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>>101265464
thanks for stopping by

is summer vacation? corporations pass thinkpads again as office hours begin

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X1 Carbon 8th gen i5 10210u 16gb ram 512gb ssd $899NZD / $548USD

or

T480 Thinkpad i5 8350u 16gb ram 500gb ssd $688NZD / $420USD

Which one for university papers etc?
(Yes I know prices are expensive, that's just the NZ market for ya)

Keys keep breaking off on my t14 gen 3. I wanna get a new keyboard but I'm sure it will be just as shit.

>>101266418
X1 carbon is 2.4lbs vs like 3.2lbs and has better speakers, overall better materials and glass touchpad etc.

I'd much rather have that for uni, the other one is only better at saving money.

>>101266646
Just saw a X1 Carbon 7th gen with the same processor and ram but less storage for $750NZD, reckon that'd be a good middle ground?

>>101266742
Yup, I have a gen 7 myself with the i5 8365u, 8gb and 256gb I picked up on the cheap ($200 usd), there isn't much difference between the 10000 series intels.

The overall laptop is great, but for uni get the 16gb for sure

>>101267400
Also should note you CAN'T upgrade the ram on the x1 so def get it with 16gb, but you can upgrade the nvme easy

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>>101265027
T480 is the last good thinkpad

epoxy on my ram and rom

>>101265027
fuck sake where are all the thinkpadists?

>>101269099
>CS
uhm, czeched?

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>>101271424

T14 gen 1 or X1 carbon gen 8?
Both with Intel Core i7-10510U and 16GB ram

Is the E/L G4/3 series any good?
I have the chance to pick up a new E14 G4 i3-1215U for 250 europoors, or should I hard pass the "fakes"?

My favorite part of owning a t430 is going through airport security and being stopped so the staff can check my laptop isn't a bomb. I love this chunky boy

>>101272334
i love it when i combine my 9 cell battery with my casio watch for real time bomb at the airport
i love this chunky boy

If I want something with 16GB RAM, 1080p monitor and is able to do some light shmups and emulate GameCube and PS2 smoothly, what do I get? Maximum 500 bucks but if I can get it cheaper then it's a plus

>>101272840
buy ps2 and jailbreak it

>>101272471
interesting idea

>>101265027
theres nothing wrong with thinkpad E fags

>>101271408
I'm slowly building a T60 frankie, it's a bit difficult to get the parts in my country. I will have to be gutted by import taxes for some parts.

>>101272334
It's sad that a T430 is now considered a chunky boy. Imagine going through security with an A31p fully loaded.

>>101276090
for airports, battery capacity matters and not size

>XPS 13 9300
>3840x2400 13.4" screen
>i7-1065G7
>16GB RAM
>$150
Should I cop? Seems like it'd make a good movie player and vidya emulator for planes

>>101276545
why not

>>101276545
seems like a good deal, probably stolen but whatever

>>101276555
I'll have to get up early and line up and fight boomers
>>101276639
They're legit, the local university sells off their old stuff. There are 7 of them available so hopefully I don't have to fight anyone

>>101265027
I noticed there are some decently priced refurb dell latitudes online. I used to run ubuntu on a t430 years ago and it worked great. How is linux support for dell latitudes?

Thinkpad T60 crashes whenever I use the trackpad or pointer. They seem to work for a few seconds, but the everything freezes all I can do is hard reboot. Problem on arch and all installation disks, although I think xfce unbuntu mouse worked once fully installed. Any ideas?

>>101277446
Idk but Windows 10 works great on my latty 5410

>>101276545
I paid $160 for a T460 with an i7 6500U, gt940MX, 8gb of DDR3 RAM and a 768x1366pp screen because I live in a shithole on southamerica. Is a good price.

>>101277541
>arch
I have identified your problem.

>>101279951
E and L have gotten better over time, T and X have gotten worse. There's not a huge gap in quality anymore like there used to be.

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>>101265027
What is the spiritual successor to the T480?
I LOVE the form factor, IO, and replaceable battery, of mine, but the 8th gen i5 in it is feeling a bit sluggish.

>>101269099
i love my t480s

>>101280156
T14g5

>>101280156
>sluggish
What are you using it for?

>>101280156
T480 is just the starter. You go from here to what you want next. Thinner? X1 Carbon or T14s. Bigger? T15

You can still "replace the battery" in all of them you just have to take the bottom cover off.

I would suggest a T14 with a 4650U or 4750U over a T480 anyday now. The ryzens can actually vidya pretty decently, I'm playing SMT:V at 30-60fps 720p and the T14 display is freesync 60hz. T14s 4650u with 16gb ram is pretty fucken sick imo, the materials are better but soldered ram.

It's hard to believe you can get a 6-8 core laptop that boosts 4ghz+ for $200-300 these days that has the GPU performance of a PS3

>>101265027
what's the benefits of open source bios aside from what open source usual benefits? security? speed?

still THINKering with a X220

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Anyone know where I can source a good quality primary battery and ultrabay battery for an X300?

Are modern ThinkPads still such fingerprint/oil magnets?

Hey anons. I'm on the verge of buying a ThinkCentre.

Is that a /tpg/ approved machine?

>>101281921
for me its hp z220 with coreboot

I want a pad with camm2 but I'm not paying a downpayment for a car for the p1 thinkpad.

My new job got me T14 with 3k OLED and following specs:

Amd ryzen 7 pro 7840u
Radeon 780M gpu
32 gb of ddr5 ram
2 tb of ssd

Not bad.

>>101283540
now use it for h games

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Where are all the 16:10 4k chads?
>>101276555
>>101276639
>>101278398
I got it Anons
>get to store a few minutes before doors open
>5 guys in line ahead of me
>door opens
>guy leads us to the computers newly available for sale, tells us we're gonna go through it all together
>pile of 7 XPSs
>2 of the most dysgenic shitskins start rummaging through the stack
>another employee comes over and chases them off it
>"you all want XPSs right?
>he distributes them among us
>shitskins start saying they need more than 1
>employee sighs, takes them back, says it's auction time
>I speak up, say I just want one
>The others follow suit
>laptops distributed again
>7th one is auctioned off, shitskins back off once it gets to $175
>people start to scatter as they get to the less desirable computers
>meanwhile shitskins are bugging the other employees so they can look at stuff that's not for sale yet
>I grab a couple $10 thunderbolt docks while the employees are running around frantically trying to help everyone out
>patiently wait until they're ready to start checking out
>cute girl that works there says thanks for your attitude
>I thank her for the help and for not going crazy
>she laughs with that tired look
Thanks for reading my blog

>>101284747
Darkies know they get special privileges in our society. Noticing this is known as "racism".

As a darkie, how should I approach BIOS replacement on X1 to not fuck it up?

>>101286205
there is no coreboot for X1

>>101286205
yo wasguud my nigga, how bout u get yo ass to readin' studyin' up that libre/coreboot manual instead of bullshiting this thread my nigga? Yo ass not welcome in this hood lil nigga

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Going to get something like t480 soon, but I'm wondering if it's worth getting one with that MX150 graphic card. Won't play games on it, but I will be using Krita, Godot, Effekseer etc. Also, it will be on charger most of the time so not concerned about battery life.

>>101288163
The MEMEX150 is total dogshit and not worth chasing. Get the i5 model if you care about battery life.

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what does /tpg/ think about the M4800? i'm considering buying one for college
only thing im worried about is how much of a pain it'll be to deal with the nVidia GPU on linux. i'm gonna use a minimal image of fedora and build a fine-tuned system most likely.
i'm aware how heavy this thing is but i'm not gonna be lugging it around much, it's gonna stay in a cabinet under my desk i think

>>101288325
also one more thing: is there a reliable place where i could get the thermal paste replaced in the US? call me a pussy, but this thing looks like a pain in the fucking ass to take apart. i'm more used to laptops where you just take off the bottom cover and don't have to mess with the keyboard deck

>>101288354
>call me a pussy
pussy

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>>101288266
It will be plugged in most of the time so don't really care about battery. I'm mostly wondering about that graphic card, would it improve performance in graphic programs like Blender for example? Looking at something like pic related, but it is a bit overkill.

>>101288401
Not enough difference to matter. It's an extremely small improvement at the expense of battery and thermals. Your use case might be the only one that suits it, so while I wouldn't actively avoid it, don't expect miracles in performance if the integrated graphics counterpart is already marginal.

> be me
> get my first thinkpad yesterday (T490)
> install debian stable, research software works best on debian base due to ubuntu

Anons, am I doing it right? Or must I commit seppuku as I disrupted the Arch destiny of my thinkpad?

>>101288654
CachyOS is the answer

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>>101288654
Debian is great, I prefer Devuan with XFCE personally. I don't have the patience for troubleshooting Arch.

>>101289528
charging above 80% is bad
setup charge control limits in /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_control_*

>>101289666
Go away Satan. I keep my battery at 100% charged and never had any issues in 10 years.

>>101272840
A job

>>101285322
And the ones that creates this culture get their very own SPECIAL brand of racism grievance that will land you in jail in many eurocuck countries.

>>101289666
>satan trips
What about discharge, is 20% still the lowest you want to let one go these days?
I'll probably be picking up a 9 cell battery soon for it too.

>>101289666
>>101291366
>just never use 40% of your battery, senpai
>be sure to buy only Genuine® Lenovo™ ThinkBatteries©
>You never get the advertised capacity with a chinkshit battery

>>101284747
>I grab a couple $10 thunderbolt docks while the employees are running around frantically trying to help everyone out
Give the docks back, Jamal.

>>101291366
It's all a scale, you can be more polite to your battery or you can be more harsh, charge to 90 or 100% if you need it. I set my T14 to 80% charge and barely ever let it go below 50%, if I need more I'll manually change it, but my gf's X1 carbon she's using for uni and might forget to plug in, is set to charge to 100% but only begin charging again below 90%. I don't want her to bitch "it isn't fully charging", but setting the <90% charge threshold is still better than nothing and in real use she won't notice it's only at 92% after being plugged in for days.

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>>101265027
>/tpg/ said T480 is the best thinkpad ever
>54% sRGB screen
Wtf bros, it's worse than MBP 2011's screen,
Sure u can upgrade the screen, but it will be more expensive than a T490 with a built-in much better screen,
Should i sacrifice upgradeability and get a T490 instead?

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>>101292586
I have no idea. I have messed with yoga's and the t480. I run my T480 with Arch, underclocking it, with new batteries(which are cheap). I get an amazing battery life out of this laptop, fingerprint support. the screen? I don't know what to tell you. I hate laptops, I don't want something that is $800 bucks that could be stolen from me at any moment out of my car or bag. I like the idea of a respectable beater laptop that pulls its weight. I love this laptop. It was easy to fix the touch pad, taking it appart was easy. It literally has 2 batteries. USB C, a 65watt GAN will charge it. What more could you want?

>>101292586
Only people without eyes should use a T480. Or any model with a TN screen.

>>101265027
which models have the best hackintosh support? or should I just get a 2012 retina mbp?

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Does anyone have experience with the X100 series laptops? Specifically the X140e or even some of the older models, I'm mainly interested in knowing if they notably more compact than an X230 and what parts availability, upgrades, and general build quality is like.

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>>101288325
M4800 is the legend. You can kill someone with this behemoth, This thing breaks concrete. The IGZO screen is brilliant, feels like using new OLED screen.
Sometimes you can get the model without dGPU
If you want more modern specification, Precision 7540 is the comfortable candidate as "nu-successor". It's the last robust model before newer Precision models become brittle

>>101291366
i use 40-70
i go lower than 40 but i dont start charging until below 40
sometimes i change 70 to 90 if i want more life for the day
>>101289903
show wh capacity
>>101292333
kingsener is best though, even the chinks tell you to not discharge or charge fully

>>101292791
Damn, for $72 i won't complain about the screen lol,
Sadly the cheapest i can find here is $148
(256GB SSD, 8GB RAM)

What does /tpg/ think about the X13s with snapdragon CPU and what is a fair price?

>>101296641
for me its the thinkpad one

>>101296728
actually i thought the snapdragon thinkpad was supposed to be t14, didnt know about the x13 one

>Find T480 that has everything I want.
>It has intel vpro.
Is it worth it if it'll only be used for linux?

Went to a few shops that repair batteries. They only proposed to buy a new one. Looks like they only take jobs that would pay 200EUR+.
>buy kingsener
chink garbage + 2-month delivery because muh lithium dangerous
>do it yourself fagit
The controller self-destructs at a drop of the hat.
It is over, bros

>>101296984
>chink garbage
works on my machine
>2-month delivery
arrived in week

>>101296995
Posting from Beijing?

>>101294416
Are you targeting a specific MacOS version?
I think even the T61 can be hackintoshed.

>>101297015
eu

>>101269099
>>101296984

Can we still get new and genuine batteries for the T480 in 2018+6?

>>101297271
>genuine
doesnt matter
kingsener

>>101297194
OK where you bought it then?

>>101297299
what do you mean where? they only have alishit

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>>101297310
Alishit arrives 4th September, 2 months from now

>>101297357
*estimated*

>>101297413
Aliexpress estimates are fairly accurate. I've been buying there since 2014.
Also since Russia blocks train traffic hauling batteries from China is ass.

>>101296913
vpro is baked into all the CPUs used in business laptops

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>>101288325
The dGPU should be removable, if I'm not mistaken, then you can stick to the Haswell iGPU.
Excellent screen, chassis, and connectivity on M4700 and M4800.

If weight becomes a concern, use a laptop messenger bag.

What's the best classic IBM thinkpad model for running old version of Windows for nostalgia and gaming? I'm looking at picking up one to install Windows 3.1 on specifically so probably something from the 90s lines.

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>only TB ports, microSD, and 3.5mm audio jack
>tfw all the cords booting from 2.5" SSD connected to SATA-USB adapter plugged into TB dock
>mfw it just werks
>>101292491
I paid for them
>>101294670
>Precision 7540
>no clit mouse
For me? It's the Precision 3551

>>101288325
>for college
thanks for proving yet again that /tpg/ is full of broke kids lmoa

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>>101297837
It has one. It's also the last model before it ditched the clit.

how well X230 runs the latest version of Java Minecraft?

I'm debating between a t480 with an i5 8th gen CPU, and a t14 g1 with an 17 10th gen, both around the same price point. I've heard good things about the t480, should I still go with that?

>>101298478
should be ok if you run with some optimization mod
>>101299402
t480 is meme

>>101299449
>t480 is meme
Explain how

>>101299402
Pretty happy with my t480. AMA.

I have no experience with the t14 tho.

>>101299604
charging port is part of mobo and keyboard scratches the display overtime
i would just get the newer model but depends on what you care about

>>101288325
If you find a decent one for $50 or less, fine. Otherwise buy something newer and better. That's a moldy dinosaur.

t480 or frame.work?

>>101299628
Is what >>101299631 said true concerning scratching the monitor? I imagine the vast majority of laptops either have the charging ports as part of the motherboard or are soldered on. Also how's the sound on it? I just need it to be "alright", is it any better with headphones?

>>101300300
>I imagine the vast majority of laptops either have the charging ports as part of the motherboard or are soldered on
older thinkpads have charging port as a connector, so you can swap it as many times you want
also giving you the option to mod usb c charging into it if you have enough autism

i forgot to mention t14 will be the same
>is it any better with headphones?
will be same
>I just need it to be "alright"
get the t14 as its newer than t480
if you care about old thinkpad values get x230 or t430

>>101300362
I'll admit I don't know much about the mechanics of laptop audio, but since both the t14 gen 1 and the t480 are bottom-firing, I assumed they'd have similar audio quality? I also thought using higher quality headphones on a laptop would produce better audio.

>>101300300
No excessive scratches here, tho I keep it mostly closed in my dock.

Sound is mediocre. Low volume, non-existent bass. This is to be expected from a business laptop desu. Same for the webcam.

Therefore I use external devices for these. Easier because I keep it docked anyway.

>>101300472
>I assumed they'd have similar audio quality? I also thought using higher quality headphones on a laptop would produce better audio.
i dont know anything about audio quality on laptops, i said the quality will be same for both
but my guess t14 could be somehow better as the sound card could have improved
I HAVE NO CLUE you will have to research that on your own
you may ask in /hifi/ or /iemg/ they might know the answer

backlit keyboard or regular on x230? is the feel that better on regular?

>>101300472
T14 gen 1 has the speakers above the keyboard and is a significant improvement. I have a T470, T14 G1 and X1C7. T470 audio sucks, T14 G1 is good and X1C7 is great.

>>101265027
I have a ThinkPad.

>>101301244
install japanese x220 nmb keyboard >
>>101301767
me to

>>101298186
Wait, is that a middle click button for the clitmouse? I didn't think Dells ever had that button.

>>101299402
T14 screen will be better unless it's the cheapest TN spec.

>>101301244
The backlit keyboard is OK, I didn't like it at first (had the X220 kbd mod and was coming from a T61) but when that keyboard died I went back to it and I'll grudgingly admit it's very decent and the backlight function is convenient sitting in the dark on the couch.

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What's the modern (made in the last 10 years) equivalent of the X300/301 series?
Something with solid build quality, nice keyboard, removable battery, upgradeable, and preferably the same footprint.

>>101301777
Njce! We should be friends.

Do people actually use the nipple?

Which ThinkPad has a decent quality display?

>>101303419
Framework
>>101304242
Anything with OLED

>>101304058
how else would you move the cursor?

>>101304058
yes, its superior to the touch pad. I don't have to take my hands off the keyboard to move the mouse around.

>>101304323
>Framework
Maybe when someone makes a trackpoint keyboard for one.

>>101304600
The chassis is open source so its not impossible for someone to make a trackpoint keyboard for it

>>101304642
Sure, it's not impossible, but not something I'm able to do myself in a reasonable timeframe either, and I haven't seen anyone else make one yet either.

>>101304058
>>101304242
The ones with a 1440p or 4k panel, always the most expensive one, often OLED

If being more realistic, pretty much any one of them with an IPS panel

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I wish we lived in a world where IBM still made Thinkpads :(

>>101305874
セクシー

>>101303419
just keep the x301, there will never be anything better

>>101294669
I own an X140e (A4 APU). Just treat it as rugged 11" netbook with full sized ThinkPad keyboard and you'll be fine. I recommend you to get the intel one (E130/X131e) than the AMD one.
>compactness
The rugged model (rubber bezel, thicker chassis) really gives difference on size.
For bulkiness: X131e/X140e > X230 > E130/E145. It is a really rare occurrence that low-end E-series models get marketed as high end X-series (laptop for students)
>Availability
E130 has i5 as highest model. While X131e only i3 maximum. The i5 one is pretty much finding a needle in haystack at marketplace, while i3 are quite common. Both models are flooded with celeron shitters though. Same for AMD where A4 is hard to find, but you'll see plenty of E2
>Upgrades
You can put a m-SATA over the WWAN slot in the intel model, of course besides mobile broadband. The AMD model has the WWAN pin removed. WLAN is the old broadcom, not intel one; for such old machines, not worth the upgrade. Replacing the HDD with a 2.5' SSD is obvious.
>General build
Even the non-rugged model (E130/E145) are robust, even more than T/X series 4-5 years later despite using plastic. My X140e finally has it's rubber bezel brittle & chipping out after 8 year of daily use.

>>101308548
>x301
I wish, mine is only an X300. I have newer thinkpads but the keyboards just aren't as nice, but the X300 is a bit too slow to use as a daily driver.

>>101308871
Good info, thanks anon. What are the screens and keyboards like, from what I've read they're not very good, but I'm still interested in them because there isn't much else in the way of decent netbooks that I can find.

>>101309218
>mine is only an X300
doesnt matter, still the best
thinking about autistic modding x60 or x301 as my second computer to compliment my x230
i really like the smol cd rom

why is the 7730u thinkpad never mentioned in these threads? it's that the top of the line lowest watt laptop there is? you would think that all the poor 4chan indians would be all over that laptop since it's ultra cheap

>>101311031
i want coreboot

>>101311071
what does wanting coreboot have to do with the 7730u processor?

>>101311100
that i dont give a fuck about a 7730u

>>101311155
no one asked you, pedo

>>101311240
you did, thanks for compliment

>>101311274
so if the 7730u is bad what processor do you think is good?

>>101311300
thinkpad x230 with coreboot

>>101311435
>2 cores / 4 threads / 4gb ram with coreboot
>is better than
>8 cores / 16 threads / 40gb ram with coreboot
anon, serious question are you fucking retarded?

>>101311492
i said i want coreboot not meme cpus

>>101311589
>meme cpu
define meme cpu. is it just one that you, the faggot, doesn't like?

>>101311697
yeah

>>101311711
hahah you schizos are so mentally ill

>>101299861
Depends on what you're using it for. Thinkpads are, ultimately, business laptops. They're built to be sturdy and built in bulk, but lacking in premium media equipment such as speakers. Frameworks on the other hand have more cutting edge tech (depending a bit on your choices) and as much utility as you wish, but ultimately they're a boutique product, and you'll be paying boutique prices unless you're carefully finagling better deals on some of the internals. A t480 pre-fit with some midrange specs is at most a couple hundred dollars on ebay. A framework can easily beat that, but it'll cost much more.

Do you just want a tolerable laptop that you can tinker with if need be, and you don't want high end stuff? T480. Do you want modern internals with absolute modularity in the buying process, and have some money to burn? Framework.

>>101312137
Good summary. I'll take the t480. Can I buy it with all the upgrades (screen, new battery)? It seems like the ones on ebay need to be upgraded before their usable. I don't mind if it doesn't come with an ssd. I can do that ofc.

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What kind of stylus should I get for a Thinkpad T460 touchscreen, and is it even worth getting one? I couldn't find much information on how these touchscreens.

>tfw no vulkan drivers on my T470
sad

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Why haven't you taken the E495 pill yet?
>Ryzen 3000U series CPU
>Two DDR4 SO-DIMM slots
>Up to two drives, 1x 2.5" HDD + 1x M.2 2242/2280 SSD
>DP Alt Mode and other standard features from the T line of the same gen
>$150 used
this is what ThinkPads used to be all about, customization, good build quality and cheap business laptop

>>101314108
I am an idiot, i just had to install package

>>101314280
>That fat bottom bezel
Disgusting

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>ThinkPad L14 Gen 3
>Ryzen™ 5 PRO 5675U
If get to slap 32gb for now, is it good for in-field programming and a bunch of databases?

For the same price i get
>bunch of Ideapad w/ i5-1235U
>Acer shit
>Asus w/ 4800H
And i'm not sure if any of those are worth shit.

Was so close to placing an order for a T14g4 but it won't be delivered until September. Fuck that.

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>>101314280
Because I took the XPS 9300 pill
>1065G7
>DDR4X RAM
>unlimited drives that are faster than sata with thunderbolt
>top of its class 4k UHD+ 500 nit display
>functionally larger display than 14" 16:9 slop despite the much smaller footprint
>$150 used
This is what accepting change is all about, getting a superior product and enjoying technological advances. There's no point paying the memepad tax because a bunch of retarded luddites love how out of date they are.

>>101315209
>no TrackPoint

>>101315605
What's the usecase for TrackPoints?

>>101316502
Coping for lack of glass track pad and touch screen

>>101316536
Just use a mouse then

>>101316502
A mouse for simple (and accurate) move/clicking you don't have to move your fingers from the home row to use. Nobody's gaming with it, but for basic officeshit, web browsing, etc it's very convenient. I prefer it over a touchpad, but that was after forcing myself to use the trackpoint exclusively for a couple of weeks. Once it "clicked" I never went back. But it's not for everyone.

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>>101265027
Should I just buy a Framework laptop?

>>101315209
What's the keyboard like on these?

>>101310806
I'll be holding onto it for a long time for sure, I want to work on a minimalist LFS distro and use it as my offline machine - no wifi, no bluetooth, no internet distractions, just work with whatever is on the system and transfer files solely by USB. I just wish I could find a reasonably priced ultrabay battery for it.

I don't mind my A285, it's fine for most things, but if it was built like the X300 I'd be much happier with it.

>>101309218
current x140e owner here (a4-5000, 8gb ddr3-1600, Win 11 Pro, 480 SATA SSD)
Keyboard is good for the size. Curved design, decent feedback.
Touchpad is sort of garbage, but it has the nipple, so not a deal breaker.
The rubber wrap around bezel on mine is in good condition, no chipping or drying (could be humidity or lack of it making a difference).
Screen is slightly dim on mine, but for the size, it's pretty decent (1366x768, matte finish).
Battery life is excellent (full gaming load puts it at 4-5 hours, standard use it can go a full 8 hours with ease and push more toward 10 hours) and the biggest reason I use it as my take around laptop.
Wifi card is pretty weak, and due to lenovo and their blacklist of cards to put in it, it's been difficult to find a upgrade for it. The wifi card shares bluetooth and when BT is activated, it substantially lowers the speed of the wifi when doing downloads. Definitely the biggest weakness of this laptop.

It's good to see other users of this laptop. I've usually had others on these generals make fun of it, but I'd take this laptop over most any day of the week, due to it's size, durability, decent keyboard, and great battery life. IT can be a bit of a chonker, but the top is aluminum and bottom is a sturdy plastic.

>>101315209
*snaps your ```laptop''' in half*

How people can use 8GB ram with Windows in 2024 is beyond me. I find 16GB low.

>>101318877
Are you one of those ADHD zoomer who plays video game while watching youtube and browse 4chan at the same time?
I use 8GB RAM on my X220 and on my Gaming PC (R5 1600, RX580, Win10 IoT LTSC) and 8GB RAM is enough for me

>>101318972
>multitasking which operating systems have been designed to do since Multics is....le bad!

>>101317950
where can you get these for $150 used?

>>101277541
I can at least say that both my T60s (15" and 14") work correctly with Devuan, Gentoo, and FreeBSD (all X11). Is this maybe a libinput vs xinput problem? I set trackpad options with udev too. Maybe the crash is logged somewhere (.local/share/xorg, .xsession-errors, dmesg, or whatever systemd does...).
To be honest, I don't know, but I'll be happy to do some debugging. I know that even faulty hardware can work on Windows and be made to do so on Linux.

>>101314807
Yes, although you might regret not getting 8 core instead of 6 core. I would have paid a bit more for 4750u instead of 4650u for the 2 cores, 100mhz more boost and better IGP. It was like $50 more and I didn't realize how much I'd use my T14.

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>>101315209
actual 10 year old

>>101318331
What kind of gaming can you even do on it?
I'm getting more and more tempted because they're fairly cheap on ebay and I really miss having a netbook sized thing that doesn't take up too much space and has incredible battery life. If there was a 10" version I'd be all over it, but the true netbook sized Lenovo products all look kinda crap and lack the trackpoint, which is a deal breaker for me.

>>101320819
cute

>>101320819
/10!

>>101321108
720p Fortnite (low textures/med. draw distance DX 11) @30fps, Fallout 3/New Vegas @35fps. Good enough for some more casual games, but don't expect a gaming monster. One of the strengths of this laptop is the actual APU, which has a Radeon HD 8330. It would be nice if it was able to flex the graphics a bit more, but the CPU is the limiting factor (Quad Core @ 1.5ghz, no turbo). Great for emulation, use it for PS1/SNES emulation with no problems.
I actually picked up mine from eBay for $60 at least a year ago. I think for that price, you can't go wrong with the A4-5000 version. The E2-1800 I would steer clear from, due to it being dual core, older architecture, and being weaker than the A4.

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>>101321661
i want to hug her and pat her on the head

Hey guys,
I did a clean install of Windows 10 on Thinkpad T460. I'm only getting around 2-4 battery life with two 3-cell batteries. The batteries do have some wear, and I will probably get new ones at some point, but I feel like the battery life should still be better than that. I read about the power management drivers being a potential issue, so I downloaded the power management drivers from Lenovo and installed them but that didn't resolve the issue. Is there another driver that I need?

>>101324024
>i3-6100U
HOLY SLOW are you losers really this poor?

>>101324024
sorry only know linux stuff
you should boot into live linux and check capacity in /sys/class/power_supply/BAT*
and check power draw in powertop

>>101324373
Thanks for the reply. Capacity is around 70% for each battery, so maybe the batteries are just that far gone. Incidentally, I'll probably end up putting linux, or BSD, or Haiku on it.

>>101324147
It's actually an i5-6300U. I bought it for a family member so they wouldn't be so dependent on a smart phone, and they gave it back.

>>101265027
is thinkpad's fake aftermarket battery worth to buy?

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>>101325095
How did I do? I felt like I overpaid by $40 but it still has 3 weeks of warranty left. Is it worth upgrading that warranty for $70?

It's replacing a Elitebook 840 G3 with a i5-6300U, 8GB of RAM, Intel 520 Graphics, 1366x768 Display, and a 512gb SSD that I probably can't swap over cause this uses M2 2280 SSDs. Elitebook had 2 dead USB ports too main reason why I replaced it.

>>101325181
Whoops didn't mean to quote. But whatever

>>101325095
>It's actually an i5-6300U
that's also absurdly slow. do you live outside the US?

>>101325193
It's not too bad. My main machine is an I5-3230M and it still holds up okay for most of the things that I need to do with it.

>>101325181
>>101325192
Looks like a pretty decent deal to me if it's in good shape. Was that on eBay?
I have a computer with roughly the same specs as your old one. Any tips on optimizing it and keeping it useful?

>>101324373
>>101325095
Do you recommend any specific distribution or software utilities for Thinkpads specifically, or are they all about the same since the drivers are in the kernel?

>>101325478
a nice lightweight distro would be WattOS

>>101325478
>or are they all about the same since the drivers are in the kernel?
its all in the kernel

>>101325478
that's also absurdly slow. do you live outside the US?

>>101325812
It's not too bad with some tweaks. I live in the US.

>>101325757
>>101325567
Thanks. Still deciding which OS to go with. Might try hackintosh.

>>101269099
everything after t420 cant even be called a thinkpad

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>>101324147
>>101325193
>>101325812
zoomer tier kys

>>101326749
ignore the trolls

>>101325181
I envy you americans. Such machine in EU would go for 550EUR at least. Fuck my life.

>>101326064
>It's not too bad with some tweaks.
>Cores: 2 Threads: 4
>Clockspeed: 2.6 GHz
bruh, what year do you live in? what is your salary? i'm very curious how you can possibly think this is good. you do know there's cpus with 96 cores, and 4-5ghz right?

>>101327417
92 of these cores will be unused by 99% of people
if you don't buy for your use case - you are a mindless consumer

Do the bright spots/pressure points on the screen get worse? I just started having them on a T480 but I think this model is too old to fix it.

>>101327417
the only software that can use all cores are compilers
daily userspace is single core

>>101327584
bruuh, single core for that processor is insanely slow, are you kidding?

>>101327571
i replaced my screen on my x230 because of a white spot, so fucking annoying but it gave me excuse for fhd mod
i dont think they get worse but they will be there forever

Would you rather an i5-1345U or an i7-1370P in a laptop?

>>101327594
>bruuh
stop trolling or go back to pisscord
you are not welcome in this thread
dont speak to me or my thinkpad ever again

>>101265027
The thinkpad I have is a piece of junk. It's a T14 with an AMD CPU, and the build feels terrible while the hardware itself wasn't compatible with linux for like the first year. I had to run the nightly version of arch linux to get the latest kernels, and that was only an option because when I got it it was already ~9 months old. Further the trackpad is essentially useless, the mouse either jumps around the screen or it doesn't register at all.

Maybe the old ones were ok but there's better stuff now

>>101327745
>the mouse either jumps around the screen or it doesn't register at all.
let me guess, wayland?

>>101327709
>pisscord
you're a young indian male

>>101327756
>>101327745
looking to buy a laptop for programmin; jumping into this thread; seeing these replies; and i feel nauseous. why is everything such hell. please bros i just want a working fucking laptop

>>101322105
I got a measuring tape out and compared the X140 dimensions against my A285, turns out the X140 is a lot larger than I thought it would be with an 11.6" screen. I may just get a big USB-C power pack instead if I want all-day battery capability, but I'll have to remember the X140 in case my X230 ever dies, it still looks like a cool little laptop. I'm surprised it can run New Vegas or Fortnite, but AMD has always had strong IGPs.

>>101328072
Budget and required specs/features? The T480 is the meme laptop at the moment but it would help to be a bit more specific.

i got a new lenovo laptop and it only has two usb ports.
i usually use a wireless mouse with a usb dongle or a corded mouse. then ill have my iphone plugged into usb to transfer data
i need to transfer data to my external hard drive and i dont have enough usb ports.

wat are my options besides bluetooth mouse? is bluetooth mouse good?
are usb cord splitters a thing?

>>101328072
I'm in the same boat as you anon. Recently got a 10875H/T2000 for 320 bucks and gifted it to someone, now I'm kicking myself because all the good deals dissappeared while I wasn't looking. Next week is Strix Point release, I hope this causes some better sales.

>>101328072
thinkpad x230, new battery from kingsener on aliexpress

>>101328150
>are usb cord splitters a thing?
i guess if it has some sort of thunderbolt you could get fast speed hub with usb
no experience
link laptop model

>>101328150
Use a USB hub. There are tons of them out there and they should be dirt cheap

>>101328127
preferably $500. i want to do gaymen and machine learning (which would be remoting into a vps) the most would be preferably wanting to run helldivers 2 with my friends on a dual boot; cuz i want to use linux on it obviously. i would get a mac for the battery but obviously i cant do that (studying ML/AI) ; and a gaming laptop would be overkill and retarded i imagine from what i read.

>>101328213
>>101328263
are bluetooth mouses cheap and troublefree?
also im poorfag

considering the usb splitters
looks annoying but i remember i wont have to use it all the time

>12-13in 3:2 display
>upgradeable RAM and WiFi
>replaceable battery without needing to open the laptop
>DC barrel jack
>full size HDMI
>2 thunderbolt 4 ports
>3 usb 3.0 ports
>headset jack
>wifi and power switch
>ethernet jack
>full size SD card slot
>VGA output
>and full of SOVL
I found my dream laptop, and it's not a thinkpad.

>>101328127
>T480 is the meme laptop
It's been this way for 3 years now. When will it be dethroned.

>>101329303
T14g5 is the closest you'll get

>>101328860
If your laptop is newer and you dont buy a chingchong brand, bluetooth mice are fantastic. I even have a few that are hybrid and include a dongle inside for times where i'd prefer that.

>>101329244
wat laptop

>>101328860
>are bluetooth mouses cheap and troublefree?
dunno, i just use the trackpoint

>>101329323
I'm not telling because it's my secret. Use those hints and figure it out yourself.

>>101329346
Sounds like a frankendino PC with modded thunderbolt support

>>101329244
What is it. These specs are what i'm in the market for too.

>>101329244
Does it have a pointing stick?

If I wanted to buy the x13 Gen 4 should I get AMD or Intel?

The inter one is £300 more and for some reason the same option upgrades cost slightly more

>>101329313
>soldered everything basically
that's not very close...

>>101329699
It's the same as the T480 except the wifi card

>>101328072
if you want something that just work, just grab any model with a quadcore cpu, i would be more concern if i could find aftermarket battery/parts for them. usually t series are well supported, so t480/t490/s, x280/x390, p52/p53 if you need a dpgu
else if you find any recent t14/s/t16/p16 models for cheap can just grab them too

>>101329867
the thing is my current laptop is already comparable to these specs...ugh. why cant good laptops be cheap. oh yeah everything is fucking unoptimized so manufacturers compensate by accomodating for lazy devs who cant deliver optimized games amirite

This is probably the best place to ask, my friends selling me his basically brand new ideapad he never used since college gave him a macbook with an i5-13500h, rtx 3050, 16gb lpddr5 ram, 1tb ssd for $600. Good deal or am i getting ripped off

>>101330023
your only option would be something like a legion or rog stuff and not a thinkpad then

>>101330244
whats a good used model form those you listed?

>>101329836
slow

>>101329616
AMD is better efficiency and integrated graphics anyway, just go AMD

>>101330418
It's faster

>>101330713
your laptop is slow lol

>>101330731
I don't own a laptop

>>101330784
all your machines are slow you stupid poor fuck

been thinking about getting a thinkpad just need something I can code with and play runescape any recommendations?

>>101331897
preferably under 500 bucks

>>101330045
how much of a friend can he be if youre suspecting him of ripping you off?

>>101330971
Stop projecting you don't know shit

>>101331908
>>101331897
X230

>>101333243
this or a T420/430 if you want a bigger screen

>>101330971
slow machine flew over my house

Is the Lenovo L14 worse than the T480? Would you buy the T480 with a less powerful Intel cpu over a L14 with a more powerful AMD cpu? Price is almost similar, L14 costs a bit more but not by much

>>101319374
for 150 used i got a latitude 7300, no idea how you got a fucking xps

>>101335490
People are absolute lemmings in this general, that's why.

>>101336833
no kidding. it's the same retards asking about the worst fucking machines. machines with 4 cores? what year is this? is everyone in the thinkpad threads from india? i don't get it. how can people be THIS poor in the current year?

>>101336945
works on my machine

no kidding. it's the same retards asking about the worst fucking machines. machines with 4 cores? what year is this? is everyone in the thinkpad threads from india? i don't get it. how can people be THIS poor in the current year?

what thinkpard model would be good for older games like postal 2, doom, morrowind, and just older SNES games

>>101337031
Because all I do with my laptop is browse the web, fuck around in a DAW with a few tracks and use word processors; currently I'm using a Fujitsu with a i7 3540m from 11 years ago and it already does all that with no issues, but since it's old as hell I need a backup laptop just in case. So for me a Thinkpad with 4 cores would be a considerable upgrade, and no I'm not from India, I'm from Europe and I'm a minimalist, I don't like to consoom for the sake of it

>>101337031
works on my machine
>>101337050
x230

>be thinkpad thread
>indians who need to validate their purchases
>push cheapest shittiest machines as hard as possible
>these shit machines are good, goy
>use these garbage slow machines, goy
>totally not shit, goy

>>101337187
works on my machine

>keeps repeating "works on my machine"
>doesn't say what
>ignored all posts
>keeps pushing shit machines
>use the shit machines GOY
>totally not shit GOY
>indian

>>101337353
yes but you know, works on my machine

>>101337031
The old Thinkpads are built so well that I would kill a child before I have to upgrade to a new one. I still use a T601f with a core 2 duo T9300 and it works fine. The screen is (still!) better than any new screen because it is a 15" 4:3 IPS 1600x1200 panel. The keyboard is the best laptop keyboard you can get on a 64-bit laptop, hands down. The chassis is built like a brick and will last for years to come, even if I drop it multiple times.

You trade build quality for muh cores to run muh bloated winblows. You are spiritually Chinese. Kill yourself.

>>101337496
its some stray troll, dont argue with retards

>>101336945
Most of it is the fact this is /laptop general/ and you get non-technical morons in here asking "wut laptop is gud?" with no regard for use case. And then there are the absurdists that tell people a C2D machine will last then the rest of their lives.

>>101338335
exactly, this general is literally made and run by poor idiots, i'd like 4chan much better if the generals weren't run by morons. but the generals ARE all run by morons because it takes morons to run generals. no person with a life, family, job would run a general, it takes an extreme loser neet who is a total schizo with no real world reference of anything. so this all makes sense

>>101338892
works on my machine

>>101338892
YOU NEED TO CONSOOM LIKE ME, AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRGGGGHHH CONSOOOMMM ALREADY DAMN IT

>>101339072
>buying something higher quality than what i have is something called "CONSOOM"
you're poor and don't like things of higher quality

>>101339105
works on my machine

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Aspire with i7 12650H, Thinkpad l14 with 5675u or Galaxy Book2 with 1235u?
For heavy programming and multitasking™

Thinkpad is +$50 in my country but the Aspire and Galaxy look like cheap trash

>>101340043

i would say galaxy book2, 1235u is 15W and better single core than amd

Looking for a commute coding machine. Mostly webdev but on the "heavy" side: 3D graphics in browser, Node build systems, writing Rust for tools.
Do I need 8+ cores or are 6 enough?

Looking at these models:
>IdeaPad Slim - 8645HS - 16GB/1TB - $550
>Aspire 5 - 12650H - 16GB/1TB - $460
>Yoga 7 - 6600U - 16GB/512GB - $460
>HP 250 - 1355U - 16GB/512GB - $ 450
>Victus 16 - 7940HS - 32GB/1TB - RTX4070 - $1120

>>101338892
You really seem focused on the poorfag factor but I don't think that's it. It's people parroting "T480" for every single use case (or T420/X230). Most of the normies stopping in for a recco would be better served by Es, Ls, and Yogas, not modder/tinkerer's machines or older ones with an autistic feature set they don't want or need.

>>101342011
get the smallest and cheapest one

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Hej lads, I'm going to be travelling soon and I'm looking for something lightweight that's capable of handling photoshop, illustrator, premiere, and after effects.
I have no real criteria or brand loyalty beyond that, just lightweight and that usage.

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Bros...

>>101318002
>Push key
>Character appears on the screen
It's fantastic
>>101318844
>*Aluminum and carbon fiber construction snaps your wrists*
>>101335745
>find schools/businesses who like high end machines
>ask IT guys what they do with computers once they're out of support
>buy their lightly used 3 year old models for what models twice as old with much worse specs go for on eBay
I got a latty 7390 for $10 from my local university as well as a latty 5410 for $80 and a precision 3551 for $120. When half your revenue isn't going to eBay fees and dealing with scummy buyers, you can make more money selling local at lower prices.
You have to be willing to leave your mom's basement and talk to people so 99.9999% of /g/ can't get deals like I do.
>>101342287
>not modder/tinkerer's machines or older ones with an autistic feature set they don't want or need
The key is to convince yourself those autistic features are 100% necessary and that modern convenience isn't worth it.
>muh swappable battery
Obsolete with USB-C charging
>muh swappable RAM
Don't be poor and just buy one with how much RAM you want. I've never had any of the hundreds of ram modules I've used go bad
>Muh ports
Thunderbolt has made everything else obsolete

>>101342649
>Obsolete with USB-C charging
are you retarded?
holy shit KEK

There's a breed of laptops you thinktards don't know about. One that continues the thinkpad philosophy in 2024. You probably heard of them before but never gave it a second look. 2mm keyboard travel, tons of I/O, square like screens, removable batteries, etc. all with modern hardware. Have fun with your aging paperweights, kek.

>>101342664
>extra batteries can be as large or little as you want
>extra batteries can be used for any laptop or phone
>external battery can be recelled trivially after degradation
>external batteries are available in person at any store
>USB battery doesn't rely on a laptop to be charged
Are you? I have a T420 that's completely batterymaxxed with the 9 cell main, slice battery, and ultra bay battery and I still prefer my newer laptops with integrated batteries. There's also the fact that I can't think of anywhere I'd possibly want to bring a laptop that I wouldn't have the ability to charge it

Any x230 users here? How do you like it? How's linux support?

>>101327309
can always reship and import anon if you don't mind the keyboard being ANSi

>>101343028
hot swappable battery is important because realistically it will be only thing you will be replacing after years of use, having it outside means you dont have to open up the laptop
>usb c somehow lets you use power banks
then we get usb d and all usb c laptops will be obsolete!
you realize its just datalines? you can put usb c into your old thinkpad, you have convert usb c into barrel charger etc

My stock touchpad is shedding on my T480. Can someone rec me a replacement

>>101343525
what does the cat compute?

>>101343535
T14g5

>>101343628
a replacement trackpad. Why would i replace my entire laptop because of a bad trackpad? And why would I get an inferior laptop?

>>101343575
files, mostly

>>101343535
you can get a glass trackpad i think?

>>101343091
It's good. Linux support is great, everything works. The only thing I've had some finicky issues with is the stock Bluetooth module, but from what I was reading lots of people were having BT issues for a while. I'm on Debian so I probably got the fix later than others but it's fine now.

>>101343228
>I'm too dainty to own a screwdriver
>My busy schedule of shitting and masturbating is so rigid I can't spare 30 minutes to swap a battery every 5 years

>>101343091
Don't buy that piece of shit. There's other 12in screen class laptops with newer hardware.

>>101343729
Oh. You should replace it with a T480 trackpad. With your exceedingly stupid question answered, I will now close the ticket.

>>101344441
What's funny is you can get a Lenovo C13 Chromebook that is essentially the same size and cpu performance as an X230. A lot of Lenovo's modern 13.3" models are damn close in size with smaller bezels and higher res screens.

>>101344537
>chromeshit
Holy shit, look at the bigger picture. Expand your worldview, and you'll find that small/powerful machines are still popular elseware.

>>101343091
I love mine: >>101289528
Devuan works out of the box for all the hardware side of things, Hibernate was the only thing I had to fiddle with to get working (which systemd distros have disabled because of retardation). It's fast, it's stable, the battery life is decent with the 6-cell pack, it's just a very comfy laptop and I don't think I'll ever get rid of it.

I want to sell my maxed modded out T480.
>i7-8650U
>BOE 500knit screen
>64GB Kingston RAM
>2TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus
>512GB WD SN520
>Intel AX210 WiFi 6E card
>glass TouchPad
>96wh kingsener batteries
>honeywell graphite thermal pad
>dual heatpipe heatsink
>magnesium cover
I want to ask $800 for it.

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th-thinkbros...

>>101344855
It was meant to be amusing. I was just noting that a 3 year old Chromebook now has the same computing power (and far better integrated GPU) as the formerly "powerful" i7 X230. When people recommend these old models, they should realize modern Chromebooks are basically on par or better in some respects.

>>101345555
delicious e-waste

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>>101345555
>single channel RAM

>>101345334
$450 at most, and it won't sell fast

>>101345334
LMAO thinkpadfags are cheapskates. More than 300$? Hard pass.
You NEVER spend $$$ for upgrades/repairs, otherwise you only lose money.

>>101346419
What's the point of a thinkpad then? I guess I'll just save up for a new computer. I found something that is everything I wanted in a modern laptopz, but it's a bit pricey.

>>101346438
Modern Thinkpads are garbage, they're the exact same soulless consumer slop every other company is putting out these days. There is nothing left that is "thinkpad" about them, you might as well buy whatever brand is cheapest. Old IBM Thinkpads actually had good functionality and soul.

>>101346449
I am getting away thinkpads. They are indistinguishable from every other major brand nowadays.

>>101346449
To add there are modern laptops that are more thinkpad than modern thinkpads and that's what I'm saving up for.

>>101346459
>>101346466
Good choice, I personally have no interest in any ThinkPad newer than the T42. Those machines are rock solid and great for running lightweight Linux installs and older Windows versions.

>>101346438
Going for vintage looks, you become the guy who casually drives a well-maintained 60s' Dodge.
I am in late 20s and doing a boomer act, so a T420 suits well my aesthetics.

>>101336945
>how can people be THIS poor in the current year?
Economy has been in the shitter since the pandemic, what do you expect?

>>101346438
Simply put, Thinkpads have a large cult/community built around them. Parts are readily available for most models, linux just werks on them, and they've got solid build quality if you go for the better models (which are cheap now because businesses sell them off for pennies). If you're not using it for heavy tasks like 3D rendering or AAA gaming, an older Thinkpad is still a great workhorse.

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Are the chassis parts and screen of an X300 and X301 interchangeable? I'm tempted to pick up a cheap X301 and use the good bits off my X300 to fix it up, especially since the SU9400 can be modded to run considerably faster.

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>>101349084
>>101349084
>>101349084