Noob question here.
Does DLDSR works on video player's output?

>>101159400
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-core-ultra-7-268v-lunar-lake-cpu-appears-on-geekbench
INTEL TROONER LAKE GARBAGE CANT COMPETE
FINISHED AND BANKRUPT
AYYMDEAD ALIVE AND THRIVE
WEST HAS FALLEN

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>>101159556

>>101159556
>low power laptop cpus.
Not a laptop fag, I don't give a single shit who wins here. Wake me up when proper desktop cpus get compared.

>>101159556
Will I be able to get Lunar Lake on desktop?

>>101159556
Did intel lie about their IPC gains (again)?

>>101159827
Desktop chips are rumored to be Arrow Lake and Arrow Lake Refresh.

How can I tell if a motherboard has an AMD PSP chip on it? When did they start adding these?

>>101159556
Why do amd fans think their 4nm cpu has a chance against intel 3nm

>>101159887
There’s no arrow lake refresh, it’s fake news spread by mlid. Panther lake is coming in mid 2025 which leaves to time for an arrowlake refresh. If anything, we’re more likely to see a pantherlake refresh

>>101159895
>The PSP contains on-chip firmware which is responsible for verifying the SPI ROM and loading off-chip firmware from it. In 2019, a Berlin-based security group discovered the off-chip firmware in ordinary UEFI image files (the code that boots up the operating system), which meant that it could be easily analyzed. By using a few hand-written Python-based tools, they found that the off-chip firmware from the SPI ROM contained an application resembling an entire micro operating system.[6][7][8] Investigation of a Lenovo ThinkPad A285 notebook's motherboard flash chip (stores UEFI firmware) revealed that the PSP core itself (as a device) is run before the main CPU and that its firmware bootstrapping process starts just before basic UEFI gets loaded. They discovered that the firmware is run inside in the same system's memory space that user's applications do with unrestricted access to it (including MMIO) raising concerns over data safety.[6][7][8] Because PSP is the chip that decides whenever the x86 cores will run or not, it is used to implement hardware downcoring, specific cores on the system can be made permanently inaccessible during manufacturing. The PSP also provides a random number generator for the RDRAND instruction[9] and provides TPM services.

I don't think it's actually the motherboards themselves that have a dedicated PSP "chip" based off what I'm reading here, rather it just loads the firmware from the motherboard BIOS chip ever since UEFI became a thing.

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Hi, /pcbg/, I have come to ask a few questions
What do you think of this build?
Processor: Intel i9 14900K
Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360
Mobo: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite X WiFi7
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6000 MHz
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090
SSD: Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
PSU: Seasonic Focus 1000W 80+ Gold
Case: Be Quiet! Shadow Base 800 DX

Do you think 14900K is overkill for programming and gaming? I work with embedded programming
Also, what 240hz 1440p 27" monitor would you recommend? I have an Alienware AW2721D but it isn't in stock anymore here so I'm looking at the AW2723DF

>>101159531
>DLDSR renders at a lower resolution than DSR
why would you make your videos worse

More and more manufacturers of motherboards are abandoning outdated 3.5 mm connector, calling for the use of more advanced bluetooth technology. Most likely, the connector will completely disappear from motherboards by 2030.

>>101160113
It's good because you picked the best parts...
Get any 1440p oled monitor for gaymen and use a secondary one for programming

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>>101160153
>calling for the use of more advanced bluetooth technology
no its calling for the use of more dongles

>>101160113
And fyi 9950x will be out on 31 July and should be a good 10-20% faster than the 14900k

>>101160153
The enshitification of motherboards continues.

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I've been running a 12th gen Intel Aviv processor on a MSI Zyklon 690 board since 2022, and I have yet to update the BIOS. Will updating it reveal all my antisemitic post history to the chosen people?

Which FX based CPUs had the best power efficiency/performance per watt/idle power draw?

>>101160174
>>101160185
Well actually I was thinking of getting a 14700K since it's like 50% cheaper and the 14900K isn't that much more powerful and instead of spending the money on the CPU I'd get another 2TB of space

Are there any other CPUs I can use, downclock/undervolt/disable cores on and get the same 6W TDP and performance as the Intel N100? The motherboard is way too limited for what I need on the N100M.
>captcha: KWGAY

>>101160113
> Processor: Intel i9 14900K
Retard

>>101160206
Wouldn't even mad about them removing analog connectors, but it is just more ways to skimp and add to their margins

>>101160174
> 1440p oled
Retard

>>101160113
Be a waitfag, Intel will deliver

>>101160276
elaborate

>>101160317
I am genuinely tired of waiting, will arrow lake really be that better

>>101160293
Elaborate

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>>101160342
Believe in RibbonFET

With non-conductive thermal paste, there's no harm to any components if I apply too much and it spills over, right?

Why did Intel go back to their old logo? Is it because of their new CEO actually being an engineer?

>>101160590
no

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>>101160597
>direct the viewer toward a singular message— the Intel brand is both “traditional and reliable.” It looks to showcase how the brand’s longevity and long history have stood the test of time and can be something consumers can trust.
Going back to the times of innovation

If GPU's DP died but HDMI still works, is the GPU likely to be completely dead soon?

>>101160010
Find one source claiming Panther Lake to be a desktop processor.

>>101160686
downside is the jingle does flow well as with the leap ahead logo

>>101160590
nah I make a huge mess with mine and it doesn't seem to matter

>>101160699
No as without knowing how the DP died it might have nothing to do with the gpu itself.

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why does this thing look like a radeon hd series gpu

>>101160749
It's the red hue.

>>101160113
>14900k
>4090
Enjoy your expensive space heater retard.

>>101160699
It's probably just some hardware issue with the DP connector. PCBs are very complex so when something goes wrong with hardware it's hard to say that it's just dying

>>101160749
kek, you could go back in time and insert this thing into an era appropriate build without looking out of place
like a time travelling sleeper

Would you guys still recommend P360A?

>>101160738
Random stuttering and shutdowns in both windows and linux, eventually no more signal. Temperature is fine. HDMI and DVI ports still work.
(Monitor is 1440p so I don't need the DP and I'm not in a hurry to upgrade.)

>>101160803
Thanks, hadn't thought of the connector being the issue, I'll try another one.

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>>101160707
>There was a plan for Desktop-First 8+32 Configuration, but this has been canceled
Even the original source of the Arrowlake refresh rumor don't think that would happen anymore

>>101160871
>>101160871
Read what it says about Panther Lake, it’s not guaranteed to have the same pin layout.
LGA1851 desktop CPU was supposed to be Meteor Lake-S and Arrow Lake-S.
Now it’s Arrow Lake and it’s Refresh.
I accept your concession.

>>101160914
>not guaranteed to have the same pin layout
so you're admitting it will have a desktop lga (wether its on lga 1851 or some thing else). I accept your concession. Also mlid is wrong about the date by a wide margin. No only is he walking back the arrowlake refresh rumor now he's way off on pantherlake date which is actually coming in mid 2025

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>>101160997
Panther Lake is not the successor to Arrow Lake, Arrow Lake Refresh is.
Panther Lake pinout has been finalized years in advance, they can't just retool it to LGA 1851.
I accept your concession.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1851

>>101161020
>Wikipedia page editable by anyone
>No references/source to where they got arrowlake refresh information from (it came from Mlid)
I accept your concession.

>>101160828
Dunno how similar it is but I had P300A and it's cable management sucked. Also bottom hdd racks were unusable with large PSUs. The aesthetics were cool at least.

>>101161051
>>Wikipedia page editable by anyone
Why hasn't someone edited in Panther Lake's socket compatibility?
I accept your concession.

>>101161094
>someone edited in Panther Lake's socket compatibility
because the only people who has the time to do work for free on wikipedia are transgenders
I accept your concession.

>>101160749
The thinness, the red/black coloring, the word 3D being on the name

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>>101161172
If you are right, LGA1851 boards will possibly have only one socket-compatible CPU (Arrow Lake-S).
Only one Chinese source baselessly claims Panther Lake will be socket 1851 compatible with an unrelated PCI ID disclosure.
Everyone else is citing the same baseless source.
https://www.ithome.com/0/766/726.htm

There needs to be a second 1851 socket-compatible chip before Panther Lake.
I accept your concession.

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>>101160749
Cause it does look quite like the HD5000 series reference cards with the red bar down the middle and the rest being black. It was also one of the last times they were still truly competitive but those days are long gone and will never come back.

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when's it gonna be a good time to buy SSDs again?

>>101161359
stop shilling your ugly fat whore wife tell her to find job.

Will a 5700x (non 3D) bottleneck a 4070 super ?

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>>101161260
>There needs to be a second 1851 socket-compatible chip before Panther Lake
You're beyond help. You're now trying make everything revolve around your shitty argument.

this is what the timeline looks like according to you:
>Arrowlake: H2 2024
>[Something absolutely must be here according to your turd brain]
>Pantherlake: H2 2025

what a joke. Anyone could've seen there's just no time for another lake between arrowlake and pantherlake. I accept your concession.

>>101161371
>ugly fat whore wife
she's not my wife but I gotta agree that Proxy's been getting a little bit too fat lately.

>>101161408
Panther Lake prioritizes laptop chip release you dumbass.
Pat didn't say Panther Lake desktop is '25 bound.
The only Panther Lake voltage regulation testing tool released by Intel so far is for its U/P/H class BGA2540 laptop chip.
https://designintools.intel.com/bga2540-ptl-uph-interposer-for-the-gen5-vr-test-tool.html

This is what a desktop CPU VR test tool appears in Intel's equipment page.
https://designintools.intel.com/lga1700-adl-s-interposer-kit-for-the-gen5-vr-test-tool.html
There is no LGA1851 PTL-S VR testing tool.
I accept your concession.

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Are i7-tier CPUs good for Mini ITX builds or should I just get a more power-efficient 8-core Ryzen?

What kind of UPS would i need to prevent a high-powerdraw machine (4090/7950x) from powering down during a short (<5 seconds) outage, preferably without an "overload" warning during normal use? I'm on the same grid as my local fire station but there's a gap in output when it switches from main to generator power.

>>101161469
8 core ryzen for power efficiency for sure. Intel performance per watt won't come remotely close to beating 7800x3d(especially for gaming).
But if you can fit 240+ AIO, i7 can technically be run fine.

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Will the upper-tier 40XX GPUs drop in price once the 50XX series gets released?
I 'member the 1080 ti's were a really good deal back when the 2080 ti's got announced, but that was more than half a decade ago at this point.

>>101161506
>8 core ryzen for power efficiency for sure.
Do they require undervolting? Or any kind of per-core tinkering to get the most efficiency out of the chip?

>>101161514
AMD isn't competing at all, intel probably won't be able to churn out anything above mid range, so there will still be decently high demand for 4000s. As such, probably not much price decrease.
>>101161514
>I 'member the 1080 ti's were a really good deal back when the 2080 ti's got announced, but that was more than half a decade ago at this point.
Yeah, crypto then AI changed the market forever. The past is gone.

>>101161461
>Pat didn't say Panther Lake desktop is '25 bound
Pat also didn't say its a mobile cpu

This is your logic:
>alderlake mobile&desktop: both 2021
>raptorlake mobile&desktop: both 2022
>arrowlake mobile&desktop: both2024
>pantherlake mobile in 2025 and desktop will arrive somehow a year later (according to your shat brain)

Somehow you think desktop patherlake will arrive a year later than mobile version when all the lakes before it releases desktop and mobile at the same year. you're just not making any sense. I accept your concession.

>>101161532
No. Undervolting(per core or general) can help but far from necessary. Your tinkering options(on a standard motherboard at least) for x3d chips are limited anyway.

>>101161576
You keep ignoring the fact that the canceled Meteor Lake desktop chips fucked up that little timeline.

Intel needs to release at least two CPUs for the LGA 1851 socket, and it's more likely to be Arrow Lake & Arrow Lake Refresh than Panther Lake.
Mobile Panther Lake chips don't even share the same pinout as Meteor Lake mobile chips (BGA2049), and you're expecting Panther Lake to be LGA1851 compatible.
https://designintools.intel.com/bga2049-mtl-p-interposer-for-the-gen5-vr-test-tool.html
https://designintools.intel.com/lga1851-mtl-ps-interposer-for-the-gen5-vr-test-tool.html

I accept your concession.

>>101161570
>The past is gone.
why did you have to remind me? I fucking hate cryptofaggots with every fiber of my being but I hate that I was stupid enough to not cash in on that fad even more.
t. sold a NEW 3070 in October 2020 because my 1080ti with 11gb VRAM was good enough.
>>101161570
>so there will still be decently high demand for 4000s
Would you recommend going after used 4080 Supers, if the 50XX cards end up being underwhelming? The cards will be barely a year old by the time the 50XX series arrive.

>>101161592
>Undervolting(per core or general) can help but far from necessary
what a relief. I have horrible memories of trying to squeeze every last bit of performance out of my 3700X I got in 2019. Served me well for 3+ years but the 12700K I have now is simply superior.

>>101161676
Why do you have horrible memories? Anyway there's no reason to not undervolt your CPU or GPU, even the crappiest silicon can still go down at least a few mV with minimal effort for better performance.

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>>101161637
>BGA
Who the fuck gives a fuck about bga? 12900hk and 13900hk has different bga yet the desktop counterpart both uses lga1700. You keep point out shit that completely irrelevant

https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/core-i9-12900hk.c2540
https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-specs/core-i9-13900hx.c3018

>>101161700
>Why do you have horrible memories?
because It took me years to realize my 3700X was not as good as I wanted it to be, the moment I got my 12700k, performance skyrocketed. No more awful .1% low, no more high voltage on idle, no more shit CPU temps because the cooler was offset, no more tinkering besides a small undervolt, etc. I liked my 3700X but It was simply outclassed by the 12700K in basically everything.

7700 xt and ryzen 2600 at 1440p
elden ring isn't at stable 60fps (drops to 55 or 50 when walking around)
is this expected?

>>101161757
CPU is probably too weak. Update bios and slot in a 5700X3D.

>>101161655
>Would you recommend going after used 4080 Supers
Depends on whatever its price will be but sure. The card should last for years including 4k.
Only thing I wouldn't recommend it for is probably AI due to 16gb vram. Just get a cheaper 16gb, if you don't mind tinkering to get shit run AMD for more vram at similar price or spend more to get 4090/5090.

>>101161576
>Pat also didn't say its a mobile cpu
Intel's already providing testing tools for Panther Lake U/P/H laptop chips. It's a mobile CPU for sure.
https://designintools.intel.com/bga2540-ptl-uph-interposer-for-the-gen5-vr-test-tool.html

>>101161733
>You keep point out shit that completely irrelevant
Look at this seething faggot, so angry he's writing in broken sentences.
There's no proof that Panther Lake will be LGA 1851 socket-compatible.
LGA 1851 boards will need at least two compatible CPUs before Intel releases new desktop boards.
I accept your concession.

>>101161787
Yes, cpu is what I'm thinking. Is there any way to tell? At first I thought that one of the cores was constantly maxed out, but it's not the case. So maybe it's just too weak at cache things and scheduling performance?

>>101161829
>At first I thought that one of the cores was constantly maxed out, but it's not the case.
CPU usage is a little hard to tell since you won't necessarily max it out on a display chart when it's bottlenecking you, but it is known that this game isn't very demanding and can run on worse GPUs than yours just fine which is why I'm making this assumption.

>>101161826
i give up, you win. we're just going in circles at this point.

>>101161793
>Depends on whatever its price will be but sure.
Thanks. I'm afraid the 40XX series will stay relevant for a very long time because Nvidia is supposedly going after AI next but I would rather have real rasterization performance and good power efficiency. The 30XX series is already showing its age because devs can't optimize properly.

When are 2x64GB DDR5 kits generally expected to be available?
Outside of the single OEM kit, anyway. My Z790 BIOS had an update stating 256GB support, so surely they're getting to it at some point?

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>>101161945
You give up because you have no concrete proof to refute me.
Panther Lake laptop chips are '25 2H bound, there's no reliable information regarding its desktop release schedule.
I accept your concession.

>>101161972
and the only proof you have for arrowlake refresh is from mlid (which he walked back on that claim).

>>101162016
He walked back the core configuration information (8+32) of the chip.
Learn to properly read the slide decks you upload.
You still have no proof Panther Lake is the immediate successor to Arrow Lake-S by being an LGA1851 socket compatible chip.
I accept your concession.

>>101160185
*only in selected avx512 workloads
(programming isnt one)

>>101159400
which has better longetivity, nth2 or mx6?

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>Nvidia: The more you spend the more the save
>AMD: The more you spend the more I scam

>>101162143
>keebench
>relevant to big boi accelerator work
u wot m8 - try some testing that matters https://chipsandcheese.com/2024/06/25/testing-amds-giant-mi300x/

>>101162143
Please stop telling data center fags that consumer GPUs offer better value for their faggotry the market is already bad enough.

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>>101162141
They're both relatively long-lasting pastes, NT-H2 performs better.
Noctua says the paste can be used on the CPU for five years or more, Arctic doesn't seem to have an official estimate.

What would be some good parts for a nice $1,000-$1,200 pc? Looking to upgrade from a pre-built by making one from scratch.

>>101162211
If Microcenter access is applicable, start by factoring in a motherboard/cpu/ram bundle.

>>101160263
Any recent socketed processor like i3-12100 or i5-12400 and set long duration power limit in BIOS

>>101162211
This is probably a decent starting build, deliberately left out the video card because I don't want to make that decision for you.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zWMDL9

Some of the parts in the list are discounted for a limited time, lower the CPU to a regular Ryzen 5 7600 if the price suddenly balloons.
I don't like cases with RGB fans and a tempered glass side panel, but you can't beat the overall package of that case.

>>101162276
I do have a microcenter actually. I’m just new to building pcs myself.

https://www.euro.com.pl/monitory-led-i-lcd/iiyama-monitor-gcb3480wqsu-b1.bhtml

A friend asked me what do I think about this monitor? And I'm clueless so I'm asking here
So, do you recommend 21:9 monitors? And is that monitor good or is there better?

>>101162305
Thank you! That’s very nice of you. I’ll look into it as well as other stuff.

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>>101162325
Don't listen to people criticizing that Gigabyte board, it's been tested to have good CPU power delivery. Overkill for a 7600X.
There are obviously better motherboards, but I picked the most affordable (& good) one to help you buy a better video card.
You can always get a +$200 board and lower the video card to a 4060 or something.

>>101162382
Sounds fair honestly. idk much abt motherboards either so all help is appreciated.

My old PC is getting outdated slowly and I would like to build a new one. I am currently not inside the PCB-Bubble so I don't really have an idea what to set up.
I am in Germany. The price should be 2000 Euros max.
My use cases are gaming on nice settings, game development and some Blender rendering here and there.
When I run long Blender renders the PC might run for some hours. That's okay but I'd like to keep the energy consumption relatively low (no Intel CPU pls). Also I would like having 1-2TB SSD storage.

>>101162306
Great then if you're gaming I recommend the 7800X3D bundle for $470, but if you need multithreaded CPU productivity stuff then one of their Intel bundles, 13700K for $500 looks good. Here's a build based on the 7800X3D:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bsbrkJ

GPU can be swapped for a 7900 GRE if you don't mind spending a bit more or a 4070 Super if you want Nvidia.

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i live in philippines
is this psu good? can handle rtx 3060 ?

>>101162440
Super Flower is a brand with a very good reputation but I can't find anything about a "zillion" PSU. It's probably safe though. And yeah you can easily feed a low end card like a 3060 with that.

>>101162416
>idk much abt motherboards either
That board has no native WiFi & BlueTooth and has limited storage expansion slots (2x M.2 for NVMe drives, 4x SATA ports).
The PCIe x16 lane (video card slot) is also limited to PCIe 4.0, but not even the RTX 4090 fully saturates this data lane.

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UTLTRA 9 290K + RTX 5090

>>101162599
Was the prompt "things that are a waste of money and sand"?

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Need some case recommendations, preferably white, cool and good looking

>>101162416
If you're looking for a board with WiFi & Bluetooth, these two are alternatives, but I wouldn't get the AORUS Elite AX at your budget.
It only has slightly better power delivery and a thicker PCB layer (8 vs. 6) over the Eagle board.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CvcgXL/gigabyte-b650-eagle-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-eagle-ax
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WBwypg/gigabyte-b650-aorus-elite-ax-atx-am5-motherboard-b650-aorus-elite-ax

>>101162440
Looks like a rebranded MSI PSU.

man I still remember when I sold my 1070 for $450 at the peak of crypto hype. that was amazing. will never happen again.

>>101162642
Pop air XL

>>101162666
Super Flower is a PSU manufacturer, it's more likely that MSI throws their name on a PSU by them.

>>101162642
Lian Li 011 vision
Hyte y40, y60, y70
Thermaltake 270 view
NZXT H6 and H9

>>101162440
It's probably safe & it can comfortably handle the RTX 3060.

>>101162642
Lian Li O11 Vision, O11D, Lancool 216, A3-mATX
ASUS AP201
Phanteks Eclipse, XT Pro Ultra
Fractal Pop Air, North, Torrent
Jonsbo D41 Mesh
NZXT H5/6/7 Flow
be Quiet Silent Base 802 (solid side)

>>101162658
Thank you, well appreciated. I like having a board with more stuff to it.

>>101162426
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/8hg47R
Slightly over budget, drop the video card down to a 4070 Ti Super if you need to.
Swap the CPU to a 7900/X if you need the extra cores for multithreaded productivity loads.

This is the 4070 Ti Super I'd buy in Germany.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/ztbRsY/pny-xlr8-gaming-verto-epic-x-rgb-oc-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-16-gb-video-card-vcg4070ts16tfxxpb1-o

>>101160113
I went with a 14900k
>only because I got it for $300 and I already had everything else from my old build

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What's a good 1000W PSU?

>>101163119
Pick one of the better-performing & quieter units on this list.
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/5/

reminder do not buy asus
this will also summon our resident asus damage control shill

>>101161359
str8 busted yo

>>101163119
i have an nzxt 1200w
it works
pretty sure seasonic makes it

>>101163311
>busted
I know but her saggy milkers and fat hips are far from unappealing

>>101163318
>nzxt 1200w
how loud is it? is it ATX 3.0?
>>101163150
thx 4 the list, anon

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>Thermalright Frozen Notte 360 RGB
>70€
>Arctic Liquid Freezer 360 A-RGB
>120€
Is the Arctic worth the 50€ difference? It will be cooling a 5800X3D for now and either a 9800X3D or some Intel when next gen CPUs hit.
Don't care about it being overkill, I buy for the aesthetic and noise mostly.

>>101163381
atx 3.0 and honestly not sure. its shoved in a closet in the other room. i never hear it but thats on the account its shoved in a closet in the other room

What are the current good choices for low profile GPUs that draw power from the PCIe lane only?

>>101163402
wondering the same but with the Frozen Edge vs LF3

>>101163402
>>101163495
Find evidence of good Thermalright customer support (RMA) for your region and go from there.
Not shitting on Thermalright, but you want to be safe when running water-cooling PC components.
Arctic isn't perfect, but they have a track record of handling defects & quality control seriously.
https://www.arctic.de/us/lf-service-kit

deepcool bros
why would biden do this to us

>>101163580
With such a big price disparity, it's almost not worth fussing about RMA issues should something happen IMO, not that it matters in Europe.
It's like tards saying you shouldn't buy a recertified HDD when it's half price of new because of a few years longer warranty, bitch I can literally outright buy to replace any one that fails and still be ahead

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Thank you intel no more copper wires

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>>101163899
You will connect your ram and storage via fiber optics in the future

>>101163899
>>101163912
Is this the shill campaign now that arrowlake is doa?

>>101163580
>>101163853
I just found out they have the Liquid Freezer RGB 360 for 89€ on their website's sale, makes the decision a bit easier I guess.
Though assuming I give up on RGB, would the Frozen Edge be better? I'm seeing it outperforming the LFII in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ntIhvtzgUg

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>>101163912
does this mean our ram and storage will move at the speed of light instead of speed of electricity?

>>101163912
i dont see any reason not to if it works
its just a cable

>>101163119
Good:
BeQuiet Pure Power 12 M
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/1000-Watt-be-quiet--Pure-Power-12-M-Modular-80--Gold_1480495.html

Better:
BeQuiet Straight Power 12
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/1000-Watt-be-quiet--Straight-Power-12-Modular-80--Platinum_1496098.html

Best:
BeQuiet Dark Power 13
https://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/1000-Watt-be-quiet--Dark-Power-13-Modular-80--Titanium_1479964.html

>>101163986
yes, data will move even faster between components now

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>>101164079
cool

brightness? a real spec or a meme? what makes a screen so horrendous you have to turn up gamma to 2.0+ in the nvidia panel just to be able to see shit?
my laptop screen is specced at 250nits or some shit and it's barely useable unless gamma is cranked, never even considered nits to be a spec before this horrendous garbage
are the anti oled cucks valid and real? is 250nits shit?
should I unironically get a 500+nits LCD?

>>101163150
A list like this can exist and people will still find ways to not buy an FSP PSU

>>101164238
FSP and Seasonic have never let me down. Decided to go with montech this time due to good reviews

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>>101164238
>>101164272
I have never heard of it, please give me the FSPill. Are they Seasonic/Silverstone/Super Flower tier?

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it's the summer time
check those 12vhpwr cables
check those temps/voltages
stay safe out there in these streets

>>101164345
Cold hands with the Nvidia GPU will make your aim worse compared to the superior bloodflow in the warm AMD room.

>>101164345
anyone that bought an amd gpu this round is actually stupid

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>>101164221
You shouldn't be fucking with gamma in an ideal world - just about everything on pc is mastered around a gamma value of 2.2 and that is what your screen should be calibrated to (or as close as you can get - use this for a "good enough" eyeball calibration http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ ).

>brightness? a real spec or a meme?
Depends on exactly what part we are discussing. For typical usage 200nits is a fair bit of brightness when you are sitting laptop/desktop close. When HDR comes into play bigger number better (though it isn't quite that simple).

>is 250nits shit?
On a shitastic lcd, yes. On a decent LCD, not really. On an OLED no due to the higher contrast inherent to the display type.

>should I unironically get a 500+nits LCD?
500 nits will scorch your eyeballs in daylight and in a dark room (again remember how close you are sitting) is like looking at a flashbang for SDR content. Again HDR usage complicates things.

>>101164421
DAS RITE

>>101164444
And anyone that bought a 13 or 14th gen intel cpu is stupid. You happy now fanboy?

>>101164458
I wasn't disagreeing with you but you seem oddly defensive about it.

>>101164472
>I wasn't disagreeing with you
DAS RITE

Do xxxxX3D cpus have any productivity benefits whatsoever over the normal x cpus amd have?

>>101164383
FSP is a brand that has always been around but haven't really focused on ATX PSUs in a good minute. Mostly been dealing with OEM/Server PSUs
Just as good as superflower or seasonic by all accounts.

>>101164458
>anyone that bought a 13 or 14th gen intel cpu is stupid
What if they just wanted to do both productivity and gaymen? I mean 14th gen looks kinda retarded but I can see legitimate uses for 13th.

>>101164498
Outside of some niche scenarios, no.

>>101164499
Hmm looks like they don't sell in my shithole, oh well. At least I got my nice Super Flower.

>>101164500
nobody does productivity on their ocmputer IDIOT it's just gaymen RETARD

>>101164668
Dunno you seem like a very productive poster to me.

So what is the factor that makes a PSU more likely to cause damage to other parts? Ripple?

Im building a secondary PC with my some of my old hardware but I don't know much about PSU in general. Is a 500w 80 plus enough for this setup?

Cpu: Ryzen 5 5600x
Cpu fan: PA 120
Gpu: RTX 3060
Mobo: Gigabyte b450m ds3h v2
Ram: 16 GB(1x8) DDR4 3200Mhz

>>101164852
It should be fine but kind of on the edge, you want a good PSU manufacturer above all.

>>101164820
Ripple is possible but it's more regulation
A bad PSU could allow voltages to rise beyond the limits for components when there is a minor surge on the AC line or a very sudden load that causes the PSU voltage to drop and it overshoot to compensate. After a certain point however all PSUs have good enough regulation. If your looking at two different mid-range or high-end PSUs minor differences in regulation doesn't matter as they all have protections to prevent themselves from exceeding safe voltages.

Realistically however a defective PSU is more than likely going to harm components more than anything when the PSU dies. Can't really control that unfortunately as even the best brands will have their fair share of defective units. No PSU is safe either from major surges

>>101164820
Bad over current protection is the biggest offender for a psu nuking other parts.

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>>101159400
In Germany, max 2000 € budget, but still need a monitor (I'll focus on that once this part is settled). PSU is 86.89 € but doesn't show on pcpartpicker. I already have mouse, keyboard, and a 1TB Crucial MX500 2.5" SSD, which would be my secondary drive for things that still need a SSD, but not as fast as a NVME. Here's the list and the case's page:
>https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Rd247R
>https://www.montechpc.com/en/products_detail.php?nid=195
1. Is this spec fully compatible with W10 Enterprise IoT LTSC 2021, I don't want to use W11 yet.
2. Does the case fully fit all the components with no issues?
3. Are there better alternatives for each slot within the same price or spec range? I'd rather pay a bit more for quieter components; I think the PSU is already the most quiet in that range.

Thanks for any help or advice.

>>101165157
12gb card is waste of money either nvidia 16gb or amd.

>>101165157
get a noctua cooler faggot
can't believe you call yourself german

>>101165263
kys

5600 105 eur vs 5700x3d 205 eur
tell me now

>>101165326
Du bist eine Enttäuschung

>>101165333
Wait for new am4 chips in july.

>>101165157
you should select a monitor first because that determines the resolution and thus if it might be smarter to go with a weaker cpu in favor of a ti or 4080 super

>>101165333
What is the rest of the system? Ignorant of that the 5700x3d is generally the best upgrade to do for AM4.

>>101159400
That's reimu right there

>>101165425
7700 xt and 16 gigs of ddr4

>>101165507
5700x3d.

Hyper newfag here, I have a HP Pavilion 590-p0024, I'm trying to upgrade the CPU and GPU by getting a Ryzen 7-2700 and GTX 1060 6GB, I just need to get ahold of a PSU, should I get ahold of the 400W L04618-800 or should I go all out with the L05757-800? I'm mainly looking at pricing here.

>>101165248
Could you please elaborate? I was told a few threads ago if I didn't mind the 30 € hike, I should go for a 4070 Super over a 7900 GRE 100% of the time.
>>101165263
Why? That's the cooler in the OP.
>>101165376
I have a desk with wheels, so I sit in couch and draw the desk to me, making the monitor closer than what I've seen other people have... so for me a 24" monitor at 1080 is fine, but I was told the 4070 super could handle 1440 as well, if I ever want to upgrade.

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>>101165544
>why
Support homegrown business

are lian li uni p28 fans worth it? they're on sale in my country. i can maybe get noctua nf-a12 chromax on the secondary market but maybe the lian lis are better? they're 28mm thick which is fine by me. someone said they make a whining noise if you put them as intake too close to a mesh but that won't be an issue for me. and they said they're surprisingly quiet even at max speed (2600 rpm).

>>101165544
1080p 4070 super is fine. also dont listen to the noctua guy hes trolling the thermalright is one of the best coolers you can get.

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>>101165525
Your machine looks like this correct?

>>101165544
Nvidia shills it's up to you, but don't buy card with 12gb ram.

>>101165525
It's unlikely that you'll be upgrading this system again, because the CPU choice is so limited, so buying the 400W unit is more financially sensible. Don't spend so much on those proprietary parts that you might as well have saved up for a regular ATX rig.

>>101165561
Pay 100 bucks extra for a product the is made in china because some austrian was able to open cad kek. scythe and arctic have german and japanese engineers and decent pricing without ripping of their customers.

>>101165561
Could you link me to a benchmark of coolers like the one posted in the OP for PSUs? If a Noctua is way quieter, I'd consider it.
>>101165574
Thank you.
>>101165640
Just saying "Nvidia shills" doesn't help your argument. I checked out benchmarks and 4070 super is better than the 7900 GRE in a lot of remarks. Yes, the latter is also better in a few others, but for I want a new computer for, the Super seems to be on top... UNLESS you have good reasons why buying the card itself, regardless of the manufacturer, is bad idea.

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5554

OWARI DA

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>>101159400
Telling ppl to buy GPUs in the 600 bucks range that come with 12gb VRAM should automatically get you gun down.
Stop being a Ngreedia drone.
https://youtu.be/dx4En-2PzOU
https://youtu.be/P2qs2lLdWHY

>>101165834
>cpus from before 2008 can't use the latest nvidia drivers anymore
oh my fucking god someone alert the press

lian li uni p28 fans don't have zero rpm mode??? if you set 0% speed will they keep spinning or wtf?

why don't motherboards have an option to cut off the 12V so you can stop any PWM fan? ffs

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Finished my new build but now I'm getting sentimental and don't want to put my old one into storage, I've been on it for 9 years...this is highly autistic

both my desktop and laptop decided to shit the bed at the same time
im thinking about ditching both and just build a non-dogshit pc myself
what components should i be looking at for a nice 1440p gaming experience?

>>101166023
You can just copy someone elses parts list. Google 1440p gaming PC build parts list.

>>101166023
7600
4070 Super
Midrange B650
32GB 6000C30
2TB NVMe
650-850W A/B-tier PSU

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>>101165793
>"in a lot of remarks"
>muh ai
>muh gay tracing

I don't really care keep overpaying for your 16gb version to nvidiajew.

the store has free returns, could it be worth trying the lian li uni p28 fans and see if my mobo can stop them?

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>you can't beat me
>I know
>but he can

>>101166096
I clearly meant "regards", and already mentioned I'm in Germany, so it's safe to assume English is not my native tongue.
>muh ai
>muh gay tracing
I mentioned neither, and of 20 games I saw benchmarks for, of which only 2 had raytracing, the 7900 GRE only came on top on 1.
>I don't really care keep overpaying for your 16gb version to nvidiajew.
You clearly care or you wouldn't even had replied.

>>101166119
>it's year 2030
>AMD, Intel and IBM have teamed up
>IBM Ultron RX 10900 XTX destroys Nvidia's RTX 10090 Super Ti X3 in every single benchmark including noise, latency, frequency, and thermals
>Nvidia stocks crash and a new era of gaming begins

>>101166172
>new era of gaming begins
>people still just play league, fifa, dota, csgo,valorant
>>ack.

>>101166190
wouldnt mind a decent amd gpu for cs2, would buy asap

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>>101166096
Are you blind? anon said 30 euros and it's exactly that.

>>101166130
>oh wow card that costs 250euro more came on top with a couple of fps.

Don't care buy nvidia.

my mobo can control speed with DC voltage, is that better or worse than PWM?

>>101166216
>12gb card

enjoy your missing textures.

>>101166220
>>101166216
L2read, you stupid fuck

>>101166229
PWM is technically better - finer control, wider range - but voltage works fine for most applications. If you have PWM fans and headers you might as well use it but don't feel like you're "missing out" if not.

>>101166236
>this card is better
>WHAT? GAY TRACKING???? WHO CARES???
>actually benchmarks show it's better in a lot of games
>OH WELL OBVIOUSLY IT WILL DO BETTER IF COSTS TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY EUROS MORE!!!!!!!!!!!
>it's just 30 € more...
>YEAH??!?! WELL -ACK

>>101166229
pwm is for 4 pin fans
dc voltage is for 3 pin fans
using voltage on 4 pin wont harm anything its just less efficient

>>101166281
>12gb card
>better

Once again, no one cares about missing textures, filthy kanacke.

>>101160749
>geforce rtx
not even the most cursed thing about this product image

>>101166119
I bet Intel execs are laughing at this post.

>>101166271
>>101166283
in my country there's a campaign price for lian li uni p28 fans but i'm worried about being able to stop them since they don't advertise 0 rpm mode. my asrock mobo has an option for fan stop so i hope it cuts the power and doesn't just set PWM to 0%?

this guy can stop them with whatever fan controller he's using but he says they spin at 100% for a second when they start which might get annoying
https://www.reddit.com/r/lianli/comments/17d43fi/p28_uni_fans_high_minimum_rpm/

>>101166312
Not him, but explain calmly and collectedly how the 4GB extra vram will help anon, despite he already told you the 4070 Super outperforms the 7900 GRE in the benchmarks for the games he plays and that he will use 1080p. I'll wait.
>inb4 anything
I have a 7900 XT so you have nothing to accuse me of.

>>101166172
>IBM Ultron RX 10900 XTX
hearty kek

>>101166096
>>DLSS frame gen of Nvidia is much better!!!
>Needs vram to work, meanwhile Ngreedia just keeps releasing 500-600+ cards with meme amounts of it
>>RT is much better on Nvidia!!!
>Needs vram to work, meanwhile Ngreedia just keeps releasing 500-600+ cards with meme amounts of it
Your Nvidia cards are pretty much made to last 1-2 years at best. DLSS won't save you.

guys is a used RX 6600 for 140 euros a good deal?

>>101166190
you forgot minecraft

>>101166388
No, you can buy a 6800 for 300, and the 6700/50 for like 30-50 more than 140.

>>101166347
Worth a shot. 0RPM mode isn't as big of a feature as you think btw. The standard minimum of 20% is going to be below the noise floor in 99% of environments.

>>101159400
any standout SSDs (1-2 TB) for the price at the moment? I'm helping out a friend pick out some parts, but haven't done any shopping for parts since 2020. I have a Western Digital Blue SN550 and it's served me well (casual usage + pc gaming). don't need anything crazy. I'm in the US and am browsing Amazon and Micro Center atm.

>>101166499
No, unless you want to get a TLC based driver which carried a 10-20$ premium over the budget QLC-based ones.

>>101166499
This offer expires in about 8 hours. There's some FUD about performance degradation but it's unsubstantiated.
Some people don't know these drives throttle performance as a thermal protection measure.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yGTp99/sk-hynix-platinum-p41-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-shpp41-2000gm-2

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sJPQzy/kingston-kc3000-2048-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-skc3000d2048g
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDt9TW/lexar-professional-nm800pro-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-lnm800p002t-rnnng
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/crKKHx/western-digital-black-sn850x-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t2x0e

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/266NnQ/western-digital-blue-sn580-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t3b0e
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3QXJ7P/kingston-nv2-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-snv2s2000g

>>101166499
SN770 is one of the best for the price, you can also go for the SN850x if you don't mind the extra bucks.
If you want premium go samsung, with the 980 and 990 pro.

does Mobo matter for 1% lows?

>>101166572
>>101166574
>>101166598
great, thank you!

>>101166414
>No, you can buy a 6800 for 300
link? they hover around 400 where i live.
>RX 6700 XT
also really expensive.

a used RX 6600 seems to be the only decent budget (~150euro) choice.

>>101166609
In the sense that a better one can stabilize faster memory OC, yes. But not by much.

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>>101166633
I use wallapop, you have to pay a bit extra for their scam protection service when you buy there though.
But i've bought GPUs for stupid prices there more than once.

>>101166695
Buyer protection is worth it, some scammers are selling video cards with the GPU & memory chips soldered off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFVwfKEajvo

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>Install new mobo and upgrade from 10400f to 7800 x3d.
>transfer over pure rock 2 fan
>CPU temps are at constant 55-60 fps on idle
>buy a peerless assassin cooler
>temps drop to 45-50
>close the case
>the temps shoot back up to 55-60
>Open case
>drops down again
Do I need a new case?

>>101166776
>fps
meant c.

>>101166776
No, set a lower maximum CPU thermal limit in the board BIOS if you're paranoid about temps (80~85°C).
The boosting algorithm won't exceed that limit.

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>>101166417
i realized that i had the PWM fan from zalman cnps9900max that i could test. it turned off its LED and stopped, so asrock B650I lightning wifi is confirmed to actually cut off the power. le hecking based. i'll check more reviews but as you can see in pic related, lian li uni p28 seems to perform better than noctua nf-a12 at medium to high speeds while being cheaper than i could realistically hope to get new/unused nf-a12 chromax for on the secondary market. my delidded 8600G is efficient enough to run at 0 rpm fan speed in light loads.

>>101166805
I'm not really paranoid about temps per se. I know that x3d has the thermal limit of 95 so I'm not really worried about that cause during testing I could reach round 80 but never 90. But I wasn't liking that during idle it kept pumping 60c even though load on cpu was barely 8%.could it be that my case needs more working fans? Right now I only have 2 CPU fans, + 2 chassis fans, but there are more fans in the case that came with it that aren't even working. Should I buy something like a splitter to have more of them working?

Does the brand of storage matter that much? I am planning on going to buy all my parts on friday and I am still a big confused on the differences between brands.

>>101166865
modern chips can handle the heat, AMD says they can run at 95C for years. it takes manually setting a high voltage and running a high current load to ruin a chip any time soon.

>>101162079
It's faster outside of avx512 though

>>101166865
The chip is fine, getting more fans or a completely new case isn't going to noticeably improve the longevity of that processor.
If it makes you feel safer, make the change(s).
They are validated to run at maximum operating temps for consecutive years given voltage and current is under control.

>>101166388
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/VzCZxr/asrock-challenger-oc-arc-a580-8-gb-video-card-a580-cl-8go
177 yuros, actually new so you get warranty, slightly better than the 6600 though with the caveat that any game has a 10% chance of not working.

>>101166981
yeah and that ipc uplift would be around 1-10%
totally worthless since they aren't coming till 2 months (if even then) and they will cost more than 20% compared to current gen chips
also can you vouch there wont be bugs on launch with the new amd chips? (amdip has been well documented in history)

>>101167085
Amdip is hairchasers propaganda from running unstable ram overclocks
And it's coming out in a month

Your reply truly exposes your biases clearly

>>101167115
*preorders will be available at the 31st of july
you will not and cannot have it in your hands in less than two months

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stutters and bugs go hand in hand with amd, A FACT

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>>101167153
Give me an estrogen coreless high end intel CPU and I'll buy it

>>101166865
Make sure the CPU cooler is making proper (& even) contact pressure with the chip, which can affect thermals & performance.
https://youtu.be/Mm4hyIHe1PM?t=607

Don't buy anything with Zen 5c(uck) cores
The inter-core latencies from p-to-c are atrocious

/pcsg/
PC Shilling General

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>>101167185
you need those for light singlethreaded loads and they also help with idle power consumption. these are something in which amd is lacking. mr rajesh

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hello anons, not sure if this is the right place but I bought an OLED alienware monitor back in February when the first 360hz ones dropped (so I can make use of my 7900xtx) but the more I play games, I notice these little patterns in dark locations and occasional corner flickering.
I initially assumed it could be a rendering technique or game specific but I noticed it happening on my PS4 too.
I plugged my old monitor in just to fully make sure it wasn't a gpu issue and low and behold no fucking lines, leading me to believe the oled is at fault.
is this normal for oleds or should i return this shit asap?

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ok so lian li uni p28 doesn't seem to have the best noise to performance ratio for pure airflow but for static pressure like in this test with a radiator it has the best noise to performance at 40-60% fan speed. noctua nf-a12 is better at super low speeds but at that point i would be in 0 rpm mode i think. so i might get just a single lian li uni p28 with free shipping for the cpu cooler and reuse my arctic p12 argb as a case fan since case fans don't need as much static pressure so it seems unnecessary to buy an extra lian li uni p28 just to use as a case fan.

>>101161392
Yesn't

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>>101167306
My big cores can do all that just fine and with low idle power
I don't buy intel marketing propaganda

I haven't built a PC since 2017 so I'm out of the loop. Do people still buy stuff from Newegg? Or is it just all through Amazon now

now that arm cpu revolution is happening for windows and nvidia can get past intels x86 monopoly what purpose does either intel or amd have in the future
nvidia can just make everything needed to run a pc

>>101167428
Newegg is fine if you buy new parts and they're sold & shipped by Newegg or sold by the component manufacturer (ex. sold by Seasonic, shipped by Newegg for PSUs).
Amazon is the same, but Amazon probably has an easier refund/replacement policy.

Newegg has very strict rules wrt new video card returns, they'll send you a new replacement. Rarely ever full cash refunds.

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>>101167413
NTA, the idle current in my 12700K gets too low for the VR VCC sensor to track it.

Do they still make monitors that don't have razor thin bevels? I hate them. If so, any good ones?

>>101167590
check those 32" 4k qd oleds that came out in 2024

>>101167590
Philips makes some decently thicc ones.

>>101164046
>be quiet
I'd believe you if I didn't have first-hand experience with how shit their QA is for premium products. Years ago I bought a NEW 850W unit with awful coil whine and I sent that shit back as fast as I could. Things like this should absolutely not happen with expensive brands.

PC gaming is overpriced and dead as a genre.

The cheapest new entry to desktop gaming is $600 USD which is doing the bare minimum build of a Ryzen 5500 with an RX 6600, 1080p 144hz monitor.

Ebay is filled with poojeet scammers and people that markup the price either because they are greedy jews (even though it costs $8 at most to ship a small CPU) yet they add $60-80 tacked on to what it should be worth a $30 Ryzen 3600.

PC gaming is only for richfags nowadays.

If you don't have $2000 USD just don't even attempt to build a gaming PC nowadays.

Also don't recommend the steam deck LCD, it's garbage and $300 is still too much.

>>101167685
>PC gaming is only for richfags nowadays.
As it should be
The hired help are not entitled to a gaming PC

>>101167703
OK well have fun with that as 80% of the slave population revolts

It took me 4 years after the pandemic to buy an RX 6600 and now I can finally play graphically intensive games at 1080p without relying on my shitty thinkpad that I was using.

I only got an RX 6600 because it was on sale -20% off on amazon at 170 and I had got a $200 gift card for my birthday from a boomer family member.

4 years to get off integrated graphics and buy a GPU that could actually play games. We'll remember this.

>>101167732
you could always get a knife and rob some asian walking down the street, force them to withdraw money from their account and go on from there

>>101167732
>Slave population revolts
That never happens and is just a fantasy sold to slaves to make them feel good

>>101167685
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b4jKjH
This is slightly better than what you mentioned for a little over $600.

>>101167529
That's a one off
Raptorlake undid and reversed the course of Intel's efficiency by using a leaky version of the 10nm node and increase the minimum vcore voltage back up to 0.8v from ADL's 0.6v

Anyone have an EK Nucleus? How do you like it?

Also does anyone with an aio have any luck tying the fans to temperature taken from the outside of the hoses instead of CPU_FAN? I'm sick of them revving like crazy even though the water temps are probably low.

Can I use AIO pump headers as regular case fan headers?

open case, ran heaven, gpu temp is 81C and hotspot 104-105C, I need to return this shit, right ? it starts thermal throttling after 20 secs

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KWLKjH

I was thinking about upgrading my CPU, does anyone have a good recommendation? I don't want to spend more than $300 for CPU + cooler

>>101167643
>>101167655
Thanks

>>101168188
get 5700x3d + increase the budget to get NH-D15 Gen 2

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>>101168188
The new AM4 CPU will be released in July. It is equivalent to the 13700K check benchmarks for that to see if it's strong enough.

>>101168188
>>101168212
>5700X3D 65W TDP/88W PPT
>Noctua D15G2
Don't waste your money on Noctua
Just get a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE

>>101168223
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoCYyg6ecLM
retarded amdjeet

>>101168247
Whoops wrong link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkKQ4VCDL7M

>>101168247
>>101168261
>Posting IntelUnboxed
baka

>>101168270
>amdjeets already turned on amdunboxed

>>101168277
>Intelibans pretending they never had IntelUnboxed in their pocket

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>>10116824
I'm not giving you's to jerusalem shitskins promoting their glownigger heater.

>>101168231
>>101168212
The NH-D15G2 has a profile of 165mm, which is exactly the max clearance of my case, whereas the TPS120SE has a profile of 154mm and is $70 cheaper, so it makes me lean towards that. Will it really be enough?

A big reason I'm upgrading my CPU is that it's overheating (I'm just using the stock cooler), probably just needs to be cleaned and thermal paste re-applied, but if I'm already going through the trouble I might as well just upgrade my cooler, which I've been wanting to do for a while. But I've wanted to upgrade my CPU for a while as well and I have some money to spend anyway so I figured I'd just go all out and upgrade the CPU as well as the cooler. So keeping my CPU cool enough is important to me (plus I think Elden Ring is crashing because the CPU is overheating :/)

>>101168312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaJBsQPqxRA
Nothing competes in value compared to Thermalright

>>101168312
check if the case is compatible https://ncc.noctua.at/cases/all?q=td500

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>>101168312
>>101168326

>>101168343
remember that db alone isnt enough
you need to factor in the type of frequencies the coolers generate as some are more annoying than others + how it sounds ramping up
noctua is good at being less annoying

>>101168356
Sure but is that worth more than double the price?
That's up to anon to decide but I doubt it if he's coming from the stock cooler

>>101168363
the cooler lasts over a decade, just buy noctua

>>101168368
>both are air coolers that last over a decade
>both cool within a degree or two of each other
>just spend more than twice as much for "noise" reasons
retard

>>101168401
buy 1 starbucks coffee less per year and you'll afford it

>>101168410
Both are unnecessary wastes of money
That extra money towards Noctua could instead go towards a better CPU or GPU later

>>101168356
>>101168363
Is there a video where you can hear the sounds they make? I'm looking on youtube right now.

I mean I can just buy the cheaper one and if it drives me telltale heart crazy I can just upgrade and I spent $35 to learn that I have misophonia

>>101168425
I don't know if there's a direct video comparison between the PS120SE and NH-D14 in the same video but at least in the review I linked, there's a sound test for the PS120SE
Linked with timestamp
https://youtu.be/iaJBsQPqxRA?t=320

>>101168425
you'd have to listen to them irl to experience the difference
buy the cheaper one if you dont care about rumoured the upsides of noctua

is lg 27gp850 good enough?
any other 1440 gayming monitor, because msi G2724D doesn't exist here for some reason

also, is oled really worth it
thinking about asus PG27AQDM, how long until it shit itself and die?

>>101168312
>>101168356
for the price difference you can buy any replacement fans. with a $300 budget it doesn't make sense to buy a premiumeme brand cooler. the cpu should just throttle with heat and not crash.

>>101168563
No one can decide for you if it's "worth it" because that's subjective
Do you (know) you value the colours, contrast ratio, response times, peak brightness/HDR, etc. that OLED provides? That it could be worth it
Do you value longevity of the panel over the above specs? OLED's drawback of burn-in might not be a problem to you personally if you're a richfag for example. You could just replace it with a new one (with newer OLED tech)
Basically, you need to take that leap of faith and just try it out if this'll be your first OLED monitor

>>101168563
it depends
any ips is pretty similar to each other besides the high end 480hz with bfi/ulmb2, pretty good pixel response times, absolutely hideous contrast
Id buy the https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g3xmn for better contrast

but if you can afford oled by all means buy oled

I got an r5 3600 and a 3060 ti, what should I upgrade to?

>>101168613
yeah, I'll stick to ips
>>101168620
>Q27G3XMN
doesn't exist here, the one that does cost fucking $600 equivalent

>>101168640
5700x3d, wait for some 50xx that seems appealing to you and upgrade gpu to that

>>101168712
Thinking about that. Moving to am5 completely right now is not worth the cost even with 9000 on the horizon right

>>101168563
G2724D is a Dell monitor
Did you just look for G2724D or MSI G2724D?

>>101168758
If your system is primarily for gaming, you'd be waiting for the new X3D chips unless the 7800X3D is significantly discounted.

>>101168640
If you feel like 3060ti is outdated, just go straight for 4090.

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>>101168425
Whatever you do, don't buy the Gen 1 D15 or NF-A14/15 fans.
Gen 2 D15 is releasing in July, get any of the Thermalright coolers or a Scythe Mugen 6 dual fan if you can't wait that long.
D15 Gen 2 is going to be very expensive ($150), but it'll pay for itself if you plan to carry it over through multiple systems.

>>101168759
huh, yeah my bad
G2724D does exist, how good is it compared to lg 27gp850?

>>101168826
Dell G2724D is pretty much all you need @ 1440p before you step up to OLED or future miniled monitors.
I know there are higher refresh rate 1440p monitors, but very few gamers are good enough to claim a 165Hz monitor is holding them back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bj59SEc3f8

how often do i need to update my 3080 drivers? after a clean os install i stopped auto updating driver with geforce experience, current drivers are from march

>>101168903
when a new game you wana play comes out
or if your pc gives nvidia driver errors

>>101167763
it does happen but only when someone else decides it

>>101168590
>the cpu should just throttle with heat and not crash.
well... someone tell fromsoft that because it's never done that before and it's only happening now that my CPU is getting hot

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By Saturday all my parts will be here
I can't wait to build my machine and play some games
Thank you /pcbg/bros for all the help

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Does buying a more expensive overkill motherboard in a given OEM's lineup mean it should last longer even if I'm pairing it with a lower-end CPU and don't need any of the extra features? I only upgrade every 8-10 years.

For example, comparing these two B760 SKUs from Gigabyte here:
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/wdjBD3,Kc6p99/
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B760-DS3H-AC-DDR4-rev-1x#kf
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B760-AORUS-MASTER-DDR4-rev-10#kf
It's ~$135 vs. ~$280, will paying more the heftier heatsink, vrm, and whatever else mean it should last longer?

Reading NO-POST troubleshooting threads online, I see that the mobo is one of the most likely culprits for failure in a system and if you are 5 years in to owning one, finding a replacement is nearly impossible and usually means upgrading the CPU (and likely RAM) as well just to get back running. I don't care about extra features/specs but if spending an extra $50-100 would mean several more years of lifetime on the board I can budget for that.

What specific parts of the motherboard fail the most often anyway?

>>101169016
try testmem5 1usmus, y-cruncher VT3, prime95 small FFTs (AVX disabled), OCCT AVX2 steady extreme, aida64 FPU julia

>>101169160
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/tirqiy/psa_do_not_use_1usmus_ctr_on_ryzen_5000/

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>>101159400
is the 1080 ti worth it over a 3060 ti for work station stuffs?

Got caught up with irl stuff so I forgot to check my post
>>101165635
Yeah that's it
>>101165656
I'll do that then, I found a compatible 400W PSU for $60 on ebay so I think I should be good, I think the next thing after this is getting a SSD to move my windows OS to, might even replace my older hard drive with a newer one

>>101169181
delusional
overclockingniggers like to exaggerate how high they can clock while being """"stable""""

>>101169181
also 1usmus CTR is not remotely the same thing as testmem5