>Who is /fat/ for?For food-binged frens, working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Previous thread: >>76588504
I climb the scale only in the morning after having a good long piss and mega dump, and only once every week. I'd be devastated to see myself going up despite eating very little
What are your guys favourite keto recipes for optimal weight loss? I have decided to buy one of those new dash minis with removable plates to make chaffle burgers.
I am finally starting to like the certainty and efficiency of just eating the same food every day. I have eaten the same foods for like 3 months with only a few exceptions and chest meals
My cravings come primarily from boredom and being in the house with the easy access to food. I noticed I never get hungry while walking outside, not even with the physical feeling of vacuum inside my stomach. It's purely psychological to me.
I've read about the big initial loss of water weight and plateaus but is it normal for a plateau to come immediately after the water weight loss? On a daily 700 calorie deficit and in the first week scale went down 6 pounds but in the second week it didn't budge. Counting everything in a tracker including shit like sauces/seasoning/etc.
>>76592334Are you eating carbs? Plateaus and eventual weight regain are totally normal for calorie restricted diets with carbs.
>>76592292None, I just OMAD a regular breakfast sandwich. 2 pork patties, 2 fried eggs, 2 slices of cheese, regular bread buns. 1000 calories.That's all I need for weight loss. Caffeine to alleviate bordedom from lacking food. 3 meals a day is gay. Losing weight at a snails pace is gay.
>>76592334a plateau can last upwards of ten days, even longer. keep persevering
>>76592353OMAD works because for most of the day your insulin will be low.You can majorly improve your gains by replacing the bread buns with chaffles.
What should I eat tomorrow morning
>>76592384Anything but carbs.I like bacon and eggs for breakfast. If you eat bacon look for sugar free bacon. If it is labeled low-sodium it might be sugar free. Check ingredients.
>>76592317me too. how do we combat this? Are we doomed to never buying goyslop? What if my future wife buys a shit ton of goyslop like most women?
>>76592391>What if my future wife buys a shit ton of goyslop like most women?I think about that too, my nutritional habits are basically incompatible with normies'. No watching movies while eating pancakes with nutella for me. I wish I could find a girl who eats healthy by herself.
>>76592403>I wish I could find a girl who eats healthy by herself.knowing most women are fat by the time they are in their 30s, I think we are screwed to be fatties at this rate.
>>76592388Why carbs? How come not CICO
>>76592285>despite eating very littleHow will you maintain once you meet your goal?
do the people who lose weight that don't believe in cico happen to be eating at a deficit ?
Cream of mushroom + rice is a hearty meal
>>76592469>carbs>a hearty meal
>>76592423Unlimited calorie low-carb works better than restricted calorie with carbs.Of course you can restrict calories in addition to low-carb if you want, though it isn't necessary. The key is avoiding carbs.
>>76592449Depends on what you actually mean by CICONo one denies that eating less food is going to make you skinnier, the problem is that when people talk about CICO 99/100 times they mean "eat the same shit you're eating now, but less", which is a recipe for disaster. Just saying "eat less" is completely ignoring human biology and hormones. If it isn't obvious enough, your body works differently when you're eating 1600 calories of ground beef and turkey as opposed to 1600 calories of cereal, oats, and pizza. With a healthy diet your body will self select for lower intake and you'll easily lose weight without counting calories.
>>76592362Alright, give me a recipe and I'll report back with results
>>76592480Wtf lol?This is bullshit lmao
>>76592472>CICO>Can eat anything at a deficit
>>76592482>eating less food is going to make you skinnierCorrect.To everyone else, remember it's your duty to report spammers.
>>76592487Dash mini waffle makers work best. They have a dash multimaker mini now with removable plates which is probably good for cleaning but I don't have one yet and it costs more. Otherwise just use whatever waffle maker you have. Belgian waffle makers will get worse results due to thickness.The basic recipe is - 1 large egg- 1/2 cup of shredded cheese (mozzarella or cheddar)You mix the egg and cheese as a batter. Put some shredded cheese on the waffle iron first to get a nice crispy crust. Then add the egg+cheese mix. Cook 3-5 minutes until it isn't steaming and you have your desired crispiness.Perfect for all types of sandwiches and burgers.
>>76592506ignored the entire point of the post award
>>76592261My father prepared a bowl of ice cream for me without my knowledge, or permission. Now I'm no longer in deficit for the day even though I suffered through hunger for hours, earlier.
>>76592518hes rewarding you for your good work dieting, he has faith that tomorrow you will eat 800 calories to compensate
I lostFIVEcount emFIVE POUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! over the last two or so weeks.I'm so happy.
how long should the eating window be in OMAD?
>>76592261>not seeing the weight loss I wanted after following the OP guide and other board sticky>go through archive and read some old threads >/fit/ broscientists saying a sudden big caloric deficit (I was doing -900) makes your metabolism slow down so much you don't lose weightWtf, did /fat/ lie to me or is there a nuance I'm missing?
>>76592580When you sit down for a meal, thats the duration, dumbass. You 100% ate already and want to eat another meal
so does the ketoschizo only support keto or does he support keto while advocating against cico
>>76592603He’s fine with Keto + CICO
>>76592580unironically as long as it takes you to get your protein goal in
>>76592592>dumbass. You 100% ate already and want to eat another mealWay to act like ahyperaggresive jackass without being provoked
>>76592612cool. i try keto to see how it it. it might be perfect for me (i'm mixed race)
>>76592630You calling people niggers when you cant even stick to OMAD speak volumes.
>>76592588how long has it been, and what does -900 leave you per day?
>managed to avoid binging on sloppa yesterdayThe future looks bright.
>>76592663Now just do that for 95% of the rest of your life and you can go to grave knowing you made it
>>76592668I will make a beautiful corpse.
>tfw 10 years until I have a heart attack according to my family historyWAGMI
>>76592588People come to /fat/ to lie about calories. Pic related.You would have better results eating unlimited calorie low-carb.
>>76592675Motivation to not kms yet
What bf% to make cheeks chiseled?
so hungry...
>>76592575Congrats
I'm going to order and eat an entire pizza tomorrow if I wake up hungry
>76592388>76592362>76592482>76592480>76592511>76592698He's been at it for more than 20 hours straight now.
>>76592861Probably not a good idea but go off king
>>76592878that's the way she goes
>>76592861eat an egg and go for a walk, if youre hungry after that you can order a pizza>>76592875it keeps him off the streets and out of trouble
>>76592875Hello Moxyte. You would be less mentally ill if you ate animal products.
>>76592861Make yourself a keto pizza with carnivore crust. Then you can enjoy it without worrying about calories.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw-IxzHOMhQ
Never forget one is timestamped recently one isn't hmmm
Okay. I need to lose 13kg, minimum by December 27, preferably 26kg. I will do this by eating lean and walking regularly.
>>76592943Lean protein(93/7 or leaner) smash clean carbs w/out fat (veggies/potatoes) and walk a lot. You got this bro
>>76592943Vension is great
>Used to struggle with losing weight>Lost ~10kg over a few months>Started running to burn a few extra calories>Got addicted to it>A year later I'm running 4+ times.per week (and still lifting twice)>Now I worry about not getting enough calories and it's hard to even stay in maintenance>If I'm not constantly eating the weight just drops off at an unsustainable rate>I'm running a race next weekend where I'll need to carb load beforehand>I need to eat 624-936g of carbs per day for 2-3 days>So I'll be shoveling in lollies, rice and juiceT-thanks, I guess?
>>76592944>>76592950I'll be using kangaroo mainly 98/2.
>>76592952It's cheaper than the 5% beef and tastes better.
>>76592823#MeToo
>>76592951Sounds awesome man, good job
imagine eating this good
Fatty ContestName: Dzonathan GavertWeight: 105kgOverall progress:https://tinylink.net/1JdoyMotivational Song of the Day:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDK9QqIzhwk 18kg down in 61 days.18kg to go in 110 days.This just might happen.
>>76593075>18kg down in 61 days.how, fasting?
>>76593078Calorie deficit and ton of overtime at a cold storage warehouse. Check the tinylink for details.
Fatty ContestName: Dzonathan GavertWeight: 105kgOverall progress:https://tinylink.net/1JdoyMotivational Song of the Day:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDK9QqIzhwk18kg down in 61 days.18kg to go in 110 days.This just might happen.
>>76592951Based carb enjoyer
>>76593086Just keep doing what you're doing, I guess.
>>76592261Down another 1.2kg this week fellas. Hope everyone else had a good week and WAGMI
Is it okay to break a 5 day fast with chicken and rice?
Should I workout in the morning or at night, I do omad at night probably 10pm I eat shower and do all that before I go to bed
>eat processed slop mcdicks burger (~700 calories)>feel like absolute garbageI feel awful but at least I learnt my lesson to stay away from that garbage for good after months of avoiding it.
>>76593225yeah, the general guidelines for breaking extended fasts are:>have a small meal>don't go too heavy on carbs (no massive pasta bowl)>eat a lot of protein>make sure you're getting tons of protein on your refeeding days (at least 1g/kilo)
>>76593233>1g/kiloper pound of lean mass* mb
I got two little silver medals, on my first time?! Wow you guys! Makes we want to fast even more, strangely effective.
>fastard cheating to win the fatty ContestPeak pathetic
Will gooning a fuckton help you lose weight?
>>76593277>how dare you only eat once a dayevery autistic screech adds 1hour to my fasting timer!
13.4k steps so far.Aiming for 20k.WAGMI
hunger has made me resort to chewing on my own finger nails and surrounding skin to try and satisfy my urgesmy hands look vile now but at least im losing weight
>dark night of the cut
>>76592261
My friend fasted last week and he dropped below 80kg for the first time in over 7 or 8 years. So proud of him.
>>76593401Do not touch the ducks.
>>76593326Try coconut water or black coffee.
>>76593295Keep going brotherWAGMI
>>76593278No, it increases Cortisol and makes you fat.
Fatty Contestblindoptimism167.2
as I get skinnier my progress only slows down :(
>>76593401>>76593430>anunymous comes home to a bloody conclave>duck corpses litter the grounds>atmosphere of fried batter and duck grease is heavy in the sultry breeze>hear a guttural yet booming voice"you're looking a little thin, anun...let's put some MEAT on those bones"
>>76593472Yep, and I found going under 1500 calories a day absolutely tanks my mood. I started feeling irritable all the time and I started having difficulty getting to sleep. So trying to eat less to speed things back up was not sustainable for me.However, visually speaking, I think progress is way more apparent when you're skinnier. Every pound I lose when I'm <200lbs is way more apparent than even 10 pounds when I was >3000lbs. I didn't even notice a difference when I lost my first 20lbs, but going down just 5lbs now is a major difference. So maybe don't track your progress with the number on the scale, but try to take pictures of yourself every week and compare that way.
>>76592285Daily weigh ins are better and more accurate, you just take the weekly average.And you're a big boy, I'm sure you can handle highs and lows from glycogen and backed up shit without having a panic attack when you know that daily fluctuations don't matter.Plus exactly 7 days later you could have stored water weight and see no change in the scale and think nothing happened for a week, THEN you're going to be devastated.
>>76593436Finished at 22k. Pushed myself a little further.WAGMI
DAY 6:70.5 kgHaven't eaten yet. Lost 4 kg since I started most of which I assume is water weight
>>76593493this, more datapoints + charting them so you have less of an error margin>t. did that while doing beeminder while going skelly
Fatty Contest TheObeseBrit 201.5lbs
>6/36 hours into another fast
Am I the only one that fast 16/8godspeed to those that fast for days, I don't think I couldWAGMI
I did a 36 hour fastI felt terriblecould not sleepand was tiredand when I finally broke the fast I just ate and ate all day long
>>76593701Fasting kinda doesn't work because of how much you splurge at the end
>>76592261i have been eating healthier for 2 months and lifting for a 1.5 months. i have noticed significant improvement in fat loss for my thighs, waist, and hips, but the gut and fat in my face has not moved at all. is this normal?
>>76593439Shit. I've been doing it quite a lot recently.
Fatty ContestPortuFat122.4kg
>fastingDon't do that>ketoDon't do that>meme dietDon't do that>cicoDo that
>>765925800-2 hours shouldn't make a difference, takes a while to digest a whole meal anyways
>>76593738maybe you should have another thread long meltdown, ill totally stop doing what i've found helps me lose weight because some autist on the internet really cares about my weight loss strategy for some reason
>>76593738So ice cream diet? Cico is one of the most retarded shit ever.
>>76593572Anon, unless you are a woman, you are not allowed to go lower. You'll turn into a twink.
>>76593748he weighs almost 30 pounds more than I do
>>76593750What how? Why so less?
>>76593326toothpaste started tasting pretty good when I was fasting
>>76593746>>76593747The retard diet meltdown begins
>>76593765>eat normal foods your body is adapted to?>no that's bullshit, obviously you're trying to sell me on pills and liver oil!>eat one scoop of ice cream a day instead of two?>NOW THIS IS HOW YOU LOSE WEIGHT AND IF YOU DISAGREE YOU'RE A RETARDcan we go one day without your retardation
>>76593757i made a diableric pact with an adiposidemon
weird brag: turns out I've now lost enough leg/ass fat that it hurts a little bit to sit on the wood chair in my kitchen. Like I can feel my bones digging into the woodmaybe this is a skinny person problem, or maybe I was just so fat I never noticed how shitty my furniture is
>>76593823what does a diabetic pact involve?
>>76593837it is a skinny nigga problemtime to squat
>>76593837buy a seat cushion
>>76593837yeah my exercise bike seat hurts now, can feel my bones on it now
>>76593843it was a surprise for sure. Turns out there's a skeleton hiding inside meNow to buy a peleton and get caked the fuck up
>>76593748I am short
>>76593757if you actually want to get lean and have abs you need to get really skinnyIf you aren't like 6'2 or have developed 25+ pounds of muscle over years of lifting, that's the weight you're going to need to see a six pack
>>76593842the demon gets a portion of your soul equal to your bf% when you die
>>76593858>25+ pounds of muscle over years of liftingYear not years but I agree with this post
>>76593867>25 pounds of lifting>in one yearmaybe if you roid
how does one get rid of visceral fat? eli5 pls
>>76593876stop eating food and your body will use it for energysimple as that
>>76593874Nah I did it, you have to train properly but the vast majority of your muscle should be built in the first year to two years. I know it's a meme but dexa has me up 29lbs of LBM (I know it's just a guess)
>Visceral fat is the dangerous fat that wraps around your organs. You can't see it, it can’t be pinched like belly fat, but it’s far worse for your health.>Unlike belly fat, visceral fat is influenced by the types of fat and sugar you eat, especially saturated fat and added sugar, not just your calorie intake.>Balancing your diet with more unsaturated fats and protein (instead of sugar) helps lower visceral fat, even without strict calorie counting.>That said, a calorie deficit is the most effective way to burn visceral fat, and it’s usually the first fat your body sheds once you're in that deficit.>Interval cardio and moderate-to-high intensity exercise have been shown to specifically target visceral fat, even without weight loss.https://builtwithscience.com/fitness-tips/destroy-visceral-fat/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taPJ2fvSzKY
>>76593891>29lbs of LBMlol
>>76593823resist the adipussy
>>76593895Like I said I don't believe dexa but it's definitely over 20lbs. I wish you would take hypertrophy training seriously you'd be surprised what you can accomplish
>>76593891>29lbs of LBMNot quite the same as skeletal muscle mass. 25 pounds of muscle in a year natty is theoretically possible but you'd have to do everything perfectly or be regaining lost muscle.
>>76593900oh it's this retardwow dead internet theory this early in the morning?
>>76593901Yeah if you do everything perfectly or close to its possible. Which is how I discovered these influencers are all fake nattys, I already got stronger than some of them while they are still bigger. I can do heavier weighted pull ups than Jeff nipples, shoulder press more than max taylor etc and they are "still gaining muscle" on like year 13 of "natural" lifting lol people really do max out after about 5 years if they do it right
>>76593662>hunger finally started kicking inI need to figure out how I'm going to manage the anxiety and get some sleep tonight
>>76593950Ashwagandha if it doesn't cause you to get even more anxious.Try ksm-66, it makes my cut easy mode.
>>76593876>how does one get rid of visceral fat? eli5 plsYour genetics determines where you put on fat as you gain weight. For some, it goes into thighs, then belly (visceral), then back to thighs, then face- it's not evenly distributed as you gain. For others, sometimes it goes to ass for a while, then to belly, then to arms, etc. When you lose weight, it comes off in the opposite order. I've gained/lost weight several times in my life to know the exact 15 lb weight range I gain all of my face fat, kinda crazy.That said, you essentially have to keep losing weight (by weight, I mean fat), and your body will remove fat in the order it put it on, until it hits the visceral fat.No real other way about it: lose fat until your body removes it from your viscera.One modifier: Stop drinking alcohol. Alcohol fucks with your hormones and promotes visceral fat storage.
>>76593900What does McDonalds know about this?Don't they make burgers?
Is the "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" meme a scam?It seems like shifting most of my calories from breakfast to supper vastly improved my sleep (and conversely clarity/energy/mood/etc. on the following day).
>>76593738>do what the sugar industry tells youNo.
>>76593993part of why amerilards lard, these should have been luigi'd from the start
>>76593876Dr Sean O'Mara does scans on his patients to track their visceral fat. His advice is basically:- low-carb/carnivore diet- sprinting- fastingYou can look up his name to see interviews where he goes over this in greater detail.
>>76594022>sprintingwhy sprinting specifically?wouldn't any exercise help, since it will also burn fat through requiring more energy?
>>76593764Now you know they put the sugar jew in toothpaste.
Hi /fat/Trying this out again after five failed attempts the past few years. Do you think a food scale is necessary? I tend to underestimate my calories it seems. Ah, and which app do you recommend for tracking calories? I’ve been using Lose It but I’m getting sick of them paywalling their best features. Thanks
>>76593979>"Breakfast is the most important meal of the day," was invented in the mid 19th century by Seventh Day Adventists James Caleb Jackson and John Harvey Kellogg to sell their newly invented breakfast cereal food stuffs
How do people poop every day when losing weight? I only poop like once in a while.
>>76594055If you don't eat carbs you barely shit, unironically
>>76594041It's not necessary, but it's convenient. I rarely use measuring cups anymore because a scale does it all without any cleanup. Also important for foods with dense calories like snacks.
>>76594025>why sprinting specifically?Because it is high intensity.>wouldn't any exercise help, since it will also burn fat through requiring more energy?No, additive DEE is a myth. Pic related.
>>76594055I'm down to every other day, most of the time.
>>76594041No a food scale is not necessary. Estimating calories of the food you eat is not necessary. Tracking what you eat in a food diary is not necessary.The only thing necessary to get lean is to stop eating carbs.
>The only thing necessary to get lean is to stop eating carbs.
>>76594041>Do you think a food scale is necessary?I'm going to say "it depends". If you aren't familiar with food amounts, I'd say its necessary for a while so your brain can adjust and get better at estimating food-by-weight (after maybe 6 months of using a food scale, I can eyeball it pretty damn close most common food ingredients). That said, it definitely helps with making sure your estimates are really good. Given how cheap they are, I think everyone should have one really.>and which app do you recommend for tracking calories? I use Macrofactor which is bomb as hell, by far the best app out there, but its expensive, so probably not what you are looking for.
>>76594081Hello moxyte. How was your sleep?Jimmy Moore ate carbs and raped a child. Not a trustworthy person. But he did lose a lot of weight when he wasn't eating carbs.
>Jimmie Moore given 293 months for sexual abuse of a child>Fatlogic-adjacent: Keto influencer and fountain of fatlogic Jimmy Moore sentenced to 20 years for statutory rape.
>>76594087Your body tracks how much food you eat with hunger and satiety signals. No need to consciously estimate anything.The only thing that messes that up is eating carbs. That's why unlimited calorie low-carb diets work better than restricted calorie diets which include carbs.Literally the only thing necessary to get lean is quitting carbs.
Let's take guesses on how many posts Moxyte will make about Jimmy Moore even though nobody mentioned him.Pic related is Dr. Tro Kalayjian who recommends a low-carb diet. He eats a low-carb diet himself.
>>76594063>>76594087Thank you anons for weighing in! Will definitely take your thoughts into consideration for the food scale>>76594079>The only thing necessary to get lean is to stop eating carbs.Sounds plausible. I’ve eaten rice every day my whole life, and it definitely affects my hunger in a way. But whenever I see this “don’t eat carbs”, I always think about countries like Japan where they eat kilograms of rice weekly. I don’t know too many fat Japanese people. Though to be fair, their portions of rice are way smaller than what I eat and it’s buffeted by lots of lean protein.I’ll continue to look into the no-carb notion. Thank you anon!
>>76594108Happy to help.I struggled to lose weight for many years until I heard about low-carb so I enjoy passing on good advice.
>>76594022how long should a fast be? ive never done a water fast longer than 8 days, also how often should a fast be done?
>>76593668i fast 8/16
>>76594108don't respond to the keto schizo
so it’s official that keto=pedo and carbs are ok? good to finally set the record straight
Hey guys, I've got a small problem, my lower back hurts when doing planks and while and after riding a road bike for a while, I'm gonna do McGills big three, what else can I do to help myself?
>>76594163Planks don't do anything lose weight and progressively overload your abs with weight if you want a six pack. You wouldn't train your shoulders by doing body weight lateral raise isometric holds would you? >McGills big threeWhy are dyels obsessed with meme shit idk what this even is
>>76594144Sean O'Mara recommends 3-4 days fasting.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLZm1vNO9Ng
>>76593668I do 16/8 most days; recently I've gone to OMAD on really busy days. Both work really well for me, I don't really see a reason to go past that (I've done alternative day fasting before, but I feel like its kind of a lot; I'm sure you get used to it, but I haven't found the need).>>76594108>Thank you anons for weighing in!>weighing inhehehehehe
>>76594181My lower back hurts my good man and they're not for getting a six pack just strenghtening my core and alleviating that LBP
>>76594199Oh okay then do this, flailing around on the floor isn't going to do anything
>>76594163Just take it easy, you can make it worse pretty easily. Just the McGills big three are good enough for now. Once it feels better then you can do more. I like KneesOverToesGuy and Low Back Ability videos on youtube for lower back stuff. Back extensions are key once you are ready for it.If you're sitting at a desk all day, getting a good ergonomic chair can help too. Make sure you mattress isn't too worn out either, my old one was making things worse.
>>76594216Thank you so much mate
EATLESS FOOD
>>76594079yawn
Holy shit this guy is posting here 24/7He is literally some fat bedridden subhuman who spends all day on /fit/
>start exercise>feel happy>exercise over>still feel goodthis is bliss
>>76594321I've always found it kinda retarded to argue over the best way to lose weight.If you're losing weight, just keep doing what you're doing. If that's a diet of twinkies and bacon grease, it doesn't really matter in the long run as long as you lose weight. Because ultimately no diet is going to do as much harm to you as being fat is.Obviously you need to learn good eating habits and make this a long term thing. But really just focus on getting there first.
>>76594332>exercise>stick to it>months pass>still a miserable agonizing experience every timethis is hell
>Start lifting>Scale goes UPAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH MY MENTAL IS DESTROYED
>>76594338It's not about arguing with someone's personal methods, it's more about having to call out a retard so he doesn't convince newfags to eat 5lbs of bacon a day. Fatties are already wired to look for too good to be true loopholes.
>>76594332does that happen everytime for you? i only get that one in ten times or so.
>>76594343You need to train progressively, if you do the same workout every time you'll plateau and it'll always be hell. Push yourself, track your workouts and try to do more than last time, you'll make progress and then you can look back at how far you've come.
I just want to be a normal sized person......
>>76594388huh? i mean that's what i already do but how the fuck is that meant to stop it being hell? definitionally, "pushing yourself" means "make it more hell". No pain no gain, so to speak.
>>76594399You would be a normally sized person in any natural setting where food is not always availableYour genes that cause you to overeat as much as possible so you can have good fat storage are an excellent survival mechanism But in an unnatural world it works against you, consider fighting fire with fire and use unnatural solutions to fight it
>>76592304Make sure to take a multi to cover your bases
>>76592403>No watching movies while eating pancakes with nutella Is this a real thing that you think normal people do?
>>76593876Topical yohimbe
>>76594055What are you eating?>some X some Y a little ZPost your food log
>>76594377>>76594321Just add "keto" "carnivore" and "vegan" to your spam filters. It'll catch 99% of his posts. When another stupid graph he posts shoes up just hide it by the image hash.
>Using a spam filterlmao
>>76594338It's actually very important to tell people the best way to lose weight. Otherwise they won't succeed at weight loss.Low-fat calorie restricted diets don't work.Low-carb diets work with or without calorie restriction.
>>76594377As long as it is sugar free you can get lean by eating unlimited bacon.>I expected that even though I was eating 2500 calories a day, an increase of 500 calories a day for me, that I would not gain much weight, I already knew that eating fat and protein doesn't make you fat. >The biggest and most unexpected change was losing so much body fat in the 30 days. I lost 19.6 pounds by the end of the monthhttps://ketogasm.com/the-bacon-experiment-interview/
>I'm so mad about this>here's how to fix it>lol you're gay
>>76594445>not using spam filters to enhance your web-forum browsing experienceLoving Every Laugh
>>76594479You're responding to the keto spammer.You can tell because he's now altered his posts to include a dash in between the words low and carb to bypass the filters that I just said to add.
>>76594479>Being so reddit you need to use a spam filter on 4chanpeak newfag
>>76594509You’re responding to someone with a word he’s filtering
>>76594518He isn't the sharpest carb in the bread.
>>76594523Kek
>>76594518nah I'm not opposed to it but in this case there's no point, too many false positives. Can't blanket filter the phrase "carb" on a weight loss thread.
>>76594528You use a regex to match certain cases
>>76594530No one else uses it since no one else is a onions redditard
>>76594530it's easier to just skim past him (or it would be, if idiots stopped trying to have an earnest debate with him). Boards get nutjobs sometimes, just a shame that this one's decided not to use a trip
>>76594553The fact that you can't stop talking about him means that you don't skim past him.
fellow walkers and rooners, now with cold and rainy days approaching, how do I achieve my 10k? buy a treadmill?
>>76594549I'm sorry you're so mad that people are filtering out your propaganda.
Another day of getting fat from carbs
Guess who's eating his favorite meal today again.620 kcals, 46g protein. Life is good.
>>76594565Man that looks good
>>76594565I don't know what I'm looking at but I would eat it
>>76594570>>76594576Tastes really good too, and it's relatively easy to make.Only downside it takes a while to cook. I cook it in my rice cooker with a slowcook function, but if you don't have that, it has to stew for ~2h. I just let the rice cooker do its thing for 3-4h personally, because I can do other stuff while it cooks.If you're interested, the dish is called "mualle", it's a turkish vegetable stew. I added some basedbean granules for protein and cottage cheese for macros and to balance heat. Would probably also go well with ground beef or chicken on the side.
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>>76594559You're talking to some random guy. I'd prefer if the carb zealots just filtered my posts and didn't reply.They are usually pretty open about not filtering my posts because they feel like they need to police the thread for low-carb advice and try to prevent people from quitting carbs.Carb huffers want people to fail at weight loss like themselves. Misery loves company.
>>76594594>Misery loves companyironic.
>>76594594read the op fatty
>>76594601I've been lean for years now.I was fat when I believed the calorie lie. Then I learned obesity was actually caused by carbs and I finally lost weight and kept it off.
>>76594594Why are you still fat?Why does keto not work for you?Why do you not post body with updated timestamp and instead use the picture of another person?
>>76594619Unlimited calorie keto worked for me. Works for many people. It is the most successful diet by far in head to head comparisons.Would you like me to post some studies and charts?
>>76594616>thermodynamics is a lieokay dude, are you also gonna tell us the earth is actually flat? (while your belly still isn't)
hello fellow fatties. Wondering if any of u post fat fatties have experienced any changes in how people generally treat/see you? I've lost 100 pounds so far and I am basically a different person to everyone around me, after being fat all my life it's weird
>>76594626No I dont care about the studies, I want to ask why it doesn't work for you since you're still fat and are using some other anons picture who posted in response to keto many years agoI'm not denying that keto can work
>>76594629I have only lost 45 lbs so far with about 45-50 more to go and I've noticed zero changes.
>>76594628>gonna tell us the earth is actually flat?That's funny coming from a flat calorie theorist.
>>76594563Dude that looks so good I'm going to eat some fruit after the gym
>>76594631Are you gonna ignore my post again ketoschizo?We know you're fat because you cannot post a timestamped pictureYou dont even work out or are builtfat because that would be unironically an ugprade from the DYEL picture you're using of another anonBut no you can't even match thatYou are just fat and out of shape and I want to know why you're fat if keto diet works so well??
Don't you find it funny how all these pro-keto studies are normally relatively short-term (around half a year)? Really makes you think, doesn't it?
Scale didn't go down so i've spent all day binge eating. Fuck this gay shit
>>76592261>hit target weight>stop dieting>inevitably gain the weight backHow do you break this? It seems like a lot of overweight people know how to lose weight, but keeping it off is the real problem.
>>76594693Just eat what you need and you wont gain weight, duh.
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>>76594693You're supposed to reform your relationship with food during the dieting phase and learn what proper portions are.
>>76594692And now scale will go upYou just forgot that scale can often not go down because of waterweight but as long as you're in a calorie deficit fat will go down even if you can't see it on the scaleYou failed, its okay, stand up and try again
>>76594657Maybe if you ask nicely and concede that I am 100% correct and keto is the best diet if I can post a lean physique I will post body again.If I was going to steal someone else's keto/carnivore physique it would be someone else. Like the guy in pic related.
>>76592261for an untrained fatty, are DB OHP's xx per week enough for shoulder development or should i be doing other accessories as well?
>>76594710Please post body of yourself with timestamp and I will stop pestering you about your keto diet posts
>>76594663What studies did you see that convinced you counting calories while eating carbs was a good idea?Keto works great long term. It is the best diet for maintaining weight loss.
Oops! How unfortunate!https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4962163> Subjects lost weight and body fat throughout the study corresponding to an overall negative energy balance of ∼300 kcal/d in both an an isocaloric low-carbohydrate ketogenic diet and a high-carbohydrate baseline diet>Body fat loss slowed during the KD and coincided with increased protein utilization and loss of fat-free mass. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16476868/>After 6 months, individuals assigned to low-carbohydrate diets had lost more weight than individuals randomized to low-fat diets>This difference was no longer obvious after 12 monthshttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1933287419302673>Low- and very-low-carbohydrate diets are not superior to other weight loss diets.
>>76594693Weight regain is inevitable if you lose by restricting calories and eating carbs. Pic related. It happens because metabolism is lowered.The solution is to eat unlimited calorie low-carb. Low-carb boosts metabolism instead of lowering it.
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Hey fat bros. Ashamed to say I’m back. 2 years ago I went from 280-180, I have recently over the past year been slipping. Back up to 220-230 in recent weeks. I have tried to meme diet my way out of this but I’ve failed about 4 times now. Going to get back into what works. Not eating until noon each day, low carb but not meme diet level restrictions. Eggs and ground beef to break the fast. One dinner that fits on a single plate. And trying to just move a little more but not push myself to burnout- just get in a 30 minute walk everyday for the first few weeks and lift when I’m feeling good. Going to check in periodically to try to hold myself accountable since I have no friends other than my wife who is currently pregnant and not super into eating healthy. See you guys around. T. Nebraska fatty
>>76594716He never will he scared of the GRAIN BRAIN CHAD lurking waiting to mog him repeatedly
>>76594717There's an insane amount of studies showing that CICO is king. Truly the most well-researched, stable and effective weight loss method - as long as you adhere to it of course.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1282458https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1762038https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4339027https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2665929https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25452229https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31303390https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26187233https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34159359https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30389673https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34582548https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17077003
>>76594737Samefag I’m not in a place to give advice since I’ve been slipping. But when I lost 100 pounds I also incorporated a morning prayer in the shower asking god for strength to push through the hunger and stress of work and be a good husband and father. Just throwing that out there because it seemed to help to start each day with a prayer/meditation.
>>76594721>Low- and very-low-carbohydrate diets are not superior to other weight loss diets.Laughable. Low-carb shows that it is superior in every single comparison RCT with significant results. See pic related: >>76594466Here is one example (pic related). Low-carb is so dramatically superior that unlimited calorie low-carb beats restricted calorie low-fat. That's a colossal difference.
>>76594740I just think he is fat and he is using other people's accomplishments on keto as his ownWhich just leaves me with only one question, why? Why defend a diet that you can't adhere to/doesn't work for you
>>76594748Why does CICO lose to unlimited calorie low-carb, then?
>>76594752>the difference was statistically significant at 6 monthsCurious, isn't it! Allow me to refer you back to https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16476868/>After 6 months, individuals assigned to low-carbohydrate diets had lost more weight than individuals randomized to low-fat diets>This difference was no longer obvious after 12 months
>>76594755>unlimited calorie low-carb"Unlimited calorie" low-carb is a misnomer, the calories are reduced by simply eating less due to the removal of much more palatable (carb-heavy) foods.
Will you morons just stop arguing with that retard? He owns your soul by turning every thread into dog shit and y'all just can't help yourself. Fuckin ruined this general because you get baited 24/7 obviously the guy isn't legit or he'd post his picture with today's date but you just keep giving him (((yous)))Retards
The urge for a girlfriend is hitting especially hard today. Another stairmaster torture session should clear things up
>>76594778>tfw the only single guy in workI am a monster
>>76594777Surely if he gets BTFO'd just one more time he'll get tired and leave.
>>76594616you are still fat, look at you, look at the thread and tell me you aren't the heaviest fat fuck here
>>76593876tirzepatide reduces visceral fat
>>76594758One of these studies told the low-carb group to eat as much carbs as they want "until desired weight stabilized". Another told the low-carb group to add 5/g carbs weekly after reaching half their weight loss goal. Two more increased carbs to 50-60g/day. Only one kept the keto group at their original limit.Notably the low-carb groups are all unlimited calorie. They are comparing unlimited calorie low-carb with restricted calorie.Even if the results were the same, which they wouldn't be if they had just maintained low-carb long term without the carb increases, these studies all show the drastic superiority of low-carb.Low-carb is so superior it has equal or better results while eating unlimited calories.
>>76594795What is fats opinion on Glp1s
>>76594808>>76594414
>>76594766Keto foods are extremely palatable. It's a very delicious diet. It's just not fattening.Carbs are generally not great without added sauces, flavorings, or fat. They are just fattening. It's hard to stop eating carbs because they stimulate hunger.
How much more fat do I need to lose? I used to be obese (260lbish) but cant see anything but the same fat ass body. Now I'm recovering from a retarded dirty bulk where I stopped counting calories (went from 180 to 230lb)Currently 5'10 195lb. Thinking another 15lb or so? Looking to get lean as possible before I start my bulk.
>>76594795i should elaborate because some people will think this is shilling or a meme, but no, there are studies that show that tirzepatide reduces visceral fat more than just losing weight normally.
>>76594414Give me source brother
>>76594821The visceral fat loss matches the regular fatloss ratioI dont see how that shows it targets visceral fat specifically>lose more fat>lose more visceral fat too
>>76594815The fuck are you "Bulking" for? Did you not learn the first time? You already pre bulked. You have excess calories on your frame and your plan is to crash diet then immediately get in a surplus again only to blow up with fat again rinse and repeat. Spend the next six months at maintenance actually training properly. 72 IQ maximum, you only need to bulk after you are an intermediate lifter with years of experience.
>>76594780Man I have no clue what to do. There’s no lifts for charisma so I can’t cold approach. I gotta find some sort of hobby where I can meet nerdy girls
>>76594831I figured if I did a clean lean bulk, calorie counted carefully, I'd gain minimal fat
>>76594815damn, your genetics are dogshit
>>76594815how did u manage to barely get any loose skin?
>>76594826I used HYB on glp1forumBut there are plenty of other supposedly legit sources there, I just wanted a source with a warehouse in canada who would take bitcoin
>>76594836No you'd gain only fat because you look like you've never touched a weight before after already training. It's the training not the calories mate. It doesn't matter about calories if you can't even stimulate hypertrophy while obese. You are fuckin something up big time, intensity, volume or frequency. It's not working. I'm not being a dick I'm trying to save you from yourself
>>76594828there is significant difference in the ratio, 21% weight loss and 40% of visceral fat loss with tirze, vs 5% weight loss with placebo and 7% visceral fat loss.https://dom-pubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/dom.16275
>>76592261I skip breakfast, seems to be the best way for me to lose weight.
>>76594780What's your job? >>76594846I just procrastinate on taking the plunge because I might get a bad batch. And since the drugs take time/titrating up doses to work, you wouldn't even know it's bunk until you've been injecting for 2-4 months
>>76594855I thought the same and I YOLO'D anyways cause without action you dont see resultsBut I've noticed a change on week 2 of injecting tirze, you will know that its working
>>76594766Chaffles > breadCarbtards lost.
>>76594847Yeah no offense taken, I have been working out for around a year in my home gym not knowing what i was doing
>>76594891https://youtu.be/Lji2W2b-bNs?feature=sharedGood luck mate, you can change your life!
1500 calories OMAD = more weight loss than 1000 calories spread throughout the day
>>76594849More proof that body composition isn't about calories but is actually controlled by hormones.
>>76594919Not really, its controlled by both (and more like exercise)
>>76594925Nah it's just hormones.
>>76594841thanks bro i can only work with what i've got>>76594842not sure, i definitely still have loose skin in the stomach area, i can see stretch marks. >>76594902ill check it out
>cico>carbsStatistically speaking, you will regain the weight if you eat like this
Mounjaro anon update1 month on 2.5mgStarting weight 116kg / 256lbNow : 111.5kg / 246lbSo, this shit works pretty well, I guess.Cessation of hunger has continued. I eat one meal a day, usually around 1200kcal, sometimes less, sometimes more, and by the end of the day, I'm at like 1500kcal. I feel I could cut more, and lose more quickly. But, this is okay, so I think I'll just keep with it. No major side effects or feelings of unpleasantness to talk about. My diet is more protein heavy now, and I think that's helped too. Cost-wise, I did "The Golden Dose" today. And it's very easy, no problem what so ever.I'll try going up to 5mg next week. But given 2.5mg is working, I feel it's a bit pointless. But, if 5mg works better, I guess I'll just stay on that for a bit.
rate my lunch
>>76595032ethiopian/10
>>76595032>>76595035pic included this time
>76594710Womp womp, retard had stage fright again, couldn't get it up uwu
>>76595054You didn't meet the parameters for a body post.
>>76594931heh... belly boob butt...
>>76595044>cereal0/10
>>76595044this dude eating plain cheerios with spinach waterat least get some milk
>>76594557a humble raincoat>>76594717>What studies did you see that convinced you counting caloriesabout 4 of the ones you post every day have the participants on low calorie diets
>76595067Kek mogged over and over
>>76595071ive lost weight just fine while eating carbs >>76595076milk would easily add an extra 100-200 calories minimum
>>76595084The guy on the right said he isn't vegan.Here's an actual vegan vs keto comparison. With source for proof.
>>76595119Oh yeah my bad see >>76592939
>>76595078The low-calorie diets in the studies I post are always outperformed by unlimited calorie low-carb.
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how do you know if you’re hungry or just bored?
>>76595132Lel u jelly brah
>>76595156Can you eat a zero carb meal? Then you're hungry.Zero carb works with unlimited calories so you can just eat whenever you feel like it as long as you avoid carbs.
Any reason not to decrease my 1000kcal OMAD to 800?That would give me almost 3 extra pounds of body fat loss over the next month. Compliance isn't an issue since I'm on unlimited black coffee/monster zero. I'm a NEET so lack of sleep isn't a problem.
>>76595225If you're eating carbs it will cause muscle loss and lowered metabolism. If you're eating mostly protein with some fat it will be fine.
>>76595232Yeah I'm considering keto even though I've managed low calorie OMAD with carbs in the past. More interested in the supposed mood benefits than weight loss since I notice a mood improvement when I'm fasting (presumably from ketsosi). I'm waiting on a waffle maker for the cheese/egg waffles and I'll trial them in place of bread. Other than that I'm eating sardines daily because I have inflammatory health issues.
>>76595225thats a pretty tough deficit, how long hve u been doing it and how much have u lost?
>>765952602 days but I'm already dialled in. I've done this in the past. I just low calorie OMAD for a month or 2 with a ton of caffeine. Basically a poor man's meth bender. I'm 164 and want to be 133 again by the end of the year, water weight drop will bring me to like 156, so only 20lbs of body fat to lose
>samefagging and promoting keto products in totally organic interactionShameful display
>>76595269>want to be 133 so which are you, a woman, a twink or an anorexic?
>>765952795'8. 133 was my lowest weight and I only had an upper four pack
Former fat guy here.You can do it.You are not weak.You are not lost.You are not past redemption.You can and will lose the weight.You can and will improve your health.You can and will heal your relationship with food.Keep yourself accountable, dont make excuses, and when you do slip up, remember that nobody is perfect. If you have a setback, get right back on the horse and get back on the path to success Godspeed.
>>76595275CULT CHOW
>>76592353also doing 1000 cal omad for past couple weeks. was doing omad without counting the first 8 months of the year, but platuead around july-august.lost 10 lbs stupid ez. I dont even think about food until brekkie
>>76594737Lol Lincoln or Omaha
>>76593849I've been worried about that. Those undead fuckers are just waiting for us to die so they can add to their bone legion.
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>Eat salty meal>Gain 10lbs todayFuck this shit
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>>76594715somebody PLEASE respond
>>76596160You could literally just wiggle your limbs a bit and you would lose weight. Don't stress the details.
