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First for IntLEL

>>100364051
This man is delusional

>>100364272
lol

>>100364272
>samefagging
AMJeets are desperate!!

>>100364255
>Avoid NH-U12A cooler
Why is that? I've had one for about 3 years and I've never seen any issues with it. Thermals are always fine and it's quiet.

Any resources available for learning how to properly undervolt my GPU? I'm currently using a Radeon RX 7900xtx and I can see the options but I don't want to fumble it

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>>100364272

thoughts on asus monitors?

> 7800x3d
> phantom spirit cpu cooler
> 45 celsuis on idle desktop
> it's brand new

is this reasonable? seems too much, i set fan curve to silent to reduce noise but still seems unreasonable

>>100364272
ok I keked

>>100364335
Undervolting is easy modo as if it is unstable the driver just crashes and resets to stock. I would suggest just using the auto undervolt option for a pretty reliable undervolt and see what value that spits out (I would wager around 1120mv) and if you want to push it further manually start from that value and creep it down 5mv at a time until the gpu can't stay stable under a stress test.

My XTX ships with 1150mv stock
Auto undervolt gives me 1125mv
Manual tuning I have 1115mv. I have run 1100mv in the past buuuuuut i'm not 100% sure that is stable without further testing.

>>100364410
>Fans spinning at like 300RPM
>45C
That's good.

>>100364410
Nah that is fine - the extra cache acts as an insulator so relative to traditional cpus they run hotter.

Hey guys, I have an AMD CPU and ASUS mobo and lately my CPU fan's LED has been acting weird. It will very rarely flicker on and off. I wanna stress that it seems to be the LEDs and not the fan itself. Everything in the PC runs fine, I've had 0 problems and I've detected no problems in performance or anything.
Should I be worried at all or is the fan's LEDs just dying out?

>>100364410
>set fan curve to silent
you are supposed to tune it manually, 45c is normal

>>100364437
they're spinning at 831. i'm the fractal torrent compact guy from the previous thread i change the curve to silent because i had a rocket launcher at home and it's still pretty bad when i boot it gets to 70 celsuis and 100% fan operation

>>100364410
It's normal, I have the same chip and it idles in the 40s, though I live in a hot place. Rarely breaks 70C on full loads.

kill loomine

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>AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core
>32GB RAM
>RTX 3080
>ASUS ROG Strix B550-F

My current setup that I'm using for 4 years now. Anything to upgrade already to make an significant boost in performance? Talking about 4k gaming of course.. new Flight Sim coming this year

>>100364427
Yeah mine just went to 1125 with auto undervolt, glad to know the presets aren't horrible. Thanks

>>100364453

flicker can come with wrong led voltage, can not remember whether too high or low

>>100364335
You probably have to resort to Ancient Gameplays for Radeon undervolting guides.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH9NGfZKU9I

>>100364475
Eh that's not technically as good but well within expected range. Especially if you have a few background tasks or light loads running. Honestly you shouldn't worry about idle temps unless they're super high or low. Also fans spinning to 100% during boot is normal too. Part of the self test procedure though some boards omit it nowadays.

>>100364518
5700x3d if you don't have anything else to spend money on

how realistic is it to have a pc that will pretty much last your lifetime?

>>100364586
perfectly realistic, I mean what's stopping you from using a commodore64 right now?

>>100364453
>Should I be worried at all
No. If the fans spin up and down as they should that is all that matters.

>>100364518
5800x3d/5700x3d if sticking to AM4, if not go all-in on the 7800x3d. Not sure how ram hungry flight sims are these days so you'd have to go ask those in the know.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/amd-5800x3d-performance/510937

>>100364586
We'll discover cold fusion first.

>>100364586
0

>>100364297
AMDumbs are just scared that their trust in lisa will be in shambles

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>>100364549
the only reason i truly care is because the case fans go off and they're LOUD when at 100%. some anon suggested i configure them to 20 seconds delay and i'm considering that too but i'm afraid it will have some undesirable effects when i'll truly be under load

look at the pic it's 50% fan power and i'm not doing anything besides one tab on firefox

>>100364518
I would only upgrade to a X3D chip as the other anon said, your GPU is still plenty powerful and should hold on at 4k with DLSS and reasonable settings.

>>100364255
What a fucking eyesore.
Having this abomination on the desk would be annoying to use PC.

>>100364605
Program a more relaxed curve, cap them at <100%, or run them flat. Any one of those, plus some hysteresis, would fix your issue. Doesn't have to be 20s either - a delay of even 1s will smooth out 90% of those "load spike" temp swings. Honestly this is something everyone with aftermarket cooling should do immediately. You paid for all that metal - use it.

Are fan curves a universal thing or do different CPUs like different ranges. I'm using a ryzen 5 7600 at the moment but I've just been using the presets

>>100364553
>>100364598
>>100364617
thanks arigato. new chip it is

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Are there any common problems with portable monitors that nobody talks about?
I needed something with high portability because of where I'm using my PC, and my conclusion is that a portable monitor would be the best solution, since my physical space is limited and a normal monitor, even a small one, will get in my way significantly. But I never see anyone talking about portable monitors as a solution for anything other than specific cases like using a fucking smartphone on a screen or things like that.
Any suggestions?
Thank you.

>>100364255
>tranime

>>100364255
wheres the cat

>>100364705
Maybe she is a catgirl.

>>100364678
>Program a more relaxed curve
such as? i don't want to pull curves out my ass i need something well planned

>You paid for all that metal - use it
that's what i'm here for. appreciate the help

>>100364586
For what purpose?
Gaming? Years (single-digit) may or may not be viable, decades just won't be.

I just took the 4k pill, now what

>>100364657
it looks like it smells of autism and virginity

>>100364742
hrt

>>100364764
why

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I don't kno if it's offtopic but I don't want to make a thread for that.
What's a good mousepad? I'm still using an old magazine like a retard

>>100364689
With AMD it's all preference. Do what sounds good to you and doesn't compromise performance too much. Intel has slightly less dynamic boost behaviour so you're a little more restricted but not meaningfully.

>>100364727
>i don't want to pull curves out my ass i need something well planned
Too bad. There's no substitute for iterative testing with your own ears and hardware. There's multiple interlocking variables here and trial and error is a hell of a lot cheaper/faster than doing the necessary CFD to produce an "optimal" curve.
For a start, consider a 1s step time plus fans capped at 80%. As long as your burn test doesn't reach 90C you won't be throttling so tune it down from there if you like.

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>700 Watts
do amkeks really?

>>100364772
Xenestrogens and other endocrine disruptors in food and consumer products are lowering your testosterone levels. Get on a cycle of test+deca to counteract that and leave humanity behind.

>>100364822
UNLIMITED POWER!!!!

>>100364255
Will Ryzen 9 5950x work in MSI X370 GAMING PRO CARBON?

>>100364822
>if you feed 700W to a $900 card it can match a $1700 card
What is the point of this? Are you planning to see if you can feed 700W to a 4080?

>>100364822
>put together intel cpu + amd gpu build
>turn it on
>the entire neighborhood gets a brownout
>start gaming
>power grid shuts down
take that nvidia

>>100364803
>For a start, consider a 1s step time plus fans capped at 80%

how about the gpu, psu and SSDs? they're affected by the case cooling too

my psu is coolermaster v850i gold and since it has a loud fan curve by default i've changed it to silent, gpu is inno3d 4070tis i have zero complaints about it but i haven't really put it to the test yet, also using two t500 nvmes which tend to run cold but still asking

>>100364874
If the bios is up to date yes.

>>100364883
Just make sure they're not throttling either. Don't overthink it.

>>100364902
ok, do you know how can i configure my system not to push the fans to 100% at startup to test them like you mentioned before? is it a bios thing i prefer not to tinker with that too much

What can make a new PSU to be registered as outputting higher voltage than necessary in only one of its rails?

What’s a good case for eatx mobos?

>>100363987
repostan my question just in case

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>>100364742
Play the old classics as never before.

>>100364943
not sure i understood your problem but if it's corsair RMe these have a reputation for having problems

Anyway to stop certain games hiking the gpu usage to 100% for 2 seconds on startup, It happens with a handful of games so I'm unsure if the GPU is the issue

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>>100364947
>old UI doesn't scale with resolution
>already nearly illegible at 1080p
I can only imagine how some old game UIs look like at 4k.

>>100364947
based

>>100364980
What's so bad about 2 seconds of 100% GPU usage when you open a game?

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>>100364984
Need for speed scales. SIN however.....

>>100365002
Unreal 1 without the community patch is the same story. Also Fallout without the high res upscale patch.

>>100364999
hissing

>>100365041
Maybe lower your max fan speed.

>>100364928
>me
>turn system fans up until I find the sweet spot for highest speed and tolerable noise
>stagger speeds to avoid beat frequencies
>lock at that speed and never look at the fan control again
>yep sounds good
>PC under desk, headphones on

it's literally that simple, also just don't buy PSUs with shit fans.

>>100364971
>>100364943
it's mostly that they're noisier and use chinese capacitors

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>>100365022
Well luckily we live in a world where many (sadly not all) have fixed. Though it does feel like cheating in this game.

>>100365070
Do you not feel eye strain playing RTS with tiny units in a huge screen?

>>100364879
>i9 14900K + OC'd 7900 XTX
My god... That's like 1100 watts.

>>100365082
I'm sitting 65cm fro ma 32" screen so not really. I wouldn't play like that o na 27" as that would be too much (and for this sort of thing AMD's driver super resolution is quite handy - rendering game at say 1440p and scaling it via fsr1 to 4k means the UI scaling works as if it is 1440p).

In b4
>FSR1
For this use case it is more than fine as i'm not dealing with TAA or overly detailed scenes.

what's a professional looking case that can:
>support 360 aio at the top
>no sauna boxes because i plan to put high wattage parts in it
>with usb 3.0 A and C in the i/o
>decent size no small form factor bs
>slots for hard drives
>robust quality
glass is fine i guess i can always tint it myself

is north XL good? surprisingly little talk about it, since it's probably one of the coolest looking case on the market.

Does a RTX4070 ti super need support for sag?

>>100365176
Meshify 2 XL

>>100365176
North XL is a standard mid tower

>>100364943
This is a non issue and can be observed on basically any PSU as you get the initial inrush on boot.
you're doing one of three things to hear the bypass click
>you're noided and listening out for it now
>have the case panel open, or a highly open case or test bench
>putting your ear up to the PC when it boots
rest easy king

>>100364971
>>100365064
It is true that some Corsair PSUs aren't great and various models use noisy fans and/or Chinese caps, but this would be associated with general operational noise not the bypass click.

>>100365176
The Meshify 2 XL is what you are looking for. It can fit a 420mm aio on the top too.

>>100365176
The Meshify 2 XL for sure

>>100364410
Why do people think 45C is hot?

>>100365471
It's not, but people are used to idle temps being in the 30s.

>>100365208
>>100365220
>>100365272
>>100365333
cheers lads.

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>>100365580
Your very welcome

>>100365499
It tickles me that you can spot the chumps from the champs a mile away based on how they react to temperatures their system reports.

>so I downloaded this vidya repack
>during installation my cpu* went to 80c!
>all cores to 100%!
>OMFG ITS A MINER
>REEEEEEEEEE

*bonus is usually it is a 4 core laptop cpu that has never done nay hard work in its life until decompress 20gb into 50gb.

>>100365602
Professional shill.

>>100365602
thank you mr shill, tell your superior to put an order up for 1x Meshify 2 XL with the tinted glass thanks

>>100365627
did you even read my first post? it's a 7800x3d cooled with a phantom spirit instead a fractal torrent

>>100365176
lian li o11 evo is the best case.

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I need help on a general guid for a pc build that ranges 300-200 dollars. I dont expect to play fancy games just undertale and below (2015 below) SHould I buy a optiplex and stick a cheap graphics card in it? What graphics card cpu etc? I need help anons.

Been using an i7 6700k since 2015. Will a 7800X3D Be my best upgrade for mostly gaming?
Using a 2080ti & a shitty 4k monitor that I won't be upgrading until 5900 comes out

>>100365701
used xbox series x

>>100365747
The 7800x3d is the current best cpu for gaming.

I'm about to pull the trigger on this 4070 super because it's the only asus dual at base price:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CVCKX2GD

At 599 is this the best 4070 super to get?

>>100365751
I dont want console I want desktop pc for vidya and forum psoting and image saving

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>>100365759

>>100365815
AMD shill.

>>100364822
Eh... I'm expecting 1 kW PSU being mandatory in next 5 years if you want to enjoy maximum gamering.

I just installed a msi ATX 3.1 PSU for 1250w, and got a 12v2x6 power cable, but I am wondering - how many times can I use this cable? I seem to recall that there was a maximum limit of how many times you are actually recommended to use video card cables, like 12, but they don't seem to sell replacement 12v2x6 cables for this PSU.

Also, should I get a 4070 ti super now? I was using 2x 3060 for rendering, but my main 3060 that the monitors were plugged into started showing hella artifacts which I take implies the card has bad memory and is dying, so I had to remove that one and now I am rendering at half speed. I installed the new ATX 3.1 PSU I mentioned above in preparation for a newer upgrade.

bros how safe is it to buy a used 13600k for $150 on reddit

>>100364874
Will it POST? Yes. Is it a good idea? No. 300-series board has terrible power delivery, you do not want to run a 16C/32T monstrosity on that thing. I would not recommend anything more than a 5700X at stock speed on that thing, maybe a 5900X at stock speed if you have a fan pointing right at the VRMs.

Also, for the $361 that a 5950X cost, you could easily get a 13600KF ($235) + Z690 board and reuse your RAM, and get better ST + MT performance.

>>100365960
you can buy a z790 board for 100 bucks free shipping free returns https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Z790-Q-Flash-EZ-Latch-Motherboard/dp/B0BH9DXY38

>>100365815
That RTX 4070 Super is not really good.

>>100365984
That's $219 you fucking liar

>>100365984
That's DDR5 though, anon will have to buy new RAM. DDR4 Z690 is only ~$130 as well.

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>>100366024
I bought one already, it came everything except the manual and looked brand new

>>100366034
i got chu, the ddr4 version is cheaper, was 20 bucks cheaper last week https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BHTLF2X5?psc=1

>>100365888
anyone

>>100365936
elp

>>100365176
north xl both performs and looks better than anything the shills shilled for. just buy that.

>>100366159
CPU are reasonably safe to buy used, but make sure there's no physical damage (bent pins/etc...). Better if you can meet in person, if you have to use shipping I'd rather cop the extra bucks and buy it on eBay.

>>100364272
I need the efficiency cores

>>100366224
ok thanks jo

>>100364255
Hope you can help me.
Currently I am on a 2560x1080p 60Hz display and play games with a GTX 1070, which delivers fluid framerates in all games I play.
Now I want to upgrade to a 3440x1440p 180Hz display, which of course requires a new GPU. Now I would choose a 7800xt which is around 500€, the limit of what I think is acceptable for a GPU.
Does it make sense to buy now or should I wait until the mid/end of the year when new GPUs get presented and released?

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>shilling CPUs that have to be run at a 20% performance loss to prevent them from shitting themselves

>>100366394
Who are you quoting

>>100366422
Why are you worried?

>>100366448
Oy vey...

>>100366394
OP doesn't recommend those, except maybe the 14700k but not sure if it has the same problem

>>100366448
Why are you being antisemitic

>>100366479
what if I become the OP

>>100364518
> Flight Sim
Get the 5800X3D, maybe add another 32GB of RAM and be happy. Eventually you might upgrade to a 5070/80. At this point a 4070/80/90 no longer makes sense (too late in the life cycle of this gen of cards) unless you still suffer from a very old GPU but the 3080 is still a beast.

I just installed some LCD and TL 140 mm fans from lian li, now im not sure if my 850W PSU cant handle multiple connections or what but everytime I boot up my system its starting to take longer than usual to load up.

>>100365627
my 7800x3d idles at some shit like 50c and I don't give a fuck desu
as long as it's within spec under load I don't care, shaking my head at the guys freaking out over idle temps like it matters

>>100366312
Prices are most likely going to drop, so if you're not in a hurry I'd wait.

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>>100366529
Consider the following:

>>100365701
I'd probably try to get something used, a lot of people are probably dumping their old AM4 and DDR4 systems for cheap. Depends a bit on how good the second hand market around you is.

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So let me understand something all these new 60s that AMD and Nvidia are throwing out there use PCIE 4.0 x8 (RX 7600, RTX 4060). I've read that if you use them in a 3.0 motherboard then they lose performance because they're cut in half (x8) but if they were x16 then the performance impact wouldn't be as much?

>>100366579
different anon, thx i will wait for 5080 for decent enough jump from a 3080, i assume i won't be able to get a 5080 at MSRP until at least a year into the launch, so late 2025 or early 2026

>>100366957
Pcie 3 x8 is half of pcie 4 x8
Pcie 3 x16 is doubke the pcie 3 x8 which is pretty much pcie 4 x8
In terms of speeds

>>100367006
The cards only have 8 lanes so you're cutting bandwidth in half which can be crippling.

>>100367006
this >>100367022
I wonder if it's a ploy to make you upgrade your board to 4.0 or buy a B550 at minimum

>>100366756
wtf

is Rx 580 in 2024 considered low end nowadays? I've had it for the better part of a decade, and its just not doing it at the same level nowadays. Is it below entry level at this point?

>>100367178
RX 580 is generally outdated but depending on what you're playing it maybe ok if you stick to 1080p on lower settings, new AAA slop will be difficult, entry level now is like an rtx 3060 or RX 6600

>>100367074
The ploy is that bleeding edge nodes are expensive and cutting down on IO features (that barely scale in area) is a quick and easy way to shrink your die even further

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>>100367178
Look at this chart. Hint: don't start half way up.

>>100367022
>the cards only have 8 lanes
For real? What's the point of x16 then? Why even add 8 extra lanes.

>>100364297
this
even just the zen 5 APU will be enough for most normal people

>>100367201
What are my budget options that will work with a 450w psu?

>>100364334
probably price/performance ratio, the thermalright coolers are like sub $50

>>100367212
>What's the point of x16 then?
At its core the more memory a gpu has the faster it needs to communicate with the host system so data can be loaded into said memory. These low end cards have their lanes cut down to save cost but that is an issue when being slapped into pcie 3 boards. I have no idea about how feasible it would be (you'd certainly be dealing with less strict signalling requirements) but for the end user it would be better if they were pcie 3x16 cards so it doesn't matter where they went they would get plenty of bandwidth.

Not that pcie 4x16 matters for gpus in the consumer space right now. see: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-pci-express-performance-scaling-with-core-i9-13900k/

Side note: directstorage would make bandwidth matter more but lmao the adoption rate on it.

>>100367277
6600 or 6650 will work the actual power comsumption is something around 300~

>>100367344
if you have a 65w processor that is I forgot to mention (ie ryzen 5, core i5 400)

So which upcoming graphics cards are going to be the horribly overpriced ones and which are going to be the ones that barely even bring a budge in performance at their price point?

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>>100367424
Extrapolate from this.

>>100367424
mainstream cards (xx70ti and worse) will be scams while the 80 and above will have decent perf improvements

>>100367514
GTX 1000 were the best huh

Practicality of desoldering my laptop's 3050ti to shove a 3070 in it or should I just get a 4070 to build a PC around?

>>100367514

what year it was when average joe bought gt730?

>>100367595
that was never a thing for gaming
gt710 and gt730 were the bare minimum that couldn't even play youtube smoothly

>>100367595
gt730 is the kind of card you buy to put in a used pc you buy from a flea market

>>100367574
gpus have thousands of pads
its not possible to solder by hand

>>100367666
Oh, I thought it was. Gay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHILyzooR58

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>>100367870
Intel can't stop winning

>mb doing the entire USA journey from washington to florida, one edge to the other
I bought from a micro center on amazon, thought it would be quicker than this

>>100364255
nice tranny rig, faggot

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>>100367930
Powerful...

>>100367962
its impossible to do the straight white man build from modern parts

>4k
>4080s
Uhh...lol?

>>100367930
AMD is only at 7800? they need to catch up geez

>MSI 4080 Super Expert is available for Amazon monthly payments.
>No other 4080 Super variant is.
I just want a white GPU from their monthly payment plan. I'd rather not buy one outright and just use the extra funds for upgrades.

>>100367930
Power consumption (higher is better)

is ryzen 5700 a good upgrade to a 3200g

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What in the world is with Intel shills? Places like userbenchmark truly show how shameless and rabid they are. You'd think they're getting check after check from Intel, but the vast majority of them do it for free

>>100368715
mostly anything is an upgrade from the 3200g

>>100367930
>>100368486
>>100368549
Good for winter, It'll keep your room nice and toasty.

Brand loyalty is so dumb, you corpo shills.

>>100368873
What's the country that's backing intel that's not the USA? Yeah that's why

>>100364518

same shit here except i got the amd ryhzen 3800x since it was on sale and actually cheaper then the 3700 one, and a bit crapper GPU. but it still does the job.

>>100368715
No. 5700 is a 5700G without the iGPU, and is worse than the 5600(X) due to being essentially a laptop CPU

>>100369196
So I should get the 5600 even if it has less cores?

>>100369208
More core doesn't automatically mean better.

>>100369208
It has double the cache

What are some upcoming oled monitors this year?

best coolers for intel 14th gen cpu?

how does the arctic liquid freezer III cxompare to the nh-d15?

>>100369948
>Dell DoA
>HP DoA
>Samsung DoA
>LG DoA
>ASUS DoA
and other monitors with this crippled tech

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>spend all last week assembling my PC
>fire it up
>doesn't come on and only fans are working
>MSI board shows CPU and RAM LEDS so something going on with those
>"fuck"
>spend the rest of the week troubleshooting
>finally fix it
>get into the BIOS
>late at night so didn't do much
>shutdown PC
>figured I'd spend the rest of the day straitening up my wires inside my case and make it cleaner
>took a whole day to get everything neat and tidy
>next day want to finally install my OS
>no display from monitor
>no display use a different monitor
>"FUCK!"
Why does everything hate me?

>>100370129
280mm+ AIOs in general compare well to the largest air coolers in terms of temperatures. Naturally at the cost of longevity and, FWIW, pump noise.
The LF3 is among the best AIOs but GN says the pump is unusually loud. Might be a QC issue though.
If you already have a D15 then don't bother replacing it unless you're buying an i9. If you're building all new then don't bother with the D15 because it's equalled by much cheaper coolers now.

>>100370387
sucks to suck

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>>100368873Just imagine being fucked in the

>>100364255
When is the 5090 coming? Please don't lie to me, im dying waiting to replace my 3080 Ti.

Why did the i5 4590 sell so well? And the i7 4770K

>>100370387
Surely its this thread's fault

>>100370521
>4590
Best value for money Haswell (outside of the Haswell Xeon E3, but they weren't well known)

>4770K
TOTL Haswell before Devil Canyon refresh, only 4C/8T in the lineup that's commercial available and not a Xeon.

Is the TR Assassin Spirit EVO sufficient in cooling a 7800X3D running at stock voltages? I'm building it in a HAF 932 Advanced and I'm somewhat certain I could fit the TR Phantom Spirit 120 SE in it, but I don't want to get it and find out it's too large alongside my 4070 TI

>>100370387
Don't worry. I'll be you when all my parts come in. Some shit always goes wrong for me too, even when I double, triple check everything.

>>100370627
You can cool a 7800X3D with a Wraith Stealth, its a 65W TDP CPU in all but name, its power usage profile is the same as the 7600.

>>100370608
Was the 4790K not 4C/8T as well?

>>100370627
You could cool a 7800X3D with a basic stock cooler. Despite the "120W" TDP it's permanently limited to 88W in the hardware. What I would say is that, if you're buying one, you probably have a pretty loose budget so you might want a new case for some modern features.

Best 4+ TB SSD?
Ive been looking at some Corsair and Samsung but there are also alot of chinkshit SSDs for way cheaper but im not gonna take the risk on those.

>>100370627
yes

>>100370655
4790K was Devil Canyon. 4770K/4790K was the proto 13900K/14900K, minus the part where Intel had the gall to call 14th gen a whole new gen rather than just a refresh.

>>100370708
Absolute best? Rocket 5
https://sabrent.com/products/sb-rkt5-4tb
Best PCIE4? 990 Pro
Want something economical? Crucial MX500 or Samsung QVO

>>100370724
Actually scratch that. The SATA SSD (at least for Samsung QVO and Crucial MX500) is drying up. If you want something economic, you probably need to look at local prices. Leven JS600 4 TB is cheap in the US.

My Corsair AX1200 (the gold one, non-i by flextronics) died on me after 14 years of service going through three different systems upgrades. It just clicked in the middle of the night and system shut down, testing the next day, it was just dead for startup. It would still deliver the pre-boot power to different things but it's dead. Can't even turn it on with a paperclip method or through my tester.

So, what do I replace it with? Money no object what would you buy? Let's say you had a budget of $300? What about Budget of $500? What about budget of $1000? This is my gaming and workstation rig, and easily got to ~1099W on load.
Is Corsair AX1600i still relevant in the year of our lord 2024?

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My 1080ti probably aged this well, because it had "unnecessary amount of VRAM" when it was released. And 7 years later its still going strong and the VRAM is just right.

>>100370780
Superflower/EGVA.

>>100370780
>$300
Leadex Titanium 1500W
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2BcRsY/
Straight Power 12 Platinum 1500W
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GjWJ7P/

>$500
Dark Power Pro 13 1600W
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Hxgrxr/
Seasonic TX 1600W ATX3 ($570 but who's counting)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/64NYcf/

>Is Corsair AX1600i still relevant?
Yeah sure. I don't think I'd buy it when the Seasonic above is cheaper and has native 12VHPWR but it's still a fine unit. Maybe if you use that Corsair Link thing for monitoring?

Realistically that anything from this list would be fine: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#A=1500000000000,2050000000000&e=6&sort=price
Just a matter of small details and preference.

>>100370780
Everyone knows that cocksair is the pinnacle of crap, my new sf 750 didn't want to start yesterday, that's fucking embarrassing.
I would recommend evga supernova 1600 G+ because my 1000 watt supernova (bought in 2014) never let me down and still works fine in main pc. But I replaced 3 fans there.

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>>100370780
If I'm gonna assume you are in the US and your wall socket is supplying 120V. From BEST to less good:
>Seasonic Prime-PX-1600W ATX 3.0. Abolute best option, since the Salcomp PSU is not available for sale. Price: $472
>Corsair HX1500i. Just had a refresh. ATX 3.0 compatible, and only $359. And a top 10 PSU.
>Super Flower Leadex VII XG 1300W. Top PSU, only costs $200. Enough said.
>Montech TITAN Gold 1200W. 1200W of quality power for $140. Hard to beat on price.

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>>100370974
>Everyone knows that cocksair is the pinnacle of crap, my new sf 750 didn't want to start yesterday, that's fucking embarrassing.
Don't go off brands. The HX1500i is a top 10 ATX 3.0 PSU. Some of their SFX lineup is also very good. Every brand can have duds, in the end they all come from like 3 or 4 PSU factories.

>>100370974
>I would recommend evga supernova 1600 G+ because my 1000 watt supernova (bought in 2014) never let me down and still works fine in main pc. But I replaced 3 fans there.
EVGA is bankrupt and you may not have any warranty service. Crap recommendation

>>100370885
The GTX 10 series was an anomaly though, it won't probably repeat itself.

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>>100371105
Then buy FSP or Superflower, who made PSUs for evga. Simple as.

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I just want to be excited about GPUs

>>100371122
Yeah the Leadex Titanium is only $299 which is a pretty insane deal
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2BcRsY/super-flower-leadex-titanium-1600-w-80-titanium-certified-fully-modular-btx-power-supply-sf-1600f14ht

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>>100371129
See >>100370511
I posted about that but nobody replied.

>>100371129
Don't care, still waiting my thermal pads for 2080s with turbine. Gamecucks have to suffer, AIcucks have to eat shit.

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>>100371130
It used to be $500 originally so it's already discounted by $200. Sucks for them they have a horrible image / brand rep.

>>100371137
End of the year. But I mean "5060 that is 25% faster than a 4070, with 16 gigs" excited. No one cares about the fagship.

>>100371168
>No one cares about the fagship.
Steam hardware surveys say otherwise, poorfag.

>>100371168
>5060 that is 25% faster than a 4070, with 16 gigs
We could have gotten something like this if AMD was more competitive, the GPU market is really a shitshow as a whole.

>>100370780
AX1600i looks sexy as fuck
>80+ titanium efficiency
>Gallium Nitride (GaN) transistors
>100% 105°C Japanese electrolytic capacitors
>FDB fan with zero rpm mode
>The axi1600 is still the best consumer psu money can buy. It ha the strongest and most stable regulation, due to being a digital unit made with best souceable parts. You can buy the 6pin cable and it will become atx3 and beat every other psu.
>I bought this AX760i, which is manufactured by Flextronics, specifically because it's not manufactured by Seasonic (the non-i versions are Seasonic). You might wonder why, because Seasonic supplies are top notch. Well, they are, except that they ALL (yes, every single line, from the more basic units to the 80Plus Gold and Platinum units) prone to a high pitched whine sound depending on what hardware you use with them. I've personally experienced this and my high frequency hearing is VERY good and the whine in the Seasonic PSU I had was audible to me from a room or two away. I'm the type of person who can tell you immediately upon walking into a house if there is a CRT TV on ANYWHERE in the house.

>>100371190
>under 1%
Whoa you sure told me

>>100371205
I wish my PSU shat the bed two years ago. I could buy AX1600i retail at $450 CAD from up north during boxing day in 2021...

>>100371205
Yeah the AX1600i is still the best PSU, the Seasonic PRIME PX or TX are not better, though they are a bit less noisy.

Do you guys think the RTX 5000 series will release end of this year or next? My 1070 is on life support but I'm holding on to upgrade as soon as it releases

>>100371463
Only 5090 will be released in q4, dude. Leather man will allow his obedient cucks to purchase 5xxx cards in 2025 only.

>>100371463
>My 1070 is on life support
I bought a RX 580 to replace my piece of shit MSI Ventus 2070S.

>>100365471
>Why do people think 45C is hot?
because people have been conditioned to expect 30c idle when all anyone had was 14nm quad cores...

>>100364822
>>100364879
Isn't this still negligible in terms of electricity cost? Not to mention that it probably fluctuates depending on what you're doing?

the slow death of EVGA is really sad to see.

>>100371529
that's like a microwave oven but running for hours

>>100371463
my 1070 powers three separate 720p 27” monitors, has a 45 degree bend in the end of it and it’s STILL going strong. I’ve literally never had a problem with this card, and i’ve got a GTX 780 as a backup. Holy fuck new tech is hot garbage; it’s all made out of chinesium, nothing is built to last anymore

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>>100371538
Well yeah but if your cooling setup can handle it what's the problem

>>100370780
>AX1200
Well, Dual GPU SLI no longer exists these days. Toughpower GF 850W would do.

>>100371530
>the slow death of EVGA is really sad to see.
EVGA Radeon soon. Trust the plan.

>>100371530
>EVGA is dying
Just goes to show that the market is consolidating itself into mass-producing shit cards indefinitely because it’s the hype/marketing that sells and NOT performance lmao. Fuck this gay ass world, consumers get what they deserve

>>100371168
kek, since Nvidia learned that consumers will consume slop regardless, i'm not surprised if the 5060 is no better than the 4060, or the uplift would be 3% of the same tier of previous gen. 5090 wouldn't be much better either. they made the 4090 too powerful so i can see 5090 being an actual downgrade on par with 4080 Super

>>100370480
>>100370629
I think I finally fixed it. I think it was because my motherboard wasn't properly seated into the case due to missing a couple of screws and those fucking I/O shields man.


>>100370553
>Surely its this thread's fault
Yeah I blame this thread for not warning me about how god awful it is to use a case's detachable I/O shield. I see why motherboard tend to come with their own.

>>100371561
are we going to pretend that evga didn't do a bunch of corner cutting shit like selling cards with no thermal pads? their value was in their customer support more than anything else

>>100371608
No, we’re not going to play pretend; what if I told you that china has an invested and ongoing economic interest in fucking up western technology/silicon chips in order to promote their political ideology via mass surveillance and the general (over)use of Huawei devices? I think the most recent occurrence (relevant to the shit eating consumers itt) of widescreen interference was with WoW’s last expansion, Shadowlands. Remember Bobby Kotick? Same shit happened with EVGA: CEOs that take Blackrock/Chinese money in order to destroy western companies that pose a centralisation risk to the tech giants. Funny how that all works, huh

>>100371463
This generation the 4070 came 6 months after the 4090, fyi.

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>>100364255
Dell G2724D or Gigabyte M27Q Rev 2.0

>>100371606
Which mobo do you have that did not have its own?

>>100371824
Probably the dell in the US since its $60 cheaper.

>>100371857
not in us
where i live those are pretty much the same price
gigabyte is like $10 cheaper but only v2 is avalible which has dp1.2

https://www.techspot.com/article/2837-cpu-performance-4k-gaming/
Why is this article so retarded? Why did they not compare against a 7600X?

>>100371907
its to disprove people who tell others to not upgrade their cpu since they're playing at 4k

>>100371921
That's not actually what those people are telling you though.

>>100372003
what are they saying then

> Dell Precision 3630 Tower PC i7-8700 32GB RAM 512GB SSD Win11 Pro
just bought this refurbished

am i a retard?

>>100371846
Just a B650M-P

>>100372037
That getting the top tier CPU (i9, 7950X3D) has very marginal returns especially in 4K.

>>100372044
If you paid more than $250, probably yes.

Need some help on remote desktop access. I have a PC (Win10) and a laptop (Win8.1). Can I access the laptop via my PC? The reason is my laptop screen is burned where the backlight won't light up so it's kinda dark despite the LED shows everything when I looked at it in a certain angle albeit in a very high contrast look and dark (like those old calculator). I'd send it for repair later but my paranoid self wouldn't allow it until I could secure my files inside the laptop first.

>>100371921
>>100372003
Isn't this really about people advising high end cards paired with the minimum or near minimum CPU that drives them

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>>100372066
>$279 USD
tbf electronics are super expensive in my country

>>100364255
AMD and Nvidia will have cheaper cards this year, r-right guys?

>>100372078
Then they should compare with a 7600X.

>>100372129
if by cheaper you mean more expensive then yes

>>100370755

Thanks Babe.

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bros I didnt know this was a thing, I read it for for the 12th gen mainly, do I still need it for 13th gen 1700 socketrs?

>>100372219
Yeah it does make a difference. I see lots of asian builders in asia use it.

>>100372260
>-10$
what the HECK TY

>overclocking my i9 actually stabilized it
yep from now on im listening to you fags, fuck youtube and reddit

>>100372284
>fuck youtube & reddit
I sincerely hope you’re just a naive cunt who doesn’t know that 4chan is a horrible amalgamation of Youtube/Reddit in that it is equal parts retardation & hubris, only with pseudo-anonymity to trick those same retards.

>>100364255
Guys all you need is a card that's slightly better than a PS5 Pro, because pretty much all games are made with the PS5 in mind (sadly)

>>100372284
Pathetic manchild, you are on r/pcbg right now.

>>100372378
Let's assume PS5 pro is 2x fps more powerful than PS5. That would mean you would need a 6900xt+5800x3d to compete

Theres a leaker saying that the RTX 5080 will release before the RTX 5090.

>>100372078
I don't know why people build PCs that way, cpu bottlenecks are brutal as fuck and I wouldn't risk running into one just so I could save a few hundred bucks
it's like people forget that cpu heavy games exist and playing at 4k doesn't make them any less cpu heavy

>>100372397
You are a retard. Poor retard.

>>100372392
It's only supposed to be like 45% more powerful, so 1.5x the fps.

My guess is everyone with a..
3070? 3070ti? Will be fine

>>100372438
>8gb vram in 2024
I don't think so desu

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ermbwos 1tb gen 4x4 3500MB/2500MB 30$
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BBWH1R8H?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

>>100372482
>30$
what did she mean by this

>>100364586
>a pc that will pretty much last your lifetime
Depends, really. For gaming and use of current technologies, any computer system will either lose support, e.g. your hardware not being compatible to the current OS as the basis for APIs etc or it will sooner or later just not have enough raw computational power to run software anymore.

If, however, you essentially want to run the same OS and suite of programs and games along with it, then the only thing standing in your way is hardware failure, which can be delayed for many many years through careful handling of the machine. Then there is the inevitable physical decay of any matter of which computer hardware is no exception. With that as the upper limit, I can honestly see any given machine lasting for at least one or two decades, just as you can still give your old Windows 98 machine a go.
But, with todays systems you also have to keep in mind to opt out of any update schemes that may brick your machine due to changing hardware requirements. With Windows, this gets harder and harder each year. It would possibly be a good idea to archive a good Linux distro, just to have it ready for reinstall. With Linux gaming compatibility steadily imrpoving, you should be able to play most titles you want to, aside from Multiplayer flavour of the month titles and essentially any productive software as well.

If thats good enough for you, then the answer in short is Yes, it is somewhat possible. Otherwise, stick to upgrading every few years to keep up.

>save $29.24 at checkout
oh
too bad i can't get it in my country

>>100372586
oh i can get it, it just selected a different seller than amazon by default. still might not be worth it for me, i got WD blue SN570 2TB for $110 including VAT

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>HE DOESNT LIVE IN THE GREATEST COUNTRY KNOW TO MANKIND
cant be me

>>100372438
12gb VRAM cards are the new minimum so only peoplr with 4070s and 6700xts will survive.

https://www.amazon.com/Lexar-2x16GB-7200MT-Desktop-Memory/dp/B0CP6HY12G/

underrated DDR5 kit for only $116.49, lots of other kits are deprecated, this kit can be overclocked to 8000+ mhz

>>100372482
I wish I could get a 1tb SATA for $30

>>100372690
whats wrong with a m.2

>>100372690
yeah I don't really have any m.2 slots to spare, and dramless sucks to use for usb since you can't use the hmb

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>>100364255
I'm so tired of my micro itx build I'm going to buy a full sized case and move my tiny build over.
>Annoying to clean
>Loud
>Hotter than a typical case
>Can't fit as much storage as I want
Etc.

>>100372715
ok

Thinking of getting 2x16 DDR4 (have 2x8 atm) - does cl really matter, or just get 3600cl18 and be done with? 5600x which will be replaced to X3D someday, at 1440p if that is revelant.

>>100372715
Some atx cases are bad too
I moved from a (airflow optimized) fractal r6 to an O11D evo rgb and my gpu temps dropped 10C

>>100372741
if squeezing an extra 2% performance matters enough to justify the cost difference to get c16

>>100372741
Eh it makes a difference but not enormously so until you get into the weeds with tuning which is very much here be dragons. Especially if you plan (in a reasonable timeframe) plan to get an x3d it matters even less as those chips are fairly ram agnostic as the cache does a lot of heavy lifting.

>>100372715
but it looks cute :(
pls try to salvage it

>>100372639
Lithuania bros we living good

>>100372715
idk what case that is but it might fit thermalright pa120 mini
ATX PSU with 140mm length like seasonic focus gx might fit with a graphics card, otherwise corsair SFX platinum PSUs are said to be quiet as fuck

>>100372715
also if you want an assload of storage, you could get cheap used HDDs and mount them externally in a cheap chinese acrylic HDD stand

>>100372715
I don't get the itx meme
unless you're doing it for the challenge or you literally don't have enough space for matx or atx I don't see the point of building like this, you have to pay more to get less which is just wild to me

>>100365002
i miss when games had fun easter eggs like this in them

>>100372833
the price premium is far less than a laptop or something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9usinIuMBI

2 DIMM slots is preferred for memory overclocking so you're not missing out in that regard if you know you don't need a huge amount of ram

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>>100372753
>>100372763
>>100372800
>>100372812
>>100372833
Theres nothing to salvage, I fell for the meme. If I have to put my hdds outside my case that means it's the wrong case. I'm replacing it with a massive Lian li case which will be heavily modded. Going to air cool it and hopefully never buy another case again, just upgrading. Small form factor PCs are fun to build but shitty to use going forward.

>>100372881
HDDs are near obsolete if you're not running a server. at least get a controller so you can turn them off when you're not using them.

>>100372899
>HDDs are near obsolete if you're not running a server
You say this yet people are storing more data than ever before which means spinning rust will have its place, even if just for low priority storage.

>>100372881
The new CH160 case supports mounting HDD at the front but yeah.
Feel free to switch to ATX

>>100372833
Idk them niggas want oversized phone on table because its le cute table space economics

>>100372930
streaming is a thing. fat chance that you're properly using terabytes of data on a regular basis. silence is a game changer for me, we have dead silent smartphones, why should PCs make noise like it's the year 2000.

>>100372833
It's a good form factor for htpc or for having a gaming rig connected to your TV that isn't taking up space or looking out of place in your living room (Fractal Terra)

>>100372715
Use jonsbo d31 or gamemax spak, faggot.
It is perfect for any build.

>>100372999
D31 is not perfect, the Asus AP201 is a better case
>recommending anything GameMax
opinion discarded

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>>100373009
Shut the fuck up, faggot. Gamemax spark is a cheap copy of jonsbo d30.

>>100373013
>Cheap copy
like everything GameMax
>Faggot
says the nancy-boy recommending a fucking GameMax case made of chineseum that will bend quicker than your mother

>>100373022
Moron, are you going to play football with your pc? Explain this shit, retard, don't embarrass us with your unlimited stupidity.

>>100373033
Why do you type like a Chinese.

>>100373088
Imbecile, did you find a valid argument?

>>100373104
Yeah, rinky dinky chinky cases are completely wobbly pieces of unstable shit made with questionable metal, I'd be afraid of looking at a GameMax case the wrong way cause it might shit itself

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dats a lot of vram usage

>>100372945
Cuckold

>>100373172
kys pedophile

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>>100373133
Whatever floats your boat, pathetic elitist lmao.

>>100373133
Dude, can you post your pc case, so we could have a good laughter?
I bet you own some generic chinese crap like fecal design or lian li...

>>100373141
Presumably this is modded but does it fluctuate a lot or sit around this number? I know people say when you near your vram cap textures start ghosting or whatever to save on it so I wonder how much of a threat this is if it can spike depending on how crazy the scene is

>>100373205
>Elitist
Nigga I have a DeepCool mATX case, that isn't elitist in the slightest, keep recommending shit products from shit brands and you'll keep catching shit you dumb fucking chink

if you truly need a lot of storage, you can buy 6-8TB HDDs for surprisingly cheap on the secondary market, so you can have both huge capacity and redundancy, but chances are you're just hoarding old 1-4TB HDDs like a boomer

>>100373224
>Fractal
>Chinky generic crap
Talk about elitism, what's your case then Richie?

>>100373226
>>100373244
Ahaha, fucking niggers, fecal design is a flimsy chinese generic shit. Just for you information.

>>100373225
>Presumably this is modded
Only in so much it is ultra settings, 4k and the official HD texture pack installed. I'm currently running around in the area outside diamond city which causes more vram than just fucking about in the wasteland,but it is consistently eating 20gb in the city area.

>>100372899
Since when we're hdds near obsolete lol. I do run a Plex server so I'm considering two itx motherboards in one full sized case, regardless I'm not short of space and I'm too old to buy a new case every build, it's time for a forever PC case that can handle whatever I want to shove in there. Eg currently want to run an old gpu alongside my modern gpu so I can output an interlaced signal to old monitors. I want to put my blue ray burner in there etc. I have 32 TB of storage ziptied to the insides of my other PC, so... Time for a change.

>>100373266
>Based in Gothenburg and with offices in the US as well as Taiwan, Fractal Design has gained a global reputation for innovative design, elegant aesthetics and solid build quality. Fractal Design products are available in over 45 countries worldwide, and are still growing.
Oh yeah, totally cheap chink shit like GameMax, fuck off you stupid chink

>>100373299
Retarded nigger, they make these shitty boxes in china.

>>100373294
>Since when we're hdds near obsolete lol
But jay and linus NEVER put them in PC's they build, ergo HDD must be obsolete.

>>100373294
SSDs are vastly faster and silent, HDDs have stuck around to some extent because of capacity and price per GB but the average normal user who doesn't run a server just buys one or two M.2 SSDs, you can get them in 2-4TB capacity, and maybe keeps a few vestigal HDDs but personally i removed them because they wouldn't stay turned off without having to add a separate controller

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Stupid cunt, stop embarrassing yourself. You have a room temperature iq.

>>100373244
I have be quiet pure black 600 (made in china) and lian li o11 dynamic (made in china too). Also I had this flimsy FD meshify (made in china too).

Can I interrupt your womanish bickering with a question?

Fans on the bottom (case is elevated) yes or no? Experiences?

>>100373568
Should add: It's about 10 cm off the ground.

>>100373568
It never hurts to have more intake, especially on the bottom.

>>100373633
>>100373633
>>100373633

>>100373568
What is your pc case? Ideally 6 fans are for intake and 3 for exhaust.

>>100373568
unless you're thermal throttling, who gives a shit

>>100373332
Yes I'm aware. Ssds suck for large capacity and desu I don't trust them. Great for my os, steam library etc. but as backups or to serve media no way.

>>100373568
>Direct airflow to GPU yes or no?
Uhm, yes this is the benefit of having a case without bottom psu
if you bought a o11 and not using 9 fans you pretty much fucking up