Buy a thinkpad x230 and install heads. Write protect the flash chip. Put nail polish on the screws and take high resolution pictures to ensure signs of tampering. Do NOT use a HDD or SSD. They have DMA so a malicious firmware could do a lot of damage, use of USB is preferred since they do not have DMA. Completely remove the microphone, sound card, webcam and the WWAN card from the laptop. Remove the fan to prevent binary acoustic data transmission. Replace the default wifi card with a supported atheros card. Disable wifi when not in use, preferably by physically removing the card. Make your own independent Linux distro from scratch. Most Linux distros value convenience over security and will thus never have good security. Your only option is to make your own. Use musl instead of glibc, Libressl instead of openssl, sinit instead of systemd, oksh instead of bash, toybox instead of gnu coreutils to reduce attack surface. Enable as little kernel modules as possible. Use a hardened memory allocator. Apply strong SELinux and sandboxing policies. Restrict the root account heavily to make sure it never gets compromised. Disable JavaScript and CSS in your browser. Block all FAGMAN domains in your hosts file. Monitor all network requests. Do not use a phone. Never speak near anyone who owns a phone, they are always listening. Never use any non-corebooted technology made after 2006. Never leave your devices unattended. Tape triple layer aluminum foil all around your room as tempest shielding. Type really quietly as defense against audio keylogging. Use ecc ram to minimize rowhammer and rambleed. Encrypt everything multiple times with various different encryption implementations. Compile everything from source. Use hardened compilation flags. Always read through the source before installing something if possible. Only use the internet when absolutely necessary.

>>100157900
>Type really quietly as defense against audio keylogging.
classic

>>100157974
>not knowing they bounce an infrared laser off a flat surface anywhere near your laptop to steal your encryption keys by listening to your cpu fan or your keystrokes

>>100157230
not that anon but redpill me on recelling
does this let me just buy chink 18650s and get brand new capacity for cheap?

x230 btw (with flashed bios to remove battery checks)

Is the TrackPoint in the T480 much worse than in a T420 keyboard? I want the classic keyboard for typing.
Should I get a T430 or a modded X230 planar with a quad-core CPU for best speed?

>>100158399
just buy cells that were used originally and everything will be fine, like brand new
you just need spot welder and soldering iron, you can also "recell" the cmos battery with spot welder by replacing the coin battery and replacing the isolation
after you learn how to do this your computer will live forever
never throw away oem batteries even if they are dead / low capcity, you can reuse their casings and recell

>>100158639
modded x230 is best, i have quad core x230 with japan keyboard and nothing will ever beat it
t430 if you want cdrom i guess
>>100158717
also forgot to add:
the casings are glued shut, which is slightly annoying
you will have to replace the glue aswell
the glue is so bumping the battery wont cause worst case explosion

>>100157900
isn't it easier to just stop watching cp?

>>100159053
right, projecting pedos like (you) dont have enough intellect to go through this
back to ddit

>>100159053
>caring about privacy makes you a pedo
nice association fallacy

Hey /tpg/entlemen,

So I'm having a X260 and I think I overwork it, I have no idea of Intel's CPU suffix when buying it, and the X260 is having U, while I see something like T470P is HQ.

Could gentlemen here recommend me which model is good for kind of workstation but still kind of wise in power consumption?

Thank you /tpg/entlemen

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I'm debating whether to use my old StinkPad L420 as a NAS, or to buy a relative new fanless chnk mini PC. The current power cable is frayed, so I would have to buy another. £25. But the second issue is the placement. The ThinkPad going to go on a small cute furniture shelf, a little wooden square rack, and the power supply is just going to hang off the side. With right angled connectors it's fine, but this power cable isn't at a right angle, it's shoots straight outwards. That's going to be stressful on it. Can I do anything to reinforce it and extend its longevity? Wrap lots of heavy black tape around it? It'll be stressful on the actual socket of the laptop itself too I suppose, can't do anything about that, but the actual cable, where it meets the chunky plastic connector final bit, that's where the plastic/rubber sheath has opened up on my current one, after 12 years of wear and tear.

>>100160928
Why not wrap tape around the power supply and something else (the side of the shelf? the underside of the shelf?) so the power connector and cable don't get any stress at all

>>100158639
I have both the T480 and T420. T420 seems a bit bigger due to the keyboard being taller, but I don't really notice a different in use.

>>100161038
yeah maybe i'll do that. it will still be hanging off but it'll be dragged downwards by only a little bit of the cable weight, just a few inches worth, rather than the weight of the whole cable. just enough loose to it's not bent awkwardly. then tape the rest of the cable to the shelf leg/corner so that tape joint bears the weight of most of the length of the cable. thanks bro :)

currently setting up a dual boot windows/linux on my T480s. Never done this before but I've read horror stories here about people defaulting to grub on boot first to pick between windows or linux on startup only to eventually have windows murder grub and turn the linux drive into a cadaver. Am I right in thinking I will avoid issues like that by using separate drives and just using the bios boot selector to select a drive?

i accidentally got semen on top of my thinkpad, how do I clean it? isopropyl alcohol?

>>100160928
>StinkPad
My ThinkPad has no odor. If yours does, then maybe that reflects your own poor personal hygiene choices.

>>100161903
Install Windows first, use Ubuntu Live CD to shrink the Windows partition(s) to make room for Ubuntu, then install Ubuntu.
After that, ask >>>/g/fwt/ for instructions to use the Windows boot loader to select between Windows and Ubuntu at the startup (yes, this is possible).

I fell for le Thinkpad meme ca. 2018 and have been using an X220 I got then ever since, but it's had various issues and is sort of falling apart. Should I get another X220 or is there a better choice at this rate?

>>100164660
State your use case, current and projected. As well as any gripes you have about your current x220.

>>100164436
So you can use the windows boot loader instead of grub? Never heard of anyone doing that before but I'll give it a shot I guess.

>>100165433
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyBCD

>>100157887
Still can't fix HDD initilization error 1 on my T60. I'll be able to try another hard drive in it once I get home to see what part is fucked, but I just can't get over the fact that it worked perfectly and then just stopped.

Also what's the difference between initilization error 1 and 2?

I just wanna fix this man.

>>100159053
NEVER!

thinkbump

Is the t480 still the king of cheap used laptops?

>>100168415
nope, that would be the t430

>>100157900
Thankfully I listen to Merzbow at high volume all the time

My dell latitude will be here sometime today.

>>100168415
yeah. disregard the t430 retard, its unusable ewaste that lasts 30 minutes on a brand new battery and melts down if you attempt to watch a youtube video.

I fly somewhere almost every weekend. I'm looking for a Thinkpad that is light and has long battery. Performance is not important because I'm only using it to browse the Internet. What should I get?

>>100171320
Why even get a Lenovo, just get a surface tablet or something with an ARM chip at that point

anyone got tips to fix bluetooth not working on a t400? its detecting pc & tvs but not mice & keyboard & stuff like that

>>100171320
What the other anon said. Old thinkpads are not very powerful, cheap, but also not super efficient and bulkier than they need to be. Newer thinkpads are much more powerful, range from cheap-ish to expensive the newer you go, and possibly more efficient but still more powerful than you need, therefore probably more battery hungry and bulky than you'd really need.
An ARM tablet with a keyboard case will be more power-efficient, light and portable than almost any laptop.

>>100171320
if you lust have a thonlpad, wait for the snapdragon t14s. but like the other anons said just get a tablet of browsing is all you need to do.

>>100170363
What do you suggest?

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>>100173062
>Is the t480 still the king of cheap used laptops?
>yeah.
>What do you suggest?

>>100173062
Don't listen to the FUD. My T430 gets a solid 8 hours on battery under moderate conditions.

>>100173227
ie. using vim with the backlight turned to 0%.

>>100173183
I misread. My apologies.

>>100173341
I take it you neabt to post that to abyone sugtesting a t430 in this day and age? As you can see from >>100125667 its trannies who have an irrational attachment to old useless shit, typically coupled with a troonix install.

>>100170284
Which one did you buy and for how much?

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is there a modern laptop without a garbage flat keyboard? How is it possible that a objectively better keyboard design simply vanished overnight because people think the flat keyboards look more "sleek"?

>>100175286
>objectively
you use that word but you don't know what it means.

>>100175629
Yes I do, you idiot. Objectively means its has an Objective of being useful. While flat keyboards have an Objective of being "sleek" and not useful.

300 dollars on ebay for used P52
Yay or nay?

>>100175659
there is nothing objective about your personal preferences. the word you're looking for is "subjective".

>>100175286
get a gamer laptop with a mechanical kb.

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>>100175924
>the only way to have a decent laptop experience in 2024 is to buy an overpriced gaming laptop that looks beyond retarded
Is this really the only way?

>>100176311
even the gaudiest gaymer rgb laptop looks less autistic to normies than an old thinkpad so w/e

>>100175878
nyay

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>>100176836
Normies are retarded because old thinkpad design is objectively beautiful and understated.

>>100177187
Normies would probably think I'm an engineer or a businessman

>>100177202
more like a pedophile

>>100177546
Yeah, but like a cool rich businessman pedophile like Jeffrey Epstein, not a looser discord groomer with RGB gaymer laptop.

>>100164840
I am a university student—my needs are pretty simple, I do a lot in the web browser but also just want a functioning GNU/Linux OS (my setup is fairly lightweight). I would like a general long-lasting device. I have a desktop computer which is much more powerful but I wonder if it would be good or worthwhile to use the Thinkpad only.

My device has various cracks and things physically falling apart in the chassis. It will also unexpectedly shutdown often when the device is closed and transported. Also, things that seem to have always been the case with this device are a stuttering touchpoint and a dim and fairly small display.

I do enjoy the keyboard, the availability of a touchpoint, the size/weight, and the theoretical durability. I also enjoy that I can coreboot, but I suppose it isn't a requirement for me. Likewise, I don't use many of them but I like having many hardware ports available.

I'm thinking about getting a thinkpad lads. They're pretty cheap in the pawn show near me. Not one of the 15 year old models you turbo autists swear are the best but a more modern one.

>>100178315
tldr just get a t480

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>>100173183
>>What do you suggest?
Please refer to this diagram.

>>100179029
Do it, customize it, optimize it, enjoy it

>>100171644
what OS?

>>100163542
lysol wipe

>>100178315
Based on that, I'd recommend a T440p or T470/T480. Any of those will be fine. Look at you budget, what's available, and don't neglect the screen specs. You will hate yourself if you get a TN 768p screen.

You might look at the X380/X390 as well. It's a happy 13.3" medium between the 12.5" X220 and a 14" T series.

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Years of having an actual job have convinced me that NEETs were right about laptops.

FUCK ULTRABOOKS. I DO NOT CARE HOW THIN IT IS, I AM NOT A GODDAMN WOMAN.

>>100163542
Leave it alone. You're creating art as it's passed from owner to owner. You didn't clean off the free cum from the last guy, right?

...right?

Wow, I see someone brought up "recelling" a laptop battery last thread.
I looked it up and found what it is. I had no idea this was even possible, bravo. But is this really cost effective? I paid $33 for my T540p's battery last year, brand new aftermarket thing that its seller offered with a lengthy warranty. Still, for any models whose batteries are unobtainium or severely overpriced, I can see it making sense now that I think about it.

One thing I did do was "recell" the system battery in my T540p (CR2032 type). I also did this to a few Dell Latitudes I bought and resold (they take batteries with wire leads and heatshrink wrapping, all were CR2032s). Real easy and convenient, but tape it up very tight if you try it yourself. I used 5 layers tape total.
Nearly all Thinkpads use CR2032 batteries with wires attached, from what I can tell going by pictures.
System batteries are cheap, if I recall correctly, but even cheaper are buying a full pack of CR2032s off Amazon. I have some lying around, may as well use them. The scale that I use to measure the weight of stuff I sell online also takes a CR2032. N64 game cartridges also take that battery type.

Just ordered an X230 and I'm gonna try my hand at reballing an i7-3612QE to it, good thing china sells everything from tools to stencils and solder balls.

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>>100181709
If I ever get a normie telling me that x laptop is better because it is feather-light, I'll tell 'em, "Son, I'm old, not emasculated, 5-lbs. machine cannot tire me out." All the less so in my backpack/briefcase.

>>100157887
Just got my Dell Latitude 5590 today. Pristine condition. Snappy. Very happy with it.

>>100170284
It was a 5590 from AAA on Ebay choose your own specs. 8th gen 8350U with win 11 Home, 32 gb ram, 512 nvme drive. 450 plus tax.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/334703417715?itmmeta=01HW327JPEHPNDD11TDX6MNP67&hash=item4dede0d973:g:~WAAAOSwQ75mIC8-&var=543858318696

>>100173772
See >>100182743

>>100182743
>>100182814
In your opinion, what does this offer that's better than the thinkpad equivalent?

>>100181129
based

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>>100182743
>450 dollars for a i5 8350u laptop

>>100181129
contrarianism is not a substitute for a personality.

I need to maximize battery life on my T480. Need it to last almost a day without charging. So far in my research I found out that the InnoLux N140HCG-GQ2 screen would draw the least power. As far as the battery I'm having a hard time finding a genuine 61++ one. Can you guys please give me a link to one thats not a knockoff, or at the very least a comparable one to the original. Also what other upgrades can I do to further increase the battery life?

>>100181824
Some with EE skills think (correctly) they can do better recelling a battery with premium cells than rando chinks using used/inferior cells in new 3rd party batteries. It's a significant amount of work and not for everyone. I'm handy but I wouldn't consider it. I'll take what I get with cheapo chink replacements every few years.

>>100182983
i have never used a thinkpad. The laptop looks and feels brand new. It is fast and came with a new battery and charger. i am happy with it. Came with a year warrantee.

>>100184769
ZZZZZZZD~~~~

>>100185017
obviously undervolt it. then get a low power ssd, they can surprisingly help a lot. p31 gold is a popular one. limit max cpu speed to 99% to stop the laptop from needlessly boosting. if you watch youtube, use h264ify. disable everything you dont regularly use in bios - bluetooth, usb ports, webcam, fingerprint, ethernet etc. if you use windows, use edge as your web browser and set it to efficiency mode.

>>100185312
oh and also limit the screen refresh to 48hz (or less if you're comfortable with that). if you cant do it directly from display settings you can use CRU to create a custpm resolution.

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I just got a t490 at a pawn shop for $150. I want to replace the battery but I'm worried all the batteries on Amazon are just going to be 50% copper weights and empty space (or secretly used internals with a fresh outer wrapping), any tips on finding a proper one?

>>100186519
just buy directly from lenovos spare part site

>>100186763
For some reason I assumed they wouldn't have 5 year old parts

>>100186814
t490 uses the same chassis as t14 gens 1 and 2 so most of the parts are actually just 3 years old

can anyone find me the exact specs of 21CCS7JV02. it's not on lenovo's website and google has no results for it

>>100187175
You should try Perplexity.AI instead of Google.

>>100185017
What OS?

>>100190395
OpenBSD

>>100191675
Bad move

>>100186519
that vid is badass
t. restaurant cook

>>100184769
too steep tro be a laughing matyer, simply worrying, but it's not my problem

are any of the new thinkpads worth it? like t14g4/5 or slightly older?

>>100192500
theyre okay

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Which laptop should I buy if I had a ThinkPad T460s and loved it? I would buy that but not good idea to buy dual core in 2024. Onlyl requirement would be to be light, have magnesium chassis, and ok specs

considering t480s, x1c 6th gen, t14 g1 etc... not sure, I guess it doesnt matter really.

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I definitely enjoy the key bed on this old thing a lot, but getting acquainted with Core2duo isn't. Shitty processor, even XP lags on this at times, geez. It will run Win10 easily, but can get laggy(-er) on occasion. After this, it's all flimsy chiclet keys or Thinkpad keys, apparently? At least my T540p is nice and quick.

>>100191904
Why?

>>100194666
It has exceptionally bad power management and Theres very little you can do do optimize it

My legion 5 broke after 3 years so decided to upgrade my t470 with it's parts.
T470 with 16gb ram, nvme using caddy and windows 11. Runs like butter. Why did I ever think it wouldn't be enough.

>>100181824
It is the only way to get new cells in a battery for older models, cost be damned.

>>100181833
Is there a single grimoire with instructions to cast this spell?

>>100157887
ive had my t440p for many years and have put it through its paces and its kinda on its last leg. i hate change because im autistic so i plan to just buy another t440p and hard drive swap. the only issue is i wanna keep my stickers on my laptop but im afraid of peeling them and trying to move them (some of them have been there for years and i dont wanna crumple them in the process either and thats if theyll even stick back to the new one) so my question is how hard is it to just surgery the back of the lid onto another one, and no i dont wanna just do a full swap of the lid because the screens a bit dented on my current and id like to have a non-dented one again. also yes this is autistic i dont care lol

>>100195064
Is it possible to custom print copies of your original stickers?

>>100195127
i dunno, i dont have the stuff to do that myself unless theres a service that can do it for you, still id prefer the original stickers out of sentimentality. i just cant find anything about replacing that specific part of the lid

>t14g4
>AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 5,10 GHz
>32GB RAM
>OLED HDR 4K
ooh damn, it's powerful but how is the build quality + feel? currently still using a t420s with a modded 1080p panel

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>>100157887
i have a budget of 200$. do you guys buy these from ebay? all of these are missing parts and shit, i just wanna buy the fucking thing and have it come with everything working out of the box.

>>100194865
Based Frankenstein

I just bought a Grade A T480

What upgrades should I do first?

Which ones are time sensitive, like "oh they aren't making X anymore so you better get a few now before they are price hiked"

I want to get a skin for it to protect it, are there any things I should do to the case and feet beforehand besides Magic Erase it?

Mine came with a skin on the top, hopefully it isn't hiding anything...

>>100198936
When upgrading your refurbished Lenovo ThinkPad T480, here are some recommendations:

## RAM Upgrade
One of the first upgrades to consider is increasing the RAM. The T480 supports up to 32GB of DDR4 RAM. More RAM will allow for better multitasking performance.[1]

## Storage Upgrade
Upgrading to a faster SSD will significantly improve overall system responsiveness. The T480 supports M.2 NVMe SSDs which offer much faster read/write speeds compared to SATA SSDs.[1]

## Display Upgrade
The T480 can be upgraded to a 2K (2560x1440) IPS panel which offers significantly better image quality over the stock 1080p panel. However, these 2K panels are becoming harder to find as the T480 ages, so you may want to secure one soon before prices rise.[4]

## Bottom Case Feet
The rubber feet on the bottom case can degrade over time. Consider replacing them with new ones to protect the chassis and improve grip.[5] Clean the bottom case thoroughly before applying new feet.

## Skin/Wrap
For protection, you can apply a vinyl skin or wrap to the lid and base. Make sure to thoroughly clean the surfaces first to ensure proper adhesion. Inspect the existing skin for any signs of damage before applying a new one.[5]

The hardware maintenance manual provides detailed instructions for all upgrades and replacements.[1] Ensure you have the proper tools and follow ESD safety precautions when working inside the laptop.

Citations:
[1] https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t480_hmm_en.pdf
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiOOIy3Y_8U
[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0X3m0rs8EE
[4] https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/1bijmz1/t480_upgrades_incl_2k_panel_upgrade/
[5] https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Bottom-Rubber-Compatible-Thinkpad/dp/B0BMQF3936

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>>100199042

Surely this isn't an AI response.

do all of the x380 laptops use a slimtip charger?

>>100193264
T14g2. Virtually same keyboard as T460s, roughly the same size, much better specs.
T14g1 is also an option if you're cheap, but wouldn't go lower than that, too old for a main machine.
T14g3+ is fucked wouldn't get it,

>>100199175
unironically more helpful than 99% of the posts in this thread

>>100199175
babies asking to be spoonfed deserve nothing more

>>100157887
Any recommendations for a thinkpad? I'd be running Debian, would prefer it to be as a close to a modern m1 macbook air as possible. Mostly concerned about battery life, repairability, 1080p screen

>>100199261
To add to this buy the amd versions if possible. This is the time where amd laptop CPUs became better than Intel, ryzen 4000 and up

>>100199635
>give me a thinkpad thats as close to macbook as possible
just get the macbook?

>>100199763
Wanna swap to native linux, already have the macbook just seeing options. Seems there are no really good ARM laptops with linux compatibility (so bad x86_64 battery life/size with fans)

>>100181824
>One thing I did do was "recell" the system battery in my T540p (CR2032 type). I also did this to a few Dell Latitudes I bought and resold (they take batteries with wire leads and heatshrink wrapping, all were CR2032s). Real easy and convenient, but tape it up very tight if you try it yourself. I used 5 layers tape total.
I was thinking of doing this for my almost 15 year old X220 with the original CMOS battery. I don't think you need to tape it up "very tight" if you use kapton tape, that stuff is ultra sticky even with a single layer, and immune to high temps.

Should I wait until my computer starts throwing errors or go ahead and do it already? X220 is from 2011 or so, I bought mine in 2013.

>>100199777
form factor wise, x1 carbon / x13?

>>100181833
>>100194938

Can someone explain this nonsense to a simple T480 owner?

Am I hearing that it is in fact possible for some enthusiasts to pull off a processor upgrade???

>>100199904
Not him but what is there to understand? The x230 chipset is compatible 3612qe, it would be a straight forward drop-in replacement if the cpu was socketed, it's not so he only needs to desolder the old one and solder the new one through reballing.

I have heard mixed reviews about cheap reballing/hot-air stations from Aliexpress thoughever.

Also no idea about the thermals, declared tdp is just an estimation, with turboboost and max igpu usage a 35w tdp processor may well pull about 55w for a few seconds before throttling itself.

>>100199941

I've just never heard of anyone going through the trouble to upgrade a soldered on processor.

But then again, I live under a rock and never consumed an Intel CPU more powerful than integrated ones.

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>>100199980
I'm the retard with the reballing pipedream.
Honestly, I'm just gonna do it for shits n giggles and to see if I can, just because I can.
I've always wanted to try reballing chips, and this seems like a worthy project.

>>100201735
so you know nothing about reballing? kek, justfuckmyshitup

>>100199899
X13 all the way

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oh yeah, it's so easy to get a cheap thinkpad!

i'm on ebay and there's nothing but broken or overpriced garbage, you niggers are trippin'. i have a 200$ budget and i can't even buy one of the vintage ibm ones because they're all broken or overpriced, what's with the hype on this garbage.

>>100202181
What's the worst that can happen? I blow up an X230 motherboard.

K, I'll write a review of the business laptop I've been using for the last 5 months. It's Fujitsu S938. Its most direct competitor would probably be Thinkpad X390, I think. Mine came with Core i7-8650U and 24GB of RAM.

Let's start with the bad: the CPU is limited to 15W no matter what I do. I tried setting the TDP higher, but that's just gonna make the CPU compensate for it by lowering its power consumption more in the future. For example, if I set it to 20W it's gonna jump between 10W and 20W to maintain the 15W average overall. And there's really little point setting it to a higher TDPs in the first place, because the cooling system is small and silent, but pretty bad at actually dissipating heat. The CPU can easily reach 90-95C on warm days. And that's after I changed the thermal paste recently. Undervolting works well though and is a good way to raise performance. I'm running mine permanently undervolted by -100mV on CPU and CPU cache.

The keyboard is pretty good and the layout is very similar to modern Thinkpad keyboards (not the classic ones though). The touchpad sucks though. This is the first touchpad I've come across in a laptop from 2018 that works equally bad in Windows and in Linux. Touchpads in relatively modern machines like that usually work well in Windows at the very least. Not here though. Scrolling with two fingers is a chore, palm rejection leaves a lot to be desired, taps with three fingers are an impossibility. So it's better to just turn off taps altogether and use it with its physical left and right mouse buttons in the "classic" (shitty) way. It works, but you really want a Bluetooth mouse if you plan to use your cursor a lot.

(1/2)

>>100205636
This laptop is kinda unique in that it has a lot of features. Every unit comes with a DVD drive (something already almost unheard off in 13" portables in 2018). Mine also came with an LTE WWAN modem, which is actually pretty fast. I get 40Mbps download and 20Mbps upload which, believe it or not, is actually pretty good here in Europe in the specific place I live in. The battery is externally-removable, but it uses a kind of a funny mechanism where the battery is not held by its own shell but rather by a plastic cover put on top of it. Its capacity is also pretty large: 76Wh (mine is a bit degraded and only holds 68Wh). Battery lifetimes are quite good (6-7h) and the laptop consumes minimal amounts of energy idling with 100% brightness (7-9W).

Speaking of which, my unit came with a 1080p IPS display, which is nothing to write home about but gets the job done. The build quality is good as well. The palmrest part of the bottom chassis is metal and I'm pretty sure the upper chassis has metal underneath as well, it gets pretty cold to the touch. Other than that it's plastic, but pretty nice plastic. Overall I'm pretty pleased with it because it cost significantly less than a T480 or X390 with less features and worse specs would. I only paid 175 EUR for mine.

(2/2)

>>100205636
>>100205646
Oh, one last thing I should mention: port selection.
It has USB-C charging support (in addtion to a tradtional barrel plug), a full-size SD-card slot, HDMI, VGA, RJ-45, 3.5mm audio jack, 2 USB-A ports, SmartCard reader (which is useless to me) and a docking station connector at the bottom. What more could you possibly want?

>>100205646
>>100205636
nice

Are there any laptops with a thunderbolt port and a removable battery? If possible, without a dedicated gpu and cringe gayming rbg lights

>>100204911
They were definitely cheaper last year and before that.
Just get an HP ProBook or Dell Latitudes, best you can find for $200 shipped. Plenty of decent machines in that price range.
Most important things is to know your software and OS well.

>>100206197
Removable batteries, as in not needing a screwdriver to remove? They went out of style by the time Thunderbolt came around.

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>>100199826
I used regular electrical tape.
Kapton is great for high temp applications? Right on the CPU itself if needed for whatever alien reason?
Electrical tape is perfectly adequate anywhere else, man.

>>100177187
What's the one with the white keys in the bg?

>>100184951
How are they wrong?

>>100206197
t480

thinkbump

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love my p50 so much bros
don't care about total portability and battery life since I'm mostly in one place anyway so I just dock it
it is still amusing when I have to take it outside and see the reaction of others when I whip out this huge thick girl though
just being objectively superior to t480 despite being older is what I needed, I don't think I will be needing to upgrade specs wise anytime soon
used p-series deserves some love too

>>100210843
P52 is a better deal.

>>100207014
what keys?

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>>100206932
I recommend wiring harness tape, the stuff they use in car wiring. It’s temperature resistant, very sticky, and very pliable.
Usually it’s the same stuff they use to hold down wires in laptops anyway.

Anyway
Celeron x220
What’s a decent enough Chinese 4 cell for one of these? With a downclocked celery in this thing the original 4 cell at 76% health still lasts like 6 hours. I kinda want to get a new one.

>>100193400
based laptop
you could use it as cli client, no GUI

>>100181833
nigger that thing will melt

>>100215971
the x230 can handle the 3612qe quite fine actually

>>100215971
It won't, there's been enough guinea pigs on 51nb and xytech to figure out this is possible, doable and won't set shit ablaze.

>>100212938
I'm asking about the laptop in the background that has a white keyboard

>>100216255
>51nb and xytech
those atrocities with the idle watts of a EATX server?
okay good luck

>>100217266
Wow, negative nancy much.

>>100210843
I have a p51 and its the exact same laptop aside from the processor and gpu. I love it and I'm looking into giving it an oculink port using the second m.2 for a stronger external gpu. Thunderbolt just doesn't cut it considering the overhead and extra cpu usage. I'll also look into replacing the cpu with a 9th gen as I've been messing around and getting closer to BGA rework, and if I find it too intimidating to work on my own laptop I'll get someone else to do it.

>>100157887
any suggestion for a good thermal paste for x280?

>>100218773
Whatever you have on-hand already. The new meme is some Honeywell pad if you want to go that route.

>>100215971
>based laptop
>you could use it as cli client, no GUI
I love the look of the Precision M4300, an alternate version of the D830.

>>100218773
I usually buy arctic mx4 in bulk.

what's /tpg/'s consensus on acer?

does the X280 (or any *80 series ThinkPads) have any known issues with the trackpoint causing the system to freeze for short periods of time?
I recently got an X280 and had to return it because while using the trackpoint, the whole system would randomly freeze for up to 10 seconds every now and then. using only the touchpad, this wasn't an issue at all, and running a few diagnostics on the SSD, RAM, CPU etc. didn't show any errors. is this a known issue? I've never experienced it on my other *80 series ThinkPads

>>100219668
I've had some weird freezing issues with KDE. Using the latest Manjaro on my X280. I don't think I was using the clit, seems like some driver issue.

>>100219628
A mediocre brand at best.

>>100218773
I repasted my ThinkPad 6 months ago with the same Noctua NT-H1 tube from like 10 years ago
>b-but the box says it has a 3 years expiration date
Expiration date is a whole lot of bullshit 90% of the time
I'm not going to buy another fucking tube when I barely used half of the current one

>>100219628
They’re one of the few laptop companies that never really made a high end product tier. They have their predator gaming laptops which are better than the nitro stuff, but they’re still mostly just expensive due to pure hardware or size.

Their highest end conventional SKU is the Swift stuff? Which they’re just slightly nicer aspires usually with basic dgpus driving up the cost.

If you were to convert their entire lineup to business machines, they wouldn’t have a product equivalent for anything more than the thinkpad E or L series.
Which is fine. They know their market, and their market is millions of acer aspires.

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>>100221670
They did try once in recent years, with the ConceptD line
These were like hybrid workstation machines. Probably look at this like the weird thinkbooks or a new Z series. It’s a tech showcase, it’s flashy, it’s specced well but it’s not exactly the same caliber as really high end mobile workstations.

And this just didn’t work for them. This came out right as Asus was doing the ProArt stuff, and now the market is full of other options like this, namely the Z series but also HP and their Spectres kinda got into this

They still sell some ConceptD models but they’re not as wide of a range as they tried.
Which is a shame because these are kinda cool, but the market that would buy these is far more likely to get a zen book duo

>>100219628
I read that their gear is mediocre.
We do recommend Probooks, Latitudes, and Thinkpad for good reasons and not the other stuff as far as business laptops.

I need a recommendation anons. Looking for a decent cheap laptop, ~$300-350. More than 8gb ram as that’s not cutting it anymore. Ay models you can recommend? I haven’t bought or used a laptop in years.

>>100223597
T14 gen 1 ryzen 4650u

Buy a 8gb / 256gb model and upgrade it

Any way to make the clit even more sensitive on Windows? It's already on the fastest-sensitive settings. Or I could just grind down the edges of the keys GHB around it.

So I'm set on buying a t14 gen3 but whats the difference between the t14 and the t14s versions? In my limited experience the t450s was better than the t450 so I just wondering if thats still the case or not. I am keeping this in the office and never plan to take out out so more portability/battery is not needed.

>>100223892
Assuming it's the same as the Gen 2, the T14 has upgradable memory (and SSD?) and has better cooling

>>100222725
>Latitudes
If only they made some with AMD chips

>>100224105
Maybe there are Precisions with them too, I find it hard to believe there really aren't. Latitudes are a step below in price and performance of Precisions.

What's a good price on an X250 in grade A condition?

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I installed a carbon fiber skin for my t440 that I picked up on AliExpress and it feels like a brand new machine. does anyone have experience buying replacement screens from AliExpress? I want to upgrade my x260 to a 1080p display and on AE they are $45

>>100226236
I got a x260 from eBay for $150 USD. 16gb ram, 500gb SSD, Intel core i7

>>100227222
So $125 would be a good deal for an X250?

>>100217411
not a negative nancy at all, personally i had high hopes for a $1000+ classic thinkpad with modern insides but i got severely disappointed when i've read actual critical reviews instead of fanboys calling it "gorgeous" again and again in dozen paragraph blog posts.

What would be the better choice between a t480 (external battery only) or a t480s?

>tear down t440p
>too retarded to reassemble it
what can I do

>>100229150
use a t440 disassembly video, follow steps backwards

>>100223892
>>100229121
S models basically stand for slim, physically thinner and often has compromises (smaller cooling, lower power limit, less keyboard travel, maybe no ethernet). You buy the T14s if you want something thinner and if you want thinner than that you buy an x1 carbon or w/e. You buy T14 if performance is more important than 2mm thinness and 0.4lbs less.

More importantly S models usually have soldered ram without slots these days.

>Looking for new laptop that I can use at uni for comp-sci, doesn't heat up so much it burns and can fully operate running linux
>Search around online stores for new laptops, practically everything under $1,000 aussie dollarydoos is a chromebook which I know nothing about
>Look up thinkpads on ebay
>Cheap as fuck with lots of models available between $200-$500 dollarydoos
>Even models with features like touch/pen displays with styluses are the same prices of pure pen display monitors on their own
>Heaps of recent high ratings all around for listings
This feels too good to be true
If I just pulled the trigger and bought one of T4** or X3** series I see anons posting about am I really getting that great a deal?

>>100230468
yes

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X240 fucking sucks
this shit literally can only ever have a maximum of 8gb of RAM, idk how in their right mind did they only put one RAM slot in that shit knowing it can support max of 8gb. NOT ONLY THAT but this thing has terrible cooling, it already fried an i7 board so i had to get a replacement i5 one, doing basic tasks like watching a YouTube video will get the temps to go up to 90 degrees celsius
I fucking hate the X240 and the XX40 generation in general, fuck the XX40 generation

Any reason to not get a T480s over the T480 besides the soldered ram?
Seems to be way more available

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>>100199042
Nice chatgpt response.

Also, max ram on the T480 is 64.

>>100231188
ya homie no shit, x240 is straight up NOT bussin

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>>100231265
fr fr bro shits wack on a stack :skull:

Anyone with X280 (i5-8350) and running Linux who can tell me how loud the fan is under moderate load and how are the thermals in general? Like when watching YouTube (1080p), browsing, programming / compiling?

>>100198936
>What upgrades should I do first?
the thunderbolt controller

>>100218305
>oculink port
I wanted to give that a try but information is still so scarce.
From the little I found, apparently most ThinkPads aren't really fit to install that port if you don't want to tear the laptop apart? I guess you are supposed to keep the bottom cover open forever?

>>100229188
thanks

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I recently came across a like-new condition T420 for an excellent price. I installed Windows 7 and flashed the Oleh BIOS mod to remove any whitelists.
I want to install an LTE-capable WWAN card into the WWAN slot. I've already tried a Sierra Wireless Airprime and a Quactel EC25. I also tried a 3G Gobi3000 card.
The Sierra Wireless card causes a no boot condition with the 1-3-3-1 beepcode.
The EC25 and Gobi3000 is not detected by the laptop at all.
Are there any actual LTE cards that can be used in this hunk of junk or should i just throw it into a fire pit?

>>100157887
I'm limited by a tight budget (max €500) and someone recommended me a second hand t480 for 300, is it still good today for office use?

>>100227160
Meh, 1366x768 is rather good enough.

Lenovo ThinkPad T14 AMD Gen 1 14" Ryzen 5 PRO 2.1 GHz - SSD 256 GB - 16GB $446
Yay or nay?

>>100234650
Yay

>>100233925
Have you made sure the BIOS has the whitelist removed?

>>100236348
>whitelist
I think you mean allowlist.

>>100236348
yes the whitelist is removed. I have the "Advanced" tab in my BIOS.
I fiddled around a little more and got the Quactel cards to show up in device manager but they are incorrectly programmed as Android M2M. One of them has an unresponsive serial console and the other just spits out garbage. I imagine these two cards are just duds. They were spares I had laying around. I don't think they are meant to be laptop WWAN cards anyways.
I still don't understand the issue with the Sierra Wireless cards, though.

>>100181920
Nnice briefcase got the same for my T490, thinking of getting a T490s for the metal case and a P11 for my chinese comic book reading.

>>100228198
depends on the CPU, ram, and hard drive. I've picked up a t460 for $85 with an Intel core i5 6300u, 500gb SSD, and 8gb ram. x2#0 are typically more expensive due to the small form factor. if the x250 has 16 GB ram and an Intel core i7 then yeah I'd say it's worth $150. upgrading the drive is the easiest task and upgrading ram will require more work but still doable even if you've never done it before (there is prob at least 1 YouTube tutorial for your specific model). upgrading the CPU might require you to desolder the chip from your motherboard and resolder the new CPU to the motherboard. if the x250 is in near mint condition and has an i7 then go for it.

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Would you guys say a maxxed MacBook Pro 16inch could get mogged by the very best a Windows laptop (no heavier than 5 lbs) has to offer?

>>100238743
a gaming laptop with an rtx 4090 is miles better than any MacBook but they are $3000 USD. you can also find some models without those gay ass RGB lights. honestly why are normies so fascinated by RGB lights? how autistic do you have to be to think that's cool

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>>100236372

>>100234650
shit price, should be at least $150 less.

>>100231245
t480 max battery: 24 + 72 = 96wh
t480s max battery: 50wh

>>100239674
>honestly why are normies so fascinated by RGB lights?
Probably because they are techlets? I don't get it either, they just do. I didn't find it all that amusing first time I ever saw a machine with some kind of color-cycling decor years ago.
My Asus F17's RGB backlighting on the keybed always gets compliments and attention if seen.

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>>100234165
>1366x768 is rather good enough.

>>100239674
i see. thx for the reply

>>100234165
ever tried a 1900x1080p screen?
the difference is quite dramatic

Which models are you gonna snag cheap when windows 10 goes EOL?

>>100234165
I've been using a 2560x1600 display on my laptop for the past 11 years. I don't understand how anyone can stand such low res displays, not then, not now.

>>100242483
what? t480/x270 are able to run win11

>>100242483
I don't think the price is going to change much, at least not because of that
You have been able to bypass TPM and shit with Rufus since forever, not just with 11
You should be able to run 11 just fine on a fucking 2nd gen intel

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I need cash and I am going to sell my Thinkpad. is this a good price for a t460 with a gen2 USB C Thinkdock? or can I push for $300

>>100243817
>or can I push for $300
What's the other price before $300?

>>100232973
I plan to CNC the bottom plate and make a hole for the port, then I'd put it on a stand to make it easy to access. It should be very easy on the p50/p51 as they use a plastic cover for access to the m.2 slots, and don't need the entire bottom cover to be taken off. The only issue is the orientation of the slots as they are flipped the other way on the p51, so I may have to make a custom pcb with the slot on the other side to make it work. This part would be a lot easier on any other laptop.

>>100236372
Shut up nigger.

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>>100243817
lol. a t480 usually goes for 150 usd and youre asking double for a t460 which is significantly more outdated. gl finding a sucker.

>>100244467
$200
>>100245290
the Thinkdock goes for $150-$200 by itself

>>100245471
yeah, as new. second hand it goes for 30 dollars. but im sure you can find a gullible retard to scam.

>>100236372
Nigger Neo Nazi

>>100231789
Anyone?

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QUICK
Would you buy a like new t14s G4 for $430 americanos?
Mucho gracias

>>100246435
yeah thats an awesome deal

>>100246531
Well, its actually an auction, and I'm trying to figure out my sniping bid. What would you pay?

>>100246546
that's worth way more than 430 and you probably won't get it.

>>100246546
i would call it quits at 700. you can buy an entirely new one from lenovo for less than 1000 bux if you get a few discounts.

>>100157887
Thinkpad for coompiling? I plan to install gentoo on it

>>100246749
P52

I love the X2xx series. But I'm lacking CPU power. Currently on X240 i7 and struggling..

M1 Mac pro was amazing on the power side, but sucked ass because no linux.x

>>100246577
>>100246611
Sold for $500, I bid $480. Damn.

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>>100157887
>>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)
I just got an elitebook

>>100249495
840 G5 for 97€. i found equivalent thinkpads much more expensive. did i get a good deal or is there a good reason for thinkpads to cost 50-100% more?

>>100249517
great price

T14 gen 5 will have non-soldered ram, replaceable keyboard, ssd , ethernet port, battery.They pretty much have slapped QR codes on every replaceable part for easy repairs, as shown on MWC 2024.

> Guess the framework laptop did make their butthole clench after all.

I have a detached keyboard. Is this alright for browsing 4chan, typing on emacs, youtube/spotify, and doing some webdev?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145751929019?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=CbDYFH-3Qt6&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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Decent deal?

>>100254897
>>100249517
>>100246435
>>100234650
>>100228198
>>100227222
>>100175878
That's a fantastic deal you should definitely buy it.

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So my galaxy tab a7 is going to crap. I'm thinking of just getting a small laptop to replace it. What do you guys recommend? Going to be using it for stuff like Kindle, pron and web browsing mostly. Though I will miss the vertical viewing of a tablet for manga.

>>100186519
that device should be standard in restaurants. looks comfy

>>100257153
I think it's for someone who is disabled.

Should I just get a Framework?

>>100257951

As a person with a Framework, I will tell you that the fans are very loud at full tilt. And if you're like me, you use it as a desktop replacement with a Thunderbolt 4 dock. The upgradability is really a bit overrated, most stuff is Framework-product only, so no custom mainboards, no custom displays, etc. The swappable modules are cool, but note that you should buy different ones for situational ports and multiples like USB-C and USB-As.

Also, they have extremely slow update times from manufacturer. You may be traditionally used to Dell/Lenovo releasing drivers and patches regularly. This does not happen on Frameworks. Security patches lag in particularity. I believe they are now just patching LogoFAIL.

>>100241997
>implying we will have holograms, and the "monitor" won't be projected into cardboard

My X220 has been sitting in the closet for a while because of a couple of issues
>display cable degrading, either freezing the image or horribly distorting
>WiFi card isn't fully working (finds wifi signals but will not connect/connects but no internet)
Anything else I should replace while I'm at it?

>>100233925
flash coreboot
>>100236372
kill yourself you faggot nigger tranny

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>>100261967

>>100204911
there's definitely a thinkpad tax now, if I were you I'd try to get a Dell Latitude or HP Elitebook at an auction

Is the X220 still the meme for a non-ME computer?

had to replace the screen for my t420 :(
seller sent a glossy one, said whoops no refunds we pick at random
who does that?! i should have read but still, it said matte in the listing but description said glossy/matte at random.. just why
the more I look the more it seams the matte finish ones are lost to time, discontinued and when available, ludicrously priced - in the ball park of 150 - 200
dafuq
maybe it's time to try the 1080 screen mod? don't really want to do that, can't find those anymore either...
damn
wat do? glossy looks horrible- who da fuq do they even make glossy screens for?! my poor work horse... maimed...

>>100267049
It works like this, sellers write WORD/SHIT because people want WORD, but they don't have WORD, so they always deliver SHIT.
Don't worry, we all've been there.

Bought this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/296361063100

if I coreboot my t420 can I just stick any mini pcie wifi card in there? could I put a wifi 6E card in there? now wondering how to get those sexy antennae poking out of the thing

>>100267049
t420 parts are fucked there's nothing good available.
i wanted an ips screen for mine but i can't even find a normal screen that's not discontinued.

>>100268118
>>100267135
>>100267049
going for the B140HAN01.1 with a cable kit from ali express - it's not ips but imo that'll be too much power draw on top of the higher resolution, and i always have brightness way down anyway
so it'll basically be a full overhaul from here
coreboot
then get the i7 3632
then think ax200 wifi card
then drill into the side and shove some antennas in there
wondering now about the cpu fan, if only there was some piddly noctua i could throw in there...

>>100268118
Might it be because we bought them all?
There's little difference between a T420 and a T430, and most bandwagoners bought the T420 for the Cool and Hip Classic ThinkPad©™ experience without needing to fiddle with the keyboard and the palmrest.

>>100268247
yeah that'll be it for sure
t420 also has that magical meme number in there which alone makes it vastly superior to the... what was it called again? t430? lol what a lame name

>>100266547
X220 still requires part of the IME firmware.

>>100266547
its x230 now

>>100268205
i always thought noctua would be cool, but just set thinkfan to not run at all until 80c, will be fine if on desk and if you are on the move set it to like level 2

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Updated my retardpoorshitstation with a lamp and headphone stand.

>>100269880
Retard exif shit fuck

>>100269880
does it get hot or overheat with the lid closed?

>>100270044
I open it when I use it.

>>100270103
it isnt docked?

>>100270125
No.

>>100269880
Why in the world did you get a thinkpad if you're not using the clit in the keyboard?

>>100270941
I do when I use my thinkpad.

>>100270956
Look for one of these keyboards:
https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-edge-laptops/thinkpad-edge-e430c/accessories/pd005137-thinkpad-usb-keyboard-with-trackpoint-overview

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>BEEEP
>ch-kk
>whrrrrrr
>fade into silence
>whirRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>it only progessively gets louder
>suddenly stops for 5 seconds
>whRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
they don't make em like they used to.

I changed the CMOS battery of my t480 and it keeps randomly dying, help.

>>100271749
>working
>working
>working
>hold on
>working
>WORKING
>desktop
>WORKING

>>100272470
Probably a motherboard issue. Does the battery charge and hold a charge?

>>100272855
Yes, but the swappable battery does not.
its so over.

>>100268068
Yes

>>100272938
chill, does it stay on if you keep it plugged into your charger?

>>100269266
What makes the x230 better than the x220?

>>100277092
ivy bridge, more ram, better cooling, thinkpad-ec you can install x220 keyboard making it x220 with better specs

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Have L380, have audio driver with this dolby thing but there's no setting whatsoever. Isn't there supposed to be some kind of EQ at least?

>>100269880
get rid of those incel glasses before you shoot school up and also who holds phone with camera on the bottom right?

>>100278689
someone call the burn unit, we've got a victim

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desparately need new laptop. i think theres a sale but it's ending tonight, so i need to choose quick. which one?
>ThinkPad E16 Gen 1
>ThinkBook 16 Gen 6
>IdeaPad Slim 5 Gen 9 16"

Also Intel or AMD, I think all of them have various options? I want efficiency, low power use on idle, or low power tasks, but power in reserve for when I need bursts of it. I don't want it to be using too much power (AND THUS RUNNING HOT!) on idle.