>>75459382
beat me to it, appreciate the nuns and ducks though

Nice work. Almost summer, walking around, feeling leaner, nothing better

Going shopping tomorrow for some new gym tees. Finally time to downsize. Actually excited for this. Hopefully good weigh in tomorrow for extra confidence boost

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Don't fall for CICO lies.

My bandmate keeps posting old content of us like it's new from when I was 100+ lbs heavier smdh

>>75457596
I don’t know if I would call it a lean bulk necessarily, but its moderate and as clean as I can make it. Current goal is 190 lbs lean mass at 10-15% body fat, which would be total weight of 211-223 lbs. So I’ve got another ~13 lbs of lean mass to add. Should be doable in another six months or so, I think.
Actually stalled the last month or two around 205-207 lbs. Was eating around 2,800 cal/day. This week I started aiming more for around 3,100/day and I’ll see what happens. Macros are 225g protein, 60-75g fat and the rest carbs, which would work out to around 380-415g to hit 3,100/day.
>might have advice for
Missing a lot of info, but it sounds like you may be doing too much. Early on you can gain lean mass with just 2-3 days in the gym. Intermediate 3-4 days. Make sure you are getting 1-2 full days of rest per week.
Also if you have been in a deficit non-stop for more than 12 weeks, you might try taking a break. Eat at maintenance for 1-2 weeks, then go back into a deficit after that.

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I'm the guy who posted about being stuck in the 164-166lb limbo a week ago. Took my diet more seriously this past week, started really recording what I was eating as accurately as possible. Weighed myself today and I'm exactly at 162lbs. I'm so close to being free from the 160s, finally.

>>75459572
What are you eating?

>>75459578
Mostly chicken breast, rice, potatoes, and greens. Also had a sandwich, stew, and soup on some nights.

i could understand cico as an oversimplification, but is ultimately the truth in one way or another (the only actionable thing you can do is eat less, move more, and this will work for any leaving creature on earth)

but why are there people that want to actually ignore it completely now?

>>75459696
CICO is the opposite of true. It's false.

>>75459506
Maybe the music was better.

>>75459865
suppose you literally don't eat
do you get fatter?

>>75459696
it's not so much "people" than rather just a schizo or two whoare persistently pretending they have absolute easy answers.
Almost all dieting concepts have asterisks and caveats, and honest people are able to admit that readily. For example, cutting all saturated fat as a first approximation is beneficial for most, but in reality not all forms of saturated fat are equally bad, and a carefully curated diet could in fact benefit from some of them.
It's easy to weed out the bullshit by ignoring weirdos that make absolute claims.

>>75459884
Suppose you eat a hypercaloric diet. Do you gain bodyfat?

HINT: If youre eating excess protein the answer is no. Therefore CICO is false.

>>75459568
Yeah, yeah I've probably been going a bit too hard. The line between pushing yourself a good amount and too much just seems to be so thin and easy to cross. I feel like if I'm not working hard every day I'm falling behind. If I'm not on my heavy restriction then I feel like im gaining weight

>>75459696
Anyone who has made it does not spend all day arguing about this on an anonymous forum. Ignore them and they'll go someplace else for attention.

>>75459973
>The line between pushing yourself a good amount and too much just seems to be so thin and easy to cross.
Yeah, it's thin. But the window of pushing a good amount, between not enough and too much, is relatively wide. If you are just fully wiped out then back off a little bit, give it a week, and see how you feel.
>I feel like if I'm not working hard every day I'm falling behind. If I'm not on my heavy restriction then I feel like im gaining weight
It's all in your head. It's cliche as fuck, but remember its a marathon and not a sprint. You don't do yourself any favors by burning out and falling off the wagon. It takes time to undo years of bad habits, but if you find a level that you can sustain long-term you'll get there.

>>75460057
Thanks big guy. I skipped my rin today because yesterday I woke up feeling like i was made of concrete, like I just couldn't do anything. My Wednesday run i felt like I was running through water and my eyes were making tears. I'm finally so so close, I'm actually at my original goal weight, I just have probably 15lbs more to go until I'm done losing fat. Thanksgiving is coming up. I'm on the family roster to make pumpkin bread loaves with hazelnuts, walnuts, and sugar+pumpkin spice swirls, and a large cookie cake. Fat bitch knows how to cook right? Fat bitch just has to be very careful about not eating too much while being polite and not looking like a psycho refusing holiday food. How do you handle holidays? It was so much easier enlisted because I saw no family and had no holiday food.

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FatToFit, Day 16

Current Weight: 202.8
Calories Eaten: 1,460 (stew, protein shake, hershey's, frozen pizza)
Protein Eaten: 86g
Exercise Today: 4x25 push ups, 62 sit ups in 2min, 5 chin ups, 6mi run in 1:13:01

Starting Weight: 211.8lbs
Height: 5'10"
Goal: <15% bodyfat

Felt like eating some garbage today so I saved up my calories for frozen pizza. It was worth the calories but I won't do this often.
Tomorrow I will run 3mi as fast as I can, test how many sit ups I can do in 2min, shoot for 5 chin ups again, and do 4x25 push ups through the day
Previous: >>75455818

>>75460251
Good work, bro. You will be more likely to reach your goal if you lower your carbs. Keep it up.

>>75460268
Thanks Anon, the carb demon is strong

>>75459663
>chicken breast
I bought some chicken breast today that I am going to try and cook in the slowcooker. Hopefully a couple of lbs of shredded moist chicken will sort out my proteins for the next few days.

>>75460251
Doing good man, not far off sub 200. Can tell your stomach starting to pull in at the top. Keep doing what your doing, no need to change until it stops working.

>>75460293
Thanks bro, I can't wait until I get under 200lbs again. I told myself I would never get above 200lbs so I was ashamed when I found out that I was

>make a simple chili type thing with 1 pack of ground meat, some canned meat, frozen veg, tomatos, just random shit i had lying around
>count it up
>fucking 2500 calories
can't believe i would have casually eaten the entire goddamn pot back in the day

>>75460174
I just got into baking this spring actually, been enjoying it. Have made baklava, a few pies, pumpkin bread and muffins, maple walnut tassies, couple types of cheesecakes, apple turnovers, etc. Typically bake something, usually a new recipe, once a week. I don't eat the vast majority of it though. I have one piece of whatever I make and the rest I give away to neighbors and family—try to spread out the damage between them so I don't make them all fatter. One of my neighbor's kids apparently get excited every time they see me walking up to the door lol.
>how do you handle holidays?
Even when I was losing weight, I didn't worry about what I ate on holidays. The main thing is to not turn Thanksgiving day into Thanksgiving week. But that one day isn't going to ruin everything, so I don't worry about diet and just eat whatever I feel like and enjoy company of friends/family. Refusing to even partake or skipping time with friends/family on holidays just because of a diet seems way too autistic to me. And you don't have to go insane—not like you have to eat until you make yourself sick. Just try to eat in (relative for the holidays) moderation and don't worry too much about it past that. The next day you get back to normal, no harm no foul.

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YOU. DON'T. NEED. CARBS.

>>75460467
wtf

>>75459280
>So why not eat 1000
Because it would feel like SHIT and I will not stick to it, that's why.
~3 years ago I ate around 1500 kcal/day. I managed to stick to it for about 4 months, and lost like 15 kg, before simply dropping the whole thing.
The idea that you should just "willpower" your weight loss is stupid.
Not only does it ultimately fail to work for about 95% people, even when it does, it gives them the wrong impression that the way they are eating is not a big deal as they can just "fix it" when necessary which, in turn, is incorrect for 99.9% of people.

Dieting is a flawed temporary solution for a long-term fundamental problem.
>These days when I eat maintenance I feel a bit stuffed, like I indulged a lot that day.
"Feeling stuffed" is incredibly short-term. I went through it numerous times.
You can feel stuffed on your very first IF attempt and think it's magic.
But it does very little to actually make you eat less throughout the day long-term.
Not to mention, people adapt to "feeling stuffed" as well - that's why the vast majority of stomach reduction patients eventually start to gain weight again despite feeling quite literally "stuffed" their every single meal.

>>75460467
Will fruits kill me?

>>75460568
Whole fruits are wholesome. One per meal.
Dried fruits are sus AF.
Fruit juice will in fact kill you. Horribly.
Oh, and a cup of berries a day keeps the reaper at bay.

This girl complimented my looks out of nowhere.The process must actually be working.

Fatty Contest
ItsStuckInMyFupa
240.0lbs

What does "Eucharist" literally mean? >Answer:
Thanksgiving.

So, for Roman Catholics, they are eating something in order to be saved that is intended (as declared by its very NAME) to be eaten in THANKS for salvation. That means Roman Catholicism heretically and irrationally distorts the EFFECT of something as being its CAUSE, as evidenced by what the word Eucharist means (and how it's defined in the Bible: as a thankful REMEMBERANCE of Christ's ONE sacrifice on the cross, for us that have already been saved by trusting in that sacrifice of His).

With this bastardization of communion, they are doing the exact opposite of what St. Peter preached in Acts 10:47 (ie, baptizing to recognize salvation ALREADY received).

so if i eat my tdee(2300 calories) and then workout to burn 500 calories is this what you mean by a deficit or what how would you even know how many calories you burnt without a watch

Fatty Contest
Garfield
157.4kg
189cm

>>75460467
Imagine cutting out carbs and looking like that turtle, lol

>>75459382
Fatty Contest
StinkyGoblina
62.5

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>>75461052
you forgot your unit

>>75461058
is goblin fucking a viable weight loss method

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>>75461065
If it creates a caloric deficit.

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How am I maintaining at an average of 800cal a day... Is my metabolism irreversibly fucked by diets in the past?

On Ozempic, so I don't feel hungry, I'm only eating to get my 50g of daily protein. Maybe I should just /fast/? What to do fellow obeasts?

>>75461069
are empty balls a caloric deficit

>>75461058
Fatty Contest
StinkyGoblina
62.5kg

I thought unit automatically carry over from previous weeks?

>>75461070
how long have you been plateauing?
take some laxatives.

>>75461074
What sort would you recommend? I hate most (senna, biscodyl) because they give me insane stomach cramps. I usually go more milk when I need to because I'm laxatose intolerant but I've been eating a lot of high protein low fat yogurts so I'm full of good bacteria so milk won't work rn.

>>75461070
>800cals
>50g of protein
Unironically eat more

>>75461074
2 weeks plateau btw

>>75461083
if you don't want stomach cramps, just wait until you shit naturally. Eat more sporadically throughout the day. Eat foods that would cause you to shit, like grapes or something.

>>75461070
Try a 72h fast, its probably just retained water.

Fatty Contest
TheObeseBrit
275.8lbs

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>Tfw ate an entire plate of quiche again

up this week; a wedding and my birthday
i will not lose weight.

>>75461127
Pay for your sins anon

>>75461139
i will consume 1 kg bag of chocolate pepernoten and a bucket full of KFC chicken with mayo and then kill myself or just eat nothing

>>75461089
What causes shuts besides grapes?

>>75461070
If you do a heavy cut like that 50g protein is way too little.
Get at least 180-200g protein in.

>>75461197
I have no idea how to pack in that much protein with that caloric limit, unless you exclusively just consume 800kcals of protein powder.

>>75461221
I did order some whey. Plan is to add it to skimmed milk which will help me shit. The lactose induced diarrhea should also help me drink more water.

>>75461070
Right, so what you're describing is generally the result of long term and consistent calorie reduction, it's a reason why calorie counting has a very high rate of weight regain over years as metabolism drops heavily to try to compensate for your lack of intake. I've never heard of it being as low as 800cal's which is very strange, perhaps ozempic is contributing. It generally takes a few years to recover it completely. Fasting is to my knowledge the method to circumvent this from happening but I don't know if it can fix it, though if you're maintaining at 800 cals you may as well fast and hope for the best

>>75461073
it does, just check the fatty contest page

>>75461232
I think years of yo-yo dieting has fucked me up. It gets harder and harder to lose the weight each time... Age doesn't help either.

I'm gonna try and walk 6 hours tomorrow.

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haha... 2500 calories today.. whoopsies
i cant make any excuses on this one

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>>75461197
>Get at least 180-200g protein in.
He is trying to lose weight, not taking steroids and prepare for a competition
>>75461070
>Is my metabolism irreversibly fucked by diets in the past?
Pretty sure you would notice some serious problems with the rest of your body if your metabolism would be fucked
>I'm only eating to get my 50g of daily protein
50-70g of protein is recommended for people to generally function and live their normal lives, if you wanna build muscle or strength, you would have to eat a lot more

>>75459382
Fatty Contest
FatBaldGerman
80.3kg
not forgetting this time, close to my all time lowest weight as an adult, feels weird to be about to drop below the magical 80kg mark again
dopamine rush from scale going down too strong to be depressed about getting slightly weaker in almost all my lifts but it is what it is

>>75461259
Are you sure your scale isn't broken or something? well regardless, if you're already taking ozempic it shouldn't be too difficult to start fasting. My advice would be to leverage ozempic to get used to fasting, build it up then drop the ozempic. Also consider getting your hormones checked as something fucky may be going on there

Fatty Contest
Mage
225.6lbs

Miku and that Kate Moss quote have been tremendous for my morale unironically. WAGMI

>>75461288
Either way having a higher protein intake on a steep deficit is beneficial, if you are roiding or natural on roids its better I have to agree. You could gain muscle even.

>>75461221
Look up PSMF and food on that diet.
I usually eat a lot of low fat greek yoghurt, mix in 40-50g whey and rest is lean beef/chicken.
I am usually around 180-200g protein at 800-1000kcals.
Drastic fat loss with minimal muscle loss in that case.

Fatty Contest
BlindOptimism
211.4lbs

>>75459382
yesterday was my fifth injection of semaglutide, increasing from 0,25 to 0,5 for the first time
it has worked quite well for losing weight, I've lost about 5 kilograms since I began taking it, without doing anything special, no extra exercise nor counting calories
the only side effect is that I feel nauseous and queasy after eating, mostly because I can't barely eat a third of what I used to eat before, and a normal course meal feels far too much

>>75461455
i lost 3 kgs and it’s just my first week kek

>>75461519
All water weight

Fatty Contest
mammajamma
88.7kg

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>>75460981
Imagine eating carbs and being fat.

>>75461259
Eating carbs and restricting calories has harmed you.

You can fix the problem by quitting carbs.

>>75461519
I guess I could have lost more weight if I went to the gym, but I wanted to "test" any changes during the first doses so I knew exactly how it could affect my body

Fatty Contest
timetolockin
199.69

>>75461549
You finally locked in

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Losing weight sucks ass. Here I am snacking on carrots and cucumbers to get the fiber in, which makes weight loss easy mode (won't be hungry or at least wont eat as much even on relapse) and all I can think of while watching telly is how much more enjoyable it would be snacking on pizza, chips, nuggies, chorizo, burger, fries and cheese bisquits instead.

I deviced a desperate strategy to prevent myself from hopping in car to get yummies: drinking. Sipping Jack as I write this. I'm fat not stupid and would need hella cravings to drunk drive for some chips.

>>75461555
>The solution to not eating is to drink calorie filled booze
lmao

>>75461555
Fiber doesn't help with weight loss.

>>75461558
Calories way less than if I relapsed and did shop + McD rounds

>>75461559
You're one of those carnivore shills, marketing dismissed (post body)

>>75461575
>Calories way less than if I relapsed and did shop + McD rounds
But it is still calories you turbo brainlet, how much Jack are you gonna drink?

>>75461582
As much as necessary. This far rate is 1 bottle per 5 days. Good thing is I can't hold booze well and drink it neat so I'm not slurping it like pepsi. I've genuinely wondered a long time how alcs do it, if I even try to take big gulp I throw up.

>>75461555
>fiber
NGMI

>>75461587
>NOOO I CAN'T STOP EATING FOOD, BETTER BECOME AN ALCOHOLIC INSTEAD
lmao

>>75461591
You carnivore shills should kys

>>75461609
t. Schizo

>>75461608
Yea, said it was a desperate strategy. I'll do it as long as I get severe cravings. I'm not getting back to BigMac plus meal, 2 pizzas and 24 nuggets a day. I'd rather alcoholic. A risk I'm willing to take.

>>75461613
Nobody else believes eating low-calorie fiber-rich foods is a bad thing. kys

>>75461631
Fiber is a bad thing on its own, yes.
It is literally indigestible. You do not need fiber because your body can't do anything with it and your GI tract will actually function better without it. Fiber causes bloating and promotes the growth of gut bacteria which digest fiber, which doesn't help you because you're not a ruminant animal, and displaces gut bacteria which will actually help you digest foods that you get nutrients from. And the nutrients in plants are often the wrong form which your body can't use, sucks at converting to a useable form, or they are locked away in the indigestible fiber where you can't access it because you're not a cow.

Hence, you are NGMI, fatty.

>>75461636
>It is literally indigestible
>promotes the growth of gut bacteria which digest fiber
So which is it schizo

>>75461643
>n-no u are a schizo
Copying my statements now like the cattle you are ;)
Go eat your indigestible fiber, fatty.

>>75461636
That it's indisgestible is the point of it. Adds bulk but not calories. Easy mode weight loss. Retard.

>>75461648
You made the contradiction in your post idiot. So which is it?

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>>75461631
Fiber is harmful.

The type of people who eat fiber are the type of people who get mRNA injections. Gullible goys.

>>75461652
>let me lose weight and destroy my gut and microbiome
Literally eating dirt at this point jaja

>You made the contradiction in your post idiot. So which is it?
>leaving out everything after the quote
Not really clever, are you?

>Fiber causes bloating and promotes the growth of gut bacteria which digest fiber, which doesn't help you because you're not a ruminant animal, and displaces gut bacteria which will actually help you digest foods that you get nutrients from. And the nutrients in plants are often the wrong form which your body can't use, sucks at converting to a useable form, or they are locked away in the indigestible fiber where you can't access it because you're not a cow.

>>75461653
>>75461657

>>75461657
>>75461655
All you do is lie. kys

>>75461662
Not an argument, cope harder, cattlegoy.

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>>75461652
>Easy mode weight loss.
Low-carb is easy mode weight loss.

Eating fiber is what people who trust the government do. It's from the same people who say to eat low-fat, plant-based, etc.

>>75461643
>>75461652
>>75461653
>>75461662
>Reduced plasma half-life of radio-labelled 25-hydroxyvitamin D3 in subjects receiving a high-fibre diet
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6299329/

Vitamin D3 deficiency = Testosterone deficiency.
Fiberguys on suicide watch.

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When and why did this general get taken over by two warring factions?

>>75461664
>>75461663
post body, let's see how lean you are then, you shills shit up every /fat/ with your lies yet never do that

>>75461669
Always has been

>>75461669
Don't blame me, all I did was post this >>75461555
to get some support and carnivore shills came as expected to peddle their lies, jannies pls

>>75461681
You don't understand the gist of what they have been telling you, did you?
If you ate actually satiating food, you wouldn't need to destroy your gut with excess fiber.
They didn't argue in bad faith.
Maybe you should step back and listen to people who know how to cure your cravings for once?

>>75461697
Just shut the fuck up, also kys, everything you say is a lie and you are permanently fat

>>75461702
Hahahahah yeah you will never learn, fatty.
Go drink your poison, eat your fiber and have all these cravings for trash.
NGMI

>>75461706
post body fattie

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>>75461669
The war ended many years ago.

Where do people even find the energy to lift? 3 months in and I'm dead. My lifts didn't get better, they didn't even stay the same, they got worse

>>75461726
Im NEET,on TRT and go Sauna after gym and relax and sleep whenever I want.
Maybe that's somethign to try.

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>>75460389
Got any ideas for hazelnuts? I have a shit ton to use up and I'm pretty certain I'll have leftovers after the pumpkin loaves. I highly recommend brioche experimentation, a good brioche is a [cinnamon+cream cheese, blueberry+lemon, cherry+cream cheese, etc] roll, French toast, bread pudding, if you want a fluffy slightly sweet and buttery bread in a recipe you want a good brioche. I've been watching my SIL cooking and I'm boring the line on gentle guidance and ( ▽д▽)good gravy what do you mean?! She insists for example she likes using a fork over a whisk and thinks straining clumps from crepe batter is fine. Love you just lost half your dry ingredients.
A few weeks ago there was a party here and it was potluck style, everyone handmade a food item with a lit of love and care and everyone was encouraged to try everything. So I did. It was great, I discovered it actually do like balsamic vinegar, and i also ate almost DOUBLE my caloric absolute ceiling. 2.5x what I try to eat daily. Still, I lost weight for the week. And I was very polite. I wasn't like the hogs that only got dessert items and spent the whole party eating. In the past it probably would've gotten seconds of everything just because I'm very susceptible to food fomo and if it's good I want more. I make recipes until I perfect them. But now like you I spread it around so I'm not just fattening others, I take a portion to try.
I don't think at all that desserts should be sugar free or low fat etc, the entire point is to be sweet and fatty. It just has to be very very moderated.

I can give up soda.
I can give up alcohol.
I can give up junk food.
But I can't give up white rice.

>>75461801
Rice is the goat

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>someone brought back costco pumpkin pie
>cool I'll have a slice with my coffee for breakfast
>this is like, what, 300-400 calories?
>it's actually 600
>I used to eat half of an entire pie by myself
No wonder I was so fat

>>75460467
Bro is so fucking ugly and frumpy I'm wondering if he's planning on kidnapping chipmunks later

>>75460919
Even the watches will be wrong most of the time. I say most of the time, because I'm sure a broken clock is right twice a day. To properly count the amount of calories that you burn. There's so much information that's needed from your height, your weight, your actual body composition, your heart rate, your respiration rate, the intensity that you're actually doing it, etc etc.
Do not even count your calories burned.

>>75461083
I just drink coffee. Hot black coffee.

>>75461070
You're just lying then, or you ARE losing g weight just not as fast as you'd like probably because you're a shrimp, or you ARE losing weight but your ozempig issue means your guts are sluggish and you're withholding a lot of water AND shit. Start keeping a shit log (hehe) of the day's, times, and quality shits you take. Add in natural laxatives like apples pears oranges coffee etc.
You are not making fat out of thin air. You are not some deep ocean creature that just slows it's heart rate and respiration rate to slow its caloric burn. Even BEARS wake up skinny in the spring and they fast for months with a slow metabolism.

Weight loss is such a random thing, you can eat the exact same meals and lose 1lb one week and then 4lbs the next week. Fucking body.

>>75461528
>face is still fat
>still has child molester face

>>75460919
TDEE would include physical activity. BMR is how much you burn while sedentary. I know people who can go jog for hours and eat over 3000kcal while still losing weight, but like the other anon said it's hard to judge if you're not experienced. It's also easy to use exercise as an excuse to overeat.

I ate the apple, bros.
Between the soda, pizza, cookies, and milk, I found the place in my daily intake for the apple.
I am become Health the pooper of Fiber.

>>75461928
ngmi

>>75461928
>Cookies
>health

>>75461801
Why would you?

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>>75461801
You can get rid of rice.

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>>75461873
It's not random. Body composition is predictably a result of hormones.

To optimize your hormones, quit carbs.

>>75461814
The portioning is ridiculous too. I got a sweet potato pie a few months ago because it was on clearance because I like sweet potatoes because I like pie. But I looked at the calories on it, absolutely crazy bananas, then it said four hundred and fifty, and I was wondering how they could possibly cram that much into a slice. So then I started reading it closer to see just how big it thought I would want a slice. Turns out, it meant one quarter of the entire pie. So I had to do a ridiculous amount of math for something as simple as finding the amount of calories for a normal human serving.

>>75461976
Shut up faggot

5'10 , 2012-2011ibs. Just ate fast food. Doing body weight and Deadlifting. I'm stuck at 110kg afraid of lifting more since I have terrible form. I didnt realise how tough body weight squats were until I hit 50 in a row yesterday. I hate being out of shape. Everything sucks. Running sucks, walking sucks, lifting sucks, sleeping sucks.

I'll reach my weight goal by January, my main gripe is building strength.

>>75461992
>2012-2011ibs

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>>75461979
Calorie is a measurement. It doesn't tell us anything about how fattening a food is.

You have been thoroughly brainwashed by sugar industry advertising.

>>75461995
I lost a pound by fasting.

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I'm just gonna say it. I don't really care if I have loose skin. If all goes well on my journey, then I'll get lean with enough muscle mass to eat it up over a few years, if my life is actually going well enough then I'll just be able to have it surgically removed as a shortcut.
But I know being as fat as I was for as long as I was, it was just meant to happen no matter how slow I lost the weight. So why would I sit around and take four years to lose 70lbs when I could just do it in a year and a half? It just sounds like a lot of crab noise to me.
>hurrrr you're uhhh losing weight too fast
>it's not good for you to get healthy that fast
>you need to eat more junk
>you need to stay fat a bit longer
>you'll go bald if you lose weight fast
>you'll get a hollow face if you lose weight too fast
>you'll get loose skin if you lose weight too fast
>your metabolism will like, die if you lose weight too fast
Fat fucking crabs. My face is still fat, my body is better than ever, and again I was doomed to have loose skin and I knew that as soon as i started losing fat and my gut just started deflating instead of shrinking. Who cares? It's a sign i put in the hard work. I did it.

>>75461997
The people from the 50s drank more and ate sugary shit and stayed slim. Obesity wasn't a thing in the 50s. The difference is culture people were shamed for being lazy slobs.

>>75462011
No one asked crab schizo

Heres some motivation for you fatfags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVzS9TfgmV8&list=PLMADX3Q7aoz39qoYRHKkJawarj6IT6f4C&index=1&t=4s

>>75461742
>hazelnuts
I've never made anything with them before. I get a lot of recipes from sallysbakingaddiction.com, might be something there.
>balsamic vinegar
I love that shit. I use a light balsamic vinaigrette salad dressing every day. 15 cal for 30 ml (which is more than enough, even for the big bowls I eat), and it uses olive oil instead of something like canola.
>ate almost double
Yeah I probably did that on most holidays. Just indulging on the one day never slowed down progress an appreciable amount—not like there are a ton of holidays each year. Would be harder now since I'm trying to eat 3,100/day. Eating over 6,000 would be difficult, even for me.

I ate the slop

>>75462020
There are people in this very thread right now, that insist you should lose weight as slowly as possible.

Fatty Contest
Raymo
220.4 lbs

>use machines for 4 months
>book session with PT
>he tries to get me benching
>can't even lift the empty bar
what is the best suicide method

>>75462085
lmao

>>75462037
Sally is the fucking goat. I use a lot of her recipes also, the big exception is when i'm looking for something specialty, and I need a specialty cook/baker. My go-to dressing was always thousand island because I hate ranch and I just don't like a lot of the straight oil dressings. I've been branching out. I'll eat at maintenance again tomorrow, although I've been majority eating protein so hopefully that will aid recovery. Go back to my low restriction to negate the approaching holiday. I know here it IS kind of a week event. And the turkey will almost veetainly be overcooked, because if the meat isn't white it's raw to my folks. Even red meat is expected to be well done :^(

>>75462085
Anon did you work on your chest at all?

>>75461070
magnesium citrate is good if you are trying to shit

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>>75462085
Get those little girly dumbbells and go do some dumbbells presses

>>75462011
Because losing/maintaining weight should be very casual and habitual. You have to do it for the rest of your life. What happens when you reach your goal and stop being motivated by 'signs of hard work'? Instead of hard work, it's better to just accept that you can never stuff yourself until you're full, never be sedentary, never snack all day, or do whatever it is that led you to being a fat slob. 4 years is absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things.

>>75459382
thread theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aromts0OiHs

Fatty Contest
FatToFit
202.2lbs

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>>75461555
>I will lose weight by... drinking calories!
ngmi

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>mfw I've lost 7lbs in 2 weeks because I used to weigh myself in the evenings and today did it in the morming

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>>75461555
>telly
>biscuits
Stop eating and drinking so much you fat bong bastard. Cromwell would be ashamed of you.

>need to confess
>no priest in thread
catholicism ngmi

>>75462379
juicing your weigh in by weighing yourself fasted and dehydrated only works once or twice. then you have stall as you catch up to your real weight.

>>75462393
I know, I'll plateau soon. It was my third overall weigh in and I'm now sticking to the morning, it was just a nice number to see.

>>75462092
Yep, I've used her stuff for everything except baklava and chocolate pecan pie. She has the latter, but I use my grandma's recipe instead.
>it is kind of a week event
You'll just have to try to be selective and refrain from eating too much on the days around thanksgiving. And plan your own meals to account for what's going on.
>even red meat is expected to be well done
Well that's just a crime. Also the key (or one of them at least) to juicy turkey is soaking it in a brine, minimum 1 hour per lb, full 24 hours is better.

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>third week of intermittent fasting and watching calories
>just ate a delicious 1100 calorie dinner
>absolutely stuffed
>still at a calorie deficit of 500
I think I may have found what works for me.

>>75461555
i get the feel. shoveling shitty food/alcohol into my mouth while watching tv was my favorite hobby. i've replaced it with sipping decaf coffee or tea and mindlessly scrolling through shit on here or my phone while watching tv. you just have to break the habit and establish a new one anon. it's hard but it does get easier.

>>75461267
good luck anon, let us know how it goes.

Scale go down.
15 lbs until healthy bmi zone. Trying to get there on Christmas Eve. OMAD and daily exercise (I'm on a 45 day workout streak)
lets do it anons!

>>75462431
based, keep it up

I started by using the calculator in the OP to find out my TDEE doing a -1000kcal deficit off my TDEE but wasn't losing any weight after three weeks. Anons in these threads said I was actually eating maintenance so I cut even harder, all the way down to just 1000kcals a day, and for the first few weeks the weight was melting off, but now it starting to plateau again, two weeks without any change, feels bad. Think I'm just going to fast and see if that jump starts me again.

>>75462418
that's great anon. feels amazing when you crack the code and the weight loss becomes effortless. for me it was simply upping my protein intake throughout the day (discovering greek yogurt was key) and cutting alcohol. everything else just magically fell into place.

>>75462431
nice one anon. jealous of that 45 day workout streak. how did you get/stay motivated?

started the year at 200lb with a drinking problem. will end the year around 165lb and watermaxxing.
thanks /fat/.

Fatty Contest
Nevardo
226.4lbs

>>75462513
You will end next year as a 240lb alcoholic smoker

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>>75462534
i tried to be authentically thankful and you're just being a big ol' meanie.
i'm gonna make it. i have something to live for (my family). hope you can do the same.

>>75462534
death to crab-bucket

>>75462406
I brine and MOLEST that bird with my own herb butter, stuff it like a slut with a lemon half, halved garlic clover, have onion, half granny Smith apple. Giblet gravy. Bone brotu instead of water for the potatoes to boil in, slowly boileduntil they melt with a spatula. But thats nkt my department here and very show-stealing. The burgers here are... sandpaper. No pink means it's safe right? Maybe, but inedible.

>>75462545
Christmas is coming, you will fall off the rinking and diet wagon and never get back on. Then you'll pick up smoking as a way to satiate hunger but it won't work.
I CURSE THEE

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>>75462555
>channeling a curse
>those digits
Watch out anon

>>75462457
>how did you get/stay motivated?
Number one is working out at home with my personal equipment. I don't think I could keep a streak if I had to drive to the gym everyday. The only time I ever went on a streak before was after a breakup.
Number two that helped me is making tests for different exercises. Accomplishing them boosted my self esteem and made me want to keep exercising more. I like to google what the average person can do - one of my first goals was to do a pullup for example.
Third tip is to have an accountability buddy. Someone to share your progress with and hold accountable. These threads are great for that

>>75462555
Bitchin'... I'm actually trying g hard to abstained from smoking. Someone here said something that's really helped me since is that's that cigarettes don't make me feel better, cigarette make ne feel shitty and having one just relieves the misery that they inflict. Every day is a day that I'm recovering from feeling miserable without them.

I'm feeling actual, excruciatingly painful hunger pangs in my stomach for the first time ever and I have no idea why. I shouldn't be. Had a hugeass fast food meal at 2pm yesterday and then vegetable pasta at 9pm. Been drinking water. I've gone 36 hours without eating before and have never felt this.

>>75462579
I wish I had an IRL workout buddy this time. Back when I lost weight, when I was in high shcool circa 2004~2007 it was me and my dad working out together and we kept each other in check trying to outdo one another, he'd lift X so I had to lift Y to beat him, he'd challenge me to do something and then I'd see if he could match it. My dad died back in 2017, I only decided to try to get back into shape in September of this year. I haven't failed to do a workout yet, but I've definitely noticed that lack of drive without someone to surpass or someone to help me push my limits and keep me for slacking. Working out is so much easier when you have a buddy to keep you honest and motivated.

Fatty Contest
KenloBorther
253.0lbs
First full week back on a whole foods DASH style diet and the weight is already just melting off.
For the last 6 weeks I have been trying some ray peat/bioenergetic life adjustments as an experiment. They included
>A thyroid supplement
>massively increasing my carb intake
>allowing for honey and raw cane sugar, including mexican coke (specifically recommended)
>lots of fruit and fruit juices
>increasing calcium (dairy mostly)
>watching phosphorus consumption
>higher pace shorter runs replacing endurance work
>the carrot salad
>daily aspirin
The idea was that given an adjustment time, your body will run better and maybe even begin to lose weight on a higher metabolism.
>pros
Felt great
Huge gains on the track
Solved life long digestive issues
Solved some mental fog
>cons
-Killed sex drive
-Began craving foods with high pufa and sugar content
-ADHD symptoms were going haywire, some of which were in complete remission for over a decade.
-It didn't actually have an effect on my pulse rate or temperature, both are still very low
-blood pressure began to increase
Overall it was worth it for the digestive relief alone. Maybe when I hit 200lbs I'll try again with just honey and fruit because I am clearly a sugar addict and cane sugar is never going to be ok. I'll eat some crow on that one because some anons saw that coming a mile away and rightfully mocked me.

>>75462696
>the weight is already melting off
>up 0.9lb since last weigh in
Bro you are NEVER making it to 200lbs. You havnt lost any weight in literal years.

fatty contest
itsogreguys
131.3kg

>>75462709
See you @ 200.

>>75462696
Why are you bothering with all that shit, just count your calories, create a deficit, stick with it. Its so fucking easy.

>>75462726
You actually might be the most delusional person in this general. Look at your own graph and live in reality for a moment.

>>75462732
He's a lifer, there's no hope for him.

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>been craving a takeout pizza all week
>im eating 1500 calories daily in deficit
>plan to eat 1000 calories for the next 5 days save up the calories
>order a big pizza on the 6th day
>no harm done as i use the calories i saved for the pizza
this is ok right? im not missing anything am i?

>>75462739
Why are you craving goyslop?
Just eat a steak or something.

>>75462696
yeah I'm sure not getting enough coca-cola was the key to your weight problems

>>75462747
>goyslop
its a specific little italian place near me, they arent a chain, they make their own dough fresh, use good quality meats, owned by some italian old dude. your post is a case of terminal online brainrot, not all food is goyslop dude.

FattyContest
HawaiianShirt
278lbs

>>75462732
I should have logged more during the rsy peat thing for sure. I was up at 262 at one point.
My graph is also thrown off by the fact I started it after being on keto for 6mo.
Progress will probably slow a little in january when the baby comes but I dont see why I cant lose another 10lbs next year, same as I did this year.
I'll be 200 before my child's 4th birthday if I keep at it.

>>75462753
Pizza is peasent goyslop, no matter how you make it.

>>75462761
Your goal is 10lbs a year?

anyone got experience with stretching banks to elongate the stomach?
>>75462739
depends how fat you are but prob not worth it

>>75462777
Only at the very least but I would be happy with 40lbs in 4 years.

>>75462198
I just don't see it to be valuable to "eat one less cheeseburger a day" for a year instead of doing that in a month and tackling the soda at the same time, if something cam be tittled down sooner why not grind a but harder?

fattycontest
nimrod
159 lbs

God I hate this patient shit. I've come to terms with extending my plan

>>75462761
how do ogres like that even get to reproduce

>>75459382
fatty contest
mong-f
72.9kg
164cm

>>75462739
Sounds good to me. I miss this old place called Goodfellas in FL, best fucking Italian food i EVER had. Haven't been down that far south in almost 5 years though and I won't be back for probably another year or two.

>>75462830
>164cm
jajajaja

>>75462803
>depends how fat you are but prob not worth it
why would it make any differences? calories in calories out would be the same no? if i had essentially fasted a certain amount of calories over 5 days why wouldnt i be able to use them up? reminder the calories im saving are an addition to me ALREADY being in a deficit.

>>75462824
With my penis

>>75462807
I'm not trying to be that guy that compares his progress to everyone else's and insists that everyone else's progress is dog shit... put 10 pounds in a year
Is just pitiful. Beyond pitiful actually. It really doesn't even matter what your height is.If you're over two hundred and fifty pounds, it should be pretty easy for you to lose fifty pounds in a year. Starting at obese class 2 I dropped 70lbs this year. And that's while having some backslides and having to lose some of that weight over again due to holidays and binging food.

>>75462841
it prob isn't now im just saying when you get further down the line with dieting and aren't that heavy anymore you eventually wont get away with that

>>75462890
>it prob isn't now im just saying when you get further down the line with dieting and aren't that heavy anymore you eventually wont get away with that
oh yeah i know, and i dont plan to do that when im nearer to my target goal. currently i do only cardio daily along with 1k deficit, when im 10kg -15kg away from target weight i will add 4-5x weight lifting.

my hope is when im almost nearly done that i keep lifting frequently to not totally deprive myself from the occasional treat without getting fat again.

>>75462862
On paper I agree with you but in practice that 10lbs was the difference between being able to run and not.
I feel pretty incredible about the progress I have made this year even if its a fraction of what it could have been, plus I still have 6 weeks to go. I bet I will make it at least another 5 lbs by the end of the year.

>>75462902
You haven't made any progress this year though

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>5 years
Kenlo is either a very dedicated larper or an insane person.

>>75462930
Would you buy that stock?

>>75459382
had my physical. doc called me out. despite my drop of 100 pounds in the last 6 months, and all my blood work being in great ranges. he could smell the bs about cutting carbs and doing more carido. bread is just so good.

>>75462963
It is either bread or death anon. Pick.

how do you know when you're making excuses to avoid working out?

>>75462979
Anytime you don't work out

>>75462545
Sending blessings. Don't listen to the bucket crabs.

>>75462085
>>75462185
this, doesn't matter where you start, its about where you end up.

>>75462739
its fine to do but you also have to think if its something you will do once you lost all the weight and are done with the diet
if yes then you are bound to gain all the weight back
a major mistake a lot of people that lose weight do is not create a healthier relationship with food (which is the main cause)

>>75462979
Are you bedridden? If not, you're making excuses. When I catch myself making excuses I just make my workout shorter or with less intensity. It's easier to convince myself to go run for 10 minutes instead of half an hour.

>>75462739
I was watching BeardMeatsFood on YT and he eats massive amounts for challenges while still maintaining a somewhat skinny look. He mentioned that he barely eats for the rest of the week beforehand.

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How we doing fellow /fat/ friends? Another weekend alone for me, how about you?

>>75463030
the reason i got fat in the first place was medication, depression and working at home ever since 2019. a combination of meds making it easier to gain weight, no physical activity and eating to feel better because i was isolated.
>ive stopped the medication
>i walk daily
>i feel ive gained a better understanding of food being just nurishment and the very rare treat
i just have to undo the damage now, im on track to being target weight by august, i had a second though since making my post and i will not do this. i dont wanna slow down my progress at all. when i reach my ideal weight i will make sure i do lifts at least 5 times a week hard enough to be able to burn the occasional treat like going out to eat with friends or a celebration or something.

>>75463050
yeah i seen him too.

thinking back how i gained all this weight since 2019
>ate whenever i was bored or sad
>ate while gaming/working at home
>would drink alot of calories like sodas, coffee with added shit
>would eat anything that looked good without even looking at the calories
i was legit pigging out daily and not realising it.

>slowly gain weight over the course of 4 weeks
>randomly lose 6lbs over the course of 36 hours
>did not change diet or exercise regimen at all but couldn't sleep all night
Wtf just happened?

>>75463084
You died

>>75463084
demons are feeding you while you dream

>>75463064
I was doing good but i think being at a deficit for so long has broken my brain, i just feel depressed these days. Atleast scale go down.......

>>75463084
You emptied your stomach, bowels and dehydrated.

>>75459382
I went to the gym rowed for 30 minutes and then walked for 15 minutes with a 10% incline.
I then went and ate french fries with my meal, i wonder how fucked my a1c is .

>>75463103
>Go gym
>instantly undo all that work with slop fries

>>75463103
>>75463106
he vill eat ze slop and ngmi

>>75463084
you're asleep

Feel like diet soda is bad for water retention. Would this be fair. My weight always goes up on weekend, only thing different really is a couple of litres of diet soda over the course of friday and saturday. Dont drink it during the week. Will have to cut it out next weekend to confirm, just wondered if anyone else had noticed similar effects

>>75463127
>drinks poison
>wonders why it does harm to his body
Yes.

I understand now that it's become too stressful to keep up my diet and exercise plan. It's been over 5 months and I'm at serious risk of burnout, and being so close to my goal date and goal weight but not being able to rely on my body because of things like prolonged plateaus has really contributed to this sense of burnout.

So I'm taking a final stand. Yesterday I loaded up on calories, just absolutely stuffed myself even though I wasn't hungry. And at midnight, my extended fasting began. I have enough electrolyte supplements to get through it without dizziness like last time. I won't eat anything, only drink water and take supplements until I pass my goal. It's 18.5 BMI or bust. I'll remain more hydrated this time to have a more accurate weight, and maybe I'll go down to an 18.2 BMI so that the weight gain when I start eating again evens out and I'm right where I want to be in the aftermath. But I will be done before November is over. See you on the other side.

>>75463103
a1c takes a while to get fucked. And unfucked.
You almost certainly caused your glucose levels to spike for a bit, but unless you were already struggling with insulin resistance, it's unlikely to do much to your a1c. Unless miseating is normal for you.

>>75463103
Make your own fries in the oven or air frier. Carefully calorie counted of course.

just put on a pair of jeans i haven't worn since before lockdown. i was dreading it, because i didn't want to be demotivated, but holy shit they fit. still a long way to gooo

WrapEnjoyer is 300lbs again

>>75463207
No way. What happened?

>>75463217
He enjoyed a few too many wraps.

I just want my man titties to go away :(

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>>75463243
Pretty easy to accomplish actually.

gonna cut like a motherfucker, any lunch ideas, preferably quick?

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>>75463243
>Man tits went away
>I started to grow new man tits in the form of muscle

>>75463338
I grill 8 or so chicken breasts and bring one to work with 2 slices of bread and a slice of cheese
You can eat it cold if you are out of the office but they are better if you sap em
Add an apple and a yogurt cup and thats about all you need
You might not even need the bread or yogurt

Any calorie counting suggestions for hole in the wall places?
Want to get a taco salad, but the fries shell I can't even begin to guesstimate, 400? 200? It's all made in house so it's not like they have a chart I can reference.

>>75463412
Most restaurants cover their food in oil/butter. Add like 200-300 calories to all of your estimates.

>>75463412
Fried shell*
>>75463417
Yeah that's part of it I'm sure the oil is serious business.
My calorie budget today is about a thousand so I'm suspect I'm still in the clear but it's just disappointing

>Ate 400 grams of meat today
>Only 80 grams of protein
Bovine protein is so inefficient compared to chicken

>>75462970
curse sandwiches for tasting so good. and pasta too.

>>75462862
Not either anon but I've lost 10 pounds in the past 5 weeks or so with minimal effort. Basically just stopped drinking.
There's a whole other discussion between what is achievable short term and then keeping that weight off etc. but I agree that 10lbs in a year is a pretty low bar to set for oneself.

Myself I'm aiming to lose another 10 pounds until new years which would leave me with about 50 pounds to lose next year. 52 weeks, 52 pounds. Seems very easily achievable with minimal effort. Basically just continue not drinking alcohol and it should work itself out.

Fatty Contest
StretchMarksman
228lbs
5'8"

It's about damn time I joined this contest.

>>75461555
I guess I'm lucky in some ways, just having gained weight through depressed binge eating and poor portion control. Even when I'm stuffing my face, I'm still eating "healthy". Not healthy in the grand scheme of things, it's unhealthy to be obese of course, but I never developed any kind of habit or liking to fast food, chips, chocolate etc.

It's always so weird hearing these testimonials where people crave cookies or soda or whatever. Couldn't be me. The only one I kinda understand is alcohol, but alcohol is bad in so many ways other than weight gain that it's sort of its own beast.

I guess my point here is that it really is learned behavior. Having never learnt it, I never crave for this junk even if I'm at a 1000 calorie deficit. If it can be learned, it can be unlearned. It's not some universal constant you just have to deal with for the rest of your life.

>>75463532
I'm the same, I could never eat a cookie again and not mind too much. My issue is the binge drinking. If I'm not careful I'll have a couple beers one night which will end up being 6 beers a night for a month. Not good for the belt.

>>75463532
>The only one I kinda understand is alcohol,
It's the same thing honestly as someone who has never had any alcohol his entire life the allure of it always seems foreign to me yet the people who enjoy eating the slop I can both sympathize and resonate with because it's designed to be just as addictive

>>75463553
Well yeah but alcohol has a strong intoxicating effect which is the primary reason it's drunk, so that's why the comparison is a little clunky. No food regardless of how tasty compare to the profound effects of drugs and alcohol. There's the addictive side of it which I suppose is comparable, but no one really gets addicted to alcohol because it tastes good.

>as someone who has never had any alcohol his entire life the allure of it always seems foreign to me
If you tried it, the allure would be pretty instantly evident. Not saying you should, but it's not some great mystery that takes expertiese to decipher. It feels good. It elevates mood. It lowers stress. The long-term effects are a much more complex issue, but the immediate effects are pretty simple.

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Wool socks on, audiobook in the mp3 player, ready to set off on my night walk.

>>75462979
What your mother said:
If you're too sick for school youre too sick for vidya/TV

>>75463127
Hmm. Probably? If you really want to know, then MEASURE all your liquid intake and see if you just drink more soda because it's yummy

How much should I limit carbs to reverse "prediabetes"? My doctor mentioned it in passing like it's no big deal, among all-green bloodwork results, so I didn't look it up until just now to realize it means I already have issues and don't just have some harmless indicators of an issue.

>>75463605
I wear two wool socks per the lindybeige method, thin inner sock, thick outer, both wool. It's amazing and solved all the issues I was having with my feet.
youtube.com/watch?v=3DGtHMZX8gc

Also whatcha listening to? I just finished Rendezvous with Rama, and was looking for an audiobook to pick up.

>>75462696
>Solved life long digestive issues
What was the issue that was resolved by peating?

>>75463647
Just limit your actual sugars including fruit, limit your meal carbs to complex ones and they should be necessary to the meal, like rice or potatoes not a bread roll. Start walking a lot more, replace the carbs and sugars with protein and fat. Remember you don't have to cut ut ALL out just reduce it a lot

>>75463664
want more science fiction? Brigadoor is a single book, more enjoyable if you've played the game, with great voice acting. It's about galactic actors showing up to a locked-down planet and offering the natives bounties to immediately start fucking up the planetary government up in advance of invasion.
Jack Campbell's "Lost Fleet" series starts with a guy woken up out of a 100-year freeze, just in time to A) learn that he's this amazing hero figure now, B) watch his side's entire fleet run into a trap and lose outright, C) take control of the surviving fleet and guide it back home using his lost knowledge of actual tactics.
Christopher G. Nuttall makes tons of slop that mostly ain't bad. Lot of fantasy as well. His series about an empire's collapse into chaos will be soothing to an American listener.
And if you *are* American, John Ringo.

>>75463576
Not him, but I drank alcohol for the first time nearly 2 years ago and I was 28. I had it several times in the following year, including drinking a tall glass of straight whiskey and becoming extremely intoxicated that night. I never liked the taste, I found that it never added to the flavor. I also did not get any sort of joy or fulfillment out of being intoxicated, and did not find it addictive whatsoever. More often than not, I started looking for ways to give away my alcohol. I've had alcohol on maybe two occasions this year, and neither time did I enjoy it.

Food is entirely different. I crave food independently of hunger. When I fast, even once I get past the hunger phase, I can't stop thinking about all the places I want to go eat, or if I want something salty or sweet. I feel like an addict.

>>75463664
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55723020-dopamine-nation
I don't really listen to fiction. I enjoy reading it myself more.

https://youtube.com/shorts/U-8pGqLjWxo?si=rGmd0nv5COURb22E
I saw this and thought of you guys.
>noooo sugar doesn't cause diabetes
>type one which everyone knows if autoimmune from birth isn't caused by sugar!
>type two is uhhh
>well it is more common in fats yes
>but it happens more to certain ethnicities!
>and average weight people get type teo diabetes too!
What does that prove? Fatties eat more sugar. Some people (especially women) like to live off candy and bread. I've seen plenty of girls who eat just bread and potatoes and rice and baked goods, they become pre-diabetic quickly. Certain ethnicities are just much worse for eating only sugar and carbs

>>75463694
Maybe you didn't find it joyful because you did retarded shit like drinking a tall glass of straight whiskey lmao

So, I'm thinking about getting a cardio machine, and rowing machines appear to be the best. Is there any reason why I shouldn't get one?

Fatty Contest
Big Frigate
266.6 lbs

Knees a little fucked, haven't been able to do cardio and can see that reflected in loss rate lowering to ~2lbs a week which is right on track for eating about 1000 below sedentary tdee

>>75463742
cheap ones are garbage
good ones are really expensive and, like all equipment, need maintenance and repairs over time. It's much cheaper to use even better rowing machines at the gym.
price aside they're amazing, very easy on the body and burn calories like crazy. You could burn calories faster with jump rope or sprinting but the rowing machine is a much /fat/ friendlier option.

>>75463647
I reversed prediabetes in 3 months with daily walking and keeping carbs around 30% of macros (in a big deficit)

A1C was right at 5.7 though, it went down to 5.3

>>75463750
Is there anything you'd recommend if you had to buy one? Going to a gym isn't in the cards
for me rn.

>>75463694
I have no idea what kind of life one has to lead to end up 28 having never touched alcohol, but the last thing I would try at that point would be copious amounts of hard liqour. I could probably enjoy a tall glass of straight whiskey, but that's because I've been drinking since I was like 14 and can hold my booze.

That being said only about 10% of the population doesn't drink alcohol, so 90% of people enjoy it to some extent. It's really not that complicated of a drug to understand, and I suspect it's the same autism that would result in someone not drinking for 28 years then starting off with a tall glass of whiskey that leads to struggling to comprehend something every normie and teenager can figure out without much effort.

>>75463767
the Concept2 is the one I always use at the gym. They have a better machine with a giant screen with simulated rowing scenes, but the Concept2 is light, stores away *very* easily (you just lift up the end to make it go vertical), seems pretty robust, and has a decent digital display that you can change around to show power curves per stroke, etc.
So that's what I'd get, about $1500

>>75463647
Doctors can be weird about metabolic syndrome, kinda like part of them is screaming inside but all that comes out loud is "you should probably do something about this if you have time, anon."
I suspect a younger doctor might be more strident about it, but the grizzled ones have usually given up on expecting patients to change their lifestyle on their say-so.
Limiting carb is fine, and should result in your a1c lowering a bit faster, but what's really going to matter in the long run is losing some of your fat mass.

I just made a chicken potato stew that kept me feeling full with a 1000 calorie deficit. This stuff is magical.

Made a progress collage of front and back pictures from July and today, it's not much but I can definitely see it. Crazy, it's actually just a 10lbs difference but everything about me is notably smaller except one feature I've added muscle mass to. Even my titties are just... gone.

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FatToFit, Day 17

Current Weight: 202.2
Calories Eaten: 1,450 (protein shake, stew, burger, yogurt, homemade calzone)
Protein Eaten: 114g
Exercise Today: 4x25 push ups, 54 sit ups in 2min, 4 chin ups, 3mi run in 28:32

Starting Weight: 211.8lbs
Height: 5'10"
Goal: <15% bodyfat

Very happy with today, exercise felt great. Low on the sit ups but I think I'm gonna do those every other day from now on after my next rest day.
Tomorrow I'll run 7mi, do 4x25 push ups, test my sit ups in 2min, and test my max chin ups. Can't wait to get under 200lbs again
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House smells good, got chicken breasts in the slowcooker, hopefully in a couple of hours will have tasty proteins.

>>75464015
Post the progress man

lost 4.5kg in 4 weeks :)
3.5kg to go until normal weight

>>75464063
>sit ups
try squats, leg raises, bridges. There are lots of planks you can do, like swapping between side planks. Sit ups are a dumb and fake exercise: the entire time I was in the military I weak and fat but could still effortlessly bang these things out. There are all kinds of moves from calisthenics that you could try, crazy stuff like human flags, and while those dudes also have many pushup and pullup variations, there's not a single sit up to be found. This exercise is some kind of prank.
Otherwise, gj anon.
if you're running comfortably, try jump rope. Five sets of 20 jumps, which is not completely new but still very beginner tier, registers as sprint on my fitness watch and burns 100kcal in 10min of mostly walking around between sets. It's crazy.

>>75463737
>>75463774
I didn't start with whiskey, that was like 6 months later. I had beers and sours, some more fruity drinks. But I didn't get any sense of fulfillment or joy out of being intoxicated. Some people just aren't as affected by alcohol. I could easily go the rest of my life without ever touching it again, that's how little it improved anything.

Flavor is a completely different experience, and I imagine it is for a lot of people who have gained a lot of weight. I can dream about food, I imagine savory dishes, and often go to /ck/ to look at pictures of food when I'm cutting. It's a sensation like libido where it isn't an actual need but a lingering urge or desire, food porn is an apt description. I never realized until I tried prolonged fasting that this is what an addict felt like.

I just don't know how the fuck I'm supposed to eat 140 g of protein a day.

>>75464373
whey
greek yogurt/skyr
lean meat

one or more of these has to be a daily staple for you. that's how i do it anyway

>>75464373
today's macros: 65g fat, 115 carb, 160 protein, for 1730 kcal
two vegetable shakes, an omelette, four protein bars, some jerky, sardines, two protein shakes
apart from the omelette this is not even me making food. If you make food you can go far with chicken or even lunchmeats. My "protein bars" also aren't that good apart from the Built Puff which have great macros.

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>>75464373
Here's how I do it: I pour 27 grams of protein powders in my morning coffee (19g collagen peptides, 5g creatine, 3g taurine), and I have a bone broth before bed with another 3g of creatine in it. Altogether, 50g of proteins in two warm drinks.
When I was doing two varied meals a day, it was pretty easy to average 50g of proteins per meal (my macro goal is 150g.)
Now that my TDEE has dropped and I'm doing a nutty pudding slop meal a day that only brings in 33g of protein altogether, that leaves me with having to scrounge 75g of protein from a single meal. Easy to do with rotisserie chicken or a steak, trickier with anything more balanced than that.
I've been known to gulp a protein shake to get an easy 30g, which is my last resort cheat code to get to the finish line.

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FatLooser
94.2kg

>>75464373
that's only 23 eggs you fucking pussy

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>>75464497

>>75464417
Is bone broth supposed to taste like burned asshole? I needed a ton of salt to make it palatable, but I think it's also possible that I heated it for too long.

>>75464523
You know, I love the stuff, but every single person I've tried to bring on board thought it tasted like ass.
I tried giving them the very mild classic chicken broth, which literally just tastes like chicken. I've tried the ones that have so many spices it basically drowns the taste, like a turmeric ginger broth. They hated all of it.
So IDK. Obviously there's something wrong with them.

>>75464357
Thank you for that advice, I will probably start doing other ab exercises too. My plan is to do only calisthenics for now and then switch to mostly compound lifts with a barbell once I'm leaner. I'm worried that squats will tire my muscles out and screw up my runs

>>75462653
i miss feeling those ;_;

>>75464380
This could work
>>75464389
>>75464417

Thanks for the ideas

Feels like every Monday is a restart on my weightloss. Its getting tiring but we push on. Im so strict for 5 days but its those last 2 that fuck up everything. Maybe a 2nd job would give me something to do with my weekends rather than boredom eating.

>>75464603
Just stop eating fatty

around hungries never relax

>>75463774
>so 90% of people enjoy it to some extent.
Yet effectively 100% of the population enjoys food to some extent. I'm not trying to say alcohol is not addictive or that it can't manufacture certain body responses, just that food can too.
Much like how alcohol or cigs can send you to an early grave, people have diets that do the exact same thing, and there are entire industries dedicated to making food and processes shit just as addictive and stimulating.

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>BMI 28
>3 weeks later
>BMI 27

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TheObeseBrit
275lbs

Scale go down

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LivingGod
76.7kg

Fatty Contest
dman
95.2kg

cousins birthday yesterday so slightly heavier than last week.

>>75464862
It was my mother's birthday this week and I still ate a deficit of 400 calories even with the cake and the big meal. Control yourself.

Fatty contest
Moonlune
175.8lbs
Finally into 12st 7lbs, just barely, it's been slow progress for months at this point but I'm glad to see it eitherways, was originally hoping to be closer to 170 before December but its definitely looking unlikely unless I wanted to cut below 1500 a day.
At the least it's loss, so hopefully there's nowhere to go but down from here

>>75464874
Thanks for the advice but I've already lost a few dozen kilos (starting weight was 134kg). I'm at a point where I can cheat once in a while and still keep going.

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>>75464924
>95.2kg
>I can cheat once in a while

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>>75464926
not going to argue, I'm happy with my progress

>>75464939
Whatever you say chubbo

>>75464965
>>75464965
>>75464965
new thread

How long will I have to dry fast (with cardio) to lose 30 lbs?

>>75464085
My bottom is too round for posting

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>>75464523
>>75464531
I have no idea what you're talking about. Either of you. Every bone broth I've ever made just tasted like the animal i used. Beef or chicken. Sometimes for extra strength i combine beef and chicken.
>buy cheap riblets and cut off the meat
>buy chicksn feet, inspect each one abd cut any imperfections off
>buy beef marrow bones
>roast all bones until browned
>save the oil and fat that's melted off
>use some in my stock pot to start sautéeing my several garlic cloves, ginger cut into 1" cubes, and quartered onion
>toss in my herbs (thyme, rosemary, parsley, leek tops, whole peppercorns)
>toss in the bones
>pour on the water
>pour in 1% salt by weight
>set to simmer and let it get to a low boil
>scum will float to the top, but this is essentially all protein so I only scoop it out if I'm serving the broth to others (it will make the broth cloudy)
>the bones must be covered by water at all times
>once the water gets too low, I'll take a sample in a shot glass, put it in the fridge, and see if it's jello yet
>if not i just add more water and test again when it gets low again
>if it's ready I kill the heat, wait for it to get a bit cooler, and start fishing out the bones n' bits the best i can
>next get another large pot and put a sieve over it to filter your peppercorns and other tiny debris
>optionally taste test for salt
>next get out all your jars and start portioning your broth
>clean up

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>>75461963
here's the Dr. Now anti-death fat diet

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>>75465947
>bread
>starchy veg
No, that is definitely not what Dr Now says to eat.