>>100281650
Oh well, at least the old thread almost made it to 300.

Buy a thinkpad x230 and install heads. Write protect the flash chip. Put nail polish on the screws and take high resolution pictures to ensure signs of tampering. Do NOT use a HDD or SSD. They have DMA so a malicious firmware could do a lot of damage, use of USB is preferred since they do not have DMA. Completely remove the microphone, sound card, webcam and the WWAN card from the laptop. Remove the fan to prevent binary acoustic data transmission. Replace the default wifi card with a supported atheros card. Disable wifi when not in use, preferably by physically removing the card. Make your own independent Linux distro from scratch. Most Linux distros value convenience over security and will thus never have good security. Your only option is to make your own. Use musl instead of glibc, Libressl instead of openssl, sinit instead of systemd, oksh instead of bash, toybox instead of gnu coreutils to reduce attack surface. Enable as little kernel modules as possible. Use a hardened memory allocator. Apply strong SELinux and sandboxing policies. Restrict the root account heavily to make sure it never gets compromised. Disable JavaScript and CSS in your browser. Block all FAGMAN domains in your hosts file. Monitor all network requests. Do not use a phone. Never speak near anyone who owns a phone, they are always listening. Never use any non-corebooted technology made after 2006. Never leave your devices unattended. Tape triple layer aluminum foil all around your room as tempest shielding. Type really quietly as defense against audio keylogging. Use ecc ram to minimize rowhammer and rambleed. Encrypt everything multiple times with various different encryption implementations. Compile everything from source. Use hardened compilation flags. Always read through the source before installing something if possible. Only use the internet when absolutely necessary.

desparately need new laptop. i think theres a sale but it's ending tonight, so i need to choose quick. which one?
>ThinkPad E16 Gen 1
>ThinkBook 16 Gen 6
>IdeaPad Slim 5 Gen 9 16"

Also Intel or AMD, I think all of them have various options? I want efficiency, low power use on idle and on low power tasks.

>>100282392
FMK

>>100282239
kek

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I'm going to replace the screen of my T480 and I'm nervous about it. It's not that bad right? My only real experience with this kind of thing is that I replaced the fan in an X230. Will I be OK if I was able to do that successfully?

>>100283999
checked, just dont apply any pressure on the screen and it will be fine
captcha: NSA4

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How collectible are some computers really? I have a lot of old hardware I’m trying to get rid of without just throwing it in the dumpster. Would like to see these things given to someone who might actually use them and not accumulate garbage tech for the sake of hoarding.
I’m in Europe, I have a few older laptops and lots of memories

>>100284306
list models

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A few semi working for parts laptops

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Box full of memories

>>100284401
based i also have box full of ram sticks
>>100284376
try restoring atleast 1 for now, just clean it fully and repaste
blue acer looks like good first computer for someone, put some educational linux distro on it
restore and get rid of 1 by 1 or it will be overwhelming
the webcam cover is also cute desu

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Really nice mint condition fully working T42

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A not working compaq 2360c

>>100284528
Geez what happened to that screen?

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And one of these as well as a few parts for x220

>>100284565
That is what i was wondering
I remember cleaning it with just plain water and it was working when i stored it. Pulled it out now and not only was it not working anymore but the screen looked like that. It’s possible that the area where I stored it had humidity. No heat or cold exposure though

>>100284565
Keep in mind this machine is basically 30 at this point. I think it was a 486 or a Pentium 1. I think this generation of processors literally had gold in the chip

>>100281650
Does anyone in the UK want an old T480? I'll let it go around £100. Can put it on eBay if you want but you pay fees.

>>100284668
What are you getting instead?

>>100284691
I recently got an M2 Pro macbook and the thinkpad is collecting dust now. it would be sad to see it live out the rest of it's days in my cupboard.

>>100284743
2500 bps?
How are you enjoying it?
I’m really torn between mba m3 and the framework 13

>>100284770
I got a 16gb 512gb 14" spec off of costco for £1500. I really like it for the battery life, and have mostly been able to replicate my i3 install using Yabai. I really like the keyboard and the trackpad is unmatched imo. There is some things I miss from the thinkpad but overall I'm very happy with the upgrade.

>>100284819
16 gig of ram for 1500 lmao scammed

I impulse bought an L390 and coming from an x230 really like everything about it except I didn't realize it's the TN model that runs at 1366x768

>>100284839
I can't put a price on being able to work in the forest all day without needed a generator or solar panel

>>100284839
For 1500 he got a machine that works, that had the best screen of any laptop, the best battery life of any laptop and pretty good performance. Apple may six in lots of ways but you can’t say he was scammed. Specially since you’d have to spend as much for an equal laptop pc

>>100284881
do you not know how to use powertop?

>>100284985
Are you really this obtuse?
Apples chip power efficiency is undeniable and can’t be compared to any other x86

>>100284985
Dude, it's just not comparable. I'd love to move back to linux when/if qualcomm figures their shit out and some good OEM's come out with ARM laptops.

>>100285014
you did not answer the question

I bought a Legion Slim 5 with a RTX 4070 for 1300 euros. what am I in for?

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>>100285070
your question is retarded and gay. this general is too.

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Is this the correct dock for xx80 series devices. I have two HDMI 1080p 60fps monitors I want to run through this to a t580.

>>100282392
Of the 3, I'd get the E16.

>>100284306
>>100284376
I just sent a Dell D410, D810, a Compaq N600c, and an Acer Aspire (one like the blue model) to the recycler.

>>100284869
This is why you always check screen specs. Plug the serial into Lenovo's site and it will tell you what the specs on the screen are. Or were when it was built anyway.
"HD" = 768p
"FHD" = 1080p

>>100284475
I have a few T42 odds and ends around, including a motherboard but I have no idea if it works. Idk why I didn't toss it out with the other parts I was getting rid of.

>>100284401
I have a box of these too. I've been trying to think of an art project with them. Like casting them in clear resin for a tabletop or some shit.

>>100287045
I'll get rid of everything but the T42 I'll keep to mess with later.
The rest I think I will drop it off at the recycler place.

Is there any sort of "goto" for a reasonably powerful thinkpad? I just want something that can actually run Simulink and compile LLVM (overnight) unlike my current X220.
Looking at a T490 with 16GB and the i7 which seems like good value for 400AUD but its been years since I looked at the laptop market.

Is there some kind of known failure mode where an X201 just shits itself? Plug light comes on, little Z power light comes on, nothing else works after the little flash on turn on – not even BIOS screen. It’s not the display because the Thinklight isn’t even working

>>100287899
>Is there some kind of known failure mode where an X201 just shits itself?
Yes, it's called owning a 16 year-old laptop.

Should I upgrade from a T440p to a T490? Or is that dumb?

>>100289166
It's enough of a jump you'll probably notice but - how is your current workload is being handicapped by the T440p? Hard to recommend upgrading if the current hardware is getting the job done.

>>100289221
My T440p is heating up constantly and the HDD can be slow sometimes. Other than that... it's working fine. 95% of the time I only use Firefox, sometimes VLC.

>>100287045
Yeah, at least it wasn't very expensive. Going to toy around with it and keep an eye out for an FHD; notwithstanding the shitty TN viewing angles I love this thing. Keyboard isn't as pleasantly chunky as the x230 but I'm pretty sure that's an inescapable reality of moving to anything newer.

>>100289256
What OS are you using?

>>100286918
>I have two HDMI 1080p 60fps monitors I want to run through this to a t580.
that dock would support it

>>100289166
I use T440p almost daily for 2 years no real problems. Bought 16GB of ram, FHD screen and i7-4710mq. Unironically best thinkpad I have. T480 seems like the next logical step but its not time yet.

>>100289256
Repaste your CPU and clean the fan if you haven't done that. If you're not handy at all and you're using Windows, reinstall.

I don't know what it's like in the US, but in the UK those 'refurb' companies that sell ThinkPads will literally spray paint the keyboards. The fuck? Trying to find one while avoiding places like that.

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>>100289166
>>100289221
>>100289256
>>100290630
>>100291461
>>100292251
Wait... modern ThinkPads use soldered charging ports?

Oh no no no no no-ppffffttt... AHAHAHHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAH
Enjoy your PlannedObsolescenceBook, ThinkChuds!

Thanks, but no thanks. I will stick with my T440p a little longer and then replace it with a Dell Latitude

>>100292251
I'll probably do that.

How much should you pay for a used T490 with MX250 on eBay?

I want to buy my first ThinkPad, unsure on how to assess prices

>24460 / 57000 mwh battery capacity
>576 cycle
welp, seems like this t480s has been heavily abused
there is also a company label sticker left on it, apparently it is from a semiconductor company

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>>100281650
Wrong thread but what is the thinkpad of workstations? I'm looking for something I can turn into a nas and headless workhorse machine. I looked into used thinkstations and optiplexes but they seem too expensive for what they actually are or come with shit I don't want that drives up the price (novideo gpu, win11 license, etc)

Can you guys do better than this? I have a feeling there's a flaw here.

>used framework
>$520 + $80 (for ssd and RAM)
>i5 11th gen

>>100293301
You’re not to far off from buying something else brand new. But your deal sounds good to me to, I guess it depends on the condition of the thing

>>100293164
hp z220
asus kcma-d8/kgpe-d16
all relevant cheap old ones with ecc ram, from energy efficient to high core counts, and of course coreboot support

>>100293992
What would you say that's new and is a better deal than that? I'm somewhat lost.

>>100289166
Go for a T14

>>100293164
My ThinkStation S30 still does everything I need it to do.
...but holy shit is it old and showing its age.

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Decided on getting a ThinkPad E16 Gen 1.
I'm looking at different configurations, and noticed something weird.
If I go the Intel path I have the option of a 47Wh or a 57Wh battery.
But when I choose AMD there's no option, only 47Wh.
I wanted to go AMD but not at the cost of a smaller battery. IntelAviv for me I guess.

But why would this be the case?

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Seriously, how can anyone go back to an other laptop after using a ThinkPad? Having a middle click button is a gamechanger for how a I use browse the web on a laptop. I could never go back to right clicking and then clicking 'open in new tab', or having to hold Ctrl with my other hand to click on a link.

How is it no other manufacturer has tried to copy having a middle click button on their laptops?
It's actually kind of a bad thing, because now I'm locked into one range of one manufacturer. It should be a laptop standard.

>>100284376
I have a love for netbooks. Small size and ~2w Intel Atom processor for basic tasks make it a great portable office computer.

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>>100301105
Lenovo is gay and frequently cucks the AMD machines. I don't know that they're that more power efficient that would make it a wash but I haven't dug into the reviews on the E16.

>>100301105
The screen is shit and washed out. Keyboard is OK. Other than that it's fine when on sale.

Anyone have a newer X1 carbon? Is the ghosting noticeable?
Looking at the gen 11 before it runs out of stock and 27ms black to white seems excessively high for a 2k laptop.

>>100301525
This, and the keyboards being (marginally now) superior to the competition is the only reason I've stuck with Lenovo. It actually irritates me when I have to use a laptop without a pointing stick (Dell and HP both tried this for a time and gave up) and middle click button (which I don't think any other mfg ever caught onto).

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P14s Gen 4 thoughts.

>Model
Ryzen 7840U
Radeon 780M
64gb RAM
1TB NVME
OLED Screen (2880x1800)
52.5 Wh battery

Running it on Fedora. My first impression is that the new keyboards are pretty alright in terms of key feel, not really too different from the classic keyboard modded T430 I have. Less travel, but still the same tactility. The layout is worse, but not a deal breaker for me. Aesthetically speaking, it's no competition; the classic keyboard still kicks ass there.

The speakers are complete garbage on Linux by default, but thankfully someone made a EasyEffects preset for this laptop which improves it greatly. https://github.com/m4tx/thinkpad-p14s-g4-linux/#sound

The efficiency of the CPU is pretty good. I'm usually topping out a 6 watts when just doing basic browsing, and 15-20 watts when doing productivity work loads. The laptop is barely warm to the touch, though the fans are quite loud. Still miles away from the noise of my T430.

The screen is very beautiful. It has a matte finish, which is not my preference for OLED, but it's not too bad and the pixel density is strong enough to where any dulling of sharpness is reasonably compensated for. 90hz is just right for a laptop display.

The battery life is less impressive. It's probably a combination of a Linux and OLED issue, though. I should have gone for the lower resolution screen if I wanted to prioritize battery life, and while doing basic tasks it's really not so bad. If I were to just do basic browsing on 4chan and writing in word documents, it would last 8 hours or so. If I introduce videos into the mix, it tanks to 3 hours while streaming. The hardware decoding situation for AMD on Linux is pretty jank by comparison to Intel. I could get it working in Firefox, but not Chromium based browsers. Which would be fine, but Firefox seems to load the CPU more heavily than Chromium for whatsoever reason. Intel is still a better experience than AMD on Linux for video playback.

Redpill me on these IR webcams.
Are they harmful to the eyes? I don't like the idea of it flashing in my eyes all the time. Think I might choose a normal webcam, even if it means going down to 720p. My eyes' safety is more important!

>>100302745
the IR only activates when doing shit like Windows Hello

Sup faggots,
Tempted to buy a refurbished t490s.
Intel i5-8365U @1.60 16GB RAM 256GB SSD Win 11 Pro

For $400 Aussie dollarydoos. That's about $265 burger bucks.

Good deal or nah. It looks to be properly refurbished, good battery, the dealer offering 3 month warranty etc.
Am I just better off getting a t480?
Really just want something for browsing, streaming, and occasionally using office packages when not using my actual work laptop.

Weight isn't totally critical but being easier to travel with something does ad some points.

Cheers ThinkPad autists for potentially saving me from just buying a new laptop like a goy.

>>100302936
Sounds about right.

>>100302936
I would just try to save a bit more and get a t480, if you can find it at a cheaper price.

>>100294741
That’s what I am trying to find out as well. When I said you’re not far from new I meant that by the time you spend 600, you could actually save another 600 and buy something brand new

>>100303919
Good point. But for $1,200 I can't think of anything great. Laptops will be a bit faster but not a major upgrade. Only thing I can think is a macbook, but that will be more like $2,000. Maybe you can get an OK PC build for $1,200?

>>100304092
at that price you could probably get a new 13th gen i5 t14/p14, depends how important a new battery is to you

>>100304169
Well this would just be a personal laptop for me. I guess if you need it for work, you could get your company to pay for it or just build a PC. I should probably research more about framework. There has to be some catch. The used parts are probably a monopoly or something that cost 10x more so it becomes unfeasible to repair. This is a similar situation for fairphone. Parts for older devices are conviently sold out 99% of the time so the ability to repair your phone is useless. I also don't think you can upgrade the CPU on the laptop, which is what people buy new laptops for.

>>100302187
Thanks for the review. I keep wanting there to be a model where the AMD model is significantly better but unfortunately the jews at IntelAviv keep winning.
>>100302859
>Windows Shalom
>>100302936
Why does nobody ever mention the screen specs?
>>100303919
>I mean if you just take your budget and double it you can get something nice.
Huh, no shit?

>>100304377
>double your budget
By the time you reach 600 bucks and not factoring in shipping or other costs I would begin looking at double the price yes unless the 600 bought me something brand new. But that is my own way of thinking

>>100304092
>>100304377
>>100304511
Are there literally no good laptops to buy at $1200 price point other than the framework or macbook?

What about the dell precision 3480?

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Buying a laptop for uni, is X1 Carbon gen 7 good? Weight is the main priority, as it's replacing a 4lbs celeron n3350 atom laptop. Basically going to be used for word processing, browsing and PDF files.

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Anyone want to try and beat my T420 geekbench? I've spent quite a lot of time tuning this thing. Let's see what you got.

https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5959464

(p.s. only third gen intel/comparable amd laptops need apply, it's not fair to compare across generations although I'm pretty sure it would beat some haswell stuff)

>>100304661
What about it?

>>100304542
Don't buy a framework for >$1,000. That's silly. Everything else over $1,000 isn't justified unless its a macbook m series. Even doing a PC build for $1,200 isn't that great. $2,500 is probably better for a build or some Mac shit. Otherwise just get a t480 or similar for dirt cheap or that framework crap (maybe).

>>100304542
I was being sarcastic mocking >>100303919.
>Sure, you've only got $600 but if you magic up twice as much you could get something nicer bro.

>>100308872
He has a point. Usually the "budget" option is lacking in places you don't expect or it's gimped on purpose. You're better off buying the best you can, unless you need a device right now. I don't think there's any laptop emergencies. None that I can think of anyway.

>>100305021
>Basically going to be used for word processing, browsing and PDF files.
buy used t480 and new battery from kingsener its going to be 1/3 of the price

whats the best new budget or mid thinkpad?

>>100284528
That screen might have developed "cataracts" and can be fixed, if it is just the thin plastic film that is on top of the LCD that has decayed. Would check it out. Check forum.vcfed.org for instance.

Anons, I am not a /g/ regular but I need a pc and I am on a very very tight budget
ThinkCentre M910t yes or no?

>>100284624
>Using water
Use isopropyl alcohol you fucking dumbass. You can get that stuff from a local drug store for about 5 bucks a liter or so at >70% concentration

is T480 best to buy?

>>100309323
I don't want a T480, I already have a T14, this is a second laptop intended to be less bulky.

Was just going to go with T14s ryzen 4650u for $300 but the speakers are on the bottom, X1C7 has top speakers that are far superior. Seems like X1C7 is just considered better, aside from having to use an inferior intel CPU.

>>100306315
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5966067

T14 4650U I got for $217 usd

>>100312272
I mean that's a 4000 series ryzen.. it's several generations ahead. It's not a fair comparison. As I said in my original post, I was expecting something more comparable.

whats the difference between heads and coreboot?
is there any reason why i would want to use heads over coreboot?

>>100312412
That's the point. Your i7 is also 55w TDP and the 4650u is only 15w TDP. It's 1/4 the TDP and 2x the performance.

>>100312490
it's not the point, the point was to compare against similar generations as I wrote in the original post...

>>100281650
can you transplant x230 keyboard ribbon onto x220 keyboard
broke part of the cable on x220 keyboard and i want to transplant it from x230, so far doesnt seem to be working at all and the capslock button light up at "start", doesnt boot, poweron button doesnt light up on press and screen always black

>>100312831
ok it booted phew
x230 ribbon works on x220 keyboard
i had to remove tape from the pins and it now works fine
capslock light is always on though and keyboard backlight works again with the isolation so i dont know if thats good

>>100312449
i use heads and thats all i need
if i didnt use heads i would use coreboot
thats all you need to know

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>>100305021
Ended up ordering this one here, turns out this i5 performs nearly identical to i5-10210u because it's the same 14nm+++ shit. Weighs 0.4lbs less than a MacBook air 13in, can't wait.

I needed a laptop quickly so I impulse bought a refurbished t480. I tried to reinstall windows but the machine refused to boot into my windows installation usb and I'm once again cucked into using a mono-linux pc due to my computer illiteracy. Otherwise the best laptop I have ever used.

>>100313840
What do you like most about it?

Is there any advantage with soldered RAM or are manufacturers just trying to squeeze money out of buyers?

>>100314633
They can make the laptop thinner.

>>100314552
The sturdiness, I can grab from the side and lift and it doesn't creak, the keyboard doesn't cave in, the screen has metal hinges so it doesn't wobble and I can just open it normally without worrying about it snapping. Also the touchpad is good enough that I'm willingly using gestures.

>>100314633
My guess is soldered ram is an automated process in manufacturing vs someone physically installing the stick of memory in which would mean access to the inside of the unit also becomes more important and more complex? Not to mention the fact that something that is automated and not made to be open means less mistakes less problems with manufacturing and therefore cheaper.
The planned obsolescence as a bonus is just the icing on the cake

>>100314633
Allows the memory chips to be physically closer to the CPU, which is more important at higher speeds

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What should I buy to run MATLAB, Solidworks, and simple stuff in COMSOL?

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>>100292761
>>Thanks, but no thanks. I will stick with my T440p a little longer and then replace it with a Dell Latitude
whats so great about dell latitude, looks like default apple/surface cuck shit

>base cover material
Should I buy plastic or aluminium?

I've always been happy with plastic. Sell me on aluminium. What makes it better?

>>100315743
Mech? From my experience Matlab/Simulink just appreciates 8G+ of RAM. My X220 can run it albeit slowly.
>Solidworks, and simple stuff in COMSOL
No idea I picked the superior major.

>>100316087
is that picture elysee cafe in westwood?

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>>100316198
no clue but probably not. why would they be russian?
>>100316259
apparently yes, yes it is. very good catch. no clue what that is though. is that place a big deal or something? some special famous cafe?

>>100313097
>>100312831
Hey that's good to know. I'm going to try this on mine in the next couple of days. Maybe the ribbon is what's busted on my x220 kbd and it's not actually something in the keyboard itself.

is the wlan switch on older models an actual physical wifi card disconnect or is it just locking the OS out of accessing it?

>>100284306
>and lots of memories
I would like to read some of them
>>100284401
lul

>>100318119
Physical switch. Powers off the card.

Thoughts about the X12 detachable? I have an iPad for college but it's such a restricted device. X12D seems more generally useful.

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any ideas on getting the screw covers for the x230 to be sticky again?

Figured this might be a decent place to ask. Any good youtube channels about old computers/laptops? Preferably weird and obscure ones. There's LGR, but his voice makes me want to kill myself

>>100315888
They put their charging ports on a daughter board instead of soldering it, which means they are more easily repairable than a ThinkPad and will last longer. ThinkPad is just chinese tech that lives off of its name, but doesn't offer anything better than the competition anymore.

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why do people only use thinkpads in texas?

My stinkpad smells like burning plastic when I use it

>>100319447
Try applying heat, most adhesives react well to it.

>>100321252
A Texas liberal transbian

>>100321749
Why didn't you shoot it?

How important is it to get a X230 with the i7 CPU? Will an i5 suffice? I plan on running some linux OS on it or maybe FreeBSD.

>>100322093
There are minimal benefit for having dual core i7 on X230, so go with i5.

>>100322157
Wrong, install a quad core and FHD mod, become X330.

>>100322093
get cheapest and replace it with quad core
>>100322714
this

>>100321172
Differentiate themselves from Californians. One day all trespassers in our land will be hanged (legally, after due process in a court of law). Californians, south/central americans, and yankees alike.

>>100321172
THIS IS THINKPADISTAN YOU BITCH

>>100322714
how bad is battery life with quad core fhd vs stock?

>>100324675
3615qe quad core draws less power than stock cpu on idle because its more efficient
fhd is also less because newer technology but mod board adds 1 extra watt i believe
i can check with powertop l8r if you want exact numbers

>>100324748
im ok with just averages on light or heavy use.
what about temps?

>>100313097
what did you do with the rubber dome mouse part of the ribbon cable? does it just come out or do you have to desolder it from the cable

New to /g/
nice to see a resident ccp shill maintianing generals. well, on every board the generals are maintained by shills so

>>100301525
I'm more annoyed there are no good usb keyboards with the mouse/trackpad in the same style of the thinkpad one

>>100292761
>>100315888
>>100320771
wake me up when latitudes include the nipple mouse in the keyboard

>>100325025
built llvm for 3 hours was fine, sat at around 85 c
max temps by intel ark specifcation are 105 c
on idle or low load 40 - 60 c with fan set to off

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Anon from before who wants to replace his T440p here.

I can't decide between a T480 and Fujtsu Lifebook E449. Both have the same specs for the same price. Fujtsu probably has a better quality because it's Japanese and not Chinese, but worse keyboard and touchpad, and getting replacement parts for it might be more difficult.

>>100325186
I don't use those.

>>100325189
ok. where to get the fhd mod itself? do taobao sellers still have them or should i try my luck with aliexpress? or did you get one when nitrocaster was a thing

>>100325309
got it locally from some guy like month ago, dont know where he sources it but he had only one left
look for "a.gain" board

>>100325213
For what it's worth I tried to switch to a T480 from the X230 for work and while it is faster, I can't get used to the keyboard and CPU throttle kills it for me. T480 also cost me like 250 euros compared to the 150 of the X230.

I have no idea what to replace the X230 with. Only thing I'm certain about is that I want a 16:10 screen, which you can only find in x13 g2 and up going for like 600-700 euros...
Is there something I'm missing here? Why is the 16:10 screen so expensive?

Latitudes have the screen, but they cost the same and have no nipple...

>>100325481
>I have no idea what to replace the X230 with.
nothing
>Only thing I'm certain about is that I want a 16:10 screen
install 2k 16:10 screen

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>>100325356
i tried ordering one like this through superbuy last week and a bottom with extra vents but had to cancel the order. idk if the case bottom messed thing up or if the seller didnt have any boards left. or maybe im retarded

T470 still going strong after Frankenstein-ing parts from my lenovo legion. The only thing it doesn't do well is play uhd video

>>100285535
Honestly shit build quality. Get warranty ASAP and have them fix every single thing that goes wrong with it. Had to send my legion 5 12 times within 3 years warranty since things kept fucking up. The worst part was the charging port.

>>100325590
picrel is exact one which i have
i only installed the display board and didnt bother with the extra msata

>>100325513
Way too much effort for the 2k screen, I would have to manually refit the bezel, cut some parts off and source the screen as well.
I'm also pretty sure the HD4000 wouldn't like it. It already has trouble with hardware accelerated webapps sometimes.

>>100325979
the lid cutting took me 10 minutes and it was my first time
about the graphics not liking big screen, half true
>webapps
die, no js nor electronjs allowed my machine

>>100283999
changing the screen was ultra simple, it was just plug and play, ultra easy..

worst about it was putting the plastic cover back,especially clicking in the bottom part,fucking hate it

>>100285014
>>100286696
this is thread about thinkpads, not appletard mobile CPU ARM laptops

>running cinebench or some mp4 encode on battery
LMAOOOOOO

>>100284881
T480 with low power igzo display upgrade... shows about 1day battery life on idle.. to be sure have multiple external batteries to swap them to be sure to endure any workload

>>100326417
OK, I'm probably also going to get a new bezel along with the display. Do you think that's a better idea than reusing the original one?

>>100326452
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/image/oxtFk_SoArW45C9Vi80FMQ/
same file name same posting as always shills gonna shill, doubt he even owns one

>>100286696
this picture you posted is fucking bullshit

latest mobile AMD cpus are on par with appleshit mobile phone style ARM cpu and they are x86

next thing, you show idle of some shit old ryzen 4000, even my shit old T480 has such idle wattage, plugged it to wall rn - showed 8W and im not on the lowest cpu freq and was blasting IGZO display at full power

and the bottom you are comparing desktop CPUs to apple mobile phone style ARM cpus
another total bullshit

this not only shows the total stupidity of appletards, but only makes me have even lower respect and more hate for appletards

>>100289256
>HDD
are you kidding me, why wont you put fucking SATA SSD there

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this is basically laptop general so:

I currently use this ARM chromebook. It was $66 open-box. What would be a good upgrade?
>11.6" 1366x768 IPS
>MT8183
>4GB LPDDR4X
>32GB eMMC
>fanless, stays cool
>13-15hr battery
>lame 720p webcam
>huge bezels

https://www.acer.com/us-en/chromebooks/acer-chromebook-311-cb311-11h-cb311-11ht/pdp/NX.AAYAA.004

>>100328179
what do you use it for?

>>100326466
I don't have to bring a backpack full of batteries with my MBP, and I need a bright display if I am outdoors.

>>100328179
literally anything you get will be better than this.
and literally anything you get will get at the most half your current battery llife, but realistically expect 4 to 6 hours.

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>>100328545
basic tasks
>web browser
>video chat
>office suite

it's just too slow, the resolution is too low, and the display is too small. chromeos + arm has basically zero applications though beyond the basics, too. i'd like to do some music stuff, like record guitar with a VST amp simulator or whatever, and obviously I can't do that on this. i don't like how big the bezels are. it seems like a huge waste of space. the webcam is garbage, too. I wanted to program with Racket but it just doesn't work on this device.
>>100329011
>at the most half your current battery llife, but realistically expect 4 to 6 hours
i don't want to do that

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>>100322093
Only the i7 X230 has 1 USB 3 port... every Thinkpad below that is USB 2 and nothing more

>>100281650
what do i do if my fan sometimes works and sometimes does not.

>>100329838
dont know anything about webcams, i always remove them from my laptops
also unsure about your budget
i hate this one but i would say thinkpad t480 with low power display, lowest tdp cpu and buy new big battery from kingsener
should be under $200 if lucky, it wont be arm and will have minimum 10 hours of battery though unsure about webcam quality and if you can replace the webcam with some better one

>>100329888
checked, replace it with different and see if it still happens? or via software in linux monitor fan rpm status and level

>>100330220
that looks horrible

Do you guys think it would be smart to upgrade my T14 Gen 2's SSD from 512GB to 2TB considering SSD prices are expected to increase soon? I am an engineering student, web developer, graphic designer, etc. I usually keep my devices neat and tidy but I feel like having the extra room to grow would be nice to have and would also increase the resale value of the device when I sell it in a few years.

What's a good price on an X250 in grade A condition?

>>100331396
do you need the space? if so, yes
if not, then no

should be an easy enough question to answer for yourself.

>>100326562
latest AMD mobile CPUs are not really on par with Apple's ARM chips when it comes to low power workloads, i.e. regular browsing or other near-idle tasks

t. have M1 Air for work and a Thinkpad for personal use

>>100332787
what about snapdragon, are they still a meme for laptops?

>>100333153
IIRC they're shit. the mediatek options seem to be the only good ones.

>>100332593

40 money units

>>100332787
Yeah. AMD is very competitive when it comes to higher multi-threaded workloads and is efficient there, but x86 just ain't that great at minimal tasks. That being said I still will never use an Apple laptop just because it has a lot of other annoyances for me. *Maybe* if Asahi Linux finally gets MacOS tier battery I might consider it.

>>100329845
I thought this was the X220

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Can I do anything cool with x230t? Last I checked it didn't support the usual screen mods.

>>100325152
the fuck are you on about? This general is old as fuck and well yeah lelnovo is chink but so is biden

X1 Carbon Gen10 - good machine, yes?

(about to buy a used one)

>>100337136
they made 10 generations of it, people must like it well enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGeQvt9hngk

cornfields items

>>100281650
what does fn+spacebar do? i use a window manager and when i accidentally hit it or press to enable thinklight, it makes most of my wm uninterractable, i.e. can't doesn't react to anything besides currently active windows on the screen. and i don't know how to turn it off

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Do any elitebook users know if you can swap the main letter keycaps around freely, or are they slightly different shapes? I bought a 1030 g4 on ebay, with the one downside of it is that it has a french layout (pic related). I could probably use it anyway, I'd just prefer to swap the keys around.

>>100325186
some models have it, i've seen a 7490 with the nipple

>>100338702
slap some stickers on it

>>100339324
Don't wanna

where can i buy Thinkpad X1 carbon 1 gen?

>>100338702
l2type and stop looking at the keys

>>100284668
Yeah I'm in manchester, email cyberboreann@proton.me

>>100339899
I don't have to look at keys, I'd just be annoyed at having the wrong configuration. That's why it's not a major drawback, just a minor annoyance.

Good models with a keyboard + numpad?

I found a T570 for cheap but not sure if it's good.

>>100316087
what a pair of delectable snacks

>>100339963
Am I the crazy one? I figured you'd just tell your OS it's an English keyboard and when you hit the A key on your French keyboard, a Q comes out instead.

>>100326452
There are many types of people in this thread. Hard core brand loyalists like yourselves who will be using their thinkpad even after it’s 20 years old claiming it’s still usable with Linux if you just weren’t such a codelet.
There are people who just want a cheap laptop to do what they need.
There are shills like someone pointed out.
And there are people who don’t care and would like good recommendations for a laptop.

As it stands today thinkpads in general prior to the t480 have ceased to be a good recommendation for anyone but brand loyalists.
To advise someone who just wants a laptop to spend 200 plus euros/usd on used components or of dubious origin and quality is beyond ridiculous. To even suggest any laptop prior to the t480 for general purpose is tone deaf.
Yes thinkpads are great. I own three but they have stopped being a good laptop to recommend. Even anything above the x220 is not recommended because of the advantages that the prior thinkpads had. The new keyboards aren’t as nice, nor is the layout, nor is the build quality. Thinkpads are a hobbiest computer. And if you can’t understand any of this, that different people have different needs, skills and consider different things to be valued higher or lower than what you consider them to be, you may literally be diagnosed with autism level 1 and should see a physician.

>>100329838
>I don’t want to do that
Then you don’t want to look at x86 anything.

my i5 5200u laptop really started sweating over nothing.

>>100341036
I mean yeah probably does (don't have the thing yet so I don't know for sure), but my annoyance is with how it looks not how it functions.

>>100341050
>As it stands today thinkpads in general prior to the t480 have ceased to be a good recommendation for anyone but brand loyalists.
Basically the old ones are still good if all you need is 2023-2024 Chromebook performance and don't mind the tradeoff in heat/power/battery to gain a better keyboard (and even then the GPU on a Chromebook is miles better). And/Or your hobby is tinkering. They are most definitely hobbyist machines. Even the T480 shilling is cope.

>>100341988
Well that's why I was saying just don't look at the keys but if appearance is at issue, I get it. I almost never look at the keyboard and have thought about getting a jap keyboard at replacement time.

I'm currently using a P50 but I'd like to get something more portable.

I have heard that the T480 is good, but I don't know how true that is and would like to know about other models to look into before buying a new one.

>>100344362
T480 is comfy af desu. I got one that's mostly pimped out.

What do you want to use it for? It's quite lighter than the P50 (I read). Battery life is also amazing, especially if you get the 72wh external + a new 24wh internal if you receive it degraded.

>>100335041
What's a money unit?

>>100341050
T14 gen 1 and T495 is the new t480, you can get them for $200-300 and the AMD ones shit on the Intel.

I don't understand the swappable battery meme because the new CPUs are more efficient and you can still take the bottom off and replace the battery if you want. I can get 8hrs of use out of my T14 4650u and 10 if I go to battery saving mode, and it can be charged by my phone charger as well as car charger. Hell you can use a usb battery pack if you want and have a spare battery you can use for other things as well with you. With battery saving mode it's still faster than a T480.

I don't understand the build quality complaints either. It still realistically won't break ever. Keyboard is still good.

>>100347205
You've triggered the trap card for the soldered RAM spergs. Make peace with your gods.

>>100335332
You are right it was the X220 i7 I stand corrected
Both X230 and T430 have shiny USB3 ports

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hej lads, I'm looking for a laptop that'll be used mostly for graphic design stuff and I'm considering a 2nd gen p16s
I only use illustrator and photoshop right now but I'd like to work with after effects and firefly in the future
will this last me a good couple years?

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i have a laptop from 2014 with a i7 4500u and an nvidia 750m i keep as a backup in case my main machine breaks. it's still working (i upgraded the ram to 16gb and replaced the dvd drive with an hdd caddy) but i'm thinking of buying a new one

where i live i can buy a laptop with a i7 13450hx + 3050 for a decent price. i can take out the 8gb ram, upgrade to 2x16gb and also upgrade the nvme to either a 500 gb (2230) / 1tb (2280). i should be able to use both according to a teardown i saw i think, i don't think it'd make sense to have the slots and not be able to use both at the same time? it comes with 256 gb one, i might just keep it and only buy an nvme to use on the remaining slot

anyway i'm looking for reasons not do it. it comes with linux but i'll probably install windows 11 and debian on it. i'm thinking i might just be getting the urge to consoom. my biggest problem with the current notebook is that it can't run windows 11 and i can't get a specific game to run on bottles in linux because the flatpaks seemingly detect only the intel igpu and that's not powerful enough to run it (i gave up trying to make bottles detect the nvidia gpu)

thanks for reading my blog

>>100348128
wait, the 13450hx is an i5 not an i7. i don't think that makes any difference though

which product line do you guys think has better looks? latitudes or thinkpads?

>>100348738
Thinkpads.
Elitebooks look better than both.

>>100348738
Dell Precision M4300

But then the manufacturers started competing with each other for overly thin, fragile, and poorly-cooled machines just like women bickering over who is thinner. Absurd.

>>100339884
Ebay or Amazon, pick your poison.

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>>100281650
I bought a second-hand T14 but when I try to format it the BIOS is protected by a password and I can't change the boot priority to start from my USB.
I called the seller and he has no clue what the password is. Is there a way to bypass this trivially or should I just return it?
if I change the SSD inside will that work?

>>100352605
lolno, return it

>>100352605
>if I change the SSD inside will that work?
you baiting?

>>100313790
8GB in 2024 is rough. also it's soldered so you can't upgrade it on the X1 Carbon.

>>100352661
nope I've no idea. basically it has a SSD with Windows installed right now and I was thinking if I swap the SSD with another one that has Linux preinstalled on it will it boot?
I know I will never be able to change the boot priority without the BIOS password but maybe it can boot whatever disk there is connected to the motherboard?

So what do I watch out for when buying refurb?

>>100352686
It's part of the reason it's cheap, or rather the main reason. 8gb on LTSC is fine for the basic shit it's going to be used for, it's being used for stuff that a Chromebook can do. It's not for myself it's for my gf that's a weakling and she really doesn't like carrying her 4.6lbs Acer with a shitty atom. The X1C7 is pretty damn premium and that hardware in 2.4lbs. She thinks the T14 I have is "big and heavy" too (3.3lbs?) and doesn't care about how slow her current acer is so I went form factor #1 priority. It's also going to apply as a fashion object to her in a way so the thin laptop is a priority.

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>new battery costs as much as the whole machine

>>100353118
probably consider x13 as well, it's lighter than t14 but heavier than x1c

>>100352605
With which camera did you take this pic? It's absolutely wonderful considering the dim room.
Also, what lighting you've got in you room? Looks very comfy.

>>100353550
what in the world are you on about?

Thinking of picking up a minimal spec T480s with 8GB memory, 128GB SSD and 1080p screen @$150 then upgrading it myself, including the screen to a glossy 1440p 500nit display. Total it'll cost me is about $250-$260.
Right now I'm wondering how good the display options are on the T14G1 AMD? I'm tired of using my X230's shitty 768p screen so I'm really looking forward to a good display.

Can anybody else vouch that Dell parts are cheaper than Lenovo? That's been my experience dealing with official service centers from those two directly.

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>>100353420
x230 with 500 cycles :>

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ThinkCat

>>100355334
No I don't think I will

Charging port on my old 'puter broke so I'm getting a think pad. Any recommendations?

Er not recommendations, but rather, comments.

>>100357006
What were you using before?
What were your gripes about it?
What's your budget?
Any must-have features?

>>100357230
A computer
It stopped working
400 or 500 used
Computing

>>100326471
I replaced the screen on my t470s and the reused bezel worked for the most part. On the bottom right where I first separated the bezel the plastic will not connect completely. Which means regardless of how many times i connect it back together it always works its way loose again.
It's functional and I think if I were to buy some adhesive it would be better but it is not perfect.

So how do I know if an ebay machine is good or not to buy, outside of the obvious battery, cpu, ram and whatnot?
I want a t480 but there are several hundred ebay offers and they all look pretty ok except the ones that straight up say some shit don't work

Just bought a Thinkpad for $400. Good price, I think :)

>>100357605
Its a roll of the dice which is part of the fun. My aforementioned t470 was in great condition but the lcd had a bright spot which is why I replaced the screen.
It would have probably been cheaper to just buy a new machine but that is boring.

>>100357702
>It would have probably been cheaper to just buy a new machine
the t480 on ebay are at most $150 though. I highly doubt you'd get a decent new laptop for that price.

>>100357770
its a great deal if you are happy with the machine but if you start buying new batteries, replacement ips panels, new keyboards, and what not it adds up quick.
that is my only point.

Does anybody have any experiences with HP Dragonflies?

Any thoughts on this newer thinkpad model?
Lenovo ThinkPad P16 Gen 1. NVIDIA RTX A1000. Intel Core i5 12600HX, 16GB ram. Numpad. Like $900 though.

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X260 i7-6600U V-PRO 16 GB RAM 128 GB WD SSD
or
T480 i7-8550U 16 GB RAM 256 GB M2 SSD

>>100357377
Buy 8 T60s for a Beowulf cluster.

>>100358181
Whichever one doesn't have a 768p TN screen.

How good of an idea is it to by a t430 that the seller says "boots to bios, no hdd included"?
it's very cheap compared with the other ones that do include hdd and os and shit

What's a powerful enough ThinkPad that I can get for kernel programming (going to need to be able to compile the kernel relatively fast)?

Bonus points for a dedicated GPU (for basic AI work for uni) and decent screen out-of-the-box.

Wanted to use my trusty T420 for this stuff, but it doesn't seem like it can take the load (hehe)

>>100359314
>that I can get for kernel programming
pretty sure anything is good enough for that
>be able to compile the kernel relatively fast
define "relatively fast". My core2duo x61 can compile the linux kernel in like 3h which is incredibly fast for it's age.

>>100359057
sometimes they are stolen and have that bios compusave lock on it and its a bitch to get rid of

>>100359349
I'm taking a course where you need to compile the kernel like a gazillion times in a week, and doing that takes ridiculously long on my T420 compared to my PC at home.

I want something faster than the T420 so that I won't have to kill myself.

Also T420 can't run basic "babby's first AI" models for uni, which sux too I guess

>>100359314
P series, whatever suits your budget.

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Should I more e-waste?
>$35 without shipping
>No charger
>Unknown hdd status

I just got my new Z13 gen 1, regarding battery limits on vantage, is starting at 40% - stopping at 80% a reasonable range for longevity?

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yay or nay?

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>>100355334

>>100357605
Ebay is used Thinkpad heaven, but choosing an older machine like that means you're unlikely to get something pristine. Stick with the newer models and you can get killer value for your money.

How long are you guys able to use the nipple on your thinkpad per day? After a few hours of alternating between my index finger and middle finger they both sting a little when I press on the nipple. I don't think I'm pressing down too hard

>>100361676
The first time I bought a used thinkpad it was a t430 for about $200 and I still love that chunky boy to death. Although I probably spent too much. $120 is an easy yes for me.

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>>100281650
look at my new laptop

>>100363116
I'm very happy about your purchase anon :)

>>100361597
I think people usually do 20/80 but 40/80 is probably better. Id leave it be.

>>100363116
Give it back, D'arquavius.

Got my i7-3612QE, solder balls, stencil, jig.
Now I need a hot air station and some solderin' grease!
May as well order an FHD board for 16:10 and get this X330 build cookin.

>>100363116
> glossy screen
fucking disgusting

>>100362704
Generally speaking if I'm sitting down for a marathon I want proper external peripherals and a dock.

It's more about what tasks you're doing and how efficient you are. For quick stuff where I'm not moving it far, it's fine and I can use it indefinitely. There are tasks it's slower to do with the trackpoint. If I'm on multiple monitors going back and forth, I'll give up immediately and look for a proper mouse and room to swing my arm. Also makes a difference how much you adopt keyboard shortcuts and/or how optimized your tasks are for them. You can avoid a mouse altogether for some stuff. You might also try different trackpoint nubs. If "cat's tongue" or "classic dome" aren't doing it for you, some people swear by "soft rim."

>>100364173
>I go outside and/or my room is full of neon tranny lights
fag

>>100364080
if you've never done reballing or just soldering work in general, you should be mentally prepared to kill your MB, because it will most probably happen

>>100364223
Ah, I'll definitely look for a softer trackpoint then

>>100363116
>not a T series
>glossy screen
>black hands
gtfoh Tyrone and give Eric his laptop back

>>100361065
hard no anon

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>>100281650
so I'm trying to replace the palmrest on my T410 and the screw for the keyboard is royally stripped beyond repair (will not clarify whether or not this is my fault)
how do I get it out?

>>100367884
Spray WD40 around the screw and let it sit overnight. Then get some thin rubber and use that as a barrier between the screw and a screwdriver, and put a lot of pressure and start turning slowly. Pray to any deity that it actually starts to turn.

>>100367884
>>100369317
This. And if that doesn't work, use a screw extractor bit or just drill out the head. There will be enough of the screw (stem) itself to grab with pliers and untwist after you take it apart.

>>100352621
if I change the motherboard with another one that has a different CPU will that work? I could upgrade to a Ryzen 7 pro at the same time. But maybe I'm clueless.

>>100369317
>>100369485
thanks anons

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playing fallout new vegas on x270