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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)
State budget and COUNTRY or you will not be helped

>NEWS
Ryzen 9000 / Zen 5 July launch
Intel Arc Xe2 officially not cancelled

>12VHPWR
DO NOT USE ANGLED 12VHPWR ADAPTERS
Fully seat a 12VHPWR connector in its socket, otherwise the connection can melt.
https://youtu.be/ig2px7ofKhQ?t=1345

>CPUS
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: i3 13100
Gaming: R5 7600; budget: R5 5600
eXtreme gaming: R7 7800X3D; alternate: i5 14600K
Multicore: R9 7950X; budget: i5 13600K
>Avoid iGPU-less CPUs
>Existing AM4 board with an old chip? Consider a Zen 3 CPU

>GRAPHICS CARDS
1080p: RTX 4060; budget: RX 6600; ultra budget: used RTX 2060
1440p: RTX 4070 Super
2160p: RTX 4080 Super (at MSRP); budget: RTX 4070 Ti Super
Amateur production: RTX 3060 12GB, RTX 4060 Ti 16GB, used RTX 3090, RTX 4090

>RAM
DDR4: Zen3/AM4 - 2x 16GB 3600 MT/s CL18; for locked "non-K" 12th/13th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 3200 MT/s CL16
DDR5: Zen4/AM5 - 2x 16GB 6000 MT/s CL30; for unlocked "K" 13th/14th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 6400MT/s CL32

>COOLERS
Standout: Peerless Assassin 120 (or variant)
https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

>PSUS
Not worth buying a new PSU unless it's ATX 3.0 compliant
Aim for 50-75% PSU utilization at full system load
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atx-v3-0-pcie-5-0-ready-psus-picks-2023-hardware-busters/ (updated for 2024)

>SSDS
Standout: SN770 2TB
Avoid: outdated Samsung 970 Evo Plus, cheapest NVMe SSDs
https://ssd.borecraft.com/

>MOTHERBOARDS
Good power delivery is required for Intel CPUs like the i5 13600K and above
Don't pair a K CPU with a B mobo chipset

>GAMING MONITORS
Standouts: Dell G2724D, AOC Q27G3XMN, MSI MPG 321URX
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/dP3v4D

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>>101196101
>beat the 7800x3d
Not happening
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>>101196107
asking again
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>>101196107
*at single threaded performance with no 3d rendering
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>>101196079
no such thing, buying new hardware these days is like setting fire to your wallet. even if the hardware was reasonably priced the software still fucking sucks so it's garbage anyway
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>>101196091
where's the anime figure
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i won't lie, i came a little
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>>101196147
You don't get any with this troll op with biased recommendations
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>>101196179
i buy the cheapest fans possible with relatively decent cfm and then just put my pc under my desk and i dont hear it

noctua a scam
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>>101196179
A dumbass Radeon buyer would overpopulate his case fans.
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>>101196179
this will be me when i get that nv9 case.
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>>101196200
Only an Nvidia poorfag will get mad at fun things
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>>101196211
Negative air pressure, worse cooling performance, and a noisier system are fun for retards like you.
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>>101196230
It literally doesn't matter. You know that right? Sometimes people do things just because they can. Like you for example. You choose to stay alive even though you're a waste of space. You should off yourself. But you don't. Why? Because you just wanna be alive. And that anon just wants to have all his fans populated. Let people live and enjoy things. If you don't like it you don't really have to be mean about it.
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>>101196259
>It doesn't matter when you install case fans that have an adverse cooling performance & contribute to a louder system, especially when you buy old & overpriced Noctua 140mm fans.
Literally coping and seething.
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>>101196274
Humans are illogical creatures. You probably do plenty of things that don't make sense. You still do them though.
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The win 11 context menu is absolute unproductive garbage
so I google how to edit it and first result is "edit the registry lmao"

Whats going on at microsoft. Do all the indians need to be fired for there to be a program that allows people editing the right click context menu?
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>>101196281
And others will point out dumb shit.
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>>101196288
Computers are luxury items for the most part. Spending any money at all on one to play games is dumb. Spending a bit more to make it look the way you want is not any dumber.
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>>101196292
Spending more to make your system literally perform worse is dumb. Overpaying it with ancient NF A14s is even worse. End of story.
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>>101196299
those temps will literally change nothing. his gpu won't change clocks
his cpu will still reach the same clocks
it makes no difference
if it makes him happy then the goal has been accomplished
happiness is not dumb
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>>101196091
My 4080 Super arrives tomorrow but I only have 2 PCI cables, one of them has 2 6+2 connectors, it is totally fine to daisy chain them right? It won't fry anything? I'm not planning to overclock the card anyway and it caps at 298w/100% usage in most benchmarks
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>>101196301
Noctua fans are performance-oriented fans.
When you buy Noctua fans to degrade cooling performance, it's stupid.
When you buy Noctua fans to increase system noise, you're hopeless.
It's dumb, end of story.
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>>101196311
you are hopeless
i hope you find happiness in your dull life
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>>101196315
You're dumb and hopeless when you buy supposedly "noise-optimized" Noctua fans only to end up increasing overall system noise.
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>>101196179
>definition of metal illness
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this nigga really hates noctua eh ok then
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>>101196331
everytime i come here he's seething about noctua for one reason or another and yes, i am replying to myself. i had more to say.
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>>101196324
What is
>shape of noise (annoying vs not)
>durability of fan (fucking stops vs works forever(
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>>101196343
What is
>Overpopulating fans where system noise is amplified
>Paying a premium for a lower QoL
>Deriving happiness out of suboptimal, overpriced, brown fans
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>>101196292
You forget that that this is poorfag general, we are talking buy the cheapest ugliest ziliton components, throw them into milk carton and hide that shit under desk out of shame like a crack head. If you want to look at nice rigs tou go to pcp or numerous rebbits
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>>101196331
I mean he probably has to work for a day or two to even afford one, so it must be infuriating to him
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>>101196352
>look at nice rigs
That system doesn't look nice at all, mATX board in a full-sized case?
Fully populating the system with 140mm Noctua fans but the video card's a bitch-ass ASRock PG Radeon?
There's plenty of good looking systems with Noctua fans, that's not it.
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>>101196292
This is an opinion which counts for fuck all little brother
Keep it to yourself next time
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>>101196331
>>101196364
I don't hate Noctua fans, it's just dumb to overpopulate case fans.
It's even worse when you're degrading system noise & cooling with Noctua fans.
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>>101196350
>>101196386
Was it not a joke pic?
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>>101196427
A dumb "joke" pic is still dumb. It's actually quite sad to see that kind of system.
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>Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)
1440p@144hz gaming, sims 4, stardew valley, minecraft (with lots of mods, aka https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/all-the-mods-9-to-the-sky)
>State budget and COUNTRY or you will not be helped
kangaroo land (australia)
>budget
is $500 or less? reasonable?
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7hdVN6
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>>101196474
already have the monitor, gpu, case*
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>>101196474
>Under 500 AUD
No
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/bVHMh3
Best I could do
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>>101196494
The ITX board limitation is making it hard to fit your budget.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/bwpwBL
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>>101196556
>>101196564
i could always try and sell the case for some money, it's brand new, bought for a homeserver that i never made
if that means i can make a better desktop, it's kind of a bad shape for mounting under my desk, smaller form factor would be nicer though
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>>101196605
Yeah
>>101196556
Here, I looked at your 3 components and didnt see the ITX case
>smaller form factor would be nicer though
Yeah I dont know what to tell you, anon was right, with an ITX mobo your 500 AUD budget gets blown up
Montech Air 100?
The Asus Prime AP201 is a smol microATX
No idea how it performs
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>>101196605
The board won't make much difference, it'll just help you get closer to your budget.
The more affordable cases come with RGB fans.
Budget cases with non-RGB fans only have one preinstalled fan.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/QG6th3
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>>101196259
>>101196281
>>101196292
>>101196301
>>101196315
>>101196343
You act based on your emotions, like a woman. Your excessive consumption of HRT has damaged your brain and thus your ability to come to logical conclusions. PC building is for men who care about pure performance and not about colors, happiness, feelings and cosmetics.
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>>101196308
should be fine with undervolting to be safe but i still wouldnt trust it even then

get a proper cable
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>>101196556
>>101196564
>>101196679
>>101196691
thanks /g/entlemen, looks like i5-12400f is best price/performance, motherboards are too expenny for mini-atx, looks like ill sell the 304 and put it towards a cheaper micro-atx case
enjoy the rest of your day *tips fedora*
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>>101196712
>pure performance
got you covered.
https://noctua.at/en/products/fan/industrial
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now that win11 mandates taskbar on the bottom all you need to do is to use the monitor in portrait mode
that way the taskbar takes less screen real estate
its a bit of a problem when watching 16:9 videos tho
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>build a 5k gaming pc
>get a really nice oled screen
>tell myself I'll play all the vydia I possibly can
>literally all I do is watch youtube videos and surf the web

my fucking oled screen will get that burn thing, fuck my life, what a waste of money. Vydia is so boring.
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>>101196808
why are you using wangblows 11
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>>101196808
Its a bit of a mystery why microsoft can place the taskbar on the bottom in portrait mode which is the same place where it would on the left for landscape mode, which you're not allowed to do.
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>>101196813
play some good games like the witcher anon
its that easy
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>>101196813
Game development is taking too long and most of it is trying to make the next evergreen multiplayer game with high margin MTX.
The single player story games are mostly woke shit.
The better games usually are just cross generation titles that don’t require a powerful PC.
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>>101196937
>>101196945
I might just be depressed. honestly. I can't get over the fact that I haven't seen my oneitis in 2 years and in the span of those years she's probably done sexual stuff with other men, it torments me thinking about it. I legitimately go through like 10 games every day, I play them for like 20 minutes each and then get sad and switch to another. All games are just bad,
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>>101196970
stop fantasising her, think of all the shit she did wrong
download tinder, go to the gym or /fit/, better yourself in one way or another, go to a pub/club with your mates if you have any, make 1/2 an effort to make eye contact with attractive girls and smile/reciprocate their facial expressions it's not hard
also, getting another girlfriend won't make you un-depressed, you need to fix yourself first before you can be happy with a partner
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>>101196813
I occasionally play old games but they don't require good hardware, which is why I could get away with not upgrading my years old crap PC.
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Going to ask again, are pre-builts still the best way to get a PC from scratch with GPU prices as they are, or have they come down to where it's worth building again?
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>>101197115
GPU prices are going for MSRP, you won't get any cheaper than that with prebuilts. Just build one. We don't have covid prices anymore.
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>>101197126
Awesome

Couple more things: I have a spare Z590 motherboard, what is the best CPU I can put in it? It's an LGA 1200 socket, and I was looking at one of these: https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i9-11900kf-core-i9-11th-gen/p/N82E16819118259

There's also this case for ATX boards that I've seen here quite a bit that looked really good that was recommend here with a woodgrain/green color scheme. Anyone remember the name?
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>>101197341
>Z590 motherboard, what is the best CPU I can put in it? It's an LGA 1200 socket
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-11900k/24.html
The 11900K is much better in productivity despite being an 8-core instead of 10-core, but in gaming the 10900K pulls ahead so pick your poision (and whatever is on sale or you can find a deal used on Ebay).

>There's also this case for ATX boards that I've seen here quite a bit that looked really good that was recommend here with a woodgrain/green color scheme. Anyone remember the name?
This? It's a Corsair Carbide 540 Air with custom vinyl paneling (not real wood). There are real wood accent cases on the market like the Fractal Design North series and Corsair 4000D Airflow Wood, also Lian Li & Antec are about to jump on the bandwagon too with new models see here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ZAcK8fKf0&t=228s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pARWmgnfcVU&t=409s

There are also real custom wood panel cases you can order/commission on Etsy for $$$
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Does anyone find the growing number of 4090s that have specific parts harvested off them for sale on ebay? there's like a weirdly high amount of them for sell
> Maybe China actually IS up to some funny business
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>>101197503
Thanks!
Also the case I was thinking of, and you reminded me of it, was this mini-ITX case
https://www.newegg.com/Jade-Fractal-Design-Terra-Small-Form-Factor/p/11-352-214

But the mobo I have is not a mini-itx mobo, so I guess I have to decide if having the form factor beats just buying a new mobo or a combo on sale
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>>101197563
Maybe if I specified why I want an ITX it would help: I need to be at a standing desk because of a medical problem, and a large full-sized case would likely affect its movement for where I can have the standing desk. A smaller form-factor would allow me to put it on top.
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I intend to get this graphics card.

https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-6800-rx-68xlaqfd9/p/27N-0002-00117


and maybe also update my cpu to a 5600x or 5700x if its absolutely needed, but at that point id also need like, thermal paste and a new heat sink and its gonna stress me out to install those because i retarded.

I also hae a 1tb hybrid drive, im sort of fine for storage though, i just keep a few games downloaded at once usually.
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I've been running a GTX 1070 with an I7 9700 (non-k) for years now, and am now looking to upgrade the GPU. What would be the highest end GPU that my current CPU could reasonably support?
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>>101197675
shit, im so stupid, it cut my link.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gybxz6

i also plan to buy a 1440 high refresh rate monitor, later.
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>>101197693
youd want to upgrade both cpu and gpu or you're bottlenecking yourself
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>>101197506
It was a while ago where they were taking the GPU and memory chips off aib cards and putting them into blower GPUs to sell as AI accelerators
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>>101197702
Is a 9700 really that weak nowadays? I can't imagine there isn't a current GPU that pairs well with in.
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>>101197718
i see. i was not aware of that
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>>101189218
The more air pressure the cooler the air becomes
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gybxz6

I intend to get this graphics card.

https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-6800-rx-68xlaqfd9/p/27N-0002-00117


and maybe also update my cpu to a 5600x or 5700x if its absolutely needed, but at that point id also need like, thermal paste and a new heat sink and its gonna stress me out to install those because i retarded.

I plan to get a 1440 high refresh rate monitor later down the line.
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>>101197719
you might want to look at am5 7800x3d platform first and then add a gpu to it
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fuck, I got a 2060s and returned it because it was overheating, then found a 2070 tried to ask for a lower price , got no answer and I just paid what the guy was asking and this faggot cancelled the sell, this is the universe telling me not to waste my money on this shit.
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>>101197693
4070 super would be the limits assuming you have fast ram like 3600cl16 or better
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How is this build? I don't do anything that's CPU or GPU intensive, but I might play some light games every now and then. Budget is $1300

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/hjtfWt
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>>101197759
Looks reasonable. I would want a 5600(X) at minimum with that card but you wouldn't necessarily need a new heatsink - the 5600(X) is more efficient than the 2600. You may /want/ one though for lower noise. Consider also the 5*00X3D if you prefer higher FPS over high settings and/or play a lot of games that scale well from cache.
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>>101197821
fine, there are cheaper SSDs of that size or you could spend ~50 and get the same SDD model but double the size
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>>101197821
It's good but also kind of overkill for web/office and light gaming. Not a bad thing if you have the cash to spare, of course.
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OK, I will ask
aiming to get a new rig.
use: mostly light gaming, maybe some AAA if something really good appears, 1440p
preferably no rgb shittery but a white case mite be cool
country: spain
budget: 1400€
thanks frens
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>>101197842
the 5700x3d seems like a solid choice at $200 to me, cant find a 5600x3d, i worry about my motherboard keeping up, id hope its fine.


Thanks.
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>>101197888
prob need to up the budget a bit to get both 7800x3d and 4070 super without going super cheap on all other parts

am5 mobo
32gb ddr5 ram
7800x3d obviously with NH-D15 gen 2 cooler
4070 super
atx 3.0 750w psu
fractal north case has white option
2tb nvme ssd
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>>101197906
The motherboard will have no problem. Those CPUs pull ~50W while gaming and <150 under a full bore stress test.
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>>101197925
>>101197925
nice, so im looking at a 5600x3d or 5700x3d for CPUs to repalce and the 6800 seems like the best card for the money ive found, could go higher and spend anoht $140 or so but it doesnt seem worth it. I was intiall comparing 6750xt, 7700xt, and the 6800 and the 6800 seem to be the most powerful card for long term and about the same price
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>>101197888
This is what I got at €1400. Will play any game on the market at 1440p with minimal settings tuning or upscaling. If you have a spare €100 for aesthetics then go ahead and get the North per >>101197920.
https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/Yd4fWt
FWIW, this build is kind of overkill for light gaming. You could easily get it under €1k if you'd prefer to save the money.
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>>101197920
i really dont think im gonna need the 7800x3d as of yet
decided to switch a couple things so that the budget wouldnt go completely ridiculous
how's this
https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/RFFNMV
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I have a Ryzen 5700x, I saw that there is a 3D version that aint THAT expensive, is it worth it now or should just i wait 1-2 year and go full AM5? Are the 3D processors worth it? For programming/general work i feel my 5700x is good enough and i game on 4K so its all GPU anyway almost always thats why i am debating, but maybe i am missing some 3D benefit
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>>101197751
Makes sense to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbpb23yTK8
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>>101197979
>https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/Yd4fWt
that's a beautiful one, anon, I'll probably pick a couple of your options to extra optimize the budget
you think there's a lot of difference between the montech x3 and the air 903?
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>>101197951
Well like I said it depends on your game preferences and budget. As well as your upgrade intentions. If money's short then the 5600 would be fine. The X3D would mainly be good if you play more CPU-heavy games or like to target high FPS over high settings. It'd also probably let you get another card upgrade later without a platform swap. Leave it too "late", though, and you'd need a new CPU too.
Personally I would take the X3D if budget permits because it'll get you the most life out of the AM4 platform. Probably enough to skip AM5/DDR5 altogether.
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>>101196091
Telling ppl to buy GPUs in the 500-700 bucks range that come with 12gb VRAM should automatically get you gun down.
Stop being a Ngreedia drone.
https://youtu.be/dx4En-2PzOU
https://youtu.be/P2qs2lLdWHY
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>>101197986
3d is great but in your case you'd have to be playing games that see some of biggest gains from the v cache for the cost to be remotely worth it as an in place upgrade to the 5700x3d.
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>>101198024
honestly my goal is to get as much life from this machine as possible, If I do replace it before am5 ends, it would be going to someone else that would be intending to use it for years to come anyway, so it makes sense to tsort of "Max out" this build.

I prefer higher framerate personally so the 5700x3d seems worth an extr $50-60 and I think the 6800 is enough to sustain higher frame rate 1440 gaming for the next 4 or 5 years at least, id hope.
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>>101198021
Not for a <300W system like that. The 903 is "better", strictly speaking, but at €90 for the white model it's a hard sell. They're meant to be cheap cases. If you're prepared to spend up for build/QOL/looks you might as well go for a more mainstream manufacturer eg. Lancool 2, H5 Flow, 4000D, 500DX, etc. They all have white cases in the €100 region.
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>>101197852
>>101197859
Thanks anons for the feedback. It's an overkill for my purposes, but I'm hoping it will last 10 years like my current build
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>>101198064
That's settled then. You will have to drop settings to get high FPS on AAAs but you would with any $300 card so whatever.
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>>101198079
id be at like, just under $600 shipped with those two items. Im very tempted to try to push for another $100 or so and see where i can push the graphics too, is there any card youd reccomend over the 6800, even spending as much as another $100 or so? Thank again for the help
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I've got $1000 to put towards upgrading my current 1700x and GTX 1080 build. heres the parts I've selected thus far. Any recommendations or changes I should make?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sjYFVW
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>>101196308
You're completely fine
>In truth, an 8-pin PCI-e port on modern PSUs can supply over 300W of power each (up to 342W, depending on model). Thus, two 8-pin PCI-e ports are more than enough to provide the required 600W. We provide both 3 x 8-pin and 4 x 8-pin versions of this cable for extra redundancy.
https://cablemod.com/?faqs=dont-pci-e-ports-only-provide-up-to-150w-per-port-how-is-it-that-a-3-x-8-pin-cable-can-be-sufficient-to-power-gpus-that-require-up-to-600w-at-peak
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>>101198136
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sjYFVW
whats your mobo? will it keep up?
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>>101198071
OK, I was thinking that if I had to pick another I'd go for the 3000D, but I dont care that much about looks.
i just want a white case with good cooling that has 3 usb connectors up front and jack audio input
is the montech still my best bet?
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>>101198163
I looked it up. It the Asrock xx370 Taichi.
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>>101198136
why buy ram, unless your current system has less than 16gb or something
amd gpus are pretty redundant these days, they cant into dlss or rt. Look at 4070 super instead
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>>101198199
>Asrock xx37
im not sure that board supports the cpu youve got here, let me check.
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>>101198208
I'm upgrading my RAM because its 16gb and also 2666 mhz. Also, the 4070 Super is just too expensive for my budget, and I really don't need RT at all.
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>>101198199
>>101198220
looks like youll just need a bios update, i think youre good actually otherwise, nice.
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>>101198233
Yeah, figured as much. I can't really think of any AM4 mobo that doesn't support the latest AMD CPUs.
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>>101198221
its a bit weird to buy 32gb ddr4 ram when you could get am5 with ddr5
4070 S should be within 100e of GRE tho
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>>101198246
You're asking me to build an entirely new PC at this point. I've got no reason to throw out what I've already got when it still works great. You also seem super hooked on the 4070 Super when I've got no reason to want DLSS or raytracing. It just doesn't come up much in the games I play, at least not to a massive extent that I'd want one over the other.
Again, what I'm doing now just makes more sense then what you're trying to sell me.
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>>101198294
how about you keep your current ram setup and use the savings to buy a 4070 super
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>>101196091
>Avoid iGPU-less CPUs
Why? 7500F is $50 than 7600 where I am at.
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>>101198294
I get where they are coming from, if youre going so hard on the graphics card and such, it sort of makes sense to jump to newer generation of motherboard and such, especially if youre already buying a new set of ram and a new cpu, its not much of a jump.
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>>101198167
Frankly it's all pretty marginal. Your requirements are relatively basic (if you'll permit a type-C) so any of the cases listed will do. That means it does come down to aesthetic preference (and how much you're prepared to spend).
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>>101197341
Just build from scratch, why would you use old computer parts? that's gross. Buy once, cry once.
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Whats the cheapest motherboard I could throw a 2600x in, pair it with an 1660 or an rx480 ive got, and play games?
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>>101198303
Not him but just curious are you the OP?
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>>101198303
I've grown tired of arguing with you, so I'm going to stop now.
I have zero interest in downsizing my ram to satisfy your fixation on the 4070 Super.
>>101198336
While I would love to make the jump to AM5, I'd only do so in order to get the 7800x3d or whatever AMD releases thats the equivalent. At the moment, I do see the point in getting rid of much of my existing hardware. If it wasn't for my need for better performance, I'd have kept the 1700x and GTX 1080.
Maybe its my midwestern sensibilities, but I just don't like throwing out perfectly usable things.
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whats up with midwesterners and being anti 4070 super
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>>101198369
>AM4 Zen 2
Probably this ($60): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MWGKHR9
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>>101198396
its for a child so im going to trust this blindly, thank you.
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>>101198369
Something like the MSI b450 Pro-VDH Max might be a better option than >>101198396 because it has the full 8-pin CPU power connector instead of the 4 pin one.
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>>101198390
This is why nvidia can get away with 12gb vram 5070.
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>>101198377
>Maybe its my midwestern sensibilities, but I just don't like throwing out perfectly usable things.
im the same way, but like, you could just build a second machine at the cost youre purposing ans use your old one for a specific purpose.
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>>101198414
>MSI b450 Pro-VDH Max
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-ProSeries-Micro-ATX-Motherboard-PRO-VDH/dp/B07XH629TV?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=A1FJ9SEK1UVDTX&th=1
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>>101198489
I really don't want to run two computers. I'd rather just have one that does everything I need it to. Also, if I wanted to build a brand new AM5 computer, I'd have to spend about $300 more than I would've just upgrading what I have.
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Picking some parts out to upgrade my mid range PC from a couple of years ago. Mainly for gaming, video editing. Gonna keep my two M2's and my 650w power supply. Could use some advice so I can blame someone else than me for picking out shit parts.
Running a Ryzen 5 3600 and 2060super right now, still works good enough but I got about 1k to upgrade the aging equipment.

Is upgrading to DDR5 necessary at this point? I got 32gb of DDR4 ram and figured I can still use them for a couple of years. Problem just is, I have NO fucking clue about mainboards at all, arr rook same, got the same names, I cant tell the fucking difference. No idea if the tower cooler I put into my shopping cart can even fit that on the H610M I picked.
My idea was to grab a i5 13600KF with a 100$ range mainboard. Why? Fuck, I dunno, the price is good and it got decent results in testing. I wanted to stick with AMD but their prices are just about the same if not worse than intel for what they deliver.

As for the GPU, 4060 TI or 4070S considering the next 4~5 years? Could get a good deal on a 4060ti right now about 200 bucks cheaper.
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https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-confirms-flagship-arc-battlemage-bmg-g31-graphics-processor-with-32-xe2-cores

INTEL WON

THANK YOU INTEL
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Help me anons i'm addicted to HDR.
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>>101198659
buy oled
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>>101198616
>Running a Ryzen 5 3600
The most economical move on the cpu front is a 5700x3d or 5800x3d as you get to keep your platform and both cpus are no slouch.
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>>101198665
I did, hence my addiction.
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>>101198616
While the 4070 makes sense, don't bother looking at the 4060 or 4060 ti. Nvidia really isn't worth it in the low end.
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>>101198616
Seconding the other anons. Install a 5*00X3D, keep your RAM, and upgrade to any card you want. If you can afford a 4070S, get it. If not, the 6800 is good value right now.
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>>101198670
I looked at that myself but I'm worried as the X470 GAMING PRO MAX mainboard I have is not even listed on my go to seller sites anymore, fuck not even Amazon has it anymore. Apparently discontinued in its entirety in 2023, so might be too old for its own good.
And the 5700x3d and 5800x3d need the cooling tower right? Would that even fit? I haven't used these new tower coolers before.
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>>101198747
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X470-GAMING-PRO-MAX/support#cpu
The board will run it with a BIOS update. If it's working fine otherwise there's no need to replace it.
Yes you will want aftermarket cooling, as you do with any CPU really, Just make sure it's compatible with AM4 and fits in your case. AM4 is extremely popular so 99% of coolers you can buy today will support it. You don't need the biggest baddest tower to cool those chips but there's little reason not to when they're $40.
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>>101198747
>>101198782 beat me to it
You'd already got a truck load of DDR4 RAM, drop a 5800X3D into your motherboard and you should be fine.
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>>101198747
I looked into your motherboard and the latest bios supports the 5700x3d and 5800x3d, so just remember to update the bios before installing a new CPU.
What cooler do you have on it now? Honestly, any current CPU cooler on the market will support an AM4 CPU. Check out Thermalright's tower coolers. They usually have the cheapest prices and they work great.
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>>101198782
>>101198791
Ah that's great then. I'll slap that bios update on it then and get myself the 5800x3d with the 4070 super.

>>101198796
It's some AMD cooler, I think it came with the CPU itself but it has been a while so I have no idea anymore. Looks like pic related.
I'll look into the thermalright coolers then, they aren't too prices ain't too tight with the price now if I grab the CPU upgrade, I take it the PC part picker will show me compability issues even with fans and mainboards right?
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Any reason not to just buy more SN850Xs for additional storage instead of HDDs?
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>>101198782
>
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09LHBFPJ6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A1BCKG4OE2CKC4&psc=1


this enough for a 5700x3d?
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>>101198981
NH-D15 gen 2 should be better choice when they're available any day now
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>>101198891
HDDs are cheaper and don't take pcie lanes
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>>101198981
yes
>>101198998
>just wait to buy this cooler that costs 5x more bro
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>>101198998
im looking to go with something cheaper if possible, I dont see the advantage of going so big on that when a much cheaper option ought to be fine.
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>>101199033
girls you bring home wont be impressed with a small chinese cooler
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>>101199064
tru!

I have a fancy case with a temper glass panel, and it faces the wall. I dont know why I bought it.
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What's the best pick here for an x670e mobo? They basically seem to have the same specs. My build has an 7800x3d, the 4070 ti super, and 3 ssds.
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6 going on 7 years. first gen ryzen chip. may be about time to replace the beast
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>>101199120
why do you need x670e
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Planning on making my first computer for college and personal use (studying Data Science) plus gaming (most intensive game will probably be Arma 4 when it releases eventually). You guys think I should wait for the AMD 9000 series or just go with the 7950x3d?

Here's the build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hHHjz6

If you guys have any other advise for the PC let me know since this is my first time building one
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Since theres no thread for it, im gonna post it in here

WHY IS SO HARD TO FIND DUMB TV NOWADAYS ??????? WHY EVERYTHING IS SMART TV ???
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>>101199356
Money is not an issue, and these seemed to have higher quality than the other chipsets.
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>>101199449
As shit sorry forgot to mention
Region: US
Budget: ~$2000
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ok, please help a retard
DeepCool AG620, will it fit on a Montech X3?
would consider AIO but the Montech already has coolers everywhere
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>>101199462
https://www.sharpnecdisplays.us/products/displays/me651
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>>101199486
then get the most expensive one
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>>101199166
Slap a 5800x3d in there and call it a day.
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>>101199505
>college

get a laptop
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>>101199594
>Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4
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RIP stupid questions
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>>101199577
>DeepCool
Anon...
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>>101199678
I'm getting a laptop on the side (probably a M2 Macbook), but I still want a PC in case I have to do more intensive things and also for games
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCzjA5pdsNs
>giving money to monitor manufacturers rather than glorious nvidia
>getting better image quality without ray tracing
How do we go about silencing these heretics!?
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>>101198045
Curious how there's always shilling for the 4070S in here when it's precisely the kind of lower VRAM card that becomes obsolete faster.
>HD7970 on dartboard
Kek
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>>101199699
>some people believe 60hz is sufficient for gaming and those people are wrong
TOP KEK
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Is it possible to have a computer with two hard drives, different OSs installed on each and two monitors which display the different OSs
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>>101199768
no the os takes control of the hardware present
you can dual boot tho
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>>101199782
is it better to dual boot from two hard drives or the same hard drive
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>>101199807
windows has a tendency to take a big shit all over any other OS installed on the same drive
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>>101199807
I guess it would be difficult to install OS on a drive with data in there and not have it format the drive
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>>101199831
If you partition it up it can be done.
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>>101199891
yeah at least for win11, but Im not sure how other OS would handle it
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>>101199904
Other OS would show your other partitions. Just don't overwrite the NTFS or EFI partition.
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Any of you guys gayming on a new gen Nvidia on Linux? What's the experience like?
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>>101199693
its pretty high on the cooler list
yea I know its not the peerless assassin but that's unavailable
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>>101199956
Worse than AMD on average, requires extra fiddling and using worse software, but not unusable.
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>>101199967
Just as long as you don't care about the warranty
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>>101196712
Everyone acts based on emotions. It's literally called being human. Your autistic larp is kind of embarrassing honestly.
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>>101199967
At this point, the AK620 is much more unavailable than the Peerless Assassinl
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Quick question: what applications would benefit from more than 32 GBs of RAM?
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>>101200083
>>101200109
OK, OK
what would be a good alternative for the montech then
i might go for another case if that one is too noisy tho
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>>101200121
blender
3ds max
anything dealing with 3d models/textures/etc
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>>101200121
A large ramdisk
Massive excel sheet
MySQL
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I've been using the Dell U2715H for quite some time, what's a good upgrade? Can spend up to $1k. I'm honestly quite confused with the OLED or not debate, but I don't want any burn in.
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>>101200202
Oled will burn in. That's just the nature of the technology. The only other option is mini led. I personally use a mini led ips for most things and then i have an oled for movies/games.

for 1k you can get the neo g8 (mini led va) or any of the new 32" 4k 240hz oleds. all the same panel from various brands.
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>>101200136
Consider the Thermalright Phantom Spirit, or the ID COOLING FROZN A620.
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>>101200202
>Dell U2715H
Do you game at all?
$1K is enough for a nice 32" 4K QD-OLED, and if you only use it for content consumption (games/video) and keep your current LCD as a side monitor for general desktop usage burn-in shouldn't be an issue.
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Convince me not to buy a 7900 XTX
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>>101200312
eat shit
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>>101200312
I mean, its not a bad GPU at all. However, consider looking at the prices of the 4080 Super. If they're within $100, then get the 4080 Super. If not, the the 7900 XTX.
Also, are you a Linux user? if so, go AMD.
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>>101200312
it's your money. waste it however you want.
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>>101200312
You're beta testing chiplets. Monolith GPUs have less issues like 6950XT or 4080.
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>>101198619
BATTLEMAGE LIVES
>LNL 8xe at 2ghz vs Top Battlemage 32xe at 3ghz, that's 6x the theoretical compute power. Battlemage scores 4200 Time Spy at 30W APU power, Battlemage could score 24K TS with perfect scaling = 4070Ti
https://x.com/Hanniba46652340/status/1807008643792966030
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>>101199956
Just werks for me in my kinoite-nvidia:gts machine
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How can I get a Ryzen 5 5600X3D in Europoor? Not willing to throw money at my old AM4 board but still want a better upgrade than a regular 5600. Is there any way I can get it shipped from China through Temu or Aliexpress or such?
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>>101200312
Remember /pcbg/'s eternal rule: better dead than red.
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>>101200369
5600x3d was a limited release, get a 5700x3d instead
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>>101200369
Have you looked into the 5700x3d at all? I tend to find them for similar prices where I'm from and they should be more available to you. Also, you get more cores on top of that.
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>>101200320
>>101200327
>>101200328
>>101200335
thanks bros
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>>101200121
Virtualization, particularly WSL2 (uses half your RAM by default)
anything-sync-daemon for a large working directory
large databases
memcached or redis
AI training
web browsers if you're a tab hoarder (I once clocked my browser at 23GB on Win10)
IDEs
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>>101200389
>>101200391
That was my next choice anyway but it would be significantly more expensive than a 5600X3D. What am I missing out with the 5700X3D compared to the 5800X3D? I'm guessing it's a worse bin and won't OC or PBO as high.
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>>101200256
Forgot to mention, but I prefer staying on a 1440 27 inch monitor. I'm used to the size at this point, and 1440 is comfy for my GPU. Also, apparently nobody on pcpartpicker uses OLED displays? Or are they just too new?
But yeah, I use my PC mostly for reading and gaming, and watch some stuff once in a blue moon. I don't think I want to worry about burn in, so I think I'll just grab an IPS monitor. It seems like the Q27G3XMN is pretty good?
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>>101196091
Why was the OP changed? Anyway...
>ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer
Are these the best options if I want Wi-Fi and Bluetooth? i.e. should I get either of the above and then buy an external antenna? Or just I get one among pic related (and if so, which)?
>Aim for 50-75% PSU utilization at full system load
What does that mean? That if the partpicker's estimated wattage says 516W then I should get a PSU that's rated for 750-1000W?
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>>101200446
>Q27G3XMN
It's being called the best mini led monitor in that price range, but it's also VA so it has terrible ghosting and VRR flicker. The alternative is the cooler master GP27Q which is IPS mini led, has more dimming zones, but the firmware is asscheeks.

Truth is every single monitor technology has some glaring downsides. It's impossible to get the perfect monitor in any price range.
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>>101200426
>significantly more expensive than a 5600X3D
no
it was a limited release, you literally cannot find one from a retailer and the ones on ebay sell for more than a new 5700x3d
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>>101199166
How did you get two 12GB sticks of DDR4? Where did you get a 4GB 1080????
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>>101200504
retard
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>>101200489
Okay fair enough
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>>101200426
Honestly, you're not going to see much of a difference between the 5700x3d and 5800x3d (especially in gaming).
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>>101200519
Thought so. How is the shader caching stutter on the X3D chips? It's basically the reason I'm planning to upgrade.
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>>101200549
Reduced but it isn't something you can brute force away.
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>>101200549
Definitely better, though I'm mainly going off of my own experience (using a 5800x3d).
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>>101200590
That's unfortunate.
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Has anyone measured monitor power consumption with resolution? Are sub-20w 4K displays possible?
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>>101200639
sure, at 30hz.
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>>101200312
the pcb mask is non-carcinogenic
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>PC makes humming noise
>*reboot pc*
>humming stops
What just happened? It wasn't the hum of the case fans.
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>>101200738
case fans resonating the case itself?
if you're not using rubber connectors it can happen
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>>101200738
Do you have a mechanical hard drive? could've been the sound of the disk whirring.
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Day 450 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.
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>>101200738
check the psu
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>>101200486
Yeah, going through these monitors is making me remember how I went insane before I decided on the dell one. Every single one has some quality that makes it shit, even moreso than any other PC part. It seems like it all comes down to luck.
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>>101200738
This happens to me sometimes as well, my GPU won't stop coil whine even after I stop using it and its only goes away after a reboot
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>>101200519
Is 5700x3D worth the upgrade over 5600x?
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>>101200835
not in the least
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>>101200835
That depends on your needs.
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what kind of hard drive should i be looking at for my computer
B650m pg lightning motherboard
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>>101200878
2tb nvme ssd
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>>101200878
Something NVME would be the easiest to install. Have you looked at the Kingston NV2?
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>>101200866
>>101200877
>1080p
What about 1440p?
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>>101200519
What page is this?
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>>101200915
5600x is fine
if you want to upgrade and have it mean something you'll need am5 with 9800x3d or wait what intel shits out with their 20A node
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>5700X3D @ $250
>5800X3D @ $350
>5950X @ $370
Which of these makes most sense as a final drop-in upgrade for AM4 workstation users? Or would you be better off waiting for next-gen parts by this point?

t. 3700X user since launch
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>>101200944
x3d doesnt do much for workstations, and you just want cores/threads, so get the 5950x for am4

The upcoming am5 9950X would be your most efficient upgrade for work.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/97493/amd-ryzen-9-9950x-cpu-tested-zen-5-chip-is-46-faster-in-cinebench-r24-than-7950x/index.html
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>>101200944
If your productivity workload greatly benefits from having more cores, get the 5950X.
I'd get the 5700X3D otherwise, the higher boost clocks on the 5800X3D aren't worth the $100 premium.
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>>101200920
The chart is from Hardware Unboxed. I pulled it directly from their Youtube video.
>>101200915
I don't have any charts for 1440p, but individual games tend to show the same thing: the two are within 2% to 5% in terms of performance.
>>101200944
Have you considered the 5900x? its $250 and has 12c/24t.
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>>101200981
Christ, if that's true this is going to further obliterate passmark scores. And here I am still using 1000-3000 score CPUs.
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>budget: $300-$700 at least
>polen
>gayming in older titles at 4k, photography, image/color accuracy/texturing editing, office work
I don't need any new parts, I need new monitors. I'd like to get a low-power (but still not gimped) 1080p IPS panel with some modern features to replace my 12 year old 1080p display, and a 4K display for the really fancy pictures. Is there anything out there these days that's worth upgrading to?
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Are 5K/6K panels a thing for desktop monitors?
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>>101201094
Samsung Odyssey G70B is prob fine
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>>101201134
they are but you won't find any high refresh rate ones
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>Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ
>Dell S2721DGF
>LG 27GP850-B
>Dell Alienware AW2724DM
I'm losing my mind looking at monitors. These 3 seem to be my choices for a 1440p 27.0" IPS monitor in the 144-165 Hz range. Any particular recs or are they the same? Currently leaning towards Alienware just because it has the fewest reviews, so there's nobody shitting on it.
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>>101201142
60Hz is fine by me, I'd like find some ultra sharp displays that go beyond 2160p for daily usage.
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>>101201177
Ive seen LG pretty cheap on amazon so its prob fine
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>>101201177
I have the asus one..or a variant of it (27aql1a). it's good. gsync works as advertised and it doesn't brightness flicker.

the only issue is that when BFI (elmb sync) is enabled, you will notice red strobing. this is an issue with red phosphor they used https://blurbusters.com/beautiful-red-phosphor-in-new-1ms-ips-1440p-lcds-interferes-with-blur-reduction-badly/
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>>101200915
It's a CPU benchmark.
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Why are 5k/6k/8k desktop displays marked up out of stock unobtanium?
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>>101201265
>>101201205
https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/
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>>101201269
>apple
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>>101201315
So do you want a good 5k/6k display or did you come here to be retarded?
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>>101201315
Turns out only apple took image quality (retina) seriously. When gaymen plebs were going "omg latest gayems look shit on my decade old 1080p display!!!!11111one" they blamed the wrong reason. Who knew that PPI (among a few other metrics) matters? Not /g/ that is for sure.
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I'm thinking of getting a 4K monitor, but I want to know first if the scaling thing that Windows does for the UI affects everything, even executables. For example, if I open a windowed game at 1080p on a 4K screen, will Windows scale the game too and make the window look bigger? Or will it run the game in native 1080p even though Windows scales the rest?
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>>101201372
the window will be scaled
the game will not
some shitty devs don't account for window scaling and their programs look dumb. it's rare but happens
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>>101201372
>Windows does for the UI affects everything, even executables
It depends sadly is the answer. Most games i've found will ignore windows scaling entirely and just run off the reported base resolution. Doom 3 for example DOES respect windows scaling so running the game at 4k on a 4k screen with 125% scaling has it going off the edges of the display.
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>>101201177
Dell/Alienware for the longest had the inability to update firmware on their monitors but they fixed that on some in modern times
I would pick the cheapest the one on sale when we are talking about these slopcore monitors
Unless there is some big flaw
I'm considering the LG because it's on sale
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>>101201352
>retina
Its an apple marketing term. Other people cant make retina displays since they're not apple.
>When gaymen plebs were going "omg latest gayems look shit on my decade old 1080p display!!!!11111one" they blamed the wrong reason.
wat
>Who knew that PPI (among a few other metrics) matters?
In what range and what activity
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>>101201432
yeah i'm not even the guy you replied to but you are genuinely retarded. why did you ask about 5k/6k displays when you don't know anything at all?
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>>101201457
I would rather get 120hz 4k display than 60hz anything else
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>>101199462
>Why
Because companies sell your data and get paid putting slop into tvs
You can disable alot but if you want none you buy a monitor as always
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>>101199166
>The beast
Senile old man on crutches when launched and now a fully decayed composted bone skeleton
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>>101201511
No such thing as 50 inch monitor
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>>101201334
You can get 8K displays for half the price of their offerings.
>>101201352
It's like people forgot that anti-aliasing and pixel density used to be the main determining factor of image quality in games before deferred rendering and dynamic lighting substituted baked lightmaps.
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>>101201529
what
>>101201457
he wasn't asking
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>>101201094
Dell has the low power market cornered I think.
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the process of building the pc and researching for parts and all the jazz was more fun than actually using it kek... I still use my old laptop more
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>>101196813
Atleast you can watch slop media in 4k hdr
And when that game comes out you can play it..
Yeah
>>101196945
The fact that sloppers pay for shit mtx skins that cost the entire sum of making actual food games has destroyed everything
Inshallah the Day of the slopper will come
>>101196970
You can't have a oneitis if you actually made a move on her and got rejected, you did do this right? RIGHT?!
>>101197697
Zen3 vanilla is slow compared to x3d if you gonna upgrade minimum
>>101198679
You must be subbed to the guy who rants about hdr and mbr on his cx constantly
>>101201601
Your cpu
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Should I be worried about microsoft Pluton?
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>>101201587
>It's like people forgot that anti-aliasing and pixel density used to be the main determining factor of image quality in games
That is because it is a combination of poorfags (not toasters) in denial better exists and ignorance of gaming that falls closer to /vr/ territory these days. 1080p has been mainstream for best part of 15 years but screen size has kept climbing.
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>>101196259
hows your reddit karma
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>>101201719
>Should I be worried about microsoft
The question should've stopped there and the answer is yes.
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>>101201719
at most you wont be able to play pirated games anymore and you'll receive hardware bans from games and websites
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More and more I'm starting to find the people who endlessly whine and cry about RGB far more annoying than those that want it. People care about aesthetics, and if they want light up fans in their case, and aren't worried about slightly worse cooling performance, who fucking cares? Enjoy your featureless black box if you want to, just stop pretending you're so much more 'mature' for not wanting RGB for fucks sake.
It only really looks terrible anyway when they don't configure the colors, and leave it as generic rainbow.
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>>101201739
>poorfags
the late 2000s gpu price wars focused on anti aliasing before we even had 1080p mass adoption
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>Be Quiet! Fan
>It's not quiet
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>>101201801
If I plan to run Linux, will the Pluton chip be disabled?
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>>101201889
>Watercool gpu for lower temps/noise
>It ends up being louder due to waterblock not suppressing coil whine
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Looking through some old components I've got
>RX570 8G 0C
I remember the shit was loud as fuck with those.
I need to know the name of this particular 4slot pin layout for fans. My intention is to get some adapter for PC fans and slap some pc fans to it with zip ties. Cause the replacements fans are scarce and expensive.
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Please rate and improve my build bros, this shit took a while.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xBfTL9

Highest priority is silence, since my current setup is extremely fucking annoying with my new open ear headphones. Money is not an issue, but I'm only really playing shit like Genshin Impact, Elden Ring, and LoL so there's no need for a 4090 or anything (and it'd be louder). I bought the PSU ages ago and then forgot about building a PC for a while, this is why it isn't 3.0. I read that Nocue fans are overpriced, but they're still supposed to be the most silent so whatever. Not sure about the current case, I just chose the highest rated as a kind of placeholder since it's hard to see the difference between cases. Region is europe.
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>>101202126
Most gpus (lmao fuck you asus) use a off-the-shelf 5 pin fan header and adapters for that exist for 3 or 4pin case fans. Something like this https://www.watercoolinguk.co.uk/p/EK-Waterblocks-EK-Cable-PWM-Fan-Adapter-for-GPU-50cm_62064.html
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Do you guys have UPS reccomendations?
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>>101200450
Someone pls respond
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>>101200312
>Driver has crashed
>Driver has crashed
>Driver has crashed
>Driver has crashed
>inferior upscaling
>Worse RT
>Worse in everything you do if it's not gaming
>Also worse in gaming cus 4090 exists
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>>101202535
>Driver has crashed
>HDR doesn't display correctly
>VRR doesn't handle full screen correctly
>Shader stutter like hell
The Nvidia experience
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>>101200450
>>101202390
PSUs are most efficient at 50% load or something but in practice not many people get double their wattage so yeah, just go 75% for power spikes I think.
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I'm still rocking my ~8 y.o. R3 2200G + GTX 1060 6GB PC, but I'm thinking it might honestly be a time for an upgrade. From what I've seen the 5800X3D and the RX 6700 XT are the go-to for a cheap upgrade that will handle most stuff on 1080p without any major issues, but what I'm concerned about is the power requirements - I've got a 500W PSU, should I also get a 600W one with it?
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>>101202702
I have had a 550W PSU with a 5800X3D + 3060ti for a year now and I haven't had any issues so far.
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>>101202702
Is it a good 500w psu? Pure wattage that is fine but handling the spikes is where the "headroom" people talk about comes into play.
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>>101202622
>Using anything AMD related
>Using their factory reset driver
>Bricks PC
I love AMD
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WD Blue SN580 2TB - New drive for more space
Sandisk Ultra II 240GB - Old 2014 released drive on SATA port
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>>101202622
Radeon can't display HDR correctly out of the box a lot of the time, retard. Nvidia can. Nvidia also has RTX HDR, which is amazing. Radeon of course doesn't even have a poorly performing """"competitor""""" feature. Also Radeon has just as much shader stutter as Geforce or Arc. You Radeontards really are tech illiterate bullshitters

>>101202133
The monitor is mediocre.

>>101201719
>>>/g/fwt

>>101201372
>if I open a windowed game at 1080p on a 4K screen, will Windows scale the game too and make the window look bigger?
No, but the window will be tiny
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>>101202779
That sounds fine, PCPartsPicker says that the estimate is around 450W which prompted me down this path, but I really don't know anything about PSUs
>>101202780
I actually can't find any proper tests for it, it's a Be Quiet 80+ silver unit so I believe it's probably somewhere in the "alright" category, but it's been working so far without any issues
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>>101202975
>The monitor is mediocre.
What do you suggest then? I heard high hz 1440p is still too much for stuff like the 4070, same for 4k.
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>>101202995
To be more specific, I found tests for the 600W version, but I don't know how much the quality differs between the various wattages within the same product line
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poorfag here, I need advice for a motherboard
I had a rig in 2019 and I forgot the motherboard model I think it was a B350 and I was using a Athlon 3000G and I was able to use 1 HDMI output and 2 DVI (D and I) outputs at once and used 2 monitors and 1 TV

What motherboard allows me to do that now for that same 3000G? I don't need a GPU I actually use a Pavillion 23 and want to sell it for a mITX desktop

Mostly for use on my TV and 2 monitors with Retroarch and some 4K Blurays using a USB disc drive
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does the 1070 really mogs the 3050 ?
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>>101202975
woah you turned up too late to peddle your wares anon - better luck next time!
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>Dell G2724D
>amazon €320
>dell site €255
what's the catch wtf
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>>101203009
>I heard high hz 1440p is still too much for stuff like the 4070, same for 4k.
A 4070 Ti Super is entry for 4K because of DLSS. 4K DLSS Quality looks better than 1440p TAA or DLAA, because the reconstructed resolution is higher and the base input is the same. It's always better to turn whatever base resolution you can run into a higher resolution with DLSS Super Resolution, and of course there's Frame Gen to factor into the equation as well. The only real question is whether you can shell out the money for a good monitor, like one of the recently released 4K OLEDs. Considering you're buying a $260 mobo and a $500 PSU, that money would definitely be better spent a decent display.

>>101201177
The Dell is the best

>>101200835
No. Not nearly enough performance increase if you're trying to keep the AM4 board. A 7800X3D starts to become worth it from a performance standpoint, maybe not a cost standpoint, especially if you've already got the 5600. Likely you're GPU limited in a lot of the situations where you think you're CPU limited anyway

>>101200450
Yes, just get a board with Wifi. Of those options, I would choose between the ASRock B650E and the Gigabyte Aorus Elite

>psu wattage
If you're buying modern Nvidia components, you'll be just fine with a 750W PSU.
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>>101203185
Yeah, thats fine.
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I installed Corsair Vengeance 64GB (2x32GB) 6600Mhz RAM but task manager only shows 4800Mhz. Is this normal? How do I fix it?
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>>101203342
Have you activated XMP in your BIOS?
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>>101200486
>it's also VA so it has terrible ghosting
The ghosting is about on par with the IPS of yesteryear. It's not bad. The monitor is notable because it's one of the few VAs with fast enough response times to be worth buying, and it's miniLED to boot. Also VRR flicker only occurs when you're massively dropping individual frames, which happens on OLED as well. It's a downside, as some games that you might want to play will probably have that type of stutter, but if you have decent standards and don't play games with garbage performance, it's not really an issue.

>>101200312
The 4080 Super is far more performance with higher image quality in practice. Also the quality of life is much better with Geforce cards. You'd have to be a retard to waste nearly $1,000 on a Radeon product

>>101200202
>60 hz
Hope that wasn't for gaming.

>>101199699
Haven't watched it. In fact I've pretty much quite watching AMDumboxed, much like I quit watching MLID long ago. Their content isn't high enough quality to be worth the time. Monitors Unboxed is still worth following however
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>>101203264
>Considering you're buying a $260 mobo and a $500 PSU, that money would definitely be better spent a decent display.
The PSU is already bought, as I said. And I would have no problem shelling out money for a good monitor, but the expensive ones are all OLEDs as you mentioned, and I just really do not want to have to deal with burning in. My PC activity is pretty repetetive.

>>101203409
>Hope that wasn't for gaming.
It was. Should have upgraded a while ago really, but it honestly always felt fine. I'm gonna have to see just how much of a difference doubling the hz makes.
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>>101203398
I haven't touched any bios settings. Shouldn't it be on by default on modern mobos?
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>>101203458
It isn't turned on by default at all. Its something you'll have to turn on yourself.
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>>101203468
ok i see
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Do modern SSDs like the 990 Pro or SN850X still follow the "20% free space" provision or can they work well/last longer with less?
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>>101199462
Used market

>>101199449
>radeon
>science
Pick one

>>101198619
Even the Intelaviv posters are conflicted about Intel because of Arc. I wonder how long it'll take for the bar chart outlets to start recommending Arc, drivers be damned.

>>101198616
>is upgrading to DDR5 necessary at this point?
No, you can reuse it. Get the non-F version, as iGP can come in handy. Also get a Z board for the power tweaking options and make sure it has good enough power delivery for a 13600K
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>>101203497
I'm not sure if it still is or not, but if you've only have %20 free space left, you should probably be looking into a bigger drive.
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>>101203527
>>101203527
>>101203527
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>>101203437
>I'm gonna have to see just how much of a difference doubling the hz makes
It's really about adaptive sync / VRR. There are plenty of games where you won't be able to push your monitor's max refresh rate for one reason or another (example: the CPU limited MSFS 2020), but you can frame limit to whatever FPS your system can reliably push, making the best out of a bad situation. A 60 Hz monitor would have a lot of tearing and judder under traditional V-sync in the most CPU limited areas, unless of course you're locking to 30 Hz with half V-sync or using something like Fast Sync, which still has tearing. Having said all that, especially with Frame Gen, you can easily run at 120 FPS or better in most games. For me 75 FPS is about where a gamepad controlled game starts to feel good (or a top down game like Baldur's Gate 3), and 120 FPS decent for slower mouse controlled games. For competitive games, the higher the better. My 144 Hz monitor isn't enough.

If you need any tips about how to use VRR, just ask and I'll give a you a few.

>>101198616
>As for the GPU
4070 Super

>>101197986
Not worth upgrading from a Zen3 chip if you're keeping AM4
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>>101197821
>light
If they really are light, just get a 5600G and be done with it. You'll save yourself a bunch of money

>>101197782
A lot of old cards will need to be cleaned and undervolted to run acceptably.

>>101197693
Depends on the games you're playing, but I would look for a used 3060 Ti or 3070

>>101196308
You have to populate all of the adapter's connections. If your PSU has the splitter cables, you'll be fine.
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>>101202667
>>101203264
>in practice not many people get double their wattage
Because of the price?
>If buying modern Nvidia, you'll be fine with a 750W
PartPicker says estimated wattage is 513, that's 75% of 684 and 50% of 1026. Where it gets confusing is that 650W seems close enough to not pay the extra for the 100W increase, much less all the way to +450W, but I have a hard time finding efficiency ratios, since 50%-75% is a huge range. How much am I missing out?

I had chosen the Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 ATX 3.0 650 W 80+ Gold, which is 86 € currently. 75% of 650W is 488W, and 513 is 79%. Is the drop in efficiency that drastic?

>I would choose between the ASRock B650E and the Gigabyte Aorus Elite
Thanks.
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>>101203926
>I had chosen the Thermaltake Toughpower GF A3 ATX 3.0 650 W 80+ Gold, which is 86 € currently
If it's a lot more expensive to get the 750W, no real need, especially considering how good modern PSUs and Nvidia GPUs are at respectively absorbing or controlling power spikes. The efficiency difference isn't drastic
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>>101202311
Package your goods carefully in the smallest package possible. Label it clearly. Don’t skimp on packing tape!
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>>101204015
The Thermaltake is the most quiet, 2nd most efficient, and 4th ibest performance in the 650W rankings, ATX 3.0 ready, for 86 €. Meanwhile, similar metrics for a 750W is 143 €, for 850W up to 220 €, and for 1000W up to 260 €, if I want ATX 3.0 as well.



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