Who is /fat/ for?For diligent dieters who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros) or LoseIt (great for both).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>75697530
>>75701275>same fucking pic for yearsare you still fat? kek
I'm going on the jordan peterson diet, 5 months only eating steak. Watch me transform into the greek god I was always meant to be.
Water weight fluctuations seem to have been a lot less since I started taking a nightly epsom salt bath Not something I was expecting from it but noticing it now
>>75701275>get on antidepressants >food cravings go away>motivated to exercise
>>75701275be meacquire stomach virusfeel like shit for 2 weekscan't eat anything besides small pieces of bread or soupafter 1 monthlose 20 lbsget meds to feel better2ez
Tomorrow's cardio day, gonna try a different gym for variety and then do some groundhopping. WAGMI
>>75701313Damn, I can't even go outside there is 2 feet of snow and ice. All I can do is hop around my living room.
>>75701319jumping jacksjump ropeburpees
>>75701295It actually would work if you take some basic supplements to be fair
>>75701295Do a lipid panel before, during and after going through with this super good idea.If you don't feel like tempting the Gods' wrath, greek or otherwise, wash down each and every steak with big tall glass of psyllium husk slurry.
>>75701346Nah fiber is a meme, it doesn't do anything and probably hurts you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFv04wcBt4g
Just put a pound of bacon in the oven. My next 3 meals. Meal planning has never been easier.
>>75701358No, fiber is not a meme, unlike an all-steak diet.It's fine. Go be super healthy in spite of a sinister fiber conspiracy trying to keep you down, I guess.
I'm a a calorie deficit, like a definite deficit (I've given up chocolate, most carbs, meal portions have shrunk by like 2/3), exercise has increased dramatically (1k run, 1k walk) + sport for more than an hour.No change on scales after 3 weeks? When should I be concerned
>>75701319Do weightless squats anon, that will definitely get your heart rate up. Also can build some leg and core muscle.
>>75701400You should be concerned that you are lying to yourself. Or maybe your bf is giving you a bacon fat enema in your sleep.
>>75701446NTA but if you used bacon grease as lubricant would you absorb calories?
>>75701400>No change on scales after 3 weeks?Yeah, double check your TDEE, calculate it as sedentary, cut an additional 500kcals off your deficit and see if that works.
>>75701295Sounds like a great way to give yourself the gout.
>>75701319Go shovel the snow, that's a workout right there.
>>75701521You have no idea what you are talking about, there are whole societies that live primarily off of meat. Eating meat does not give you gout.
>>75701400>>75701484And check your oil and butter and portion sizes
Well dinner was really good and I ended up eating more than I wanted to. I feel shame, but my body feels so good. Unfortunately I know that's just >carbs and fat make brain go brrrr
5'10 and 242 poundsI do my 20k steps everday but I wanna start jogging.I do not wanna fuck up my knees, should I lose more weight before I jog?Thanks
>>75701577Yes, just go swimming instead. You should not be jogging/running before you are your ideal weight. Even then it's not good for you but at least it's not as bad.
>>75701577Yes. Get a gym membership and do the elliptical as a training start point if you really want cardio to be running, or a stationary bike. Or swim i guess that works too and burns a shit ton but it's full body exercise.
>>75701595Can I burn calories fast by swimming?I get an extra 900 or so calories a day burned doing my 20k steps, but that's 3+ hours.I'd like to burn this many calories in 2 hours or less.
>>75701629Maybe
>>75701629Well first off, its very difficult to estimate just how many calories you're actually burning through exercise. Your app might say you burned 900 calories but you could have burned anywhere from 450~1200, the only way to know for certain is to get a CO2 analysis on what you exhaled while working out.
>>75701629Do you see any fat professional swimmers? Have you ever tried swimming faster than a dog paddle? It is serious exercise.
>>75701633Here's Tuesday where I managed it even with a serious sweet tea wrench thrown in. I also had a fuck up yesterday because that same person got me the sweet tea and fries and had already paid for it and I'm a weenie. But, 1400cal 116g of protein. And it'd be more if I was making my own dinner for just me that night. >>75701584Tf you mean you've got a core like a damn apple! A trunk like an oak, devil! You really mean to say it's not that much work and you're just a super responder?
>>75701442Ty, I view it as a compliment. Goal weight is to get to a leaner 170lbs than when I think I was in my best overall shape at about 17% bf, shooting for 10% bf this time which means I need to gain about 30lbs of muscle. I tried the strong fat retard routine and messed it up. I am going for lean pilled this time.
>>75701629Swimming is excellent exercise, you will burn more swimming laps than walking thats for sure.As other anons said, exactly how much more is a bit harder to say.
Shame I have an outdoor pool, its fucking 39°F right now, I'm not fucking swimming in that
>>75701400Yeah that's not normal, double check everything.
Day 3 nofood.It's a struggle, but nothing compared to the struggle my skeletal system has been put through for the past two decades.
People always have an opinion when you start losing weight. No one cares if you are morbidly obese and eat sugar all ay but once you start losing weight peole are immediately warning you about dangers of weight loss
>>75701891They're terrified of the competition. Without the weight you'd simply be too powerful.
>>75701874At least drink a glass of milk with a couple scoops of protien powder. Fasting eats away at your muscle as much as it does your fat, especially if you're not lifting during the fast. If you're not lifting you should be, it helps prevent your body from capitalizing your muscle.Its a lot harder to build muscle than. It is to lose fat, fasting generally isn't worth it no matter how fast you want the weight off. It's not about just dropping lbs it's about dropping lbs of fat.
>>75701894My 4 incher is actually 2 feet it's just hidden. I'm going to a pornstar god once I lose 300lbs.
>>75701915same except saved for just one special girl and only once we're married
>>75701891My family doesn't care at all. Not sure if their apathy is better than the antipathy you're getting or not.
>5'10 and weigh 87kgFeels like shit man
>>75701925Is that good or bad? I don't understand bing bong numbers.
>>757019271kg = 2.2lbs
>>75701925Where did you start? That's not far from a healthy weight.
Missed the transition, but I fell into Class II Obese.My goal for this year has been 100kg, but I think I'm going to adjust it to 98kg so I can fall into the overweight class.
>>75701927190lbs>>75701936I have only just begun this month, no progress yet since work is taking over all my time.I was 77kg at the end of 2023 and last year just seemed to shit all over me in a lot of different ways.
had a great day, but had wine while out to dinner with my parents, and now i'm going to binge. ngmi
>>75701927Indeed. Pick a lane people: Go with standard boring metric units, or go with whimsical fantasy units used by hobbits and elves. Not good can come from mixing the two.
>>75701915I mean the penis-reveal is real thoughMy 5-incher turned into 6 and 3/4thsPotentially 7 by the time I reach goal weight
Fat people should be rounded up and put in camps until they are healthy weight. Our government tax dollars are being mismanaged.
>>75702081>another fatty somehow had a 7" monster cock under his fat all alongOkay. sure.
>>75701874>FastingRetard
>>75702089
>>75702090Yeah I know i used to think the same thing looking at dick-talk threads with every single poster saying they were well above average and I'd post about my fiver at the timeTo be fair you gotta bonepress super hard to get the measurement so in practicality it's probably still just 6 or under, in either case the visual improvement is very noticeable
I guess this is it, my first cheat day. It’s my sister’s birthday so my dad and I took her out for Korean bbq. Damn that shit was delicious. About to have one (1) slice of cake. >image of food cooking was too large to upload
>>75702141>He doesn't measure butt to tipNgmi
>>75702142feet pics of said sister?
>>75702157
>>75701275what's going on with the nun lolis in this one? They're stressing out because... their glasses prescription isn't correct? Those are They Live type glasses and they just saw the Jew?And that little blonde one needs to chill the fuck out.
>hands keep dyingWhat does it mean? do I lack bloodflow?
I lost a bunch of fat last summer and stopped in the fall because I wanted to focus more on building muscle. I'm currently sitting at 205lbs but I was at 195lbs in the weeds of the cut. I still have some belly fat and fat around my thighs but I imagine this next cut should eliminate that once I incorporate more cardio and lower calories. I get anywhere from 10k-18k steps a day due to my job. I wanna start swimming again because I used to do that a lot when I was a kid and that was the last time I could see my abs. The only gym near me with a pool is la fitness and they're expensive.Also gonna do a day burning stack I found out about because I wanna be shredded by mid to end of this summer. I don't care if it's dangerous I haven't been confident enough to get naked in years
>>75702220So did your lifts improve this year?
If you don't know how you killed the apathy then how will you know how to keep the apathy from creeping back in
>>75702229Yeah, but it's nothing super impressiveBench is 245 can probably do 250 but I don't have a spotter and I get scared of dropping the weight. 225 is just challenging enough for me to do 3 reps which is cool because 90lbs was the most I could do when I started lifting.Squat is 300, I have bad knees from a bad accident years ago so I don't do super heavy squats Shoulder press is 140, again nothing crazy but 135 was a struggle for me for a long timeI can bang out 12 strict pullups now before stopping Deadlift is 320Like I said nothing to brag about but these are huge improvements for me
>>75702337>but I don't have a spotterSpotters are a meme and shouldn't be used. Bench with safeties, with properly set up safeties its nearly impossible to injure yourself benching. You can safely push yourself to failure without fear and your safeties aren't going to get distracted and drop the weight like a spotter can.
>>75702337>Wants to look good>Trains like a powerlifterMan not even trying to be a dick, but compound lifts don't build a good physique. Treat your isolations like compounds, progress them and go heavy. Deadlift for example does a shitty job at training glutes hamstrings forearms erectors and traps. You'd be better off ditching them for RDLs for posterior chain and shrugs for traps. Compounds "hit" a bunch of different muscles, but that's totally different than actually stimulating growth. Just my two cents
>>75702337And yeah I'm upper body dominant. I need to work on my legs and back more
>>75702142is it really cheat day if it's a special occasion?I just fast the next day and boom, back on track
>>75702369I was under the impression that those were the lifts to measure your strength by. All of those lifts were pretty light when I started. My workout per week is as followsSunday: legs/backMonday:chest/shouldersTuesday:arms/absWednesday:legs/backThursday:chest/shouldersFriday:arms/backI wouldn't say I train like a powerlifter but I could be wrong, this is just the thing that has given me the most results. I could be completely wrong though
>>75702399Sorry Friday is arms/abs that was a typo
>>75702351Yeah you're right. I feel like those safety's get in the way though. Maybe I'm just retarded
>>75702399Fair enough, I just think strength standards don't really mean anything on compound lifts. I think strength standards on things like skull crushers, preacher curls, etc mean much more. I deadlifted 495, squat was 350 bench 235(lol I know) and didn't even look "jacked" the last two months I've actually trained for "hypertrophy" and put on more size than the first 6 months of training combined
>>75702411You only need to bring your elbows parallel touching the bar to your chest for the rep to count is just a powerlifter thing and it actually increases the chance of a shoulder injury.
Lost a bunch of weight late last year, barely reaching normal-weight territory. Been taking a (planned) break from weightloss for a little over 2 weeks now, no tracking at all and have had alcohol, sodas, sweets etc. Though I avoided ever stuffing myself. Got on the scale and I haven't gained a single pound somehow.For the bad news I did injure myself in such a way that I can't do upper body, which makes me hesistant to lose weight as I don't want muscle loss. Plan is now to maintain or maybe a tiny deficit while healing and planning next steps.
>>75702414Yeah I have been focusing more on hypertrophy and not so much on heavy lifts. I just like to check how heavy I can lift every few weeks to see where I'm at. I typically keep the weight light enough to do 8 reps but some lifts, like arms or abs, I tend to do more reps.
first binge since late november and im chillingdoritos cupcakes chocolate fried chicken bitestook me reaching 140 to realise weight loss is gay
>>75702452140 stone?
10 days in, should i end my fast
>>75701913>I'm fasting >At least drink a glass of milkActual retard.>>75702110>RetardLiteral anti fast bot post. Kys or post body. >>75702474>10 days in, should i end my fastThat's up to you. Good work either way.
>>75701874and its nothing compared to the struggle you'll face when you're forced to learn actual eating habits instead of doing meme diets made for religious monks who beg for alms
>>75702560Fasting is retarded, you are a retard. Just drink two protein shakes or something to get amino acids in. There's nothing magical about le fasting besides a calorie deficit which you can achieve a huge deficit with a protein only diet. There are so many downsides to it from a muscle mass standpoint, hormone profile standpoint and it leads to binging.
>>75702602Nice time stamp fatass.
>>75702604When I post one with a time stamp will you reciprocate with timestamped picture?
>>75702452i can eat any of those things while still losing weight because im not addicted and understand portion control
>>75702605Not really, I'm fat obviously and don't pretend to be fit. I'm waiting btw
I just want to gorge myself like a starving animal
>>75702620create a deficit today so you may eat more tomorrow.
>>75701275Someone wanna explain to me what's with the nun op's?
>>75702652cute nuns and their fat ducks who sometimes try to lose weight
>>75702474140lbs. Thought weight loss would make my life better, just realised I'm still ugly and miserable. I even moved out thinking I could get and bring a gf over now my mom wont let me move back in with her and I'm paying a landlord to be even more lonely and miserable than when I was a fatty living with my mom. I'm ordering enough opioid/benzos off the darkweb to kms, my life is irreparable
>>75702652it's been explained a million times.it's cute.a lot of drawings are about gluttonyfat ducksnunnery = disciplineit's symbolic almost
>>75702614Fasting is retarded. You are looking for some magic bullet to le cheat the system. Very low calorie diets work, and periods of only protein diets work for like 700 to 900 calories. Not eating for 48 hours and sitting in front of the computer burning no calories then crushing 7k calories in your binge is just dumb. Go make a fasting general. Incline walking 3x fullbody and a high protein calorie deficit is and will always be the key to losing weight and gaining or at least maintaining muscle mass
>>75702666what did you weigh at your fattest
>>75702656Well you sound like you have your mind made up but that's a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I hope you don't bro
>>75702668260lbs at 6ft tall. I'm 180 now so down 80lbs
>>75702666>666Yup your a dishonest anti fast shill of some kind and digit confirm. Why are you even here? And are you the autist who spends 8 hours a day responding to every fasting related post with "retard"? Because I was convinced you were a bot. Also it's pretty egotistical to just assume your opinion on fasting is the end all be all of fasting as a diet form.
>>75702684I think you are suffering from schizophrenia bruddah. What are you talking about bots and shills? >assume your opinionIt's not my opinion, everyone with a brain knows fasting isn't the way to lose weight
>>75702656you're not ugly dude just average at worst. lose the glasses, get a better haircut, maybe try growing a beard, and you'll look above average. you're decently tall and have a friendly face too. use those advantages.but I also know the feeling of being backed into a corner. my advice is to wait out the storm and try to keep the damage to a minimum.
>>75702690Are we really gonna pretend this site isn't flooded with bots and shills? Okay "anon". I'm done here.
>>75702690lol he realized he lost hard when you posted the timestamp. good shit.
>>75702709You got me, I work for big protein shake, I'm trying to keep anons fat by recommending they drink two shakes a day instead of fasting. I've been exposed again, gosh dang it!Since you have the floor, do you mind a quick explanation of why you believe fasting is superior
>>75702690> the wayThis is where you went wrong - thinking that there is only one way. Clearly there are many ways, with different pros and cons. Which way to choose is dependent on both the goals of the person but also their personality, what they are psychologically able to do.
i'm scared that if i break my fast i'll go back to eating maintenance
>>75702715I didn't lose shit. There is in fact a literal bot that responds to EVERY post about fasting with "retard" and SOMEONE had to set it up for a reason. So forgive me if I don't trust some big fish in a little pond fit guy who for no real reason ALSO seems to respond to every fasting related post with something negative to say. It's bullshit. Also there's no way in fuck Mr fit guy who seems to hate fasting has ever tasted himself so who the fuck is he to be an authority on it? Kill yourself faggot. Why the fuck are you even here? To discredit effective forms of weight loss? Go shit up the lifting threads if your so goddamn fit. Cocksucker.
>>75702725I'd say it's the most effective for a multitude of reasons. High protein to retain and build lean mass. Which in turn increases BMR speeding up fat loss. 3x fullbody because beginners can grow off very low volume with little damage so frequency can be high (3x a week) and incline walking because it burns a decent amount of calories while being the easiest form of cardio to recover from. You are right that there are other ways, but fasting is probably the worst way possible. GN frens wagmi
>>75702741>has ever tasted himselfThat's a lie, one time after NNN I did taste myself by accident because I wasn't expecting it to travel so far
>>75702741It's ok babe, don't cry.
>>75702741>FastingRetard
Fatty Contest TheObeseBrit 258.8lbs
>>75702656Great accomplishmentYou need to learn to style yourself now I will too, I was realizing a bit over the halfway point that I've never been able to think about clothes and style before because I just needed to find shit I could fit in at all, now that I can buy clothes at regular shops again I don't know what to do and end up looking like an overgrown high schoolerIt's not over unless you let it be, just different areas of life that need improvement that reveal themselves as we improve the others
>>75702089>nanny statenah keep them fat and dumb it serves my purposes and they don't mind being treated like cattle
>>75702656I'm with you man, I think you legit look worse thin. How much lifting did you do?
>>75702780>finally get out of obese class 2>Fatty Contest is broken and won't updateThe pain.......
>>75702431>>75702411It's not a powerlifter thing.Proper form is retracting your shoulder blades in and using your traps to help stabilize yourself for maximum chest engagement. This usually involves bringing your chest up(and in turn, your upper back is pushed into the bench)and then lifting at an angle. Most shoulder injuries comes from flaring out your shoulders, not the depth of your lift.this video best describes ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYKScL2sgCs
>>75701287The og /fat/OP is probably some kind of next-level /fph/er, my guess is either a bariatric specialist or something similar. Also I like the nun comics, the ducks being fat fucks and going on diets/exercising is a central theme.
>>75701521You get gout if you wash down a ridiculous amount of red meat with an equally ridiculous amount of booze, animal fat, and sugar, AKA the EBT diet. One or two steaks a day won't do shit.
Belly go down?
>>75702899I get dimples in my belly around my belly button before it goes down. In dimple mode atm.
>>75702899Belly grew over 2kg over the holidaysTime to get back on track
>be retarded>fall for the meme primal diet thing>try to eat raw meat>tastes like shit>try to drink blood>tastes like iron and almost puke>try organs>tastes like shit especially liver
>>75702942Lmao, just eat normal tard.
>>75701927USA still uses metric system anon, but in the background for now, and they swap metric units in imperial units just to make you more comfortable in your childish system. Use feet and spoons for measurement instead of objective units like a child but it will change eventually and you will not be ready when it will happen.
The great whooshing is happening
AHHHHHHH FIX THE FATTY CONTEST
>>75702942there's a reason that most organs need to be soaked for hours or days, especially the organs that treat waste like the liver and the kidneys
>>75701521>Sounds like a great way to give yourself the gout.American education.
If I just never eat again then scale will go down. This is a full proof plan.
>>75697927Update from yesterdays 239.4. Todays Weigh in 238.6lbs, total loss so far 8.8lbs.
>>75703127All water weight
>>75703129That's fine. As long as im also losing 1-2lbs per week it's worth it.
>>75703127i hope you join fattycontest.and don't worry about the retards saying "water weight". that's the most obvious thing. You're losing fat, and that's the important part.
Fatty ContestNevaagain92.2kg
>>75703137Hes losing water weight
>>75703154i think you might be retarded
>>75703160I think you might be coping
>>75703164i think you need brain surgeryif he's eating only 800 kcal a day then he's probably pissing his weight away, so yeah, call that water weight, nigger
>fatty contest is deadnot like this bros...
>>75703170You are extremely insecure. Eat less fatty.
>>75703180i wanna see you drown in your own water weight
Jesus said if you trust His words, you can't ever go to Hell, and are then are already passed from death forever:24. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.>John 5:24
cum your calories
>>75703294how much calories does mastubation burn
Fatty ContestWinnie112.8kg
>haven't eaten in 3 days>first time ever>stand up and almost pass outIt's like being drunk without the calories.
>>75703324>FastingRetard
>>75703462>needing caloriesngmi
Today my fat personality cravings gone completely.
>>75703462Funnily enough, without the breakup for meal times it makes the day feel slower.
>not fastingretard
Diet soda is the cheat code
>>75703495They are just lying dormant, only to wake up and fuck you in the ass when you stop caring
>>75702656You're wearing the same t-shirt as when you were a fatty. Get some better fitting clothes so you can feel good about your new physique.
Fatty ContestHecatomb241.4lbsLost a ton over a day! I attribute it to deadlifting and squatting yesterday and only having a small dinner
>>75702656I can't be the only one
>>75703564Nah, plenty of crabs in the bucket.
>>75703569Grow up crab schizo
Today is a GREAT day for a hike See ya
I lost 13 kg(154 to 141) and i dont see any diffrence in my appearance.I look exactly the same and my clothes arent baggy on me or anything.I dont feel like im actually losing any weight but my scale says i am.
>>75703746Guess it's time to give up and eat 10 large pizzas
>>75703746Stay with it man, that's all that mattersBut yeah unless Ur super huge, you would expect to notice sum differences after 10kg, maybe use someone or something else to check your scales are working.
>>75703746You will lose weight from your arms, legs, ass etc long before you lose the gut size. So it wont be as obvious. I started at 155kg currently 117kg. All my limbs are skinny as fuck now but i still have a belly and boobas.
>>75703746Let's say at that weight you will only shrink 1cm squared dimensionally with 13kg. But next 13kg will be 1.5cm squared and will be more apperant
>>75703779Happening to me too. I actually feel like I've hit a point where my stomach looks WORSE now because everything else is getting smaller
>>75703547You think maybe wearing the same t-shirt for that picture was a choice he made to demonstrate how baggy that t-shirt now looks compared to when he was a fatty?
>>75703798Yeah it's not fun, almost feels like my gut is somehow bigger because of the comparison to the rest of me now.
>>75702656>Get hair transplant>Get laser eye surgery>Hit the gymLiterally that easy
>>75703779This happened to me too, gut isn't much smaller but trousers that were becoming difficult to wear because my legs were getting fatter now fit normally again. Still the same waist but my legs don't feel like they're about to explode out of them.
>cashier at the grocery store recognized me and said I've lost weight and I'm looking good.
BINGE ATE LIKE A RETARD LAST NIGHT FUCK IM GONNA KILL MYSELF
>>75703831Always count your calories.ALWAYS.AAAAAALWAYS.
>>75703306between 15 ~120 depending on how vigorously you masturbated and your load size
>>75703831U did the crime on you gotta the time- FAST
>>75703527>FastingRetard
>>75703831How bad we talking? How many cals.
>>75703840>FastingRetard
>>75703812>Get hair transplant>Last January 360 lbs, full head of lush healthy hair>This January 215lbs, balding rapidly, very thin and stringy hair with visible scalpIts like all my hair abandoned ship as soon as I started dieting. Part of me is hoping it'll come back once I start eating maintenance, but I guess that's just wishful thinking and I'll need transplants.
>>75703864>100lbs down>Hair as thick as everSkill issue
>>75703866
>>75703870I've been taking Collagen Peptides Powder the entire time so maybe that worked or maybe it's a meme who knows. I also just have a god tier hairline.
>>75703855~ 3000 to 4000 at leastI think I will fast today and then get back to my stupid chicken and broccoli life on Sunday
>>75703872I started taking them when I was about 40lbs down and already thinning. Didn't seem to change the rate I was losing hair at all. I heard creatine can make some people lose their hair and I started taking that when I started dieting since I also started lifting at the same time, maybe that's what did it. Either way its pretty miserable how I look now, I look at my before picture and kinda wish I could go back. Balding really does make men look like shit.
>>75703876>3k - 4kBarely even a binge, you'll be fine.
>>75701868Pickled beetroot has a sugar in it. I didn't even consider these pickled things as food with calories since I thought "ehh vegetables, and the japanese eat this so must be fine".Keeping proper track of things is indeed not as simple as one might think.Not sure how trustworthy the labels are on most things either so I'm starting to heavily prefer meals with as little ingredients as possible and each being some basic shit like potatoes, eggs or something instead of any pre-canned concoction, conditement, mix or broth you use.It's hard, wish my parents or grandparents knew a damn about this and taught me instead of having to figure shit out now. Then again, better now at 30 than later at 40...
>>75703939>Not sure how trustworthy the labels are on most things eitherthey can be off by as much as 20% in either direction.
>>75702656You have a good foundation, just get a bit more muscle to fill in what the fat left empty.Congrats on the weight loss bro, it's proof of your first victory. Go get your next.Also ignore retards telling you to get surgery for your hair/eyes. You just need to find a style that is more suitable to you.>>75702785 this is the best reply here.
>>75702089And education throughout all levels. Squash fatty logic before it can take route, offer ACTUALLY healthy options at school, every so often have events that involve their fat parents and shame them for killing their kids. No fucking HAES shit no hippie fraud nutritionists, just well up to date no nonsense registered dietitian and doctors. With the older kids you can talk about eating disorders, including binge eating. >well Rachel says she only eats pizza and cookies and she's super skinny so it's genetics! (They don't know i know this trick)>honey is Rachel an aggressively competitive anorexic that doesn't feel she's succeeding unless her friends are failing? Do you ever ACTUALLY see her eat? Does she go to the bathroom right after? Does she eat a ton on a day you hang out but you just don't see her eat for days after? Or maybe she doesn't actually mean to tell others her weight is magic and she doesn't realize she walks several miles a day and does vigorous exercise during [girl sportball] training or track. >But I eat nothing at all and I'm really fat!>IsThatSo.Wav>pull up the chart gents! >>75701868Little kid nutrition coukd be very fun. Hey kids we're having a food test day! It'll be fruit day so everyone let's write down our favorite fruit and then pick a fruit from this big colorful chart you'd like to try! Fruit is a loooot more than just apples and strawberries! A ripe mango tastes just like candy, stardust is yummy and a fun shape, guava tastes tart with tons of vitamins! Next food test day we'll be trying the different ways to cook and enjoy broccoli, there's more than just boiled!
>>75702090I got fat after 20 so I already had a 6.5" pp, he just kinda went away under my fat.
>>75702212I'm sorry, come again?
>>75701275lift moreyour bitch fuck a china dickfuck it and starve
>>75702605Oh boy I love this game
>>75703972>don't get surgery to replace your hair and fix your eyes because......If he has the money why shouldn't he? Stupid faggot.
>>75702656>>75702703No uh, no... I'm sure he's been told a lot, but his face abd posture say something of acute fetal alcohol syndrome or moderate to severe autism. You can still counteract that by adding muscle, join a gym and after you've started seeing g regulars just chat and make friends, go volunteer at an animal shelter or gardens or some shit
>>75702741Bold of you to assume he's the only one that posts fasting=retard.
Eat cabbages, bros, the shit just slides off my asshole, no forcing or anything, felt good as fuck. Also, it's great for filling space on your plate, 200gr is literally just 50kcal, fills you up, keeps the hunger away, and it's tasty and crunchy.
>>75703864Do you take vitamins?
>>75704207
>>75704266Thats just expensive piss. Eat real food for vitamins
Imagine not fasting and losing all your weight under a year
>>75704282Define veggies
>>75704266>tracking supplementsMental illness
>>75704266Why americans takes their medication in candy form
>>75704318Sounds good but go easy on onions if you want to keep it keto
>>75704086Risks outweigh the benefits. LASIK is a scam.The hair implantation is also a fag meme.
>>75704359You are just a poor insecure faggot. I've had LASIK and my eyes are perfect.
Fatty Contesttimetolockin198.66
>>75703876>get back to my stupid chicken and broccoli lifeNIGGA thats why most fatasses wont make it and will relapse sooner or lateryour lifestyle and eating habits need to change, "going on a diet" shouldnt mean that you restrict yourself to shit that you hate to eat and once you lost weight go back to eating junk all day but rather eat less of the things youre already eating, 80% clean-ish food, 20% maybe not so clean OCCASIONALLYclean food doesnt have to taste like shit, even if youre a cooklet. learn to season your food, try eating chicken thighs skinless/boneless, lean beef mince or steak if you dont like either, maybe add fish, swap out your vegetables of choice AND LEARN TO FUCKING SEASON YOUR FOOD or get light/zero sauces if you have the money etc etc, thousands of possibiliteslearn to cook and/or stop being a fucking child if you cant enjoy other foods that arent fast food slop/candy whateverits the same shit all the timeall of this on top of regularly exercising, which in the long term MUST be something you enjoy doing, it doesnt matter what it is or else it will failwhen will people get it?
>>75704388>Bro trust me i know what i'm talking about>Also i'm 400lbs bro
>>75704371Yeah yeah. I'm sure you didn't get AIDS from your nigger boyfriend either.
>>75704416I bet you still live at home with your parents don't you kek
183 cm 108kg, 1200-1500 kcal a day clean,cheat meal once in 2 weeks. Lost 3.5kg last month. Gym 3 times a week. Mainly full body workout and some incline treadmill walking.Let's see how long until I plateau
Fatty ContestBig Frigate244 lbs
Back on the fuckin trainFatty ContestGoodJoe231 lbs
>>75704480>gained 14lbs>back on it
>>75704491maybe he’s charting his dirty bulk x)
>>75704491“Back on” as in “getting back on”
>>75704537Why did you ever get off, you were still fat.
>>75704435You can always check anon instead of asking. The answer is no but generally one eats more tomatoes.Say you aim for 20mg carbs daily. One onion is half of that. A tomato is a quarter. So if your aim is very low carb levels/keto then you should be careful. If you don't want to go so low then they are fine, just avoid starchy veggies which you already not listed
>>75704543General laziness and dumbassery
>>75702673>that's a permanent solution to a temporary problemHey, bro, I came to fix the problem with the thing. Do you want a temporary solution or the permanent one?
Fatty contest Dresden 248.4lbsAnother big week. Ate pretty clean this week got in at least 11k steps a day and worked out everyday besides today. I'm going to try so hard this year bros it's unreal how locked in I feel. For the first time in a long time I've got goals and I I'm actively pursuing them.>get to 180lbs before 2026 >be more financially responsible >hopefully find future Mrs Dresden I made the mistake of texting an ex last night about what she ever saw in me and expected to get a bit of home truths to check my unwarranted ego. But all she did was gas me up with the exception of saying my temper was really bad, temper thing turned out to be a undiagnosed mental issue that I've simce had treated so I guess my week has been good.
How long after returning to maintenence/bulking does your sex drive go back up?I'm at a fairly large deficit(1500) so it's definitely affecting me.
>>75704591This post sure does read like a mentally ill person wrote it.
Fatty ContestSpazzmaticus163.2kgTwo kilo up. Expected worse from the holidays, honestly. Lets get back on track.
>>75704609>over 160kg in weightYou don't deserve to binge
>>75704609NGMI
Who is the biggest fatty in the history of the fatty Contest?
>>75704284>FastingRetard
Fatty ContestIWillDoItAgain93.7kg
>>75704704ur mom
>>75703876>FastingRetard
>>75704723>not fastingretard
hey anons im sure this has been said a lot but how much protein should i eat when losing weight to not look like a shriveled weakling by the time i reach my goal?
>>75704732You don't just eat protein, you need to work out you fat shit.
>>75704732You will NGMI anyway so pointless question
>>75704742i am working out im doing cardio and body weight exercises
Fatty ContestHealthy2026471.2
>>75704744i am going to make it, i have already lost 20lbs and now that im in the flow of things i want to start adding protien and more exercising
>>75704746Brother man you need to lift weights bodyweight is mostly a meme
>>75704756why? i dont want to get big i just want to be fit and lean
>>75704732Need height weight and how fat
>>75704757Okay, yeah, you'll get TOO big by lifting a weight.What a waste of time giving advice is.
>>757047625'8 299
>>75704749Whoa nelly you're a big one
>>75701988stopped my binge at maintenance. what's become of me. i used to be so good at binging.
>>75704766185 g of protein you need a lot in a deficit
>>75704765whatever this general is worthless i'll just go to google or reddit they unironically have better info than anything in this thread
>>75704773thanks anon
>>75704766Lmao midget
>>75704767Yep, but hopefully not for much longer
>>75704786That's the spirit. Keep pushing and YGMI bro!
>>75704786Out of interest, how did you get so big? What was your diet?
Supplements taken, protein drink drunk.
>>75704842Deficit status?
>>75704773That's 740 calories of pure protein, even if you get it from powder that's like 900 calories. You either gotta live off pure chicken breast or get 2/3rds of your daily calories from protein powder to hit that at like 1500 calories.
>>75704871And the problem with that is? You need protein and essential fats which isn't a ton. If you weigh 300lbs at 5'8 you don't need carbohydrates....Egg whites, boneless skinless chicken tenderloins, protein powder and cucumber or spinach is all you need
>>75704871So eat lots of Chicken breast then, duh.
when I flex my abdomen and press down I have about 1.5 cm until I hit the hard parthave I reached fit fat?
how do I become stronger than lets say 80% of men?I don't really feel like gym maxxing and being a buff nigga but I also want to kinda mogg people
Fatty ContestRaymo207.4 lbs
>>75704926You go the gym you stupid faggot.
>>75704936I don't like driving there every time I wanna work out so I just got a 20 pound kettle bell and started to lift, do squats and some swingsI'm gonna level up to a bigger kettle bell but do I need like one of those big weights you need a little bed for?
Is it possible you could have something which looks a little like gyno but it’s actually because you’re fat? And then when you lose weight it goes
>>75704838Took some time, I was always a little overweight my entire adult life and it kept creeping up. I used to work nights and would order fast food instead of actually eating properly. I would range from eating lots of "normal food" to large amounts of fast food. This put me into the delusion of thinking I needed calories and caffeine in huge amounts to function. It wasn't true, but it was a strong delusion. Before, I made progress losing weight with keto, but eventually gained it all back. Putting it back on had me wallowing in shame for quite some time. I'm in a better place right now, but there was a lot of pain involved in getting this big. I would argue people just don't get my size without serious issues. I've made serious progress working on them, hence why I'm actually on the downtrend. My big focus is working in a way that allows me to keep the weight off once I've lost it.
Fatty ContestInstallGentoo192.0 lb5'8"
>>75704871i eat around 1300 calories a day. this is an example of my macros from yesterday. 1190kcal, 182g protein. you can see usually around 60% of my daily calories come from just protein. 100g chicken breast, 28g beef jerky, tuna, whey powder, protein bar, yogurt, cottage cheese, some veg, sometimes some nuts, tends to be my daily diet to give you an example.
>>75704926>How do I become better than 80% of guitar players>I don't really like playing the guitar thoughstop making the rest of us fatties look bad with your room temperature IQ
Can I ask questions about my back routine here or should I make a new thread about it?
>>75705001You can ask but i don't know why you'd come to /fat/ and ask about that
>>75704997but I don't want to be a rock star I just want to be a semi-good guitaristIs there a normal distribution graph for muscle mass or how much someone can lift?I'll be satisfied when I'm better than a lot
>>75705009You are a very strange person
>>75705009Trust me, you're not going to become Arnold on accident by tripping over a dumbell at the gym.
>>75705009Are you the cringe guy who talks about mogging people all the time?
>>75704276I do eat real food, I take the supplements to make sure I'm getting everything.>>75704315>>75704345Cronometer makes it easy, just make a custom meal with all your daily vitamin supplements and you can add them all with a single tap.
>>75705088yes
>>75705095What is wrong with your brain, you post and talk like you think you're some kind of anime protagonist or something.
>>75705096undiagnosed aspergers probably
Is it better to do shitton of intense cardio to lose weight or keep 3x full body training and keep what little muscles you have after getting fat? 240lbs 6'1" or slowly introduce both but very afraid i'd overtrain and be dead on every workout and unergetic.
>>75705111Do both
>>75705111Exercise is not for losing weight, dieting is.
>>75705116It makes a noticeable difference to the deficit especially when you're still huge
>>75703834https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MC0G-Lbuuk
>>75705116Epic wisdom bro
>>75705140Maybe someone would listen to your wisdom if you wern't 500lbs
>>757050092/3/4/5 is going to mog 95% of all gym goers
>>75705116Retard exercise create additional caloric deficit, strength training keeps your muscles, cardio works on your stamina and heart health etc
Fatty ContestMoonya100.8kg165cm
>>75705150Yeah bro it is easier to burn 1000kcals a day doing cardio than it is to just eat 1000kcals less of food. Mong.
>>75705113But going all out 6 days a week in succession sounds like hell, both time wise and energy wise, just thinking how my body is and it might fail at some point from overtraining or become counterproductive.
>>75705143more like 99.9 at least where i live
>>75705159not saying you should do it back to back
>>75705159intense strength training, MODERATE cardio is the easiest and most sustainable for losing weight and keeping muscle, no point in going all out on cardio, it will wreck you and make your gym performance tank
>>75705143what does this mean?
>>75705158With exercise you burn 200-500 more on top, you dumb?
>>75705187One of us is dumb anon, try and figure it out.
>>75705180Yeah, I'll keep to incline walking, intense cardio is a "must" because it's prep for sport I'm going to return to later but better not fuck it all up now. Thanks
>>75705111Do both, but in terms of priorities Diet > lifting > cardioYour body will adapt to your activity level eventually, just get out there and lift and get some quality cardio in, eat and sleep well too. Don't worry about overtraining that shit is incredibly hard to pull off, you're almost certainly never going to hit that unless your spending 6+ hours everyday training.
>>75701275Where did the /fast/ threads go? I miss them. Long-term fasting really is the solution. Just don't eat! It's that simple.My gf doesn't understand--says it feels too much like anorexia to her. Very sad. Also holy shit 900 second captcha time? wtf. I remember why I stopped visiting this site
>>75705205>Long-term fasting really is the solution.No, it isn't.
>>75705111Raymo here. I started doing bodyweight workouts at home to get myself started at around 312 lbs. Started intense lifting at around 265 lbs at the gym. I do full body every other day (which is basically 3x a week) since that's what works with my schedule. I wouldn't worry about overtraining, just start with what you can and keep at it. I'm very glad I started lifting, I was losing muscle mass and now I'm keeping and even slightly gaining muscle mass even at a deficit. You will want to put on at least a little muscle to help 'fill in' your body a bit that used to be fat.Cardio is fine for a cooldown period after lifting but it should not be your main source of 'losing weight'.>>75705116this anon is exactly right. cardio and lifting aren't mainly about 'losing weight', your caloric deficit and diet are. exercise is mainly about overall health, stamina, joint health, and keeping/gaining muscle (depending on your goal) and so on.>>75705150you are missing the point. exercise does help with a deficit yes, but it's minor compared to diet.
>>75705205in the garbage where they belong.
>>75705205>long-term fastingi.e. 0 healthy lifetime food habits established, left with only extremes, most likely to yo-yoJust eat healthy food in reasonable portions
>>75705182How many 45kg plates you put on both sides of the bar for your compound lifts Overheads/Benches/Squats/Deads respectively.1/2/3/4 is the typical benchmark for being "strong" 2/3/4/5 is for advanced lifters
>>75705220Yes, if you proceed to go back to what you ate before you'll just get fat again. That's true of quite literally any dietary regime.
>>75705210>you are missing the point. exercise does help with a deficit yes, but it's minor compared to diet.Yes, but if you're already at 1500kcal diet those extra calories burned are awesome
>>75705208>>75705217Imagine having the will to put a fork down. Y'all could never. Your body's fat storage is waiting to be tapped--use it
Fatty ContestGarfield145.2kg
>>75705237i agree. my workouts 3x a week burn an extra maybe 200-300 kcal per workout? but compare that to a 500-1000 kcal deficit from diet every day. i eat around 1300 kcal a day, and weight loss really starts slowing down, i'll take all the extra help i can get.it's a nice little bonus, but i view lifting and cardios main purpose as improving your overall health, not to take the place of a good diet/deficit. the saying goes 'you cant out exercise a bad diet'.
>>75705266>27lbs in 2 weeksLMAO, you are so pathetic
>>75705205>FastingRetard
>>75705272the magic of fasting on diabetes with a physical job. shame me all you want. I think i'll break my fast today.
>>75705220>Fast until not fat anymore, takes a few months>Establish healthy eating habits once you're lean and your weight is already under control>Weigh in weekly, if weigh is going back up, just eat lessWow so hard, it would be so much better to slowly lose the weight over years, years I could have spent not being a disgusting fat body and give myself the calorie tracking eating disorder while I'm at it.
>>75705279Whatever you say kek such a pathetic loser
>>75705283can you make clear to the clasroom why you think i'm a pathetic loser, outside of being fat, anon?
>>75705283This man is jealous and sad.
>>75705288>27lbs in 2 weeksI don't need to say anything else, you pathetic larper
>>75704543LMAO
>>75705288Not that guy and I usually think he's naysaying completely possible shit because he's bitter or retarded or some shit, but this one's completely impossibleThat necessitates an over 6500 calorie daily deficit
>>75705279>fasting on diabetes Is that a good idea? That sounds like it'd be dangerous and unhealthy. You talk to your doctor about this at all?
>>75705308t. fatty looking for excuses to eat carbs
>>75705303it's definitely not all fat loss. considering how massively fat he is, and that he said he was fasting, the majority of that will be the body getting rid of water.
>>75705280Unironically you can do a lot of this while fasting. Make your break meals high-quality and don't eat slop, and you're golden.I love to roast a chicken, turn the carcass into stock and make homemade chicken noodle soup (works well with duck/turkey/goose too). I can get a weeks worth of meals out of one chicken, some pasta, some veggies and herbs.
>>75705295>>75705303i don't have an explanation. It's just as surprising to me as it is to you.>>75705308I'm not even sure I'm diabetic, but with my slow-healing wounds and constantly-itching ankles i wouldn't be surprised. I don't really go to doctors.
>>75705312Or you know, he's lying.
>>75705312Can you really have that much water to lose? That would have to be like 600+ lbs with severe lipodemas to be losing that much water weightSomething like 7 lbs of water weight in one week, sure, that's extreme but not unheard of27 lbs in two weeks? No way man
>People just lying in the fatty contest so they can 'win' the legReally really sad
>>75705303When you fast like that you shed a ton of water, as well as lean mass, on top of the fat loss. He's class III, so it's probably like half of that is water, 40% is fat, and the remaining 10% is muscle and bone density loss.
>185cm tall>96kg>go on diet>get to 79kg over 5 months last year>people barely notice>I barely notice the differenceJust by numbers alone, I thought that was good, but I am not happy with the results.What the fuck should my goal even be?
>>75705332I'm looking this up and it seems it actually is possible, it's just not the standardI was too convinced by what I did not know
>>75705323>>75705332sure he could be lying, scale could be shit, maybe he had massive shit in him last week when he weighed in, whatever. it's possible his 347 weigh in 2 weeks ago was an aberration and his trend was going down lower than what the scale shows. but meh whatever.i lost 15 lbs in 2 weeks when i was giga fat due to water whoosh and so on. i've seen weird shit happen with weight, the body is crazy.
>>75705280Surely you've made it by now then right?
>>75705369>i lost 15 lbs in 2 weeksHe claims he's lost almost twice that
>>75705323>>75705332here's today including the weight of my heavy-ass industrial phoneversus last week >>75672820
>>75705315>FastingRetard
>>75705365You weren’t insanely overweight to begin with. Start lifting
>>75705381Whatever you say larper
>>75705365You didn't lift so now you are just a smaller still fat version
>>75705315I've been fasting mon-fri and on Saturday and Sunday. I eat half a rotisserie chicken, drink a big glass of whole milk, and eat a whole bundle of broccoli(15~17oz). So I'm kinda doing that already. Just not making soup out of the bones.
Fasting
>>75705377again, weight can fluctuate a lot from week to week. assuming he isn't lying, i would bet that 347 was likely an aberration and his 'real weight' may have been closer to 340 or so which makes it less insane of a swing. just saying the body can do weird shit and you only have 1 number per week to look at so weird swings can happen. i've been there.obviously if he's lying than whatever, what can you do.
>>75705365Yeah but you're healthier now and are less likely to have a vast array of health problems now, that's what matters
>>75701275Make a new thread
>>75705394Best
>>75705395He is lying, next week he'll put in another 12+lb weight loss and you'll all slurp his cock and tell him how good he's doing
>>75705370Down 86lbs got ~50lbs more to go.
>>75705385>>75705390I don't want more muscle, I want less fat. I was lifting throughout, just not trying to bulk or anything.
>>75705399i don't say anything to anyone about fatty contest. it's just there. you are the one getting mad.
>>75705406I don't care, i'm just going to call out an obvious larper when i see one.
>>75705399garfield herenah i think i'll go buy something to eat from the store today, ending my fast. I just worry about overfeeding syndrome. Last time i did this it was twice the amount of days and i threw up all over when i ate for the first time again.
>>75704860I have 1200 calories left to spend for the day.
NEXT THREAD >>75705433>>75705433>>75705433>>75705433
>>75701324MOUNTAIN CLIMBERS
>>75701400Check your hormones?
>>75702656>>75702656You now have a great base to build muscle on. Really.If you're not there already, work up to gym 5x a week. Lifting weights. At least 50 minutes. Focus on 1-2 lifts. Eat tons of protein and don't let nothing come in the way of your sleep. 5x + sleep is #1 priority.If you start to feel fat creeping in, do a week of HIIT.Your hair looks fine, if it's getting thin just talk to your doc about finasteride or minoxidil.Glasses are fine. Or contacts. Don't have to get LASIK.Chew some gum to get the jawline/masseter muscle going.
>>75702656This but unironically
>>75705411You keep calling out 'larpers' yet those 'larpers' always seem to be able to post pictures of their scale showing the weights they're reporting. Maybe the scale is faulty, but Occam's razor seems to suggest it's not a larp, the amount of effort they'd need to convincing fake those pictures is far greater than just losing the weight. The body is weird and class III fat fucks like him can lose a ton of weight quickly. Also this dude already won a leg before, he's in the hall of acclaim, why would he bother faking it at this point?
>>757054711-2 lifts per workout, not total. E.g. if you're focusing on legs, the main lift might be squats or leg press. Do 5-8 sets of this main lift. Then yeah do some accessory stuff but in the 1-4 set range.
>>75704781I'm only 5'7... gonna need some comfort food tonight.
>>75704266Why exactly do you need all this?I get collagen (guessing loose skin prevention) and maybe magnesium, but whats the rest for?
>>75704781
Averaging 20k steps a week now, walking more than I did the first time I lost weight and got thin.
Fatty ContestPonponpon271.5lbs
>>75704781Man, it's true, the heightcels keep raising the height under which everybody is as doomed as they are.Only a few more inches and they'll claim me within their ranks too. Shouldn't be long now.
>>75705242Just not eating is easy. Portioning and staying in a low restriction is hard.
>>75705381AUTISM TOES!!!!
>>75705401Cool, so eat high protein and conserve what muscle you do have.
>>75705401Hi. 185cm 83kg here, was 102kg.I did a high protein cut while lifting to get to 83kg.No obviously visible shape difference with a shirt on, but love handles had gotten smaller.I've been at recomp since, and am trading roughly 1.5kg of fat for muscle per month. It's a slow process, but in principle it should improve my shirt-off physique a bit (and my health a lot.)I don't expect my shirt-on appearance to meaningfully change. It is what it is.
>>75706644What for? I'm disappointed by the results of even such a big loss of weight>>75706681Hi. Congrats if that's what you wanted. But I wish I knew things were like this beforehand, so that there was no need for me to bother
>>75706702> But I wish I knew things were like this beforehandSo, the good news is, this is not forever.Losing weight is fast. Gaining muscle mass is slow.I started this 8 months ago, and I'll assess what's going with my lean mass in maybe two years. Any earlier than that is mostly pointless (natty, anyway.)
>>75706705>Gaining muscle mass is slow.I don't want to look ripped or muscular. Just fit
