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First for 14900k cripple edition

>>100356065
>>MONITOR
>Standout:
>1080p: Asus VG249Q1A
Hey I have this one. What's the difference with the newer Q3A version?

When did anti-rgbfags become the manchildren? There's always a handful of shitters crying about the pretty pc's and battlestations demanding everyone have some sad soulless blank slate as a personal office. Holy fuck, fuck off.

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>>100356065
I just ordered 2 140mm Pure Wings 2 BL083 fans. I will use them as front intake fans, probably around 800 idle and 1300 rpm at CPU load.
I am super autistic about fan noise so hopefully these won't make much noise besides air moving. I have returned fans like P14(not the newest high pwm version) before because motor humming drove me nuts.
If they sound nice I also intent to buy a 120mm Pure Wings 2 BL081 as top exhaust.

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intel finally released a fix for i9 and i7 crashes, it cuts your multithread performance 20% and will be forced on you by the end of may.

>>100356193
>Just spend dozens of dollars extra on eye sore sodomite colors being puked all over your system goy!
No thanks rabbi, I will pass

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shameless small plug
if you are looking to sell one of these gpus or a decent AM4 2nd hand processor...
let me know im looking for both, better if you are in europe

OLED vs IPS for a 1440p 240hz? 800$ OLEDs feel like a bit of a rip-off but they look so good.

>>100356220
>forced
They can't force a bios update to my knowledge. naturally boards being manufactured after that date (or thereabouts) will have this as default.

>>100356250
OLED is flat superior to IPS in every metric for actually looking at the screen.

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>>100356095
Yeah that's fucking brutal, I was expecting something in between the two at least. That's ~5% less performance than that ASUS profile.

>>100356193
A pure white case with all white components.
Easily mogs every single faggy lighting.
Less waste, equal the power.

>>100356278
I know but is it worth the hassle of dealing with burn-in?
Feels like it would significantly change my experience with a computer like forcing pure black elements, removing all icons, taskbars, using only fullscreen browsers etc...

>>100356231
> spaniard
you are absolutely assfucked if you intend to find a decent rig that hasnt been raped for cryptoshittery
en general, estas jodido

>>100356193
get a load of this raging faggot

>>100356195
That fan was designed nearly ten years ago, cancel the order and buy the Silent Wings 4 (120/140mm).
You can order the lower RPM variants if you’re a genuine noise schizo.

>>100356315
>but is it worth the hassle of dealing with burn-in?
Depends on use case really. I think it is as I use my system only for vidya and shitposting here so there isn't hours upon hours in a given day of static content (and my screen has a 3 year burn in warranty). If one is sitting there coding for 8 hours solid then i'd be more hesitant as that is not ideal for oled.

>>100356253
That only applies to system manufacturers (OEM and custom) and motherboard manufacturers, they're not going to force BIOS updates on customers who've already purchased the parts, also those people that have those CPUs and have not been paying attention to the news are fucked

>>100356250
this is why i asked about text clarity last thread
i don't want 4k as 32" is too big. 1440p 27" is the sweet spot, but i don't want to be stuck with shitty text clarity while i'm doing some work

>>100356095
>>100356220
PL2 stock duration is 56 seconds.
System integrators have been shipping these CPUs with 125W PL1 settings because the efficiency gains outweighed the raw performance losses.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/power-draw-and-cooling-14th-gen-intel-core-processors/

>>100356220
the intel experience

it just works™

>>100356308
>overpaying for white GPU
idk mane sounds faggy to me

>>100356330
La esperanza es lo ultimo que se pierde.
Pero si, estoy jodido

what's with this dumb fucking movement against silent cases? did they become outdated when components started bloating up the thermals and power instead of going the efficiency route?
>used to be able to run a full highish end system on 600W psu
>can't open chrome without intelaviv going into 300W+ turbo boost now
or is it just the shill OPs pushing their lgbt glassbox agenda like with the avoid amd gpus bullshit

>>100356250
SW4 are not sold where I live. I can import them from abroad in 3 weeks, but they are also three times more expensive than PW2. Doesn't seem worth it honestly, I would rather try Noctua at that point.
Shadow Wings 2 is the other bequiet variant sold here, but it is 900 rpm with a lot less airflow and static pressure. Pure Wings 2 seems a better choice over that.
Not that many fan options remain at 10-15 dollar range that are not absolute junk.

>>100356475
Fuck I meant to tag
>>100356342

>>100356439
Silent cases don’t sell well compared to mesh + glass side/front panel cases.
Manufacturers chase the money.
be Quiet Silent Base 802 with solid side panels work fine in noise normalized testing.
You’d be targeting sub 30 dBA operating noise with a silent case anyway.

>>100356475
If availability is an issue, you made the right call.
Keep an eye on Scythe Wonder Tornado availability for your region.
It’s a sub-$15 fan that makes the Mugen 6 a respectable air cooler.

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Is going from a GTX 1070 to a RTX 4070 ti super a big jump in performance more then double right

>>100356407
I'll be honest with you nigger
if you actually care about aesthetics but think 100$ didgeridoos is too much then by all means go back to consoles

>>100356528
Check the relative performance chart in the link below.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-1070.c2840

>>100356528
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-1070.c2840
Issa 3.41x speedup according to tpu

>>100356439
I'm more confused about the relative lack of solid side panel cases. Luckily fractal gives the option on a lot of theirs

>>100356565
Never beating the fag allegations

>>100356412
undisputably
consider memory pc upgrading kits: 219 € for cpu+ram+mobo.
still am4 but you got 90% of your upgrade. add 250 more and you also get 6650xt. not great but still comfy for the next 3-4 years, probably.
going for less is risking A LOT due to second hand shit being shit

>>100356594
It is (you) who wants lgtb coloring on your rig. If anyone is a fag it stands to reason its you.

>>100356439
One thing that's genuinely changed is that ~nobody is putting HDDs in their systems now. When the only source of noise is the fans it turns out it's more efficient to run slower fans unobstructed than it is to try to damp the noise (and thus run them faster for a given temperature).
I'd still bat for sealed cases if you're running a bunch of HDDs or maybe if you need it to be super quiet under all regimes. Though both of those uses are generally better served by putting the PC in a different location (NAS/server).

>>100356526
Thanks for the recommendation.
It is also not sold here but I can import from abroad.
The price is similar to noctua nf-a12/nf-a15 after tolls and stuff, 2-3 times more expensive than PW2.
Worth it? I guess I will think that if PW2 sucks.

>>100356704
Wonder Tornado is only worth buying at under $15.

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https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-reportedly-launches-before-rtx-5090
The rumored timing is interesting, I checked and you have to go back to the RTX 2000 series for the last time Nvidia didn't lead the new gen launch with the full fat die (*90 GPU-base) alongside the *80 one depending on how you count the Ti/Titan models, and the GTX 1000 series for the *80 to come out before the Titan version,

anyone got a 14900k on a 280mm AIO?
How does it do?

>>100356500
>dont sell well
dont care, I'm not here for advertisments and sale numbers
>>100356575
that's my main gripe too desu, silent cases just by default had to be not fucking glass, everything now is fucking glass all around and they have the audacity to call it "airflow"
>>100356683
hate this trend too, but even on the most bullshit cases I think they still let you have at least two 3.5" drives
while yeah the hdd is probably the most noticable part from sound, my fractal mini c feels so thick and sturdy, it dampens the higher pitched fan sound to feel and sound duller, I still see it as a win rathet than having a constant draft going through the case but also hearing coil whine and fans

>>100356798
please hurry. I want a new card.

>>100356655
those dont seem bad but im fine with both my ram and mobo
I just suffer of having one of the very first am4 processors so i just need to find a decently priced 5500/5600 and then ill keep lurking for a cheap gpu upgrade from my 970
Im in no hurry but it sucks having to scour the 2nd hand pages

>>100356152
It's for sale for $189 and the 1440p dell monitor in the OP is $10 more.

>>100356798
It makes sense if NVIDIA is allocating GB202 dies to more profitable Quadro & data center SKUs, rumor says the GB202 is an MCM with two GB203 dies packaged together.
It makes sense to maximize profits when Blackwell supply is confirmed to be limited by NVIDIA’s CFO.
https://www.techspot.com/news/101998-nvidia-faces-potential-shortage-next-gen-blackwell-gpus.html

>>100356809
I don't know what to tell you anon. Minimizing obstruction is just quieter than damping for the vast majority of builds. Consumers are picking up on this and buying high airflow cases. They're buying more glass and fewer ODDs too and manufacturers are responding to those demands. Maybe next year black monoliths will be back in fashion (I hope so). FWIW, there's still plenty of them on the market and they're not /that/ much worse temps-wise.

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>>100356809
Fractal define R7

>>100356831
Xtremmedia has 5600x down to 130€.
Only 30€ higher than second-hand and its new.
Price difference is negligible.

>>100356897
well they never were popular or trendy before, just that I wouldn't see
>AVOID SILENT CASES@@@@@
in every OP
>>100356903
yeah, basically the only one
would be nice to have some different choices though, maybe a fucking silent cube with a horizontal tray or dual chamber tower
thank god fractal at least make different sizes of the same case

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>>100356065
Kyute kot

>>100356952
Agreed. "Avoid" is too strong a word because they do have some advantages (including aesthetics if that's your jam). Maybe "use with caution" would be a better way to put it but I doubt the OP will ever see that much nuance.

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>>100356927
Yeah i mentioned before that the price is crazy on 2nd hand processors, its like 150 on fucking amazon and you see people listing them for 120 2nd hand
I will give it another week or so cause i have seen some sold at like 80 but i was too late, however at that price i could see picking them.
Im also stalking a very nice 3060 on the page i use so might as well check for other stuff while im at it.
Anyhow as i said if i haven't found what i wanted in 7-10 days i will just bite the bullet and buy a 5600x new since its the biggest upgrade i could get

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Day 397 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

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>>100357004
also my cat who cares not about my woes of finding a couple pieces for my pc

>>100357054
Don't care, kyute kot

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Why are Intel-Aviv CPUs killing themselves lately? I was thinking 13th gen might be good value for money upgrading from Zen 2 but then the reports came in and they're saying the motherboard vendors let them go like hell to try and impress benchmarkers and now it's causing massive silicon degredation. So now I'm skeptical.

>>100357270
That only really affects i9s, but yeah, I wouldn't upgrade just now anyway.

What's a good motherboard for a 7800x3d? ATX, possibly X670

>>100357439
ASRock Pro RS X670, Taichi X670e, Steel Legend X670

>>100357270
All the global talent is working in Netherlands and Taiwan and Singapore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrME3WiYq4c

>>100357439
B650 LiveMixer
B650M HDV/M.2 (<$125)

>>100356807
Not me but should perform well if you set 250W power limit I think.
280 mm AIO are only a little bit worse than 360 mm ones.
>>100357439
>possibly X670
What is your use case to warrant an X series board? Do you need crapload of pcie lanes? Out of the box, it won't give you any more performance over boards less than half its price.

>>100357439
Budget X670E: ASRock PG Lightning
>black aesthetic
>no disco lights
>can handle any AM5 thrown in it

Please respond >>100355090

>>100356807
13900ks on a 360mm aio here
it runs too hot

>>100357510
Tell us what your current GPU is.
Also at what resolution you play.

>>100357439
Don't buy x670 unless you need the features it offers. AM5 mobo tiers are effectively divided up by the amount of i/o they offer and most B650 boards have enough for typical use cases.

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How the fuck is thermalright’s shit so god damn cheap? Is this the full, uncapped power of Chinese slave labor?

>>100357361
They don't affect i5/i7 SKUs?

Whats the difference between the peerless assasin 120 and the SE variant?

>>100357546
Old Nvidia 770. Have posted about it before.
1080p

>>100357494
It's honestly my first time going with AMD, so I'm not exactly sure how much of an improvement an X670 would be over a B650. I do want to go for a gen 5 ssd down the line though, right now I'd just be using my gen 4s.
>>100357558
I do have quite a lot of usb stuff attached to the back of my current mobo, and while right now I have 3 sata drives, eventually I want to build a nas too

>>100357576
1) They have their own factories
2) They like to copy pasta designs other companies have made so lol their R&D budget is tiny

Got a new monitor, Is 10bpc colors better than 8 bpc? (nvidia control panel)

My scroll wheel was jumping and I read online I had to clean the sensor with electronics cleaner. I didn't want to disassemble the mouse so I just blasted it. The scroll wheel works fine now, not fine, perfect. But now the optical sensor is dirty and it's causing my cursor to jump around when I lift my mouse slightly.
The cleaner I used smells like turpentine and leaves a nasty oily residue.
I'm about to spray the shit out of my mouse with automotive brake cleaner. Should take care of it.

>>100357270
>massive silicon degredation
Here's the thing, it happens out of the box on a portion of i9 cpus so that theory makes zero sense as degradation is a long-term thing
What's happening is that some cpus made by Intel are programmed with too little voltage buffer, and become unstable when running "default" mobo settings that are actually untested undervolts with infinite power/current limits that only exacerbates the issue (from larger vdroop, dropping the cpus into unstable territory)

>>100357591
If am I not mistaken, the issues with stability have only been reported for 13th and 14th gen i9s

>>100357720
Interesting the bottom of the mouse turned into a sticky mess

>>100356903
its really a shame how poor the thermal performance this case has, because it's the last proper case for adults.

i wonder, does AIO and one extra bottom intake fan fix the issue and put it closer to top performers?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s4cfBL

Thank you anon who picked the missing parts, any other recommendations from other anon would be appreciated. Should I go a higher price fan cpu cooler, also is 980 pro 2tb ssd not better than the one in the build(Sky hynix plat)? And how good is the Temps for the Asus TUF 4080 super, or should I go with another brand for the 4080 super

>>100357854
I have molten plastic stuck on my fingers

>>100357720
>>100357854
>>100357900
This is going places

>>100357631
Yeah I would do it.
Should last you for a few years.
>>100357646
>I'm not exactly sure how much of an improvement an X670 would be over a B650
As I said before, non-existent in terms of CPU/memory/GPU etc. performance. Extra power phases theoretically give you higher OC headroom, but probably not for your CPU(for a 7800x3d, OC would require the board to have async eclck support, even than the OC potential of 7800x3d is slim, you usually shouldn't bother)
>gen 5 ssd
For just gaming differences between even Gen3 and Gen5 ssds are negligible. No point in going Gen5 unless you are rich or have work that needs to rapidly read large files.
>>100357861
Your CPU cooler is perfectly fine, no need to waste more money.
There is no reason to spend extra on 980 pro I think
Don't know about 4080 models.

>>100357904
Nah the optical lens melted from the brake cleaner and the mouse is fucked

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>>100357720
You have destroyed your mouse, congratulations, you are a retard.

>>100356193
They became the manchildren when "turn off the light" became too difficult a proposition and they had to rage about the idea of "overpaying" for 75 cents worth of LEDs on a $500+ product

>>100357978
True. Now I can take it apart and try to polish the lens.

>>100358002
I guess lens is made from plastic too and terpentine damaged it. Never use solvents on ABS plastics, only rubbing alcohol is allowed.

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>>100356294
>~5% less performance

>>100357962
>>100357646
Didn't see second half of your post
>usb stuff
You usually have 8 or so usb on the back and 1 or 2 on the front. It's unlikely that you will need more.
>3 sata drives
Pretty sure most B650 boards, aside from small form factor ones maybe, have 4 or more SATA ports, unlikely to be an issue.
>nas
Your future NETWORK ATTACHED storage will probably be in a different, dedicated rack and controlled by Rpi or something. Sata port count of your mobo shouldn't be relevant for this.

>>100358034
The gigabyte results are what everyone should be looking at as that is the future. Just wait for arrowlake my goy!

>>100358025
No the brake cleaner damaged it.
Turpentine just made it dirty, could have washed it with dish cleaner and all would have been well.

>>100358034
Any cinebench gamers in the chat?

Homosexual cock-sucking faggots and genetic failures, why do you need more than 8 cores?

>>100357962
>X670 vs B650
What about simply using multiple m.2 SSDs? Right now I have two of them, and I'm planning on adding a third one to dual boot into Linux
Any specific mobo you'd recommend? I don't need WiFi, though Bluetooth would be useful (and I have only had terrible experiences with usb dongles)

>>100356807
I have a 12700k + 4090 in a custom loop with a 360mm and a 280mm radiators
The 4090 hardly goes over 60C, but the 12700k often reaches 90C on intensive games/tasks

>>100358118
Why do you need more than 2 threads?

>>100356807
13900KS with TG Frame on OG Apex (0A2) - 360 Lianli Performance ran at 69-75 during 1480p game sessions, switched to EK LUX now its at 59-65. You are likely going to be sitting at like 80-95 within (absolutely fucking deranged) thermal limits

>>100356807
for the 14900K, you should always go 360mm, or even 420mm aio if your case can handle it

>>100358122
There are many B650 motherboards with 3 or 4 m2 slots, but I don't know exact details on how many of them cut your bandwidth when used together with more than one busy pcie.
If you can go through mobo manuals to ensure that there is no fuckery with bandwidth, you can buy one of them.
Google "am5 motherboard sheet" and look at the spreadsheet that shows up to find them. I would post the link but mango harvesting forum's spam filter sperged out so I can't post it.
Then check manuals to ensure what I said before doesn't happen.
Just 3 is a bit low, but having many m2s is a legit reason to buy an X series motherboard.

>>100356798
wtf, 80 before 90? what are they doing?

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>>100358118
I don't

>>100358098
games are affected as well
https://youtu.be/OdF5erDRO-c?t=627

>>100357485
holy fuck the dutch language is the ugliest fucking thing i've ever laid my eyes upon

>>100358314
The only explanation is that next gen 80 series is overpriced turd that won't sell well just like this gen. So knowing this, they are dumping it early to cash on clueless streamers and tards that upgrade every gen.

>>100358362
>The only explanation is that next gen 80 series is overpriced turd
yes
>that won't sell well
LOL

>>100357510
asus dual 4070 has lots of coil whine complaints, also you should go for 4070 super

>>100357861
>also is 980 pro 2tb ssd not better than the one in the build(Sky hynix plat)?
The 980 is worse. Hynix is the best nvme out there alongside the 990 pro and the SN850x.
>And how good is the Temps for the Asus TUF 4080 super, or should I go with another brand for the 4080 super
The coolers for the 4080 and 4090 are overbuilt so don’t worry about temps. Anything Asus or MSI is good. The TUF is a medium tier model, it’s not the flagship but it’s not the cheapest. You could fish out the extra hundred or so for the Strix OC but I don’t think it’s worth it.

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>>100358340
>makes it slower than a 13600k

>>100358396
oh it wasn't dual, sorry

>>100356278
oled fonts are awful at 2k thoughever

>>100356528
Yes with dlss especially

>>100356798
I'm glad I bought a 4090 when I did, I'm going to wait until the 5090 launch

>>100358394
I mean they didn't sell well... compared to 4090s and 4070s.
That's why they are shoved early.

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>>100358405
are MSI SSDs like picrel just unimpressive/overpriced vs the rest of the selection? I basically never see them mentioned around here. makes me wonder if they are a pitfall

>>100358355
true

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>>100358521
you could buy a 1TB MSI drive for $27 last summer. it depends on your total budget but if you're trying to be reasonable with money you should just buy whatever is cheap, no need to look at brand too much
you could even buy PCIE3 there is like no difference in FPS in gaming and most other tasks

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>5060 8GB, 5070 12GB
waitsisters...................

>>100358584
i-i-its fine, there no no way anyone n-n-needs more. *sniff*

Is the 4060 still worth the money in 2024?

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>>100358409
>posting TRY channel

>>100358570
Thanks for explaining!

>>100358600
I would say it was never worth it in the first place.

>>100358584
i hate that faggot i wouldn't be surprised if he's a pedophile

>>100358521
Samsung has insane brand power thats why most ppl with more money tend to buy whatever they make (and desu their SSDs are quite good)

>>100358600
no https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/rtx-4060-ti-vs-rx-7700-xt-faceoff-which-midrange-graphics-card-is-superior

>>100358633
Yeah, as in maybe next time anon could TRY and post a real review site and not AMDunboxed.

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>>100358600
depends on how you look at it. it probably has more resale value than most amd cards. and you get dlss3. but for pure fps per dollar, amd cards are better. and as you can see in pic related, 3060Ti from last generation outclasses the 4060. so how could is the 4060 really?
https://bestvaluegpu.com/

>>100358521
>are MSI SSDs like picrel just unimpressive/overpriced vs the rest of the selection?
Yes

>>100358722
Don't ever reply to me again

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I hate that every office chair is so bulky and uncomfortable
I like the chair in my car, I want to get a swivel chair that's just that on a swivel, but it doesn't seem to exist for less than like $5000

>>100358799
Make one, be the change you seek

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>>100358793
TRY and stop me.

>>100358646
>>100358708
>>100358733
Thanks I'll check this. Even though Im inclined for Nvidia just because of PS2 emumation

>>100358821
Posting Irish slags that aren't native to Dublin is not helping your case

>>100358821
fuck off Colin

>>100358570
Lul wut

>>100358584
You don't need more VRAM, just use DLSS if you want to reduce VRAM usage.

>>100358890
Wut?

>>100358733
It's also dependant on country. In my country (Norway) nvidia more or less always has better prices than amd. I think it has to do with nvidia just selling a lot more. Here amd cards are in general overpriced and not worth it.

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>>100356095
What am I looking at here?

1 profile to increase performance for launches / reviews?
1 profile for gimmick marketing?
1 profile to reign in power consumption and bug issues so they don't get sued?

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>build new pc
>build a 6000mhz ddr5
>memories locked at 3000
>friend tells me to activate XMP
>tells him that I did but still at 3000mhz
>decide to check the bios again
>XMP is indeed activated
>check XMP profile
>XMP Profile 1 active
>XMP Profile 1: 3000mhz
>tfw

>>100358957
its dual channel memory, so its 6000mhz

>>100358957
3000x2 is 6000.

>>100358942
>What am I looking at here?
Upcoming power limits being enforced by Intel to tackle the crashing issues.

>1 profile to reign in power consumption and bug issues so they don't get sued?
That is what the baseline and will now be the out of the box experience.

>1 profile to increase performance for launches / reviews?
Performance and extreme are for this, but will have to be manually enabled by the user so more than ever any review that doesn't state what they are using is suspect.

>>100358838
>Dublin
worst ireland

>>100358982
>>100359003
the seller sold me each stick as 6000mhz, but my pc was reporting only 3000mhz with both sticks.

>>100359067
DDR means Double Data Rate.

>>100358982
> dual channel
Wrong terminology. It is Double Data Rate.

>>100359067
What software are you using to get this number, as >>100359079 and >>100359003 are correct.

>>100357612
2 more plates at the top
slightly higher due to that
that's it.

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>>100358957
what does it say in task manager? it should list the correct Mhz there (this is DDR4 3200CL16)

>>100359067
3+3=6 anon

>>100358236
The case I want only allows for a 280, I want to know how well it works on it from someone who has tried it. I already have a 13900 with a 420mm aio.

>>100359172
>>100359098
Task manager and the bios settings, both were showing 3000mhz, after I edited the profile now it reads 6000mhz on both.

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OLEDkings,
MSI MPG 271QRX or Alienware AW2725DF worth it?

>>100359227
https://gamersnexus.net/coolers/new-best-arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-360-280-cpu-cooler-review-benchmarks

>>100358813
How much money does it cost to make a furniture company

>>100359049
as compared to?

>>100359309
A lot more than making a custom seat using one from a car

>>100359311
Belfast.

>>100359345
quit taking the piss

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I still can't decide if I should upgrade while staying on AM4 or build a completely new PC on newer platform.

>>100358799
I feel like thats going to absolutely fuck your back, shoulders and ass, but dont mind me

>>100359381
not worth it yet imo. want to sell my current desktop to my dad and build a new one in two or so more CPU gens

>>100359381
Wait.

>>100359381
If you're willing to drop 200 or 300 extra didgeridoos on future-proofing next upgrades, then go for am5 and never look back.
As a poorfag I'm still chained to am4 but even then I know eventually switch 2 emulation will destroy me.

>>100359381
current cpu?

>>100359381
Just throw a 5700X3D and call it a day for the next 2 gens.

Opininos on this case were appreciated.
>>100359415
>never look back
Yes, until next year and the next best thing
>>100359417
R5 2600 on a pcie3 motherboard

>>100359442
Maybe get a $100 5600. It's a huge upgrade but doesn't damage you much financially.

>>100359419
Yes, this CPU is in my "favorites" on marketplace.
x3d+new RAM sticks.

>>100359459
The x3d chips - due to their cache - are not as sensitive to ram speeds as other ryzen chips. What ram are you using?

>>100359494
2x8 Samsungs at 3000mhz. Recently, I wanted to have at least 32 to help with local language models.

>>100359442
I dont know, anon.
You think amd is going to go for a different socket in a couple gens? it might be, they are insane, but I dont think so
cant say much because given the circumstance if I wanna upgrade I'd better go whole hog and get a new pc as I'd have to get new psu and gpu besides the cpu

>>100359555
I just like how my reliable 5 years old PC works and don't want to get rid my best friend. I wonder what modern GPU can be squeezed into my 550w PSU. RTX4060? Heard it's shit.

>>100359555
>You think amd is going to go for a different socket in a couple gens?
Am4 lasted for 3 architectures and got praised to hell and back for that, is 2 architectures really that much of a drop?

Is there a comprehensive guide to Chinese water cooling parts?

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>be me
>suddenly feel curious about my bios
>its from 6 years ago (going on 7)
>i should update it!
>cant update it right away
>have to update it twice to intermediate versions before updating to the lastest
You know what? i think im fine

I just like the cute cat in pc pics itt, my cat too likes to try and sneak in when I'm working on mine. they can sense something magic in the pc

>>100359625
I'm not saying its going to get ganked next year.
What I do say, however, is that I wouldnt be surprised if AMD chooses to jewmaxxx in the next 2-3 years.
>>100359574
4060 or amd 6650 per newegg supply calculator.
which makes me realize I dont need more than 700 for a mid tier pc, thank fuck

>>100359691
Yeah if you don't need some new feature or function then updating a working BIOS is pointless.

Had my PC for 3 years now. The AS ROCK motherboard seems to have died according to the Chinese computer store I let diagnose the failure and the Samsung 980 SSD is also having some problems. Is there any way I could get those warrantied if I bought them as part of a custom build in the first place or is this kind of an acceptable failure rate on PC parts that these manufacturers will laugh at me for?

>>100359776
If your PC was built by a shop, they usually offer one year warranty unless you pay for a longer service period.
If you bought the parts separately to build your PC, board and SSD warranty is usually three years. Some Samsung SSD have longer warranty.

>>100359831
It says the samsung warranty is 5 years on the website but if I got the ssd from a third party new built into my PC it's void? That sucks! Turns out the issue with the SSD is a common issue with their old 2021 firmware that was fixed in 2022 but I never heard about it.

Are mechanical keyboards worth it? (never used one)

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day 300 of waiting for battlemage

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Any opinions on the Koorui 27E3QK? Looks like a rebrand from the HKC VG273QK, 1440p 240hz fast IPS.

Asking because it's 300€ in EU right now which is usually the price for a 144-170hz 1440p monitor (Dell G2724D is 300€+).
M27Q-X is 400€ and the LG 27GR83Q is 450€ and basically unavailable.

Reviews with measurements seem pretty good, if they're to be believed it performs like the M27Q-X with a little more overshoot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0QcQMDUtNM (turn on subs)
https://youtu.be/brEQ0tPgyh4?si=AR1tLRh4DKagc6N5&t=203

>>100359776
>assrock motherboard
>overheatsung ssd

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>>100360015
Judging me for generic purchases I made as a gaming computer newbie in 2021 before any issues were known is not productive

>>100360015
always better than Asus/Gigabyte/MSI

>>100357994
^

>brand loyalty
i just buy the one with the best vrms and features for the money I'm willing to spend

>>100359954
Weeeeeeeeeeellllllllll no if you just want to something that works. Yes if you want a lets say luxury experience. I think the respectable ones are (generally) worth it for heavy use scenarios as ultimately you are going to be clicky clacking a lot. If you are only using your computer sporadically then meh really.

Note that developing keyboard autism is dangerous to your wellbeing as well as financial stability and should be avoided.

>>100359369
>north korea best korea
>northern ireland best ireland
The facts are very clear anon.

>>100360083
why do we hate gigabyte again?

>>100360180
I don't, they're mobos are great.

>>100360109
I will be using it mostly for gaming or work related 3d rendering most of my work is done on laptop so I doubt I'll need it. Even more so with that warning at the end kek

>>100360180
I think it's a smear campagin. They used to be one of the most popular brands just a few years ago, but I guess other companies have paid shills to talk down the company.
Just look at review sites on AMD cards for example, there's been a huge smear campagin against AMD too, most likely paid behind the scene by nvidia. It's pretty disgusting, but seems to be pretty normal in the technology scene. I guess pajeet and seanigger shills are cheap enough to do it.

intel has shat the bed so hard its broken with shit all over
ayyymd decided to an hero
so... im stuck with nvidia jewery forever if I want a gpu?
hell. at least jrpgs run on potatoes.

>>100360337
Meds first and foremost. Buy the GPU that fits your usecase and budget.

Anyone know why the 32 inch 4k qd-oled monitors are so fucking expensive? The least expensive msi one in europe is still 1420 euros.

>>100360774
Dell does a lot of regional pricing so sometimes their model is the cheapest. I'm not in the EU but for me the dell model was massively cheaper than all the others.

>>100360316
It’s not a smear campaign against Gigabyte.
They make decent boards and that’s pretty much it.
Their video cards generally tend to run louder than it needs to, given the cooler dimensions (check TPU reviews).
Select Gigabyte 3080/Ti SKUs die more often (Vision), behind EVGA FTW3s.

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HOW THE FUCK IS INTEL STILL WINNING???

i got a new pc with fractal torrent compact case and in some occasions the fans go off at full speed and it sound like my pc sexually identifies as a helicopter. i know this isn't a silent case but i don't get why it gets so loud when the OS starts (not the boot, just the startup) or on some other uncalled for occasions, i haven't even played a game yet and my new pc is very strong it has no reason to struggle like this

what would be a good fan curve to manually set to avoid this?

>>100360774
oled is pretty much a duopoly between samsung and lg

>>100360337
buy a 4070 super, we made a lot of these and we need to sell them before the ps5 pro comes out

Is there any point in buying a 13600k instead of a cheaper 13600KF if I'm buying a graphics card as well?
Does it work like with laptops where some stuff goes to the integrated graphics and other, more demanding stuff goes to the dedicated gpu?

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>>100359964
just two months away from 1 year anniversary

>>100361111
Intel desktop chips are still "good enough" for major computer manufacturers to purchase.
AMD doesn't have the foundry capacity to fulfill that large market.
Intel needs to win more mobile business with Lunar Lake.
AMD was budget-constrained to develop power-efficient mobile chips until the past five years or so.
The lucrative contracts are in laptops.

>>100361186
>what would be a good fan curve to manually set to avoid this?
Set the spin up delay to 20 seconds to avoid fan pulsing. Usually what is happening is the cpu is suddenly going full throttle for a very short time period (then returning to idle) and the fans respond accordingly. Setting a delay can avoid this by just letting your cooler soak for the 20 seconds or so and then the fans will ramp if the workload is sustained. Of course you could also look into what is causing the cpu to fire on all cylinders as well.

>>100361280
>s there any point in buying a 13600k instead of a cheaper 13600KF if I'm buying a graphics card as well?
An igpu is handy for trouble shooting and worst case still having a working system should the dedicated gpu explode or something.

>Does it work like with laptops where some stuff goes to the integrated graphics and other, more demanding stuff goes to the dedicated gpu?
Not inherently, though Intel's quicksync can be used to accelerate certain tasks.

>>100361280
>Is there any point in buying a 13600k instead of a cheaper 13600KF if I'm buying a graphics card as well?
The iGPU is useful if your video card dies and you have no backup card to troubleshoot the system.
Some users also like to connect their extra display(s) to the iGPU instead of the video card.

>>100361368
i don't think the cpu is on fire because i hear nothing from it's cooler (phantom spirit). it's a new pc and instead of using thermal paste it's using a thermal pad (kryosheet) but i don't think this is relevant

isn't 20 sec delay too much? don't want to risk anything

>>100359382
Works for truckers

>>100361406
>>100361429
thanks anons

https://wccftech.com/intel-battlemage-xe2-gpus-on-hold-celestial-xe3-gpus-might-delayed-too/

Who's gonna break the news to battlemagebro?

>>100361470
>i don't think the cpu is on fire because i hear nothing from it's cooler
Well by default cpu temps is what all case fans respond to and by extension the cooler fans as well. If it is just the case fans look into the bios and see what their fan curve is then - it might be set very aggressively but I can't know that from here.

>isn't 20 sec delay too much? don't want to risk anything
For anything that can be cooled by the phantom spirit 20 seconds isn't enough to heat soak in that time.

>>100361705
>its over. battlemage is delayed
>the source: twitter post from an anime pedo with 12 likes

>>100361705
Intel has spent what, 15 years having a crack at this and still keeps getting it wrong?

>>100361743
i just checked and bring my cpu to 25% capacity is enough the get the case fans into liftoff mode, it's something with the fan curve it's adjusted too hard. i need something more reasonable to put it

>>100360083
Gigabyte < Asus < MSI. I have no idea why people are still buying Gigabyte, all I hear is negativity.

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>MSI no longer associated with AMD Radeon RX 7000 series GPUs
>MSI rumored to no longer be a board partner for Radeon GPUs
What are the implications of this news so soon after the report of Radeon GPUs not selling?

>>100361754
Even Intel's board partners seem to have no idea what's going on with it, they should've gotten engineering samples at the very least.
Launch batches of Battlemage cards need to be fully assembled by the end of August if Intel's targeting a Q4 '24 (pre-Black Friday) release.

>>100361886
MSI was the first to jump on the GPP bandwagon unleashing their armor series on the world, you really think AMD has kept them close since then?

>>100356065
What does /pcbg/ think about small form factor systems?

>>100361886
Most people who buy AMD Radeon cards buy exclusive partner models like Sapphire, PowerColor, or XFX.
MSI doesn't think it's worth competing for leftovers against ASUS & Gigabyte.

>>100356368
> 32" is too big
No, it's not. Maybe for Japanese who live in a tiny capsule or Mutts who live in a trailer home but not for people who own a generously sized desk. I got used to it in no time and I don't feel the wish to go back any smaller. I was rather underwhelmed when I ordered a 27" 1440p for my vacation home and sat in front of it. 32" is the perfect size for 4k and allows to comfortably lean back in muh gayming chair instead of with my nose almost bumping into the display. Of course it comes cheaper to have a different opinion...

>>100361975
It's fine if the SFF PC specs meet your needs & it runs relatively cool & quiet.
It's not the most cost-efficient build starting with the ITX board prices.

>>100356308
Your gf must be very impressed with the aesthetics of your PC's bowels. Saves you the gym.

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>>100361743
>>100361774
this is the fan curve i have right now, i think the people on the shop who assembled this pc gave it a very aggressive curve to test it. and like i said it kicks off to hell at 20%. how should i adjust it?

>>100362138
Just click on the normal button and it will likely flatten out a bit.

I like both performance and aesthetics but from the nonstop squealing from anti-rgb manchildren, I may just get the Vision and put my 4090 in it

>>100362173
is there a way to separate toe case fan curve from the cpu one? the case is significantly more loud

>>100361975
Can look AMAZING aesthetically but the tedium of building it, limited pcie of small motherboards and how it limits your future upgrade options make it not worth it for me.

Do you want a delay for fan ramp up/down on the CPU fan at all? Or should you keep that to the lowest values while you put a delay on case fans instead?

>>100361975
It's for hipsters who think it's cool to have a tiny compooter, no real advantages.

>>100362327
I'm not familiar with the gigabyte software but just looking at the pic from the drop down in the middle (above the mobo pic) select your case fans and set them to normal or silent.

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>>100358034
>>100358340
Dumbest nigger in the thread. Let me break it down for you, just to let you know how fucking retarded you are.
He >>100358098 was making fun of you, you fucking autist that can't read social cues.
The gaming is ~-5% with the Asus profile and another ~-5% from that with Gigabyte, as said by >>100356294 for a total ~-10%. But I'll let you get back to your Cinebench games.

>>100362437
Shalom.

>>100362408
just checked, there is system 1-4 which are at 0rpm and the is cpu OPT which is just a monitor of the system temp

>>100362437
Still not buying a 14900KYS.

>>100362514
>>100362528
He says, posting Cinebench numbers. Userbenchmark next? You fucking retard.

>>100356798
>kopite7kimi farts three words about Nvidia once every month between two Formula 1 tweets.
>Videocardz writes a full article on it
>MLID and RGT make four hour long videos on it

>>100354090
raytracing is the holy grail of graphics, people have this fucking unhinged recency bias being unimpressed with how far technology has come, is it perfect, no but it's leaps and bounds ahead of what we've had in the past

>>100362634
And yet nobody cares because they'd just rather have more frames

>>100356231
Im that anon
Anything i should know about Ryzen 7 2700?
While i can't find a 5600x to save my life i have just found several 2700 at very good prices.
I understand i have to update the bios on my mobo but thats not a problem.
So yeah any reason i shouldnt pick one of those over my 6 year old ryzen 1600?
Thank you

>>100362830
Ryzen started to really kick off starting with the 3000 and 5000 CPUs.

>>100362533
see >>100358340

>>100356231
I can sell a 5600 and a 6600 but I'm in South America xd.

>>100362899
See >>100362437

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I remember when 8 out of the top 10 best seller cpu from newegg was amd 1-2 years ago. today, it flipped backed back. now 7 out of the top 10 is intel

>>100362685
This, even with Nvidia you're still throwing away half of your frames just so that the skirting boards are reflecting light more precisely.

>>100362935
am5 just isn't worth it yet

>>100362935
What is the point of -600K i5s? the -400 ones are substantially cheaper while being like 95% as good for gaymes.

>>100362941
much immersion, much wow, frames no matter, buy 4070 super

It is if you're a Microcenter chad.

>>100362634
Can't wait to put my pre-order for a 5090 since my 4090 moans like a whore under load when path tracing cybberjunk.

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>>100362935
You know its bad when microcenter is having a fire sale on its already discounted amd combos. Amds are just not worth keeping in inventory.

>>100363020
I remember back when shit like idTech4 and UE3 first came out and it looked absurdly better than what we previously had, which was actually 90% just lighting improvements, except those engines also ran just fine on mediocre hardware at the time. Ray tracing makes a barely noticeable difference, I remember when Jensen did his first "RTX on" presentation nothing actually looked better, the light and the shadows just looked slightly different. The one game that has actually managed to look impressive is Cyberpunk, but at a massive performance cost.

>>100363040
Clearing stock for AM5. Also paying that little for the 7800X3D bundle is absolutely fucking nuts, I got mine for $470 a while ago and muh gaymz run great now.

>>100363103
for Ryzen 5*

>>100357439
AsRock B650 Steel Legend WiFi white/silver refresh. At 180 USD it's the best included WiFi ATX board until you hit around 250 USD.

>>100362830
Please any input, im seeing the 5600x at like 110€ while i can probably get a 2700 for 30€
Any reason i shouldn't?

>>100363073
Ray tracing was here FOR REALS when the 2080ti launched.
Sorry woops I misspoke, I mean when the 3090 launched.
Oh shit sorry I was wrong there, what I ACTUALLY meant was when the 4090 launched.

How many anons can spot the pattern?

>>100363040
Now post the intel bundles lol

>>100362830
>>100363189
The 2700 is 2 generations older than the 5600 and has substantially worse single thread performance. If you're gayming, go for the 5600.

>>100361886
MSI's models in both the RTX 40 series and RX 7000 series have been extremely underwhelming compared to other models with the sole exception of their AIO Suprim model.

>>100363226
I think MSI sucks at everything other than PSUs desu. They are known for cheaping out on everything but for some reason their PSUs are actually decent in quality.

>>100362634
And yet everyone is in agreement that its barely noticeable outside of cyberpunk, that game that took a year to be playable.

If you are like that 5 IQ retard from last thread crying about the "direction of the industry", nobody fucking cares. No game has longevity because the graphics are appealing. All long lasting games are games are build on a foundation of incentive and gameplay and if that's not what you're in the market for go fuck yourself. *Shiny* new graphics is the most superficial possible selling point of games and among the primary reasons that the industry has been a veritable wasteland of good products for the last decade. Eat shit

I don’t know where else to ask this and I’m at the end of my patience, I just got a new PC (nothing crazy) and I’m trying to play Total War and everytime I press play on the launcher nothing happens and steam shows the game isn’t playing, when I try to run the .exe file from the game folder I get a VCRUNTIME140_1.dll error even though I’ve updated my drivers and uninstalled and reinstalled windowsC++. the part that makes no sense is when I try to run the launcher it gives me an error that I’m running a 32bit OS even though the computer specs show W10 pro and 64bit. the fuck can I do to fix this

>>100363235
kek that's because they contract those out to actual reputable companies

>>100363176
The 2000 series was just a die shrink. Expect around 10% improvement in games (obviously more in work from the extra cores). I guess you could do a lot worse for €30 but you're not really going to feel it either.
Look for used prices on the 3600 and other Zen2 chips. In my country there's a huge glut of them from people upgrading to X3Ds.
Alternatively, just keep saving for the 5600(X) since it's legitimately good and not some ultra budget compromise. Saving €100 should not be difficult.

>>100363267
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/visual-c-redistributable-runtime-package-all-in-one/

You're probably missing one of the various redists. This is an all-in-one that will nab them all.

>>100363226
MSI Suprim X (aircooled) was one of the most sought after 4090 SKU because of its build quality and price ($1750).
You couldn’t find it in stock until recently.
The only better card is the $2000 Strix.

I can feel arrowlake coming from the horizon

>>100362685
>>100362941
>>100363240
then you might as well play at 1080p or 1440p and not blow thousands of dollars on graphics cards that make noise and add hundreds of watts of heat which is physically uncomfortable

>>100363235
They had a succession of good all-rounder AM4 boards and their Gaming X cards were really good value IF you got lucky with the heatpipe thing. They've gone downhill since the CEO was suicided but these things always come in cycles. Like how (fucking) ASRock is your best bet for AM5.

>>100363319
will try this, thanks. im trying to play a 9 year old game on a brand new PC, it shouldnt be so damn hard

>>100363364
>anon can feel failure
oh wise sa/g/e of the thread tell me so - will this be the year of the linux desktop?

>>100363220
>>100363312
i kept looking and just found a 50€ 5600g
while i understand that an x would have been better this one was a rarity in a sea of 90-100€ cpus. It also seems to have literally never been mounted.
So i caved.
I appreciate the help.

>>100362909
i just found the processor, its probably not worth for us to discuss price over a 6600 with all the delivery time too, ill just keep lloking over here, but i appreciate the thought.

>>100363386
>MSI
>good all-rounder AM4 boards
lol, you're joking right? There was a huge issue with B550 boards from MSI a year ago being completely fucked from the factory, specifically the Pro line

>>100363411
It's not terrible. Basically on par with the 3600 so €50 is about where it should be. I got £50 for my own 3600 when I sold it.

>>100363319
I could fucking kiss you right now, thank you based anon. I should have come here first you have a fantastic fucking day

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>>100363407
>Another AMD COPE
Intel survived amd's node advantage with their architectural advantage. But once arrowlake launched, AMD will lose it's only advantage. Arrowlake= better architecture + better node = AMD bankruptcy

>>100363456
Better late than never I guess. So tell me anon, what IS the hype around sapphire rapids?

>>100363430
I'm talking feature/price balance not QC. Also, "a year ago" is 3 years after the CEO died and things went to shit.

>>100363443
I have mentioned it before but there are very few 5600 2hand in offer (at least on the pages im checking) and fairly expensive, im talking 80% amazon price and shit like that.
This one seems like an oddity even when i would have preferred a 5600x. and again going by the profile and the pics it might have never been mounted, we ll see.
Now im stalking a couple gpus

i have a 5120x1440 120hz monitor and a 5900x. i know the cpu will be a bottleneck but should i get a 4090 or wait for the 5090 and then upgrade my cpu later next gen?

I installed two new fans on my cpu heat sink, connected them both to a split and then to the motherboard.

first time I started the pc it said "cpu fan error". but both of them were spinning.
I set the error message to ignore in the bios settings so that I could start windows normally.

everything is running fine and they perform better than my old fans, now should I be worried about the error message?

>>100363566
What kind of fans did you use? You should just be able to daisy chain them with anything from the last 3 or so years, no?

>>100363541
Your CPU will be a pretty minor bottleneck at that res. Not ideal but not worth replacing the whole platform over either. I guess the main reason not to do it would be because the 5080/5090 are ~6mos out and it sounds like you already have a pretty decent rig.

>>100363541
5090 and 9800X3D should be out around the same time, may as well just save money to do a full platform upgrade.

>>100363456
AMD have the architectural advantage. Intel's * Cove architecture is heavily bloated and has about 2x the transistor count of whatever the competing Zen core is, which has crippled Intel's ability to scale up core counts for years now. Reminder that Ryzen 1000 and 2000 still used inferior nodes to Intel.

>>100363576
my old ones were Gelid Solutions Glacier RGB.
replaced them with Thermalright TL-B12

>>100356065
>ASRock B650 LiveMixer
Somebody tell the schizo to stop making these threads and shilling this niggerlicious trash

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>>100363456
>just 2 more weeks
Wake me up when Intel CPUs stop fucking burning themselves to death sucking a gazillion watts of power and degrading like shit then I'll consider them again. Their CPUs literally don't fucking work as they should/are not up to spec on top of having bloat like Management Engine. You had the 9900K and then some value options again with 13600K/13700K but that was pretty much it.

Intel better fucking deliver instead of throwing fits of impotent rage at their partners and competitors. I don't give a shit if they have a guaranteed safety net as a military contractor or have "financial horsepower" with sales reps in the laptop and prebuilt sectors. So far it's been disappointment after disappointment since Zen 2 until Zen 4 (until price cuts mostly neutralized their advantage again).

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>>100356065
My build
b650 livemixer working good.

>>100363566
It's probably getting a garbled tach signal. Test your load temps to see if everything runs okay. If you want to keep the fan protection function then consider using different headers. You can run the same curve on both to get the same effect as a splitter.

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>>100363444
not the anon that helped you but im always happy about a success like this

>>100363586
>>100363596
thanks anons
i’ll just keep waiting

>>100363624
They're probably going off Bullzoid's recommendations for AM5 motherboards. This one was the step above the ASRock B650M HDV/M.2 I believe.

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>>100363607
>AMD have the architectural advantage
you're beyond lost. Intel 7nm 6 Cores (12400) is 40% more efficient compared to AMD 7nm 6 Core (5600x).

https://www.igorslab.de/en/intel-core-i5-12400-review-efficient-and-cheap-gaming-cpu-for-the-masses-with-way-too-expensive-motherboards-part-1/11/

>>100363610
4-pin PWM fan with adapter for daisy-chaining huh. No idea then. Just leave that one setting disabled I guess if temps seem fine.

>>100363624
How about you fuck off

>>100363642
cpu is at 37°C - 43°C when idle. which is way better than with my old fans.

>fan protection function
whats that?

>>100363684
>Non-K SKU is more efficient than K (which is still slightly worse than AMD)
No shit. Retard or shill?

>>100363750
You'll also note the 5600 is excluded from those numbers. Curious.

>>100363703
It's the thing that threw an error when you connected the fans. Back in the day having a CPU fan die on your would often cook the chip so motherboards had a killswitch in the event of a failure. My guess is your splitter is sending a dodgy tach signal which the board is interpreting as a dead/broken fan. Modern CPUs will reduce their power in the event of overheating (and turn off altogether if it's really bad) so it's not a necessary feature any more but you might want it for peace of mind.

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>>100363750
You're the retarded one. 12400 has no E core and is pure P cores. 12600K has extra 4 e cores so its can't be directly be compared to 5600x

>>100363800
It only serves the intel shill to compare apples and oranges.

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>>100363641
based minmaxer. We have the opposite philosophy when it comes to CPU/GPU combos kek

>>100363817
Like they will contribute to gaming frames at all.

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Its over for AMD. Intel 10nm is better than its competition. Intel 2nm in 2024 > Amd 2nm in 2028

>>100356220
>intel finally released a fix for i9 and i7 crashes
i updated to the recent bios for gigabyte and it's still crashing lol

>>100363856
They do - negatively. Unless you use W11/lasso.

>>100363967
why wouldn't you use windows 11 tard

retarded question:
I have a corsair RM850-something
It has an inrush current bypass relay that makes a click sound on power up and off. The thing is, before it clicks, fans start spinning,then stop as it clicks, and then spin as normal.
Is that normal?
>click powerbutton
>fans start spinning
>relay clicks - same time fans stop spinning
>fans spin back up
been using the PC for months without issue, but it's something that I've been wondering about on and off
thank you

>>100363684
Your pic is proving his point anon. Limit efficiency is mostly a node thing and, yes, Intel 7 is denser than TSMC N7. The 12400 being clocked so low also helps it.

If I'm not that picky and just want a good, up-to-date gaming tier pc that can run most programs and games smoothly, is it better for me to just buy a prebuilt pc?

>>100363926
it's probably too early to be implemented, but you can try to set the values manually (or just select the "intel baseline" profile, it should already be available on some gigabyte boards)

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>>100363858
AMD retards will regret buying into am5 "future upgrade" meme. There's no point in doing that if the upgrade is garbage compared to Intel arrowlake (2nm) and beyond. Once zen6 on 3nm is out intel will already be on 1.4nm.

everyone should install 24h2 its the best gaming windows yet
23h2 has chrome flickering and dwm crashes

>>100364035
basically everyone here is anti-prebuilt for a long list of reasons. modern pc building is not that far off building legos anyway. if you post your country and budget anons would gladly help you find a rig that meets your needs, which will ultimately be cheaper than a prebuilt

>>100363983
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>>100364035
That's going to hinge on your own definition of "better". Prebuilts have the advantages of single-point warranty/aftercare and no assembly but they cost more, have limited customization, and often cut corners on important components. That's the best case - in the worst case they're literal garbage; not fit for purpose.
This being the PC /building/ general you won't find much love for prebuilts but at the end of the day it's up to you and your preferences.

>>100364035
You are likely to be fine if you really are not tech savvy and can't be arsed to build a PC, but you should know that you will waste money, and that prebuilts also tend to come with shitty PSUs.
Just ask a friend or relative to help you out or something.

>>100364035
Only the elderly and women in general should get prebuilts, anyone else should just put together their own build.

>>100362437
>>100362533
meds.

>>100364035
No it’s a terrible value. Building a PC is literally connecting 6 parts.

>>100364255
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>>100363803
I see, thanks for the tipp

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so much intel cope itt. Delicious.

>>100363840
Based 3060. Gonna upgrade to 9800x3d. I suppose you do more cpu intensive work, and it's better for multitasking.

Best budget case for pure air cooling? I'm currently eyeing the Lancool 216.

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