>Who is /fat/ for?For obese ballers working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?Eat more meat.1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros) or LoseIt (great for both).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 1g per lb of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and burn fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body burning away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat hyper-processed foods.Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gyno & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious >>76911499
October 1: 249Today: 222 >lost 2 lbs since yesterday. Feels good, man
starting weight: 118.1 kg 20/8current weight: 91.5 kg 12/12goal weight: 70 kgheight: 179 cmmethod: rolling 72s with water and coffee
Getting under 200lbs is like pulling teeth for me.
>>76917033>weeks of proper dieting and always staying below or exactly at 1500kcal>sister goes out to costco>comes home with this fucking shit>look up how much 1 is, its ~260 caloriesfucking christ it smells like heaven but a single one will destroy any chance of meeting my protein quota whilst staying at 1500 kcal, fuck.
>>76917074walk away, it's barely worth calling a croissant, trust me I'm french
>>76917065reduce food to 600 cal for a week>>76917074eat an egg and bacon croissant sandwich with 3 eggs and 4 bacons
under 360 for the first time in years. Don't feel any urge to give up and quit either. It...might be happening bros...
>>76917098join fatty contest
>>76917074She did this… on purpose! That stupid whore bought bread when you’re on a very serious diet! Now you have to eat it and it is her fucking fault. Might as well grab a few.
Remember to act today towards your goal.Good luck fatty bros
>be me>be fat>sign up for gym after getting bored doing calisthenics in my room>go for a bit>actually enjoy it>number go up, neuron activation>eventually decide to get a personal trainer to help out with free-weight stuff so I don't hurt myself by being a retard>first session last tuesday>talk with them a bit about goals and shit like that>get some baseline measurements like weight and size of my arms, chest, gunt, etc>get to legs>"Dang anon I'm kinda jealous, your legs are looking pretty good"At least one part of me benefitted from being a fatty all this time. Walking and hiking a lot when I was losing the majority of my weight helped too probably.It was supremely motivating. Keep at it fatties.
uhh...guys? Is it a problem that I can see my balls before I see my dick when I look down?
>lay's and jam tarts>887kcalsit's over
>>76917325you just have really big balls, anon.
>>76917341oh...guess I should be happy about this? The globes just hang and bounce more than a normal person, kinda inconvenient tbqh
>>76917356Testicular torsion bros report in>t. Got mine jumping on a trampoline when I was 8. Luckily the doc was good at fondling little boys nuts bc he managed to untwist them with his hands so I didn’t need surgery
Are you guys proud of me
>>76917388yes. very proud.post how you did it because i'm stuck at 190 and starting to be disillusioned with the CICO shit
>>76917421not him but i reduced to 600cal and i broke past 190. this is my second day in the high 80s
>>76917333At your height in theory the upper limit would be about 200lbs or so at 20% fat.OP says to have 1 gram per lb of goal lean mass, so that would be about 160g.
>>76917033>go on vacation>eat like a bottomless black hole every day>drink like a fish every night>gained 5lbs>slowly lost it back over the course of this month and lastFolks, there is an end, once you've settled into maintainence, you can splurge and return!
Fatty ContestFatdew114.2kg3 weeks long plateau seems to be slowly ending, though not fast enough for my liking.
>>76917421Its getting harder, but only seeing 1-1.5 lb a week at around 1200 calorie deficit. Thinking about bumping down to 800 calories for the next few months to get to my GW.
>at the point where when I make a "duckface" I can see my face looking like picrel's cheek areaDamn wtf, now I kinda understand why people used to do that silly pose in pictures. I think I need to lose like 10-ish more kg to become model tier good looking
>>76917074croissants are just butter and sugar basically
>>76917531forgot pic
>>76917033After 3 months of no junk food I ordered 2 mcchickens and 2 fries and 2 small pepsis (all still within my calorie range) and I feel like I took an oxy like holy fuck I feel fucking all warm and fuzzy and amazing I missed this so much
>>76917388No, youre still fat.
>>76917571180lb is reasonable for someone who's like 6'2
>>76917588ntathat's still overfat
out here starvemaxxing 22 hours no food
>>76917588That dude is like 5'4" maxLooks like shit tooYou're all embarrassing
Lots of rudy poos here bros...
>>76917605Based
>>76917569I've been eating junk food in small amounts. If im off my diet by Christmas though (hopefully) I might get gingerbreads and candycanes to reintroduce myself to foodIf not, maybe chinese food.
>>76917388yes anon but YOU MUST LIFT. BECOME GIGACHAD
>>76917388Another -20 lbs -> bulk up and you're on your way kiddo
>finally reached the point where my waist is thinner than my hips and quadsBrehs... I can finally tuck my shirt in...
Fatty ContestKetoCurious358.4so fucking weird, I go all through thanksgiving week and only lose 1 pound, now the shit's just falling off (although it's probably water weight from eating carbs normally over that week).Going to do a 5-day fast starting next Wednesday, hopefully I can squeeze out the rest of the glycogen and really ramp up the ketone production
>>76917729you could have been doing that alraedy
>>76917795Never understood why fat fucks like Tony Soprano look so good fat If I had his body type I wouldn't even bother losing weight
>>76917806there's some muscle underneath
>>76917806It's his chin. People with elite bone structure look better fat.
>>76917806This guy died?
challenge run idea:You can't eat until you get a job
>>76917480When you watch old sitcoms, read old comics, other slice of life kind of things and they reference “holiday weight” they mean the extra lbs you’d put on by grabbing a treat here and there from nov-dec. By that they mean like, 5 lbs. Nothing you couldn’t hide with a sweater and work off again in January.
>>76917847You know most of us here are normalfags right
>>76917746Do what you’d like m8 but at your size you might as well just cruise on noob gains for a while before worrying about any of those approaches. You’re going to be at this for the better part of 2 years, no need to rush.
>>76917831yeah his chin is so large it looks weird when he's lean, but when he has a little bit of neck fat it makes the chin look more proportional. this is one of the few instances where someone actually looks better fat (at least their face)
>>76917840dude he's been dead for like 20 years
>>76917806>Never understood why fat fucks like Tony Soprano look so good fatpeople have changed what "fat" means over the years. Back when the Sopranos were on his build was classified as fat, nowadays that's barely overweight, not even in the obese category
>>76917840No? He was in the Sopranos prequel
Fatty ContestDemoralized105.9kgI was actually lighter yesterday but contest hadnt been reset yet, so we'll go with this for today. Still happy, in the 105's like I had hoped for.
>>76917866you're probably right, but I wanted to use this as more of a test of willpower and to see how far I can go. If I end up having to abort and sip some bone broth on day 3 then so be it, not trying to treat it as a huge "make or break" thing
>>76917795don't care how sloppy it looks to have my shirt untuck, I'll never tuck it until I have the belly of a normal person
>haven't eaten like a pig for 37 whole daysare you guys proud of me?
>>76917969Are you seeing progress?
>>76917979yes, my progress is that I haven't eaten like a pig for 37 whole days
>>76917033yo dawg I lost like 15 pounds but it's too damn slow I want it to go faster hurry up hurry up. just want to move on with life already.
>>76917980Is your stethoscope turning into the color of bling gold? We are proud of you!
>>76917985it's all a matter of tdee vs calories consumed.
>>76918008yeah I know but I just wish I could turn it up a notch without any effort. not going to ever be an ozempig tho so I guess it's just as well.
>>76917903>not logging in your lightest weight of the week
>>76917969yes. very proud
>>76918008Is this an AI image that's supposed to be a Pepe? I can see his forehead and eyebrows.
>>76918027it's just an image of tea being poured. No pepe la grenouille.
>>76917074kick her ass
>when you're so addicted to food that watching TV instead of eating is a step up for you
>>76917849I just ate for a week like I did when I was 245 lbs. 2-3 meals a day eating out and housing every bite, no leftovers, full sugar sodas, etc.
I'm going to sleep now. When I sleep, I cannot eat. If I don't eat, I lose weight.
>>76917484115lbs? You need to see a doctor mate, you’re going to die. That’s an eating disorder
>>76917033Just remember bros, no food will ever taste as good as being fit feels
>>76918106I wish I had a neverending sensation of needing to be fit instead of the sensation of needing a little cesars pizza
Starting Monday:>lifting 4x a weekper day:>deli ham + mozzarella - 200 kcal >2 cups whole milk - 300 kcal>1 scoop of whey - 130 kcal>2 oz raw beef liver - 80 kcal>unlimited diet soda + white monsters
>>76917969You inspired me to watch this little thing hete, and it should really be included in the OP.https://youtu.be/6YdXp7Dr0RI?si=LaaMHV9lpOu8rJ_-
>>76917669Confession time, I've never had chinese food
>>76918105On a scale of 8-10 how retarded would you describe you are?
TFW ate ~2650 cals every day for a week + cheat evening (so it probably averages at like 2800+ and I actually lost 0.6kg compared to one week ago. I thought it would be over my maintenance, so I'm kinda surprised I haven't even rebound on glycogen and so on. Dunno if I should bump up calories or keep eating the same amount to gauge it better. 97,3kgt. that guy with a dirty mirror that ended a psmf recently
>>76918154I'm eating grapes, quark, cherry tomatoes, ice cream and mudcake as I'm eating this.
>>76918163i think he only looked at the pic.
>>76918197Yes, that is pure retarded behavior. Thus I'm asking him if he knows he's retarded or not. Other things point to it as well.Many such cases.
>only ate 1150 calories today>feel disgustingly fullis this what normal people feel like all the time?
>>76918182CICO isn't the whole story, my man.eating less lowers TDEE. eating more increases TDEE.hormones and a bunch of other shit play a major role that is never brought up because it's hard and complicates things.
>>76918139the white monster ultras have no right tasting as good as they do
>>76918211yesi wish i had money for GLPshit.
>>76918212while it's probably true I doubt these other circumstances are a very dramatic factor for predictable results unless you're a growing teenager or in a coma
>>76918182weigh yourself every 13 days and make the necessary micro adjustments (your TDEE doesn't stay static, anon)
>>76918222>I doubt these other circumstances are a very dramatic factordo you think naturally thin people have to actually think about how much they're eating and consciously stop themselves from eating too much?the body autoregulates this via hormones and shit.simplest example is diabetics who take insulin injections gaining fat.
>>76918213I’ve never had white monsters I thought they were a meme. What do they taste like? I had a monster once, don’t remember what flavor it was, but it tasted like a really shitty 4loco without the alcohol
>>76918236I think thin people might be a combination or not using food as a stable dopamine source, having a lower appetite by default and some lifestyle characteristics.>>76918233There's a lot of guesswork in that even if your calorie tracking is very on point. I think one should focus on maintaining some trend over time with occasional adjustments to at least try to keep a stable pace. I'd guess lean bulk should be most importantly careful and slow even if it warrants occasional weight drops or weight stalls week to week. Shit, losing calories is way easier to plan.
>>76918216Go to the doctor and say you’re an alcoholic. You can get a your prescription covered by insurance even if you don’t for the morbidly obese criteria
>>76918264at least to me the normal green monsters are fucking disgusting, but the boomer fuel white ones are manna from heaven
>>76918265and the combination is 90% having lower apetite by default and 10% lifestyle characteristic and "not using food as a stable dopamine source".
>>76918213I used to drink original monster and thought the white tasted weird, but now im a boomer a white monster at the start of a gym session hits pretty good.
>>76918024Its fine. As long as line goes down a little each week it will give me the motivation to continue.
Anyone in here dabbled in psmf? Was watching a vid and suggested to try it for four days to lose up to 10lbs. I can be discipline for four days, but i feel like i would brick up my digestion eating 300-400g of protein a day.
>>76918296>try it for four days to lose up to 10lbswater weight.some anon was doing it. another one in this thread right now!
>>76918196I enjoy a coffee and a dlice of cske of the day on Saturday mornings. But I ride my bike 15kms each way for it. Its just a little thing i look forward to now each week. I sit in the park, post my weigh in and read through the overnight /fat/ posts. Its relaxing. I think im in better shape mentally and physically now than when i was a slop consuming /pol/tard
>>76918296if you want to lose all your water weight just switch to keto
>>76918313I paid for a keto plan once but didnt feel so good eating do much fat, maybe i could try again
>>76918322>I paid for a keto plan oncedon't pay for anything.>but didnt feel so good eating do much fat, maybe i could try againdon't try again.just go low carbs. cut all the goyslop and minimize carbs or cut them entirely.no need to stuff your face with fats if it didn't work for you.
>>76918305You certainly sound like it, I got a shiver of totally comfy vibes reading what you wrote, twice. Gotta put some funky bass groove on. Stay warm, fren, you da man!
>>76918322>paid for a keto plan
>>76918322>didnt feel so good eating do much fatlol?wtf were you eatingI feel like shit when I eat carbs
I jogged 2laps around my local park yesterday. First time ive tried running since high school. I found a list of goals I wrote down around this time last year and this was one of them, I thought id get half a lap and go from there but felt good snd knocked out 2. This was on grass, and im still 230lbs, so weary of my knees, bug seemed fine. More motivation now to lose weight, not just to see scale go down each week
>>76918337Eggs, bacon, lettuce, tomato, fatty ground beef and cheese mostly. It was so much cheese though. Like 100g shredded on top of eggs snd cream
>>76918341no milk? how many calories a day were you aiming for
>>76918344I cant really remember. Ill look it up when im at my pc.
>>76918338Going smoothly!
>>76918347Yeah idk what to tell you, my diet is similar but I aim for ~2k calories a day. usually a day for me is like:>wake up, coffee with milk>wait until lunch, 3 eggs + 2/3 sausage links (~700-900 calories total)>that keeps me full until dinner>dinner is either 2 hamburger patties (1/3rd pound each) with cheese, or a patty + cheese and more eggs>If I'm hungry I snack on yogurt / pork rinds / some fruits (bananas and strawberries mostly) or drink more coffeeif I add shit like rice it makes me feel worse.
>>76918364I might just try your way for a week sounds good. Lots of butter too I remember. Do you use mct oil at all?
>>76918368>Do you use mct oil at all?no I don't bother cooking with oil, the most I'll use is a tablespoon of butter with my eggs or avocado oil spray. shit like sausage or ground beef already has enough fat that I never need to add more to the pan.
>>76918364interesting. nta but after being on keto for a few months it just felt more natural to go OMAD on top of it, since you feel so satiated and full all the time, I found if I got my meal out of the way in the morning I could coast the rest of the day with barely any hunger pangs
>still got some fat left to go, like 3/4kg>ribs are starting to poke through the skinwhat type of hellish body type is this, hungry ethiopian child?
>meme scale said my visceral fat went downCool
>>76918264White monsters are good because as far as synthesized fruit-like flavors go, its very neutral. It isnt really anything specific but its still pleasant to drink.It would be like if you had a peach flavored MONSTER ZERO ULTRA and an actual peach - you know that you are merely drinking a facsimile of peach flavor.
I ate like a pig yesterday.So all I ate today were 2 apples and some coconut skyer.Did I redeem myself?
>>76918449No. Do 100% more cardio next week.
>>76918265i disagree that there is guesswork. there should be very little guessing if you are keeping track of things and being honest about it. every couple of weeks for the typical person won't see much variance and can/will default to whatever their number is at the time. but having them checking in more frequently with their TDEE prevents wasting time with unnecessary stalls
How much do the tests to find out my exact daily calorie burn cost? Anyone done them before?
Fatty ContestBostonBeachedWhale392lbsAnother week down.I was 391 earlier this week but have been sitting at 392 since. Seems the rapid loss might be stalling for now. Been doing a deficit of 1200 to 1500 per day. Haven't gone above 2000 since Thanksgiving. Trying not to get into my head about it slowing down, I knew it would happen eventually.Shirt felt looser today, so that was good.Blocked out my face this time since it was bothering some folks.
why are you bothering with eating if you're doing that large of a deficit? pick a lane ya fucking whale
>>76918504My TDEE is 3163, anon.A 1500 deficit is 1663 calories eaten.
>>76918526It's not. If your heart beats a bit faster, if you get emotional, if you see dreams it's likely a few kcal higher. What yours is is theoretical TDEE, not precise factual.
>>76918541Fair, but my point still stands that because I'm starting from such a high weight, even with a big deficit of 1500 I'm still eating a decent amount.
>>76918236>naturally thin people I remember college orientation, first time I was away from home with agency. One of the events was going out for pizza and ice cream at a locally famous spot and my fat ass obviously signed up. Hung out with a few other normal and thin people, made sure I didn’t order/eat more than they did to not be conspicuous tee hee. We ended up hanging out the rest of the day and getting dinner together at the dining hall. Being a fatass I loaded up my tray with a “normal” dinner and was surprised these other 18 yr olds just got salads, iced tea etc. >gotta be careful after pizza and ice cream for lunch haha Blew me away that people had the willpower to do that. I lost a ton of weight freshman year just observing and imitating normal eating habits of healthy people
>>76918562kinda sad it's taken until my early 30s to get on the "salads are kind of awesome" train. Used to think they were universally awful, but now I eat one every day
>>76918570Nothing beats fresh pico de gallo with Mexican spiced chicken mince. Mexican and Spanish couisines have such good recipes for salad alternatives. I never liked French ones that much. If I was able to I'd also store all locally produced stuff in olive oil, like the OG spics do. Italian and Russian couisines work best during the winter.
I'm gonna be honest bros.My main reason for wanting to not be fat anymore isn't a health reason.It's because I want to fuck fat girls and they don't like fat guys.
>>76918562>things that totally really happened
I keep failing my cut but in a weird way its working as a recomp. My weight stays within a range of 5 pounds but I keep getting stronger at the gym.
>>76918526your tdee is higher because of your exercise....right anon? or is not eating your effort lmAO
>>76918676SailRabbit has the TDEE for his weight actually being 3,209 on Katch.Add in exercise and he should be aiming even higher.
My main reason for wanting to not be fat anymore isn't a health reason.It's because I want to be fucked by other guys.
I haven't been able to hit my protein goal while aiming for 900 calories, I usually end up at 950-1000. I just can't do egg whites or dry tuna. I suppose I can try a protein powder instead I guess, but I never liked those in the past.
Yummy
I gorged last week again..Up 10lbs but down 10lbs again.I just can't drop past the 100kg mark.
>>76918686same. i want to have sex with fat latina women. and fat white women. and fat indian women. and fat thai women
>>76918686Fag
>>76918703If you're gonna gorge don't let it be this slop bro...
>>76918690try a pound of ground chicken or ground turkey. For me a pound of ground chicken at publix is 600 calories and 84 grams of protein. Might be a good alternative
>>76918704One of my buddies got a fat Latina wife and he's become the happiest man I know.
>lose 30kg>still a blob
>>76918703ugh disgusting fat fuck. Your mac and cheese is offically a soup. Bake that shit next time get some of that moisture out. And eat away from your computer do you want to get ants?
>>76918720I'm trying to strike a balance where shoving the food into my mouth doesn't feel horrible, and it tastes kinda nice, even. Chicken is pretty much the only protein I eat, and I trim it always before cooking it.
>>76918747hard to go wrong with some boneless/skinless chicken thighs diced up and thrown into a bed of lettuce
>>76918727>officially a soupIt's a soup mac and cheese pack..
I ate bread again then immediately regretted it, just fucking 70g protein for nearly a 1000 cals and only 16 grams fiber, what a waste of space bread is man, at least i ended the day at 1350kcal
>>76918703I realised I was making omelets too thick, and they were coming out dry and fluffy. Now I make them thin as crepes, they cook in like 20seconds and taste delicious.
>>76918364How does this look like as a keto meal. Just looks like a greasy mess if im honest.
>>76918790Bread is the ultimate pre-workout. The right bread at least, not the cake you mutts call bread.
>>76918818im aussie ya dumb cunt, our bread doesn't expand like the memory foam those fatasses have
>>76918805I see the logic in it. It's that greasy because it's breakfast. I guess the recipes want you to have lots of fats in the morning. The recipe itself sounds like it came in the 2000s the latest, they've been improved over the years. You can also adjust them.
>>76918830>penal colony mutt trying to explain he's not a muttSure thing, abo. But guess what? The very cake on your plate isn't bread. Get some real bread. Make some real bread.
>>76918805that's unnecessarily excessive. Instead of all that extra milk and cheese just cook up a few slices of thick cut bacon in the pan, remove and plop your eggs into the bacon grease to cook. You can add some butter with it too if you'd like.Bacon takes care of the extra sodium you need from keto, the extra fat gets absorbed by the eggs and makes them extra flavorful, and it all works out great. If you want to incorporate some more fats grab yourself one of those single-serving packs of guac (or avocado mash if you prefer) and scoop it out into the eggs when they're almost done while you kill the heat. Makes it exceptionally creamy and gives it some more body
>>76918844fuck you ill look around for this "real bread" you people always go on about and ill see whats the big deal, this shit better give me an orgasm on the first bite
>>76917091>>76918341>>76918874is this some new meme or trollwhy are you pedalling bacon in the fatloss thread, its shitty macros/calories ratios compared to literally every other type of meat
>>76918882nope, keto is a very fat-forward diet, so things like bacon and fattier cuts of meat are preferred (plus they're tastier and cheaper, which is a plus)
>>76918885if you say so
>>76917388Gj anon
>>76918877Have fun sodomizing dinosaurs with your strange dildo frisbees and jumping rats, homo. If you get into doing sourdoughs they really help with digestion. Use as pre-workout for added gainz.
>>76918889How the hell are you fuckin faggots on these forum sites so stupid? Keto and high fat in place of carbs has been standard practice in sports and body building as a way to control fat (and increase endurance in some circles) for over a century, fuck even as far back as Rome. There are even specific times to use ketogenic dieting in an athletes year to maximize results. They use it to stop seizures for fuck sakes. Then some science nerds find out it starts making your body use ketones and explains the function and you fucking retards go "noooo it doesn't work, my teacher told me so and mondaleze agrees too".Modern psyoppery works too good on you fucking dumb internet culture victims
really only losing weight so I can get laid for the first time at 28but it's gonna take like a year before I'm even 'overweight' instead of 'obese'
>>76918918took me a while to break out of the "well fat is 'bad' so why does it say to eat so much of it?" mindset
>>76918921losing weight and getting into shape is definitely gonna help, but don't be surprised if women aren't throwing themselves at you like you think they should be once you get there. Unfortunately it's not that simple
>>76918921You made the conscious decision to be the way you are, to tell time goodbye and make it hard. Now you live with the consequences of those decisions. Understanding those, never blaming external forces and taking responsibility for yourself is a good start.
27h into a fast and I just spent 3 grueling hours digging up two tree stumps in my dad's backyardI better lose a few pounds this week ffs
>>76918928true, but I'm hoping it'll at least make it easier to be confident>>76918931well I've been like this since I was a little kidbut you're right. I have to take control of my situation
>>76917847>get a job>in this economyI'll die before then.
>>76918979Auto insurance, claims department.Easy job.
>>76918964>I better lose a few pounds this week ffsMost of them will be water weight. Not to mention that you'll lose muscles as well. Better to eat a high protein diet while staying under TDEE
>>76919013muscle loss while fasting isn't real
>>76919018How so?
>>76919018Nah, it's definitely real
O_OI hope I get my hormones better when I lose all my breast fat.
>>76919041ywnbarw
>>76919018You lose the muscle your body can't repair while malnourished, body will autophagy it into energy. Ketosis takes a long time, you're not only burning fat for energy.
>>76919042bro I am a 40 BMI man with hairy breast. My libido is gone. I can't even jack off under 5 minutes anymore. It takes me like 2 hours to jack off.
>>76919042Roadwarrior?
>>76919031fasting puts your body into the deepest ketosis possiblehigh concentrations of ketones (even higher than while doing a zero carb diet) prevent muscle degradation2-3 days into a fast you get a massive spike of HGH and IGF-1 equal to low doses of steroids (which remain higher than baseline following weeks after breaking the fast)the vast majority of muscle loss in controlled studies up to 10 days fasting occurs in the first 1-2 daysalmost every study observing muscle loss during a fast has demonstrated that participants regain 95% of muscle lost while fasting the following week provided they eat enough proteinfew things to note:- being in a caloric deficit is inherently catabolic (you will always lose more muscle whether fasting or in a deficit, at least compared to a surplus or maintenance)- every study demonstrating significant muscle loss during a fast that wasn't regained restricted patients from exercising, or they were bedridden (also a great way to lose muscle even while eating)
It seems to me that you might lose "lean body mass" by your muscles obvously burning through all the glycogen in them. But otherwise it does seem silly that your body would break down its own muscle fibers. I think fasting is probably a lot less bad for your muscles than people say it is. But I also think fasting is just a bad dieting method for the vast majority of people who will find it far too uncomfortable vs a moderate calorie deficit sustained over many days.
>>76919081Nothing in your body is permanent, the least the soft tissues such as fat or muscle, and thus need constant repair. All of your body grows and renews constantly. What happens to your muscles, if you take a break from lifting? Both fat and muscle serve more functions than just one, muscles store energy just as fat does. Fat has more functions than just storing energy, insulation for one. Since those are easier to repair than say bones, they get used first. Then the brain.
>>76919018This. I was super jacked in my 20s. Became an alcoholic, got sober years later in my thirties and regained all of my strength and then some within a few months. In the alcoholic times I would workout sporadically maybe hardcore for a week every few months
>>76919146The main thing is to start early. I started working out and lifting when I was 12 for football. If you build up early it is very hard to lose no matter how much you try and abuse your body
>>76919081Muscle cells are extremely calorie intensive to maintain and very heavy, why wouldn't humans evolve to get rid of them when it's starving? And then there's edge cases like cold climates where the insulation from fat may be more important to protect than the muscle.Not to mention muscle is the body's only internal source of glucose, it literally has no other option unless you want to enter a coma.
A family that prays together and lifts together stays together
bought a roast chicken currently eating it like a caveman with a side of broccoli. Also bought a small lamb leg on the bone which I am going to try in the slow cooker for shredded proteins. I am really trying to up the protein and cut back on carbs a little, I think this will be good for my body./
>>76918196>eating while eating
If you dont track, is there something you keep on hand to eat when you really feel like you havent eaten enough calories for the day? Like an emergency food that wont derail your progress
>>76919194Chicken noodle soup. Will fill you up with basically no calories. Preferably homemade. Get little glass jars from the store, fill with soup, save for emergencies. Soup is your friend. Don’t forget this
>>76918692looks like a cronenberg film
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>>76919225You've found a way to take it up a notch, mirin. Thats something I couldnt do, got to about 97kg and just spun my wheels until ultimately i was back up to around 105. Cant remember if you've ever posted a goal weight you want to hit, or just going to keep going and see.
I'm just DJing my workout playlists r.n. What are you guys doing to improve your fat losses?
>>76919232>You've found a way to take it up a notchI think I may have found the perfect solution for me. It involves:> 4¬6h eating window> 0.5:1:1 macro ratio (carbs, protein, fat)> 2.2k kcal max> fasted training> Pull ups/Dips before CardioBut most importantly, my holidays ended so I'm back to work. That means burning extra 1¬2k calories from moving around in cold storage warehouse.>Cant remember if you've ever posted a goal weight you want to hit, or just going to keep going and see.I did mentioned on few occasions how I want to hit 87 before Christmas. It's gonna be a miracle if I pull it off. Either way, I'll stick around for one more Leg just to see if it's possible to go down to 80. Navy Calculator would have me believe my lean mass is at 75 and I can see my ribs when shading is right. I may be pushing my luck here.
>>76919241I dont think you can go wrong with EastNewSound.
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Passed the mythical 15%bf mark and definitely in the best shape of my life. Someone I know said 'you're going to stop soon right?'
>>76919364post physique
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>>76919464Fatty Contestlooxmaxretard200673.9kg
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Do any of you eat any of your exercise calories back? I think some people say a third of the calories?
>>76919536I'm having a 1500kcal meal after workout.Still losing weight daily.Whatever you heard is probably some bogus myth.
>>76919536lmao ngmi
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i will try to get into low carbs again to see if i can break the 6 week stall.i only consoomed coffee this morning.
>>76918296yes, I lost around 8kg (probably including water weight) in around 6 weeks of psmf with 1 refeed a weekI didn't adher 100% bc I would add some treat every day (like a few nuts or a little bit of dark chocolate or an occasional eggs or two to not go crazy)I was losing around 1kg a week after the initial fast loss stage, my caloric intake was probably a little over 1000 cals a dayyou def don't need 300-400g of protein, even 200 would be probably plentyI felt surprisingly alright most of the time except for the post-cheat days when I had actual dopamine crashes and sometimes felt depressed, so my advice would be to keep your refeeds sane and structured so you won't yank your hormones too much
>down to 187 from 230>think I'm finally seeing some thinningI suppose I should be happy but everything else in my life is garbo
>>76919712Find solace in the fact that atleast that part of your life isn't garbo anymore and hope that the rest will follow suit.
>>76918477Good job not eating like a pig anon!
>>76919733Oh, I guess I mean Good job not eating like a whale anon!
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>>76918726a smaller blob
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>>76919536It's hard to track how much you burn via exercise. Most calculators/devices overestimate a lot. People rate their effort levels too high too. And your body compensates in a lot of ways so you end up not burning as much throughout the rest of the day. If you're very conservative with how you count it, you can eat a bit more. But for us fatties, it's easy to over do it, so it's not recommended.
scale droppedfinally starting to drop my stored water/glycogen
>>76919367My mom says I look like a male supermodel
>>76919922why do you even do this ?https://www.robbinsplasticsurgery.com/lets-talk-man-boobs-gynecomastia?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=yandexsmartcamera
>>76919536Never ever count your exercise calories if you're trying to lose weight. You will never lose weight that way.The only people who should be doing that are like, elite level athletes.If you dont wanna do the TDII calculator just do your current weight x 10 then subtract 1000. Thats your budget.
>>76919149>why wouldn't humans evolve to get rid of them when it's starving?uhh...because it makes it less likely you'd have the strength to solve your starvation issue?
>scale no longer says OL when I stand on itdamn progress feels good
>>76919933Why do you have to bring up my gyno? Thanks anon… real cool
Cheat day food.Also, down 27kg.
>>76919989Chicken liver and bamboo shoots?
>>76919954Jogging after an animal then stabbing them with your buddies doesnt require much muscle.
>>76920011>source: my ass
>>76919998Chicken breast
>>76920015Long distance runners are skinny and not very muscular.
>>76918918>Keto and high fat in place of carbs has been standard practice in sports and body building as a way to control fat (and increase endurance in some circles) for over a century, fuck even as far back as Rome. There are even specific times to use ketogenic dieting in an athletes year to maximize resultsi'm gonna need some sources, chief.not saying you're wrong because cutting carbs worked on every single person i know that tried it.
176, lowest I've been since high school. We're so back
BMI of 26 now. Gotta reach 25 by new year.
>>76919225good job dzonnywaiting for a physique update
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havent eaten in 36 hours just woke up feeling euphoric
>>76920068just wait anon, once you get past the 72 hour mark you feel genuinely unstoppable
>>76919856literally all you need to do is track your weight and calories. if you went from 200 to 198 joggin an hour a day and eating say 2500 calories your tdee would be 3500 calories. Is that from jogging or the rest of the day who knows but if you dont jog you can apply the same sort of logic, jogging would burn about 1000 calories in this instance so your tdee would be 2500. You would just have to find how much you are burning but you can get away with an average and you probably already can figure out this with your current data you have
>>76919697>more than halfway through the day>700kcals of chicken and milkyep. i think i'll be back on track.
>>76919712nigga just hop on fin and you'll be fine, balding has become an IQ check since its already been solved
>>76919464>>76919466gaay but cuute
>>76917033i ate 5 eggs at 10am and eat 3 at 6pmwith potassium saltand drink a lot of waterno sugar no sodiumall good
>>76920151Anon my hair is fine Thinning as in visibly losing fatReally I wish my hairline was my biggest concern
Why aren’t (You) misomaxxing?>So rich in umami it induces satiety almost instantly >Full of essential amino acids, B-vitamins, iron>Packed with probiotics>30-60 calories at worst>Counteracts the worser parts of rice>2 ingredients and hot water is all you need Literally just get dashi miso paste and wakame. Maybe tofu and canned tuna too if you really want it. It’s great to break your fasts or sip before a small meal (preferably a cup of rice with natto for even more fermented goodness) to curb appetite. A single bowl of miso soup makes me feel so full it’s insane
>be me>be 262 lbs, 5’ 8”>walk 30k steps a day and do omad for like 2 months>get down to 230>buy gym membership nov 1>ppl split >hover around 225-217, losing weight and gaining>eat 1.5-2k cals, 120-200g protein everyday>see noticeable difference in arms and shoulders, get bigger and more defined>not losing stomach tho or losing weight at the rate i want toshould i eat less cals?>picrel me last week, don’t mind retarded tattoos i’m retarded 26 year old drug addict with 10 months cleanused to drink everyday and do drugs, now on the good path
>>76920190>misoyou mean poop?
>>76920217>1 month of liftingdon't lower your calories. just stick to lifting and the same caloroes until you can't see any more muscle or strength changes in the gym.then you can start thinking about cutting calories.you still have a couple of more months of newbie gains and strength gains should still continue for some time after that.
>>76920217You want to lift a bit more (3-4 months total) until you plateau, then start a cut.
>>76920237KekNo Asirpa, I don’t mean osoma
>>76919198>chicken, oil and wheat flour>basically no caloriesYeah bro
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>lose some weight>also lose strengthIt's ogre I'm losing muscle aren't I...
>>76920217Are you Indian or a different flavor of brown?
>>76920316bro?your lifting?your protein sparing?
12 hours leftThe weekend breaks me
>>76920324Obviously I'm lifting if I notice my strength going down. Yeah and 200g protein a day. It's ogre.
>>76919922they fucked up the nipples a bit I think
In the past I didn't drink one month every year to prove to myself I have it under control. Now I don't drink at all really, but I'm considering fasting periodically. Not to lose weight, but to prove that I have agency. Does anyone do this? I haven't thought about it much, but I figured maybe one day a month.
>5:30pm >2000kCal left
>>76920375are you on a fast?
>right eyelid drooping for months>go on vacation back home and eat maintenance for two days>eyelid no longer droopingIdk if its my diet or my home but something caused it... very okashii... then again I was doing 1200 calories for months on end so maybe that has had a very negative effect on my nervous system
>>76920379No I just woke up late and didn't have time to eat.
>>76920413It's called ptosis. Basically it means you definitely have brain tumors that put pressure on the third nerve. See a doctor. It could also be nothing, I don't want to make you worry unnecessarily.
>>76920343Tell me about your weekly lyft plan, what style (volume & intensity) and rest schedule. Also how big of a deficit are you running, how many times do you eat per day, and when do you usually lyft during the day?
>>76920279Lol you’re retarded. No wonder you’re fat.>wheat flour? Oil? wtf kind of chicken soup are you making???
>>76920445Fullbody every day :^)I donno my deficit. My BMR is like 1.8k and I eat 2-2.1k a day.I walk 4-8 miles in the morning doing 50 minutes of heavyhands during it. Then I will have my first meal, sometimes its just a shake and a fruit. Then I work out, then I drink another shake. Then I walk the dog, 1.5-2 miles. Dinner is my big meal. Sometimes in the evening I will jog 30 minutes if I am still hungry so I can eat more.
Could be a good thing. Ive seen people on chemo who have wasted away into skeletons.
Fasting is kinda nutsI can lose these last few pounds and get down to 12% bf and get hollow cheeks as long as I have the discipline to go ~ 1.5 weeks total without eating
>>76920470sure but can you then stay at that weight?
>>76920456he made you look a right fucking moron, anon. You literally said noodles, and no, nobody believes you use zuchini noodles or some shit like that.
>>76920424>you definitely have a brain tumor>could also be nothing tee hee xD, don't want you to worry
>>76920497
thats not funny man my gerbil died that way
>>76920513Your gerbil had ptsosis? I'm so sorry
>>76920459Cardio and workouts don't mix too well, also doing a fullbody every single day will just result with your body trying to repair everything and failing at it. Your CNS is likely very fatigued too on top of the muscle loss.You're at a crossroads where you need to do big alterations based on what you want. The fasted state cardio is good for fat burn, but lifting without proper rest & not giving the muscle groups enough time to heal is just counterproductive (insane). Lifting and cardio should have a 4-6h delay from each. You should have enough glycogen in your muscles for the workout and let fat just be the auxiliry source.Where do you want to go from here?
>>76920375>one hour has passed>1000kCal left
>>76920528Pretty sure its fine the way it is. I just gave up caffeine 5 days ago so I'm a just more lethargic than usual. Surely it will sort itself out in a week or two.
>>76920537Good sailing, retard bro.
>>76920479WTF is wrong with noodles? Are you retarded? Do you not understand the concept of calories?
>>76920537>literally everybody ese understands that rest is important>decide not to restbased retard, keep it up
>>76920530Time to gulp 18 pints of beer, eat fermented herring as a salty snack & hit a pizza place & curry truck for a late evening snack, amIrite?
>>76920547Only need 24-48 hours of rest for muscles to recover.>imagine not training your muscles everyday so they adapt to a 24h recovery window
>>76920546Please repeat your original post
>>76920549>imagine not training with full volume and intensity without breaks or food 24/7 the ride never ends
>>76920556Also imagine considering walking cardio and not active recovery.
>>76920554Im not engaging with your pilpul. I don’t put oil or wheat flour in my chicken noodle soup. I use those jew egg noodles which may contain some wheat flour but what difference does it make? Not everyone is some dysgenic mongoloid that can’t digest wheat
>>76920548That's what my subconscious wants, but I will listen to my conscious brain only. The planned calories for the rest of the day do however include a beer and a small portion of tiramisu, I am not perfect.
>>76920560>dysgenic mongoloid that can’t digest wheatWoah careful with the collateral zings bro.
>>76920560You seem really upset that you got called out. Please enlighten us about these egg noodles that have basically no calories.
>>76920559>imagine not lifting while doing cardio
>>76920560Egg noodles have virtually the same amount of calories as a wheat noodles. You getting upset and constantly trying to backtrack while spewing insults is not a good look. The fact is chicken noodle soup does not have "basically no calories"
>>76920560Oh, okay, you're the pilpul guy
>>76920570Chicken noodle soup has basically no calories. Even a big bowl has just a few hundred calories. Not everybody is drinking an entire pot in a sitting…. Prove me wrong
>>76920579>"basically no">"few hundred">"I use those Jew egg noodles">"may contain 'some' wheat flour">"basically no calories"Just stop posting
>>76920568NGL that’s pretty fucking based but they would look like spergs doing that in a full gym. Still better than the thots showing off their roast beef camel toes everywhere
>>76920559Walking is cardio. Active recovery is light cardio. Both are defined by heart rate and intensity, active recovery needs a whole other piece that is nutrients for the recovery part.
>>76920590You lost, just admit it. Shows the calories in an entire bag of noodles. Refuses to show calories of a bowl of homemade chicken noodle soup. Try harder next time, jew
>>76920597Look at the label again. I'm done here since apparently you can't even read. There's six servings in a bag.
>>76920599What TF does that have to do with a bowl of chicken noodle soup???
>>76920579Okay. I think we're talking past each other here. Just so we're clear, to you, 300 calories is "basically no calories". Did I get that right?
>>76920599Im actually shocked they have so few calories. Are you stating somebody takes an entire bag of noodles and puts it in some giant vat and calls that a bowl of chicken noodle soup?
>>76920606I mean I dump 300g of frozen veggies in a cup or two of chicken broth and eat a couple fruits a day that I don't count the calories from it so yeah I agree.
>>76920611Please answer the question. Don't use comparative analysis based on what you do and don't count. You inaccurately count calories and logging your food is not relevant to my question. It's a yes or no question. Answer yes or no.
>>76920606>>76920611Here, I’ll make it easy for you. The goyslop canned chicken noodle soup has 230 calories in a big can. Homemade has less than that. So one bowl of chicken noodle soup is less than 230 calories. That is basically no calories for a meal. I have lost so much weight in the past just eating chicken noodle soup
>>76920616It's so weird how you won't answer the question. It was a yes or no question. Let's ballpark it. 200 calories is "basically no calories", correct?
>>76920622For a meal? Absolutely. Three 200 calorie meals a deal is 600 calories in a day. That is basically no calories when you’re supposed to get over 2000
>>76920625Stop moving the goalposts and answer the question. Why do you keep adding premises Instead of answering yes or no.
>water fast + 2 oz beef liver a daythoughts?
>>76920636>fasting>eatingPick one
>>76920644>need 2000 calories a day to survive>only eat 100>WTF THAT'S NOT A FAST
Yeah, words have meanings
>>76920631Yes. 200 calories is basically no calories
>>76920658Okay, it's good to know that I can eat packs of Reese's cups with reckless abandon since they're basically no calories.
>>76920664Post pics of the devoured wrappers
>>76920656human body does not care about words and their meaning
>>76920682Good thing literally nobody said that they did.
>>76920672This sentence makes no sense.
>fasted all day till 18:00>can eat 20piece nuggies and a bar of chocolate and STILL be on deficitfeelsgoodman, i dont do this often but i felt like having some treats for 1 day.
>>76920697I was going to respond not to make this a habit, but then I read the rest of your post. Good on you, man.
My hatred fuels me
>>76920702Hatred of what?
>>76920697>cheating for chicken nuggets and chocolate bars
>>76920654so where is the cutoff, retard? 345 calories? 1000? 1345?
>>76920707i wanted something savoury AND sweet that i normally cant have, those were on the lower in calories side. keep in mind i've been eating lean beef and chicken with rice for months. these nugs and chocolate taste like heaven
>>76920707Also forgot to say>>cheatingI'm still with in my deficit with the nugs and the chcocolate bar, so its not really cheating.
>>76920704Girl I liked and started losing weight forShe told me she liked me when I was fat and we had this flirty thing going and then she did a complete 180 and started dating some other dude and she told me she never really liked me that much so now im gonna keep losing weight and get ripped and get a hotter gf
>>76920718That's pretty harsh, man. I hope things improve.
>>76920718>Girl I liked and started losing weight for
>>76920708studies show around 200-400sybau
>>76920729To me, fasting is not eating. I don't care what you think, especially when you're wrong.
>>76920718>get a gf
>>76920677I'm cheating with coconut milk on the chicken and rice. I eat chicken and rice almost every day.
>>76920810
>>76920694Even AI understands it, go ahead and try.
>>76920897>I ran something I said through an algorithm that told people to put Elmer's glue on pizza, and it said it sounded fine.You sure showed me!
>>76920929Are you saying you don’t put Elmer’s glue on your pizza?
how are you supposed to make your pepperoni stick?
>>76920953Honestly I use pic rel. they work really well and can add a festive and/ decorative element to any pie!
>>76920929>ITT: Tantrum throwing retard keeps throwing tantrumsDo one more!
>>76920972Sorry you're so upset
there is turkeys on my lawn!!!
A simple cabbage salad used to be my favorite, but it's inedible without oil for me, it's like eating rubber...I've tried vinegar, lemon juice, letting it rest overnight and it does little to fix that.Anyone done a kind of low-calorie salad dressing, maybe with a low-fat yogurt or something?I gotta find a way to get my fiber in without feeling miserable.
>>76921039How's it usually dressed? I'm not familiar.
>>76920729HAHAHAHAHAHAH POSTED ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT IRONY
>>76920718>talking to satan's spawncouldn't be me
>>76921039Try fermenting it, it's a thing. You can ferment it to the level that suits your tastebuds. Fermenting it too much will turn it really sour, like this guy >>76920973
>>76921090Olive oil, vinegar, salt, maybe a teaspoon of sugar.
fermented foods suppress my appetite. I try to sneak in some kimchi or saeurkraut whenever i can.
>>76921112Hmm. Not sure how you'd recreate that with low fat ingredients. Have you tried something like grated cheese? Grated aged cheese has a nice flavor profile and vinergary tang for about 20 calories per tbsp
>>76921129>hiding in a dark closet eating spicy cabbage
>>76921149I'm fine with not recreating it, that's why I figured some Skyr dressing of sorts would work.
>>76921157Oh OK. Yeah yogurt based dressings can be good. I'm partial to some nonfat skyr mixed with a bit of Dijon. Nice creamy kick. Hope you find something that works
>>76921157Fat free quark with black pepper and some pineapple? I'm high and simulating munchies-delish combos
>>76921165Thanks anon. Gonna get some Dijon yday and will post if I succeed.
>>76921168Nice. Be well.
>>76921157Make pico de gallo with pineapple, and mix that with the cabbage? Nothing like dressing a salad with a salad.
>>76921167>>76921177I'll do some calculations but I don't think I can fit pineapples into my budget, I'm hitting <20 net carbs every day.
>>76921036Turkeys look like dinosaurs. Consider it a blessing
I had a cheat day todayalmost 50cm thick doener kebab, some chips and popcorn and 3/4 of a cup of some ben&jerry's knockoffnot sure if I should just shrug it off and go back to my usual calories tomorrow or maybe aim for extra deficit
>>76920528This guy is 100% correct >>76920544And this guy>>76920547And this guyWork smarter not harder. You’re setting yourself up for failure. If you want a basic easy workout plan that is doable and won’t result in early failure try pic rel
>>76920718Kek buddy got dabbed on
>>76921234Always reminds me of the future Robot Cyborg Jesus venturing in the past, riding velociraptors into battle over the fields of Ra. He feasted on real dino, resembling half-ostrich/half-gator/half-kangoroo of the modern kind. Blessed be Jesus and the war for the Sun.
>>76921185You gotta fit in the pineapple, anon.
>>76921420I think I fucked up somewhere and now it's stuck in my ass, what do I do? It feels like a 100 bodkins are stuck back there.
>>76921656I suggest you try again. You. Must. Fit. Pineapple. In.
