>Who is /fat/ for?For Desert destroyers who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://old.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>77252057
>>77256588what a monster!
We’re free of the ai slop
>eat 1 meal a day about 1000 calories big meal of 90% lean meat and a bit of rice or veggies >feel fine, ravenously hungry if I stay up late, so just go to bed and wake up at a normal human time (bonus)>walk or bike at the gym every day (air conditioning, its extremely hot here) while listening to podcasts >down 25lbs since January with no real superhuman effortidk what was wrong with me before now, this is really quite easyI think I was just addicted to eating and snacking as something to do when bored or stressed
I don't think I can convey just how much I am looking forward to the first time my weight on the scale begins with 2.It's been at least 12 years. Most of that was spent in the 300+ range, then in the 400+ for the past two years.I hope everyone here is doing well this week.
>>7725659212 kg in 4 months while on a 1000 kcal low-carb/low-fat diet is an incredibly lame result.
Broke my fast today. Weighed 240 this morning, now 250. Made a thread on /ck/ about what I ate. Another 144 hour fast until next Sunday. 80 pounds to my goal weight of 160.>>>/ck/22014178
>>77256599>80 pounds to my goal weight of 160.Don't you mean 90 pounds?
>>77256599Is it usual to use single-use foil dishes? I've always wondered that. To me it gives the superior home cooked meal that cheap store bought bulk look.
>>77256631The only use case for them is taking home cooked food to other people's houses or events and not having to worry about losing your good containers/baking dishes. That's it.
>>77256595>I don't think I can convey just how much I am looking forward to the first time my weight on the scale begins with 2.320lb is 145kg. Now it begins with 1.
>>77256588lemonade... is it worth it?down almost 20 lbs, v pleased
>>77256638Very odd we don't see them in Europe... I mean we have the same tradition, but perhaps the amount of food is just so much smaller? And the containers are usually returned cleaned, a good reason for a continued visit. But that dish looks like something to cater a wedding. We'd use the professional steel ones or just a professional caterer in that case.
>>77256653I imagine professional catering does it for the same reason of not needing to manage dozens or hundreds of their dishes scattered across multiple events with hundreds of strangers at each one potentially stealing them. But also because the host paying for the catering would want to take home any leftovers anyway.
had my first real bad day while on a diet today>because i woke up to a 3 hour boner it wouldn't go away and was extremely painful like someone was stabbing me in the DICK(ive been to the hospital about this before they couldn't do SHIT to help me)so i ate about 2800cals because i just felt shitty after that all day.
Started getting a lot more likes on dating app (USA liberal medium pop city) since I lost weight.5'8, asian, initial weight 200 lbs, current weight 155. Because I'm asian, it fucked up my health 3-4x harder where I could barely get up the stairs and looked like the ugliest nigga known to mankind with some insane face fat. I got the most likes once that paper towel effect came into play, 200 to 175 was nothing other than fat off my belly (no likes), 175 to 166 was slightly more fat off my face and belly (no likes), 166 to 155 was where I made the most face gains, got 3 likes in less than 48 hours but I decided to pause my account because I'm traveling soon.The goal is to lose another 8-10 pounds then start gymming for a v-taper broader shoulders.
>>77256603
>>77256631I didn't have a big/enough glassware to cook it in, so I opted to use the foil instead.
>>77256657At least here the pros use regular GN steel dishes, and ask the customers to bring their own containers for the leftovers. Also it's customary to let the staff eat before it's packed away.
>>77256660>once that paper towel effect came into playWhassat?Also>looked like the ugliest nigga known to mankind>5'8, asian,U got so fat u turned gangsta?
Fatty Contest Fatwicker218.1 lbs My weekly 5-7 day stall-rapid loss pattern is holding. Words do not describe how happy I am to see the number on the scale being so low, I haven't been in this good of shape ever I think.
>>77256673I grew up in the hood on the east coast, always been one gang>whassatthe quick and dirty of it is "the closer you are to a healthy weight, the more obvious each few pounds of weight loss become to the outsider"ex: starting weight 300 and you lose 50, minor differences in appearance outside of the belly fat and maybe arms, not too noticeable except to close friends. face is still fat as fuck. 160 to 150 (assuming 5'8+), your body lacks the readily available fat at the easy locations (belly, arms, legs) to take from and is forced to take it away from your face/chin/neck.
Down 15 total but this week was the first one I just stayed the same atWell not really worried but just kinda oddI meal plan breakfast and lunch so 60% of what I eat is predetermined
>>77256680Aah, yeah. I remember seeing the tp roll picture. Now I got it. First I thought it had to do with folding like paper towels, then those stuffed paper towel dispensers in diners... Why do I feel like I'm high?
>>77256678when I first hit below my high school weight where I was at my skinniest past 18, I legit shed a few tears, good job brother>>77256683if you hit the weight machines, it's probably water filling the empty cells, happens all the time and delightful when you go 2 under in one dayif you're truly CICO'ing there's nothing to worry about, you got this champ
>>77256684no clue famalam, better to be high than to be obsessing over food though
>>77256660congratulations anon, wish u luck
>>77256685Thanks anon. I was a fat kid my whole life, I dont think I was ever really in shape. I was like 260 lbs in my sophomore year. I have no idea when the last time I weighed 218 lbs was. I probably havent been close to 200 since middle school when I was 6 inches shorter. Not being fat as hell is a new experience for me.
>>77256703oh fuck nigga, you're actually seeing how you *really* look under all that fat! it's like a Christmas gift every week where the end result is how you look as an adult at a healthy weight!excited for your progress, keep it up!>>77256695thank you king
>>77256710handsome and cute is this a genshin guy? alitham or smthand ofc
>>77256720phainon from hsr, same company as genshin, okay time to drop, goodnight champs!
>>77256722oh nice, tyrest well!
just take ozempic fatty
>>77256729I know this is a shit post but I'll respond to it genuinely: ozempic is great, though some people financially cannot afford it. For those of you wondering what it is like to be on it, imagine you're on a 1300 cal diet, by 9pm you're just craving for something to shove into your body because you're so hungry. With ozempic, you don't have that food noise at all the moment you eat lunch. It's a great tool to touch base with your relationship with food if you have the money for it.
>>77256200Sorry to say no amount of weight loss will get your a gf bud. To make 5'10" work you've got to rich, absolutely shredded, with a perfect face, great hair, and a infectious personality. You'd have a shot if you were 6'0" or higher.
>>77256733did you take it?
>>77256735Yeah and I got off it too. I've lost weight through CICO prior to all this ozempic glp1 craze, 30 pounds in 10 weeks through raw force of will, chicken thighs and broccoli everyday with 40 minutes of incline threadmill a day. One of the hardest journeys of my life. Tried ozempic, shit was fucking easy to lose the same amount.
>>77256734weak bait
>>77256738>>77256735Extra note: with ozempic, you can grab a subway sandwich footlong that is approximately 1200 calories, eat half for lunch, eat half for dinner. What ozempic is really good at is making you feel like shit (nauseous) for several hours if you eat too much at once. It changes your average day from "yo bro fuuuuuck I want to eat so bad" which is a 8 hour back and forth if you're a obese guy to "I need to eat 300 more calories to hit my 1500 goal, I'll drink two protein shakes or something..."It's a PAY TO WIN method that is heavily gated by bmi requirements and the whims of the health insurance to offer it for free or heavy discount, assuming you're in the USA. If you go down the telehealth route (which I did) it's somewhat cheaper at aprx 200/month.I have to stress it again, it's PAY TO WIN. If you don't fix your relationship with food during the process, you will gain the weight back. Ozempic gives you the opportunity to fix it, but if you don't take it, then you gain it back.Everything you do on a regular CICO is the same thing you'd do on ozempic, there's no difference. You'd still do strength training and you'll still count your calories and protein, but pay more attention to fiber because ozempic slows digestion which easily leads to constipation.
>>77256742Minimum requirements for a gf in 2026:height: >183cmbody fat: <15%OHP: >1pl8 for repsbench: >2pl8 for repssquat: >3pl8 for repsdeads: >4pl8 for repsincome: >$150k annualhair: <Norwood 2dick: >20cm length, >15cm girthface: >7/10car: >$100k starting pricehouse: >2500sq ft, or >2000sq ft with poolleader in his group of male friends: yes
>>77256776yea maybe ifyou want a 10/10 woman but if your standards are normal, you too will find a normal woman
>>77256744you didn't win if you used drugs to trick your mind into not being a ham planet
Any advice for reversing non-alcoholic fatty liver disease other than just losing weight (which I am doing)?
>>77256984Probably discuss that with your doctor and not random anons.
>>77256985Doc said lose weight, cut down on carbs, Mediterranean diet.
>>77256776You forgot age>no older than 25
>>77257029So you're saying the only guys who can get a gf nowadays are 25yo hedge fund managers who moonlight as pro-athletes? Damn, the inflation hitting the pussy game is getting ridiculous.
>>77256984Keto
Fatty ContestTwinkEnjoyer 61.8kg
>>77256989Sounds like your standard /fat/ diet consisting entirely of lean protein, fibrous veg, and like a tbsp of olive oil.
>Doc said cut down on carbsThere you guys have it
>google “foods that cause fatty liver”>reduce those foods
>>77257041that's impossiblewe all know that every doctor is funded and bankrolled by big carb
>>77257041Yeah, but no sticks of butter either. They explicitly say limit saturated fats like butter and ground beef. Anything on this chart with high red fat composition is a no-go.
>>77257041>Jewish doctorlmao no thanks
Fatty ContestRozmarino101.4kg185cm
>>77257050
What do you normally replace carbs with when eating? my carbs for the day are usually things like rice/potato, some of the veggies I have have a little bit of carbs in sweetcorn and peas, then also greek yogurt and protein powder has some carbs.
I finally stopped being a pussy and did it anons, I signed up for a gym membership and have booked my 60min induction for wednesday, where a trainer will show me a workout schedule and how to do each workout. Got 20kg to lose, hoping I can get there in about 8-9 months.
I vomit everything I drink that isn't water. Everything from alcohol to cola zero. I have to run to the bathroom after one sip. Sometimes I can drink but after some liquid I vomit and continue to the rest of the day. Is it my Mounjaro (ozempic)? My dose is 30 in one shot. I can eat but not drink.
>>77257115>Is it my Mounjaro (ozempic)? My dose is 30 in one shot.
>>77257115>30 in one shotWhat did you mean by this?
>>77257116What do you mean idiot?
>>77257034NTA, just wait for the wave to pass. There are normal women in the world, and soon the wave function will normalize like a rubber band.Currently women are peak drama entitled nutcases. And yes highly inflated.
>smoke weed for the first time in years>forgot how bad the munchies got>spend the next week eating too much>spend another week quitting before I hit a downspiral, but still eating too much>but finally back to losing weight>work up the courage to weigh myself>2lbs loss since this whole charadeNothing makes sense.
>>77257117
>mfw when /fraud/ers
>>77257115>Mounjaro (ozempic)?
>>7725712230 what?
>>77257121kys
>>77257126love yourself
>>77257121Weed increases metabolism -> BMR increase means more calories spent. But it's not viable for consistent fat loss. It can work like senzu beans during high activity, but will sabotage you if used for pure recreational pleasure.
>>77257125WHYDOIVOMIT?!
>>77257134You're a bitch injecting liquid jewThis is you.
>>7725713430 WHAT? What dose size you stupid nigger.
>>77257137I dunno 30?!
>>77257139Yeah, you deserve to die.
I always have a good chuckle when I see some retard taking the jew drug to lose weight. It's natural selection at this point.
7.5 mg is that why I vomit? Fucking niggers in here hating ozempic. Nigger thread. Fat fucking niggers
>>77257147bro, I can see your epidermis...
>>77257149Same. The retard doesn't know what he's injecting or even how much. Kek.>>77257150Lmao. This is a fat loss thread, /fraud/ is around the corner. Go there little retarded brown jewboy.
>>77257152You see what you want to see faggot
>>772571537.5 you self hating blackie
>Dr golddiamonstein you really think I should buy this drug to inject myself to lose weight?>Wow look how good celebs look after they take it! ok Ill do it!Just ack yourself.
>>77257160I didn't get it from a doctor. I got it from a friend that stopped using it
>Trolling outside of /b/No one is THIS retarded. Stop trolling.
>>77257161Ah, and you're a bolshevik too
No one can answer my question. Every ham planet here is just hating on a good drug. U jelly?
>>77257165No 100% national socialist
>>77257170Then go share a fentanyl needle with your gay jew friend. Aids will thin mint you in no time
>>77257172No joke he is a gay man with HIV but I have changed needle.
>>77257173Change it back. It's free fat loss.
>>77257182Yes but that is GAAAAY
>>77256588How to do low carb without losing mental focus? I work in a white collar construction job and I can't afford to have brain fog or low energy>inb4 MCT oil or bronkaidI refuse to take anything made by members of the long nose tribe
>>77257188Well you oughta know, sweetie.
>>77257209You dont. humans need carbs to function idiot. stop buying into meme diets, eat a balanced diet of whole foods and good unprocessed carbs, be in a deficit, walk enough, do weight training.>b-but its easier to be a meme and not eat one of the basic fuel sources for my body retard.
>>77256744you've won. don't listen to the anti GLPshit retard
>>77257055>They explicitly say limit saturated fats like butter and ground beef.old news
Is there any point to fasting over the 72 hour mark?
>>77257213>vegetables and fruitsI can't believe that RFK is WOKE.
>>77257160>it's realwhy did she jump on the drug? she was already pretty thin.should've jumped on Anavar.
Water weight swings are insaneI am +8lbs vs 3 days ago
>>77257209different diets work for different people. you'll need to experiment and see what works for you.imo, you're either missing electrolytes and need an electrolytes drink/snake juice, you're eating too much carbs for your body to fully switch to ketones or you haven't switched yet and are in the transitionary phase.
>>77257215of course. but can you handle it?
>>77257224It's not water weight. The CIA have vans parked outside your residence and are beaming lasers into you to inject calories into your cells. But a few days later they reverse the polarity on the laser to mess with your head.
>>77257244My gangstalkers became lardstalkers? I knew it
>>77257211what are the standards of balanced or how is it determined?
>>77257262do you have autism?
pretty privilege is real, let this be motivation to lose weightgirls treat me exponentially nicer
>>77257291I don't like positive attention. Peple llook and smile and talk to me more now and it sucks. I should get even fatter
Fatty ContestBetterNateThanLever191.6 lbsBad: I'm still slipping off the wagon to an astounding degreeGood: I'm getting a gym membership today so I can convert my mistakes into fuel
Fatty ContestBagOMilk184.4lbs
>>77257107Good shit nigga
>>77257262what they mean is the diet should be balanced around carbohydrates, i.e. "eat more carbs">>77257211nah it's the only macro nutrient you don't need at all
ketoschizo is back, abandon thread.
>>77257399I'm not keto schizosomeone asked a reasonable question and you respond with "do you have autism" ahaha fuck you
>>77257211>humans need carbs to functionFunction in what way?
>>77257209>How to do low carb without losing mental focus?In short, you don't.
>>77257424>Function in what way?To grow muscle, have good regeneration, have a strong immunity system, not lose neural tissue over time...
>>77257442Muscle is made from protein. Carbs cause alzheimers.
>>77256592Congrats anon. Happy for you
>>77257446Repeating lies will not make them true, no matter how many times you repeat it, ketoschizo.Why do you lie so much?
Remember to never fall for carb shills, anons.
>>77257050Buy and take this. Its not a meme. It works.
>>77257473Remember your post your body with a timestamp and not the endlessly spammed dyel image you usually do keto spammer
>>77257478You can't expect someone whose brain has been damaged by a long ketogenic diet to be able to think outside the script.
Carb shills always lie and never post body.
How many people here take a multivitaminFeel like I should be taking one and feel kinda regretful not taking them as a child
>>77257473Post the number of calories the keto guy is eating.Protip, you won't.
>>772574913lbs of 80/20 ground beef a day plus cheese.
>>77257473Well fuuuuuuuck if this random cherry picked image is true then everything we know is wrong wtffff carbchads are we the losers
>>77257494Hmmm sounds kinda gay and boring
>>77257490I take one because I have a restrictive diet due to a chronic bowel condition. I would recommend it to anyone just to cover your bases
>>77257496It's not random or cherry picked. Post your body and you can be included in a physique comparison, too.
>>77257489>no uThis monkey-like copying is the peak a brain damaged by long term keto can archive, amazing.>>77257491Doesn't he post a 300 kcal beef and claim it "actually has 4000 kcal" or something?
>>77257502Don't calorietards know how to read nutrition labels?
>>77257501>It's not random or cherry picked.It's indeed not random, but it is cherry picked, it's dishonest as you post "before" images of people who already lost weight, and it's spam.
>>77257506Imagine getting angry for making low quality lies and people figuring it outWhat's next, try LARP as "I'm not keto schizo, haha" again?
>>77257507These are all after CICO, not before.
>>77257502>Doesn't he post a 300 kcal beef and claim it "actually has 4000 kcal" or something?Yes, he sometimes he also pretend to be someone else who sucks and call himself the "ketochad". It's digusting.
>>77257511Imagine being fat. You don't have to imagine though because you're a permanently fat flat calorie theorist who won't post body.
>>77257514>These are all after CICO, not before.You already has got a massive reputation for lying and being dishonest, simply claiming "actually I'm not lying" will not work for you.
>>77257518You're inverting reality. You're a shameless liar.
>>77257517>Reeeeeeee, how dare you not agree with my lies, you are fat, reeeeeeeeSuch is the damaged brain of the ketoschizo, you lie too much.
>>77257519>no uThis and calling people fat is all you can do when your shilling goes out of the rails, isn't it?Sorry ketoschizo, but despite how you want things to be, people can remember the stuff you said and that has given you the deserved reputation as a compulsive liar and spamming shill.
>>77257520Post body carb eater.
>>77257524Dude, you're lame. You should stick to spamming the same pre-made lies, instead of trying to attack people.
>>77257523Show screenshots and proof of lies.
Remember that time that a video was posted because lying carb shills were crying "photoshop"? I remember.
Fatty Contesthitodenashi149.6lbs
>>77257523kinda reminds me of when ketoshizo kept telling a diabetic anon to not go see a doctor and instead follow his diet, promising he'd be cured in a month or so.
>>77257529Ketoshizo, you posted this video many years ago, and has been spamming it in every single thread since them, no matter how many times people from that time claim it's from a guy from Fiverr.
>Filter "CICO">Filter "Keto">90% of /fit/'s schizomeltdowns autofilteredMany such boards
>>77257519>>77257526See >>77257410
>>77257525>won't post bodykek
>>77257538That's someone else. You suffer from extreme delusions and call everyone "ketoschizo".
>>77257539An obese compulsive liar gets sad that people say he's obese and a compulsive liar, instead of trying to fix this, he chooses to project.
>>77257543I've been lean 10+ years.See: >>77257473
>>77257546>SeeWhy I'd want to see ketoschizo posting a before picture of someone who lost weight to mock him? It's disgusting to see someone this dishonest.
>>77257501>it’s not random or cherry picked>post your body, random personKeto brain lol
>>77257549Do you mean in the philosophical sense that all CICO pics are before pics because CICO doesn't work?
>>77257554You really are mentally ill, aren't you? No I mean in the sense you're a dishonest liar and pick the "before" picture of people posting before-after comparisons to mock them.Why do you have such an obsession with putting anyone trying to lose weight down? Is it some sort of fetish for fat dudes?
Anyway guys remember to count your calories and log off or else you’ll end up like these two lovers
All CICO deniers are fatties. No exceptions.
Gained back all the weight I lost... again. There is no escape from this cycle.
>>77257575Kinda, there are unhealthy ways to lose weight without CICO that will hurt you in the long term.>>77257576A diet is something you must keep.
Fatty ContestBulkUntilFailure340lbsGood: This time last year I was close to 400 lbsBad: I am severely depressed and I find no joy in my life, but at least the number is getting smaller
>>77257272I have your mother sucking my cock regularly but that's about it
I LOVE THE DUCKS
>>77257559>You really are mentally ill, aren't you? >No I mean in the sense you're a dishonest liar and pick the "before" picture of people posting before-after comparisons to mock them.i'm not even him and i criticize him for bullying anons but that's not a before picture.https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/77222988/#q77226644>Here's one from last Nov. 236lb. https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/77222988/#77226650>I just find it funny we both have a right sleeve tat and all!>I'm around 230lb now, going down to 220 while recomping. I think we talked here earlier this week.
>>77257529Remember the time you were asked for a current timestamp and you never did it? I remember.
PSA:do NOT engage the keto schizo he's not here to help anyonehe IS a liar and IS dishonest. do NOT engage him in discussion
you really shouldn't make body comparison photos, ketoanon.>>77257501this one seems to be a long fight in the thread with no proper quoting but this seems to be a body post after 15kg (~35lbs) weight loss so it feels dishonest to include pics of people on their weight loss journey. >how did i just lose 15kg doing CICO then>lardbrain ketoschizohttps://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/70871513/#70873777>>>70873777>Thank you for becoming another cautionary tale.>Remember anons: NEVER do cico. Just quit carbs. >>77257514>>77257518>>77257507this one might be sort of dishonest because he lost 100lbs doing CICO but it is the after pic. haven't read the thread yet.https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/69468620/#69469662>happy new year, /fat/. heres to another 100 pounds lost in this coming year. 150 down already, but still so much to go.
>>77257536but you'll miss some genuine advice
>>77257576how much did you gain back, how much time did it take to gain them back and what do you think the reason was?and the most important question is:which diet did you follow?
Carbs are so good for youThey’re your bodies primary fuel source
>>77257655never post body too because not only faggots will use the pics to jerk off, but you'll be bullied years down the line too.
>>77257576That's the predictable results of CICO.There is an escape. Quit eating carbs.
>>77257676What does an article headline prove
>tfw
>>77257676Dude, you need to stop lying, look at >>77257660 >>77257638 showing how much of a dishonest bastard you are.
>>77257680It's a success story.>Jan had been trying to lose weight many times by counting calories, but every time the weight came back.He succeeded eventually by quitting carbs. Many people have the same experience. If you prefer a scientific paper check out the study in pic related. It shows why everyone who tries CICO regains weight: metabolism slowdown. Keto boosts metabolism.
>>77257398>nah it's the only macro nutrient you don't need at allNah, alcohol is the only macro you don't need.
>>77257676>>77257688Another "article" by Eenfeldt, a professional keto-diet shill. Isn't it amazing how stories and studies done by regular people and those done by professional keto-shills tell entire different stories?
>>77257688>People gained fat back after stopping to eat wellOMG!1!! I'm a ketofag now.
>>77257638>i'm not even him and i criticize him for bullying anons but that's not a before picture.Yes it is. That's a picture of me 1 month into gym.
>>77257697CICO doesn't require eating well.
>>77257714Do you really need to be this dishonest and pretend that anything other than your damaging diet is literally eating sugar? Kek.>>77257638See >>77257708
>>77257714Neither does keto
>>77257727CICO is "a new concept in weight control" advertised by Sugar Information Inc. The only reason anyone has ever heard of it is because of the sugar industry.>>77257734Correct. Keto cures obesity just by eliminating carbs. You can still have vegetable oil and other unhealthy things.
>>77257708Post body now. Let's see what progress you made over the past 6 months using cico.
>>77257735>CICO is "a new concept in weight control" advertised by Sugar Information Inc.No, if we are not lying on purpose like you are, then pretending CICO was created by a shady conspiracy of sugar producers "proven" by one image spammed by a mentally ill individual stops being an option.CICO is what empirical evidence and research in the past 100 years has shown to be true.
>>77257748CICO caused the obesity epidemic.Before anyone heard of a calorie they had no trouble staying lean.Traditional belief was that sugar, starch, and snacking were fattening. All consistent with the hormonal theory of obesity.
>>77257754>CICO caused the obesity epidemic.Maybe keeping your brain malnourished for years has made you retarded.
>1,500 calories>hungryit's over
>>77257785Bro didn’t eat enough protein and fiber nor drink enough diet soda
>>77257785Your body takes time to adopt to a newer calorie intake, how much time it has been since you started eating 1500 kcal a day?
>>77257805correct>>772578071,500 is new. i'm used to 1,600-1,800i drank coffee and did a set of OHP and i'm not hungry anymore.i guess i'll do a set of something whenever i get hungry.
>lose weight>buy new pants>they all look slim fit on the legs because of massive calves that had to carry my fat meanother problem has arrived
>>77257824my calves arent even that bigi truly was a failure even at being fat
>>77257824>massive calvesmirin'
I'm not even fat, just cutting for summer and chill walks are great to boost your TDEE, clear your head, decompress and spend some time on your legs which is quite important for WFH desk jockeys. Granted it might not be as time effective as regular cardio but it's actually enjoyable and won't spike your cortisol.
>>77257850It's a great thing, the gains from going to sedentary to chill walks is greater than the leap from chill walks to cardio.
>>77257147why do so many guys accidentally post their weeniers hereit's such a common occurance
>>77257313wear sunglasses/cap and a mask, no one will talk to you
>>77257855Yeah, it's like a combined fireworks & fire factory. Curious.
>>77256733I'm not ketoschizo but I have the same experience (on most days) without ozempic when I eat a stable diet of high protein, medium fats, low carb, 1400 cals btw, I can get a bit hungry before the first meal at 12 and maybe a bit hungry before the second meal at ~6 but after that I'm usually satiated enough. The cravings are mostly mental and usually absent if you're not exposed to the things you shouldn't eat.
>Entered every single thing I ate into a food diary>Get smart watch that tracks calories burned>Make spreadsheet of cals in vs cals out per the day>-3711 calorie defecit for the week>Down 1lb on the weekNot bad I guess, kinda fun desu
>>77257875right? it's fun to log it all, and see the outcomenumbers autism but it helps you get healthier :)
>Weigh 300 in august>Take reta>Hit 220>It won't go down>Fasted for 2 days>It literally stayed the sameAny suggestions?
>>77257895Follow what is on the OP.
>>77257895Literally stop being a spaz and just wait a few more days till the stall passes
>>77257895just keep at it anoni had a stall of almost 3 weeks once and it passedstay strong and do other stuff, check once a week but stay the course, it will start dropping again if u stick to your regimen
I feel i know what i need to know to lose weight, now I just need to start
Gotten so fat that its starting to get uncomftable to sit. Feels like my stomach is pushing up into my chest.
>realised i probably didn't calculate my TDEE/deficit correctly>go and rework it>the intake target is much lower than what i got previously>check my app>i've been hitting under the correct intake number anywaysphew... nice.>>77257927you can do it anon, start todayno time like the present! you won't regret starting now.>>77257934oofdo something about it anon, i believe in you.
>>77257855I do it on purpose for my weigh ins because it is funny
>>77257754The obesity epidemic is caused by 2 things1. People being fat more sedentary than they were in the past. People used to walk places, play sports, and engage in physical activity in general far more often 2. Processed food is literally designed to make you hungry, eat more, and buy more. That's why junk food companies are freaking out about GLP drugs and trying to create new foods that make GLP takers hungry.Not to mention there used to be far less "ready made" food. Food is too easily accessed now.
>shrink from wearing 3XL shirts to being somewhere between 1 and 2XL>currently unemployed so I can't go out and buy new clothes>look like a deranged man wearing clothing too big for himOn the plus side, it feels great having strong erections again. Soft erections caused me so much anxiety.
fatty contestfatretard181.1
>>77257895start lifting and/or walking
>>77257960I went from 2xl to medium.I might be able to fit loose fitting emails soon, but my frame is probably too big for athletic smalls.It is surreal.
I hate the new myfitnesspal app design. Anyone using macrosfirst to track food?
>>77257875It is fun. Seeing and tracking the numbers is what finally made things click for me. Good work anon
>>77257956>1. People being fat more sedentary than they were in the past. People used to walk places, play sports, and engage in physical activity in general far more oftenOr at least do physical labor, even stuff like working in a store used to mean you'd be unloading boxes.
>>77257960A lean guy with muscle will look better in rags than a fatso in the best costume.
>>77257956The obesity epidemic was caused by carbs. The reason people ate more carbs is because they were (mis)taught CICO.
>>77257874Your observation is true, but the cravings are hormonal.
>>77257850>going outsideeww
>>77257989Yes, there used to be convenient tools and vehicles as well. Life used to require you to physically exert yourself far more.>>77257999Humans were chugging bear and scarfing down bread and rice in the past without being fat.People used to move around so much that eating enough to get fat was hard, especially considering none of their food was literally designed to be addictive in a lab.
>>77257999Dude, you lie too much, the baseline human diet was virtually all carb since farming.
I'm alkost not overweight. I do a lot of walking.I can maintain a 2000 calorie deficit, how bad would that be for 2 weeks?
>>77258027>I can maintain a 2000 calorie deficit, how bad would that be for 2 weeks?Barely overweight with a 2000 calorie deficit and not intense physical activity is pretty much starving for two weeks, it'll cause some harm.
>>77258027i doubt you'll actually be able to do it for the whole 2 weeks but if you manage not to rebound eat, it'll be a fine.
>>77258032I get my tdee to 3000 and will eat 1000.>>77258035I am taken advantage of a depressive episode. I literally have no appetite
>>77258039Taking* I am retarded, I am doing cardio while posting.
>>77258015>>77258020Humans knew that starch was fattening until CICO claimed otherwise.See: >>77257754The sugar industry monitored their progress at eliminating traditional wisdom. Also pic related.
Waiting to shit
>>77258050i started making oilve oil, yogurt, and some honey and cinnamon sloppa to help me shit.600kcals but damn does it feel good to not suffer while shitting.
luckily I've never had any problems shitting
>>77258097a fat fuck grem in /fat/, what a shock
Been going strong at 1400calories, exercising plenty each week and just blew it all today on my rest day eating 3000calories because I was upset my scale showed me up 0.4kg, what a fucking stupid waste, still feel hungry as well.
>>77258100soon...
>>77258129eat a bunch of lean protein whenever you're hungry
>>77258129Try to start with protein and fats first, then carbs, when eating.
>>77257967>my frame is probably too big for athletic smallsI feel that as a fellow big guy (4 u). At my fittest, I hovered between large and XL depending on the brand.>>77257991Appreciate that. It's mostly a self conscious thing. Mostly get around it by tucking in my shirts now.
>Don't poop for a few days>Poop 5 times in one day>Scale has moved the next morningIs the weight stored in the poop?
>>77258235sometimes yes
>>77258240In a non-retarded way of asking, is that genuinely what's happening when you've been in a deficit long enough that you should have lost a pound or two, but the scale says you didn't, then after using the bathroom multiple times, the next day your weight is where you expected?
>>77256984it is caused by fructose, so stop eating sugar. carbs are okay if they don't have fructose. sucrose has fructose
>>77258248Fat doesn't turn into poo. It turns into pee#1, pee#2 and carbon dioxide.
>>77258248i just relate to the experience of an apparent "stall" just being because of being constipated kek
>>77256984Ignore the shill talking about keto, basically only fructose and sugars that contain are relevant for this.
>>77258254There's two different kinds of pee?
>>77258262yes, which is why it is called peepee
>>77256588I ate candy, Swedish Marshmellos yesterday.
>>77258264Damn it you got me
i think these threads became soulless after everyone started taking ozempic and things like that
>>77258276i don't take it
>>77258276I thought this thread was for people who wanted to suffer through things the old fashioned way.
>>77258262Mainly the fat turns into pee when it breaks down into atp, then the atp turns to recycleable adp and pee. It's pure Piss Master.
>>77258287Are you telling me that the human body is an internal combustion engine?
Interesting how the thought of eating takeout sounds like dogshit now. So much grease and salt. Funny how that changes when you actually start eating healthy and cooking.
>>77258291i am a well-oiled machine
>>77258286Suffering for your progress builds character and makes long term adherence more likely.
>>77258291
>>77258276it's like programming threads on /g/ after claude code
>>77258308Kinda explains why ketofags are such weaklings.
Fatty ContestBigJ266.66'4"finally ready to do this shit, lets gooooo
I'm 6'1 and was 320 pounds 8 months ago. Today I weighed in at 265 pounds. I've been taking Tirz and I'm up to the max dose of 15mg. I want to switch to Reta but I'm too scared of the negative side effects.
>>77258474>eat less>move more>stay consistentNo need to take anything
got my new under desk tredmill, walked for 80 minutes today while gamingstill waiting on my new standing desk, ive been using a makeshift one in the meantime
>>77258484Nizze! Remember those don't expend nearly as much calories as regular walking. But everything's a bonus
>>77258499well when you're fat it still burns tons of calories, makes me feel less bad about spending all day at my computer.
>>77258484Standing or walking is just better than sitting.
>>77258505>Standing or walking is just better than sitting.exactly, its how i got thin last time>then i stopped standing all day>and then stopped watching what i ate>and started drinking beer all the timeso i gained all the weight back over 3 years.i used to stand 11 hours a day, today i stood for like 2 and walked for 80 mins.just stand bros.
>>77258513If your job allows you to stand, it's quite a good idea.
60 hours deep in my water fast and I noticed today I'm dumping fluids like crazy. Was pissing straight clear every 45-60 minutes. Anyone ever experience that?
>>77258522im self employed thankfully, so i can just stand until my feet get tired, its harder to stand for long now which sucks.
>>77258524its normal, you're just dropping alot of water weight the body was storing.
>>77258308Unironically yes. Though even long term adherence can be threatened by a ton of influences and other factors. I've been journaling during my journey to cease being a fat fuck and reading entries from when I was 100 lbs heavier helps me stay focused.
>>77258524Your body is losing a lot of water because you are lacking salts. If you feel alright, keep doing it, if you start to feel ill, drink some water with lemon juice and a bit of salt.
Any experiencies with Fitia as an calorie counting app?
>>77258574Found it easier to follow a diet and grow my willpower while doing things by hand, the process of planning and measuring on paper was very helpful to me.
>>77258375kek, i noticed a lot more "personal projects" being posted now on there. then you read the code and get disappointed
>>77256501My heart rate monitor thinks I'm overreaching.
>>77258630that's fine. i reach 180 sometimes
Just broke my 11 days with 110g of protein. Will I be shitting a literal brick?
>>7725865611 days what?
>>77258656I find my high protein shits tend to be on the mucky side.>>77258658I'm assuming a fast.
>>77258659breaking a 11 day fast with that much food is a good way to die from refeeding syndrome
>>77258672Yeah I personally never took a fast longer than 5 days. 11 days is extreme.
>>77258276nah ozempic is expensive, also it seems like ozempic makes you look like a shriveld potato, biggest gains i got while trying to lose weight is actually money, pretty insane how much i spend because I was lazy and ordering food
>>77258040>>77258039To avoid adaptive thermogenesis and a general ramping down of your metabolism, you could probably do it for two weeks with no problem as long as afterwards you ate at maintenance for a week or two just to get back to baseline. Otherwise, after that, you'll be spinning your wheels and endlessly have to decrease your calories more and more of every rapidly to maintain weight loss.
>>77258672>that much food110 grams of protein isn't even 450 calories.
>>77258676>go to the fasting subreddit>people are talking about fasts that go on for weeks and weeksDoesn't autophagy cap out before the first week?
>>77258795it doesn't just stop. it takes that much time to ramp up, but then it stays continuous for the rest of the fast
>>77258795People who don't have jobs or personality attach themselves to niche interests as a way of self-definition.
>>77258795>autophagyIs mostly a meme anyway. 72h fasts is all you need to maximize it but even then it effects are minimal.
>>77258254oh so thats why i have some piss days where i lose like 1-2kg
idk bros, being fat might not be as bad as going to bed hungry every night
Everyone dies.
fatty contestMT_FATSO176cm102.9kg
What makes these a good option for a snack? Or should these be my actual lunch
>>77258885pickle them, that way they lose their nasty sulfuric aftertaste, and they taste better depending on which spices you put in the brine
>>77258901>eastereggs
I have started eating much healthier for the past three weeks, and exercising (fairly intensive rowing).I'm not on any specific diet, but just eating moderate amounts of fruits, vegetables, checking, fish, etc.I now constantly smell very strong of vinegar, and apparently that's because of ketosis, so my body is burning fat.I suppose it's going to last until I've lost all the fat I need to burn?
>>77258844You might want to increase slightly your calorie intake if you're hungry and thinking this.I eat 1500 calories a day and almost never feel hunger discomfort.
>>77258965It's propably not ketosis, just the release of ketones. It'll balance out in time when your bodyfat% drops to a certain amount. Once you get settled into high proton diet you'll smell of ammonia.
I really feel the only reason the fat loss meds work is because it fundamentally changes the way you think of food in a way that you can't just force through sheer willpower alone. Think about a heroin addict how once they tried it, that's it the bug is in their brain and they'll never forget, the temptation is always there. Imagine if you could give them a medicine that biologically makes them forget. Instant cure, so long as they're on that medicine. That's what GLP-1s etc do for someone addicted to food. I've experienced it with tirzepatide myself and the difference is profound. It's like suddenly you stop thinking about eating 24/7 and things become so clear. Then you realize, this is exactly how normal skinny people feel naturally and you stop caring about the negativity surrounding taking those medicines and just do what's best for you. I wish I was still taking it but my insurance dropped it from their formulary because of some deal with the makers of Ozempic/Wegovy which I know is objectively worse than tirzepatide, AND they make you jump through hoops to get prior authorization for this worse shit to boot. Fucking horse shit.
>>77258553That's a good idea, i wish I had done the same. Im taking the goal setting approach, first half marathon next week then training for a full marathon, keeps me focused especially where I'm at the point that I'm trying to build muscle and recomp as opposed to just losing fat.
>wake up >step on scale >fuck.mp3 >more than yesterday>do 4 gigantic shits >decide to step on scale again>success.wav >less than yesterdaythank you for your attention to this matter
Thoughts?
>>77259080The state of American cuisine lmfao
I'm always scared to bulk but I have to put on muscle. What should I avoid eating? Don't tell me to keep cutting until lower body fat, I'm as small as I ever want to be
>>77258980>Once you get settled into high proton diet you'll smell of ammonia.It's a good thing I live alone.
>>77259081I'm Greek though
>>77259060I find my weight loss usually comes from pissing. Like even my biggest shits are only like 1~2lb but ive taken 3~4lb pisses.
>tried to go for pull up negatives>my arms are so exhausted now that i cant do my normal exercisesoh shit i just fucked like an entire day of workout
>>77259130You worked them, why worry? You dont actually have to do everything every day, give yourself a few hours and they should be mostly recovered anyway.
>>77259085eat good clean food, just more of it
>>77259133Because it feels like I am not doing my usual shit so I am not sure if today was effective or notI guess it will be helpful for pull ups which I want to do but its odd that I cant do anything else today...
Guys, when you've become so used to the taste of good food and stuffing yourself, how do you go back to normal portions? I tried to eat normal food and it felt bland. When I try eating smaller portions, I feel like I'm still hungry.Another problem is, when I'm dieting, my mood becomes much more worse and I become more irritable.
>overeat yesterday>made sure to push PBs and do extra sets in my exercise todayMight as well make use of the overeating even if it was junk food.
>>77259173tl;dr: it takes time. Eat the bland food, your palate will adjust over time."good food" can mean anything. Personally you can make really healthy and fairly low calorie meals pretty easily; for example, I make a turkey chili that is ~500-600 calories for a MASSIVE bowl that I can barely finish, and has really good macros. Compare that to a 2000 calorie sub from subway/jersey mikes I can finish in one meal easily with shitty macros. So for "good food", I'd say focus on recipes that have high volume/low calories. There are 1001 salad variations that all taste different from each other. Mediterranean recipes are fairly plant-based with great macros. If you stop eating super-palatable food, your taste buds will adjust. I used to drink a ton of mountain dew; I stopped for years, and when I drank one again, I could barely drink it because it tasted so sugary. Same with fast food; they all taste super salty/greasy now, it's hard to down that type of food like I used to. As far as portion size, I found that intermittent fasting/OMAD completely erased my ability to eat a ton at once. It'll take some time and won't happen overnight, but it will work.
>>77259234I guess I meant more taste-intensive food, junk food instead of good food. And its not that my healthy food is bland. But, I get sick and tired of having the same thing everyday, when instead I could have binged on some junk food.
>>77259080i'm not sure what i'm looking at. they're making GLP-1 tablets now?
>>77259085avoid starchy carbs. maximize protein.you can go for recomp by eating at maintenance instead of bulking. imo, bulking is a meme.
>>77259277>avoid starchy carbsNo
>>77259293>just avoid meat, broanon wants to build muscles
>>77259277>avoid starchy carbsGreen banan is a starchy carb. Should I avoid banan?
>weight stall Low carb day is back in the menu
>>77259330>Green banan is a starchy carbi count it as fruit>Should I avoid banan?no. by avoid i didn't mean to delete them entirely. i fucked up my word choice.
>>77259350>>77259350>>77259350>>77259350
>>77259330You should be careful to not eat too much of it.
>>77259275Chinese retatrutide
>>77259437i can't imagine how small those bottles are.their width is 2 pens and height 1/4 of a pen?
>>77259324>putting words in my mouth I never said
>>77259559that is one of the core ideas in the book you posted. you don't know the author?>John A. McDougall (May 17, 1947 – June 22, 2024) was an American physician and author. He wrote a number of diet books advocating the consumption of a low-fat vegan diet based on starchy foods and vegetables.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._McDougall
>>77259513That's a vial on top of an earbuds caseThe vials hold up to 3ml so yes they're small, much smaller than what I was expecting actually
>>77259613they're so tiny and cute!
>>77259586he was a vegan (dead now)I take bits and pieces from various authors. This one just like the blue zone studies being that a diet high in carbs is good for you. This isn't to say that eating high carbs is ideal for someone who's trying to add muscle mass like the guy we were trying to help. It's merely a response to you saying to avoid starches. Don't, just eat more protein - that should be his focus.
>>77259060The amount of this kind of post has been increasing drastically in the past couple days. It's really weird.
>>77259242Nothing is stopping you from experimenting with spices, marinades, and seasonings.
>>77259685that anon was scared to bulk (rightfully so imo). he needs to minimize starchy carbs. this is the standard recommendation for recomp and lean bulk.i don't believe in a one size fits all diet. different things work for different people.i have not read his book nor am i about to listen to an upjumped vegan zealot's tedious ramblings but the interwebs say he says >muh Asians thrived - while conveniently forgetting about the mongols shitting on them>muh calorie density you can eat a lot and feel full - while forgetting some people LOVE rice and never get full>muh environment - eat ze bugspotatoes are S tier though so they get a pass.
Almost 5 pounds down!https://youtu.be/P0p8w7pOl7Q
>>77260550nice
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