>>101141315
sex with kanna

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Anyone know if this has been bait and fished? 1T 5000 write/read for under 100€ seems too good to be true.

>fall for oled meme
>play metro exodus enhanced mostly because lmao RT
>turn on HDR
>get blinded by the ending cutscene as it takes place on a hill overlooking the rising sun
Totally worth it

Somewhere around 2018, I got a gaming PC with a 1060ti, i7 7700, and 16GB of RAM through a friend I handed the money to build one for me.
For various reasons, I need a new gaming setup, built from scratch/prebuilt, and I know I can't just go online and buy my exact setup. I can't even find prebuilts/cards from the RTX 2000 series anymore.
I check online and see 70 different variants for the 3060ti. I read reviews and see horrible stories regarding purchases, warranties, etc. I check youtube and see (pajeet) techbros talking nonsense, stroking their dicks and playing CP2077 and Warzone. I'm even willing to risk getting a second-hand setup if it means having a gaming PC that will last me another 6 years *at least* (because I don't intend to give up the old one).

TLDR; I want recommendations for a stable gaming PC. I'm not interested in a fancy-looking rig. I'm not interested in fooling myself that my new games run well because I'm using DLSS or TAA (well, I haven't really touched AAA games since 2020 except for Hitman, Death Stranding, and Dead Island 2, which aren't really AAA). My wish is to have an opaque tower, to crank up all the settings in a game to the max, and to comfortably play anything at 1080p 60fps that isn't shit like Minecraft.
I live in Romania with a budget of around a thousand euros btw, and my best friend as far as I can see is amazon.de

>>101141460
Now watch this full screen and post results:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LSkHMt3LmI

>>101141498
Intense but most of that is wasted as my screen isn't doing 4000 nits.

>Bought an AK620 a year ago
Am I on a terror watch list now?

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I'm getting the HUGE dark base Pro 901 for my case. I also want to have an installed dvd/blu ray player, even though I know most people don't these days (I have externals but I WANT one built into the computer). Does that case even have a place where the front panel can be removed to install one? It looks like one piece where you can only remove the whole thing.
My old case from 2016 had a little section you could remove so you could put an optical drive. Maybe that's not allowed anymore.

>>101141495
Try this: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/fHWmt7
I've left ~€100 in the budget for any shipping/import fees and such.
Card price is a placeholder since I don't know what the used market is like in Romania. If you have some budget left over, consider also a new 4060Ti or RX6800 at ~€400.
Everything else is fairly standard "1k gaming rig" but feel free to ask about the parts selection and reasoning.

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>>101141703
LOOK CLOSER LENNY

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>>101141495
Look for a used 7700 XT or 4060 Ti for light 1080p gaming (if you can use German Ebay do so):
https://www.ebay.de/itm/235611993600?epid=28061882377
See 1080p results here: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-magnetic-air/36.html
Spend up to about 500€ (or 50% of your total budget) on the GPU and the rest towards a system that won't bottleneck it.

I recommend something like this:
https://ro.pcpartpicker.com/list/pJnX6D
Googles says ~5000 RO ≅ €1000 so that was my goal, and as I said you can knock off a few hundred € buying the the GPU used. Also take a look at >>101141726 which is largely similar and run the numbers cross-shopping build part lists to see if importing from DE is a better deal.

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bought this monstrosity
i did not realize how big full towers are

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elp very much appreciated! After 9 years i finally wanna get a new pc and since i dont know a lot about this topic i need some advice for a complete build.

My budget is ~1000€. (I could probably squeeze out another 100€ if you say there are some parts where it is very important or makes sense, otherwise i would rather use it to maybe get a new monitor). Im from Germany and will probably simply end up putting in one of your suggested configurations into an online pc shop, let them build and ship it to me.

All i want to do with it is basically watch youtube, movies, twitch etc. and play games (For games i dont really care about ultra high settings more about performance and i just want to be able to play some games that came out the last few years like the Resident evil remakes, Red dead redemption 2 and maybe GTA 6 when it comes out).

Some requirements:
-Doesnt need flashy colorful lights or to look cool.
-I want normal Air cooling and not a water cooling system
-I need 3 usb ports in the front
-Preferably Nvidia graphics card (my old one was an AMD and it sometimes caused some annoying blackscreens and also i read everywhere that AMD in general causes more problems than nvidia)
Also i dont know anything about things like overclocking and buying new parts and adding them in the future so that is all completely irrelevant for me.

Im someone who barely ever changes anything if it its working alright so I just want another solid and reliable PC which i can use for atleast the next 5 years. Thanks in advance!

>>101141794
>mom you don't understand I need a full tower!

>>101141751
Wait. It's at the bottom of the case? Am I seeing things correctly?

>>101141828
I will just copy and paste this from the last thread because only one anon made a config and i would like to get a few different suggestions/opinions

>>101141828
I'll just repost the same basic rig from >>101141726 with the card moved up to the 4060Ti to fill out the budget.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/2gPvMV
Should be a good template to get you started. Maybe change the case to get the FPIO you want (or buy the type-C upgrade).

>>101141951
Thanks. I actually saw the other guys post and your reply and thought this sounds kinda similar to my situation lol.

Btw i see the "de" in your link so if you are german aswell can you recommend a site where i should buy a pc (select the config, let them build and then ship it to me)? For my last pc i used caseking and i remember being happy with the service but i just checked their site and their configurator is kinda shit, like you cant straight up choose the parts you have to select some base system first and it wouldnt let me select all the parts i wanted. So do you know any good shop?

>>101141851
Yes, that is the 5.25" bay.

>>101142021
The other guy is me - it just so happened that the Romanian fellow wanted to order from Germany. I'm not German myself so I can't help you with the integrator service, sorry. Were it me I'd just assemble it myself. It's not hard.

>>101142043
Ah i see. Well i know its not that hard but ive never done it before and this is a lot of money for me and im scared to fuck things up so i will rather just pay a litte fee for them to build it. Thanks for your help tho

>>101142025
Okay cool. It's very unaesthetic having it on the bottom, but at least it has one.

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>>101142247
Best aesthetic you mean.

>>101142306
Now I think about it, whenever I put discs in my current PC, I'm always having to hold usb cables and headphone jack wires out the way, so it being on the bottom is probably more practical.

My PC
>DDR 5 32gigabytes 12th gen intel nvme ssd
boots pretty dang recently
slower then my old SATA SSD PC
anything i should check do?
hardware failure imminent?

>>101142548
That's expected since 12th gen is the first generation with ddr5 and ddr5 itself takes longer to train

>>101142572
but shouldnt the boot time be better after a while?

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-200v-lunar-lake-lineup-allegedly-leaks-out-features-one-core-ultra-9-sku

67 XMX TOPS
48 NPU TOPS

AYYMDEAD SIMPLY FLUMMOXED AND UNABLE TO COMPETE IN AI

What would you say is your biggest gripe with PC building?

>>101142677
Fuck huge cases and ATX
>t. mITX & SFF fag

>>101142306
hello fellow pop user
the little drawer is neat, i keep a bottle opener there, for emergency uses

>>101142700
I sort my molex adapters, the removed pcie brackets and unused case screws. Real neato

>>101142626
It'll be the same unless you flash a newer bios that improved the training process

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>>101142677
tight spaces and connectors that are difficult to connect/disconnect. i just added a m2 wifi card to by mobo and it was a pain in the booty. still, i'm glad i didn't have to remove the gpu because that was extremely difficult the last time i did it. friggin pcie slot lock/clip thingy was almost impossible to unlock with the gpu blocking my fingers and i thought i broke the damn thing when it finally unlocked.

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>get the urge to buy parts early for ARL
>Z890 not out for months; B860 even further out
>possibility of mITX CAMM2 so no reason to DIMMs now
>SFX PSUs ATX3.1-compliant not until later in the year
>NAND production ramping again for cheaper SSDs later in the year
I JUST WANT TO CONSOOM NOW

>>101141315
Which of these is better? The 1st has 2x as much RAM but is almost the same price as the 2nd, which makes me think there are some kinds of strings attached
https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Prebuilt-Gaming-PC-GLX-99622
https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Prebuilt-Gaming-PC-GLX-99619

>>101142914
>get the urge to buy parts early for ARL
but that is where you fucked up

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>>101141726
>>101141771
thank you kindly anons

>>101142923
Why do you need 64gb of ram? Also for gaymen the 14700kf is only marginally faster.

>>101143028
I guess I don't. I thought it might come in handy if I ever get into AI generation shit but idfk

>>101141794
I envy you anon I had a chance to pick up this case for $60 but hesitatated
Still one of if not the best full towers you can get even if the lack of 3.5" slots kinda bugs me

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>want to upgrade my ancient system, look up 14th gen intels
>max memory: 192GB (?), dual channel only (??)
>ECC supported only on expensive W680 mobos which come with Intel I225 NIC that everybody has issues with
What a ripoff, think i'll grab a used Xeon workstation instead

>>101141703
Man I really want to put an optical drive in my PC and then I realize the last time I put a disc in my computer was installing Windows XP 20 years ago. I still have a few external drives and there isn't any disc to use.

>>101142751
i feel like it wasnt always this slow, only started happening a week or two ago

Got samsung 990 pro nvme ssd, without heatsink, since my mb has nvme heatsink already.
Question is, do I need to use thermal paste? Or "dry" contact is enough? Do new nvme SSDs run that hot?

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This Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Type C case didn't come with any screws, where do I get screws to mount parts in?

>>101143168
Your MB heatsink should have a thermal pad on it already. If it fell off or got misplaced, get a thermal pad, even the cheap blue chink one will do. Running without thermal pad is not recommended.
Yes, fast SSD runs hot. The faster, the hotter. You could get away with running without heatsink at around 4500MB/s.

>>101143192
Go to a local computer store and ask for fan screws, with a good chance they might just give you some for free.

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>>101143192
It absolutely should. So either bitch at lian li, return to seller or >>101143211 or hit up ebay for case screws as they are fairly standardised.

>>101143223
It was hidden in HDD tray

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>>101143072
>want to upgrade my ancient system, look up parts and cases
>RGB galore, MBs got dedicated RGB pins
>plastic windows everywhere, everyone must know about your sexual preferences
>"2,5 drive bay" is now translated to "screw it onto the case's backside"
>3,5 bays — kinda maybe, 5,25 bays — lmao
Yeah, life on the outside ain't what it used to be.

>>101143194
I see. I didn't check yet if thermal pad is or not. If it should, then it's probably there, thanks.

Recommendation for a 4TB "everything" NVMe? It will have my OS and programs, and I do some gaming and also some content creation that involves somewhat frequent saving of somewhat large project files (sub-1GB). Currently have a 1TB 970 Evo which has been fine so far.

>>101143278
>>"2,5 drive bay" is now translated to "screw it onto the case's backside"
>3,5 bays — kinda maybe, 5,25 bays — lmao
FRACTAL DESIGN R7 MOTHERFUCKER

>>101143300
Yes, nice case, thank you. I'm not saying that you can't find a good old-fashioned case anymore, only that I honestly expected them to be a lot more common than they are.

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>>101143192

>>101142677
retards who dont know how computers work that suddenly want to build a computer and think they know everything because they watched some youtube videos or got influenced by some post they read online.

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Should I buy the RTX 4060 or the 3060 Ti? They are the same price right now. In terms of FPS, the 3060 Ti wins, but it still uses DLSS 2

>>101143950
you should kill yourself instead, you niggerbrained coomer

>>101143973
open your mouth then

What network cards do you guys recommend if you don't have a motherboard which supports WiFi? I got a wireless router that I'd like to set up in the house.

>>101144031
Why not pull some cables?
It's a tedious job but it beats wifi.

>>101144108
I want an excuse to start filling PCIE slots and also because I frequently travel where I'd like to use WiFi. That, and I can't drag cables everywhere (still need to get more).

>>101142247
wronfg

Is the MSI PRO B650-S WIFI a good motherboard? Any reason not to get it?

>>101144031
AX210

>>101144031
Is it true that some network cards work only on Intel CPUs and aren't compatible with AMD CPUs?

Why is it only XFX that's specifically selling all those cheap RDNA2 cards?

>>101144031
I was gonna say Tp-Link Archer TX3000E but like fuck, they got the antennae on a stand that need to be routed by cable outside of the case and plopped down somewhere.

>>101144183
Sapphire styles itself as the premium radeon AIB, powercolor is trying to get in on that and the big bois (asus, msi, gigabyte) don't care at all. XFX has found an opening and made their move.

Which low-end to midrange Intel CPU from 12th and 13th gen offers the best balance between energy efficiency and performance (even if the e-cores don't do their thing)? There seems to be steep price competition between the i3-12100/13100 up to the 13600 in both the regular and T variants.

>>101144284
13 & 14th gen chips below the 13600K & 14600K are just repackaged 12th gen CPUs.
These have the worse Golden Cove P-Cores compared to Raptor Cove cores.
It probably doesn’t matter to you, but know what you’re getting.

>>101144183
Probably because the paltry margins on those RNDA2 cards isn’t worth producing for worldwide shipment.
I’m pretty sure Sapphire and PowerColor produces the 6700 GRE for Chinese market because it’s selling very well.
https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphire-launches-radeon-rx-6750-gre-10gb-starry-sky-graphics-card
https://www.powercolor.com/cn/products?id=1492658578&type=1695713499

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Looking to get a new case since my Phanteks P400A is too narrow to fit a 12VHPWR with the side panel (4080 Super), what would you guys recommend?

Also best looking cases?

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>>101143278
the absolute state of ATX PCs is really depressing, i feel you
>>101143300
i fell for Fractal meme once, i have Meshify 2, the HDD trays are a pain in the ass, and one of the threads is already stripped.
It's a joke compared to any server or workstation chassis where hot-swap bays are standard.
Why can't ATX cases have nice things...

>>101144445
>Why can't ATX cases have nice things...
Consumers don't give a fuck about solid mechanical engineering like what the server boys are doing.

>>101143278
Cooler Master Force 500
Zalman Z3
SilentiumPC Regnum RG4
Fractal Define R4

>>101144445
>>101144503
Alternatively, any old Dell OptiPlex or HP Workstation chassis.

Battlemage clocks leak out
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-200v-lunar-lake-lineup-allegedly-leaks-out-features-one-core-ultra-9-sku

8xe cores is 50% faster then 4xe cores at 2ghz
You should be able to solve this

>>101143523
>>101143223
>>101143211
There are 3 fans on the front of this case, no fans at the back. Is this a good configuration? Will the temperatures be near 44-47C just like the reviews?

>>101144549
>E-core 3.7ghz
>Muh raptorlake ipc
P-cores aren't obsolete any more? Estrogen bros, it's over...

>>101144556
What cpu cooler are you using?

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From the moment I understood the weakness of my mesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the functionality of the workstation machine.

You gamers cling to your mesh and glass, as if it will not become obstructive and impair you. One day the crude mass of multi-colored LEDs that you call a tower will go out of fashion, and you will beg my chassis to save you. But I am already saved, for the workstation is immortal…

...even in the second hand market and the dumpsters I serve the personal computing world.

>>101143278
>5,25 bays — lmao
I actually recently looked up what cases still have them and was surprised to see the relatively new Fractal Design Pop Air does. But I fear one day even they will do away with such "legacy" features.

>>101141315
>RTX 5000 Series (Q1 2025)
no longer q3?

>>101144692
previous predictions were q4 for 90/80 and q1 for 70

What are the best LGA 1700 motherboards (600 series) as far as expansion/connectivity/pcie lanes go? Does Intel still have an HEDT platform like they once did with LGA 2011 where I can get moar PCIE slots and lanes?

t. want to build a new workstation

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Day 446 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>101144692
Gddr7 mass production begins in Q1 2025 so it can't be 2024

>>101144800
Sapphire Rapids for Intel
Storm Peak for AMD

>>101144854
AHHHHHHH
im getting too old for waiting
at the same time nothig current is that exciting to warrant buying
when is intel gonna hurry the fuck up with skymont on desktop?

>i9-9900k
>RTX 3080
>2x16GB DDR4 3200MHz

Would I even benefit from a newer CPU? I play at 1440p.

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>moving my glass panel off like I've done a million times before to clean pc
>fucking explodes for LITERALLY no reason
>spend two hours hoovering glass out of my FUCKING carpet and table
>spend another hour picking glass out of my pc
>nice little glass shard finds it's way into my rubber slippers and cuts my foot
NEVER AGAIN.

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Why are high end LGA 1700 boards so ASS and feature starved? Look at this shit, there's NO PCIE SLOTS! Or SATA for that matter. We have 7 fucking slots on our computers. This shit has 3-4 at best.

>>101145071
If you want more lanes that will be $2000 please

>>101145071
Are you retarded? This board has 3x pcie and 4 sata connectors

>>101145071
Excluding the sata ports, I see 7 slots that communicate over pcie

>>101145071
>there's NO PCIE SLOTS! Or SATA for that matter
Wrong pic? I see both.

>>101145041
>doesn't post content
Fake story, didn't even make it interesting.

>>101145071
>high end
this is literally a budget z690 board.

>>101145112
>>101145116
>>101145134
>ESL reading comprehension

>>101145071
no board with a PCIEx1 slot could be considered "high end"

>>101145112
Yeah and my X470 board has 7x PCIE and 8x SATA connectors.

>>101145188
M.2. slots are pcie slots though

>>101145211
Show me an expansion card with ports out the bracket that I can put into an M.2 slot.

>>101145151
i didn't bother to take a picture of it but it's reassured me to never buy a glass panel ever again if it's just going to randomly explode from me breathing on it, I'm running my pc single panel for improved airflow now

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>>101145224
>be retarded
>buy motherboard with lots of m.2 slots
>wonder all the lanes are used for m.2 slots

>>101145274
>be retarded
>design motherboard with lots of m.2 slots

>>101145350
>be a business
>do market research into what consumers want
>turns out all of them want more m.2 slots except for this one retard

>>101143950
You can use the FSR3 Frame Generation with DLSS 2 and 3.5, basically the same thing for less money.
I recommend to avoid anything below 4070TiS, since there’s 0 performance difference with the previous gen but more hw related issues such as low bus width and VRAM

>>101145248
It's a fake post, because if it were real, you would have posted it here, and we could have enjoyed the keks for entire day.
Not to mention they don't explode for no reason.

>>101145368
I DON'T WANT YOUR DAMN M.2 SLOTS WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH THESE? Most people literally do not use more than a single slot, it exists solely for fast storage autism and has no functionality other than that. That's what PCIE expansion cards are for.

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*Shader Stutters In Your Path*

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>even the matx b660 boards spam m2 slots
this is actual cancer

>>101145460
Meds, now

>>101141794
I remember I bought that exact model in like 2017 and I had to return it because I found the size completely overwhelming lmao

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next gen CPU/Gpu will be shit wont it?

>>101145483
>actually defending this watered down garbage
You can't even find a motherboard with 3 PCIE slots at x8 speed anymore. You already have a hard time with just two. When did motherboard connectivity get this shitty?

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>>101141794
doesn't look that big to me
maybe a single ATX PSU taller than a mid tower

>>101145418
They save space
All my inert data is on external hdds/nas

Is upgrading SSDs worth it?
I am currently using a cheap ADATA 710 1 TB and I don't have any issues so far.
Though I've been thinking about upgrading to Samsung 970 on sale or any other good brand if the performance and reliability are worth the extra money.

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dust off your old gpus gamers
they have a new life being a frame gen renderer with lossless scaling

>>101145418
You seem to be very angry for no reason. M.2 slots are LITERALLY PCIE slots.
>>101145508
x8 3.0 = x4 4.0 = x2 5.0
Don't need more lanes if you have fast lanes. Very few things need excessive speed now that SLI is discontinued.

>>101145573
I just gifted my old pc with 1070ti to my girl niece...

>>101145508
A while back, we had switches on motherboards that could dynamically increase lanes to connect many devices to a CPU which is why old boards had so many full length pcie slots. Not sure what they're called since I forgot. PAX switches maybe?
When the company making these pcie switches got acquired and started costing $500 per chip coincides with the time that boards started having fewer pcie slots

>>101145660
sucks for you but i’m sure she is going to enjoy it. to be honest that scenario is better

>>101145608
To be fair it is kind of hard to find motherboards that have 5 or more expansion slots period these days. I like to have at least 6, so far I've only found LGA 1700 boards with 5.

> i5 13500 should consume around 154watts of power under 100% usage
what in the absolute fuck
I thought this was a 65 watt chip that I can tweak to draw even less power, particularly at idle?

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How fast/slow does Sagging happen on 4090s?
Do I have to check every day?

its been 4 days now and I couldnt detect any sagging using that shit with the water bubble.

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>>101144671
20+ cores, quad, even sextuple channel ECC memory capping at 768GB+ per CPU, 40+ native PCIe lanes, tool-less PCIe mounts, dual CPU socket systems, hot-swap HDDs/SSDs/PSUs, onboard IPMI remote management, onboard G200 GPU, 10+ onboard SATA, plastic tunnels for optimal airflow, even small things like internal USB and microSD slots...
is it a dream? is it the new PC architecture? no, it's just 8+ year old "e-waste" workstations...

>>101145573
It’s much easier to use fsr3

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>>101146056
why don't you just prop it up with those 8 dollar nubs

>>101145573
its a cool idea. some guy was able to use lossless scaling to interpolate his real consoles by splitting the video via capture card.

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>>101145608
>>101145508
>LGA 1700 chipsets do not provide PCIE X8 connections for GPUs, mGPU is basically unsupported at all
>you're basically stuck to using only 1 GPU if you have anything older than PCIE 4.0/5.0 lest your 3.0/2.0 cards are gimped
FUCK

>>101146152
X8/x8 bifurcation is possible just not on poorfag boards

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>>101146152
>he still holds on to the SLI dream in 2024

Is backside CAMM2 feasible like backside M.2?

>>101146278
Yes

>>101146278
but why? it sits flat plus it's not like you can put anything on the other side of the mobo. mfgs are gonna conver it up heatsinks anyways.

>>101146251
its not sli, its being able to stick in a nvidia and amd gpu at once or pool .e.ory for blender renders
you arevlimited to x4 speed now with rhis configuration

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Trying to help a friend get a PC. The most intensive game he wants it for is Fallout 4, but he's hooking it up to an older TV, not 4k. What's a good lower-end build for this?

>>101146397
Buy him a prebuilt for 600 bucks

>>101141315
please let kanna out

>>101146353
Since the footprint is larger it would let you fit a second module

>>101145991
Looks like it's 65W at 2,5 GHz and 154W at 4,8 GHz (Turbo). If you don't enable Turbo Boost in BIOS, you'll have your 65W CPU, but I don't you'll reach benchmark numbers that way.

Man, I kind of miss single core sometimes. These day it's full on bullshit, like they say that there are 8 cores, but in reality those 8 cores share 4 calculation modules, so that's actually closer to 4 physical cores and not 8, teehee!

I can't decide if I want a NAS or a full server. I see small NAS cases with lots of drives but I also want it to maybe have a powerful GPU and be useful for other stuff than just playing things of hard drives. But then I don't want it to be too big I'd still like it to be pretty small. What computer do I need for that? or case maybe?

>>101146207
>non-poorfag boards
WHERE ARE THEY

>>101146596
>but I don't you'll reach benchmark numbers that way.
FUCKING INTEL WITH THE LYING BENCHMARKS AGAIN CAN I EVEN TRUST PASSMARK NOW? I just wanted to pull some i5-8400T shenanigans and see how low I could go with desktop wattage and whatnot.
>in reality those 8 cores share 4 calculation modules
This is worse than Bulldozer. At least that one was straight forward to understand, you only get 50% the FPU performance with each module. With all this estrogen core shit? Who knows.

remember when high end enthusiast gpus used to be $500? the 5090 is gonna be more than $2000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et4a5rHiV0g

>>101145573
Somehow i have doubts my spare 290x can be used to accelerate anything my 7900xtx is doing, particularly when i've got framegen built into the driver.

>>101146647
Define R5, or Define 7 and buy the trays later if you need them

>>101146709
its all AMD's fault

>>101146670
It's the $500+ boards, unfortunately.
Extremely ridiculous.

I got a Z690 Taichi for $200 with 8x/8x slots but that board is originally like $450 or something

>>101146700
>With all this estrogen core shit? Who knows.
It's easy to understand
>p-core: high performance core with hyperthreading
>e-core: silicon efficient core without hyperthreading

>>101146377
> being able to stick in a nvidia and amd gpu at once or pool .e.ory for blender renders
Meds

>>101146700
You could run it at 35W if you want
It just won't be that great since intel mega doped their 10nm process for clockmaxxing first and power efficiency last

>>101146056
If you have to check it's already too late.

>>101143293
I recommend dedicated drives for OS, Programs, Games, Downloads, Storage. Nothing slows down a PC like processes competing for disk access.

is mx-5 good enough that came with the AIO or should i order something better like noctua nt-h2?

>>101147146
good enough

Is AMD drivers being bad still a thing?

>>101142923
Arrrgh. Terrible prebuilts. Can't you handle a screwdriver without poking your own eyes out? Are you a woman? A faggot?

>>101147196
no

>>101147196
yeah

>>101146941
>intel mega doped their 10nm process for clockmaxxing first and power efficiency last
The Bulldozer/GloFlo 32nm parallels continue.

>>101147196
>14700k
>Haha time to fire up some nostalgia
>blast my psx emu
>Breath of Fire 3 LETS GOOOOOOO
>error insta CTD
>wtf
>google
>download 1kb dll
>just works
>at my summer house
>old pc 2700k
>boot the emu from usb
>just works
>friend builds Ryzen 5 7600X rig
>give him my emu, he wants to replay ff7
>doesn't work
>googles it
>300+page thread on forum
>boils down to
>"don't play old shit man"

Will the Arrow Lake i5 K version use Intel 20A, or will it be literal silicon lottery?

>>101142923
both are quite overpriced
chances are you can find the same rig (minus the 64gb but why the fuck would you want that) for less
also amd cpus are just better, if you gonna drop more than 1.5k on your rig go for them

>>101147196
I've been on AMD for a year now, having been on Nvidia previously, only issue was CS2 having crazy stutters and freezes on release.

Does anyone know how much the 13 series depends on ram speeds? I'm looking at a 1355U series laptop that's pretty good deal aside from it having only 2400 MHz DDR4.

Also, is there any site for easy comparisions of Intel APUs? Ryzen chips are easy to find, but's difficult weight compute vs graphics for intel laptops.

>>101142923
The difference likely stems from the Ryzen system being a year older. In my experience larger vendors are pretty stupid on their pricing and just do initial price - time, so you get dumb shit like 10 year old parts selling for a grand. It's a pretty good sign you're being overcharged.

I got 5.1 surround sound speakers yet I can only get 2 working, is there some driver I forgot to install for my Realtek ALC892 Codec?

>>101147146
>>101147160
mx-5 is extremely faulty paste and it has been discontinued. pay the premium and buy quality.
once again do not listen to clueless techlets on /g/

>>101147805
Roman, plz.

>>101147842
Get the fuck out

Redpill me on mini itx builds

>>101147871
smaller pc, some cases look really good, so far the only issue I see is that you might have temp issues if your case is shitty

i'm looking for the best 180mm fans i can get to replace the stock ones on my fractal torrent compact. by best ones i'm talking about noise levels (mine are not audible until 75% capacity but above that level it's a helipad at home) and i want more air inside with less noise

suggestions? has to be black colored to fit the case

are prices ever going down, holy shit
gotta pay 1.4k euros for a half-decent rig

>>101141315
So how shitty exactly is text on qd-oled monitors? Everyone I know is poor so I've never seen one.

>>101147871
pros:
can say
>let me guess, you need more
small
cons:
possible cooling issues
more expensive
little to no expandability
builds are harder to do
cable management can be a nightmare without custom cables

>finally build pc and everything seems to be working fine
>touch case while its running and feel constant static on my hand
I'm so fucking done, I checked for exposed wires and everything.. I don't know how else I would fix it..

>>101147842
mx-6 or nt-h2 are better options, which one of these is the better one can't say. kryonaut is not suitable for average joes workstation, it's for enthusiasts and low temp aplications.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx4En-2PzOU

>>101148110
check if the outlet you're plugged into is grounded properly (multimeter/ground testing plug), could also be a faulty power cable

>>101148014
Good for the 4k ones.

>>101148153
nvidia keeps on winning baby

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>>101146122
>why don't you just prop it up with those 8 dollar nubs
the Gigabyte Card came with anti sag bracket and you screw it directly to the case and the GPU.
I dont trust any of that shit tho.
>>101147029
I'm paranoid tho

>>101148355
Buy that $8 support for peace of mind, or use a toilet paper tube.

So two intake and one exhaust fan is all I need? Feels kinda lame

>>101148450
Generally yeah. Adding more fans doesn't do much (though a side intake to blow over your gpu can give some notable temp gains) next to just having fans push moar air.

>>101148450
You'll get maybe a 1ºC improvement by adding one extra intake.
Adding too many fans to your case worsens airflow, temperatures, and operating noise.
You need to consider custom water cooling with a high-quality pump if you want to significantly improve system temperature.

>>101148140
mx-4 just werks does it also not

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>4070 super
>12 gb vram
>$590

>7800 xt
>16 gb vram
>$490

explain this

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>>101148505
MX-6 is affordable as well.
Don't buy Kryonaut pastes for long-term application.
>'My Kryonaut fine'
No it's fucking not, Thermal Grizzly literally announced a new line of longer-lasting paste.

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>>101148552

Is there a website that compares monitors like kimovil does for phones?
Currently looking at the pcpartpicker link in the OP but I'm looking for something
>1440p
>At least 144hz
>G Sync
>Good screen
>27in seems to be the sweet spot.
>Non curved
>Price: I guess up to $600

>>101148552
for me, used 6800 xt

>>101148552
>DLSS
>RT performance
>NVENC
>CUDA
>DLDSR
>RTXVSR
>just performs better overall

I hate nvidia's pricing policy, but their cards are just better if you do more than gaming
even then, if you don't plan on doing RT/PT gaming with upscaling, why would you even need a $600 GPU for? just buy a used 1080ti or 3080 and call it a day.

>>101148552
>oh you're running out of VRAM for newer games? Just upgrade to an even more expensive next gen card

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>AMD Ryzen 9000 (Jul 2024), 9000X3D (Sep 2024)
>Intel Arrow Lake (Q4 2024)
>Intel Battlemage (Q4 2024)
>RTX 5000 Series (Q1 2025)

you basically have to wait until Q1 2025 unless you want to lose a lot of money now, right?

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>>101148552
Please understand, VRAM is very expensive and a small indie company like Nvidia can't possibly afford more.

>>101148653
Check out rtings, both the website and video reviews of monitors

Does anyone remember that pseudo-ssd m.2 card that Intel made for hard drives that made your loading times slightly better? But it was really crappy because compatibility was ass (only select Intel CPUs, and m.2 slots were more high end) and also short lived because SSDs just became cheaper?

fuck anons
i really should not have gotten the 4070
and now its so close to blackwell that getting a 4080 super or even worse a 4090 would be a bad decision
and a 7900xtx isnt really much of a leap either
a 4070 is like gpu purgatory

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How screwed am I? No, I cannot return it.

>>101148878
lol
lmfao

>>101148865
if you dont want it ill take it out of your hands for free

>>101148878
User error, buy another case.

Good cheap mobo for a 14700K? DDR5 at least

>>101148909
no im going to use it
i just have a meme monitor resolution. 5120x1440 120hz gsync
its just not enough oomph to really drive it without framegen, which only exists for a handful of games
if i run the monitor in pbp mode 1440p its a great card
was just a poor purchase on my part

>>101148865
I like my 4070 ti super

>>101148940
It'll take months and the rest of my parts are here. I'm gonna take my chances and try and straighten it out

>>101148865
>and now its so close to blackwell that getting a 4080 super or even worse a 4090 would be a bad decision
it's not a bad decision, blackwell will be atriciously overpriced.
I wouldn't go to the 4090, but a 4080S will be between the future 5070 and 4080 for sure both in performance and price

>>101148968
All Z790 boards below (DDR5)
ASRock Lightning WiFi
ASUS Gaming WiFi7
Gigabyte Aorus Elite X AX

Should I wait for next gen nvidia? I only need big memory for gen AI. Do you think we will see a gpu with more than 24gbs?

>>101148864
Optane?

>>101149102
RTX 5090 is rumored to have a 28 or 32GB memory configuration.
Every SKU below it is expected to have the same capacity as the 40 series counterparts.

>>101149102
If we do it'll be like stupidly expensive. Not that you'll be able to get one since all their ressources go into datacenter cards.
Your best bet for a consumer GPU might still be a used 3090. I got a ti for 780€ last august. If you're willing to run a seperate server than you might fare better with a bunch of old workstation cards, but no idea where to get them cheaply.

>>101149102
Get are 40/3090 or workstation card, stop shitting up gaymer supply

>>101149188
5090 Is not going to be bellow 3K Euro is it?

>>101149368
I am guessing between 2000-2500$ MSRP. The practical price after europoor tolls and price surge with high demand will push it to around 3k probably though.

>>101149368
It's gonna use DLSS4 to dynamically upscale the price so that it is always 10% more than what you can afford.

>>101148878
Do you smash it with fucking hammer? How the hell does a case bend like that?

>>101148766
You can always resell in second hand market and make most of your bucks back.

>>101141315
Imagine if AMD were to release a 5950x3D and a 5900x3D. Wouldn't that be crazy haha?

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POORFAGS THIS IS NOT A DRILL

>>101148878
OH MY GOD
WHAT HAPPENED

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>>101149503
>I paid this much for a fucking 3060 Ti back in August/September 2022

>>101149445
Just feel like since Jensen told gaymers to fuck off, he's fulltime AI faggot scalper, so will put that bitch for some exorbitant price --the incremental python squeezing of few percent every new gen was a meme they used for gamers

>>101149458
>>101149509
It was shipped in a container. Something crushed it on the journey.

>>101149521
Yeah but anyone who isn't a retard would rather have a 3060ti and a 7900 xtx.

>>101149503
MERC OUT

amd fan here. i always wished i had an nvidia gpu instead of a poorfag gpu (radeon)

>>101149556
Obviously. I don't care how much it is discounted, I am not buying a Radeon GPU again.

>>101149503
Does this card have the same random wattage spikes as the 6950XT? Could a 750w PSU handle it ?

>>101141315
yo about to pull trigger any thoughts?
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/CCdvMV

>>101149503
I have been waiting two long years for this and now I think it should be lower but I know it will go up in price once the new series release.

>>101149627
PSU is overkill, 750W or even 650W is fine.
Get a CL30 memory kit, also picked a larger 4070 Super that will run cooler and quieter.
The video card fans will be the loudest component when you’re gaming, the €30 premium is worth it imo.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/9KhG89

>>101149627
>https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/CCdvMV
Why are you paying $600 for the 4060?

>>101149545
Why can’t you just be normal and pick a case that’s available in your country?

>>101149627
Get CL30 memory instead.

>>101149503
amazon seller scam not sold by amazon.

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>>101141315
Telling ppl to buy GPUs in the 600 bucks range that come with 12gb VRAM in 2024 should automatically get you gun down.
Stop being a Ngreedia drone.
https://youtu.be/dx4En-2PzOU
https://youtu.be/P2qs2lLdWHY

>>101149625
navi21 never had voltage spikes if you bought a proper custom board instead of ref model.

>>101148878
oh boi

Do PSU screws come with the PSU or case? I just realized I have a PSU but no PSU screws

>>101149503
Not a Gaydeon fag but if legit it's a decent deal

>>101149840
Case usually iirc.

>>101143950
I just checked out this milf site from pic rel while on two weeks of nofap and the brief visit did nothing to me. I am ascending.

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>>101149770
>>101149843
rip

>>101149726
In shitholes like mine nobody sells PC parts

>>101149503
who in their right minds would put $700 on an ayyymd gpu

>>101149840
both psu and case will provide the screws

I just use a cheap 650 watt 80 plus

Samsung gen5 nvme when?

>>101149893
She didn't age too well desu.
Will you still be able to keep your streak after looking at her younger(bald) self?

>>101149986
Meme that has zero practically noticeable performance uplift.

>>101149912
Sounded way too good to be true anyway.

>>101149503
>buying GPUs with literal biodegradable masks
SHYGDDT

>>101150049
Sour grapes chink ssd cope

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https://youtu.be/TKMydHcJxtE?si=oEYDsFDiYs_m9BTl
Reminder that AMD is so cheap that not only are they using chiplets as a cost cutting measure, but they are also using non-carcinogenic pcb masks thinner than paper that biodegrade over time.

>I can eat my GPU once I'm done using it
What's the problem exactly?

>>101150029
I'm not really interested in sifting around online to find it. If you post it I'll look, but otherwise not interested in spending time in lustful spaces anon.

>>101149926
ask the people who spent $800 for a 12gb 4070ti thats worse than a last gen amd card

>>101150076
I love my KC3000 thank you very much.
Have fun wasting money.

>>101150134
xfx issue, not a issue on sapphire/powercolor.

>>101150232
debunked, this is within AMD spec

>>101150249
xfx bought reference boards and decided that was a good enough with a different cooler slapped on. sapphire/powercolor use their own custom boards.

Why is there such a small performance gap from the A580 to the A750 and from that to the A770?

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>>101150184

>>101150261
based sapphire/powercolor

>>101150261
Is XFX the AMD of AMD? The poorfag fairy godmother?

>>101149503
I already bought, 6800 16gb for 300$, pretty comfy.

>>101150316
Wait you bought it from one of those shady Amazon sellers? And it was legit?

>>101150324
Nah, eastern europe on sale.

>No highend rdna4
>Mobile will be using rdna3.5 instead of rdna4
>No rdna5 until late 2026
its over for amd.

>>101150470
Radeon has been chronically short on money since GCN.

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I just remembered that there are still people that play with 60 fps

>>101150470
amdisaster

>>101146964
what if I buy a new pc and it happens to me?

can i buy a good pc at 12-15k in euros? including monitor, mouse, keyboard, etc. for gaming

>>101150561
12-15k of what?

>>101150470
nothing wrong with letting your competition win

What are some good budget mice?

>>101150588
euros

>>101150622
Mice are extremely subjective, what specifically do you want? If you really don't know then I'd recommend the cooler master mm711

>>101150622
what is budget for you and what are you looking for? pulsar xlite on sale on amazon is a pretty good deal atm

>>101150470
It is all going to CDNA to wipe the floor with hopper. https://chipsandcheese.com/2024/06/25/testing-amds-giant-mi300x/

>>101150622
Probably some chinese ones, also check site
>https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/database
You can even add the mouse and compare mouse outline size to other one so you can find something that fits your hand.

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>>101150672
amdelusional

>>101150710
Yeah I guess microsoft getting on stage with AMD saying they are buying into instinct is all bullshit.

>>101147129
Eh, does that really make that much of a difference in day-to-day use? Part of the reason I want a giant capacity NVMe is to move away from the multi-drive clusterfuck that is my current PC.

>>101150289
XFX is XFX. They are Tier 2 AIB.
https://wccftech.com/xfx-china-busted-customs-seize-5840-graphics-cards-worth-3-million-usd-mislabeled/

>>101150288
Indeed, rest are imitators.

>>101150657
>what specifically do you want?
I am happy with the G502 I have on my main but I need to buy something for a quaint office PC. I would just re-use my Deathadder 2013 but that thing doesn't scroll anymore and double clicks like hell. And the basic optical mouse from Microsoft is being used by someone else right now. So anything at or below that tier is fine by me.
>>101150658

>>101150767
get the deathadder v3 wired then. 54 bucks and you can see if lightweight gamin mice might be something you enjoy

how the fuck could i explain to my retarded friend that amd sucks for gaming and overall desktop experience is worse than on nvidia

his arguments
> i will have npu in the cpu so i will not need to run ai on my gpu
> vulkan support is better
> linux support is better
(last time used linux with nvidia card about 4 years ago and then switched to mac)
> i would not buy 3060 because it has less vram than 6800xt
> i don't care about rtx

>>101150792
>30000 dpi
Damn that's a lot of DPI since 2013. Around the same price point as the current G502 as well. Might try it out if I don't need another mouse with lots of buttons since I do like to play Quake every now and then.

>>101150842
you cant
they will die on their shit hill
there is zero reason to buy amd these days
nvidia destroys them on every front but price and thats because nvidia is king dick they can do whatever they want

>>101150561
No if you are not sinking into 200k+ into an A100 cluster you are a coping poorfag subhuman who should leave this board.

>>101150842
tell him NVDA has been outperforming AMD

>>101150842
How much do you want to lie?

>>101150842
Minus NPU retardism this guy is stuck in 2018/2019 like I was. Bring up all the features NVIDIA has besides CUDA I'd say and explain the merits of all that shit. Oh and the recent drivers that they released for Linux.

>>101150860
dpi doesnt mean anything. stick to the dpi setting you always used like 800dpi. might be worth it to go higher if you are interested in playing with higher polling rates

>>101150875
He doesn't need to lie.
>>101150894
Yeah I know, I'm just remarking on big number go bigger over the years. FPS fags like to stick between 400-800 DPI anyway at 500-1000 polling rate as far as I remember.

>>101150911
4k and 8kpolling is all the rage rn but you need a good pc for that and it doesnt make a lot of difference. most pros at least in cs2 still use low sense with 400-800dpi at 1k.

>>101150842
> i will have npu in the cpu so i will not need to run ai on my gpu
NPU perfermance isn't even in a similar league to gpu. It's a marginal accelerator that barely improves on (shitty) CPU inference. Greatest bottleneck of CPU inference is shitty (usually dual, at most quad channel)DDR5 memory bandwidth anyway. Cheap android phones had them a decade ago.
>vulkan support is better
Vulkan works perfectly fine on nvidia. If you are linux gamer dxvk is slightly more performant on AMD, but Nvidia still performs mostly fine.
t. daily diving 3060 Arch.
>linux support is better
True but follow simple driver installation instructions and Nvidia works without any major problems. Refer to above.
>i would not buy 3060 because it has less vram than 6800xt
Unless you are AI fagging 12 gigabyte is enough. The cards will be obsolete through raster long before vram.
>i don't care about rtx
DLSS is still noticeably superior.

>>101150873
aight now for real? what can i get for 15k max?

>>101150842
just tell xher that he'll never be a women

>>101141335
not allowed

>>101151112
>>101151112
>>101151112

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>>101150512
Well they have 8-12gb of vram in 2024, so it's either 60 fps or lowering textures.

>>101150512
i play at 59.94

>>101150842
>i would not buy 3060 because it has less vram than 6800xt
Why are these two cards even being compared?

>>101146964
this happened like the week the card launched lmao

>>101150842
>>> i will have npu in the cpu
lol