Like Starting Strength of Strong Lifts, which both have your squatting every workout
jordan (((feigenbaum))) on the right
>>75605133Starting Strength peaked in popularity about 15 years ago because millennial soibois tried to compensate for their microplastic infused bones by growing shitty beards and lifting as much weight as possible.
>>75605157imagine thinking "lifting as much weight as possible" is an effective slur on a fitness boardplease leave, faggot
>>75605133Since forever. The popularity of other lifts (notably bench) has gone up in the past 50 years and chipped away at squats a little, but squats have been the cornerstone of lifting since before the barbell was even invented.
>builds ass and legs, something attractive on both sexes>Cornerstone of sports and athletic improvement>Boosts test by working large muscle groups >Makes everything better with core gainsGee I dunno
>>75605133Because all athleticism and every sport (that isnt for faggots) requires either a strong back, legs or both
>>75605133Squatting is good for you but unless you compete in PL you should absolutely never squat like the op pic
>>75605133It's 100% because of starting strength, which became a hyped up meme in the late 00's through the 10's with dozens of copycat programs like 70's big lp, stronglifts, greyskull, etc trying to cash in on the trend. SS itself is a bastardisation of a 70's football peaking program where lower body strength and power is vital
>>75605133SS and SL are based on offseason American Football programming, which was popularised for general strength training by Bill Starr in the 50s. For players on the line of scrimmage lower body strength and stability are hugely important so the squat was the lift of choice.It's also self-fulfilling to an extent due to how the relationship between intensity, volume and frequency affects progression in beginners. With beginners, the actual intensity of big lifts such as the squat and deadlift is pretty low even at high relative 1rm percentage. That means, in programming terms, you need to have higher volume or frequency to push progress at the quickest rate possible. Beginners generally struggle with high volume, amd you don't want them absolutely smoked when they have their sport-specific sessions, which leaves frequency as the next lever to pull.Since most people find squats a bit easier to recover from and a bigger squat will usually improve deadlift strength as well, squats take the first spot as the lift to progress quickest. So it's programmed in as often as the programme allows, i.e every session.
>>75605177>imagine thinking "lifting as much weight as possible" is an effective slur on a fitness boardIt's absolutely an effective slur if you're short-chaning the RoM (not going ATG), using momentum, using easier levers (eg sumo squatting).
>>75605229>Because all athleticismThe people pushing these programs aren't athletic>strong backWouldn't that be an argument for a program that emphasizes pull-up/chin-up centric at least as much as squats?
>>75605546none of this matters if you are simply lifting heavier
nerds were ashamed of their weak bench press maxes compared to the gym bros. a lot of common advice early on in the internet fitness industry was that you didn't need to specifically work arms too.
>>75605133It started with Olympic weightlifting lifts. I agree that the deadlift is the real test of brute strength
>>75605133Because squats are the king of leg exercises.
>>75605546>short-chaning the RoM>sumo squattingNeither of which SS preaches. Zoomers are so fucking dumb.
>>75605677>Neither of which SS preacheshttps://startingstrength.com/training/going-too-deep-in-the-squat
>>75605563It matters for hypertrophy.
>>75605229I always felt like heavy squats and dls were actually sabotaging my speed and overall mobility when I was still doing some sportssome medium weight squats done every once in a while are probably fine
>>75605133Squatting looks gay desu. I prefer to leg press, lunge and do isolations. 90% of the time I see people doing heavy squats it's fat powershitters
>>75606734If you take it to ridiculous extremes maybe, but sprinters, track cyclists, football players (both burger and european) are all very strong squatters compared to the general gym-going population, but you cant JUST squat and expect to be explosive, it needs to be supplemented with other work.>>75605708>>75605546>Hmm you might be moving 3 times the weight I am, but can you go le ass to grass?!You are not Clarence, this is gay nerd cope
>>75605546Shouldve just taken the L
>>75605133Agreed, which muscle does it even work?
>>75605133>whenHonestly it's a newfag thing, squats were always a part of lifting, but the focus has only been recent within twenty years.>whyBecause people are retarded.
>>75606843>You are not ClarenceDo you not know that Tom Platz squatted ass-to-grass?
>>7560700290% of the time I see someone of average to tall height try ATG squats it's some dyel dweeb lifting 1pl8 with massive butt wink or otherwise major positional flaws that will prevent him from building his squatyou are probably this person, aka someone that goes to the gym but doesn't lift
>>75607013>90% of the time I see someone of average to tall height try ATG squats it's some dyel dweeb lifting 1pl8 with massive butt wink or otherwise major positional flaws that will prevent him from building his squatDo you help those people when you see them or do you just criticize and judge silently like a woman? I have a gut feeling it's the latter.
>>75605133It started with JC Hise getting massive gains on a 20 rep breathing squat program and the qrd on why squats are consistently recommended generation after generation is because they work.
>>75607002You are not him either, as >>75607013 said 90% of lifters do not have the femur proportions and hip flexibility to squat ATG without it turning to a giant pile of shit as soon as any real weight is added, and I know because I used to be one of them, constantly re-setting to sub-2plate to "work on form" and all that other gay, perma-novice shit.
>>75607020>Do you help those people when you see themNo, I only help people who ask for it
>>75605546Holy fuck you sound like the biggest virgin ever.
>>75605546>Making up rules to feel better about your sub 2 pl8 squatKek, this really is excellent bait. Just in case it's not>Not going atg is short changing the ROMThis is cope, if you squat for performance then atg is often not the right decision outside of a hypertrophy variant.>Using momentumYou mean the stretch reflex? That's cheating because?>Easier leversYou need to be built to sumo squat in order to squat more with sumo squatting. If what you said was true then everyone in powerlifting would squat with as wide a stance as possible raw, but most do not.
>>75607020No.a) why would I help them for freeb) even if I did, most people are stubborn and too full of themselves to be able to receive adviceyou have to prove you're sentient first, which means self awareness. if you are self aware you know your lifting is fucked up and is likely to ask someone for help. I'll gladly help that person, the rest are entertainment.
>>75607143How can you squat with your head up your ass?
>>75605133Olympic Lifters kept saying that getting a Squat PR guarantees PR's across all lifts and now all the coaches believe it.
>>75606580Most bodybuilders do half squats
>>75607129>>75606832>No excuses
>>75606785Post lifts
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>>75605133Because doing a compound squat is practically a full body workoutBuilds your back, core and legs.Great combo
>>75605133I like squats simply for the fact that I can get a lot of my muscles going without taking up a bunch of time. It's effective and quick.
>>75608250most bodybuilders do half squats.
>>75608423Most bodybuilders aren't reaping the full benefit of squats
Starting strength is good bad but it's a lot better if you do high bar squats, rows instead of dabbling in oly for no reason, curls and skullcrushers from day one, and then get out as soon as Rip signs off on your intermediate status, rather than banging your head on the wall trying to squat 3 days a week and getting fat. Squatting thrice a week is fine at first and so is alternating bench and ohp. It won't t-rex you if you have any testosterone. But you should definitely hitt all the lifts at the same rate when you're an intermediate.
>>75608343Everything uses your back.
>>75607495Every real lift carries over to everything else. Even bicep curls done correctly develop your upper back which is always useful. Even just getting bigger biceps will make your bench easier because they're a huge contributor to the external rotation and bracing of the shoulders.But squats are what people notice because most men are beta males making them lower body dominant.
>>75608250Squatting like that only makes sense for a guy with his build. Add some length to his legs and imagine trying to get into that position without significant forward bend in your back—you’d have to have uncanny heel flexibility to make that work. Or you’re tilting backwards. Going just below parallel is still the best option for most people.
>>75605546Anything under 90 degress is fine. Just having heavy weights supported by your back is a stimulus. Hyper focusing on form and tempo is what DYELs do, it's them coping for being weak.
>>75608741>and then get out as soon as Rip signs off on your intermediate statusThat's the whole point of the programme, you physically can't run it properly once you can't progress every session
>>75608741I had pretty good results with SS. I think it's biggest weakness is the lack of upper body volume. I hit a plateau really fast on bench and OHP and only adding more work allowed me to keep progressing on those
>>75605133SS had genius viral marketing and incels ate it up. Since all experters of the 2010s simply parroted /fit/ and bb.com memes, heavy squatting became the only acceptable workout.
>>75605190>but squats have been the cornerstone of lifting since before the barbell was even invented.lol millennial spotted
>>75605571More like nerds were, as always, searching for something exotic to obsess about that set them above the "normies", and since nobody would normall do squats, they clung to SS.
>>75607020>Oh no you can't judge that's disrespectfulFuck off pajeet
>>75605571>>75609014This is literally the reason. Now squats have become so normgroid coded that it's hard to even imagine a lot of gyms didn't even have power racks back then.
>>75608250He did squats for quad hypertrophy. Rip's low bar squats are intended to strengthen the posterior chain and work on the stabilizing capacity of the body. He explains this in his book.
>>75609061Young people don't know how unequipped gym used to be.
>>75609011Retard spotted>>75609061>>75609014>>75609008Post numbers and/or physique you swarthy twinks
>>75605133Try squatting for once, you lazy piece of shit.
>>75609081>>75608351>>75608343>>75605591>>75605229>>75605219But why do squats every workout? Does that make more sense than pull ups every workout?
>>75609182>He didn't read the bookBecause you can recover from it easily as a beginner and they cover so much musculature. You also do deadlifts every session (at least on SS) until you have established your deadlift far ahead of your squat. There's also some stuff about squats being the driving force for NLP from Rip's end.
>>75609182>But why do squats every workout?Because you can, and the idea of SS is to make as much linear progression as possible as quickly as possible.>pullups every workoutNobody's stopping you from doing that, but progression schemes for beginners with pullups aren't quite as retard proof.
>>75605241>answers op's question in a reasonable, articulate way>0 responsesIt's ok, I notice you
>>75609024Retard.
