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>>101151112>funko popEven more cringe than anime girls. Giga cringe.
>>101151112you can just tell its from a third world just from the wall alone
>>101151112where do you find pics of those anime pc case builds
noctua fans or phantek fans better?
What are the most inexpensive 10-bit color displays I can get these days?
What 4K displays are people buying these days? Is 4K IPS still a thing with the advent of OLED?
>>101151259noctua for performance, quality and quietness. is that your build? if so I had a question about your custom cable sleeves
>>101151290yes it is
amd sucks ass
>>101151160The Americoid fears walls that aren't made of cardboard.
>>101151308I wanted to do custom sleeving and length on my PSU cables but I wasnt sure if its better to do it custom or use the original cables that came with the PSU and just cut them to length.
I have noctua d15 sitting around, but I am too lazy to order am5 socket brackets.
>>101151377You don't have to order one, Noctua will send one for free if you have your receipt for your d15
>>101151342mine aren't custom, they're what came with psu. i don't think you need custom cables unless you're working in a really small case with no room for extra length
dont consume until new gen comes outdownload fpshttps://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/
>>101151464>FSR1 tier turd scaling>TV interpolation tier "frame gen"How the fuck do people gaslight themselves into thinking that this looks good?
>>101151259phanteks
>>101151464I guess it's cool in games that can't run over 60fps like elden ring, but it's not even close to DLSS or even FSR3
stupid questionIf these have the same performance core clock and roughly the same boost clock, what's the difference? What difference does 2 cores make?
>>101151567>What difference does 2 cores make?Depends what sort of workload it is crunching.
someone please talk me out of getting a curved 4k qd-oled monitor (AW3225QF)
>>101151139>even knowing what funko pop isI don't
>>101151615Well now you know what it is. Cultural and linguistic osmosis is inescapable.
>>101151112that's hatsune miku
>>101151609It is too good anon, you;'ll be disgusted by anything lesser.
Finding drivers and software control for onboard audio is a fucking nightmare, what are some good value sound cards that I can buy which would be an worthwhile improvement over the ALC892 chip?
>>101151259T30 is fine if you plan on running it under 1500~1700 RPM.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA_WxvTbTeA
>>101151736Any reason to use a sound card over an external solution?
>>101151637>guy buys 1k+ monitor>pairs it with budget amd?
>>101151736get a dac and amp setup/schiit stack
>>101151753I forgot the 7900 xtx is a budget card. I should've bought a 4070 right?
>>101151753Where do I find budget 7900 XTX's for my build?
>>101151519works on my machine>>101151555the issue is framegen only natively exists on a handful of titles this fills that gap
>>101151786There is deal on amazon rn some anon posted it in previous thread.>>101151781No goy. just waste 2k on jewvidia also make sure to buy jewtel with telaviv backdoors at the same time.
>>101151805>There is deal on amazon rn some anon posted it in previous thread.Extremely shady third party seller, not trustworthy.
>>101151789Are you just retarded or shilling? I can't tell at this point.
>>101151805>with telaviv backdoors at the same time.Guess i'm just fucked then.
>>101151825you can use the app to watch anime with 3x frame genno more stutter in panning scenes
>>101151825what is your issue with it genuinely curious i just bought it the other day and thought it was magic and wanted to share with anons
>>101151856You bought a $5 software when you could have bought a 4090 to give Jensen your money which he is naturally entitled to.
>>101151757>dac and amp setup/schiit stackI have no fucking clue what any of that nerd shit is, but I will read to find out.
>>101151751More power, better features, better software, less noise, can install it in multiple systems.
>>101151884Schiit are a burger company who sell headphone amps and dacs. A stack is referring to one of each. A few other relatively entry level but well regarded units come from companies like JDS labs (known for their atom lineup) and Topping.
>>101151904Is this bizarro /g/?
>>101151936Feel like schiit uses ancient hardware at this point, lol.
>>101151847And make it look like smeared shit? No thanks.>>101151856>what is your issue with it The fact that it objectively looks like shit. I genuinely can't wrap my head of how you guys think it looks anything remotely close to good.Similar to weird trannies in linux forcing global FSR1.>>101151868I don't use interpolation on nvidia neither you obsessed amd faggot
>>101151904>software>featuresin... a sound card?>less noiseabsolutely not
>msi is cheap chink shit trash>xfx is a joke>amd gpus in general have cheap build quality>evga is dead and gone and will not honor warranty anymore>niggabyte is famously unreliable and has bad warranty>ANUS is not what it used to be with chink tier warranty>nvidia high end reference pcbs famously prone to failure>not even mentioning mobo/case clusterfuck yetwtf do you buy if you want your gpu to last these days (if anything)
>>101151969Das boo Schiit.
>>101151969It is all ancient if you really boil it down - human hearing isn't that sensitive and when some rando came out of nowhere NwAVguy (who then disappeared - we can only assume he was assasinated), shat all over the big players by releasing a design that could be made real cheap and wiped the floor with units costing hundreds upon hundreds of shekels actual advancements in sound quality from amps and dacs has basically slowed to a crawl. You buy real fancy units for secondary or tertiary features (the fancy steel case, I/O etc etc).
>>101151987>nvidia high end reference pcbs famously prone to failureWhat are you referring to?
>>101151969good audio equipment stays good for the most part
>>101151987forgot>3090/4090 are furnaces almost universally waiting to break like its the 8800 gtx/ultra era again and are otherwise shit quality products on their own as with most reference high end nvidia gpu>vertical mounting tends to fuck up heat dissipation somehow
>>101152028If you are going for digital no tubes, I don't really see any point of getting schiit stack when you can get better for better price.>>101152054schiit is digital, only tube amp stay "good" or rather unique.
Give me one good reason why I shouldn't plop my modern cases onto my desk and let it lay flat like the beige days, putting my monitor on top of it.
>>101151987PNY is good if you're getting a 4070 Ti Super or 4080 Super, hard power limit but exceptional cooling and noise performance.RMA is bad but at least they're available on Amazon for quite cheap, so you can easily just send it back within their reseller guarantee.
>>101151977i personally dont think it looks like shitit something you cant see in videosif you are going by videos your opinion is objectively wrongbut you are entitled to your wrong opinionare you also the type to use crystals on your audio setup?
>>101152112It isn't structurally designed for it so your monitor will cause the flimsy side panel to buckle. Unless you are a sff user then the case is so small the corners will support it lol
>>101152112 the case produces noise, creates air flow, takes desk space, is unergonomic and monitors are ploppered on a monitor arm
>buying amd>ever
>>101152129it depends on games but just the fact that it tries to interpolate the UI in games makes it look like shit 90% of the timeI won't even talk about anime/movie upscaling, it just looks like shit and unnatural as a whole.
>>101152129shit is shit until nvidia says it is premium shit, then shit is essential.
>>1011520293080, 3080 ti and 3090 committing seppuku at random because of power spikes.
>>101151112Might anyone happen to know which figurine is on the desk?
>>101152145>laptop
>>101152145>14900K and 4090 on a laptopmolten thighs
>>101152131>It isn't structurally designed for it so your monitor will cause the flimsy side panel to buckleShouldn't be a problem with thicker, stiffer side panels or older cases. Hell you could put it on the tempered glass probably. If it's a light 1080p monitor it should be totally fine.
>>101152169>>101152174>>101152180STOP THE COUNT
>>101152029geforce fx8000 seriesmaxwell fermisome quadro cardsto name some off the top of my head
>>101152201Was fx where bumpgate came from? I forget.
>>101152129I pirated and tried it. First of all, it doesn't scale UI elements, unless in game settings/mods let you change it, which constantly looks wrong. Second, still images can look okay but it catastrophically shits the bed in motion. I won't bother with civility, you are straight up retarded if you don't notice it. But I guess that can be a "blessing".Just lol at using it using it for animation or real life footage. We should revoke eye privilege and give it a blind guy who might appreciate it better.>>101152151Mindbroken whiny little faggot.>>101152145>buying amd>everbased>Laptop>4090Mcringe
>>101152218bumpgate was tesla 1.0/2.0 (7000, 8000, gtx 200)forgot that
Why is leaded solder not standard on all GPUs?
>>101152263>Environmental regulations, especially for EU market>DEI demands for ESG money
>>101152180It's my DTR which I use for work. I have 13900k and real 4090 at home.
>>101151519You don't even need to use the scaling feature, just turn on the framegen.
>>101151987avoid PNY too, their RMA is a joke too like ASUS
>>101152251i think you are lying and are not being honest. i dont use the scaling part, only framegen. you are probably using it wrong like not locking your fps to 1/2 your refresh rate of your monitor or your gpu is so shit it can’t maintain the base fps required for 1/2 refresh. or you are just super autistic and are the type to kvetch about 1ms input latency
>>101152294>environmental regulationsPCBs are not meant to be biodegradable the retarded geriatric kalergi-loving lawmakers, they have to be carcinogenic to last. Though since planned obsolescene is the current get rich quick scheme, there is a conflict of interest here.
People who will spend $2k on a PC but then $10 for their keyboard and mouse are actually subhuman
>>101151987ASUS unironically has the best RMA & warranty after all those new commitments they've made in writing (legally enforceable).They made good hardware anyway.https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1050442/https://gamersnexus.net/news-features/confronting-asus-face-face#commitments
>>101152356yeah noi will never buy asus againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvDcHwvTqZw
>>101152381>Upload date: May 30, '24>GN Upload date: June 14 '24Tell him to have his claim re-classified.
>>101152343Half of that budget but that's still me>7600+3060 build>Decade old keyboard>5 dollar mouse>15 years old shitty led monitor>Literal dollar store Chinese headphonesYep, it's gaming time!
>>101152413i really don’t give a fucki hope those chinese niggers go bankrupt i will never buy asus againso far i have 2 companies i will never buyasus and aceri haven’t purchased an acer product in almost 20 yearsmy hatred goes to the gravefuck them
>>101152145You got the laptop with a 14900HX!How’s the performance like? Do you have it connected to a monitor
>>1011520292080 ti ded micron memory
>>101152434Then don't post outdated shit, it's completely irrelevant to their new process.
>>101152464>outdated>last month ok changthe only reason you are “changing” is cause some jewtuber called you outif it wasn’t for that you would still be assfucking the common man with no lubeno respect for you and no telling when you will quietly change your process back to how it was before fuck youif you wanted to keep me as a current and future potential customer you wouldn’t have acted like such a nigger but here we areyou not getting my money
>>101152497No one cares about you or your money.That kid's getting fisted by ASUS Czech Republic, maybe he should've escalated the issue through HQ contacts.
>>101152086They're just coping because they bought that crap.
>>101152525you should changim not the only oneno money no business rest in piss
>>101152062>>101152201Still better than buying a Radeon GPU since the GCN era. The build quality is famously cheap and thus famously poor durability. It's also so fucking easy to brick their GPUs, assuming you actually manage to diagnose the issue in the first place which is also harder.
got the radiator for the computer i'm building. gonna server-rack mount it.
>>101152561looks fun anon
>>101152545Don't even act like you buy premium productsNo one will miss losing your business, it's quite obvious you're a seething poorfag.
https://a.co/d/0crAdhuOthis is a scam isn’t it
>>101152435I got it for the 4090M which I need for Resolve while travelling. Cpu gets 30k in cinebench with HT on.
>>101152343spent double that and still use a cheap kensington mouse and a roccat i got for freewhy would i bother spending more money?
>>101152584quite the opposite but convincing you is a fools errand. believe what you want. won’t change anything stay seething asus damage control rep.
>>101152586YesThe 4080 Super is way better
>>101152604All their MSRP TUF Super cards are OOS, because people know it's one of the best base models.Cope & seethe poorfag.
>>101152561Aren't two noctua 200mm less noisy with better airflow?
>>101152627Those are 200mm fans
>>101152623don’t you have work tomorrow?i don’t i haven’t worked in 5 years no government assistance own my house money in the bank and a portfolio that would make you seethenotonepenny
>>101152645NVIDIA sends out ASUS cards as review samples when they don't have any Founders Edition cards manufactured for the SKU (4060 & 4070 Ti Super).NVIDIA knows a bit more about build quality & reliability than the raging poorfag that is you.
>>101152668that’s coolstill not buying
>>101152638Damn, they look small from that perspective.
>>101152675I accept your concession.
>>101152627no, something this big i want push pull. so i'm putting nine 140mm on the push side and four 200mm on the pull side. to confuse the wind. noise isn't a concern, i'm having a intake and exhaust manifold printed to put over the things.
>>101152687I don't think those 200 are that noisy if you run them on 800rpm.
>>101152721this is going somewhere you need to wear ear plugs anyways
>>101152627>anon thought that was a 100mm x 100mm radiator and that those were 50mm x 50mm x 10mm fanshehhh
>>101152586Yes BUT not too unrealistic, the 7900 XT went for $600 at Microcenter once.
>>101151987MSI and Gigabyte put more effort where the margin is higher.Suprim is often second best daily system model after Strix.Gaming X has decent overall components & build quality as well.Gigabyte 4060/Ti & 4070/Super Windforce & Eagle is a bit underwhelming, but these tiers of cards are better @ more expensive SKUs.Gaming OC is generally okay across SKUs.PNY XLR8 has good cooling, but you'll need to flash a compatible vBIOS for higher power limits.
>>101152381ASUS ProART line is an even bigger even more lucrative grift than ROG's entire existence. At least the gamers reee and seethe when their rgb isn't lighting up. The "creators" are just stuck with trash.
>>101152561>Heatkillergaddamn how much did you spend on this
>>101152586Pinoy scam, always check the sold & shipped section in Amazon product pages.
>>101152879i don't know
>>101151987unironically zotac
>>101152881dot
>>101152586On Amazon if it's not shipped and sold by Amazon for cards don't even bother
>>101152861ASUS has been a long-term board partner for reputable SIs like Puget Systems.These guys stopped using Samsung NVMe drives after one faulty firmware issue.Puget Systems wouldn't be buying ASUS boards for well over a decade if there were serious reliability issues.https://www.pugetsystems.com/workstations/ryzen/x670e-e/https://www.pugetsystems.com/workstations/core/z790-e/That video is an ASUS Czech Republic issue, dumb fuck retard doesn't know how to escalate the problem to people that will send him a BINB replacement.
I've got 5 days left before my return window closes on a 27" 1440p monitor. I still haven't gotten used to it and feel like my 23" 1080p is actually better for esports games like Rocket League and CS. Anyone else have a hard time swapping to a bigger monitor?
>>101152861Shame tooThe proart line does have some really practical looking stuff, but is built like shithttps://youtu.be/97xCYvpX1KA?t=401Was going to get the W680 proart board for my PC but they only had the IPMI version really in stock which is an unholy abortion that told me to run the fuck away
>>101152922gee asus damage control rep you sure do know a lot about the inner workings of asus
>>101152922>That video is an ASUS Czech Republic issue, dumb fuck retard doesn't know how to escalate the problem to people that will send him a BINB replacement.So Asus is not responsible for Asus? and it's reasonable for a consumer to have to go outside of official support channels to get support?You people are fucked in the head
I previously was doing all my dev work on a HP Z2 Small Form Factor G4 Workstation. Its now starting to make a weird whine noise (don't think it is the fan). Sorta confused what to do. Should I:1. Try to find some other used PC online? (I just need a quiet dev setup, not gaming specs, but seems like most aren't quiet enough) 2. Find a silent development pc build. (Honestly don't really have the time to research all the parts so I'd need a guide or something)3. Bring this to a microcenter or something and try to see if they have extra part reccs?4. Try to fix this myself (probably not worth it since I don't want to touch power supply stuff)
>>101152926no, want to go to 95" or 98"
>>101152856>Suprim is often second best daily system model after Strix.it's a default 4090 PCB but with a little extra vrms there is nothing special about italmost all these boards are the same
>>101152971If ASUS Czech Republic is letting him down, he needs to escalate the issue to HQ.That's how real life works, you contact HQ when a regional office fucks up.>>101152946Puget Systems shipped more PCs with ASUS boards than your net worth, multiple lives worth of it.
I've never had any problem with my pc parts like, ever in 20 years.What are these guys using their pcs for?
>>101153006interesting and how would you know their balance sheet mr asus rep?no one here is buying your song and dance
>>101153007i got a 4090 and a radiator bigger than the one in my sedan just to see overdrive pathtracing in cyberpunk 2077
>>101148505perhaps, but there's not really much reason to buy it when mx-6 exists. the noctuas h2 goo might be smarter buy depending on how long these goos last. would love some data on their durability because even if it's matter of few bucks the one lasting longer will objectively be better if it lasts significantly longer.btw anyone using that noctuas thermal paste guard? if you buy h2 paste for am5 it comes with that included so maybe if the guard works really well you can in theory also save some money in cpu cleaning supplies. so there's that too to consider.
Is Geforce Experience really de-jewed and I don't need to make an account to download drivers through it anymore?
>>101153003Aircooled Suprim X was the best SKU to buy considering the price ($1700) to overall package you've got.Only a $2000 Strix was the better card.It's instantly sold out whenever it's restocked.
>>101153044correct but it’s not geforce experience anymore. it’s nvidia app beta
>>101153006An actual honorable company wouldn't have a fucked regional office.
>>101153048Shiiiet
>>101153010Serious system builders like Puget System, which builds workstation PCs for businesses like Open AI and cancer research institutes, are sourcing ASUS ProArt boards.Cope and seethe.
>>101153054Let's see how well you run your multinational company.
>>101153066notice how chang here hasn’t once denied he’s an asus damage control rep this entire thread. you are so transparent and obvious not one take your meds comment anons this is what corporate shilling and damage control looks likethey are scaredfuck asus
>>101152978What? Just open it up and clean it. Blast it with air. Blast it with piss.
>>101153081ProArt boards are being shipped to reputable builders in literal pallets.The same ones that dropped Samsung NVMes for reliability issues.https://www.pugetsystems.com/blog/2023/02/02/update-on-samsung-ssd-reliability/Cope. And. Seethe. Try complaining about ProArt boards to a Puget Systems rep.
>>101153081like all taipei chinks they won't ever deny who they are because it's their only point of pride
>>101153044if you're using video cards or even computers really do you have much ground to criticize jews on>>101153031unrelated, but is there a current meta understanding of thermal pads right now? going direct-to-die on my 13900ks and blocking a 4090. i want a interface that is as endurant as possible without degredation and neither liquid metal nor any paste really passes that bar. last i checked PTM-7950 from fujipoly was the best choice, but i see some of the big names in pc cooling have their own pads in retail right now. are there any that are a clear winner?
>>101153097>reputable>charges damn near 3x the cost of components and puts undersized coolers on i9s
>>101153044>I don't need to make an account to download drivers through ittrue>Is Geforce Experience really de-jewed ahahahahahaha
>>101153124Why hasn't anyone else taken over their business? They have a lucrative customer account.https://www.pugetsystems.com/our-customers/
>>101153124yes, and with valid reasons. puget is what it is because it's worth it to get a system that is 100% rock solid, tested, proven, drivered, conservative, reliable. serious people pay for it because its the one that will take the least amount of time from your life by having computer problems, which is easily worth a 6000 dollar labor cost. is it necessary? not usually. is it worth it? probably not - if you live with your parents.
>>101153110>PTM-7950i have the understanding that this is the product for top of the line enthusiast grade work. although ptm-7950 got popularized by redditors it's still supposedly a good product. HOWEVER, the difference compared to others in actual real world usage might be insignificant.
>>101153153holy shit you really are an asus rep
Should I buy a 4060 or get a 4070 even though I really don't anticipate playing demanding games all that much (but wouldn't mind the option + longevity with having more VRAM)I don't really want to spend what a 4070 is going for but I'd rather not cheap out and regret it either
>>101153209They don't make the 4070 anymore
>>101153169my concern is this: i haven't seen any good standards for selecting the correct thickness. and given that some time has passed and ptm-7950 may not be optimized for cpu's, it's possible that thermal grizzly carbonaut for example may have a better formulation as well as being the best thickness for the application. but it could also be a cheap knockoff. i've used plastigage between an IHS and block and as far as i can tell there's no clearance between the mating faces. it's zero clearance. now i have a digital torque screwdriver. and i know that ptm isn't infinitely compressible. so how much clamping force will bring it to the correct level of squash-edness? and, over time, how much will the material conform - and thus loosen the fasteners? I can just periodically retorque them. but some of these unanswered questions are troubling.
>>101153226I still see them as options on Pepsi parts picker. I know the Super is supposed to theoretically be priced the same but I assume in practice this isn't true
>>101153209>I really don't anticipate playing demanding games all that muchGet a Ryzen 8700G, if you only play not-demanding titles then it can max them out easily.
>>101153257This is for an existing build, I need to replace a dead 970.
>>101153144bruh they are one supplier in tens that major companies use. Getting a handful of workstations doesn't mean anything compared to hundreds of servers used for infrastructure usually made by companies that you may or may not recognize and most of them don't need to advertise who their clients are.>>101153153you're not going to magically avoid computer problems by paying more, puget may try their best but they are untimely under the same constraints as any other manufacturerPuget's real niche is getting something as close to an equivalent to a custom PC but is something a company can order like any other SI/OEM.
>>101153171your understanding of what goes into making a reliable computer is shallow. you think you have discovered that motherboard is bad - but you do not know what the actual criteria, and requirements are for it. that line of boards is almost exclusively for high-end prebuilts and is purchased by commercial accounts. its utility is in how it can be configured and managed. it will not match an asus maximus hero or whatever the biggest most expensive gaming motherboard you can buy, in some things like over-volt delivery stability. but it doesn't need to. nobody is going to overclock these things. almost every OEM sets extremely conservative power limits in these. OEMs take them because it has the features they need for high end professional applications, it can be configured to meet a wide variety of computing environments, and the mean time between stoppages is on par with supermicro and tyan NSN stock. you look at a board through the eyes of a gamer, with the resources of a gamer, so you wouldn't understand why it exists (for a product that is of no use to you, such as puget computers)
>>101153283that’s a lot of words to respond to something no one asked
>>101153231you can get super autistic about this, it probably won't matter unless you're oc'ing like crazy.those carbon pads conduct electricity btw
>>101153270>you're not going to magically avoid computer problems by paying moreyou're going to get as close to perfect as possible by paying more. >Puget's real niche is getting something as close to an equivalent to a custom PC but is something a company can order like any other SI/OEM.Pugets real niche is that you can buy them off a website and they're inexpensive. a company doing big compute is going to call an Nvidia sales rep and set up a meeting to discuss project goals and budget, and then Nvidia builds them out and provides support and drivers as needed. You or I can not do that with Nvidia or IBM, but we can do that with Puget.
>>101153283asus rep confirmed lolcan't answer the simple question for why would you when you're so proud of it
>>101153294sometimes, it's not about having the right answers. it's about asking the right questions.
>>101153270The point being is Puget Systems is solely sourcing ASUS motherboards, including Xeon and Threadripper boards for decades because ASUS makes reliable products.
>>101153295i know you're right. I'll think about it until the indecision becomes unbearable and i'm sick of thinking about it and then make a spur of the moment call and go with it regardless of the consequences. but sometimes the indecision does lead me to a better idea.
>>101153283The 13900K is reliable enough to pass puget's criteriaI wouldn't put too much stock into their drive for reliability
>>101153270>doesn't mean anything compared to hundreds of servers used for infrastructure usually made by companies that you may or may not recognizeFunny because Puget also builds Epyc servers, on ASUS boards.
>>101153358They run in-house tests and set a 125W long-duration power limit on all Intel CPUs unless the client specifically asks for a higher limit.https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/intel-core-i9-13900k-impact-of-multicore-enhancement-mce-and-long-power-duration-limits-on-thermals-and-content-creation-performance-2375/They know what they're doing kid, it's why they can command a premium for their systems.
>>101153301>Pugets real niche is that you can buy them off a website and they're inexpensiveSo cheaper than a dell or lenovo?>>101153327Doesn't mean much, you have no idea the deals behind the scenes to make that sole sourcing attractive.Google sole sources from Quanta for general servers, doesn't mean much other than Quanta is willing to deal with their shit.
>>101153330>I'll think about it until the indecision becomes unbearable and i'm sick of thinking about it and then make a spur of the moment call and go with it regardless of the consequences.this is literally me also. i will obsess about literally everything, until i get tired of it to the point when i'm flipping the coin for it. i think it's a form of OCD, you want to optimize and select the best most optimal thing for every task.
>>101153361They offer it, they sure as fuck don't sell
>>101153397>Doesn't mean muchPuget's been putting their reputation on the line for decades by keeping ASUS as their exclusive board supplier, and it's worked out fantastically well for both parties.Every single workstation & server system they build uses an ASUS board, their entire company rides on the reliability of it.
>>101153414>They offer it, they sure as fuck don't sellThe burden of proof is on you. The fact that they're even sourcing these Epyc chips means they have enough buyers to earn AMD's business.
>>101153308he's doing the classic it response thing where you dont actually answer the question and instead loop around to the beginning
>>101153423Puget is no one in the grand scheme of thingsLots of companies put faith solely on another company but to imply it only done because of reliability is ignorance.>>101153442You implied companies rely on Puget servers because they offer them>The fact that they're even sourcing these Epyc chips You can buy Epyc CPUs retail
>>101153477not one person itt brought up puget except for mr asus rep. they are trying to save face so hard right now it’s embarrassing don’t buy asus they are clearly desperate
>>101153477>Puget is no one in the grand scheme of thingsThere's someone in the industry to be able to command a premium for their final goods.>they sure as fuck don't sellThe burden is on you to prove that.Dumb fuck retard insinuating a for-profit business is ordering Epyc chips they won't sell as server racks.
>>101153507>they are clearly desperateThey're selling ProArt boards by literal pallets kid, they don't need your money.
>>101153516yeah and going by this >>101152381 they are getting boards returned by the pallets tooexcept a decent company wouldn’t send out the broken boards to people who are sending their board in for rma seems like all asus has is broken boards
>>101153533No poorfag, five to six boards from China isn't a pallet load.
>>101153383125W by default? They're conmen anon
>>101153550Base power was always 125W according to Intel, they haven't changed it to 253W.https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/236773/intel-core-i9-processor-14900k-36m-cache-up-to-6-00-ghz/specifications.html
>>101153548>i have no script from my company for this one so i’ll just resort to calling anons poor over and over again
>>101153572Sole board supplier to a company known for the reliability of their final product. Cope. And. Seethe.
>>101153564They changed pl1=pl2=253W since 12th gen125W is just the cooling requirement of their chips in heat watts, not electrical watts
>>101153508>Dumb fuck retard insinuating a for-profit business is ordering Epyc chips they won't sell as server racks.there is always the occasional sucker but no company is gonna deploy in mass if they don't have quantity, you're not getting thousands of servers form a boutique builder.
>>101153585Don’t move the goalpost, you said>they sure as fuck don't sellI accept your concession.
>>101153579yeah you’ve said that already still not buying asusi’m pretty sure you’ve convinced more anons in this thread to not buy asus alsoisnt the point of your position in the company to win over customers not push them away? you are pretty terrible at your job
>>101153598They don’t need your business, poorfag.
>>101153609good cause you ain’t getting it
>>101153582The page says 125W base power, for 14th gen. Intel had plenty of time to update that power figure since 12th gen release.
>>101153597companies like dell and lenovo sell millions of machines in a year, companies don't order 10 machines, they order thousandsyou're not getting that out of a boutique outfitso yes they don't sell dick
>>101153628You don’t even own a $300 board, let alone a $500 one. Poorfag.
>>101148878Me again. How many mobo standoffs/screws can I get by with? I think I can manage 4 or 5
>>101153647wrong
>>101153642That’s not what you said, I accept your concession.
>>101153649wdym "get away with"?
>>101153649the cardboard box it came in is probably a better option than using that case anon
>>101153659it's just the reality of the market shitheadyou're not in it so you don't understandif you can't supply in quantity, you don;t sell dick, there is always the sucker but they'll wise upi remember reading shit in the internal issue tracker at google about some disk shelfs and how asus fucked them in getting FRUs, now they only get from quanta even if theirs aren't even the best
>>101151112I built a great PC earlier this year, but I don't really have any desire to be at my desk and I've had life event after life event pile up on me. Do people ever sell through these threads? (I'm a tourist here)
>>101153752Thanks for agreeing they actually sell server hardware. Like you’re my bussy ass bitch.
>>101153695Would it be a big problem if I install my motherboard but skip a few screws>>101153714It doesn't look as bad as the pic from last thread. I've managed to straighten it out a bit but yeah it will be a complete shitbox if I actually salvage it
>>101153775just keep it. you'd be lucky to recoup half what you spent selling it
>>101153775no, go to hardwareswap
>>101153783again ignorant of the market
>>101153849Again, they sell server hardware.
>>101153879again, not buying asus
>>101153907They don’t need your business, poorfag.
>>101153917not poor but good cause they aren’t getting it
>>101153946Yes, you're poor. None of the board manufacturers want your business.
>>101153634Watch the intel engineer review done by GNThe rated watts is entire based on what cooling solution would be required for OEMs and has nothing to do with power usage.
>>101153975>The time-averaged power dissipation that the processor is validated to not exceed >The time-averaged power dissipation
>>101153973asrock sure did selling me their high-end Taichi board for $220 lol
>>101154013You mean the retailers opted to take a loss on that Taichi board. Poorfag confirmed.
>>101153820you're right, and I'd be selling at a loss, but I've been a huge fuck up lately and I'm trying to pay off credit cards. Honestly it would make me happy knowing I helped someone get a dope pc and that they helped me.>>101153827I did try posting there, no bites sadly. seems like the market for fully built pc's is tough.this was the price checked version of the part list I was given:https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rQgBVW
>>101154066>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rQgBVWThis has to be a joke, get a minimum hourly wage second/third job or something.
>>101153975>>101153992Silicon is effectively 100% inefficientAll power that is inputted comes out as heat, the "work" a CPU does is abstracted with electrons of which you only need 1 or 0 to actually represent bitsA CPU running at 1V has 6.24 x 10^18 electrons running through its transistors, not quite accurate as to what's really going on but you can get the point.
>>101154013You're totally showing ASUS the finger when you buy ASRock boards (not).https://www.pegatroncorp.com/investorRelation/majorShareholders
>>101154024yeah because all retailers decided to discount at the same timeregardless, asrock wanted by business clearly, despite your words>>101154119>people worked at asus at one point so your gving asus moneyretarded
>>101154107Hey fuckface, what matters is the officially listed power specs.Intel deliberately left the 14900K's base power @ 125W, over two years since they disclosed the PL1=PL2 changes on that page.Baseline 125W is still part of "Intel Default Settings", specifically "unless required for compatibility".https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/m-p/1607807?lightbox-message-images-1607807=56057i81282C3BCB9162A9#M73544Now fuck off.
>>101154137ASUS is the largest single shareholder of Pegatron, ASRock is a Pegatron subsidiary.When business within Pegatron is doing well, it's increasing ASUS' wealth from its Pegatron holdings.Bitch ass poorfag.
>>101154156>Bitch ass poorfag.Dumb nigger has to shill on /pcbg/ for his paycheckYou are the poorest and most pathetic faggot here
>>101154199You're the uneducated nigger who doesn't realize ASRock is ASUS' corporate bitch.
>>101151609Yeah me too, my brain knows the 27 inch 1440p version is the safer and smarter option but my dick wants the 4K one.
>>101154217Atleast I'm educated to have a job that's not shilling on pcbgretarded chink roach, has to come on here because a single tard who can't dress properly has fucked asus' public relationsyou will forever be the most pathetic poster here and everyone knows you hang around here
>>101154274Says the poorfag bargain bin ASRock board buyer.You didn't even know ASRock plays corporate bitch to ASUS.The CEO of Pegatro is officially in ASRock's board seat to represent the interests of ASUS Investment Inc.
>>101154295given that you're shilling here your system probably aint shit
>>101152329That’s not a “conflict of interests”, that’s an example of “conflicting interests”.
>>101154323>t. posted on ASUS bitch, discounted Taichi board.
>>101154329no systemok then roachshit's probably a laptop even
>>101152343The keyboards I like the best are chiclets so they don't get that expensive, the most I could spend would be like $100 on an MX Keys, but I like my $50 KC 6000mouse wise I'm happy with my $20 Asus UX300, I don't play multiplayer FPSes or anythingI did spend $400 on a monitor which is more than double what I usually spent on those before, but I do intend to keep it until it breaks basically
>>101154139Intel base power hasn't mattered for 5 years and now you're speaking as if it holds any weight? Topkek
>>101152329>>101154327Eco shit was never about making things last longerIt's about not poisoning the turd worlder companies contract to handle e-waste, literally the reasoning for enacting RoHS even though it has an incalculatable impact on the reliability of electronics just after and even into today
>>101154395It matters to system integrators, even their latest guidance, not a spec, states "PL1=125W is standard"."PL1=253W is recommended for best performance" is also not a spec.Topkek.
Oh no Nvidia owners the drivers are bottleneckinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crij8C4S9FM
>>101154422Give it up, even AMD's CFO told their investors to wait for '25 to see any gaming revenue improvements.It takes a Phillipino Amazon fraud to get people to consider a 7900XTX.
>>1011544422025 is when GDDR7 is in mass production volume
>>101154518GDDR7 has nothing to do with the crappy RDNA3s.
>>101153649Make sure there's no chance of a short circuit caused by the case making contact with your motherboard.
do I really need x3d?
>>101154679If you're asking, you probably don't.
>>101154679just wait for the 9950x3d and buy that
>>101154422What the actual fuck aren't the Poles even sponsored by Nvidia?
>>101154739the witcher 3 dx12/rt port was handled by a russian team until the war
>>101154738Only if the L3 is unified into a single ccx
>>101154781it prob will given how they had to reduce the price of their higher core variants because no one bought them in favor of 7800x3d
>>101154518RDNA4 isn't expected to be using GDDR7 chips.https://www.techpowerup.com/321840/amds-rdna-4-gpus-could-stick-with-18-gbps-gddr6-memory
>>101151112does b650m has wifi M.2 slot?
>>101154864B650M-HDV i mean
>>101154864>>101154870Yes, check the bottom left "M.2 WiFi" slot.https://www.asrock.com/mb/photo/B650M-HDVM.2(L2).png
>>101154923if only this board has 4 slots of ram
>>101154950You don't want to fully populate a 4-DIMM DDR5 slot if you ever plan to use XMP/EXPO settings.
can 600w bronze psu carry a 6750xt?
>ATX boards starting to only have 2 DIMM slotsWhat took you fags so long?t. mITX enjoyer
>>101154998The transients on that card spike pretty hard, I'd stick to the recommended wattage unless you're using a low-power CPU,You could also power limit it.https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-radeon-rx-6750-xt-gaming-x-trio/35.html
>>101155021guess I'll hold it off and just "wait" for the next gen then. thanks buddy. have a good night.
>>101154998yes
Just to be sure: The go-to for AM4 regarding AMD CPUs is going to be the Ryzen 9 5900XT once it releases, right? I remember being told to wait for the 8000 series before upgrading my CPU, and it's around the corner with two new options to upgrade on AM4.
Are high idle temps okay long-term? I like to run my fans silent while idling or light load, which usually results in something like 60-65 C just web browsing. Obviously this is well under thermal limit, but is it okay to have this running 10+ hours a day for years?
>>101155046Even budget PSUs are supposed to have a power excursion allowance for the 12V rail.You should be okay if the 80+ Bronze unit was manufactured or designed by a reliable brand.
will MSI A550BN work with RTX 3050?
>>101155127Yes.
>>101155093Only if you render videos etc. and need 16 coresOtherwise the 5800x3d will be the best in socket cpu
>>101155127it works fine with my 6650 which consumes more than that one
>>101155112As long as voltage & current are under control, yes.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/yv8X6DThe GPU is actually a Dell OEM 3080 Ti that I got openbox.Trying to trim more fat off of this if possible. I know the north is not cost efficient, but I want a case that at least looks nice. So if you have a cheaper case that still looks good then that would be cool. Storage is gonna be a couple of SSDs while I'm waiting on mooching NVMEs off of a guy that doesn't need em.Main things I am uncertain about are the PSU, the CPU cooler, i5 vs i7 value and if DDR5 is actually worth it.Country is Cucknada. Usages are mid/uppermid gaming, software dev, local models. Linux.
>>101155160It seems like, at these kind of prices, it's more worth it to upgrade the mobo, the CPU and the ram, once the new 9000 CPUs come out next month, and just call it a day, right?
>>101155275Here's a DDR4 build with a similarly priced Z690 board.DDR5 systems will bench better in games, but I doubt you can tell the difference in a blind test.You'll have to do some research wrt DDR5's advantage on professional workloads.https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/kf8yMVAM4 alternative, you can select cheaper boards according to your needs.https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/g2RMh3
So, a 2 slot 2 fan cooler should be cool enough for a stock 4060 in a mesh case, right? It draws like 120W under full load, shouldn't be too hot, right? Anything beyond that feels a bit excessive.
>PC works fine>absolutely 0 issue>stable for 48h in every stress test>open up LatencyMon for fun>system hangs within 60secs everytimeI assume that's just a conflict between LatencyMon and a driver report, but I wonder if someone has ever run into such a problem.Basically running the software will make my PC freeze and I'm forced to hard shutdown with the power button.
>>101155553>every stress testWhich tests?
>>101155617OCCT, Prime95, MemTest5, 3Dmark (lol) and a bunch of others.It's not a new system except for the GPU that was changed recently, everything passed stress tests multiple times because I'm autistic about it.The system never hangs and has no dropouts whatsoever even at low samplerates ASIO, it's just LatencyMon hanging the system everytime.Event log doesn't even show anything besides me turning the PC off.
ok so I am trying to revive my old pc (i7 2600k 1060 6gb), I am pretty sure the mobo diedCase is cOoler master Q300LI found pc with no gpu for 85 euros with a mobo HP MS7957 with i5 6500, 12gb ram, PSU.The mobo will fit in my case right? On CM site it says it supports MicroATX and thats what size the HP is apparentlyShould I go a different route instead? I want to spend like 100 euros max to revive it, if I could future proof my pc to install a 3070 or something in the future I could spend a bit more
>>101154676Thank you
>>101155367Thanks, going for the AM4 one.
>>101155706The mATX specs are public, grab a ruler and see for yourself if you're that unsure. You will have to reorganize your cables for the new board, but other than that I don't see any issues.
Is a 360mm AIO for a 7800x3d unnecessary? Am I just fine getting a dual tower?
>>101156266Yes, even a dual tower would be overkill. Of course overkill cooling is just noise reduction so feel free if that's your goal. If you can afford a 7800X3D then $100 for a good AIO, let alone $40 for a dual tower, shouldn't break the bank.
>be amd>goes bankrupt
>>101155706just see if the other computer works first
I haven't bought any storage drives in about half a decade now and am looking at buying a 1tb or 2tb drive for games and preserving some PNGs. Has anything of note happened to the state of SSD's in recent years that have made certain brands into shit tier drives or can I just pick any decently reviewed thing and be set? Also if anyone has any drive recs I'd be happy to hear them. I'd be okay with both kinds of SSDs (NVME or 2.5)
>>101156396just go with sn850x. its the fastest one and cheapest per gb on your list
>AMD: its going to Get Worseforeshadowing for what's to come for RDNA4 flop
>>101156396Avoid Samsung if you value your data
>>101156477Their new APU is suppose to have the power of a 7800XT/RTX4070. But it is going to be a 180w cpu and require a fuck ton of cooling. Like more than ANYTHING on the market. A 360 aio won't be enough.I think as far as x86 cpus are concerned, we might be hitting a theoretical limit. Intel is struggling and AMD, for all intents and purposes, is good at benchmarks and some games, but outside of games, it is not a very stable experience for things like cad work and AC robotics. My predictions are that Intel and AMD will trade blows over the next 4-5 years, but I don't see one pulling ahead of the other so far that it would be meaningful.
I bought a used 7900 XTX and for some reason it stutters like crazy and artifacts on both screens if one is plugged into HDMI. When both are on DP these seems to be no issues. The same HDMI cable works fine on a 6400. Should I be concerned? This is on Linux btw.
>>101154422Fine wine
>>101156676>literal who ruskie site>AAA slop>wildly inaccurate numbers>4090 being held back by 14900kyeah okay anon, that is legit sure
>>101156581Shit tier drive or some company reason?
>>101156720NVcope
>>101156724Bad track record of controller firmware issues even months after release affecting the 980 pro 2tb and 990 pro series. They also had issues with failing nand around 2020-2021 affecting 970s and 870s
>>10115259530k is low must be throttling lol
Damn, m.2 drives are a lot smaller than I expected, also very bare, like someone can just look at my data through my drive
>>101157297
>>101157297im in ur drives washing my harbl
>GTX 4090>raster performance of a 4090>none of the fake frames and ray tracing shit>only designed for sheer raster performance in mind>priced the same as a 4070will it be a popular gaming card?
Why do higher ram clock speeds entail higher latency, kinda counterintuitive innit? What's stopping us from having 6400CL14
>>101157714A whole mess of factors such as the ability to manufacture that at scale, the required voltage, the cpu's IMC being able to handle it and motherboard support are just ones I can think of off the top of my head.
>>101154327>semantics
>>101157714> Why do higher ram clock speeds entail higher latency, kinda counterintuitive innit? What's stopping us from having 6400CL14Reas how RAM working
>>101157714Imagine two queues, one has max length of 20 guys and another with 10. The queue with 10 has lower latency since it can handle them faster and the queue that handles 20 does it slightly slower, but ends up allowing more people through overall because of the downtime it takes to get people properly organized into the queue.
>>101157568no lolmost of 4090s inprovements in gayming already come from raster anyway
>>101151112is the built in gpu in a 7000/14th series processor enough to handle 4k web browsing (including watching 4k youtube/netflix) and streaming 4k media from a nas. transcoding would be handled by the nas.
>>101156617Guess I'll stick to my Trinity shitbox then.
>>101157568Learn how these chips are produced, NVIDIA designs one GPU with Tensor and RT cores (102 die) to serve five major markets.They’ll never design a separate gaming chip requiring its own design & development costs just to satisfy poorfags like you.
embrace noctuaembrace rgb
>>101158096>want to swap nhd15 fans for chromax>would have to take apart literally everythingit's a sad feeling
>>101157568GTX is dead. Nvidia is an AI company not just a graphics company anymore. Jensen's own words. Sony and Microsoft are the ones who are commissioning pure raster monsters like RDNA2 and eventually RDNA5 since 3&4 are the beta test generations like Ryzen 3000/4000.
>>101157568>>101158149just get jobs lol
>>101158131It’s saving you from yourself.Dumb as fuck to buy any type of NF-A14/15 at this point.The fan design is old and outperformed by cheaper & quieter alternatives.
>>101158169don't ever reply to me again telling me to buy chinese knockoffs
>>101158177unfathomably based
>>101158149>Sony and Microsoft are the ones who are commissioning pure raster So wrong, leaked Xbox corporate planning materials show they want hardware accelerated RT and upscaling solutions.The PS5 Pro specs leaked by a third party game dev says the APU has better RT hardware with PS’ own hardware accelerated upscaler.https://overclock3d.net/news/systems/microsofts-next-gen-xbox-hardware-plans-have-leaked/https://www.gamesradar.com/ps5-pro-leak-reveals-specs-that-sound-more-like-ps6-alongside-ai-upscaling-tech/There will never be another raster only gaming GPU because upscalers are an effective space saving and cost cutting measure.
>>101158177Go ahead and pay $25 for a fan that was designed well over ten years ago.
>>101158242i'm going to. i'm not sure why you thought you could convince me to larp as a poorfag like yourself
>>101158232Sony and Microsoft aren't releasing shit until GDDR7 is mainstream and rdna4 isn't using GDDR7 it's still gddr6+infinity cache, RDNA5 will be built from the ground up and use GDDR7.
>>101158247Dumb fuck retard doesn’t know even Noctua’s NF-A12x25s outperform those ancient NF-A14/15.
>>101158257someone's going to have to do something about your mental illness
>>101158249Hey dumbfuck, you don’t need GDDR7 for GPUs to have hardware accelerated RT & upscaling.NVIDIA’s RTX chips are proof of that, for three hardware generations.
if you weren't mentally handicapped and blinded witth poorfag rage, you would notice that those are a12x25s
>>101158267It’s mental illness to buy old, loud, and underperforming Noctua fans.The fan is the major reason why they’re releasing the D15 Gen 2.
>>101158273Neither company is wasting time or money on gddr6 when gddr7 is around the corner. The key to next gen rt is memory bandwidth.
>>101158293i'm not going to waste much more time replying to you, but i think you're genuinely retarded and should maybe seek counseling. or get a job.
>>101158273Nvidia is fine releasing a 192bit 12gb GPU for $700 with GDDR6X and then passing it off to retards. That doesn't cut it for consoles.
>>101158285That’s an NF-A14r redux or an A15.
>>101158295>>101158305The discussion was about the next GPUs enabling hardware accelerated RT and upscaling. The retard claimed Sony and MS is focusing on raster only which is completely wrong.
>>101158177>chinese knockoffsso noctua themselves? kek
>>101158310The new 140mm fans for the actual heatsink don't even exit yet you absolutely retarded nigger. The 120mms are a12x25s. When the new 140mm fans come out I will obviously be getting them. For the last time no I will not be buying your poorfag deepcool or thermaltake knockoffs.
>>101158341>When the new 140mm fans come out I will obviously be getting them.Not obvious, backtracking scum.
>>101158351>make up retarded assumptions in head>UMM UMM UR BACKTRACKINGyou are the dumbest, gorilla brained, low iq poor monkey in this thread. congratulations though, you got the (You)s you so desperately wanted
Hey Anons can any of you help me find a 32 1440 good monitor. But since i am a poorfag hawe like 400 euros to spend. Thinked about Gigabyte G32QC, but don't know if it's any good. And read about ghosting and black isn't as good.
>>101158361Don’t act like you were waiting to buy the chromax Gen 2 A14 fans to begin with when they are expected to release in 2025.Continue to project your own mental illnesses.
>>101158377I accept your concession nigger. Don't reply to me again unless you want to get BTFO
>>101158386Dumb fuck retard, Noctua fans have been manufactured in China and Taiwan, those old as fuck A14s are definitely coming from Chinese factories.Get your mental health checked.
the poorest people are always the angriest>>101158371Does it need to be 32"? I can think of plenty of good 27" 1440p monitors.
>>101158408Would prefer but don't care about curving. Have a 24 and 27 seems a bit underwhelming. But i am autistic like that.
>>101158408>the poorest people are always the angriestThat DOES explain all the nvidia shills
>>101158504I'm talking specifically about you.
>>101158481I'm guessing you don't care about PPI? 2560x1440 at 32" is going to look pretty bad.
>>101158516but i'm not angry
can i join the noctua hate train? not poor just hate overpriced chink stuff larping as European.
you have to samefag a bit more it's too obvious
>>101158528Not really.
>>101158566>There can’t be more than one Noctua skeptic in this thread, it’s just not possible Actual mental illness.
>>101158096I hate cases like thisno functionality whatsoever
>>101158572Before I actually show you some, I feel like it's necessary to show you this one firsthttps://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/32-odyssey-neo-g7-4k-uhd-165hz-1ms-curved-gaming-monitor-ls32bg752nnxgo/it's currently 300 dollars off. $399 with an .edu discount.
I'm going to buy 4 of the next-gen 140mm fans for a push-pull config and i'll be happy.
>>101158590GamersNexus literally reviewed it and said it's one of the best air cooling cases to this day. What do you see that isn't functional?
>>101158408>the poorest people are always the angriestcongratulations, you just discovered elementary school biology; starving animals are the most vicious, this is especially true for humans when you take away their creature comforts
>>101158603Speaking of air cooling. What's stopping Lian Li from releasing something like an O11D but with mesh side panels instead of glass? I would buy one of those instantly.
>>101158603>one of the best air cooling cases to this daywesterners are so out of touch with their former glory that they think paying $150 for a glorified wind tunnel with a window and 3 usb ports is good value for money when 40$ cases with the same retarded psu shroud and tempered glass gimmicks completely BTFO them in features and functionality and then there's the mid/full towers of 10 years ago along with Dell/HP workstation chassis
>>101158658>he's a poorfag spouting nonsenseOh. Opinion discarded. Anyway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JSLWewcieYLearn something. Stop seething. Learn.
>>101158669>points out that case design has been going to shit for over a decade priotizing useless gimmicks and fashion fads >uhh you're poor or something idkWTF? Are you on drugs?
>>101158679I should be asking you that question. Your reply has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation.
>>101158652We're in the wood era now, mesh paneling is a thing of the past, sweaty.
>>101158669Are you trolling or just can't read? If airflow was the only thing that mattered in case design (it never was) then the Meshify would be the greatest of all time, but it isn't. The Define R series BTFOs it in every way. Phanteks P400A? Nah, Enthoo Pro was far superior. This has nothing to do with money, you're literally off topic.
>>101158705>didn't watch video>continues to say irrelevant thingsEU hours are like the twilight zone
>>101158594To pricy in my part of the world 700+ euro
>>101158713>EU hours are like the twilight zonewelcome to 4chan enjoy your stay
>>101158685>points out westcucks are getting ripped off and being treated solely to glorified wind tunnels with no practical use >randomly brings up poorfags out of nowhereYour reply had nothing to do with the conversation.
Want a 78003d with the 4070I already have a 700w power supply will this be enough?need suggestions for the rest of the parts for a complete build (affordable as possible)Not looking to upgrade beyond this just replay better my games
why are third worlders so confidently incorrect about everything anyway. it's not just a 4chan thing either
>>101158713Everyone has already seen the video you dipfuck, no it is not relevant to anything here. Yes, it's a box with fans and a mesh intake, and some usb at the front. Just like all the rest. Very fucking special.
>>101158749they simply think brand = good, especially when its expensive. look at their car and phone taste
>>101158748700W PSU is fine, check whether it has two or three 8pin PCIe power headers for the card.
>>101158713>EU hoursIt's literally daytime here in the US right now.
>>101158763this is a perfect example of what i meant. you don't even know what i'm really talking about, and you immediately made a retarded assumption and then picked the wrong side.
>>101158771kill yourself
>>101158784no i don't think i will
>>101158771Im a german potato mate no idea what you are on about or are you just making assumptions like a turdie?
>>101158787fine, i'll do it myself
99.9% of the active users in this thread have an amd gpu. let that sink in. >>101158797>resorting to violencethat's a very third worder thing to do
>>101158802it's metaphorical dumas
>>101158802You got a single fact to back that up?
>>101158818Vibe based facts are almost never wrong
>>101158802Yeah so? You got a problem with that?
Post specs
>>101158096What's the point of this 2 bottom fans if the PSU is just blocking them
>>101158983I see this a lot. I also see people note that the first exhaust fan is removing cool air out of the case. I have tested this extensively. The two fans at the bottom positively improve temperatures on the 4090 by over 10c. The first exhaust fan makes a 0c difference on or off, so I keep it there for symmetry reasons.
>>101158998Also those two bottom fans positvley affect the temperature of the 12VHPWR cable. 52c with those fans off. 41c with them on.
>>101158983This is why PSU mounts on the top are just better.
>>101158679No, this guy is>>101152561
Day 447 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
There is really no 16GB GPU at a non retarded price?
>>101158596I won't buy it until they make daisy chaining possible
>>101158956R7 7800x3dAsrock B650 steel legendGskill 2x48gb 6000cl30Gigabyte 4090 aeroIntel 905p 1tb, Corsair mp600 pro 4tb
>>101158983PSU shroud fans have plenty of room to breatheSurprised it took this long to be a thing as my case which is rather old at this point has it, even if not implemented the best.
>>101159400>>101159400>>101159400
>>1011517537900 xtx + that monitor is still cheaper then a 4090
>>101152983plasma tv nigger, is that you?
