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Have you ever considered the possibility that some day normal consumer won't be able to afford a computer anymore?
With GPU and RAM price increases, this nightmare scenario seems likely.

Wireless Internet connections might also get so full of traffic that one day fast Internet will be a luxury as well.

1. Give people cheap tech so they get dependent on it.
2. When they're addicted, start ramping up the price + scarcity
3. Win

Me? I'm already learning ways to survive without technology. In a few years you might have to live without tech.
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>>107739312
an inspiron 8000 started at $5,000 in 2000. it wasnt a gaming laptop or anything special, just a consumer laptop. And these are 2000 dollars, thats about $9500 today

$3500 today will buy you the flagship of custom brands like eurocom and sager. prices could quadruple, and i wouldnt care, the market is so saturated that mfgs are creating fake crisis, they cant make a buck off of budget equipment because the budget market is dominated by used shit. you really dont know how good you have it right now
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>>107739861
Okay, fine it was real but it's actually a good thing.
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>>107739312
Something like this is actually possible.

Hoard all your old computers and laptops. Even stuff like a Core Duo from 2006 is worth holding on to. Even a shitty AMD E2-1800 is worth keeping.

They're shit old computers, but at least they work, and at least they're open enough that you can install Linux or bsd and do some real computing with them.
In the future where you're only allowed some shitty locked down smartphone or ipad or thin client piece of shit, these old computers will be your only chance to be the owner of your own computing destiny.
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>>107739312
computers were proportionally more expensive than now up until the 2000's
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>>107739312
It's not that you own nothing
You will _have_ nothing

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/lmg/ - a general dedicated to the discussion and development of local language models.

Previous threads: >>107731243 & >>107722977

►News
>(12/31) HyperCLOVA X SEED 8B Omni released: https://hf.co/naver-hyperclovax/HyperCLOVAX-SEED-Omni-8B
>(12/31) IQuest-Coder-V1 released with loop architecture: https://hf.co/collections/IQuestLab/iquest-coder
>(12/31) Korean A.X K1 519B-A33B released: https://hf.co/skt/A.X-K1
>(12/31) Korean VAETKI-112B-A10B released: https://hf.co/NC-AI-consortium-VAETKI/VAETKI
>(12/31) LG AI Research releases K-EXAONE: https://hf.co/LGAI-EXAONE/K-EXAONE-236B-A23B
>(12/31) Korean Solar Open 102B-A12B released: https://hf.co/upstage/Solar-Open-100B

►News Archive: https://rentry.org/lmg-news-archive
►Glossary: https://rentry.org/lmg-glossary
►Links: https://rentry.org/LocalModelsLinks

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>>107744699
I have a feeling there would be a way to buy a replacement from whatever channel you originally bought the system from, even if you're out of warranty.
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>>107744717
True. There's even ones that store extra parts to handle service contracts and shit like that.
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>>107744699
>System Information
> Manufacturer: Supermicro
> Product Name: H8SGL
> Version: 1234567890
> Serial Number: 1234567890
They also last forever, eh? I've got 3 of these in my homelab.
Thinking about retiring most of them at this point, but they just won't die
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Is there an experiment like this:
https://gist.github.com/Artefact2/b5f810600771265fc1e39442288e8ec9
But done for larger models? (Ideally one for 20-30B range, and another for 100+)
I want to see quantifiable, numerical representation of how larger models cope with quantization. (I know they cope better, but I want to see numbers for how much.)
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>>107744768
>H8SGL
Bit ancient tho. Still on DDR3. Only real downside might be power consumption.

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Excluding playing video games on them WTF where computers in the 70s and 80s used for?

Like serious question.

The capacity of them was laughable the 8-inch Floppy disk is ~242KB

>Diskettes formatted for this system stored 242,944 bytes

1 Wikipedia article page saved as ASCII text takes up 25KB at the lowest.

So 10 pages would fill that one up of pure ASCII text.

You can not store books on them.

>Much programs

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>>107731379
Look, all the things you mention. Literally all. Those computer we’re doing, and much much more
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>>107731379

maybe it was like msdos at b and autocad 2.0 at a 5,25" floppy
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>>107731670

you literally never written command
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>>107744765
wdym?
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>>107731463

does your configuration run in star ring or unipoint

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What's the equivalent of a win32 GUI on Linux?
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>>107743657
>windows
>stable
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>>107744675
not my problem
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>>107743191
GTK was an attempt at that. Since it became a GNOME thing there isn't one currently.
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>>107743191
FOX toolkit.
http://fox-toolkit.org/
Take Xfe as an example of software that uses it, it just werks in doesn't rape your RAM.
http://roland65.free.fr/xfe/
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>>107744706
Stable in the sense of unchanging ABI/API.
Win32 was created a billion years ago and it still exists and programs compiled with it 20 years ago still run on modern windows with no issues.

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FAQ:
>How do I activate Windows?
HWID2 generates and registers a permanent legitimate license on MS's activation servers
github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
Usage: paste this into Powershell, run.
irm https://get.activated.win | iex

>and Office?
Same link, select Ohook option
You can also use Office.com if your needs are very minimal
or try OnlyOffice/LibreOffice and set it to save in MSOffice file formats

>What version should I install?
>W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021
Binary identical to Enterprise except no MS Store or apps
Preinstalled with: Edge & Win32 system apps

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>>107743069
>>107743102
22h2 doesn't get updates anymore baka
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>>107743124
time to rollback I see
thanks
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>playing around with a copy of 21h2 on a VM
>try creating a separate partition on C to hold the entire user folder to include appdata
>according to microsoft's own documentation the OS supports sym links with the mklink command
>try it out for pure shits and giggles
>symlink the old appdata folder from the root windows partition to the seperate user partition with the new appdata folder
>also update the corresponding registry keys to point to the new folder on the user partition i made
>reboot
>like half the OS works fine and the other half like installing programs with .exes is just broken despite there being no real reason it shouldnt be working according to microsoft's own documentation
this OS sucks so bad how can a modern operating system not support symbolic links
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>>107740707
enterprise or iot enterprise ltsc
>>107742478
if you have windows 10 drivers
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>>107743841
It's not the OS but the some software simply writes to %appdata% path directly. They see that you are user this and this.

i just bought this one
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>>107742981
How are these for inference?
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>>107743861
It's just a laptop dock
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>>107744057
What happens if you connect it to a desktop?
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>>107744556
You get the extra ports that your thunderbolt host controller supports
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>>107742981
>straight shota port
wtf thinkpad bros...

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Previous Thread: >>107701809

>Links:
>DALL-E 3
https://www.bing.com/images/create
https://designer.microsoft.com/image-creator
>4o
https://chatgpt.com/
https://sora.chatgpt.com
https://copilot.microsoft.com/
>Imagen 4 and Nano Banana (Pro)
https://gemini.google.com/app
https://labs.google/fx/tools/image-fx
https://labs.google/fx/tools/whisk
https://aistudio.google.com/prompts/new_image

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>>107744685
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>>107744685
Nice. Pro plan or something? I thought it couldn't make NSFW
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>>107744777
Look at those dubs and triperinos
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>>107744777
NTA but Grok definitely does nsfw, it just seems sporadic & varies depending on the day. It feels like the devs are constantly going back & forth between wanting to be the one AI platform that openly encourages gooning, and not wanting to get sued into oblivion.

There's a thing going on on twitter the last few days of women complaining that guys are using Grok to make pictures of them in bikinis, so I wouldn't be suprised if it gets lobotomized again soon.

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>Read the sticky: >>105076684

>GNU/Linux questions >>>/g/fglt
>Windows questions >>>/g/fwt
>PC building? >>>/g/pcbg
>Programming questions >>>/g/dpt
>Obsolete laptops >>/g/tpg
>Cheap electronics >>>/g/csg
>Server questions >>>/g/hsg
>Buying headphones >>>/g/hpg
>How to find/activate any version of Windows?
https://rentry.org/installwindows

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>>107744725
https://nyaa.si/view/374642
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is there a way in KDE / plasma to make windows remain centered properly when their dimensions change, ie when scrolling through images? currently it uses the top-left of the window as the basis for the position which results in the window resizing partially offscreen when it loads a larger image.
yes i've tried setting a window rule default position for qimgv to the top left, which does mitigate the problem, but i want the window to remain centered on my screen. also related, is there a way to make the mouse scroll only the active window and not the hovered one? i find that behavior extremely annyoing.
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Is this a problem with 4chanX or what? I keep getting this "no valid captcha" bullshit if I try to submit posts when it says "no verification required" (as it was normal before the new captcha change), niggas really can't stop making the site worse

(and apparently I even can't upload images too to show it too, jfl)
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>>107744750
>>107744642
try this
https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9wzdncrdct3q?hl=en-US&gl=US

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALZip
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>>107744806
>apps.microsoft.com
anon is on linux based on her screenshot

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How can I use AI or ChatGPT or something to make money
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>>107743976
I've seen enough YouTube video slop to know thats a lie
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>>107743959
>use image gen for some super model tier instagram thot
>use llms to keep your new orbiters engaged
>???
>profit
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>>107743959
Use it to learn how to code, only using it to help you with specific single lines of code or understanding basic loops and take handwritten notes

Or do >>107744073 for the retard way to make money off retarded jeets
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>>107744165
>learn to code
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>>107744810
Just teach an LLM to mine coal

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New year edition!

Everything is already from China, but here we discuss the cheap chink shit you see on various sites.
1st rule of /csg/: If it looks too good to be true, it probably is.

Useful links
>TWS IEM reviews: www.scarbir.com/
>Guide: csg-guide.neocities.org/
>Wiki: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Chink_Shit_General

>What headphones/earbuds should I buy?
>>>/g/iemg
>I want a cheap smartphone what should I buy?
>>>/g/spg/
>I want to buy some sort of emulation device

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>>107742313
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256808849389619.html
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>>107739332
Yeah I just looked, it's a 12V header
>search 12v led bar
>shows me nothing but 5v led bars or 12v fans
fuck chink search algorithms
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>>107743619
You probably could have just used a flipper zero. The beauty of the proxmark is it's brute-forcing capabilities.
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>>107743619
>just copied my building's entrance fob with the shittiest chink cloner and app (pcr532
This sounds really cool but it'd feel bad to waste 10 bucks on something I'll probably use just once.
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>>107743765
>Brute force
Yeah, that's definitely a plus
>>107744063
It cost me nothing

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why can't we have nice things? are we supposed to just abandon the best app made for this site?
how do you make the captcha appear?
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>>107743279
I think I remember it from years back. but I can't find anything about it.
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>>107743281
you can do that in kuroba.
you don't need blue.
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>>107743767
Yes, except up until now, Blue would actually get fixed regularly, while there was no chance of Kuroba Dev getting fixed (I used to use that before Blue), so that's why I have Blue installed. It was only recently that the dev had a melty.
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phonefags dont deserve nice things
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>>107744509
Seethe

there’s no way people are already nostalgic for touch screen phones.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FrutigerAero/comments/1q246sx/2000s_to_2010s_nostalgia/
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>>107743316
many people buy retro phones like iphone 4 to play games of that era.
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>>107744653
calling iphone 4 "retro" makes me feel old
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>>107743316
educate yourself as to what nostalgia is you inbred mongoloid.
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For fuck sake zoomers are now being nostalgic about the early era of smartphones.
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DDR2 is still worth it only if it can YouTube 1080p.
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>>107740605
narcissism
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>>107741460
>aren’t modern SSDs faster than most DDR2
if you ignore the 1000x higher latency... sure.
>Is it possible to just bypass RAM
no.
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>>107739307
And yet computers that played Youtube videos fine back then started to choke on the same resolutions as soon as the new non-Flash implementation came out, and still do.
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>>107735998
ddr4 is good enough for me
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that image would make a neat 4chan banner

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Do any of you use this? Is it usable in practice?
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>>107743607
>PVH qubes don't use QEMU. Also KVM is not used in QubesOS at all. QEMU is used for stub device domains for HVM qubes or sys-usb / sys-network / other pci device qubes (which are all HVM
I see, I didn't know/remember that (I haven't used Qubes in about a decade).
still, you have multiple points where your data passes through. doesn't mean you can easily obtain data or compromise everything, but the attack area is not small.

>that's up to you as a user to compartmentalize your system according to your threat model
sure, but the Qubes team could do a lot more, like ship hardened VMs or ways to automate the hardening mitigation measures on install.
that's one of the main criticisms against Qubes. isolation on itself does little, and does even less when you don't harden shit...

>the only connection is Xen backend drivers and yes they're included in the TCB.
notifications and command messaging are also communications. do you think there can't be vulns there?

>I don't know what that even is. I think you're just making shit up.
router* AppVM, sys-net.


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>>107743163
Using Qubes without taking advantage of its compartmentalization feature is just retarded. Qubes have passwordless sudo and are relatively unhardened by default compared to a standard Linux installation, so doing everything in one Qube can actually be worse than just using typical Linux from a security standpoint. If you're not compartmentalizing, then you're doing Qubes wrong. At the very least, you should keep your passwords stored in an offline vault instead of keeping them in an AppVM which connects to the internet.
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>>107743850
>still, you have multiple points where your data passes through.
no such major points where a data passes like you're thinking of (QEMU process on top of Xen etc.). Default qubes are PVH, which is paravirtualized mode with CPU virtualization extensions. The guest kernel natively runs on top of the Xen with paravirtualized interfaces. No QEMU process or such thing. There's stub domains with QEMU processes for HVM qubes but those are also VMs as well (except less secure since those are PV instead of PVH). I do not recommend running HVM qubes out of the neccessary sys-net / sys-usb and others.

If you mean sys-net -> sys-firewall -> ** -> app-vm network chain, the data is passed through xen netback/netfront. that's one thing that needs to be scrutinized (other than the Xen internal thingies). Proxy chains do not decrease the security. The attack surface is smaller than most other setups.

>sure, but the Qubes team could do a lot more, like ship hardened VMs or ways to automate the hardening mitigation measures on install.
Qubes' threat model assumes the guest OS is compromised. The trust boundry is between the VMs, not inside the VM. But it doesn't stop you from using hardened guests. In fact, the downloadable templates include Kicksecure which is same as Whonix but for desktop usage.

to ship with Kicksecure by default instead of one of the most used Linux distros (Debian, Fedora) makes very little sense because guest OS's security is not the project's main goal. They do not guarantee it. This is how an actual threat modeling is done, instead of throwing random things at the kitchen sink.

>isolation on itself does little
that's the whole point of the project. if you're not going to benefit from compartmentalization or deliberately avoid it then there's no reason to install Qubes OS to begin with.
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>>107744793
cont.

>notifications and command messaging are also communications. do you think there can't be vulns there?
actually... yes. I completely forgot about event channels, xenstore and grant tables since I haven't been using vanilla xen for quite some time too. They are the one of the most dense in amount of vulnerabilities. as I said here >>107742330 Xen isn't the pinnacle of type-1 hypervisor design. But it's still a hypervisor after all and its vulnerabilities are only compared to other hypervisors. see https://github.com/hardenedlinux/grsecurity-101-tutorials/blob/master/virt_security.md#avoid-xen-if-you-can

>Qubes gives you root by default, so it's not like an attacker needs that shit to steal data, but even if you modified the VMs to ask for root, an attacker could compromise your browser.
again that's not a part of the Qubes' threat model. An attacker inside an untrusted VM has no access to your browser. You're not supposed to do sketchy things inside your trusted VMs, like opening a random PDF file. Qubes actually has default dropdown entries for opening files in file-manager inside a disposable VM. It even has a document sanitizer which literally takes photos of the documents by opening them in a disposable VM and sending the pixel data over a channel to be reconstructed into a document again.

>it's ok to think you are protected by isolation. keep thinking Qubes will save you from getting pwned
What even is the argument here aside from the things I already answered? Why would isolation not work?
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>>107743986
>Qubes have passwordless sudo and are relatively unhardened by default compared to a standard Linux installation, so doing everything in one Qube can actually be worse than just using typical Linux from a security standpoint
that might be correct if you're using just one qube with paswordless root.
>If you're not compartmentalizing, then you're doing Qubes wrong.
it's not a matter of right or wrong. you claimed it offered no extra value, which I disagreed with explanation.

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are KOSS headphones any good? or are they influencer slop?
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>>107740526
>>107742489
IEMs have tips, earbuds don't. It's not complicated. Say earphones if you want to include both.
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>>107743318
1cm
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>>107734191
f4mi my beloved
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>>107736830
She's a woman but she's bisexual.
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>>107734191
koss portapros still sound good for the price, people like this guy just have bad taste
>>107734249


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