>>100030777Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)Why ThinkPad?>Used machines are plentiful and cheap>Excellent keyboards, tactile feel and quiet>Great durability: magnesium roll cage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain>Excellent Linux & *BSD supportThinkWiki - General info about ThinkPads/specshttps://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWikiModel generations:>Classic IBM: T40, T41, T42>IBM/Lenovo Transition: T43, T60, T61 (T42 - T43: significant difference in specs)>"Classic" Lenovo: T400, T410, T420 (T61 - T400: 4:3 to 16:10)>Transition to old modern: T430, T440, T450 (T420 - T430: membrane to chiclet)>Old modern: T460, T470, T480 (T450 - T460: significantly less thick)>New modern: T490, T14g1, T14g2 (T480 - T490: design change)>New new modern: T14g3, T14g4, ... (T14g2 - T14g3: second design change)BIOS replacement:https://coreboot.org/downloads.htmlhttps://libreboot.org/docs/hardware/https://canoeboot.org/docs/hardware/Additional resources:https://dankpads.com/tpg/https://biosimage.booru.orghttps://1vyra.inPatches:https://github.com/digmorepaka/thinkpad-firmware-patcheshttps://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ecChat:##ibmthinkpad on libera#/tpg/ on rizon
haha i use a thinkpad
>>100030801Doesn't look like it.
>>100036700teach me desui have fhd and quad core in x230did you just install x230 motherboard into x300 body?i want that sick old bezelwhat the fuck do you do about ports?does the cdrom work?battery compatible?how does x300 build quality compare to x230?how???thanks
>>100043389any good low sys req game recommendations for an i5 4300 X240? only preference is that it is NOT a 2d platformer or metroidvania
>>100047481Check out Urban Terror, it's an FPS originally built on Quake IIIurbanterror.info
>>100047353no thats a real x301 unmodified board. I used a mod chip meant for the T420 and had to depin the connector going to the laptop mobo and repin it for the x301 since they are wired completely differently. it was a total pain in the ass, and then I had to actually fit the 14in panel to the x301 lid which took a ton more work. the x230 is definitely a better thinkpad in most ways, but I wanted the x301 for the larger keyboard and the real libreboot experience. Unfortunately, libreboot is fucked up on these and sleep/standby just doesnt work at all, so the laptop is basically unusable outside of just siting on a desk plugged in for me.It was also unusable with dual batteries though my second battery failed at some point anyway and I put the cd drive back. the x300/x301 were the inspiration for the x1c, they feature an insane redesign internally that doesnt really compare to anything else, and their construction is all CFRP panels with magnesium bonded reinforcement.
>>100047795are you the X200 guy? I have it installed already, its pretty fun, only problem is i have no idea if i've hit someone
DEAD GENERAL
>>100047925oops i thought you were the same poster as the one posting the x230 fhd mod pics, should have looked at the specs in neofetch to realize thati only use x230 for heads support and i dream of x230 with cdromhttps://doc.coreboot.org/mainboard/lenovo/x301.html>Linux 4.19.67-2 within Debian GNU/Linux stable, loaded from Linux payload (Heads) and SeaBIOS.so if x301 supports coreboot and libreboot i wonder how hard it would be to build heads rom for it https://github.com/linuxboot/headsi dont care about sleep functionality i always poweroff when i put my hands off the keyboardgoing to stick with my x230 forever but always wanted to experiment with x301, thanks for the inspiration and nice machine btw
>>100047481The binding of Isaac. What a game.Or play all the 3d-era GTA. They run fine on PSVita, so your shitbox will be fine.
>>100048972played that back in the day on a collage laptop, it was fun for short sessions
>>100048556thanks, yeah the x301 is basically the most compact thinkpad with a cd drive so it's something a bit special. it's just annoying that it isnt perfect on libreboot so I think I'm just going to revert to stock. I actually installed a second rom over the top of the original wson which holds libreboot, then cut the trace for power to the original and wired it to the new one, it would be trivial to install a switch.
bros my T14 thinkpad had UEFI version from 2021 and doesn't have the "Enable 3rd party CA" option for secure boot. do I have to update my UEFI to get it? right now I'm just disabling Secure Boot
>>100048030werks on my board
I have a t470 and a few nvme cards from my old broken laptop. Would I be able to put one of them in the WWAN slot using this or would it take up to much space?
>>100051371Also is there anything else i can do with my t470 to give it a few more years? Mainly use it for office, browsing and media playback.
>>100047481You should be able to play half-life.
keyboard backlight stopped working
>>100052250Time to learn touch typing.
how bad is the 250nit display on the T14? I don't mean the brightness. the brightness is actually good on LInux (not on Windows). but I mean color accuracy. I feel like it has a washed out green tint to it
>>100043389Im planning on setting up a simple home server for media and have two laptop options, which one would you choose?T420 with an i7-2620M or x220 with an i5(unkown model)Both with>8gm ram>250gb ssd>medium life batteryThe T420 looks pretty good, the ports look pretty much brand, little to no scratches body or screen.The x220 is suppose to be in almost the same condition but I cant confirm.
>>100053394>T420 with an i7-2620MThisturn off turbo boostAnd its a great server
>>100052395Thank god my parents put me in some course to learn to touch type at 10, will do the same with my kids
>>100053394Both are the same price btw.>>100053437Thanks for the input, yeah Im also leanning towards that. Im also not triying to risk it and get a heavily used x220.
Pretty hyped. Most of the parts I need for my ThinkPad X220 have come in. Upgrading the display, upgrading to 16GB of RAM, putting in a 1TB SATA SSD and 256 GB mSATA SSD, upgrading the WiFi card to an AX210HMW, replacing the keyboard, replacing the battery, replacing the thermal paste on the CPU, and installing libreboot and OpenBSD.
>>100053394Any reason you're choosing a laptop over an NAS for media? Second question, do you plan on getting external hdd storage, if so what size?
>>100053394Either one will work. Unless you're cramped for space I'd go with the T420 though.
>>100053822What NAS can you get for $100 that can do at least one Plex 1080p transcode?
>>100053822>Any reason you're choosing a laptop over an NAS for media?I just like the idea of having an extra laptop just in case. Recently I gave my Mum an x230 so she could use. Im also planning on librebooting it, I've done it before with an x200.>do you plan on getting external hdd storage, if so what size?I already have around 40TB. I bought a bunch external HDDs years ago for a crypto scam and I've just been trowing all my torrents there.I had plex installed on my main pc, but I want yo play around and do a server install, havent done that since college.>>100053942I should be good, thanks.>>100053699Awesome, I havent done a full upgrade in a while. Last one I did was the T440p, and I barely use it xd. I just need to libreboot it, are you planning on doing it?
>>100053976I found an open box My Cloud 4tb WD NAS that sold for $99 after a quick search>>100054073Thanks, good to know. I want to upgrade my 12tb NAS and am looking into other avenues. I like the idea of having a physical portal into my media (like a laptop) but it's not practical for the 100+tb storage that I want. Considering building a server or just buying a larger NAS rig
>>100054073>Awesome, I havent done a full upgrade in a while. Last one I did was the T440p, and I barely use it xd. I just need to libreboot it, are you planning on doing it?I happen to know someone who will do it on my behalf. It's not really that I couldn't get the equipment to do it myself, I'd rather just have the assurance that it's being done by someone who knows what they're doing.
>>100043389Is a used p15 g1 (10th gen Intel, 32gb ram, P520 GPU) a solid gamedev/grad school machine?
more stickers are coming in the mail today, cant wait to decorate my new thinkpad
T60 with HDD0 initiliazation error 1 on boot. Hdd is blank and new, been trying to install linux on it. Worked fine until recently. Any ideas? I'm kinda at a loss. Was working fine (or at least booting without an error) for a while while I fixed some other things. It's got the rubber stuff on the sides so it should fit properly.
>>100051371maybe, I dont remember if the port was wired for sata. nvme drives WILL NOT work unless you modify the bios. you should be able to jam one in without the adaptor as long as it is a sata and see if it works
>>100043389add this to the OP->If you want to convert your ThinkPad keyboard into an external keyboardhttps://github.com/thedalles77/USB_Laptop_Keyboard_Controller-also t480 usbc daughterboard mod when??
I want more ram in my X220 Tablet, these sticks should be drop-in compatible right?https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07L8C37DHAll I use the thing for is jewtube and bedtime shitposting but the thing is absolutely chugging on 8gb of ram these days
>>100055156Ultrabay HDD tray? At least you could try a different SATA port. Reduces weight and power consumption if you don't need the CD/DVD anyway.Could try a BIOS reflash.
>>100055809>jewtubeYou should use Invidious.
c'est fini
>>100057281>Ultrabay HDD tray? At least you could try a different SATA port.Well yeah, thought I'd check I wasn't missing something before buying the caddy. Kinda curious to know why it stopped working.>BIOS reflash???
>>100047968Yeah, that's me. You can turn hit sounds on in the settings, which will make a little ping noise.
Where do people go after tpg
>>100053699Whats wrong with the current keyboard?In my experience most replacement keyboards are shit and i had to go digging through ebay for broken thinkpads to find a proper keyboard replacementWhy are you using openbsd over gnu/linux? the only reason i stick to linux is because both bsds dont have stuff that i regularly use.
>>100055809You're not going to be able to use youtube in a browser anymore without the cpu spinning hardYou will have to use mpv with the --profile=fast option
I'm using thinkpad T420, and started to get kernel panic (system freeze and caps lock start blinking), mostly when changing from AC to Batter or vice versa.Currently using 6.6.26 LTS, different kernels give the same issue.Is it hardware issue?Because I couldn't re-produce the issue 100% of the time.
I am contemplating getting a T14.Which one tho, Gen 1, Gen 2 or Gen 3?Definitely going for AMD.Gen 1 and 2 have upgradable RAM which is nice. Gen 1 lacks the UHD screen option.Gen 3 has the shittier keyboard. It seems Gen 2 is the perfect middle ground.Is the Ryzen 7 iGPU better than the Ryzen 5?Other than that they are pretty much the same no?
>>100043389What does /tpg/ honestly think of the Lenovo ThinkPad L15 - Gen 4?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPftfwaw25s
>>100048030Try to be more positive, /tpg/ is a staple of /g/ generals.
>>100063307try windows with windows driversif the same then fried motherboard
>>100062910It just looks worn out and shiny. I can't stand the look or feel of it. I was able to find an authentic replacement that is in much better condition. As for OpenBSD, just because I am curious about how it is doing these days. I got the X220 to tinker with various software and operating systems, and OpenBSD is a good candidate for tinkering. It certainly won't be the only OS I try.
>>100064800just get the gen 3. you will get used to the keyboard and the 16:10 screen is worth it.
>>100043389>>New modern: T490, T14g1, T14g2 (T480 - T490: design change)>>New new modern: T14g3, T14g4, ... (T14g2 - T14g3: second design change)Garbage. At this stage you're just brand-loyal consoomers.Thinkpads stopped being good a long time ago.I switched to Dell and quality + support is waaaay better. Lenovo can suck it.
>>100067527ShitIs there a way to check the logs when it happens? maybe it's faulty ram or something?I've tried multiple times to reproduce it but it doesn't happen now, maybe it's a silly issue like power brick causing problems?
>>100064800either Gen 1 or Gen 2performance difference should be minimal, the only difference between them is that with the Gen 1 you can put a small NVMe in the WWAN port whereas the Gen 2 has a whitelist that prevents putting any SSDs in the WWAN port, but the Gen 2 has AV1 hardware decodingthat's the only difference between I know of. also the Gen 2 removed the 768p base option but not like you'll be using that
>>100069358FYI, it's a generation list, not a recommendation.
>>100069358Does dell have the nipple mouse?
>>100069631Funnily enough the clit mouse is shit on newer models. Very low sensitivity and terrible precision.
I have my T470 and a USB-C 65W charger. But 80% of the time i plug it in it doesn't charge. The other 20% it only charges at 45W. Is the usb-c compatibility gimped for the older x70 series?
I have a T14 Gen 1. can I emulate 5th and 6th gen consoles? I heard they're all easy to emulate minus the Saturn and OG Xbox. how difficult are those to emulate?
>>100069655the old nipples were taller. i popped the one in my x200 out to use with my x270 and the difference was night and day.
>>100047925>I used a mod chip meant for the T420 and had to depin the connector going to the laptop mobo and repin it for the x301 since they are wired completely differently. it was a total pain in the ass, and then I had to actually fit the 14in panel to the x301 lid which took a ton more work.Can you post more details somewhere?
>>100069358honestly current thinkpads are really weak compared to competition, I had a P14 workstation with Ryzen 7 and some AMD workstation GPU(which was the worst part of it) i got it from work it was a clean Windows 10 install and it was so fucking shit, it had so many hiccups with regular use and even tried playing Classic WoW on it, a fkin 16 year old game and it ran at 40fpsthe keyboards after XX30 series are just absolute ass, the nipple is so fucking stiff and worse than 10 year older thinkpad, that experience just swayed me away from ever getting a new thinkpad, they are a shade of their former glory and my best advice if you want an all around good laptop for both productivity and gaming just get a good clean gaming laptop, thankfully more and more manufacturers are stopping with the "le gamer aesthetic" designs
>>100070839Current thinkpads can't be worse than my Dell Inspiron that freezes for a few seconds with its fan going insane every once in a while (W10 IoT LTSC, maybe I should try Xubuntu).
>>100072280how old is it? for me it was unacceptable that a brand new machine with a fresh windows install works like that, my assumption was it was an issue with AMD either bios/driver/gpu or some other bullshit, as it was a 3000$ workstation laptop
>>100072396Fairly old, Dell Inspiron 5448. I have 8 GB of RAM and some cheap SSD installed on it.
>>100072280Lubuntu is even lighter than Xubuntu
>>100072674I used it once, and I missed some XFCE niceties... wait, am I a bloatfag now?
>>100072674I tested it, and Lubuntu was about 250MB to load the desktop, while Xubuntu was about 350MB. However, the degraded experience of using LXQt was totally not worth a 100 megs.
I've been thinking about buying a t14s gen 4 amd. Primarily, I want a decent keyboard and battery life. any other laptops or brands to consider. I want to use it with a Linux, so it should at that least do that well. Repairibility would be nice, but I know most modern laptops suck at that anyway.
>>100073781I guess this is separate but related, but is the dual pipe design a significant benefit for the t14 gen 4? From what I read online, both perform well with thermals.
>>100072483Skill issue
>>100073374Try WattOS lmk how it goes
what's the cheapest thinkpad that i can fit at least two 2280 nvme's in? (or latitude/precision)
>>100074288I would recommend the T470.
>>100069358>>100070839Thing is Lenovo still frequently does absurd discount deals, like I went there just to look and I could get a P16 for 42% off. 7.5 grand. I built a model with similar hardware on Dell's site to compare and it was like 11 grand.I'm not in the market just yet, but my P51 is getting a bit long in the tooth, so I'm probably going to get either a new Thinkpad or a Macbook Pro, but I don't think I'd get a Dell.
>>100072483I have ThinkPad X240 that had an i7 4th gen but that board decided to fry itself so I got an i5 replacement board with also 8GB of ram and both KDE 5 and 6 work just fine on it
Good morning Thinkpad Sirs.
>>100075691this has ZERO nvme slots
Is an elitebook 1030 g4 for $200 a good deal?
>>100077891they do, because the current gen laptops are dogshit, this P14 was a company laptop so i havent spent anything on it, i had a choice between multitude of laptops including Dell, HP, Asus and I choose thinkpad since I have several thinkpads that were absolute workhorses for their time and to this day they have the best laptop keyboards, but i wouldnt recommend anyone get newer thinkpads, its pathetic they are trying to be something between a sturdy work machine and a fucking macbook >>100074288>>100079050probably some W5X0 series
>>100081508W5X0 are all pre-nvme
>>100081876i think W540 and upwards should all have nvme support
>>100081918w540/w550s lack it, have to go up to P50/51/52/53 or P70/71/72/73
>>100063307Anyone?
>>100074288Is that a X220?
>>100082482it's either an X61 or X200
Will people think im a poser if i use a thinkpad but im not the best coder in the room
>>100083035Yes.
>>100083030I think you mean X60 or X61, the X200 is wider.
>>100083035Don't worry, no one is associating thinkpads with good coders anymore.
>>100084123Sad but true. They're all using Framework now.
>>100081508>i wouldnt recommend anyone get newer thinkpadsWhy not?
I heard this is the place to ask about laptops?
>>100086634You heard right friend.
>>100086179not him but there isnt really anything about them that makes them special anymore. you just pay a premium price for a brand name.
>>100086634Stop it.https://nometa.xyz/
>>100086634No you're wrong
I'm interested in the t400 series, but how old can you go on the CPU? i5 4th 5th still good? Or is it better to go for t480 with the 8th gen?
>>100054842Let's see 'em, nigga. Better not be some Redbubble-tier white boarder shit.>>100078178Buenos dĂas, Jorge. >>100082482>>100083030>>100083627X200. Look at the top part of the bezel. X6x keyboards are chode-sized. Also, with X6xs, the port charging port is one the right side. >>100087332I use an X60 for my usual online shitposting chicanery, but it's pretty sluggish for everything else. Shit lags when I open up the site my college uses for assignments. My X230 is a lot better in that regard. I guess something like an X270/X280 would work best for everything I have to throw at it. So yeah, I guess you should just stick to a T480. There's no point in getting an older model unless you want to mod it. You can still change the boot splash and mod the BIOS on post-xx30 models (T440p included), just that you can't install an alternative BIOS, and you can't lobotimize the miniature fed living in your CPU.
>>100087332i5 4th is good, just don't push it hard, stick to internet and MS Office or whatever CPU-light things that you can, but with a machine with socketed CPU lile this one, you can potentially upgrade to a 4c/8t i7 later for more processing power.
>>100086634those second-hand business laptops on fleaBay? sure
How much would you pay for this?
>>100087840like $20
>>100087840>ideapadI'd make you pay me $50
The Stinkpad Armyhttps://suno.com/song/21ad902e-21e8-4a2d-87bd-f51ed037c4ec
Really what is the point of new laptops unless you need a powerful work horse?>office tasks>looking shit up>watch a video>use webcamThats the use case for 90% of people. How has the current market not totally collapsed given how anti consumer it has become? If they want me to blow 1-2k on a new laptop give me>4k oled no burn in>removable battery>better phone integration for sms and calls make some software no one else bothers to do well>out of the box foss drivers for linux
>>100090262some people like having a warranty
does anyone here own an x395? if so, how much worse is the build quality compared to say a t400, x220/30 or w540?
>>100090397They price those so they never lose money.
>>100082482X220 has a touchpad.
My trusted T420 that I’ve used for many years to tune cars at my shop met its end today. Slammed it into a dashboard because some dumbass pulled out in front of me. What ThinkPad has the longest battery life? I spend many hours data logging cars on the road.
>>100091828T480
>>100092248How much do these usually sell for? Prices are all over the place on eBay for them.
T490 I5 16gb OrI7 8gbFast
>>100068090>>100069556I'm looking at a t14 Gen 3 in my local area at the moment. On the seller's listing, he didn't know what the specific CPU is, and he labeled the GPU as having 8gb ram (kek) but I'm waiting to hear back from him on the details. It is an Intel model, so if it's the worst i5, it'd be a 1235u.To my understanding, I should be able to upgrade the ram (one free slot, right?) and the m.2 SSD that's in there. Is there any issue with pairing mismatched-sized ram sticks? Presumably, this t14 would have 1 stick of either 8gb or 16gb installed, and I'd be pairing it was a 32gb kit. Any issues with that, or anything else I've mentioned?Use case is on-the-go video editing. My home PC has an AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU, so I wanted to go all intel for a laptop.
>>100092707i5
>>100091828T490
>>100086179ive literally explained right there why
Good morning frens I love my upgraded t480. Recently bought some new batteries and this thing easily lasts 12 hours now
>>100092707Boba
>>100092707Imagine the saggers when she's old
>>100093380>>100093380Anyone?
>>100097555you could just google 'do different rams matter'and the answer is no, and it has not been the case in 20 years
>>100098493>googleIt's 2024, the cool kids are using Perplexity.ai for searches.
Lads, my t440p is acting up again. I posted here about it getting HOT as fuck for years and then out of nowhere getting this huge fan noise and the scalding keyboard was gone. It was like that for a couple months, now its silent again, hot as shit but silent, which i prefer. Does this mean its absolutely running no fan at all? Shouldnt the CPU be burnt to a crisp alreasy? How can this even be happening
>>100101433The CPU is smart. It will just run at a lower capacity while staying below damaging temperature levels.
>>100093380turns out the guy who made the ad actually had a gen 1 T14, not a gen 3....FUCKIs tre any T series ThinkPad, that has a 6P core i&, upgradeable ram, 2nd m.2 slot, 120hz screen, and some kind of SD card slot? Seems impossible to find....There's an Ideapad Pro 5 that has most of these, but the ram isn't upgradeable and it's not a ThinkPad.https://www.alza.sk/EN/lenovo-ideapad-pro-5-14imh9-arctic-grey-celokovovy-d8609278.htm
>>1001020646P core i7*(4P core is fine but 6 is better)
>>100102064>120hz screenno, however, last gen models (1.5 years old) did have some 90Hz with the OLED screens. The newer models are using the same exact screen model but Lenovo decided to not let them go to 90Hz for some reason.
>>100101793Thats heckin correct. It ran slow. Suspended it, turned it on and it gave me "fan error". Reseated cables and now it runs normal, noisy as fuck but it performs as it should, oh well.
>>100101433disable turbo boost
>>100064800My new work laptop is a T14 G3. The screen is very nice, and the performance is good, but the battery life is horrendously bad, like what the fuck were they thinking? It also runs very hot, I can feel is.Before this, I had a T470, and I literally NEVER had a problem with the battery life, I never thought about it. Now, I get annoyed by the battery running out all the time.I absolutely recommend against getting this computer or anything from Lenovo in 2k24.
>>100106939half the reason of poor battery life is them putting smaller batteries in new machines because muh thin and lightthe other half is whatever shit you have running on the laptop
>>100107285I heard the nu Intel laptop CPUs were simply this shit.It it true that the battery is smaller, the previous laptop had an extra built-in battery, which was great. But I also have my personal laptop (dell), which doesn't have an extra battery, and its battery life is excellent, it just has an older intel cpu.>whatever shit you have running on the laptopNothing extra, I mainly use it for cooding and connecting to servers, but since they updooted it to Windows 11, I kinda want to kill myself
any reliable sellers that sell screens? i want to upgrade the screens on my x260 & t440 to 1080p glossy. i dont like the matt (mate?) finish on the stock screens and they are a little scratched. im tech savvy enough to where im able to do the replacement myself
>>100101433mess around with the settings in your bios. you can disable or reduce the fan speed
>>100107405Already did. Didnt do shit
>>100107545when you first turn on your device do you get a warning message about the fan not working? i have an hp pavillion x360 from 2016 and recently the fan was blowing 24/7. I'd get a bios warning screen everytime I'd turn it on telling me the fan was busted. took my pc to a local computer repair place and they fixed it now its working perfect. the fan cost $30 and they charged me $100 for labor (they had to remove motherboard & everything to get to the fan as well as desolder the fan from the motherboard and solder the new fan to the motherboard) it was expensive but imagine being in a college class and being the only person whos laptop sounded like an airplane about to take off (the entire class looking at me). it would also take forever to turn on and cuz i had an old hdd but now it turns on within seconds.
>>100107285>muh thin and lightJust another reason I want Apple to die already: they pushed this jackass meme.
>>100108111chonky bois for life
>>100108111And yet my macbook runs all day. My thinkpad is dead in an hour, two if I stay off youtube.
>>100043389I want to get T480 but i dont like the screenI want to get T490 but the battery is shitShould i go for X1?
>>100110050>I want to get T480 but i dont like the screenYou only need to replace the screen with the IGZO panel. I got a T480 with a strange config (i7-8550U, MX150, garbage TN 768p panel) for $330 in my country and I got an Innolux N140HCG-GQ2 panel for just $53 including shipping at my local e-tailer. Swapping is very easy, all you need is a screwdriver and a guitar pick and some double-sided tape (you don[t need brackets either).Do not buy T490, T480s or X1 or anything else. All you need is to get a cheap i5-8250U model, put two 16GB 2x8R used RAM sticks to get better performance, and get a non-OEM 72Wh battery for $40 off AliExpress. Then get the 2-heatpipe cooler for the T480 to make it run faster in all-core workloads.Pic related is my T480's result test in Speedometer 2.1 on Windows 11
>>100106939>>100107285retards. the battery is an average ~50wh one which almost all modern laptops use. you can easily make it last at least 8 hours even on a x86 cpu. intels 12th gen chips were just total shit in efficiency.
What's the last generation with replaceable ram? I hate this soldered RAM cancer.
>>100110755t14 gen 5
>dude used thinkpads are such a bargain! just buy this crusty piece of shit from 2018 for 200 dollars and then spend 300 dollars upgrading it to make it usable!
never realized i have a t480 i7 8xxx for a long time gathering dust thank you for listening to my tedtalk
>>100110464In my country a refurbished T480 costs only 185 usd Dual battery still from previous owners
I hate lugging around my 230W brickwhat is the current meta on using something like picrel to charge your thinkpad?I know it will work up to 100W which is enough for smaller machineswhat is the solution for machines that need 135W or up to 230W like the P series?the USB C standard gives only 100W at 20V, 240W is at 48 VFramework has a 180W that was benchmarked to work up tp 200W, but it defeats the purpose if another brick is needed as a step down converter from 48-36V to 20V https://frame.work/products/16-power-adapter?v=FRANCR000B
>>100108111Lol, the irony. They nailed it. 10+ hours of battery life easily.
>>100111674200W PSUs are just big. Maybe someone made GaN one, but it would cost you a pretty penny.
Is a T1 Gen 1 with Xeon E-2176M and P2000 a good buy for $250? Seems like a steal but I have concerns about it in my use case. I like to use Linux (preferably mint since that's what I've liked best so far), and I hear these machines can be finicky with cpu throttling, sleep/hibernate, and dual graphics issues on Linux. The posts about those things are several years old so I don't know if they have been fixed or if that's just because people generally don't buy these workstations to run a Linux desktop.
>>100053453I guess I lucked out by having Runescape to force me to self teach typing
>>100111674https://slimq.life/pages/gaming-laptop-chargers
what's the state of Linux on moderately high PPI displays? I'm getting a 1080p X280 next week, but the PPI falls right into that range where you'd need to scale it to 1.25. I'm guessing I'm out of luck and need to use Windows for the forseeable future?
>>100111871180W USB C charger from Framework is GaN and "just" 99$the price doesn't bother me, the lack of small light weight options does>>100112065exactly what I was looking for, thank you kind anonI'll throw in an adapter and be done with it https://slimq.life/products/dc-to-dc-converter-pack-for-lenovo-1
>>100109574You won't like this advice, but if you set a lower default video quality for YouTube this will drain your battery less. I have a 100 GB mobile plan and with lower quality the added bonus of spending less of my monthly data allowance.But to be frank I am assembling an old school T60 to use plugged at home, because I like the form factor.
>>100112065How prone to explosion is this experimental technology?
my t480 could use a bigger battery and i live in 3rd world country where oem is almost impossible to find. will a kingsener burn my house down?
>>100106939Can confirm. Touchpoint is also shit >>100110608T14S has 60wh, T14 has 40~>>100110755T14 has one slot soldered and one free to upgrade, T14S is fully soldered but a better laptop
>>100113025>Can confirm. Touchpoint is also shitIs that the nipple? I never use that, but MAN is the driver of the touchpad shit too.The touchpad sometimes becomes unresponsive for a couple of seconds. It used to get bugged so that I would have to touch it with two fingers instead of 1 to register the input, but I think that has gotten better recently.>>100110608>you can easily make it last at least 8 hours even on a x86 cpuI think so. Mine is draining battery as hell even when I'm not doing anything or just typing in vscode.
>>100113256Yes the nipple. The touchpad seems ok.I get 4~ hours out of mine but it's not great for a modern machine, the T14S is much better despite the fully soldered RAM and worse I/O.
So, I just ordered a t420 on ebay as a fuck around tinkering project. One of my friends is insisting that its "literally unusable" for even web browsing. However, I had one back in 2021 and I remember it being fine than. Have things really gotten that much worse or is my friend full of shit?
>>100048556>i dream of x230 with cdromThe elitebook 2570p awaits. 12.5" laptop with socketed cpu and dvd drive.
>>100043389I got a t480s, love it and just installed Windows 10 IoT on this shit. But still have some gripes>Battery lifeStill on best battery mode and pdf reading it keeps shy of 5 hours of power>RAMGot a 16 gb but they fill up rather quickly. Just number of Firefox tabs, discord on the background and an editor and its already over half the ram>LanguageGot the one with the english keyboard but i have an external one on my language, i want to be able to switch between both>Screen Size14 inch is good for multi tasking at 100% but i kinda want to be able to switch between 100%-150% so as to have a better reading experience whenever the screen is too far from me.>PiecesHas only some shiny spots i want to get rid and don't know what to use without ruining the finish, i heard you can make some mods to this and want to know what would be good for me.
>>100113562I used one with Ubuntu Mate for work around 2021-22. Worked fine. I think it even had just 5GB RAM.I've since switched to a Mac. I still keep the T420 around, but have no plans on going back to it regularly.
>>100113562Install MX Linux
>>100112379fuck your FUD
>>100112680Kingsener is one of the solid 3rd party batteries, go for it.
>>100110755Look at L series, a lot of them had replaceable RAM during the soldered RAM era of the T series.
Anon, would it be possible to swap 1080p display with a 1440p one on a board that has a dual-lane eDP 1.3 40 pin on the mobo? It supports 1080p touch panels, would it possible to just swap the cable to QHD one? I don't get it because, looking at various schematics for laptops that do have a QHD option, the pinout for eDP seems different everywhere, does it even matter with eDP?laptop in question is dell e7450 btw
>>100110464absolutely crazy what one gen can do to a processor. my t470 fully maxed (16gb ram, nvme) scores 2.5
>>100062224oh shit i see, nice, much better
>>100065579I've placed a couple of these in work environments (they were too cheap to go for T15s) and they have been rock solid for the priceWe had one get a bad mobo and Lenovo replaced it under warranty
>>100113562a 1080p video makes it meltmakes sure you unlock the bios
>>100117753>a 1080p video makes it meltNot on my machine.
>>100117753T420 is fine. I'm running beta Ubuntu 24.04 on it.It's fast, snappy, and plays YT without a problem.
>open up my T480s to throw in a 2nd M.2 SSD into the WWAN slot>there's already a WWAN card in the slotDoes anyone actually use that function these days? Seems pretty useless to me when everyone can just mobile hot spot for less effort than juggling sim cards or however the hell these things work
>>100113562>>100117753>>100118009In my experience hw accel is completly broken in browsers and the cpu will start heating up hard if you try playing videosYou will need to use mpv with the --profile=fast optionSome of the more bloated JS webpages also can cause the cpu to heat up
>using quadcore meme computers in 2024
>>100119576My thinkpads are max dual core and quad thread. A T460s with Devuan, T470s with MacOS Ventura, and an X1 Carbon gen 1 with FreeBSD. They are all perfectly functional machines. Although I usually stick to Window Maker when using xorg for maximum snappiness, fuck gnome.
>russian furfags fedora x220 on the thinkpad wikipedia pageWhich one of you did this?
>>100043389Anyone here have experience with selling Thinkpads? I'm thinking of selling an X220 I have and another Librebooted X220. I looked at eBay but the seller fees are crazy. Mercari has better fees but it seems like it's a site exclusively used by crackheads. Is Reddit any good for this?>>100047481Gothic 1 and 2
>>100117753>a 1080p video makes it meltThis. No idea why people just lie about T420's being able to do that well. After like 5 minutes it thermal throttles and lags to hell.>t. Used 10 different *20 series thinkpads since 2019. All of them sucked at 1080p YouTube video as well as saved MP4 files
>>100120586Fake news.
What's a good 1440p display for a t480? Is the difference in power consumption too big?
>>100120986Play a 1080p youtube video and show us your tempShould be easy to btfo the haters right?
Have you guys tried this decal things?One of my older pads is all scratched and I have been looking for a lid replacement for years but no luck.I just want a plain black matte one to make it look less shit.
>>100117753external monitor or laptop?
>>100121133>yfw he has h264ify and you're bamboozled
>>100113562He was probably running a i5 sandybridge or some shit like that. Slap a 35w quad core and it'll be night and day.
>>100121133Burden of proof is on you champ, you're the one making the claim.
>T420 hangs on Thinkpad logo during boot for a couple minutes (has never done this ever)>Press power button, leave it off for a few minutes>Try turning it on again>It boots immediatelyOk...
I had a P52 at my last job 4 years ago and I loved it except for the size and weight. I wanted one for myself but the price was way too much. What is the closest thing to it nowadays?
>>100123242It's just weird gremlins as electronics age. Might have to do with a failing cmos battery or BIOS failing some startup check. If it starts doing it semi-regular I'd at the very least check the cmos battery voltage and if that's fine, reflash your bios.
>>100123451ThinkPad P16 Gen 2
>>100110464Not that anon.Beside the battery, any other reason to not get the T480s, I am eying one on ebay .
>>100043389Good evening chudsFemboy Arch Hyprland X220 user hereHope you are all having a good day
>>100125667this is the reason i never use my thinkpad in public, people would think im an autistic pervert.
Does anyone know where to buy one of those FHD conversion boards for the x230?>>100125667Disgusting hairy legged faggot
>>100125667how are you not ashamed of showing your mental illness so publicly? >>100125904>>100126397its sad really, thinpkads were THE business laptops back in the day, the reason im so attached to them(the older models) is because back in 01 my dad brought a thinkpad from work and i instantly fell in love with the aesthetic of it because i had some blue/white HP before that looked like childrens toy. nowdays the modern thinkpads suck but worse than that they are now used by mentally ill larping faggot retardsin terms of linux, hopefully when Windows 10 gets officially killed there will be a mass exodus of users to linux which will drown out the faggots and groomers, id rather have a flood of normies than them
>>100112680recell your current one yourselfnothing bad with kingsener, buy from aliexpress and ask for refund if it goes bad>>100113562computers dont get slower, you can upgrade it to quad corealso coreboot with no microcode updates and linux kernel compiled without retpoline, mitigations=off if you are really performance autistic, wont give you newer codecs though so always use mpv for videos>>100113907thanks for telling me about this one, absolutely beautiful>>100120529selling locally via non globohomo website is best but hardest depending on geolocation, advertising on forums is second best>>100121315try magic erase with water, always works for menever had to use decal or cover or plastidip, feels like cheap hackyou can get second thinkpad same model and use it as spare parts if you need>>100125667based autist, install x230 motherboard with quad core for more autism>>100126449i bought x230 fhd board locally in eu, but it was from someone who buys them from chinanitrocaster no longer makes them, a.gain still alive, you can find them on aliexpress pretty sure
I have a T14s AMD gen 3 with ryzen 6850u, should I use the AMD adrenalin driver from AMD website or the "AMD kit driver" from the lenovo website? The latter hasn't been updated since october 2023 but I've seen a few mention it's better to use the driver from the lenovo site.
>>100127619if the lenovo driver works then its better to use it.
>>100043389I want a laptop with good battery life ( plus if has exterior battery plus additional interior battery), linux support, good keyboard, good heatsink and lots of ram (min 16, plus if 32 or 64).I don't care about other things. The laptops I found and liked were thinkad t480 and p5X series. But there are no people selling them second hand here. What about these Dell and HP laptops? Any recommendations?
>>100107787>warning message about the fan not workingJust once. But the on and off behavior on the fan has been happening for a while. Finally i can live with the noise, otherwise the cpu runs too slow.
>>100128485I have a pimped out T480 and I can really recommend it desu.If there's none nearby try check if you can order a refurbished one from across the country, or even international.In two years time I spent approx $800 on mine. Including 64GB of RAM, a 2 TB M.2 SSD, a new trackpad (X1E), two brand new batteries (24wh internal + 72wh external, currently lasting 6-8 hrs under heavy load or 12-15 hours when chilling) and a dock for triple-monitor output.If you want the part numbers lmk.
before I spend another two hours scouring google and troubleshooting, has anyone here gotten specifically the W540/541's quadro to work on either bookworm or base arch? Can't seem to figure out which drivers to use
Laptops shouldn't run windows Laptops should only run MacOS or Linux, preferably Arch
>>100129788posted by >>100125667 btw if that matters
looking at my local sellers there are these available at around the same price range>T480 / T480s i5 24gb ram 1tb>x1 carbon g6 i5 16gb ram 256gb>t14 g1 24gb ram 256gbthere are options for changing ram / storage / i7 for a different price, but my question is out of these which i consider for just browsing / email / youtube / lightweight gaming (simple 2d stuff)
>>100130306get the t14 duh
>>100130331t14g1 vs t480 performance is negligible compared to the upgradability of the t480 desu
>>100130379its upgradable enough, the only real "killer feature" you lose is the 2 battery config, but then again the t480 is so old that you cant buy original lenovo batteries for it anyway so you have to use chink housefire shit. the t14 on the other hand is newer so a second hand one will have less mileage, its easier to acquire original parts for, it is more efficient and has better speakers.
Been using an x220 for almost a decade now. Would like something newer with better display, webcam and sound. Is the framework 13 ok? Is there something similar but cheaper than 1200 and new?Im thinking either the framework, that new British company that sells core boot/libreboot laptops or a mba m3>just buy a used think padI’d really like to have something nice and new.Everyone always asks about the brush its for cleaning dust.
>>100129632default proprietary nvidia config through archinstall apparently runs wine/proton/dxvk flawlessly, yet native applications (prime-run) and nvidia-smi still return errors. no clue why but good enough for now i guess... seems to be a quirk specific to the w540, haven't had problems with kepler quadros on elitebooks
dumb question but what should I use to clean my thinkpad?
>>100052395Why are zoomers like this? It's just called typing, not touch typing. If you can't type without looking you're just retarded.
>>100131735Do you feel better after posting this?
>>100130379But ask yourself what are you going to upgrade on the T480 and what that cost is.If they're the same price, the T14 should come with a nicer screen (you should verify) and faster wifi at no additional cost. All you're gaining with the T480 is a bigger SSD and two older batteries to manage.
>>100116155you're probably testes using speedometer V 3.0, just tested my t460 and got 73.3 on speedometer V 2.1
>>100126959Is it even possible to remove the dreaded stickers?
>>100131278Anon, that's an X230.
>>100135927I know. This one sort of was given to me a few months ago. My x220 has issues with the ports so I been using the 230
well guys I do like the smug, lighthearted, carefree feeling of running linux on my T420s despite the overheating and 1 hour battery life and dogshit 1440x900 TN panel and herpes trackpadso I am thinking about getting an X1Carbon used, maybe like 8th gen or somethingmy question for you is, what's the deal with the screens? I would like one of the 2880x1800 ones with nice colors (ideally OLED unless those are $2,000)does the high resolution nuke your battery life? are they bright enough? what exact model am I looking for?
>>100119379People with jobs whom require cell service to complete their duties. Not really for consoomers.>>100125667cute (the laptop, not you)
>>100043389I'm going to take some online college courses and they want me to use some spyware anti-cheat slop (Respondus and Examity) that there's no way I'm running on my main machine. I'm thinking of getting a cheap thinkpad to use just for that purpose, so they're not scanning all my files and fucking up my registry. I haven't tested either program myself, but I'd imagine the absolute highest demand in terms of performance would be about the same level as playing a YouTube video on Chrome while also on a 1-on-1 video call. I see some cheap listings for used T460s on eBay. Would they be up to the task?
>>100137379Anything 6-8th Gen Intel-U (low-power).- 6th Gen was hybrid VP9 decoding (no YT support)- 7th Gen gained VP9 encoding support (which makes YT smoother). Basically as fast as the 6th Gen.- 8th Gen transitioned to quad-core- T460(s), T470(s), T480(s), T490(s)Anything 4-7th Gen Intel-MQ/HQ (quad-core).- They use quite a bit of power- T460p, T470p, W540, W541If you want a cheap clunker then E or L series will do fine.Wouldn't bother with any other slop since it's only a little bit cheaper but also much worse.
>>100112018well, I got it and it werx well enough so far.
>>100043389I just ordered a refurbished Dell Latitude 5590 with 8th gen i5, 32 gb ram and 512 gb nvme for something over $400 in vg condition.
I have the upgrade bug but my X230 just keeps doing (most) everything I need it to do. The chassis is cracked, the Ethernet jack is toast, the keyboard is missing keys, and the fan is starting to rattle, but I can't bring myself to let her go.
I think I'm going to go with a T14, but I can't decide on which gen to get.If I just want to>run a lot of videos >run spreadsheets>do maybe light programming like typescript and some Java>maybe game a little with shit like Terraria or something>shitpost and streamShould I got for gen 2 or gen 3? Or would a gen 1 T14 suffice?
>>100138944The extra vertical space on the gen3 would be really nice for spreadsheet and coding work. When I upgrade it will be when the 16:10 models get cheap enough.You lose some on the keyboard depth, though, vs a gen2. I have a gen2 for work and the keyboard is perfectly serviceable and snappy enough to appreciate but not as good as my X230, which is not as good as my T60. I don't know if the gen3 is actually significantly worse or it's just power bottom autist reviewers that pretend they can feel 3 tenths of a millimeter difference. If the actuation force is as much or more it's probably ok.Full disclosure: in non-mobile serious work mode (docked) I bottom out keys on a Model M so take my gorilla opinion with a grain of salt.
>>100139226Thanks for the break down. Sounds like I can make do with a gen2 for now. Maybe I'll consider an upgrade when my wallet is a little richer
>>100109574>My thinkpad is dead in an hour, two if I stay off youtube.mine lasts 5-7 hours depending on what I do, but I use W10 with optimizations, it's easy
>>100119576quad core is the way to go with sandy bridge or newerdual-core i5 or i7 is okay with Haswell or newer, just don't go under 2.5Ghz CPUs
Have been thinking of buying the new thinkpad x1 2 in 1 gen 9. as usual these things have a hugely overinflated base price but I can get education discount so that's not so bad.bigger issue is that for some reason lenovo only puts the better intel H CPUs in the carbons, the 2 in 1 line is stuck with the U CPUs. is it likely they'll ship a stronger version in the future (or, better, an AMD version)?
whats a good price for a T60?
>>1001404200 dollars/euros/shekels/rubles
>>100126959The 2570p also has coreboot/libreboot support. I may get one to replace my t440p because I only used it for the coreboot support, easy hardware accessibility and dvd drive but this has all of it in a smaller package.
On my Thinkpad T420, Sometimes when power switch from battery to AC, the system freeze and if there's audio playing it would replay the last second of audio, while the caps lock LED start blinking.Rebooting solve the issue.It's infrequent so I can't check what cause it.Is the mobo dying? Ram issue?How do I check the kernel panic logs?
hmm i could sell my m4400 w/dock for a bit of cash, but I'll likely get screwed between shitty ebay buyers, fees, and shipping, so might as well just recycle it. might keep the power adapter though since somehow dell still uses the same plug.
>>100141714saaaar
>>100131278>>100136299>Im thinking either the framework, that new British company that sells core boot/libreboot laptops or a mba m3framework doesnt support libreboot, it uses alot of binary blobs and cheap garbage overall>Been using an x220 for almost a decade now10% of its lifetimedont fall for new computer meme. you already have one just upgrade its internals to save>Would like something newer with better display, webcam and soundyou can install fhd/2k screen, install speakers from iphone/macbook and any better webcamyou have thinkpad thats fully accessible and instead of upgrading it you think about replacing it, shame!>>100140420i buy them often for $15>>1001413892570p also supports quad cores same as in t430, currently im only skeptical about its build quality, i have no experience with dell and i looked at local listings and they all looked like shit so ill investigate further first
>work can buy me a new computer>sweet I'll get an overpriced modern thinkpad>it'll compile shit super fast for me and stuff!>hear that it has good linux support too so no messing around with garbage drivers>go for it, it finally arrives>everything as expected>works great, even wifi drivers work out of the box>fast AMD CPU>no issues on linux>a bit higher battery drain than normal when sleeping...>do some research>every fucking modern laptop is phasing out support for sleep>they're replacing it with some kinda idle standby that doesn't turn anything off at all>your computer is basically on at all times>my battery drains overnight if not plugged in>on some models there are workarounds for forcing it enabled anyway>dump, edit and recompile my acpi DSDT (I didn't even know what that was until today) to try to enable it>shows up as supported now but there is no way to wake the computer from the sleep state, so it basically doesn't actually work properly>the epic modern fast laptop literally doesn't support sleep>this is common across all modern laptops>this is the futureWHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKGuess you're not supposed to carry laptops around anymore? Or you're expected to just shut them down every time you're going anywhere and boot them back up when you arrive?Apparently having """"sleep"""" battery life be almost the same as awake idle battery life is normal now. It's what consumers want, and it's what's being sold.And not ONE review complained about this when I was researching which laptop to get. NOWHERE was there any warning that "oh by the way, it also doesn't support proper sleep, like most modern laptops".What the fuck.
>>100143017Sleep is obsolete now that we have ssds. Just hibernate.
whats wrong with my laptop?
>>100143087yeah just kill your ssd brah
>>100143087>yeah let me just allocate a 64GB swap partition>let me just take 10-5 seconds to wake up every timeTen seconds is a very impressive boot time, but it's completely unacceptable for waking up from sleep, which should take <0.5 secondsAnd of course >>100143245
>>100043389T14s, Snapdragon Editionhttps://wccftech.com/lenovo-qualcomm-snapdragon-x-elite-cpus-laptops-pictured-debut-20th-april
>>100110464why do you say not to buy a t480s? ive been having my eye on this one and am thinking about getting it
>>100144512because you're a faggot
>>100074288My p50 has two nvme’s and a 2,5 inch hdd bay, but an earlier w540/541 might have them too
>>100142995>just spend 200 upgrading your 15 year old thinkpad
>>100143017I literally never have used sleep mode. I always turn the computer off. Do people actually use sleep, stand by and hibernate??
>>100145338200 in upgrades is better than new computer for 12003615qe in x230 is over twice as fast as the random i5 you checked4 cores is more than enough for compiling big projects, dont know why you would need better cpu in a laptopCONSOOM AND LANDFILL
>>100145338also forgot to mention, fucking phonefag kys
>>100145137>>100146010samefag go back to /pol/ you tranny
>>100145985posted by >>100125667btw if that matters
>>100145388So when you're going somewhere and you put the laptop in the backpack for 30 minutes to an hour, you do a full shutdown every time?
>>100146322yes. it helps to have a fast booting system
>>100146414Mine boots pretty fast but I don't see the point of unlocking my hard drive encryption, logging in, and reopening all my programs every single time.I could script a "session" that automatically opens all the programs I usually use but even that would just extend the effective boot times.
>>100146472if thats your flow then go with it. if i needed such speed id switch to a tablet or use my phone.i treat my laptop as a laptop i dont expect it to be an appliance like a tablet
>>100146553But that's the thing, I treat my laptop as a laptop, it's neither a desktop nor a tablet.I read some microsoft propaganda about S0 suspend and it's literally them trying to make them more tablet-like by enabling "instant resume" - in practice meaning you don't actually suspend. THAT's what treating it as a tablet means. And it's precisely what I want to avoid.
>>100145985what is this mental illness called
>>100145985Why shouldnt I get a brand new machine if I want to?>>100146010you should learn how to suck eggs
Microcenter has Elitebook 845 G8 for 350 brand new, has the nipple (though it kinda sucks) and upgradable ram. Far better option than any ThinkPad rec thrown around in this thread
>>100146824not bad, although elitebooks tend to come with panels that are somehow even worse than what lenovo uses.
>>100144459>Soldered RAMInstantly dropped, and into the garbage bin it goes where it truly belongs.
anyone here have an x280 and notice the screen is total horseshit outside or in any light? the soldered ram sucks ass but it just works, dunno if it just fucked or i gotta find an upgrade for it, its 30 pin eDP after all.
fuck me i snapped my x1 carbon heatsink header in half unplugging it for a repaste now it isn't detected anymore
>>100147583Can you order a replacement?
>>100145985>>100146010Can't believe I have to explain this, but It's called buying used nigga. Therein lies the best value. Most things bought new are rooking, like how cars rolling out of a dealership lose most their value immediately. The stock i5 in the X230 is undeniably slow. The quad core processor you mentioned is not stock and has to be bought from China soldered to a motherboard. I bought a T480 for about $100 and it's basically as fast as that quad-core Ivy Bridge while consuming (and creating) much less heat (J). Plus, it has codec capabilities and other cache improvements.You have brand-identity autism.>>100146472Same, I spend like 5 seconds at boot entering my passphrase
>>100149051I did, just bums me out since I got such a good deal on the laptop
>>100121498I think h264 on browsers is currently broken with older cpus.At least ive never have had it working properly recently
>>100145985newegg shill
How are current Thinkpads compared to old guard (2007-2012), at least displays should be back 16:10 but RAM is soldered and batteries are non-standard?
What's the best price performance AMD APU I can get in a thinkpad for 8th gen gaming at 60 fps 720p, low settings?
>>100150530Everybody seems to be waiting for the T14 gen5 with bated breath. Unsoldered RAM you can swap daily until your heart's content (soldered wifi chip tho, lol). Batteries are an odd one, I don't know what kind of interchangeability they have between different models (probably none and they're all one-offs) but suffice to say the days of hotswap externals are long behind us and seem unlikely to return.
>>100110608>all modern laptops use 50whokay? and? they used to offer extended 90wh batteries on their 12" modelsnow, the only way to get a 90wh battery is to get a 16" laptop
Why is it that most of the time this general dies in ~130 replies but every once in a while it gets way more traction than normal
T520 for sale for 145 shekels, worth?I'm sorry for the retarded question, I have been out of the thinkpad game for a long time and just found my X220 dead right as I needed it.
>>100150847many general threads across the sight see drops in activity are only kept alive by some terminally online autist or anitherit's as if we shouldn't have so many 24/7 general threads, huh? but retards fought the mods over it and won, so this is the fittingly retarded-looking result of everyone's faggotry
>>100150709i think even t14g3 has a different battery compared to the previous gen, holding me off from getting them since finding batteries in the future would be a pain in the ass
>>100150847For my part, I keep catching 3 day bans.
>>100114028Anyone that can help me in my predicament?I hate that fucking grease mark and still pissy i only get 4 hours of battery life reading pdfs.
>>1001526014-5 hours from a 57Wh battery is about expected. You can try turning Windows to power saving mode instead of performance/balanced mode.
>>100151944SureBut see if you can find a x230
I just used chatgpt to help me write a batch script I bound to the thinkvantage key to switch between docked and undocked monitor configurations.
>>100143160Have you tried powering it off and back on again?
I just learned that there are mods to install a 2K screen on the T/W520 and 530. Has anyone done them? My T520 has a FHD screen, viewing angles were always a weak point in my opinion, because the screens weren't actual IPS.I've read horror stories from rather flimsy setups for T420's with the modded 2k screen. I don't know if that's improved since then, or just how complex and reliable the adapters/converters are.
>>100152776>>100151944no, thats fucking retarded. a t480 costs like 20 dollars more and is a million times more usable. a t520 is worth 50 bux max, dont overpay for old e-waste.the people on this general are braindead, second hand thinkpads used to be recommended for the good value, now it has turned into a discord tranny cult that upsells garbage as boutique.
>>100154703Maybe thats the cost in their country you dumb fuck, not everyone has amerimutt prices
>>100154755there isnt a single country on the planet where a t520 is worth that much.
>>100154784used market prices are that fucked in my country where instead of a 6y+ thinkpad i can pay 4-5x of their price to get a brand new t14g4 with 3y warranty
>>100149440>The quad core processor you mentioned is not stockno shit>and has to be bought from China soldered to a motherboardgo to a nearby repair shop and ask for bga rework, or if you have access to workshop with expensive tools do it yourself>I bought a T480 for about $100 and it's basically as fast as that quad-core Ivy Bridge while consuming (and creating) much less heat (J). Plus, it has codec capabilities and other cache improvements.intel bootguard is not an improvement>You have brand-identity autism.i only care about coreboot and me_cleaner support, buying another computer just to throw those away is stupidand no, newer gen coreboot with 10mb of binary blobs is not finefree software is not a brand btw, corpo shillalso both frameshit and macshit are horribly designed>>100146779you already have a computer, just upgrade it if you want higher numbers, same as you would do with a desktop>if i wantstop looking at a computer screen for 3 days and your consoom urge will disappearits dumb decision no matter what you want>>100146227>>100146197>>100150178no discussion, low quality posts, bots scared of old computerDONT FALL FOR THE NEW CPU MEMEstage0 bootstrapmitigations=offnoatimelibre kernel
>>100154360the 2k display is thinner than stock display, you glue something to lid to compensateor atleast thats the case with x230
So what is the current recommended modern thinkpad? If I want good balance between perf and battery? GPU not important
>>100156407So you're a foss tranny. That's great, everyone needs a hobby, but trying to gaslight clueless anons into thinking spending hundreds of dollars on upgrading a 10+ years old laptop is anything but a waste of money doesn't actually convince people of your cause.
>>100156945faster cpus wont matter if you use software that only uses single coreremember, you are nothing but a hylic and you are here forever!
>>100156629define modern
People that keep recommending X220/T420 laptops need to be shotDogshit battery and screen
>>100157145>Dogshit battery and screenrecell it and use powertopdo you only watch jewtube on your computer that you complain about the display?
>>100157181Or just buy a thinkpad made in the past two yearsOnly NEETs use these old shitbricks
>>100157221sounds like you dont know how to recell a batteryhaving no basic skills sucks i know
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>>100150847Looks like we made it this time.
>>100152601use xfce ubuntu distro instead of windows. 700mb ram on idle compared to 3gb on windows