epoxy on my ram and rom

>>101078597
CPU/GPU and lighter weight.
Otherwise, T540p/T440p/W540 are a great middle of the road: not too old, not too new.

where is everyone? ;-;

>>101093648
Too busy zapping Libreboot to their bios chips.

>>101093693
makes sense i guess, keep doing that

>>101093701
I don't trust myself with something like that. It's like open heart surgery for laptops.

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>>101092595

>>101093725
its simple if you desolder the chip, you can replace it with bigger one by doing that for more rom space

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>>101092600
l-lewd?

thinking of buying a refurbished thinkpad from taobao, anything to look out for?

>>101096005
if there's any problem, returning would be a pain because you are not living in china?

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I got a T430 that "turns on but it's just a black screen". I suspected it was a corrupted bios or something so I desoldered the two bios chips. The 8MB one cannot be read, flashrom running on a RPi doesn't detect the chip. The other, 4MB one, is detected and can be read.

Every unbricking guide I have found starts with having a backup of the original bios which I cannot get because it appears the 8MB chip is damaged. Is there a way to fix this or am I SOL?

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Got x230 for my mom years ago.
Battery is kill.
Any issues with aliexpress batteries? Don't care about capacity but how precise is percentage/runtime readout.
>Manufacturer: LGC
>Manufacture date: 28/08/2013
>First use date: 04/11/2013
Just some data from old one, 11 years old not bad tho only 133 charge cycles.

Would never buy lenovo again

are we getting a strix point t14 or just next year (Yawn)?

my gen1 is starting to shit the bed in terms of perf

>Lenovo used Windows anti-theft feature to install persistent crapware
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/lenovo-used-windows-anti-theft-feature-to-install-persistent-crapware/
>Hackers can infect >100 Lenovo models with unremovable malware. Are you patched?
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/04/bugs-in-100-lenovo-models-fixed-to-prevent-unremovable-infections/
>Hackable Intel and Lenovo hardware that went undetected for 5 years won’t ever be fixed
https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/04/supply-chain-snafu-causes-intel-and-others-to-ship-hackable-hardware-for-5-years/
>Lenovo driver goof poses security risk for users of 25 notebook models
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/11/lenovo-patches-secure-boot-vulnerabilities-that-imperil-25-notebook-models/

CCP bros... I don't feel so good

What do you think about L16 with this config:

Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 7 PRO 7735U processor (2.70 GHz up to 4.75 GHz)
Memory: 32GB DDR5-5600MHz (SODIMM)
Hard Disk: 1 TB SSD, M.2 2280, PCIe 4.0, TLC, Opal
Camera: 5MP RGB and infrared camera with two microphones
Battery Pack: 3 cells lithium polymer, 57 Wh

Should be decent for software development? L16 looks like a nice jump from L15. DDR5 and 300 cd/m2 IPS screen.
But there are no reviews online yet.

>>101096141
if I'm using a shipping agent, I guess I could get them to check for me?

>>101097278
buy kingsener from aliexpress, using one rn, no issues after 2 years
>>101097197
buy new chip from aliexpress and replace via soldering

>>101098554
is there a big price difference between a L16 and T16? else would just have similar specs with T16 but with a 86Wh battery

>>101099444
Oh yes there is. T16 is 60% more expensive, but with a better processor (7840U) and faster RAM (6400MHz). But I can only choose 32GB RAM which is soldered... Not worth it imo.

>>101098382
Cool now list all the 'Israeli' computer vulnerabilities/hacks/spyware.

Newest 14 inch or smaller thinkpad with biggest battery?

>>101102088
"biggest battery" would be ivybridge, they casually have 100wh batteries

>>101097197
You do know that you can program the chip without desoldering it, right? I programmed 3 thinkpads so far and never had to desolder anything. I use pomona and raspberry pi 02w. You can instead try flashing coreboot from skulls just to see if it works.

>>101092595
Nice render and all but...
Why on the floor?

>>101104372
thats where we operate

>>101102985
too old

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>>101092595
how does /tpg/ feel about asus, specifically pic related

What’s the best light weight Thinkpad with a hidpi screen that. Runs GNU/Linux perfectly?

>>101104599
thinkpad x230

Recommend me a laptop that is good for writing, saving pics/videos, internet use like youtube. Thanks.

>>101105072
thinkpad x230

What would be the best affordable upgrade to a T480 (including non-Thinkpads) available in Europe? T14 Gen 2 AMD?

>>101106147
thinkpad x230

what think pad i buy?

>>101104265
Sick, probably a good way to revive dead thinkpads off eBay

>>101105072
Thinkpad T480

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Is my CPU's thermal paste even worth changing? I've had this laptop for about 2 years. This is at idle. Maybe it hits 55°C or around that with some load

>>101104378
What's your job OP?

>>101106471
chief officer shut in, also im not op

>>101106392
a fair warning, avoid ch341a. Older versions have 5v voltage issue and might fry the chip, while newer often do not provide enough power, so you would have to use external power supply. Raspberry pi or similar board with decent gpio is really worth it. Skulls have pre-made script that automates all the software tinkering for you

>>101106433
No, leave it alone. Not worth the disassembly time and effort right now to net a low single digit temp reduction. Id be amazed if it idled under 43 degrees brand new.

>>101106925
Pure FUD. I've used my CH341A for dozens of flashes without any issue. The power delivery will be 3.3V, which is all that matters. Some may output 5V on the data lines, but in practice this isn't a problem as any 3.3V chip can safely handle 5V logic.

>>101107651
>I've used my chinese botnet with zero issues, maybe you're just retarded

>>101107672
Incredible comeback.

whenever I take out my X230's SSD then put it back and boot it asks me to set the date/time.

sometimes this doesn't happen, how do I prevent this

>>101109281
dead cmos?

>>101109315
>cmos
fuck, I have to remove the wificard in an x230 to get to it, huh? If so, a screw is stripped and I ahve no way to get past it so I'll just deal with it.

>>101109601
you dont need to remove wifi card or anything, just bottom screws and keyboad + palmrest

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I found a used T480 on Ebay with core i5, 16gb ram, 500gb HDD, that claims it's in good quality. But it has a 1366x768 TN panel and I don't have the money to get a new one. It's on its way, it cost me $200 CAD (about $150 usd). Good deal? Should I expect it to be beaten up? The seller has a good rep. I've never had this laptop before and never had a laptop with a 768p screen so I'm not sure what to expect.

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Need to replace both T480 Batteries. Is that kensener one ive seen around the best chinese one to go with or should i just get whatever crap from ebay. I kinda dont want to wait for alixpress to ship from chyna

>>101110272
>HDD
>1366x768 TN panel on a 14" laptop
Sounds terrible senpai

>>101110299
I hear people trash the TN panels but I'm not convinced it will be a problem for usability until I see it with my own eyes. As long as what I purchased is good for the price I paid I will be happy. But I don't know what these laptops typically go for so I could've been ripped off for all I know.

>>101110312
ignoring the whole 100%srbg/high nits, 768 > 1080p is a huge difference, 1200/1440p less so
also i would not get it just because it's hdd, that is really slow compared to ssd

>>101110272
The human eye can't distinguish any resolution higher than 1366x768
I didn't even know those shit spec t480s existed in the wild. I wouldn't even consider one at $150 when for half the price I can get latties that are 2 cpu gens newer with 1080p touch screens and still have the clit mouse and 2 swappable ram slots and space for 3 drives

>>101110358
Shame, but I have a 256gb ssd I can throw into it.

>>101110363
>latties that are 2 cpu gens newer with 1080p touch screens and still have the clit mouse and 2 swappable ram slots and space for 3 drives
Link?

>>101110312
The main issue is the awful resolution, a 14" or larger laptop should at least have a more useful resolution like 1440x900 or 1680x1050, if not FHD.
Also the HDD is a crippling bottleneck in a modern system so yeah, swap it out for an SSD as soon as you can.

>>101110375
It's a big university that only sells stuff off locally. All the surplus computers go through it so there's always a pretty constant supply. After a month of being available they start taking 20% off each week, so sometimes you can get some pretty nice stuff for under $50

would the x200 be good for a cs degree or is it too old?

>>101110624
just get a t480

>>101110624
Get an A285 or something if you want a smaller form factor. I quite like mine. X230 would be the oldest model I'd recommend, it's still good enough to handle modern websites/video formats without issue.

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>page 10
I will bump the thread with a Framework 13 laptop

still cant figure out how to coreboot my x220

>>101112257
i'm posting from my AMD fw13 right now. i love this laptop so much. i put arch linux on it, and i ordered the new screen -- batch 1, can't wait for it to arrive.
i'm keen to keep this thing for as long as possible and keep upgrading it as needed.

>>101107651
I'm not an expert on these things but can't they just use a multimeter to see the V before they flash?

>>101104535
I have a newish vivobook with Nvidia and so far it's been fine. Although the black plastic is very fingerprint heavy and the keyboard leaves permanent marks on the plastic screen and the rough bezel leaves marks on the keyboard deck.

X220 apparently doesn't have the best chassis
Should I re-chassis/reinforce mine which is falling apart, if so, how? (I would probably get a new palmrest, then have to try fixing the bezel and maybe replace the part just in front of the palmrest on the left; I think I would also get a new battery in this endeavor)

Or just get another Thinkpad?

>>101113174
Maybe upgrading to an X230 is an option?
I find that X220 is really on the edge, it can do some light work but quickly falls behind, in my experience.

>>101092595
buy my used thinkpad T430 300€ bucks EU only
I'm selling with ebay/wallapop/subito.it
OS: Windows 11 Pro
Screen: IPS matte 2560x1440
CPU: Intel i7-3632QM quad core 3.2@
RAM: 16gb
Battery: 94wh batteria estesa
Storage: 1tb ssd in wwan slot + 128gb ssd

>>101110363
>The human eye can't distinguish any resolution higher than 1366x768

anon you should probably get your eyes checked.

I travel to many different houses, and not all of them have TVs capable of just letting me hook up my external HDD with all my anime on it. Some hardware issues, some have software issues and dont like the file types.
I am looking into getting a thinkpad so I can plug my HDD into that, and then just run an HDMI from the laptop to the TV.
I wanted something durable since I will be moving it quite often, and with a decent battery life.
Any suggestions on a model? Should I just get some cheap random laptop from amazon instead?

>>101114897
just get a shitty chromebook off of ebay

>>101092595
>op picrel
I miss my Startac.

>>101110272
In the US at least, a nice FHD IPS panel for that would likely cost not much more than $50. And should be easy to replace.

>>101110621
>I can't tell you, its a secret club you can't access
Thanks, real helpful.

Thinkpads are absolute dogshit in 2024.
The older ones are easy to work on and have a retro look but they are poorly built and not powerful enough for most users.
The modern ones have better build quality but are not as easily repaired or upgraded. Most models have cooling problems and shit firmware.

The ethos of this general still applies, buy older enterprise machines, but thinkpads are a bad meme.

>>101116867
>retro look
""""
>not powerful enough
fuck off back to where you came from

>X390 i5-8365U 16GB 256GB @ 229€
>X395 Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U 16GB 256GB @ 229€
Is this a good deal? Which one is best? Yes I know about the soldered RAM on new models but I think 16GB will be enough for me

>>101116914
>No arguments
I said "for most users" if you are content being unable to run modern applications or websites then go for it.
Thinkpad meme is an 'aesthetic' from IBM days. No other reason when the machines are objectively shit for a decade or more. The nipples since t420 are shit. They aren't any more repairable than any other machine. So what is the point ?

>>101117240
>if you are content being unable to run modern applications or websites then go for it.
you need the latest i9 to render html, ok????

>>101106206
I want an improvement, not a downgrade

>>101118058
but thinkpad x230 is an improvement...

For how long do your batteries last on your thinkpads?

>>101118436
battery wh cap / current power draw as shown by powertop

>>101118436
Get about 3 hours out of it with light use.
It's not enough. It's annoying to keep the battery in order with this little battery power, so I will just keep it charging 24/7.

>>101118719
I mean. To be fair, it was intended to be a business laptop, made just to be plugged to AC adapter 24/7.

>>101118736
Well, I have an x270, the battery is a little old and the internal battery is missing so maybe a fresh thinkpad could've easily done 6-7 hours.
Which would make it a lot easier to NOT have it plugged in 24/7.

>>101118436
My T14 AMD 4650u gets about 6 hours of super mario 64 co-op and my X1 Carbon i5-8365u gets about 8 hours of super mario 64 co-op.

T14 gets up to 10hrs on battery saver and low brightness, watching streams or whatever.

>>101117091
Between those 2 CPUs, the AMD one is slower and will get less battery life, but the GPU will be much faster. AMD isn't better CPU wise until the 4000 series in laptops.

Can I use the t480 with no battery then put in the external battery to use when I'm outside?

>>101117091
As >>101119879 said, the AMD is not better except in graphics. Which frankly is what shows its age soonest in aging hardware IMO. If it's something you are going to drive til the wheels fall off, it might be the better choice even if it's worse on paper.

>>101120544
yes

I've been given a Yoga 2 13 and I'm loving it, the screen looks really great and is 2 in 1, I'm now looking for a replacement as that machine is old and only has 4GB RAM.

I don't know if for my country these are the ones there are available and elsewhere is better but I've been looking at the lenovo website and all 2-in-1 have soldered RAM, there are no non-soldered RAM 2-in-1 Thinkpad laptops?

And goddamn those prices

>>101092595
why do retards keep making WHAT LAPTOP SHOULD I BUY? instead of posting here

>>101124382
They're retarded? You can also send them here by crossposting.

>>101092595
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™

I found L450 from someone's bin, put zorin OS in it and it is so comfy. Why you guys hate the L series again?

>>101124410
i do but i get ignored and other retards start bumping the thread

>got a t420
<died suddenly after 6 months
>got another t420
<died suddenly after 1 month

What is wrong with me? Seriously, i don't break stuff. I don't hit my thinkpads, they are treated with care.

>>101092595
Is Intel Optane worth to buy for a T480?

>>101123073
You buy these things used for $200-300 when their 3yr business lease ends, rule of thumb for all business lenovo laptops

https://www.ebay.com/itm/305604880708

Maybe not the best listing possible but this is where you should be aiming if you want bang for your buck

>>101125414
that price looks great, specially since I've been looking at replacing the touch of the yoga 2 13 and the replacement cost almost as much

is that the best model I could get for >=$200?

>>101124452
L series being bad is old information. New consensus is that Ls are fine. They got better, Ts got worse. Ls are only slightly thicker yet still slightly more fragile than Ts. Weirdly many of them retained dual RAM slots throughout the last several years of design abortions from Lenovo. They'd be more popular if people would bother to do any amount of research.

>>101097286
Please tell us about your experience.

>>101106925
>>101107651
People have been arguing about the CH341A for years now. It seems safer to avoid it if you didn't already get one. So while the people (probably one dude honestly) who always complain they have one that works fine will get defensive about the thing they use, someone who hasn't already bought a flasher still shouldn't get one I think.
This also reminds me of people gaslighting each other in the GitHub issues for pico-flasher (used to dump and flash the Xbox 360 NAND with a Pi Pico) and saying people with problems must have bad or fake Picos, which is definitely not true. It's just shitty unreliable firmware from what I could tell. You'd sometimes get partially successful flashes with a bit of corruption, sometimes couldn't read the NAND at all to dump it. Sure it worked fine sometimes but it was very unreliable so it was worth it to get a dedicated known-good flasher instead. In that case I got the XFlasher 360 which is made specifically for 360 modding, so I don't know what I'd recommend for *boot flashing. I always heard good things about the FT232H and I recall it being pretty affordable, but there might be a better option these days.
Pine64 used to have something but I don't know if they still sell it.

>>101106433
Try a small undervolt first. It tends to lower temps more than a repaste anyway. Save the repasting for when you take it apart to upgrade something else anyway.

>>101127701
The problem with the CH341A has never been the power delivery, it will output 3.3V just fine on that line, regardless if it's the variant that outputs 5V on the data. The issue is people often use the shitty clip that comes with it instead paying an extra $10 for a Pomona clip with proper length F-F cables.

>>101098382
>a bunch of scary headlines that are outdated or otherwise fucking irrelevant to 99.999% of users.
Oh no, my enterprise hardware that I purchased between 2019 and 2024 and is running lighttpd MIGHT be vulnerable to a specific HTTP attack.

>>101110272
MemoryExpress sells refurbished laptops that are much more expensive than that, but those things should be everywhere in Canada because many Canadian governments buy Lenovo laptops (I know at least the Feds and BC/AB/SK all do) so I would expect it to be in good condition at that price.

I'll be going to a used computer store. What should I be checking when looking for a used Thinkpad? I already know the range of models, just to make sure everything is working right

>>101118436
X13 purchased new in 2022, running on low power mode but max brightness easy 8+hours doing office tasks (mostly reading large PDFs and drafting documents) while running everything through three layers of encryption (windows whole drive encryption + veracrypt container double-encryption).

>>101129797
bios / supervisor password, you can't bypass them with modern thinkpads

Can I remove my thinkpad's keyboard while it's on? Half of the keys stopped working and I want to see if it's a problem with the ribbon cable or the connector on the motherboard by wiggling it and moving the connector a bit, but idk if it's okay to remove the cable while the laptop is still on. It's a t440p

>>101092595
Daily reminder that the T in ChinkPad models stands for tranny

>>101106147
bump

>>101127715
>>101107436
Well, I have to clean the fan anyway. If it looks bad I'll replace it.

Is there anything else I should look for while it's open?

>>101131332
No just go slow and don't force anything. Double check all your ribbon cable connections during reassembly. Good opportunity to clean the keyboard/deck really well too.

>>101092595
Hello gamers, I’m trying to remove the bios password from my chinkpad t480, but my bios chip is a winbond 25Q128JVSQ, and when using detect in as programmer it only brings two options: W25Q128FV and W25Q128BV; I wanted to know if using any of those was ok or if I should find a program that has my specific chip number. Thanks!

>>101132415
i dont think the name matters, it always gives me 5 different names i just type out the shortest one

>>101112400
That's cool. I dunno if I should get a Framework or a MacBook - I have come to hate Apple, but part of me wants the chance to develop iPhone apps if I want to (you need MacOS to compile an iPhone app, although I keep thinking I should try to run a MacOS VM on Linux, which might work)

bros my lenovo y50's monitor stopped working but i just wanna use an external display. ubuntu recognises my external monitor but the lenovo screen doesnt show and i cant access the boot menu... i disconnected the internal monitor cable from the motherboard but that didnt work... do i have to remove the the speakers and other cables that are from the internal screen to the motherboard too?

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>page 10
Bumping with the Framework laptop again

>>101130633
sure

>>101134082
Change default display in your bios settings.

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T4560s
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6600U CPU @ 2.60GHz 2.81 GHz
Installed RAM 20.0 GB

touch screen is pretty nice -- i didn't think i'd use it, but it's pretty convenient

>>101130661
>ChinkPad
someone should make merch

>>101092595
reviving

>>101136550
i dont think i can do that... i did some research and found a bios simulator so i can just remember the key strokes if i need to do something in bios
https://download.lenovo.com/bsco/index.html#/textsimulator/Lenovo%20Y50-70%20(80EJ,80DT)
theres nothing here about changing default display

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>page 9
Rescuing the thread with another Framework laptop picture

Whats the best way to sell my 'pads to other anons?
I want to remain pseudononymous

>>101118436
3 hours of chillin n shi
refurb T420 for ~50€

what would you say is a good price for gen10 x1 carbon?

So many people list laptops on ebay as "No OS" and price them at $50 less than normal. I've started using it as a search term to find cheap laptops. Normalfags are so fucking stupid.

Can someone tell me what's the specific name of these cables that you connect to SOIC pins.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61XzmtolV4L._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg

>>101110272
BUY IT AND REPLACE SCREEN WITH N140HCG-GQ2 - THE LOW POWER IGZO DISPLAY, IT HAS 400NIT AND IS FUCKING AWESOME!!!!

>>101143671
>$100

I have a T420 model that came with a i5-2520M CPU and worked just fine. Recently bought an i7-2670MQ and replaced the old CPU but when it boots it gives error “0190 Critical low-battery error”. I managed to boot it boot it by plugging the battery instead of just using the AC cord, the problem is now windows pop-up a message; “Incorrect AC adapter is attached. This AC adapter cannot provide enough power for normal operation of your computer.
You may be able to charge your battery with this AC adapter if your computer is in sleep or shut-down states.”

Why all of the sudden the AC adapter is not compatible?

>>101092595
Hello, I own a t430 which I used 1vyrain to flash Skulls as my bios.

Yet apparently skulls doesn't support modern operating system such as FreeBSD.

Do any of you know if it is possible for me to, reflash some sort of modern bios which has some level of Intel IME cleaning, and supports UEFI.

Thanks.

>>101145461
The error is obviously caused by the damaged battery and not by the AC adapter.

>>101145461
What wattage is the adapter? You need the 130w for the new processor, it's more power hungry. This is a known thing.

>>101146282
with the battery runs just fine the problem is the AC cord ig. I even update the BIOS and still the same

>>101146488
130w??? I just found on ebay maximum 90w. Currently mine is 65w 20v. My battery is wheezing. Is it okay? sounds like a small fan but theres no fan around that area and is not the HDD because im using SSD

I got a free x61
I'm trying to upgrade it's bios, but can't get it to boot
I dd'ed the provided iso to a usb stick, am I missing something?

Also do you have any tips on removing human gunk from the keyboard?

does anyone have experience with the "low power consumption" nvmes from patriot? my pad's nvme is dying and has to be replaced and i was wondering if these things might make a different in battery life.

I finally landed a job and was planning on buying a laptop so I can separate my leisure space from my working one. Thing is, I have no idea about hardware. Am I right in assuming that a used ThinkPad would work just fine for web and mobile development?

>>101092595
Any Latitude bros in the thread?
Rocking a dumpster E6430

is it worth my time to try and upgrade the CPU on my SL410, or should I change my OS to something that is a little more conservative? I'm on linux mint 21.3 cinnamon, using an intel core 2 duo. cinnamon itself is using upwards of 50% of the CPU, and I only really wanna use it for software dev. if what I'm doing rn is completely retarded lmk because I only really started caring about specs recently

>>101147567
booting off of cd always works. but you need the dock for cdrom
>Also do you have any tips on removing human gunk from the keyboard?
99% isopropyl
>>101145692
build coreboot with tianocore

>>101148144
Hell, yeah, the old Latitudes and Precisions with Haswell and Ivy Bridge CPUs have badass build quality versus most modern sloptops and their craptastic plastic.
Maybe I went overboard with a T540p, E6330, and E6440. But my Asus TUF F17 runs more modern games and Stable Diffusion.

>>101130661
>muh trannies
>>>/x/
>>>/b/

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>>101148713
It's beautiful

>>101149111
>dust/lint
triggered

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How do I keep my T480 screen from getting scratched by the keyboard?

>>101149131
Sorry, still haven't scrubbed off all the soft-touch rubber surface which has turned to sticky tack, so it collects.

>>101146958
Yeah, the W series that came with quad cores came w a 130 watt standard.

>>101149297
You can try furniture bumpers, the kind that are thin flat pieces, and place them where they will make contact with the screen bezels/edges.
Maybe the original bumpers on your machine are missing/worn? All laptops of any kind tend to have simple bumpers or something to protect the screen from the keyboard.

>>101148437
Then can I flash that coreboot bios using 1vyrian?

>>101092595
posting this from my new (used) thinkpad rn. repasted the CPU & looking to replace the battery eventually but battery seems great, lasts like 6 hours with browser and DM programs open

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is it worth the extra $25?

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>>101149297
you don't

>>101150719
WQHD is really nice.

>>101150747
wouldn't it affect the battery life? I assume the regular IPS display wouldn't consume as much power

Is the t480 an actual meme? I want to get the dgpu model but I'm reading stories about thermal throttling and dying thunderbolt ports(though I think this one is fixable with a firmware upgrade or something).
I have a fully upgraded t440p(i7-4712mq) and I'm just a bit worried that it'll perform worse than it somehow. It also doesn't have the bottom connector so I'll need to buy a new dock.
I'm also on the lookout for an i7 t470p with dgpu, but I've never seen one in the used market here. I know the gpu is worse on this one but since it's chunkier I'm thinking it would have better thermals, plus I wouldn't have to buy a new dock.

>>101124811
lonovo must hate you

>>101149297
I wonder if a glass screen protector that size exists?

>>101124811
Those are very old systems. If longevity is important, try something newer.

>>101148713
>>101149111
any good latitudes with 7th/8th gen quad core i7 and dgpus?

Any reason not to go for a HP ProBook G7/8? They don't seem too expensive and they seem easy to open to replace battery/ram/ssd

>>101143215
"dupont wire" and :minigrabbers" should get you close enough

What is the recommendation for desktop workstation? I don't play games, only program.

I have an x220t but it isn't powerful enough anymore. My old HP workstation is starting to make a weird buzz from the power supply. Not really sure what to do bros

>>101151738
hp z220, coreboot support and xeon with ecc ram
>weird buzz from the power supply.
recap it perhaps

>>101149737
not the same connector type tho, ig ill try the 90w

>>101151427
Probooks post 6570/6470 seem to have mediocre build quality. They're more modern in their fragility from what I've seen, but maybe anons who have used/serviced some versus older, tougher machines can chime in?
Elitebooks look to be the HP machines to go for.

>>101151738
>a weird buzz from the power supply
Inductors, when they die, tend to make buzzing sounds. If everything still works as it should, then you have nothing to worry about. Most of the time, they are labeled "Lxx" on circuit boards and tend to be big blocks. You might even be able to get a peek at the copper coil inside, in some cases. Sometimes, they are simply small transformers of sorts meant to filter out RFI. Some will be tiny black pieces, akin to SMD resistors, but black color instead. If there were to be nothing powering on and you hear a whine coming from the power supply, it is definitely a dead transformer in need of replacing.

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>page 9
I am forced to raise the thread with another Framework laptop image

>>101151738
don't forget software maintenance, getting rid of registry bloat, turn off background services that don't need to be running at all or simply not as often, etc.

>>101153622
It's okay for the thread to die. We just make another one tomorrow, simple as.

>>101149297
I've seen people lay a thin handkerchief/lint free cloth across the keyboard before closing the laptop. idk how effective it is long term. The root problem is the lid isn't rigid enough so it squishes in the middle and rubs the keys against the screen if any amount of pressure is applied to the lid, like normal use of tossing it in a book bag and carrying it around and so on.

>>101150719
Get the s. You're retarded if you pay more for a worse machine.

>>101151738
I have an old S30 ThinkStation (Seig Xeon). It's been killer, but is showing its age too. Idk if any of the newer ThinkStation offerings are worth it.

>>101154361
omg
That's some exaggerated floppiness.

All these remarks and more I've seen across the web makes we want to take a shot at selling improved housings/cases for laptops made of tougher materials or straight up steel, but I don't have the funding and means to go for it. Or maybe some clip-on reinforcements that make machines more rigid.

And before you say "steel too heavy", a laptop casing of tempered steel that is under 1-1.2lbs. on its own and tough as a battletank's armor is totally doable. Such steel is easy to find in cookware, for instance.

Alas, corpos lean harder into planned obsolescence and shamelessly call it "revolutionary and innovative" while laughing at the masses and their ignorance and compliance.

>>101153540
I was looking at 445 and have no idea if those are supposed to be older or newer. Not like I plan to use it as a baseball bat

>>101092595
I was thinking of getting a Laptop for gaming. Like, old games, maybe 10-20 years old.
Are Thinkpads bad for this kind of thing?

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What would be the best replacement for my Framework 13 that isn't cucked by modern computer trends, while being small, repairable, inexpensive, and practical?

I love the Framework, but it's a baseddev laptop lol. I'll change my mind when prices drop significantly and coreboot is supported. Once that happens it'll win over >=2020 model thinkpads I bet.
It's extremely expensive and needlessly fast, like what's the point of DDR5 and Gen5 NVMe? But I think the X270 is my ideal choice, but how good is the i7-7600U dual core cpu for modded minecraft and simple rhythm games at 1080@60FPS? Idk lol

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>>101155125
I meant 1080@144Hz, oops

>>101155125
why not t430 with max cpu and max screen?

>>101155210
or t440p

>>101155210
way too heavy, bulky, no usb-c, and loud
I already have an x220 for testing meme OS', and I hated the T440P for my needs. I need semi-modern laptops that are sleek and practical.

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>>101155125
i really like my x270. i play minecraft with a custom mod list at the monitor’s native 1366x768 and it runs pretty smoothly. you might be expecting too much if you want 1080p@144hz though.
it’s a really nice laptop but not much of a gaming machine.

>>101155269
you can mod usb c charging into old thinkpads
requires you to have autism but if you have that you can do it easy
posting from quad core fhd usb c x230, would recommend but alot of tinkering
i dont see why the x270 wouldnt run minecraft, and there are always optimization mods and ways to get more fps

>>101155292
>too much if you want 1080p@144hz
you are 100% right
the igpu would explode

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>>101155292
>>101155318
Even playing osu would melt the igpu at 1080P 144Hz? Would really suck if even that wasn't viable. This dumb framework has badly spoiled me lol

>>101155453
try on your x220 to get an idea

>>101155125
I'm sorry but you are only allowed to upgrade your existing Framework laptop. I don't make the rules. Blame your fellow Framework shills, it's all they talk about.

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>>101155536
Take it from me, these are just macbooks for hipster software engineers. Exremely well made but stupid unless you need the performance while being more modular than new thinkpads. You can tell who they're made for by looking at their marketplace.

>>101155698
sex with kurisu

>>101112257
I am thinking of getting it instead of a chinkpad. Is FW13 a meme?
Are module ports slower than native ports? Meaning, HDMI lags and such. What is its battery life? Gentoo works well?

>>101155698
>for hipster software engineers
In other words, people that look worthy of respect when they pull out a professionally-looking machine.
You may cope as much as you want but people do judge you by looks first.
>inb4 b..but I don't care what others think!!1
lmao

>>101156823
that might be true for insurance/estate agent or any customer facing jobs, but for software engineer you don't really "pull out" a laptop that's docked 99% of the time

>>101156951
I am a researcher (physics) and I cringe whenever a student takes out his (yes, his, almost no girls here) thickpad to show a presentation. Especially if something goes wrong, most often a projector is not working properly. He then starts typing furiously in a terminal or a browser to fix an issue, wasting my and everyone's time. One hilarious case when a guy tried to then upload slides to a thumb drive and he could not.
I applaud their tenacity to endlessly fix stuff, but in the end, it is a reinvention of a wheel - we have laptops that work. In my experience, not once a macbook had this issue despite people reeeing they are a closed garden. Windows laptops fail, but rarely (1 in 100 cases in my memory).

>>101157030
Another fun case was when I held a course on some simulations. We asked people to install some needed software in advance (windows only). One student came with, again, a thickpad with a virtual machine, assuring me it
>worked yesterday
and infinitely had random issues like not being able to use a usb-key we had to use to activate the software, or random crashes. Don't know what VMs macs used, but they faced 0 issues even though they were visibly not computer geeks.

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>page 9
A Framework laptop comes to save the thread again

>>101151691
Thanks.

>>101158390
What do you like about this thing and why are you spamming it in the Thinkpad thread?

>>101158500
NTA but IMO it's a spiritual successor to older thinkpads
>easily repairable
>good build quality
>well-designed usb-c charging
There's also upgradeability, but it's a meme as nobody will keep making new mobos for an old chassis for a long time. The most you'll get is a next-gen CPU upgrade which is pointless in terms of performance.

>>101158721
NTA but I am new to this thread and the shilling couldn't be more obvious, I looked it up and it's a tinkertroon consoomer laptop that is clearly catering to people who watch "right to repair" youtubers like LinusTechTips, the build quality and keyboard looks like hot modern garbage. Anyone who falls for this doesn't deserve to be posting here imo.

I have an x61 tablet and I think I want to try upgrading the wifi card. (the one it has in it only supports 54 Mbits/sec) I can put middletons bios on it to disable the wifi card whitelist so any should work.

What card model, if any, would people recommend? Looking for something that ideally is fairly affordable but is able to give me better wifi performance?

>>101158740
mkg fags are not welcome here

>>101158500
>What do you like about this thing
Repairability, upgradability, the fact that it isn't made by some massive company with an overpaid CEO who takes joy from screwing over customers

>why are you spamming it in the Thinkpad thread
There doesn't seem to be another laptop general and this thread says it welcomes "other business laptops". Frameworks are sold to businesses, so yeah.

And I only post the Framework laptop when this thread is near the end of the catalog and therefore might become archived.

>>101156823
>jeetcode janny
>respect
KEK

>>101155125
>but it's a baseddev laptop
My nigga, you're posting paedophilic cartoons

>I'll change my mind when prices drop significantly
But if you've already bought it then why would you want prices to drop? That would just reduce the resale value of your laptop

>coreboot
Quite literally nobody cares about this

I have a bad T420s battery, are the cells worth saving? (16850 they are not as the package is too thin for them)

>>101159346
I mean I save all cells, but I also have a thing specifically about batteries.

In the way some autistic people see a train and go "hell yeah" I see batteries and think "hell yeah". Also the same thing with radiators, or heat pumps in general. But theres something about venting heat that just really scratches the autism itch.

Eurochads, how are your thinkpads holding up in the summer heat? Fans are getting a workout here.

>>101159514
Had to upgrade to a newer one because my X220 was going past 90 degrees just browsing 4chan and watching a youtube video.
X270 is doing fine, a little warm but nothing outrageous.

It's 30 degrees outside so it's moderately warm and the sun itself is pretty unforgiving.

>>101159466
cuz you're not an NPC

>>101092595
My P52 should be arriving in the mail soon. either today or tomorrow. cant wait till join the rest of you

I FUCKING HATE MODERN LAPTOPS

>>101159629
>my X220 was going past 90 degrees just browsing 4chan and watching a youtube video

my x61t doesn't do youtube very well (ancient gma965 graphics + modern youtube bloat means 720p is pushing it and 1080p is not gonna happen) but it does 4chan browsing just fine without getting that hot. I have the beefier heatsink/heat pipe in it, and I dont know what the cooling setup on the 220 is, but I feel like 90C from lite to moderate usage is a bit excessive. Did you try cleaning out the fan/radiators really well? Could the fan itself be running slower than it should be? maybe try replacing the thermal paste with something thats higher end like arctic silver/etc?

>>101160096
Some Asus TUF and Lenovo Legion machines are pretty neat. Might be the only two companies left where they aren't as strict on enshittification and the engineers manage to slip something a little better out onto the market once in a while.

I was looking at doing the pinmod on the x61 series that increases your CPU speed by increasing the FSB from 200 MHz to 266 MHz, but didnt like the idea of physically cutting a trace on the mobo.

However, recently I saw that for god knows what reason, installing a specific dell wifi card has the same effect. (as does -again for god knows why- shorting pins 24 and 52 of the left mPCIe slot)

Now this is something that I could see myself doing. Another step in the process however is using a program called "rweverything" to do something with the EEPROM in the RAM or something to make it run at a frequency that is compatible with the new FSB clock speed. I downloaded this tool, and for the most part I have no fucking clue what I'm looking at.

Has anybody tried this kind of overclock before?
Can you really just modify the clock speed of components with this "rweverything" tool? Would this work on more modern computers as well? Even ones which are not normally unlocked to allow this? Is there a guide or something on how to use this rweverything tool or other spd tools that will teach me 1) How to do a specific thing and 2) (just as important) *what* I am actually doing (so that I am not just blindly following instructions and actually understand what I'm doing)

>>tldr: what exactly is "rweverything", how do I use it, what can it do, how does it work, etc

>"RWEverything is quite a powerful utility designed along with hardware engineers, firmware (BIOS) engineers, driver developers, QA engineers, performance test engineers, and diagnostic engineers in mind. That being said, it's important to note that this is geared towards experienced users, any modifications made to your hardware settings very well could damage your system if something goes wrong. Use this product at your own risk."
Definitely find a specific guide in web search if no one chimes in on this overclock mod.

>>101161118
>massive gamershit that weighs 7kg and shines like a Christmas tree

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>>101159267
jeettops, lmao
maybe good for doing the sneedful

>>101110654
You're gambling if you're buying one off Ebay. Those thunderbolt ports and chips are trash. Lenovo or Intel's engineers should jump off a cliff for not testing them in the first place.

> quick question
How can I manage to use an eGPU with the internal monitor on my T420?

>>101160807
Yeah it's probably quite dirty inside, but I'm going to be away from home for a few months and needed a laptop, I didn't have any tools (or experience) to do a cleanup and maybe thermal repaste, so I chose to get a slightly newer model instead.

Maybe I'll do a cleanup when I get back.

>>101160034
Those are great machines. Always a joy to work with.

>>101162528
>7kg
*<2.5kg
Xmas lights can be turned off, sperglord

>page 9
down the toilet!
to the septic tank!
full speed ahead!

>>101164897
b-bump!

>>101162589
If you use a smartphone with an Android-derived ROM then guess what, Google is run by an Indian guy

Or if you use a smartphone with Ubuntu Touch or something similar, I bet Indians have worked on that too

In fact maybe you should avoid eating food too just to be safe, since that food was grown on a planet where Indians live

>>101164952
humping G40

>>101107651
I had 2, one was the black version and the other was newer one, but never had any success with those. raspberry pi 02 worked on the first try. I think it is reasonable to go for a slightly more expensive tool that works out of the box rather than cheap gimmick that a lot of people complains about.
>Some may output 5V on the data lines
This is a notable problem actually.

>>101164976
No need to seethe so hard rajeesh

>>101167391
I mean he is kinda right. Everything that you touch was made thanks to many people and some of the are certainly not your perfect imagination of straight, white, successful man (that you most likely arent), so just to be safe, you should stop using the internet, live in a cave and only use technology that you make yourself.

>>101167513
>"you uhh uhhh should just live under a rock because uhhh some indian guy may have had a hand in creating the good technology that you love"

i'm not even OP but this is definitely retarded jeet logic

>>101167682
cry us a river, you dalit

X1 Carbon vs T14
Which should I get?

>>101167898
T14

>>101168011
they are the same price but the x1 has better specs

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never obsolete

>>101168734
>sandy bridge
nope

I want a t15g5 AMD, but when does this shit start to depreciate?

>>101168386
X1 doesn't come in AMD so it doesn't have better specs than T14 AMD

>>101169241
Wait 3 more years if you want it for $300

>>101169764
I'd rather wait for a risc-v laptop at that point

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>>101169822
Then buy a T14 gen 1 or gen 2

>>101169862
Nah, I'm tired of old hardware. I'd rather buy slowshit but novel hardware like risc-v.

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>>101092595
>built myself a maxed out T420 back in the day
>all the various doodads and doohikies like docking station, docking station slice battery so I can run a secondary 9 cell, etc
>Eventually my father was in need of a laptop specifically to use in the garage as something to hook up to the garage TV for music, movies, and to interface with the OBD2 to tune his project car
>Gave him the T420 because I had graduated college by this point and no longer needed a laptop
>set up the docking station and various software he needs
>fast forward to today
>the 9 cells, both primary and slice no longer hold a charge for longer than 20 min each so the laptop is permanently tethered to its charger
>eBay 9 cells have all been shit as well
>father is REFUSING to let go of the T420 even as I've offered to get him something new

What is a more modern model of Thinkpad that can do the same job he wants? He specifically loves being able to dock and undock the laptop as needed.

>>101169925
Any thinkpad that has a dock RETARD

>>101169965
Which one FAGGOT? There's shit loads. What's the most modern that won't cost an arm and a leg?

>>101169755
Can't get AMD in my cunt, they are both Intel, the X1 gen10 has a 1240p and the T14 gen4 has a 1335u. The rest of the specs are pretty similar, but the X1 is slightly thinner and lighter.

>>101169971
T480
Now FUCK OFF

>>101169971
just get whatever the newest one that’s within your price range

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>>101169925
Use remote desktop or install Anydesk on the T420 and automatically fullscreen remote to a better machine at startup. Let him keep his old man computer.

>>101169925
>eBay 9 cells have all been shit as well
Then buy him a good one. Does Kingsener not make a T420 battery?

>>101170230
they do, or atleast t430 battery will work in t420

How do you feel buying a used laptop, knowing that a previous owner scratched his ass while using it, stuffing crumbles of shit in all seams which will never be cleaned out completely.
Or he was gooning to degenerate porn and stained the chassis with his semen. You do use UV light before buying, right?
How a repairman installed just barely working hardware and kept good parts to himself only to sell them to you later at a markup due to shortages of old parts.
How even though it's "like new" there are still stains on a touchpad that remind that you are a

poorfag

.
Are you also willing to get a used goods gf?

>>101171527
>Or he was gooning to degenerate porn and stained the chassis with his semen
nice projection
>im in thread full of things i dislike, how could this be happening?

>>101169072
does everything i want smoothly (including godot editor 3d), havent tested any games thoughbeit

>>101171527
i dont care nigga if i got it for 50 euro i aint complaining

>>101172013
And then 60 EUR for a new battery otherwise it is a gimped desktop (who am I kidding you can only buy a Chinese knockoff that will explode while you sleep). And 50 EUR for a new keyboard because the old is shit and has some weird European layout. And 100+ for an IPS screen, and so on.
Just buy new ffs, stop being a laughingstock.

>>101172069
>Just buy new ffs
no thanks
i buy everything used
i pay 0 taxes :)

>>101172084
>now it's a tax cope
What next?

>>101172103
cry more shill and i might i smash your skull with my coreboot + me_cleaner + 0 taxes paid + one more decacde thinkpad

>>101172107
>believing coreboot removes NSA shit
LMAO
>me_cleaner
>hm, yes goyim, by setting these parameters to 0 you definitely won't be spied on and it won't make you a person of interest, no-no

>>101172123
i literally work as nsa contractor you fucking moron
cant wait to spy on myself
i went through all my computer hardware under electron microscope btw

>>101172069
>>101172123
calling other cattle while shaming others for not CONSOOMING latest shit hardware
not the brightest troll

>>101172069
i bought my laptop for 50 eurobuxx without changing anything and it feels like its straight out the factory
youll NEVER make me buy modern consumer dogslop, chang.

>>101172130
Cool story bro
>>101172152
I did not call you cattle, I called you retards who think they save money by buying used, but in the end you pay almost the same considering replacement parts, lost convenience and wasted time. Sure, if you are a kid/undergrad it's fine, but a 20+ guy should be able to easily afford a new laptop and get on with his life. You are american/european (hopefully) not indian, so you have the means.
I would accept if you said it's just a hobby, but you claim like you cracked the code. You did not.
>>101172167
>coping this hard
I bet your craptop started swapping just by opening 4chin

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>>101092595
applefags totally BTFO by based T480

>>101172188
>I did not call you cattle
do you not know what goyim means?
did not read all that btw
btw you will never own an electron microscope because you are pooron

>>101171527
>>101172188
Why do you care so much if someone buys a used thinkpad? What do you stand to lose? Are you some applel/chinkshit seller?

>>101172197
anyway anons, this is so fucking frustrating. I have T14 gen 3 but that would last like 4hours.. i had to take my T480 (with low power igzo display upgrade) to this conference where there are no power plugs on the tables. The normie laptops already died after few hours of use and they had to put them near the wall where the socket is to charge them.

I want something with more modern CPU, but there is simply nothing else like T480.. all thinkpads above T480 have SHIT battery life that wont last whole day.

>>101172436
maybe the meme snapdragon?

>>101172436
T16 with 86wh batt + low power screen?

thinkbump

>>101172436
just buy a new macbook
simple as

Is $50 for a T440p a good price?

>>101172858
I bought a base model for more than that. If its fully working, I would say its a good deal.

what is the difference between t480s and t480?

>>101173512
Just hoping it has pretty ok specs. Took a bit of a gamble on it, since ThinkPads are usually way overpriced here.

>>101173646
the "s" is for "sucks", if I recall correctly

>>101173646
dual heatpipe, no dual batt, single sodimm ram slot + 1 soldered, supposedly slightly better built

>>101174056
Dual heat pipe works in the t480 too

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>>101174226
that's on the modding side, t480s comes with it by default

>>101174505
It's default with the dGPU model

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What thermal paste should I use, bros? I'm replacing the CPU on my t440p (4702mq meme). I have some spare Corsair TM30 I got from a friend but was wondering if I should try something else. Thanks.

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>>101174460
sad day

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>>101172858
Yes, that's a good price. I got a mint one at 60 the other day that was a base model with a backlit keyboard.

>>101174846
they don't make a significant difference, just use any brand stuff

Does anyone have a link to Chunky's old discord server? Years ago he got banned from the Thinkpad discord and I used to be friends with him. It's been a while though.

i got an x1 carbon gen 11 with ubuntu host os and nixos in a vm as dev machine

what accessories or shit should i get

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>>101175250
thanks, I'll do that.

Where the fuck can I buy a thinkbook plus gen 4 with the oled/eink combo? I was sleeping and didnt see it come and go.

Welp I bought an used Precision 3551. The listing said it wouldn't come with a GPU but the one I got did come with the Quadro P620. Godamn it made the heat, noise and battery issues worse. Turning it off in the Nvidia control panel did remove most issues.

Also I'm bummed out also that it came with 2x8gb sticks rather than 1x16gb like Dells often do. Means I can't upgrade to 32gb for cheap.

Is the T14g5 repairability a one time thing or will they continue the repairability schtick going forward?

Looking for a laptop to replace x230, and dear god, used thinkpads are overpriced in Europe. Looking for something not ancient to future-proof, but T14 with 16Gb start at 600eur + likely will need a new keyboard, fuck qwertz. Come on, T14 gen1 is 5 yo.

How much should I be spending on an x61?

>>101180077
max 50 usd

>>101180077
not many get listed anymore so depends how bad you want it... I honestly think jvscholz had a big impact on the desirability of such a machine in the past few years.

the supply for these older 4:3 machines has been drying up for a while now, only common one is the 14" T60 which people try and sell for retarded amounts on ebay and they just sit. 15" T60's still pop up relatively often, I just picked up a UXGA T60p with a 9-cell for 100 usd in decent condition but you've gotta check often

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>>101180772
Thanks, I had an x60 pop up locally for 75 but the boomer selling it doesn't know the specs. He gave me two "serial numbers" but none of them work on https://tp.krelay.de/index.php so I have no idea what he has. Unfortunately, I can't get put these numbers into Lenovo or IBM's website. Is there any other way to know what specs he has? The computer is in decent condition.

>>101181162
I'm not sure, I only use the site you linked. I think most x60's have 32-bit cpus so chances are it's one of those. I'd just ask him for an image of the part that shows the mtm number personally.

I will note that if you just want a 4:3 laptop, I'd recommend getting a used 15" T60/T60p with a flexview panel. I'm typing on a T601f right now with a NOS SXGA+ panel and it seriously looks fantastic. There's an SXGA+ AFFS screen for the X60/X61 but I think they're extremely rare and expensive (and there's lots of fakes). T60 is socketed too so you can just pop a T7600 in there and call it a day.

>>101181162
ask him to boot into bios and take pic of the screen
>>101181445
this but x60 is better if you want smol
64 bit x60 isnt that uncommon i have few

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>>101181445
Thank you, I will keep that in mind. I kind of wanted to get something smaller if possible. I would like to get something that's not a 32 bit cpu if possible.
>>101181469
I kinda wanted small, he sent me this pic and said he can take another one tomorrow (I think he's selling stuff for a family member). This boomer is pretty technically challenged.

new >>101181576

>>101181539
btw just gonna say this, i daily drove 32 bit x60 for long time
if you are linuxtard you will have it easy
https://www.hyperbola.info/
drives to offer 32 bit builds forever and is stallman approved
web browser ran fine no issues
but dunno what you do on your computers

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helping finish this thread