>>75569026
You dead nigga

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>>75569026
No no no.
Eat Clen, Tren Hard and Test your limits.
You sound like a damned fool when you say it wrong!

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I'm 33% BF (5'11 146lbs).
Is it safe to use steroids? What should I use?
I heard obese people shouldn't use it so that's why I'm asking.
Test 978 ng/dl

>>75569328
"safe to use steroids". There is risk for anyone no matter thier body comp.
If what you are really asking is, "Can someone like me use them?" Then the answer is yes. But at higher bodyfat you may have a higher propensitiy for some negative side effects. For example, body fat is what aromatizes testosterone into estrogen. At higher bodyfat, you will be more prone to have higher estrogenic side effects (water retention, gyno etc) so you must have a sutable anti-aromatase on hand as well to manage these sides (Arimadex for example).
Can you get results? Yes. But you MUST fully educate yourself before starting.
Where you are 5'11 and only 146 @ 33% BF, this suggests that you are an entirely untrained beginner.
With this, if the question is, "Should I be lookng to steroids right now?" Then the answer is no, not yet.
You shouldn't even think of hoping on roids until your an intermediate to advanced lifter, and know your body and how it responsed to intense training well.
Roids aren't a magic pill. They are a tool to enhance training results. They aren't a replacement for training.

>>75569393
you actually typed all that shit out to reply to that retard/troll?

>>75569447
not a troll

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>>75569328
>I'm 33% BF (5'11 146lbs).
>Test 978 ng/dl

GO TO THE FUCKING DOCTOR AND RUN A BUNCH OF DIAGNOSTIC TESTS, TESTOSTERONE IS OBVIOUSLY NOT YOUR PROBLEM.

I have about half your test level, I'm 2" taller and 65lb heavier with less than half the bodyfat, and I haven't touched anything harder than ecdysterone. You have some kind of non-testosterone problem going on here.

>>75569141
Eat clen, Tren hard, Anavar give up.

>>75569328
you need to learn how to work out, taking roids is the last thing if you want to learn your body

>>75569026
FAGGOTS
A
G
G
O
T
S

what's a good mini-blast when cutting

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What are you running for general health alongside your stack? For liver, kidneys, whatever. I currently only take fish oil for hdl and zinc/magnesium to replenish my essence.

Anyone have experience with any of these
>b6 or 12 or any complex
>NAD+
>glutathione
>mots-c
>ss-31
>other

Anyone else feel legitimately retarded on steroids? I feel like my issues with procrastination and attention span have gotten worse.

>>75569594
maybe i fuck a lot more like 5s and 6s even girls who aren't rail thin

>>75569026
Is that a bag of nuggets?

>>75569026
Anyone know any alternate methods of administration for T Cypionate? Oil variety. I'm in a situation right now and desperate. Particularly interested in the following:
>nasal
>boofing
>oral, but only if i can get it directly through my bloodstream somehow

>>75569738
Intramuscular injection

>>75569805
>been out of a job for 6 months and still live with parents. fresh hs grad
>one friend who agreed to ship my stuff to moved away
>tried walking for 5 hours every day for a month in every direction asking pharmacies to buy some needles and they all say i need a script
>need to save money for own place and college so cant afford a po box
Its not that I'm a pussy, man. Its that I can't.

How much to increase kcal by after first pin. Nearly week 3 and I've sort've just been consistent desu since I haven't noticed many changes.

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>>75569870
In UK we're fortunate enough to be able to take advantage of needle exchange units. Basically put here so that crackheads and their ilk don't inadvertently kill themselves by reusing needles. All meant to lessen the pressure on the already exhausted NHS. The offer is also extended to those who use gear. So I literally walk in, ask for x amount of 1" and x amount of 0.5" (I use the 1" to draw and then backload the 0.5" for prep to IM inject). They even provide syringes, alcohol wipes and yellow bins. Then after you've used 'em all you go back, take the bin, they process it themselves, then rinse and repeat. All is 100% "free" (auto-taxed, obviously).

Is there absolutely no place available where you're at for this service? Even if it meant going to a different state/province or contacting someone in said state/province to do this for you (likely at a small fee)? If not, then I think you're shit out of luck my mate an may have to temporarily give up the gear until you're in a better position to obtain the necessary equipment. Or make friends with someone in healthcare/medical scene n' see if they can help you out?

What program are you guys running and how to pick one on roids? I assume people on roids can handle more volume and frequency?
Specifically powerlifting but powerbuilding works too

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>>75569981
if you plan to take roids, you should be experienced enough to develop your own program instead of using some bullshit made up by a youtube fag who just wants to make money by selling it suckers and newbs

>>75569870
I don't see country flags on this board, but here in the US you can just buy all pins on Amazon.

>>75569870
>tried walking for 5 hours every day for a month in every direction asking pharmacies to buy some needles and they all say i need a script
you're too stupid to just call and ask them?
And why do you think there would be a pharmacy who would sell them to you in violation of the law?
And you dont even have a fucking car?
You are the most useless faggot retard to ever post here. Please do not take steriods for your own safety.
On second thought never mind, I think 3 grams of tren and 250 grams of DNP will be an awesome stack for you

>>75570495
NTA but in some states like Delaware you cant even get them from Amazon without an Rx.
I have family there so when I go to visit for extended says I mail my vials and syringes there. (too scared to bring them on the plane lol)

t. I am not Hunter Biden

also Delaware sucks ass if anyone is wondering

>>75570518
You can buy “hobby” syringes and needles for “applying glue and paint” that are sterile.

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>>75569870
This is the most pathetic thing I've read here. Simple Google searches would answer your question. Luckily you are never going to pin

>>75570665
Just buy needles from a vet supply. It's literally what the trannies do.

>>75570458
One thing that makes it easier is chatgpt no longer flips out over steroids. I used to have to say for harm reduction to prep for a doctor's appointment or shit. Now I just tell the fucker I'm taking AAS.

Chatgpt give me a push program with 25 working sets not counting warm.up or cool down. The program should be optimized for a person using test and eq who wants to strengthen tendons.

And it works

whats the point to do a cycle over blasting and cruising when pct are more dangerous than the steroid itself
are pct just bad advice? the more i read about it and the more i feel it would be more wise to cruise and blast

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Cruising with just test is stupid, throw in a more anabolic compound so you can still gain some

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>>75571696
same reason half the fraud threads are natties asking time wasting questions when they'll never pin
low test, nervousness and fear
but yeah blast and cruise is better than pct by a mile just requires a longer shutdown and ironically bigger balls
haha

>>75569870
Fucking lol, do you not have any friends that you can ship it to? And you don't have a car either?
In burger and leaf land there are medical supply stores that sell needles and syringes in boxes of 100. What communist shithole are you from?

>>75569472
>ecdysterone
Elaborate?

>>75571885
It's some placebo snake oil garbage

>>75569594
when i would be on a blast yes, it would make my brain feel impenetrable. it seems to feel normal on 250 a week though

>>75569328
Yikes. To be honest, if I was you I would lose weight and get down to like 12% body fat first, then bulk up a little first. Then you can do steroids if you want. Maybe if it’s just a mild oral cycle. But even then you should cut another time and before you start seriously roiding. Such high body fat at such a light weight means you won’t really be able to get the full effect from the steroids. You’re not really there with your diet or workouts yet

>>75569571
testosterone

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>>75569328
get mogged

>>75572126
yea dude oral cycle for the dude who hasnt gotten out of bed once in his entire life

>>75569658
Oh my god, right? Like.... wtf is going on? Why do fatties look okay now? I need a girl with her ribcage sticking out like a xylophone. Not these fluffy donut hogs

>>75569571
K2
Zinc
D3
Vitamin c

Whats that stuff yout taking?

>>75569870
the steroids wont change the fact that youre a fucking loser lmao!!!

>>75570458
>you should be experienced enough to develop your own program
DYEL

>>75572488
tangential but I've found most pure bodybuilding programs to be dogshit
>do first 8 week block of Gamma Bomb by John Meadows
>mediocre results
>switch over to a homemade Arnold Split and lift as heavy as I can for the first 2 exercises then just pump my muscles with easy sets of 10-15 reps
>make way more gains

>>75572451
I don't currently take any of those but I've heard good things especially NAD and SS-31.

Right now I only take fish oil, zinc, and magnesium.

Any advice to avoid cyst acne while blasting cruising? Any otc product I used dont seem effective
I’m acne prone but didn’t have that much an issue in the past, maybe I got a bad batch

>>75572603
higher frequency for more stable bloods

>>75572603
Take a shower everyday.
rub tea tree oil before sleeping

>>75572126
>Yikes. To be honest, if I was you I would lose weight and get down to like 12% body fat first
I'd have to go as low as 100lbs to reach 12% BF

>>75571885
It literally does nothing.

Should 360mg of Primo be enough to control estrogren on 600mg of Test a week? I usually take a pill and a half of arimidex a week on that dose. I can also run 400mg of Primo instead, but it'd only be 15 weeks vs 16 weeks on 400mg. Just the amount I happen to have on hand.

since we are talking about routines, rate my frauding routine
strength focus because bodybuilding is homosexual, should I add more or adjust? Seems like a lot, on blast I love it and PR weekly or biweekly, cruise is tough but doable volume wise, cutting its hell but so is cutting
Weekly Training Schedule
Monday: Morning: Deadlift
Deadlift: 4x3-5,
Incline Bench Press: 4x6-8,
Pendlay Row: 3x6-8,
Barbell Holds: 3x20-30 sec.
Monday Evening: Boxing
Tuesday: Morning: BJJ Class
Wednesday: Morning: Bench Press
Bench Press: 4x3-5,
Weighted Pull-Ups: 4x5-8,
Floor Press: 3x8-10,
Ab Wheel Rollouts: 3x10-15
Thursday: Morning: BJJ Class
Friday: Morning: Squat & Overhead Press
Squat: 4x3-5,
Overhead Press: 4x3-5,
Weighted Chin-Ups: 3x5-8,
Romanian Deadlift: 3x8-10
Friday Evening: BJJ Class + Open Mat
Saturday: Morning: BJJ Class
Sunday: Afternoon: Open Mat
Notes: Intensity & Volume: Main lifts at RPE 8-9; accessory lifts kept moderate to prevent overtraining. Or just up your dose, pussy.

>>75569026
what's in the bag?

>>75572813
Add some curls

>>75569026
Frauders how does tendon strength come in to play? Does it also increase in a shorter amount of time?

>>75573118
No. Tendons are usually the same as natty or can get dried out by some compounds like winstrol. A lot of retards go to snap city because their muscles grow faster than the tendons

>>75573118
as the other anon said, muscular growth will outpace tendon strength
eventually you'll mix in AAS that enhance tendons because test and others will decrease it
look up collagen synthesis in the plebbit wiki for examples
first cycle don't worry about it

>>75572914
but why, plenty of arms already there and I'm not looking to peacock

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>>75569026
How much more potent is superdrol than anadrol mg/mg?

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>>75573200
Which ones strengthen joints? I know deca/npp and anavar do. Any others? A lot of trt+ boomers run 100mg of deca a week year round. They swear it's joint lube.

>>75573206
I follow a similar routine and my arms were lagging until I added skull crushers and a variation of curls. If you think youre good than okay

/r/steroids/wiki/medicinal/list/#wiki_collagen_synthesis
just don't go into the sub itself, not worth the mental anguish

>>75573253
see
>>75573294

>>75572533
I would do this but I'm mostly interested in strength, the frequency is too low, I need to bench 3x a week and squat at least 2x

>>75572488
i'm usually inclined to agree but if you have no specific goals and are just doing what you find fun, you'll definitely make more progress than following some cookie cutter shit with movements you don't really particularly enjoy.

I'm 6'1 and 242 pounds. Hoping that anons can help me. I understand that ampoules and vials exists, so far in my country I have only seen ampoules being sold in pharmacies.

I'm going to start doing TRT but I wanted to inject 30mg of testosterone cypionate 3x per week, instead of the doctor recommendation of 100mg once per week.

From what I understand once you open a ampoule it can get contaminated but I don't see a vial of the cypionate for sale, do you guys know the best way to store the ampoule?

>>75573438
just fill syringes until the ampoule is empty

>>75573450
I thought of that but the question would be if there is a possibility of contamination on the syringe. Also, do I just store the syringe on the fridge?

>>75573458
no, you dont need to store in the fridge if you'll inject in a week or two. likely no change of contam. wipe with alchohol pads. don't keep in the fridge or you'll prolly crash the test.

>>75569026
What if you weren't gay

>>75573438
So you wanna put concentrated animal segments into a needle and injection it before trying to do a bunch of Adderall and weed to figure out how to lift in like 2 weeks once you've gathered the data on what works undeniably with constant diet and shit?

>>75573516
You could probably recreate steroids from finding out how to concentrate and heat up and emulsify semen like dude I am not gay.

>>75569870
>no money, no car, lives with parents, needs steroids.

You need a few other things first, kid.

>>75572806
Ya, that should be fine.

t.primo user

>>75573560
Thanks anon. First time trying primo. My first blast was 500mg of test and I grew like a weed. Looking forward to this one. The 200mg/ml primo I got is pretty PIPy, which I hear is a good sign that its real. Is that right? Also I hear you dont really feel any mental effects from it? I really enjoyed the way low dose anavar made me feel.

>>75569026
What do you guys even do for a living to be able to afford that kind of stuff ?

>>75573702
It's relatively cheap though my food budget is higher

I got 8.4 nmol/L total test ;_;

>>75573712
That + food + rent + gym subscription must be crazy expensive

>>75573702
Food costs wayyyyy more than gear

ive been training for over a decade. i might hop on soon. give me sources or at least tell me on which ones im most likely to get scammed

>>75573702
test is cheap

>>75572624
You have literally never exercised in your life. You don’t need steroids, you need to do any form of physical activity. You’re a fat fuck and need to stop posting in this thread and go to the gym.

>>75573748
I get mine from Greg, tell him I sent you
give him a firm handshake and he'll help you out

>>75569472
>You have some kind of non-testosterone problem going on here.
he's just fat and doesn't work out
he doesn't need a jew doctor, he needs to stop stuffing his mouth with junk food, start moving, and start exercising

>>75573720
I bought a home gym like any sensible man though

>>75573702
It's cheap, I pay around $36 for a vial of Boldenone 300mg/mL and $32 for a vial of Test E 300mg/mL, you can do a couple months long blast for really cheap. I don't even count the costs of things like alcohol wipes, syringes and needles as 100 piece packs go for like $7/box. The only expensive part imo is AIs. That obviously changes if you're running grams of gear a week or add GH but you can get good results with just the basics.

>>75573702
Ngl you're just a brokefag
But because you asked, I run a tech company and a few side hustles and net well over $1M a year, hopefully double or more next year
Also just a test and primocel with occasional anavar PWO

>>75573804
var preworkout is so underrated

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I am 10 weeks into a 20 week cycle. Is it too late to swap in deca? I'm running test/primo/eq and want to swap out primo for deca. I know my e2 will go up but I have ai if I need it.

Is it too late? Can I go switch to npp?

>>75573817
It's just rated bro

>>75569328
> I'm 33% BF (5'11 146lbs).
Bro what? That doesn’t even make sense. Do you have literally no muscle at all?

>>75573804
Arent side hustles a meme ?

>>75573907
yes
t. $1.1M a year

>>75573924
shit bro i make 2000 a year, thats enough to turn several kilos of raws into finished oil

>>75569328
> 33% bodyfat at 146lbs
Means you have 99lbs of muscular and bone density lmao
Gr8 b8 m8

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>>75574122
>Means you have 99lbs of muscular and bone density lmao
>Gr8 b8 m8
not a bait at all

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75573903
>> I'm 33% BF (5'11 146lbs).
>Bro what? That doesn’t even make sense. Do you have literally no muscle at all?
There's something wrong with me.

>>75569571
In running fatter than I like . Alongside 500mg test C a week, here's my stack
> 5mg nebivilol
> 40mg telmisartan
> Zinc
> Magnesium
> Carditone
> Cassus root
> Iron
> Vitamin C

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I just met someone who shoots a Gram of tren.

>>75572603
Pin ED .
Accutane as well.
You can try salt scrub exfoliates and diluted bleach baths.

>>75574213
Did he look good?

does mk677 require pct? and what sides do you get? my goal is just to bulk and widen out my chest/back

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10 weeks into blast, I seem to have gone from relatively lean to fat as fuck in the space of a few days. Is it E2 bloat? Something else?

>>75573852
Just add npp or up the eq dose. Deca is going to take too long to kick in.

>>75574357
More than likely e2. How's your face, getting puffy? Either end the cycle or add an AI

>>75574213
My hero. Only tren? I'm gonna start 800/week in a few months
>>75574343
No, and it won't do what you think. Suck it it. Pin 500mg/week testosterone
>>75574357
Water retention, nigga

>>75574422
>it won't do what you think
i heard it makes me hungry-er and makes you gain weight (not necessarily tons of muscle though). ive also heard that it improves sleep and doesnt fuck your body up (in some cases supposedly it makes it better, ie less likely to lose hair and better skin but maybe its not true)
thats all im looking for, i just want it to make me eat more and sleep better
im not pinning test lol

>>75569328
its sad that i know this is a female skeleton and that you are a tranny :(

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>>75572269
lmao that all u got kid?

>>75569328
These stats are impossible for a man

>>75569026
https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/32237444/mum-dies-suddenly-weight-loss-drops/

How can you shill clenbutrol when it kills people?

>>75574464
she lost all her weight
seems like the shit works
also everyone knows salbutamol is better if more mild

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>>75574438
I'm a man
>>75574452
just look at my pics... I know I probably have some weird condition, I'm trying to figure it out

>>75574185
what the fuck is this CREATURE
im saving this picture

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>>75574411
Thanks. Follow up question, can I pin npp 3x a week or do I need to pin more frequently since it's a short ester?

>>75574185
>>75574524
dude go to a hospital

>>75574530
Pin ed if you can, otherwise e2d. MWF is definitely not optimal but it will work. If you’ve never tried ed pinning I’d suggest at least trying it out for the rest of your cycle, I feel a noticeable difference from even 3x a week

>>75574524
yes, a man witha female skeleton meaning you were on estrogen young and making you a tranny. as i said.

>>75574721
>yes, a man witha female skeleton meaning you were on estrogen young and making you a tranny. as i said
How is my Test 978 ng/dl then?
How did I develop big balls being on estrogen?

>>75574730
I hope you find a fix anon praying for u

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>>75569026
What is the best cycle for clenbuterol?
1 in the morning 1 before bed for 1 month?

>>75574422
How to counter water retention >>75574422

Im running superdrol and test with tudca bp control and milk thistle. What else should I run with it?

>>75574730
Fragile X stndrome

>>75574752
Eat less salt, do more cardio, eat less carbs, use more AI, drink more water. Not necessarily in that order

>>75574730
absolute troll. no one sees 978 test and asks online "Is it safe to use steroids? What should I use?" because 1. your test is already natty maxxed and 2. youre probably on steroids to get there in the first place. also you probly have androgen insensitivity if you arent trolling which u r

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>>75574832
>Fragile X stndrome
That's not it 100%
>>75574860
>absolute troll. no one sees 978 test and asks online "Is it safe to use steroids What should I use?"
>because 1. your test is already natty maxxed
yes, my doctor even asked if I was roiding.
>and 2. youre probably on steroids to get there in the first place.
no. never used anything.
>also you probly have androgen insensitivity if you arent trolling which u r
not trolling, just look at the pics.
androgen insensitivity is a strong possibility.
I'm waiting on the results of a kayiotype test but it's taking too long. on another thread someone mentioned I'll have to use extremely high doses of steroids to have a masculine body.
I'm extremely nervous because I'll be 40 soon and I still have the body of an infant (an obese child).
What would be the treatment if it's confirmed androgen insensitivity?

>>75574898
>just look at the pics
post timestamp written in sharpie etc on your body and then people will believe it
better if you can record it and make it a webm but if not its ok

>>75574906
https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/75371910/#75371910

I've been asking for help since october.

>>75574898
> The average IQ in males with FXS is under 55
Yeah I don’t know dude, you have at least two symptoms

>>75574924
>Yeah I don’t know dude, you have at least two symptoms
more than that actually, but I didn't even consider it because of the "average 55 IQ". Maybe I'm one of the smart ones.

>>75574910
ah right, i guess just admit to yourself that you have given up, because clearly you have

>>75574971
>ah right, i guess just admit to yourself that you have given up, because clearly you have
I didn't give up, that's why I'm looking for a solution... If I had given up I wouldn't waste my time with all the tests (and the costs that come with it)

>>75574898
What’s wrong with your skin? Specifically the discoloration and ulcers(?) but also the stretchiness I guess

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>>75569026
I have no future and I'm 6'1 but fat (football lineman fat) so I just take a cocktail of 300mg 1andro, 20mg rad-140, 12.5mg mk677, and 20mg cardarine daily and I'm gonna permabulk for a few cycles before I ask a woman out, get rejected, and kill myself by dropping a 4pl8 bench on my neck when I ask an employee to spot me while recording it live.

I'm a 30 year old kissless hugless handholdless dateless virgin on NEETBUX with no car, job, or my own home.

>>75575010
>What’s wrong with your skin? Specifically the discoloration and ulcers(?) but also the stretchiness I guess
psoriasis

>week 3
>feel nothing
You guys lied to me. This shit doesn't work.

>>75575111
what did you take?

>>75575129
t e

>>75574430
The hunger doesnt hit everyone, so bulking is a maybe. It's a growth hormone precursor, which explains the skin stuff. If you do get that effect, it's gonna be mild, so no back growth. Your back soaks up the test, and will grow a lot. The only sarm that does anything is cardarine. Everything else is a waste of money. Far less good, with all the bad, and costs six times as much. Also, you're in fraud. Not sissy sarm land. Pin test
>>75574898
nigga.... marfan's syndrome? And at 40? Get your fuckin heart checked before an artery explodes. And don't work out, 'cause you'll perma fuck your buttery soft joints
>>75574752
>>75574838
What he said. Or just take something to dry you out
>>75575111
Who tf said three weeks? Probably five or six, and it's not gonna be some big whoa omg moment. You probably won't notice anything until you realize one day that you're not as sore as usual after working out

How much gains will I gain per UI of HGH?

>>75575136
What dose?

>>75575487
In muscle? Basically none but it will help you lose fat faster and keep you lean while bulking.

>>75575111
takes at least a month for test e to kick in

>>75574898
I hope you get it figured out anon

>>75575256
>Also, you're in fraud. Not sissy sarm land. Pin test
yeah ok fair enough, ill stay natty for a while longer

>>75569141
>>75569491
DBolish your goals

>>75574910
looks like you got your answer in that thread, didn't you?

>>75569393
Dude. Thanks for one of the most informative posts in here.

>>75575256
>something to dry you out
What compounds?

>>75575503
w1 250
w2 375
w3 500
w4 ???

>>75575813
ozempic

>12 days into 500mg test 1st cycle
>wake up to nipples leaking
wtf have i done?

>>75575836
retard

>>75569026
>>75569029
Can I stack Clen with Mounjaro/Ozempic? Then come off both when I'm finished cutting?

I want to get as skelly as possible (like below 100lbs) so I can spend a year bulking without actually getting fat.

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>>75569026
I’ve been rotating delts, glutes, and quads as my injection sites for a little while now. Delts and glutes are no problem, but I want a replacement for quads; it seems like 50-50 odds I get a massive bruise no matter what I do. Does anyone have a better guide on how to do vaso? These pics are unhelpful for self injection…

>>75572806
Nobody can really answer that question besides you taking either bloods or you noticing any high estrogen related sides.
High estrogen isn't really bad on steroids if you don't experience sides, dont try to push it in range just because.
So the guideline from the pro coaches is usually to dose testosterone as high as possible without any estrogen related sides and add other steroids on top of that dosage as needed.

>>75573702
I am a NEET and still on steroids, its cheaper than whey protein lol.
So from importancy of gains perspectivet its steroids > food > everything else.
I can just inject and make crazy gains on shitty food, etc.

>>75576241
Fair enough. Anything to look out for really? I always get in my own head about it and wonder if my nipples are sensitive lol. Should it be really obvious? Worst case scenario I have AI on hand. I do wish the primo had more acute mental effects though. I really enjoy the way this dose of test makes me feel. Same with the anavar which Im not on right now.

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>>75576215
I mean VENTRO, fuck

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>>75576273
That's a bit hard to tell, because some of the low estrogen side effects are similar or overlapping with high estrogen side effects.
If your nipples are (really) sensitive you would feel it in a shirt, it would feel unfomfortable after a while running or rubbing against the fabric, sometimes even painful.
But nothing wrong with taking a mild dose of Primo/Mast to combat some of the aromatization from the test, its certainly better practise than taking an AI.
Even though the second gen AIs (Aromasin) aren't that hard on lipids, etc.
So in the end it depends on what you want, for purely anabolic effects stacking steroids is always the way to go, but if you like just having super high testosterone because of mental reasons, then just adding a bit of Masterone/Primo is a way to go without too many sides.

Picture related for the side effects (the top).

>>75573804
Wouldn’t you make more just focusing on the business?

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Guys I think I fucked up.

I was taking 500mg Test E, 300mg Mast P, 20mg Dbol and 50mg Proviron for the last 16 weeks and got a bit of gyno, is it over now?

>>75576303
Oh shit nigga hopefully you have AI and SERM on hand like literally every single person says to do. Hit the nolva. If that doesn't work hit the Ralox.

That's a lot of tools in thr toolbox. Maybe you reduce that to 2 or 3 once you get this under control.

>>75576303
Dostinex 0,5mg EOD + 10mg Nolvadex daily + 1mg Arimidex weekly

start today

>>75576326
>>75576332
Thanks guys, but I need to order that online and it takes probably ~6 weeks until the package is here.

>>75576335
Lol you're fucked nigga. Just Order the shit and cruise. Take 50mg dbol without an ai lol

Order it now. Order extra. Get ralox. That works better on tits and I've heard you can use it later.

The alternative is get on tinder and look for some bitch with breast cancer and steal her meds.

>>75576346
>The alternative is get on tinder and look for some bitch with breast cancer and steal her meds.
I feel bad for even writing this. Don't do this obviously.

Everything hurts... will deca fix me

>>75576303
>test and dbol
>gyno
you were asking for it

>>75575505
> keep you lean while bulking.
That means muscle gains

>>75576355
I’d reply with a basedjak picture if I had one

>>75576530
Sorry, I wasn’t totally clear bout what I meant. HGH isn’t actually very anabolic on its own. It is extremely anticatabolic though, so on a cut it’s great because it helps retain muscle. It also has nutrient partitioning effects, increasing lipolysis and insulin sensitivity in myocytes. On a bulk you will gain slightly more muscle because of this but this effect is negligible compared to using more anabolics. The real magic is that you end up a lot less fat. With insulin this is even more dramatic, which is why when gh came on the scene guys got so huge.

>>75576292
Thanks anon. Guess I was just looking to have someone confirm what I already know. Wosrt case scenario ill pop half an adex a week alongside my dose or grab another vial of primo and up the dose a bit. I just personally dont want to go past 16 weeks or over a gram of gear even if its something mild like test + primo. Its important to have limits with drugs. Ill keep an eye out on my nips though so I dont end up like >>75576303

>>75576632
Gear? Limits. Don't forget to be successful you need to... eat clen. tren hard. test your limits. anavar give up

>>75576332
lol caber isnt going to do shit besides make his addict brain worse

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>>75576303
I'd bet a chunk of cash you already had gyno before gear, it takes much longer than 16 weeks to form actual hard tissue. The fact you you aren't lean and not using an ai means the water retention pools in your chest and makes your gyno look awful.

100% you had tissue before, mast binds with the breast tissue preventing new tissue from forming, but won't necessarily stop the water retention because of the dbol and higher test. Unironically serms and ai won't help you, only mask it, you have to remove the tissue.

>>75576303
the actual answer is youre fucked, 60mg ralox might do something maybe but thats not remotely close to "a bit of gyno"

>>75576511
Nah he’s just retarded. Both convert to (methyl)estradiol but that conversion is prevented with AI
t. Testosterone + dbol + hCG + finasteride (just about the wetter stack ever) enthusiast

>>75576845
>Nah he’s just retarded. Both convert to (methyl)estradiol but that conversion is prevented with AI
what is your AI protocol?

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>>75576332
>>75576841
neither of these will do shit, he's better off saving his money for surgery. It's hard gyno tissue from puberty, not gear.

>>75576845
>>75576852
Dbol is not even worth it, it's one of the main compounds niggers get gyno. Gynofag should've increased mast to 800mg at least or added EQ to mitigate e2 spikes. Now he has milky tits + a natty physique. What a way to go

>>75569026
The likelihood that a steroid user has had gay buttsex is unlimited

>>75576882
>mast
Dude what even is that you're putting ahit into a needle that a Chinese teenager had in a bathtub or gas station sink.

>>75569026
I'm natty and far weaker than I should be and I could absolutely demolish all of you

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>>75576882
dbol is great, cheap, strong asf, better than anadrol, and combos great with winstrol for insane strength gains.

It's extremely hard to get gyno unless you never run an AI. Though most of you faggots think taking an AI will kill your gains kek.

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>>75576885
>>75576895
>Natties worst nightmare

>>75576898
i fucking love dbol man i just hate the moonface i just retain so much water

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>>75576969
add winstrol and mast, and or tren if you hate yourself like me.

>>75576855
strong reading comprehension buddy

>>75576969
Telmisartan + EQ/ Primo/ Mast

>>75576986
i'm repeating a point, because every gear forum/community seems to think ralox will do something to hard formed tissue. It won't.

>>75577000
I always thought 100mg/day ralox MIGHT help reverse hard tissue growth, and a far bigger maybe if it's pubertal gyno. But, yeah, you're supposed to have this shit on hand, and take 100mg ed for a week the second you think you see something. Otherwise you're in it for months hoping to reverse it with meds before you gotta have surgery

Is there a hair safety ranking for roids
Ive tried test primo anavar so far and my hair didn't change. I want to try something else but close to them in the hair losing scale

>>75576985
i'm already on tren, i probably just need to up my AI doseage if i take it same day as my test. i just try to take as little asin as possible.
>>75576996
dunno about telmisartan, but EQ helped a lot, but i was only pinning it twice a week so i'd end up aromatizing a ton when i was on it and taking dbol as pre workout.

>>75577028
run nizoral if youre worried about hair loss. You will be fine for most things on a low to moderate does. Just avoid masteron.

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>>75577013
The studies were mixed at best, the more interesting fact was how bad it performed if you looked at forum posts. Ralox does very little on formed tissue.

That's the key difference, formed tissue. You can easily reverse fresh tissue with AI, Mast etc. Most people either trick themselves into thinking they have gyno because they're higher body fat and water retention in the chest is a typical male trait, or don't realize they already had that tissue from Puberty. It's very difficult to form hard tissue, anybody who's been blasting for years can back me up on this. You'd have to never run an AI for easily a year for that shit to happen.
>>75577043
I'd switch to Ace, Tren E always bloats guys i've noticed.

>>75577068
everything from winny to mast to tren can cause hair loss. It's only a problem if you have MPB.

If you're scared about hair loss, why would you even take gear? You're missing out on the meat and potatoes just taking lmao "test".

>>75577095
Test Primo anavar npp hgh are hair safe tho

Blast is going great. Numbers going up. Muscle going up. Fat staying still. Only problem I'm.not doing any cardio outside of any walking I do in life.

I just noticed as I'm scrolling through the threads I am huffing and puffing lol. Like breathing loudly. I keep promising myself when the blast is over I'm going to be gay trt cardio guy for 6 months.

>>75577127
Does gooning count as cardio

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>>75577081

>>75577043
Telmisartan is gonna cut bloating at the source. E2 increases water retention but so do androgens just at a higher dose

>>75577068
Nta, but just bought some nizarol shampoo actually. How much does it interfere with DHT steroids, if at all?

>>75577132
If you get your heart rate to zone 2 for 30 minutes straight that's cardio

>>75577132
Only if you thrust into your hand. I guess fucking 3x a day is like 24 minutes of HIIT. It does leave me breathless and covered in sweat

>>75577028
deca is also hair safe, more hair safe than test (+ finasteride/dutasteride) or primo, but has some pretty bad long term health impacts (proven to be cardiotoxic and neurotoxic)
EQ (boldenone) is about the same as primo
avoid masteron/tren/etc.

>>75577109
no
>>75577095
test is all you need, whats the most test yoive ever taken?

>>75577205
Fuck you mean no
If you can handle 500 test without hair loss you can handle all those other ones

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>>75577109
>>75577195
>primo is hair safe
opinion discarded, lmao.
>>75577205
A gram of test and a gram of EQ, the muscle gain to fat gain ratio on a bulk was terrible compared to a stack with 19 nor and a oral. Test is extremely overrated.

>>75577235
>If you can handle 500 test without hair loss you can handle masteron
Exactly, don't a be faggot with MPB. You'll be aight.

>>75577081
>I'd switch to Ace, Tren E always bloats guys i've noticed.
yeah i'm on ace. i think the enth thing is higher concentrations in the blood over time, considering the half life of ace, if you're not extremely precise with your injection schedule.

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>>75569571
Man, it feels good to make a meme and see it spread. I made this one years ago on /tg/ when I was a warhammer faggot and I still see it posted to this day.

>>75577266
pinning ED?

>>75577274
>/frauder/ and Warhammer 40k?
/ourguy/ confirmed

>>75574743
Lip filler

>>75577149
I don't know many good studies on it but it seems to work just fine as long as you aren't running something higher than a moderate dose. I ran 600mg of test and 400mg of tren and still got some thinning but anything less than worked fine for me.

>>75577358
I meant the opposite actually. Will the Nizoral make the DHT steroids weaker like fin would.

>>75577028
I saw this link posted before but its down now...
https://web.archive.org/web/20230608152627/http://www.hairlossfromsteroids.com/Specific-Steroids-and-Hair-Loss.html

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Currently running a pretty chill blast that I enjoy, typical 500mg (300mg p/ 1ml vial) Test E an Anavar 40mg (considering a bit of proviron maybe we'll see), decided I only wanna pin delts because fuck it, it's straightforward enough. Not my first rodeo, pinned delts before. In order to get 500mg in two injections administered Mon and Thurs each one needs to be 0.83ml per delt equating to approx 249ml each time. Never had an issue before running this, however this time delts are staying pretty pipped up n' swole for days. Did right delt on Monday, today's Thursday and it's still very pumped up, got four days until I need to inject right delt again, as tonight's was left delt. Hoping the same doesn't keep happening. More uncomfortable than painful, can fight through it when lifting but if anyone has any advice on speeding up the absorption or any advice with delts? It's weird, I've done this millions of times never had an issue with dispersal. Only factor's that've changed is I've moved from Pharmaqo Test E to Proper-Labs. Warm up the oil/vial in palms for about 10 to 15 mins before, usually helps but yeah. So annoying, I know this sounds so amateur on my part but any advice is appreciated to potentially speed up absorption, I've been at this for years with little to no issues.

>>75577384
its only topical so it shouldnt be possible.

>>75577278
yeah, i'm pinning ED. sometimes i miss though and i can definitely feel the tren leaving and returning when i accidentally pin EOD.

>>75577425
gotcha thanks

>>75577245
Test sucks ass bro

>>75577109
>primo
>hair safe
lol
lmao

my son is 14 and he got laughed at in school for having a small penis. What can I give him to accelerate his penis growth? He is still in growing age

>>75577959
>my son is 14 and he got laughed at in school for having a small penis. What can I give him to accelerate his penis growth? He is still in growing age
Pump him with HGH and Test.
All in.
He will thank you later.

>>75577959
I unironically think doctors prescribe dht steroids for undeveloped genitals. If theres an actual medical issue take him to the doctor.

>>75577925
NTA but why are anons acting like primo is some hair-raper-9000? Are people getting masteron labeled as primo or something?
t. Sensitive hair follicles but not even a shed on primobolan

Hows a blood pressure of 134/72 on blast?

>>75577993
>is hypertension bad?

>>75577994
is it that bad? I had some coffee right before i got it done.

>>75577973
>If theres an actual medical issue take him to the doctor.
doctors dont care. they say 4 inches hard is "adequate".
will he have an "adequate" or even "tolerable" sex life with 4 inches?
no.
anon, buy the drugs yourself and apply on your son.

>>75577968
True just make sure he doesn't get gyno

>>75577959
Bates Guide to Medical Exams will give you all the knowledge a gp has

>>75578004
>True just make sure he doesn't get gyno
even if he gets gyno it's ok.
he can get it easily fixed with surgery.
he won't be able to grow his penis later.
the time is now.

>>75576303
oh nonono

So people bitch when someone asks about trt or a low dose cycle but we now have an active conversation with at least 3 people in it about a boys undersized penis.

Maybe I look at it differently.

>>75578162
Anons are not one person
I endorse low dose cycles if you’re looking to minimize side effects, self-prescribed TRT is gay and half the time people end up taking 200mgs because “it le feels good man xd”

>>75577993
its fine

>>75578231
yet fraud mock me for my 500mg test-e cycle

>>75578162
That's just niggers trolling the larper.
>believing random anons in the internet
>believing some larper about his kids undersized pepee

>>75578334
genuinely who is actually mocking you for a basic 500 test cycle? good on you for having restraint desu

>>75578393
i read several time that it is was basic bitch

>>75578424
youre in a thread where peoples favorite steroids are placebo doses of primo, eq, and anavar lol, why would you care what they think about you taking an actual cycle

>>75578424
it's a commonly agreed upon first cycle, why wouldn't it be basic bitch
stop being a touchy feely cunt

My balls haven't shrunk at all (seemingly) and i've been on for 6 months now.

>jump on finasteride
>test increase short peroid by 10-15%
>my sexdrive libido went to fucking amazing
>seemingly urge to do something with my life
>effect subsided in months
>barely this drive anymore
>less motivated
hmm its almost a calling for me to hop on steroids even tho i retired from bodybuilding just for the drive

good idea?

>>75578522
it took me several years to get tranny tier shriveled up nuts

>>75578582
Interesting, good to know.

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Redpill me on trenbolone. It seems like there aren't any good videos on it on youtube. It seems to be popular as a cutting steroid due to it increasing your metabolic rate through essentially giving you hot flashes. (I've heard that it's the same mechanism in menopausal women.) But it's also apparently really good for developing strength, since it's super androgenic.

>>75578651
>Redpill me on trenbolone
No

>>75578651
No one should be taking tren tbqh. The real issue is the sleep and anger issues. Also hope you like fucking fat chicks its a nightmare that will haunt your sleepless nights while on tren.

>>75578651
why do all of you faggots think taking roids is like playing an rpg lol
there is a reason why people dont take big doses of tren because its such a shitty drug to be on but yea bro its fully maxed out in every stat get on as soon as possible

>>75578334
Better off sticking to that forever as a method to skip through a plateau. Have some AI's on hand just incase and you really do not need anything else. On average its 2x - 3x what most TRT fags get anyways.

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I'm a manic depressive. I just got over a bout of mania that lasted about 4 weeks. It was pretty glorious. I was hoping it was thr steroids. I skipped the middle and I think I'm in a full depressive swing. Workouts are still great though so TGFT.

Worst of all, no depression eating this time. I'm actually having trouble eating and I've resorted to milk and 4 scoops of whey a day plus whatever I can choke down, usually chicken thighs. In the past I could eat a large pizza and 12 wings in a sitting.

Dick still works even though I have no desire. I get hard at will so I can go through the motions. Androgens are pretty awesome.

>>75578564
why not steroids for strength or sport performance or even general health
steroids for bodybuilding is the least appealing to me

>>75578791
add more test that will fix it

every 7 days or 5?

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>>75578162
TRT faggots talk about their low dose nonsense; primocels praise their mediocre compound, oral only fags ask why they need to pin. It's the same shit over and over. At least he had a different question.
>>75578502
kek
>>75578651
It's good, overly hated everywhere because people are hipsters. It works, it helps maintain a MUCH better amount of muscle on a cut compared to faggots taking trt and gh. Strength is awesome, pumps are great with carbs; the biggest issue I have with tren is makes my digestion off, too much red sauce or acidic type of food will give me reflux.
>>75578732
>I'll just repeat MPMD memes about tren
Let me guess, you'll start spouting about how tren will make you fuck trannies next? I'm more level headed on tren than just test, I can easily sleep 8 hours on 700mg a week. The acid reflux is the only problem with the compound.

Here, and most places people are seemingly scared of using AIs, and high estrogen will give you terrible insomnia on tren. If you keep it in reference range, you'll sleep fine.
>>75578741
No one on these forums are taking anywhere near what pros dump into their system. If you think a bit of tren is gonna fuck your shit up, lmao k bro.

>>75578925
Every other day minimum

>>75578651
Tren will be the perfect roid. if It didn't fuck with your sleep. Anger issues are manageable. Does anyone need to take it? only if you compete otherwise stick to deca

>>75575836
You titrated like a reddit faggot which almost no one suggests here and also it's common knowledge you won't feel shit till week 4 minimum besides maybe some e2 sides

Do your research first and you woulda known this

>>75575836
>>75579107
Nta, but general knowledge is that it takes a full month before you reach peak serum testosterone levels from what you're taking. This is also why a lot of people kickstart their cycles with orals. Even a simple 10mg of dbol per day can make a massive difference in that first month.

>>75578651
it's great, the rest of the replies on your post are retarded. don't take it though, if you have to ask you can't handle it.

>Been on 200mg test cyp and 500 units HCG (split into 2 doses over the week)
>small dose, but it brought my test from the 300s to a little over 1000
>on this for about 5 months
>not noticing much difference other than an increased libido and cumming faster than usual
>planning on taking a break to see how I feel off of it
>like, it isn't worth it if the only difference is more boners
>I assume that on such a low dose, I don't really need to taper down on the test
>should probably take HCG for a bit though to promote test production
>wife wants to try for a kid in about 6 months so fertility is important

any comments, advice, or reading that will give guidance? I got my test through an internet clinic,but they are useless for coming off, they just want to sell peptides and other shit instead.

>>75579346
You can stop cold turkey. You'll just feel blah until your natural production restarts. Usually 4-6 weeks, but it can be longer. If you're already doing hcg, you don't really have to worry about fertility. Should be fine already. Why'd you start trt though? Seems like you just woke up one day and decided to fuck your shit up because you saw chad doing it on tikkytokky

>>75569026
Anyone here bother with SubQ over IM? Just curious and want to hear peoples opinions. Personally always done glutes n' quads mainly, gym mate sent this earlier though:

https://alphahormones.com/why-subcutaneous-over-intramuscular-testosterone-injections/why-subcutaneous-over-intramuscular-testosterone-injections/

>>75579356
>Usually 4-6 weeks
It takes much longer than that for the test you've injected to leave your body, anon.

Anyone try BAM-15 yet? I'm seeing it available at different peptide shops now, it's supposed to be a safer version of DNP.

>>75579411
What the hell is DNP? How is this stuff supposed to work?

>>75579356

I started it for feeling blah. Originally, my doctor tested my levels while screening me for possible physical factors in my long-term depression. Medications didn't help much, gave me annoying side effects, and I was already doing the lifestyle shit like diet, exercise, and abstaining from drugs/alcohol. When he saw my test levels were on the low side (but still WNL), he said I would be a candidate for TRT, except he was concerned about fertility. Since my depression was mainly mental, but I was still physically doing okay, I just kept on keeping on.

Fast forward 3 years or so later, and my depression goes from "Fuck my life, but I still have the energy and drive to get a workout in after a 12-hour shift" to full fatigue and struggling to stay awake at work. My workouts were also getting harder and my recoveries were taking longer. I'd get a lot more lingering aches and pains. As a result, my physical shape has been slipping, and I am probably only half as active as I was 3 years ago.

The only thing that changed in this timespan was me hitting 40 (oldfag, I know) and starting a master's program while still working full-time. At the doctor, around a month before beginning TRT, all my labs and diagnostics were normal. So when I found out I could augment TRT with HCG to maintain fertility, I said fuck it and gave it a shot.

TL:DR: In the last year my energy levels completely tanked. Nothing showed at the doctor that can account for it, but my test has trended on the lower side and I hit my 40s, so I said fuck it and tried TRT to see what would happen.

>>75579356
>Seems like you just woke up one day and decided to fuck your shit up because you saw chad doing it on tikkytokky
Just like me fr

>>75579346
lol based reddit dose retard

>>75579346
Just come off. It will be unpleasant for a month and then you'll be fine again. Go cold turkey. Same with hcg. Your HPTA will.turn back on.

For a cruise with hcg, there's no need to pct. Have nolva on hand in case you get spicy nips, but otherwise don't take anything.

If and when you get back on skip the clinic. Now that you know how to dose and that 200mg is too high to cruise, source your own.

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I heard a meme. Would taking AI be equivalent to HCG for turning on testosterone when you are off cycle? Heard there was a feed back loop for fatties that having higher estrogen levels lowers test by proxy of the ratio in your blood and ends up lowering the amount of testosterone being produced.

>>75580220
>Heard there was a feed back loop for fatties that having higher estrogen levels lowers test by proxy of the ratio in your blood and ends up lowering the amount of testosterone being produced.
This is bullshit. People grossly exaggerate how much additional conversion of test to estrogen happens due to obesity, and natural obese lifters are the strongest, anyway, so if there were such a high conversion of test to estrogen, and this suppressed their natural test production in addition, then they wouldn't be the strongest lifters.

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>>75580237
Eh makes more sense explained like that.

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I've asked this before and never gotten a great answer so I'll ask again. Why doesn't everyone cruise on test u? It seems like a no brainer to me. Pin 2x a week or pin 1x every 2 weeks.

I don't do it either, but I'm going to start since no one can give me a reason not too. Then I can plan pins around trips and not have to take vials with me. One less hassle.

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>>75580237
My personal experience would be one of my guys I sell to, he's 5'7 200-205, higher bodyfat. He takes double the amount of aromasin that most of my guys do. At least 50mg a week, the test to estrogen conversion for fatter guys is considerable.

>>75580250
The website I buy from only has oral test U. It seems super convenient, though. I would just like to know what the equivalent would be for injecting it when taking it orally, since I've heard that the bioavailability of it is very low when taken orally, so you need to take more of it. I would like to have an oral to injectable test equivalent.

>>75580250
If you are 30+ with a stable job sure. Most people move around there city every 2 years. Move cities and states every 5 years. Cost ain't much atleast last time I bought some but for others there just using it to leap frog natty gains by a few years before getting off. Military infranty/special forces are blasting and cruising but pinning in the field aint sanitary when you sweat your balls of without showers for weeks on end. Not to mention harder to source.

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Uhh… wtf is going on with my test? This is after boiling it for 1/2 an hour to reconstitute it btw. I’m traveling and put a couple mL in an empty gh vial. It had some chunks in it when I got to where I was going so I figured it crashed but when I tried to heat it it did this. I pinned it this morning and so far no pip or anything but I am slightly concerned.

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>>75580257
>He takes double the amount of aromasin that most of my guys do. At least 50mg a week, the test to estrogen conversion for fatter guys is considerable.
He might be taking too much unless he's done labs. I've had gyno since I was 13, and taking test hasn't made it any worse. I'm on 700mg test E with 500mg deca, and I only take 0.5mg adex once every 1.5 days. I haven't taken any bloods, but I'm just trying to avoid some of the worse side effects of high E, like insomnia. (Taking test has actually cured my insomnia. I'm guessing it has to do with test lowering neuroticism, so I get less anxiety.) My dosing isn't random. People recommend 0.5mg adex once every 2 days for 500 or 600mg test, and I'm taking a bit more than that with some deca, which converts to estrogen at 1/3rd the rate. Also, this is me.

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>>75580262
It's wicked easy to source. I have a year's worth of test u vials sitting on my shelf. Cost wise it's like $5 more from a domestic. With the tranny it would be even less.

I'm doing it. No reason not to.

>>75580289
>With the tranny it would be even less.
huh?

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>>75580259
>oral test u
kek
>>75580262
>Military infranty/special forces
All of it is a joke now, even SF. All of the berets I know just train on base get ZERO combat deployments. Coke and girls on the weekends, you can do that anywhere; I'm very glad I never signed my contract.
>>75580268
toss that shit, wtf dude.
>>75580275
2-2.75mg of adex is alot. I'm not quite sure how to even respond to this comment, because I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish; are you a powerlifter or some shit, you have zero definition.

>>75580302
>2-2.75mg of adex is alot.
I take 0.5mg every 1.5 days, so this would be like taking 0.33mg every day. I'm just trying to get jacked and supa strong.

>>75580313
Not the other guy. I don't want to rag on you because you did post a Pic, but you don't even have a ton of muscle. You don't need to blast and especially not deca.

You could still build muscle and lose the fat on cruise + 4iu hgh ed + tirze/reta. You'd look better faster and respond better to thr gear the next time you blast.

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>>75580345
>but you don't even have a ton of muscle.
I've been on gear for three and a half months. I've gone from benching 245 for 4 to benching 315 for 6. I've gone from squatting 315 for 2, likely 1 RIR, to squatting 435 for 5, likely 3 or even 4 RIR. My deadlift has gone from what was likely 435 to what is now likely 575.

>>75580377
I partially take it back. You can see some muscle when you flex. That means you have too much fat hiding it. You probably could have hit about the same marks on a cruise dose and lose more fat, but whatever. If the blast is working keep going.

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>>75580377
NTA this likely wont help I am spit balling here. Cutting sugar to atleast once week will help with the fat, obviously. Switching to saturated fat with butter when frying food or whatever way you cook will help with hormone levels being in your favor. Veggies like cabbage, broccoli and what not will help minorly with estrogen's levels but the fiber will help the most. Add salt to your meals even to a salad will also help with cravings since it tastes more like a restaurant when you do.

That's all shit you should be doing anyways. Shoulders, obliques, lat's will all help reduce the fat that comes with gyno and reduce the skin stretch from fat on your chest but once again spit balling. Even with shadow assisting your prior picture you can see ab development so that is a sign that your working out really well.

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>>75580426
>Switching to saturated fat with butter when frying food or whatever way you cook will help with hormone levels being in your favor
stupid nigger

>>75580447
Sorry let me spell it out for you. Eat a stick of butter everyday to help with the low T.
:3

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>>75578979
it's the cardio hit for me, gotta be unfatiguable
eq and deca till I'm 80 and benching 500
then I'll start doing tren maybe just because at that point why not
hopefully they'll have something better by then

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>>75580377
you're gonna lose alot of strength when you go on a cut and drop 60lbs. Just a fair warning.
>>75580494
cardarine and EQ offset the hit to cardio on tren. Cardarine is goated.

>>75580541
>gonna lose alot of strength when you go on a cut and drop 60lbs.
How long will it take to gain back once I'm done with the cut?

>>75580541
>>75580547
Also, I already know damn well I'm going to have some loose skin. I currently weigh 290, but I likely used to weigh around 360. I lost a ton of fat back in 2020, going all the way down to 250, and I stayed that way all the way up to the beginning of this year when I got back into lifting.

>>75580298
iykyk

>>75580302
>toss that shit.
Nah, I’m pretty sure it’s just the hgh residue. Should have rinsed the vial first. It is like really cloudy though.

>>75580275
I also won’t rip on you since you posted body, but seriously consider something like 200 mg test + tirz + hgh (if you can afford it) for like a year or until you get under 15% bodyfat at least. I’m not suggesting this just for aesthetic reasons, it will make roiding less damaging to your body and improve your insulin resistance which will lead to more muscle mass in the long run. You could throw some var or mast in here and there if you wanted but that stack will get you lean with minimal effort.

>>75580690
>it will make roiding less damaging to your body and improve your insulin resistance
HGH increases insulin resistance, which is why people commonly take it with insulin.

>>75580690
This is probably the best advice. Id skip out on the HGH though. Maybe do anavar every once in a while. Ive found it great during a cut.

>>75580690
the cope of needing trt to lose weight is comical, youll just end up like the faggot in this thread crying about needing to come off because its a waste of time and effort to take roids for literally zero gain

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>>75569026
any roids that will reduce this happening? or i gotta trt for life after the first cycle bulk?

>>75580729
Nta but thr insulin sensitivity boost from losing visceral fat will fat outweigh a little bitnof resistance from 4iu of hgh.

>>75580828
Nah hgh is great on a cut. Preserves muscle and burns fat and also helps with sleep. I actually suggest ipa+tesa instead because it gives a small gh bump and burns visceral fat

>>75580888
Lol thanks for the opinion natty. He'll keep that in mind when he's getting his dick sucked on the beach.

>>75580910
Oh Ive heard its good for weight loss, but hgh is just outside of my acceptable risk profile because of the diabetes risk and because generally people use it alongside insulin.

>>75580898
yeah don't do meth and stop lifting/eating
losing all gains is a natty meme

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>>75580940
nta but at reasonable levels(1-4iu for men) there really isn't a diabetes risk
conveniently that range is optimal for lipolysis and body recomp
particularly paired with a glp1, I recommend retatrutide
it's the crazy aggressive levels pro bodybuilders use with insulin that diabetes ever becomes an issue
t. on cruise does of test, reta and hgh, picrel

>>75580964

BB needs to take insulin because they are eating 4000k a day. They eat sugar while they work out.

>>75580940
Very low diabetes risk. Get bloodwork. You would see the encroaching blood sugar. Diabetes doesn't happen overnight.

If I were fat I'd get constant bloodwork like every month. Then you would know you aren't jacking yourself up.

>>75580964
>>75580977
Thanks for the info. Interesting stuff since i dont know much about hgh.

>>75580910
i literally own more roids than everyone in this thread combined, and have taken more than anyone in this thread combined. you guys are all just fat faggots that dont have a clue

>>75580888
I don’t need trt to lose weight. I’ve been sub 10% natty (although tbf years ago and I ended up pretty small) and over 200 lbs natty but roids let me do both. Also, why would I want to come off roids? My health markers are fine and I feel good. Stay small natty nigger

>>75580940
No offense but this is a total midwit take. The diabetes risk is near zero if you aren't using insulin alongside and would mean taking insane amounts for literally years. It is very effective by itself or with aas. The actual health risks at therapeutic doses are nill.

>>75581305
No offense taken. Im not as informed on the drug as other people in the thread. Id still rather just not risk it and its outside my budget anyway lol

>>75580268
Why are you boiling it? Do you mean just heat it up until its moderately warm? Because if you actually boiled it then you're a retard.

>>75579462
Ah I'm right there with you, just two years younger. ED was creeping in, no energy, no motivation, shit focus, no refreshing sleep. Was taking 29 vitamins a day. Started daily cialis. Helped, but still was worse than I was four years prior. Did sleep studies, psych, doc visits, new bed, lower temp in room at night, cut off screen time/food/drink, no alcohol, stricter diet. On and on and on. Wasn't anything that jumped out. Doc wouldn't check testosterone though. Two years after all that I finally learned you can just get it done, so I did a blood test, and was just under 300. Low, but not wtf low. Nothing else was working, so I said fuck it, found a ugl, and jumped straight into 750mg/week test c. Helped with sooooo much. Still depressed, but things are at a point where i don't want to go home at the end of the day, so that's not exactly unexpected, and test isn't exactly for that so whatever. Point is, there's a lot that plays into this shit, so you gotta keep at it, and sometimes you'll just need to run shit yourself, 'cause nobody else is gonna do it for you. godspeed, nigger

>>75581310
>> not buying tranny's $145 bathtub special for 10x 36iu vials
ngmi

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Bloodwork back
Test 5.07 ng/ml
Free test 112 pmol/L
Estro 147 pmol/L

How do I not look like picrel? Should I switch AI?

Not trans btw.

>>75581430
gyat. i'd love to hate fuck her, but her clit's probably bigger than my dick

>>75577402
Thoughts?

>>75578651
I'm on 200mg tren perma cruise don't even "feel" it. Im sure it's doing shit for my mood swings though

>>75577402
>>75581798
could be a different base oil (even if you went from mct to mct, there's different grades/mixtures of mct). different ratio of ba/bb (more bb is smoother pin, but bb is absorbed faster and the test raws will crystalize before being absorbed and cause irritation/pip). if you're already warming and injecting slow (60 seconds or more), maybe try massaging the area for a few minutes after injecting. also if you've been pinning the same spots for a long time, you could have muscle fibrosis, which doesn't absorb things as fast