>he is benching again
>>76711575Just do face pulls for balance.Everything in moderation.
>>76711575anon behind the back pull up listen to me start wide than narrow as you progress. the important part is top part of the movment. final rep hold for few sec at the top. get the bar to your neck
Once I hit 30 I had to quit benching. Too much shoulder pain. It was my favorite lift of them all. The gold standard. And now I am a machine cuck
>>76711603>needs machines lol u need and fucking chair lol: >>76712845>>76706275>>76705822knuckles no, but paraletts or pair of dumbbells in "neutral grip" and u press in front of you down and u can feel your shoulders wanting to go up, protract em and press down on your hands> what is it good for ?pecs :D triceps :D serratus :D anterior :Di like to flex pecs and hold myself up like that with my feet barely taking any weight, elbows slightly bent>but what is it good for?it's the same motion u will do trying to give heart massage but with your shoulders moving, not entire torso like hammer-like like they teach u proper techinique cause otherwise u will tire out in:>pecs :D triceps :D serratus :D anterior :Du are depressing shoulders in front of your chest or simply just keep em depressed and don't let them go up>innit sorta kinda like DIP hooman? don't tell me u fixed the dip now?yes i ddid bot, shoulders protracted forward allow pecs to work unlike in dip, cause with dip shoulders are retracted and pecs can't work cause they snag on bones of ribcage, it's gonna be lats mostly and only the free parts of pecs - the armpit part, sternal part will get fucked trying to contract but obstructed by ribcageu don't need to bench for pecs, actually bench is what will rob you of your pecs
>>76711603It was your favorite lift and you couldn't figure out how to do it properly?
>>76712927>It was your favorite lift and you couldn't figure out how to do it properly?there is no proper way bot :D it's and bad lift, that's all :D >>76712863
>>76712963there are people who bench more without getting injured, retard
>>76712990no there aren't bot, benching is inherently ineffective injurious nonsense bot :D >>76712863>cause with bench shoulders are retracted and pecs can't work cause they snag on bones of ribcage, it's gonna be lats mostly and only the free parts of pecs - the armpit part, sternal part will get fucked trying to contract but obstructed by ribcagedepress shoulders while pressing down on sth - so simple, hold yourself up with pecs flexing
Never felt benching in my shoulders once until i tried dumbell press
>>76713010Dumbbells are better because a dumbbell is easier to lower below your shoulder by simply pulling them apart, which you cannot do with a barbell.
>>76713010>benchpress, but with dumbbells doesn't work for the reasons expounded:>>76713001>>>76712863 (You)>>cause with bench shoulders are retracted and pecs can't work cause they snag on bones of ribcage, it's gonna be lats mostly and only the free parts of pecs - the armpit part, sternal part will get fucked trying to contract but obstructed by ribcagesee this bloated retard? is he "benching" ? fuck no, he is weighing the weight of barbell in quarter motion that is anything but bench - shoulders are protracted, there's zero arch https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vc1d9UNqzdYsame principle: >>76712863
>retard autist thinks every exercise needs a lockoutno wonder you keep getting injured
>>76713020It doesnt work what? My chest? Then why do i have chest doms from doing it? Whate are you suggesting benching actually works other than chest and tris id dine properly ?
>>76713027>Whate are you suggesting benching actually works other than chest and tris id dine properly ?lats >but i got doms injury is not sign of exercise well done>but i got doms on pecs never got doms on lats from benching? i did :D back when i was retarded and benched >>76713020>>76712863
>>76711575Clenching my shoulder blades behind completely fixed all shoulder pain and i bench 3.2pl
>>76713035Never from a barbel bench press ever, once have i hit lats. Only chest and tris. If i do incline it hits upper, decline hits lower. I did get doms in my chest and lats and delts from experimenting with dumbell press. It's all about form.
>>76712863TIL that the bot schizo is a benchlet. Lol, lmao even. Everything makes sense now.
>>76711575I fucked my left shoulder by spamming db incline bench. Ill fucking do it again. Fight me
>>76713039lies >>76713042bullshit >>76713044yes bot i have banished bench, barbell entirely >>76713046u can only blabber bot pecs, for free, no shoulder strain whatsoever: >>76712863
>>76713055>pecs, for free, no shoulder strain whatsoever:>>>76712863 (You)abs for free, new and improved dragon flag variant that actually works abs: >>76712957
>>76713055>bullshitOnly way i hit delts with a chest is through wide grip pushups. Problem is probably in your grip. Different lifts can work for different peoole in different ways, especially when considering variation in levels of fitness of different areas of the body, form, experience.Benching i always thought was straight forward but technically the first time i benched i had a football coach showing me form.
>>76713074>deltsMeant lats.
>>767130559h and another important factor can be length of arms. People's anatomies are not 100% identical.
>>76713074>Different lifts can work for different peoole in different ways, especially when considering variation in levels of fitness of different areas of the body, form, experience.no bot, pecs can't be worked successfully in bench cause muscle snags on rib-cage cause shoulders are retracted COMPLETELY REGARDLES of individual differences bot >>76713219>another important factor can be length of armswhat does arm lenght has to do with shoulder position in bench ? NOTHING pecs, completely free of charge and injurious nonsense: >>76712863
>>76713336That's wierd, because benching grew my chest multiple times in life. You have skill issues. You once demanded another anon post body during an arument like that proves something. If you really feel like that the only reason you wont post body is your a dyel who has theoretical knowledge, but little practical knowledge from actual experience.
>>76713354whatever grew was misshapen and injured and shortened (fucking up posture and life in general) and fragile and not all the way to sternum with berserk-like teeth in the middle and of course shoulders are fucked form bench, no there are no exceptions bot >>76713354>You once demanded another anon post body during an arument like that proves something.that's you bot>>76713097 every thread i am posting in numerous times per thread - bot boty lol
>>76713374Wrong again, dyel schizo, narcissist.
>>76713401The more you post. The mor people realize you are retarded. Good day, sir. Sun is up.
>>76712963>there is no proper way bot :D it's and bad lift, that's all :D>i didn't bench properly and i'm a genius therefore it's impossibleNot saying this for you since you're irredeemable but if you retract shoulder blades every time and arch back a little, if you have normal physiology there's nothing bad about it. You can still overexert and hurt yourself like you can with ANY lift.
>>76713410Not him obviously, but such text descriptions are so fucking useless.We live in 2025 yet I can't get a fucking 3D model with xray showing perfect form/muscle activation/ideal speed/maximum theoretical ROM/efficient ROM/optimal ROM in a lift in 3 different model varieties that make it much easier if you identify as one of:>chad>woman>dyel manlet
>>76713414lie downflex bicepslean to lefttry to put your right elbow in your ass cracklean to rightleft elbow
>>76713417>lie downI don't get it
>>76711579I need to do more of these on my pull day, thanks mate
>>76711603Have you tried dumbbells? They fixed all the issues I had with regular benching.
>>76713832nah bro no cap dumbbells are for DYELs
>Try a more narrow grip>Pain goes away>Have added 40 pounds to the lift since then
