kg a month while the
>ackchually I hecking LOVE eating nothing but broccoli and chicken breast
people here are only losing their shit and screeching how I'm NGMI ever time I post literally anything.

The cookies are 166 kcal per pack of two.
I guess I'll skip the apple today and have 130g of milk with my tea instead.
That'll be precisely 2000 kcal.

The apple I'll eat tomorrow.

>>75456593
>I guess I'll skip the apple today
Well how the hell are you going to keep the doctor away now?

>>75456600
I WENT TO DENTIST LITERALLY THIS WEEK OKAY
I HAVE DOCTOR IMMUNITY

Why must the scale taunt me and not go down

>>75456455
Thanks. I agree

>eat pasta
>gassy as fuck
this always happens, I hate being bloated. just another reason to never indulge in garbage if you can help it.

>>75456772
pasta alla napoletana is a very light dish, you could try that out.
But if you're trying to eat low calorie and high protein, that's probably not the best idea.

>>75456802
I'm sure there are better alternatives to what I ate, which was some basic ass egg-based noodle pasta from a bag, but honestly it's better to just abstain from that stuff all together. pizza is more my thing anyway tb.h.

>>75454943
>live longer to eat more
Fatty mindset. This is why you guys fail.

>>75456867
thanks miku. you're always such a lifesaver.

>>75456863
You fail, I win.

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>I need to be around 63kg to be under 12% bodyfat

>>75456863
Imagine not enjoying food

Holy shit guys, tuna is so filling, make sure its crispy and rubbery airfried/baked Tuna since it will literally fill your stomach unlike raw/canned runa that turns to mush when you chew on it. Shame about the mercury but holy shit I never felt so satiated with so little calories.

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>>75456579
>If it works - it works.
It doesn't.

I sauted up an onion and spinach. Generally, I don't really enjoy the spinach cooked like this, but I added some vinegar, and it gave the whole dish some tang. Gonna do it again, but adding a little more next time.

Anyone here using creatine? What's your experience with waterweight? Just started using it and bloated the fuck up after a 2 weeks, gained 5kg despite being in deficit. Anyone else had a similar experience?

I'm at 285 lbs and weightloss has stalled at 240 lbs. Sometimes scale go up, sometime it goes down but I stay around 240. Do I just increase my deficit even more? I've been eating 500-1000 calories below my TDEE

>>75457151
Take 5g daily. I don't know about gaining 11 lb though, at most it should be about 5 lbs from extra water retention. And it shouldn't make you look bloated, most of the water is pulled directly into muscle cells. Might be something else going on.
>>75457127
Works and has worked for a lot of us. You do what you want, we'll do what we want. People that regain weight after losing a bunch is usually because they fall back into old habits and ways of eating (pure slop and lots of it). Seeing that with ozempic now, people come off it and balloon back up because they never formed sustainable, healthy eating habits.

>>75457191
Measuring what you eat, tracking it in a diary, and forcing yourself to be hungry isn't healthy eating habits. It's severely sick modern derangement.

CICO results in guaranteed weight regain because of the metabolic hormonal diseases it causes or exacerbates.

>>75457127
BMR is always slowing as people age, more importantly, I'd wager all of these contestants that regained weight never stuck to or modified their lifestyle/food choices. A slower BMR can't yoyo effect someone who counts calories, exercises regularly (including weight lifting), eats clean, modifies caloric intake to work with said lower BMR.

Nope. These contestants are the guys you see going back to mcdonald's and taking fat burn pills because "damn the biggest loser competition was so hard I don't wanna suffer like that again."

They have an unrealistic view on the intensity of effort required to lose weight. They also have a weak mental constitution.

>>75457162
Have you recalculated your TDEE for your new weight? If you're not losing, then you're overestimating your deficit.

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>>75457226
Eating carbs lowers metabolism, causes muscle loss, and increases hunger.

Calorie dogma is not the cure, it's the cause of obesity.

When CICO fails, which it inevitably will, just remember you can succeed by quitting carbs. No hunger, no measuring, no tracking.

>>75457219
Tracking takes a few minutes out of an entire day.
I never felt particularly hungry.
I went from 33%+ to 12%, and I've stayed at or under 15% for a year and a half since, even eating at a surplus.
Seems to work just fine for me, so I'll keep doing what I'm doing.
>>75457240
>causes muscle loss
lol, lmao even

>>75457251
Post body.

>>75457240
High glycemic index, yes. It enters your bloodstream quicker, so you feel hungry sooner. That can be good if you're an athlete.

Low glycemic foods are good for everyone in moderation. Eat your fuckin complex carbs, but eat more high quality protein with some healthy fats.

>>75457257
The best way to get carbs is to eat zero carbs and let your body make the perfect amount needed.

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>>75457272
Why eat carbs? Carb consumption just causes an unhealthy hormonal response.

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>>75457255
Included dexa history just for you. Weird that I could add 16 lbs of lean mass despite eating all those evil carbs.
Your turn, try not to use the same one from three years ago though. Be a little more current.

>>75457291
>no timestamp
Post body.

>>75457312
We've had this dance before (missed you btw babe). You can have a timestamp when you post your own with a timestamp. All of the ones you use on /fit/ are literally years old. Until then, you'll just have to trust me.

>>75457323
You're fat and your diet doesn't allow you to maintain a good physique. That's why you can't post a timestamped photo on demand.

You lose.

>>75456867
I love you miku

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gonna go for another 12 hours probably and then stuff my face with thai food or indian food

I’ve noticed when I fast I start craving spice a lot more than normal

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>>75457344
>No I won't post a picture with current timestamp, all you get is three-plus year old shit and a butthurt reply.
Lol, poor little guy. It's ok, I understand. If you were next to me right now I'd gently pat you on the head and tell you it will all be alright.

>>75456261
Wtf is full fat Dr. Pepper

/fat/ - you post body! no, you post body!

>>75456257
2000 calories
enjoy reaching your goal in four years

>>75457291
Looking good anon
Big vein on arms is my long time goal followed by abs

>>75457360
Interesting. Any idea to why it makes you want spicy food?

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>>75457366
Any emotion you read into the post you're replying to is projection. It's just a logical deduction from the fact that you failed to post body.

You did not post body. Therefore you do not have a good physique. Therefore your diet is poor. Therefore you have lost the argument.

QED

>>75457391
Honestly I have no idea, but it happens every time.

>>75457397
>You did not post body (with timestamp), therefore you do not have a good physique, and therefore your diet is poor.
Same applies to you then babe. I guess we both secretly look like shit kek.
Anyway, while your endless deflection is cute, unfortunately I have to get to work. Have a good day /fat/bros.

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>>75457418
Your writing style is effete. Your bad diet has messed up your hormones. You are feminized.

You lost the argument the moment you failed to post body.

my dad is old and doesn't look that fat but has a 6.9% a1c. i would like to help him lower it but i don't know the first thing about this shit. i know fasting would help but again, he's old, so i don't think that's going to happen. any suggestions?

>>75457442
Reduce carbs. Increase meat, egg, and cheese.

>>75456366
>>75456455
What? Roasted or psn seated i think they're fine. Just as nutrient rich too. Skill issue.

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>>75456545
It's MY autism and I'm making it work for ME.

>>75457426
Calling people effete and trying to use shaming tactics to shut people up is cuntbrained behavior. Apparently you took the wrong hormones

I hate zero calorie labels for shit like seasonings, incredibly unhelpful

>>75457493
>to shut people up
"Post body" is quite the opposite.

He shut himself up because his diet has left him flabby. I am sure he has some excuse like he is "bulking". Nevertheless he is so ashamed of his physique he ran away.

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>>75457495
Calorie dogma is not only unhelpful it is counterproductive.

>>75457495
It's the same for everything, just becomes obvious with zero cal labels. Producers can round nutritional information to some extent, but it's not much. For calories, anything with fewer than five per serving can label it as zero. Similar for macros, anything under 1g can be labeled as zero, etc.

>>75456105
You also restrict everything you eat and are scared of carbs. Learn to deal with your issues instead of having panic attacks where you need to spam threads annoying everyone instead of tackling your issues.

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>>75457516
Carbs are delicious treats I enjoy any time I want.

You view the world through emotion instead of logic because you are unintelligent, fat, and left-wing.

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heh look at these guys tryin to get in shap ull NEVER be as stronk as me., picrel my biceps after a good pump

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I ate the slop.

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>>75457555
I was craving slop so I bought two whoppers. Might as well fucking kill myself.

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Do you guys have nightmares where you eat a bunch of junk food and gain all the weight back or is it just me

>>75457563
Thats not bad though, good protein, some carb refeed.

>>75457563
Should have had them without the buns.

>>75457570
I usually have nightmares about my teeth falling out or losing a lot of money...

>>75457570
no but when I go to sleep hungry I'll end up dreaming about food. last night I dreamed I was waiting in line at a crowded burger stall and by the time I got up to order the guy told me they were out of everything and I got really pissed off.

>>75457291
Looking good Sgt! I actually do remember you, we've talked before. The bulk looks successful, was it a lean bulk? I met my goal of being in the acceptable weight range, but I'm still high body fat. I actually do have an issue that an old devil might have other advice for, I've been feeling hefty burnout. I run 3 days a week and some days I hit the wall, I try to do actual lifting routines on non-running days, and I'm in a decent deficit of calories. Yesterday I woke up feeling really heavy, tired, spacey. Advice given was just rest but I don't really want to rest until Monday. Is rest and upping my calories really the only thing I can do?

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>>75457596
Do you look at least as good as the sedentary guy in pic related?

If not there must be something wrong with your diet.

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>Bought a new bench with a leg extension attachment
>Position it, so I can open and close the door to my home gym without banging the door on it
Now I just have to profusely explain what's going on whenever I have guests over who doesn't know what leg extensions is.

>>75457579
Nightmares where your teeth fall out or all rot into stumps or break are very common actually and in fact they're so common that we know what those nightmares mean. Teeth, nightmares indicate that you feel like your life is actively falling apart and there's nothing you can do about it, our teeth are how we eat. We cannot function without our teeth. Our teeth also something that tells others that we're attractive and take care of ourselves and teeth are extremely expensive to fix and there's no emergency room for your teeth either. You have to schedule a dentist appointment and hope that you can make it before your pain becomes overwhelming.
>>75457570
Yeah actually i had a dream just last night that my spouse wanted a date night and said "one night won't hurt" and i binged and binged and ate so much food that I looked like deviant art inflation porn. I stepped on the scale and saw the highest number I guess i could imagine. I woke up sweating and touching my abdomen.

>>75457611
Lick my taint ketard.

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>>75457657
>Teeth, nightmares indicate that you feel like your life is actively falling apart

Well that checks out.

>31 NEET, never worked and will never work
>no gf or ability to create a family
>everyone around me (friends) marries, have children, a house and a car

At least I am roided up and big and people mire me in the gym, r-right?

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>>75457669
Why can't you work or breed? What's so wrong with you?

>>75457678
I can't wake up in the morning and I don't want to pay taxes or social-welfare contributions in my country.

>or breed?
My LH/FSH is 0 and my sperm is like water (0 sperm count), since years.

>>75457669
you could simply get a job and go on a date… you could actually do all of that next week kek
your chains are all mental

>>75457579
I have the same teeth nightmare
Also another really common nightmare I have is going back to school after missing months of class and realising how fucked I am with the exams meaning I have no chance for a good future

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>>75457687
>you could simply get a job
I am really stupid and I didn't learn anything, I aborted school after 10th class.

>your chains are all mental
Yeah no shit, that's why it's so bad.
Physically I could, but mentally I can't.

But let's not derail the /fat/ thread here with my problems!!!

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>>75457667
>do something
>it has bad results
>get angry at the people who warned you
>keep doing it
Calorie believers are a lot like people who take mRNA injections.

>>75457698
I get those too. The I'm back in highschool, no clue what I'm doing on exams since I missed so much school or trying to catch up with old friends at lunch who have moved on without me and don't even recognize me anymore. I guess that's what happens when you're a NEET in his mid-30s and the last time you had any real normal social interaction was almost two decades ago.

>>75457505
Please get a new bit

>>75457698
>>75457729
I get the same but instead I'm naked in school and realise it too late

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>>75457733
Why mess with success?

Bought diet pop against...

>>75457879
this poster ate and left no crumbs

Why do we gotta conform to what normies say is goodlooking and healthy just bc theyre the majority. fuck them i say, us fat people should be considered hot not like its easy beinh fat things are difficult like showering. we put hard work into taking care of ourselves then people on the street call us fat fucks like seriously?

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Post better bait plz

>>75457895
Nonce

>>75457686
Marry an infertile woman who's open to adopting. Or is just happy without children. Boohoo, you have to pay taxes, but in return you're actually able to support yourself in a meaningful way and improve your quality of life exponentially. Just get a night crew job.
>>75457700
It is very noble that you want to keep the thread on track, but again, it actually really is you making all of these problems just because you don't want to expend effort which is crazy, considering that you claim to be in good physical shape. How are you in great physical shape but you don't have the diligence to just learn a skill for work and find a schedule that actually works for you???

>Plateau still not breaking after a fast and only eating 850 calories the past 2 days
Just fucking kill me.

>>75457939
You can’t talk someone out of extreme laziness. He has to find a reason all his own.

>>75457939
>How are you in great physical shape but you don't have the diligence to just learn a skill for work and find a schedule that actually works for you???

Because lifting and roiding are a good coping mechanism and on top of it, it is super simple. I have all the free time in the world, bike to the gym and pick up heavy things for 1-2 hours a day with occasional offdays, plan my food accordingly, sleep whenever I want and relax all day without any stress in the world. That really takes no skill or intelligence.
So being in that position if I couldn't archieve a good body, who could? That's my obligation!

Not wanting to humble brag here, but I can also easily hook up with women and find dates.
But once they get to know the position I am in they go on the run, I also find most women boring or ugly and not worth my time.
Also inviting girls and going out for dates is too expensive for my NEET situation, my welfare goes to my gym membership, roids (kind of cheap) and food.

I guess I am being too comfy in my position and too lazy to do anything about it.

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>>75457983
As if you knew what I would respond to him.

See >>75457986
>I guess I am being too comfy in my position and too lazy to do anything about it.

>>75457986
>Not wanting to humble brag here, but I can also easily hook up with women and find dates.
>But once they get to know the position I am in they go on the run
lmao

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>>75458039
Hey, don't laughing!

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>>75454943
I love nuns and ducks so fucking much

Any recommendations for fitness trackers/smart watches? I've never had one before. Are they just a meme?

>>75458076
They're ok for things like heart rate. They're dogshit for tracking calories burned. Everything is though, unless you have access to lab equipment to run doubly labeled water tests (for TDEE) and pulmonary gas exchange (for exercise).

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>>75458076
I still use sport watch (Garmin Forerunner 405) I bought in 2008

>>75458095
Shit, really? Thanks. I guess the heart rate might be sorta helpful.

>people in work commented on my weight loss
Am i making it bros?

>>75458129
You have a job and a social life, that's better than at least half the people in this thread.

>>75458126
It's useful if you care about heart rate zones for shit like cardio, for example low-intensity steady state cardio vs high intensity cardio. Also if you pair it with an app like Strava, you can keep track of what your heart rate was for past workouts. Useful for seeing when you need to start pushing harder.

Is "going too low on calorie will destroy your metabolism" just a meme or true?

I weight 270 lb (male) and I want to get about 150g of protein and 1600 kcal daily. Is that too low?

>>75458227
Nah, you good.

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>>75458227
>Is "going too low on calorie will destroy your metabolism" just a meme or true?
100% a meme, its just unhealthy to cut too heavily for too long. Generally don't go beyond -1000kcals from your TDEE if you can help it. What does happen is you'll subconsciously start persevering energy whenever you're not intentionally exercising.

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I’m confused. I see some articles claiming the only way to lose side torso fat is via dedicated exercises while others claim it’s only via dieting.
So which one is it?

>>75458262
Spot reduction is a myth. How your body allocates fat is genetic, the only way to lose it is to just lose weight in general, and the way to lose weight is to create a caloric deficit, primarily accomplished through dieting, although exercise can play a role.

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>>75458227
The relevant factor is whether you are eating carbs or not.

Carbs spike insulin which will cause your metabolism to slow down in order to retain body fat.

>>75458268
You do not need to lose weight to lose fat, you can add muscle and stay the same weight

>>75458268
>>75458273
Thanks for the explanation

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>>75458269
Should I take Psyllium Husk Powder? Its entirely dietary fiber, that should improve insulin response right?

>>75458286
fiber doesn't count as a true carb if I remember right

>>75457372
Anon, my BMR is above 2000.
If I continue losing weight at the same pace I'm going right now, in four years I'll go into negatives.

I’m trying to understand why coke is bad. Coke as in cola and all.
I’v started managing my calory intake, leaving coke for the weekend but when I see its composition, it’s oddly low? Less kcal than an equivalent glass of milk, though about 60 more carbs in 200ml and less than 1/10th of sodium.
Is the bottle lying to me or some other component at play here?

>>75458286
No, fiber supplementation is not beneficial. Studies showing benefit from fiber are actually showing benefit of reduced carbs.

Ideally just quit carbs. Eat mostly meat.

>>75458301
>In four years

>>75458302
But you could just drink diet for 2 cals

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>>75458302
Coca-Cola is a carb.

>>75458302
Pure refined sugar will make you insulin resistant and make you gain fat and what not.
Its trash.

>>75458306
When I just eat meat my shit has an awful consistency and becomes difficult to pass.

>>75458310
The taste isn’t to my liking
>>75458313
>>75458314
So it’s more of an issue of the quality/composition of its sugar rather than the quantity itself? And milk has a healthier type?

>>75458326
>The taste isn’t to my liking
Anon sometimes you have to do the right thing, and diet is the right thing.

>>75458326
Well not everyone tolerates the sugar in milk aswell, but if you have fatty milk it contains protein, fat and several micronutrients which in combination with lactose won't spike your insulin that much.
If you drink coke with a fatty steak would that be better? Maybe, but why drink sugar in the first place.
That's wasted potential to get in good, nutritious food (high in fat, protein and micronutrients) in my diet.
I look at it that way.
Can you drink coke as a really rare treat? Yes, but I wouldn't consider it as a part of a healthy diet.

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>>75458326
You can get lean just by focusing on macronutrient composition of your diet.

Eat low-carb, high-fat. Aim for 1:1 protein to fat by weight.

If you avoid carbs you don't need to measure your food, log it in a diary, or restrict intake. Eat as much low-carb food as needed to satisfy hunger.

>>75458350
Bro shut the fuck up

>>75458302
>I’m trying to understand why coke is bad. Coke as in cola and all.
It's not "bad". There's nothing inherently "bad" in sugars, regardless of what the OP and people say.
But drinking your calories is the easiest way of overeating.
Sodas are just very unfilling while being fairly high-calorie.
You compare it to milk, but 1-to-1 milk is much more satiating than a soda.

When you're trying to reduce your daily intake, skipping on sodas is a rather easy and a fairly impactful step you can do.
You should also understand, that if your daily calorie goal is low, drinking 150~200 kcal worth of sugar is very likely to mean you won't be able to eat something with nutrients you need more.
Sugar is great for energy but that's all it's good for.

>>75458365
>There's nothing inherently "bad" in sugars
Yeah that's wrong.
Insulin resistance is inherently bad and sugars do that, nothing to do with overeating.
You can undereat and purely drink sugars and your body will fuck up in no time.

>>75458369
>Insulin resistance is inherently bad and sugars do that
This is literally false.
There is ZERO evidence for insulin spikes caused by consuming sugars causing any harm in healthy people.
Insulin is demonized and misunderstood to a ridiculous extent. The myths surrounding it are utterly retarded.

Fatty Contest
AbuGarcia
239.8

>>75458331
It’s what I’m doing, dude. I’m not drinking this everywhere, most of the week I’m drinking water and eating fruits. That’s why I’m balancing out between milk and coke.
I already lost 4.3kg over the course of 3 weeks with this schedule, that’s why I’m asking these questions, because I want to figure out if there is something I missed. Because in pure numerical value I’m still at deficit even with these concessions but I was worried there could be something else.
>>75458337
Okay so if I understood this: it’s the fellow components in the milk that actually balance it out and they lack outright in the coke.
>>75458350
Well guess I’m doing something right seeing those results. Though technically my issue is on this painful hunger and headaches I have. I eat, eat and eat until I’m full and I still starve. By the time the weekend arrives just seeing a slice of bread causes a hollow pain through my body
>>75458365
Oh okay I guess then I understand where this is coming from. So it’s less of whatit has, but what it lacks. And instead of a soda I could eat much more fulfilling meals.

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>>75458380
>There is ZERO evidence for insulin spikes caused by consuming sugars causing any harm in healthy people.
Ahahahahhahah educate yourself nigga
0/10

>>75458365
It's not a moral judgement. In a practical sense, carbs are fattening. Sugar is the most fattening of all carbs.

Eating carbs is contrary to the goal of being lean.

>healthy people eat bread and are completely fine
>somehow carbs are poison that makes you fat just because they are
The issue isn't carbs it's too much carbs. Just eat less.

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The O
288.4

>>75458388
0/10 reading comprehension

>>75458395
>healthy people eat bread and are completely fine
>70% of americans are overweight

You tried.

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>>75458388
>show insulin going up and then down
>thinks this somehow means it proves it dangerous
this is bait right?

>>75458398
>>75458405
Sugar raises insulin and insulin resistance is the cause of all modern diseases in every organ.
The lower your fasting insulin levels, the better. The less carbs you eat and the less frequent you eat, the healthier you are metabolically.
That's not rocket science, and you need to educate yourself on that topic.
I have probably read a dozen books regarding glucose, insulin and the impact on carbohydrate, modern diseases and all that.

>>75458403
NTA but how bad is it with you americans? I’m more inclined to believe the issue is on the bread you eat. Or that your food is needlessly spiked with something else. I know for sure the chocolate over there tastes horrible.
Because as much as there can be overweighted and obese people here in [spoiler]Brazil[/spoiler] they can lose weight even with bread on the diet.

>>75458416
> I have probably read a dozen books regarding glucose, insulin and the impact on carbohydrate, modern diseases and all that.
and you’re STILL fat

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>>75458395
Most people are metabolically unhealthy.

The people who successfully cure metabolic disease do it by quitting carbs.

>>75458423
And you are mentally unhealthy

>>75458388
First, you are retarded.
Second, your picture doesn't prove your point whatsoever.
Third, your picture is fucking retarded and wrong regardless.
By far the biggest insulin spike per day happens RIGHT BEFORE your first scheduled meal of the day.
The actual insulin response to eating is miniscule in comparison.

if someone has spent every waking moment of their life on /fat/ you should not take their advice on anything

really, you should not be listening to anyone in this thread at all

all these people know about dieting is how to fail and be fat

if you are reading this, you are fat and your reply won’t matter so don’t type it

>>75458435
bait + not an argument

Fatty Contest
Bongoman
221.0lbs

>Some 42% of Americans are obese, compared with just 4.5% of Japanese people.
>The japanese diet is rich in steamed rice, noodles, fish, tofu, natto, seaweed, and fresh, cooked, or pickled fruits and vegetables
> It may also contain some eggs, dairy, or meat, although these typically make up a small part of the diet.
https://archive.is/2YPHe
https://archive.is/bz8XY
Oh no keto bros its not looking good

Was there a particular moment that made you decide to lose weight or was it a gradual thing?

>>75458548
I got depression.

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>>75458548
Yes, it was realizing that I will die in my 40's if I don't reverse course.

But I'm a bugman living in a bug hive so I'm surrounded by slop all the time, so it's a difficult journey.

>>75458548
I’ve wanted to lose weight for my entire life. I’ve been bullied since fourth grade for having man boobs and not being able to run. I was just too lazy or stupid to put those feelings into action until I became a young adult in my early 20’s.
Now I am over halfway to my goal body.

>>75458539
>the okinawa myth
>"island of pork"
lmao that has been debunked a million of times

The original inhabitants of the Ryūkyū Islands, of which the island of Okinawa is the largest, are believed to have the highest life expectancy in the world.

One of the staples of their diet is sweet potatoes. The carbohydrate percentage of a sweet potato is about 20; that is, each 100 g of sweet potato mass has about 20 g of carbohydrates. Sweet potatoes have a medium-high glycemic index, and are often avoided by those with impaired insulin sensitivity, and certainly by diabetics.

The other main staple of their diet is pork, as you may have inferred from the title of this post. The quote below is from the first of the three links provided below the quote.
Pork appears so frequently in the Okinawan diet that to say "meat" is really to say "pork." [...] It is no exaggeration to say that the present-day Okinawan diet begins and ends with pork.
http://www.wonder-okinawa.jp/026/e/pork.html
http://www.okinawaindex.com/index/?tid=2&cid=250&id=2
http://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110000220190/en

So, what is the secret of the Okinawans’ longevity? Maybe it is the diet. Maybe it is the lifestyle. Maybe it is the fact that their mothers and fathers are Okinawans (the heritability of longevity has been estimated to be about 33%, and to be higher among females than males). Here are some interesting points that are worth noting:

- Their diet is not only of meat, but includes plenty of it.

- Their diet is not particularly low in saturated fat, and maybe it is high in it.

- Their diet is not particularly low in dietary cholesterol, and maybe high in it, since they eat the pig whole, including the parts (e.g., organs) rich in dietary cholesterol.

- Their diet is not a no carb diet, not even a typical low carb diet, but it seems to be very low in refined carbs and sugars.

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>>75458548
One day i just took a long look in the mirror and was disgusted, like utterly disgusted by what i saw
>manboobas
>big beer-belly
>lower stomach covered in stretchmarks
>flabby arms that old fat women have
>stretch marks where i used to have a nice bicep-muscle going all the way up to my armpit
Later that night while i was in bed i reached down to feel the backside of my thighs and could just feel the deep stretchmarks coming up my legs
Im probably always gonna be disgusted by myself but at least i could try and lose some of that weight

>>75458548

Little brother got Type 2 diabetes. As much as I felt awful for him, I couldn't help that in reality, I felt like it should have been me.

I'm bigger, probably eat more goyslop, drank far more sugary drinks than him and he got unlucky.

But, we're now in this journey together. Hopefully it works out for us both.

>>75458578
>okinawa
Oh yeah i forgot Okinawa is all of Japan......
Sure showed me there anon

>>75458590
Its literally their argument in the one article lmao
Based on that, that has been debunked :)
Nice try.

Fatty Contest
FatDumpster
93.3kg

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>>75458601
>debunked
Prove to me that most Japanese people eat almost only pork, not in Okinawa but all of Japan

>>75458548
Seemingly out of nowhere, without any obvious event or trigger I just wasn't content being a 350lb 34yo virgin NEET anymore. I just woke up one day and Anime, Vidya, and Porn didn't fill the void anymore like they used to. Without anything better to do I just started trying to lose weight, and improve my health. Hoping that along the way I could start to sort out what the fuck I'm going to do about my life.

>>75458548
My 3rd heart attack

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>>75458448
Yeah the only people who should be giving advice in this thread are the ones who lost weight and kept it off 3+ years.

>>75458628
that's not you though

Eating only 2000 calories when you're active and lift 3 times a week is rough man.

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>>75458659

>>75458675
Post body with timestamp then and show us, anon.

>>75458675
bro i just used 150 calories of just butter to fry my eggs, aint no way you're not tubby as fuck if you're putting this shit in your coffee every day

>>75458681
He won't

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>>75458675
Reminder

Comfy /fat/ will return. I belive it.

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hey bros, decided to share my progress
started the soda and doughnuts-only died two weeks ago, seems like it's working great for me.
went down 80 pounds, and my muscles are looking real good now
funny thing, I haven't lifted a day in my entire life, and I work from home
actually, I was paralyzed my entire life but I completed a full recovery on this diet
dunno if it's good but it seems to work for me

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>>75458705

>dietschizos at it again
yeb im out

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>>75458740
>yeb

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>>75458688
I fell for some Big Single-Use-Kitchen-Tool propaganda on this general a month ago or so and bought an egg cooker.
It's not bad. It plays a silly little tune when it's done. But more interestingly, it allows you to cook eggs a few different ways, none of them requiring grease. Upkeep is minimal too, which is great for a lazy bastard like me.

I just tried pooping weight loss program.
I pooped and lost a two pounds in 3 minutes.
I'll be at my goal weight in 90 minutes tops.
Can keto do that?
Thought so.

Fatty Contest
Grug
288.2 lbs

>daily rate of weight loss -0.13kg
>-1.2 points in BMI this month
>-0.5% BF down this month
>-3.80kg down this month
this is good progress yes?

>>75458772
Depends.
If you are a 300 kg whale, then no.
If you're a 50 kg skelly then it's great.

For most people around half a kilo a week is a very good pace.

>>75458787
im around 130kg 188cm

>>75458770
>posted then scrolled through
What a fucking shit thread. Oh well.

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I figured out how retarded I was being and why I was stalling.
>set a deficit of 1000 calories
>proceeded to keep the same lifestyle of neetdom
>on the pc all day not leaving the home
>changed it up this month same deficit, but i started doing cardio EVERY DAY. either doing 1 hour walk or 1 hour on my home bike
>lose 1kg every week without stalls
I was such an idiot thinking I can lose weight without moving every day. Hope this helps someone.

TIL that the /fat/ schizoposters are all incredibly lean and buff, descending from Olympus to share their divine madness with us mere mortals.
Maybe one day I'll become a schizoposter too. Let's see.. I could be the God of Eating Only Mushrooms..

>>75458827
if you weren't losing weight you weren't at a deficit

>>75458985
I was in a deficit. I tracked every gram of food carefully, EVERYTHING. I was sometimes losing very little in a week or stalling. The only thing I changed was daily movement, and it was like it kick started my weight loss. I consistently lost 1kg a week this month due to this.

>>75459005
When calculating TDEE The "Sedentary Lifestyle" option over estimates how much the typical NEET moves around, use the "Constricted Lifestyle" setting instead.

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do you guys have a list of simple recipes or something in order to decide what to eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner every day? stuff like pic rel aren't really helpful compared to "sandwich [bread+milk cream+ham with a glass of yoghurt (the liquid european one)]". of course a sandwich can have lots of different ingredients and I'm curious to know what I could actually cook instead of just assemblind sandwiches with various stuff in them. and I'm looking for all sorts of recipes, not just keto like pic rel would suggest.

>>75459041
>Go to youtube
>type in Keto meal recipes
>???
>Profit

>>75458827
Yeah, I had the same experience, except I was still losing weight before but it slowed eventually and I introduced walking without changing my diet and I was back to losing weight very quickly.

The thing people don't understand is that even if cardio is only like 300 extra burned calories, when your body is in a near equilibrium, those 300 calories go a long fucking way to losing you weight. If you were at a 300 deficit and made it 600 now you doubled your weight loss speed.

And seeing your weight on the scale go down every other day does wonders for your own ability to stick to the diet, so it's just all around a good idea.

>>75456513
>Citrus with my steak
This might just be the answer to my digestion issues.

>>75459070
you know whats funny, all the people promoting keto on youtube seem to be fat. i rarely see a skin/ripped dude doing keto on youtube. makes you wonder.

>>75459097
>>75458827
>>75459023
Also watch your sodium intake, It's easy to overdo it when on a diet you alot of salt to your food when cooking, it leads to retaining fluids and you stall easier. I've made a conscious effort of salting my cooking very very little. I use pepper/cayenne pepper/herbs to help with flavours more.

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>>75458827
I lost weight and kept it off for years while being completely sedentary.

If you need to exercise to try and undo your bad diet you will fail, guaranteed.

>>75459218
Unhelpful nonsense.
You eat well to undo the harm of a bad diet, and you move well to undo the harm of a sedentary lifestyle.

>>75458301
So why not eat 1000 and then jump back up to your maintenance for your desired weight? These days when I eat maintenance I feel a bit stuffed, like I indulged a lot that day.

>>75459260
based

>>75458395
Too much of anything is bad. Eat 100% protein and you'll fuck your kidneys and live with fatigue, all fat and you can't heal and you'll live with fatigue, all sugar and you'll be diabetic very quickly, even if you're within calories. Not the tard but, HIGH SUGAR is obviously really awful for your body just like high protein. Without sugar you get muscle wasting, and ketoacidosis. Whaaaaat you have to live in a balance?

>>75458395
based, however its important to note theres a difference if youre from EU or NA. American bread is so loaded with shit compared to the average EU bread.

>>75458578
Oki is currently the most obese prefecture because of marines

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>>75459260
Obesity is not caused by being sedentary.

Obesity is caused by carbohydrate.

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>>75459041
Yeah kind of. I just pick a meal then find a reliable recipe if I don't have one

>had bloodwork done
>Uric Acid and Triglycerides are high
>My doctor and nutritionists puts me on a Fish and Seafood only diet
>Lost 5 kilos in 2 weeks

Man WTF? no one told me fish was magical

>>75459343
No, it's caused by BOTH. It's also caused by sugars and fats.

>>75458628
so you admit you gained it back and are now fat?
so no you should not be giving advice

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Fatty Contest
Fatverick
219.2lbs

onwards and upwards.

>>75459354
>high uric acid
>seafood diet

boy oh boy, i wouldn't want to be your toe joint

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>>75459382
>>75459382
>>75459382
>>75459382

Fatty contest working, based. What week of the leg are we at? That feel when ill never win a leg unless I get mega fat again

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Started doing exercise at 286lb. Dropped down to 264lb within the first two months. Began to aim for maintenance. Slowly came back up to 280lb. 11 months of exercise and only 6lb down. The body composition changes have been wild. I am 6'2", but I still don't need to be 280lb. 1,300lb+ total on the big three though.

>>75459352
splendid! thanks!

>>75459391
you need to get back on a deficit

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>>75459358
No, it's just carbs. The exercise hoax was created to trick goyim into thinking that fat people are lazy instead of just being sugar consumers.

>>75459384
I'm taking meds as well, diet is mostly fucking grilled trout

>>75459391
>began maintenance at 6'2 264
wtf why. get your ass down to 180 where you belong

>>75459417
No worries

>>75455513
Having nothing but butter is Keto but obviously you would gain weight having butter smoothies all day.
Keto and CICO are not incompatible.
>Bragging about being sedentary
>Right wing
pick one