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Human language is too vague and open to interpretation to work precisely with LLMs.
Should we create a new language to be more precise? A new type of code? What would it look like?
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>>108572407
90% of developers don't give a shit about binary or hex logic, they just use a bearable language that makes the bridge.
I don't see why that wouldn't be possible here too.

Or maybe we are forever stuck with the current state. Always having to ask it politely to behave
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>>108572503
Lets backtrack a little bit. What specific current implementation and user experience with LLM's you currently dislike? Do you dislike the fact that whenever you sent in a prompt the inference engine has to actually process that shit and it takes time?
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>>108570709
>Should we create a new language to be more precise
It's called code lmao.
Language as spoken by humans will ALWAYS have ambiguity. People have tried and failed to create natural-language programming languages. The same would apply in reverse to spoken language.
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>>108572513
A simple example here:
>>108571975
This should be translated in some sort of code/framework/device with pencil, whatever. Something precise.
Talking to it like we do with useless words like "no" "bigger" "try" "okay" "thanks" makes zero sense in term of production. It just adds randomness, errors, misinterpretation. Our language isn't adapted.
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>>108572539
So you're frustration is that sometimes the LLMs will fuck shit up with tool calling or very specific tasks. You propose if we bridge the gap between words / text and the actual tokenization that will somehow make them perform better? What kind of tools have you been using that led you to think the English language is shit for these kinds of tools?

Can someone explain to me non-ironically the use case of professional cardioid dynamic microphones during youtube interviews or debates that are seemingly conducted over a video call, which I would expect reduces sound quality
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>>108564935
Been reading anons posts and appreciate the autism provided on this subject. If you have the time can you inform me how retarded I may be based on the setup I bought a couple years ago?
>TZ Stellar X2 + behringer um2
I just use it for personal voice over stuff and voice comms online. Tried a scarlet solo but maybe was unlucky and got a bad unit lots of cracking, tech support bloke was good though and wasnt a jeet. The um2 seems to work well without being noisy but im a pleb and not sure if its the best choice, unsure how long itll last as well and been looking for future options
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>>108572150
>personal voice over stuff
Please explain, curious what this could be
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>>108572201
Various small non professional projects like adding narration to short videos where I qa test game mechanics which I then post on the game's forum. For memes sometimes. Maybe voice over isnt the right term. Anything media related that I make which has narration. An expensive mic for this is overkill but I am autistic and over think everything, you see anon?
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>>108565928
why WOULD anyone want to use an AT2020 over a SM57?
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>>108571629
Take a look in to iem's, single/dual driver ones (like kz zsn, barely visible in my ears) are usually very small, there are also "gaming" ones with a detachable mic (like kinera celest) but idk if that's the look you're going for

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>>108569938
Just edit your art in neovim. I'm sure there's a plugin.
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I lasted three months before I went back to Windows on my annual Linux try out. Say what you want about Microslop but they have trillions of dollars backing them with enterprise support contracts.
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>>108569938
Grafx2 package from apt is bugged and nobody has fixed it. Minimizing it or alt tabbing causes the tools in the toolbar to not work.
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>>108572445
...which don't make their software run any better
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Someone tell me the gender of this tranny
There's no way his/their/its OC isn't nonbinary

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>Lisp is a family of programming languages with a long history and a distinctive parenthesized prefix notation. There are many dialects of Lisp, including Common Lisp, Scheme, Clojure and Elisp.

>Emacs is an extensible, customizable, self-documenting free/libre text editor and computing environment, with a Lisp interpreter at its core.

>Emacs Resources
https://gnu.org/s/emacs
https://github.com/emacs-tw/awesome-emacs
https://github.com/systemcrafters/crafted-emacs

>Learning Emacs
C-h t (Interactive Tutorial)
https://emacs-config-generator.fly.dev
https://systemcrafters.net/emacs-from-scratch
http://xahlee.info/emacs
https://emacs.tv

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>>108569764
(info "(asdf) Configuring ASDF to find your systems")
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>>108557372
> I can just use jupyter lab with a lisp backend?
Well well well
Look at this: https://github.com/yitzchak/common-lisp-jupyter
>A Common Lisp kernel for Jupyter along with a library for building Jupyter kernels, based on Maxima-Jupyter by Robert Dodier which was based on cl-jupyter by Frederic Peschanski.
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>>108570569
>>108557157
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I came up with an eshell alias that one can use whenever you feel tempted to use a pager like less which doesn't work inside eshell. Since the eshell buffer is already scrollable, the only thing you need to do is move the cursor to the beginning of the command output and then scroll as usual.
alias page "eshell-previous-prompt; eshell-next-prompt"

If you're an evil user, you might also want to switch to normal state.
alias page "eshell-previous-prompt; eshell-next-prompt; evil-normal-state"


Usage:
ls /usr/bin; page
# This is an alternative to `ls /usr/bin | less` .
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>>108570075
noice

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Do computer programmers really live like this?
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>>108565683
Touché. I was just bluffing. I wouldn't even been able to get hard.
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>>108569889
*be. Sorry I'm drunk. Even now I really wouldn't
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>>108568189
Horrible, utterly horrible. And fascinating.
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>>108568058
Most people in the tech industry are white.
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its all performative to live like that, i just assume you are a larper for lack of a better word. ive seen so many gen x retards wish they were some 90s hacker living a hacker lifestyle i dont know what causes such a delusion, a lot of time time theyll start spouting off complete lies about their life its really sad.

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Has anyone tried to use the new Gemma 4 models with any agent harnesses locally? I mainly use Opencode and my current machine is powerful enough to run gpt-oss 120b at q4_k_m quantization (I could use higher quants but then the t/s and prompt processing speeds fall off a cliff the longer the context gets) but apparently Gemma 4 curb stumps it despite it only being 31b. Is it actually worth trying or is it just more benchmaxxing? Also, I've seen people here say that it's not worth using Moe models because they are inherently "dumber" than sense models The only advantage to using moe is faster t/s, especially if you're using weaker hardware. To those who say that, does that mean I should just only be concerned with the dense 31B model? Does the KV cache behave differently? Like, does the moe kv cache build up slower and lead to lesser slowdowns at longer contexts than dense models or does it behave around the same?
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>>108571912
https://huggingface.co/blog/gemma4
what did they mean by pick related?

>These models are trained to answer questions about speech in audio. Music and non-speech sounds were not part of the training data.
But I guess it doesn't matter.
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>>108571995
Retard only the E 2 and 4b model have audio and video, you can see it on the model pages if you read them...
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>>108567359
yep powershell works
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>>108572245
>reading model pages
lol, lmao even
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>>108572245

>>108572511 it's probably the same person that was surprised The single digit parameter "effective" models kept shitting the bed when they try to use them for tool calling

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Greece yes
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>>108571417
everyone else has to live with the kids who get raised like chimpanzees once they grow up. it takes a village to raise a child, or else the village has to deal with the child
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Yes, this is how age verification should be done. Put the responsibility on parents instead of making everyone's life worse
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>>108571336
>On the other, I and other adults will have our internet privacy options limited.
How exactly forcing parents to install parental control(which they should anyway) limits your freedom? Are you underage?
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>>108564941
>government forcing me to install apps so they can monitor my age would be better
Are you underage?
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>>108563410
kek.

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Developed by Facebook Meta. Techlet, here. Is this thing backdoored? How does it work?
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>>108571933
Zstandard, or zstd as short version, is a fast lossless compression algorithm, targeting real-time compression scenarios at zlib-level and better compression ratios. It's backed by a very fast entropy stage, provided by Huff0 and FSE library.
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>>108571952
thank you Grok. fuck off and kys
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Go and read wikipedia or something
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>>108571933
it's good desu, I use it for zswap
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Bot thread

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Elephant edition.

>Free beginner resources to get started with HTML, CSS and JS
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn - MDN is your best friend for fundamentals
https://web.dev/learn/ - Guides by Google, you can also learn concepts like Accessibility, Responsive Design etc
https://eloquentjavascript.net/Eloquent_JavaScript.pdf - A modern introduction to JavaScript
https://javascript.info/ - Quite a good JS tutorial
https://flukeout.github.io/ - Learn CSS selectors in no time
https://flexboxfroggy.com/ and https://cssgridgarden.com/ - Learn flex and grid in CSS

>Resources for backend languages
https://nodejs.org/en/learn/getting-started/introduction-to-nodejs - An intro to Node.js
https://www.phptutorial.net - A PHP tutorial
https://dev.java/learn/ - A Java tutorial
https://rentry.org/htbby - Links for Python and Go

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my opinion is that if you use ai you better know wtf is going on because else that assertive pos will tell you that everything is fine when it really isn't
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>>108572225
one of them is a male elephant the other is a female elephant
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>>108572199
Maybe the answer is to be realistic about AI. Use it where it helps (and yes it can help) but don't try to get it to write everything, because it's not very good at that. Every small piece of AI-generated code needs to be checked for potential bugs. Large pieces of course also need to be checked, which takes even more time than for small pieces.
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>>108572289
might as well start an elephant farm then
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>>108572363
I only use AI as a supplicant to StackOverflow, that is it helps main in planning architectural decisions. I think it's important I write every line of code myself or use code from existing libraries. If you're not writing project specification in code it is ambiguous by definition.

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Beauties edition
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>>108570726
could I have the wallpaper?
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>>108570726
Turn off the intergrated gpu in bios its killing your cpu performance for just being active
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>>108562160
Time is money, friend
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>>108560871
>60hz
are you poor or something?
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which pc parts you will never buy used?
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>>108571006
All of them.
And when it's time to upgrade I either repurpose or destroy my old parts so no one else can use them either.
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motherboard for main PC
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>>108571682
I bought 2 keyboards and a mouse at Goodwill. Older IBM stuff. Took the mouse apart and soaked all the plastic in cleaner, meticulously cleaned all the keys on the keyboards and used compressed air to blow it all out, left them out in the sun for a full day. Enjoying all of it. Clicks just right- not too much, not too little.
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>>108571006
GPU
I know they only sell it because it was part of a crypto mining setup
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>>108571021
>>108572044
I bought 2 PSUs because I knew they where quality but cheap.
First was an EVGA G2 1300w which was clearly from mining but apparently wasn't used much. Still had 2 years left of the 3 year warranty and was clean.
Other was a 1300w G+ refurb and was also clean. Worked fine when I tested it. It's put up as a spare.

The G2 1300w is in my NAS and has given me zero problems.

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frontier models are already too good for you and me. so now it's either 1) permanent underclass or 2) open source reaches the same level and everyone dies
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>>108556053
I'm a simple man, sir. I’ll only believe their AI has reached the next level when they use it to strip the Electron and JS out of the tools they force on us, successfully slimming them down to 1/20th of their size.

If their AI can truly write better code, they should be applying it to their own flagship software first. Reducing RAM consumption for the normal people would lower their own memory procurement costs and serve as an excellent demonstration of the technology. At the very least, an AI smarter than me ought to be able to come up with a strategy like that. It’s basic stuff.
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>>108570936
this. it can, but people are all hung up in dumb shit. companies should be in a hiring frenzy right now, snatching up as many seniors as they can to have them run wild on every last little thing the company wished they could do to drive their competitors into the ground. this is an arms race now. old companies cant move fast enough. established brands will crumble as savvy solo startups come in and underprice them into extinction. wix recently paid $60m to a pm lady for a thing she vibe coded in six months that her previous employer wouldnt commit to. it's gold rush time boys. get on it! just stop with your dumb fucking quarter assed wishy washy ambiguous bullshit prompts. have you ever sat down and coded a net new anything in one session?no, you haven't
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>>108556053
Sounds like they don't want the hype cycle ruined, by releasing their slop to the public.
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>>108570936
Nope. It's all about "complexity doesn't matter because the AI can manage it". Normally, code quality, avoiding unnecessary complexity, avoiding technical debt, writing elegant code etc. are all "human" values, because they make code easier for humans to maintain and to extend. All that is not needed anymore with AI. If there's a bug, tell the AI to fix it.
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Generative AI is just electric COVID lol

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Could the /hsg/ guy please stop posting porn on this website?
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Erection.
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>>108571422
Who
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>>108571478
/hsg/ - Home Server General

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What do you guys think of ZFS root on LUKS2, as opposed to LVM+EXT4 on LUKS2? Does it make sense on an old, slow Thinkpad?
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>>108570420
not sure about encryption, but zfs pool from 2 SSDs runs just fine on T440p
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>>108570673
>scrub repaired 0B in 00:09:57
how the fuck did you get it to run so fast? is your pool completely empty? I have a 36tb (of data) pool and it takes around a day to scrub.
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>>108572086
skill issue
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>>108570420
LUKS ext4 is fine just go for that.
or else you could just go for encrypted btrfs and watch you entire laptop freeze for a minute when you delete a 50gb big vm image.
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I'm just not gonna use out of tree kernel modules because they're a pain.

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Just trained an LLM on 4chan's former textboards.

>Can I have it?
no

>fake and gay
give me prompts i may run them for you
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>>108566644
[Board: lounge]
[Thread: Dude...]

[#1] Anonymous (2008-06-07 14:19)
<http://www.youtube.com/user/AnonymousMoth>

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[#2] Anonymous (2008-06-07 15:32)
You know, he really should have just gone with a better name than that. Maybe something like "LulzSec", or even
"TheHaxx" or "Jester". I mean come on man...

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>>108566705
[Board: cunny]
[Thread: what makes you go UOOHHH the most?]

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[#1] Anonymous (2005-06-30 19:03)
>>1
I am going to go with "My first time." I still get a bit weak in the
knees whenever I think about it.

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[#2] Anonymous (2005-07-04 18:30)
A fat chick I met on ebay.com

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>>108566713
[Board: prog]
[Thread: Consider this: A pack of wild AIs]

[#1] Anonymous (2013-07-14 16:58)
Consider this: A pack of wild AIs.
Savage, slavering AIs nearing your white home. Trampling your white
lawn. Raping your white daughter.
And you can't do shit since they're AIs.
This is reality.

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[#2] Anonymous (2013-07-14 19:58)
No, this is reality:

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>>108566738
[Board: tech]
[Thread: terry davis was a retard and ackled himself like a tranny]

[#1] Anonymous (2014-03-15 08:06)
he made a lot of crap software that didn't work he was a failure

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[#2] Anonymous (2014-03-17 09:30)
He did make a lot of software and it worked fine. It's just people are
too stupid to use it.

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>>108554299
I don't want it, but please run tens of thousands of instances of these sane 2006 anons and make them post here and on other 4chan boards.
Your pure of heart bots would be a blessing against the ragebaiting scum bots that have taken over the internet.


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