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Sino-sama, how is this going to improve my listening experience?

>>101285859
Redeem Noble Audio HaNaTaN pos, listen to her songs with it and throw faux-weeb chink trash away

https://www.linsoul.com/products/tangzu-waner-s-g-studio-edition
Chang where's the graph??

>>101286280
>$2 increase
it's over

good deal on the SIMGOT SuperMix 4 when?

>>101288002
Black Friday/ 11/11 sales

How long should my cables be lasting me? I got a tripowin zonie in feb and it's cutting out on me already

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>>101283960
Embrace Harman tuning with Revel Performa F206.

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>>101288002
It failed, they gave up on it.

>>101283960
Where tf is wan’er studio edition already?
does it even exist?

>>101288002
never, the sm4 sells and distributors know it

>>101289155
>>101289412
who's telling the truth?

>>101289412 (me)
>>101289700
my friend is a distributor, the SM4 received the most pre-orders and is his best selling iem this year

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Ignore earbud graphs, they are a conspiracy theory against earbuds by the IEM cartel! buy a NiceHck YDX, press play. Simply as.

>>101289138
true

>>101289138
buddy you dont have the same room as harman

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>Tangzu Wan'er S.G
>chu2
>gate
>zero2
what is THE definite $20 pos

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>this is "poor" according to asr

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Thank you for these 4 happy years of marriage Asano Tanch.

>>101290212
Pick the one with aesthetics appealing to you, also consider durability (chu 2 disqualified).

>>101290264
they all look like shit but after seeing the gaping hole in gate's FR i gues it's either wanker or zero2

>>101290315
>still looking at graphs above 5khz
retard.

First for KZ

Proper seal on my Zero 2's hurts my ears from the sharp edges. What do? Chu IIs?

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remember when niggas used this ufo looking mf? lol couldn't be me

>>101290822
back in my day it was goated

Anyone actually curious about the Galaxy Buds 3? I am and I hate it.

Beat tips for Moondrop Kato?
Thoughts on the Spinfit W1 L size?
Steel nozzle filter broke on right side, sound is smaller then left size, what do?

>>101290212
what does pos stand for?

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>>101290822
lol, I would never, lmao even.

>>101290871
Philter of Strength (Asano Tanch bathwater)

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wat? oh how far the mighty have fallen.

Any recommendations for tips for the Truthear Hexa? The nozzle is thicker than regular IEMs.

>>101290228
Yeah I'm not sure why he thinks it's ok to review a broken unit. 60dB SNR at 50mV is bad though. I strongly suspect all dongles that size have the same problem.

>>101291293
Most tips will fit just fine. Worry more about the fitment inside your ear: do you have a bigger or smaller canal.... Shit like that matters the most.

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Weirdly intrigued by some no name AliExpress pos

>>101291655
that's just a bootleg solis ii

>>101291655
There are plenty in where they didn't even bother to translate the images at the bottom.

>>101291244
I bought my Gate in amazon for this reason. It's fucking over.

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Probably comes recommended but I just wanna check, what are the impressions on the HiBy R3 II? Haven't really fucked with modern DAPs and I was originally gonna just mod an iPod Mini or 4th gen with Rockbox, but I figured it'd just be overall better to go with the R3.
Also what are some recommendations for IEMs to go along with it that specifically have a cute girl on the box? I don't even actually need to have that restriction if there's a better rec you have in mind, but I'm a sucker for the novelty. I previously had a pair of KZ ZSN Pro Xs and they were fine but one of the buds broke

>>101291809
Yeah, you gotta look around.
About a month ago, I ordered a set of W1 in S size off AE and paid something like $18. I like them a lot but wondered if the SS size would fit me even better. So I got it off Amazon. I'll try them tomorrow.

I really like eartips that come in S and SS sizes. My ear canal is fairly narrow.

>>101289138
I have better for my non-ear damaging listening preferences. Revel is heinously overpriced next to Neumann and Genelec. Any company that Jews you like that is NOT being completely honest about their science department.

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i bought into the hype a while ago. is there anything i could even sidegrade to that would be worth the $369usd i paid for performer8? open to diff sound signatures, ive been on neutral-leaning devices for long enough.

>>101292237
learn EQ

Daily reminder that techs come from. driver flex

>>101292237
>$369usd
kek

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>>101288916
>How long should my cables be lasting me?
Depends on environment and abuse. Some can last forever.

>>101290597
>Zero 2's hurts my ears from the sharp edges
Kefine Delci

>>101290867
>tips for Moondrop Kato?
Try some out, there is no singular universal best. See rentry for names.
>Thoughts on the Spinfit W1 L size?
They are Spinfits in L size. They work fine on some IEMs, but are not my first pick for others.
>Steel nozzle filter broke on right side
They sell replacements.

>>101291894
>what are the impressions on the HiBy R3 II?
It's a player and it does the job. FYI I see a $30 off coupon on Amazon.
>specifically have a cute girl on the box?
Truthear Gate

>>101292237
>is there anything i could even sidegrade
Yes there are dozens. Look at rentry, pick one.

>>101291655
Greetings from across the Causeway, my Malaysian friend.

>when you realize you're posting with a bunch of seanigs

>>101293111
ruined, see you poorfags on the flip side

where the fuck are the squigs from the wanker SE

You buy iems to listen to music.
I buy iems to listen to audio test videos on YT.
we are not the same.

wankers sex edition

>>101293111
How haven't you realized this sooner?
Everyone in this thread only cares about how cheap you can find chi-fi crap on aliexpress to deliver to your third world country for $3.
Anything over $20 is laughed at and declared as no different to equipment more expensive because $20 is the max that anyone here can afford to spend between paychecks.

>>101290212
Out of these 4 which one has the best build quality and is more likely to last longer?

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>>101290228
SINAD is a completely meaningless number. You can have 110dB SINAD that hisses and 40dB SINAD that is completely transparent. This is the important metric.

>>101293373
You buy iems?

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I love the sound of my Gatos but switching back from my old beaters and the Gatos, I keep preferring the comfort on the former.

>>101293787
EQ your old pos then. Comfort > looks > stock sound quality.

Which would be better for hip hop/rap, F1 Pro or EA500LM?

>>101293500
What does this mean

>>101292396
>im poor

>>101294497
Noise at low volume.

>>101294159
f1 looks good for hip hop, 500lm is for people who hate black people

>>101294769
bro they made an iem for me??????

I want an iem that sounds like an flathead earbud. any recs?

>>101295044
ea500lm

>>101295044
just take the eartips off

>>101286211
it's Nostalgia Audio, not Noble and totally not noble

>>101293787
gatos are already small and comfortable as fuck, what even is your previous pos?

>>101289155
it's because it's just like Hola was back in the day, too advanced and too expensive to manufacture for its price, so it'll probably disappear and never show again, unless Simgot figure something out to manufacture it for cheap the seemingly impossible way just like they did with the LM and its space-grade DD

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I bought it

>>101295422
what the FUCK is that princess keyboard nigger

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>>101295442
The best keyboard

>>101290867
>Thoughts on the Spinfit W1
the current-gen spinshits, considerably different from older models like CP100 for example, designed from ground-up with the only common element being the swiveling neck which is also an acoustic element so there are similarities in how they sound, but the new W1/Omni/SuperFine spinshits are thinner, softer, more tacky and grippy, so they can create a good seal and remain in your ear canal even if you use big pos and have sweaty/waxy ear canals, so I think they're designed very well, but on the other hand...
>L size
this is where you should get absolutely sure what size is the best for you as they are very size-sensitive, pick one size too large and the fit will be awful, the thin silicone will wrinkle and break the seal easier than in thicker tips, they're fine-made and supposed to be fine-matched with your ear
what I can advise is to pick one size smaller than you normally use, for example ML if you use L tips, because W1s are supposed to go deep into your canal and canals are tapered, this would be your start point and depending on how good the seal is and if it breaks if pushing your pos deeper, you may want to get even smaller ones (in this case M)

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best portable amp/dac than can daily drive a moondrop para (or any other planar headphones)? if it lets me reach near dangerous levels that will make me deaf in a future even better.
>inb4 nigger, this is not /hpg/
i already have a fiio ka1 but im sure that its weak af for it.

>>101295946
fiio ka11

>>101283960
is op picrel legit scientific or just schizo theorization? i cant even tell

>>101290867
>Kato
Katochuds lost years ago, anon...

>>101295422
>>101295461
why are you in your niece's room?

>>101296421
To listen to Gutalax

Truthear won me over
I'm enjoying Gate so much that I already decided I'm ordering Hexa on 11.11

might redeem gate

>>101295422
how does this shit even work these days? where do you get music for this? is limewire still a thing?

>>101290822
it actually fit well and sounded decent tho.

>>101293500
Yeah but at least get the number over 70 so it looks like you're following through on your own design. 50mV is pretty goddamn loud on a lot of iems.

>>101296976
nice bait

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>BTFOs everything under $30
heh, nothing personell

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>>101297071
mogs you for less and more comfortable shell

>>101297095
Kill yourself tyvan.

>>101296976
>what's a computer?

>>101297071
sorry kid, kinera abyss is the new king of <$30 pos

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>>101297132
YIKES

>>101297144
oof, yikes sweaty.

>>101297144
its over

>>101297144
oh noes, unreliable upper treble.......

>>101297170
>>101297165
>>101297149
>t. wooden ears

why do all reviewers have disgusting chewed up nails
dont they feel self conscious ?

>>101297174
If some IEM sounds like this to you then you have metal tube ears.

>>101297127
you mean like the one i used to download and install limewire that enabled me to download virtually any song i wanted? you mean a device like that, retard? so how do you faggots do it today?

>>101297221
How retarded are you?
If I want to support the artist
>buy the album on Bandcamp
>download the album
If I don't care:
>search the album on redacted
>download the album

>>101297071
I very much prefer my gato over these even though the zero 2 are more comfortable to me for some reason.

>>101297273
>not just extracting discographies from streaming services

>>101297221
Since im not a fag like the other anons, these days you use soulseek (or nicotine+), if you want higher resolutions (above 16bit FLAC) you go to rutracker.

Soulseek is basically modern day limewire but without malware.

>>101297298
deemix is also very good still

>>101297331
I used freezer back in the day but I don't think it's still around

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Are there any 6.5 mm cables for iems? I refuse to use puny 3.5 connector and 4.4 mm ones aren't cutting it anymore. I want to feel a thick and hard 6.5 connector. I want my dac to be as ravaged as my earholes.

>>101297298
>>101297331
interesting. if they still have napsteresque software out there I might actually have to get a device. haven't had an mp3 player since 2nd gen ipod. those were the days

>>101297473
how are you on /g/ but don't know about downloading music?

>>101297427
are you retarded? 3.5 to 6.5mm adapters are everywhere, slap one on your cable.

Or stop being a cuck and get a 4.4 balanced connector.

>>101295973
will a btr15 work too? tempted cuz has a battery, balanced port and is not bulky

>>101297487
idk, same reason i just bought a prebuilt from best buy. i'm an old lazy retard who is out of touch. last time i pieced a pc together was over 20 years ago and my dad helped me kek. things were a lot different back then and everything seems so gay and overwhelming these days.

>>101297109
>15%
>>101297370
use murglar my nigga shit works for various other platforms too. also, convert spotify playlists to deezer for easier downloading.

>>101297095
I think at least the aesthetics of the left one are OK, cant speak of the quality tho

>>101297095
CCA Trio has strongly fucked up channel balance. Even KZ EDX Lite is better in this regard.

>>101297144
Every iem have some deviation in this region, easy fix with eq

>>101297534
Should be enough, yes

>>101298309
Post in-room measurements.

>>101298159
yay, thank u

>pos stuck in customs for 4 days
It's over for me.

>>101298523
what is pos?

>>101298577
precipice of serenity

>>101298577
pedantically obsessed soundphiles

>>101293417
it is the universal poorfag cope by rationalizing that price-to-performance is the only metric which matters: /pcbg/, /spg/, /hpg/ are like this as well

>>101298577
aids positive

>>101299014
hearing aids?

>>101298921
you get actual, measureable benefits from buying more expensive hardware. smartphones are either iphone or poordroid. audio has such insane diminishing returns that it's not even worth it especially given how lossy human hearing itself is. 10 years ago zero:2 would have been over $800 easily

Any noteworthy bullet iems under 40 yurobucks?
i've been using wire-over-ear daily for years now but i want to switch to something more compact.
Tanchjim ONE and Tanya seem insteresting

>>101299242
why are you regressing?

>>101283960
If you had to choose an option would you rather:
A: You can only buy budget iems but they will never break;
Or
B: Have only 1 hi-fi iem of your choosing but it'll only last you 2-3 years;

>>101299275
>i want to switch to something more compact

>>101299300
can i keep rebuying a different iem every 2 or 3 years

>>101299300
>Hurr durr, iph you hadz to chooze ...

B is the reality and we already do this. The collection in storage is another matter. A is some kind of pipe dream since they break more easily.

>>101299347
Yes but only 1 and it has to be above 500$.

>>101299346
I don't get it

>>101299106
>10 years ago zero:2 would have been over $800 easily
not $800 because Viento was already there for $1k and it's TOTL even today, but I'd say zero:2 would have been $500

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*Thieaudio Prestige LTD*


https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=f9TdYDwHeDE&si=lZiaOP6AvDOat5wR [Open]

Reconnect with the cosmos.
You are an alchemist, a star child. Unlock your latent powers and travel back to save the universe from the (2012 CERN incident)

>>101299669
free shilling out of habit after having all contracts terminated must feel strange

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>>101295369
JBL Endurance runs which were even smaller.

are gatos smaller than wankers?

>>101297144
graphiggers don't listen to music and just watch useless graphs all day

>>101300036
yes. It’s smaller by a little bit.

>>101299680
Did you placed a order for the Prestige LTD?

>>101300129
>t. eqlet

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>eq'd my wankers to $2k pos

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My Endgame arrived a while ago, bretty gut for 15 buckarinos

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Is it just me or does amazon actively avoid displaying the cartoon child in the packages of chink iems?

>>101300129
>i dont agree with you therefore <ad hominem>
dont bother replying next time monkey youre a fucking troglodyte and deaf

>>101300545
anyone think that its actually weirder to point it out? its just an anime wallpaper bro

Any cables longer than 1.2 m? I know the nova come with a 1.4 m cable, but I can't seem to find cables that long anywhere else.

>>101300545
>Just a drawing of a girl in a uniform listening to music
>WTF a child help!
Do these people not notice that they are the ones that make it weird?

wiki does not have wireless headphones
need 1 for under 100 and another over 100

>>101300632
Kbear ST16 Plus is 2 meters.
Pretty good cable overall. Basicly a 2m version of the Zonie with some nice colours.

>>101300309
>did you placed
yes sir i done the needful, I even buyed the Prestige LTD personally in your store in India

>>101300558
>graphiggers acting like desperate monkeys

Tutorial on how to enjoy music:
-connect your IEMs or headphones to your device
-open your prefered music player
-select the album or song that you want to listen to
-enjoy

Thank me later redditor

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>>101300543
hmmm....

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>>101300652
there's an absolutely atrocious trend nowadays that neotenous anime girls are considered pedophilia and their enjoyers are condemned as monsters, while actual childraping is more acceptable and many of those who get butthurt over drawn anime girls are actual pedos with history of raping or at least molesting children

>>101300737
kill yourself nigger monkey

>>101300737
You're not allowed to enjoy music if you haven't clocked in at least 1000 hours into EQ.

>>101300748
I use the narrow bore tip which makes it sound really warm, also smoothens out the upper mids and treble. Pretty happy with how they sound for the price I got em

>>101297144
who's going to tell this guy about the accuracy of toy-grade hobby couplers after 8k?
>every tip measures differently and fluctuates in this region as well

>>101300789
>Many of those who get butthurt over drawn anime girls are actual pedos
Like that Vaush nigga that held that opinion of Loli being for pedos, and then accidentally opening up his own Loli folder on stream lmao.

>>101300997
wonder what secrets linus is hiding in his hard drives...

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>>101300869
yes, they are honestly very nice graph-wise. continue hitting play my brother.

>>101301194
based *squeak*pilled

>>101300789
the worst thing is that they'll say you're a pedo when you say you like 14+ girls but the fags calling you out like actual children

Are Kiwi Ears Melody any good? They have a larger planar driver than my F1 Pro and they have a $15 off coupon on Amazon right now.

>>101300129
We only listen to real music
https://soundcloud.com/donkeycumcollective/explorers-of-the-internet-oggy-en-de-kankerlakken

>>101302085
Anyone? I'm about to pull the trigger on them cause I don't think they can be beat at the price.

>>101300737
People who listen to entire albums are weird.

>>101302143
disgusting, here's real music

https://youtu.be/68xqp5obojQ?si=kU9dEQqMaCKYu5oC

>>101302143
I also love dubstep

flatpos are simply the best option for any non-music listening

>>101302085
>>101302193
melody is a smaller driver. most impressions of smaller planars is that they lack the "planar techs," and especially so for one like the melody, which is tuned a fairly heavy v-shape with quite a bit of midbass bleed. basically, meh, your f1 pro beats it out, just eq or enjoy as is. the melody is inferior.

Reminder that only the center of a planar is moving so a 14mm planar is at best equivalent to an 8mm DD. This is how they achieve impressive treble extension but their subbass is trash.

>>101299834
Nevermind, I guess the wide bores were just not for me on Gates since using the small narrows make them a lot more comfortable. Still don't get a dip at ~10khz though, in fact, there's a fat peak there. And no, I didn't shove the pos as far as I could into the coupler.

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>>101303558
Forgot the graph

>>101303174
what do you earn by being this much of a dumb fuck on the internet

It must be nice being able to hear 20khz. Soon, 19khz will go dark for me. It feels as if I were going blind. Take good care of your hearing, anons.

>>101303894
lol you'd probably kill yourself with tinnitus if you're complaining about losing 19khz, are you a teenager? no need to lie with current 4chan rules lil bro

Why does 2V output matter for iems

>>101303558
>>101303570
measurements pst 8khz are tricky. it’s all dependent on your own HRTF. For instance I have a peak around 7khz so subsequently around 9-10khz the gate dips slightly by comparison.
but yes I do think that dip at 10khz was intentional. Nuo doesn’t have a gap and it’s way too much damn energy. Measures better, performs worse.

>>101304413
for me? it's 4V and at least 2W for superior macrodynamics, headroom, and soundstage

im at 22 and can hear upto 17k
i remember hearing upto 18 when i was 16 (???)

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1dd wins again

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fiio loses again
graymousetrannies how do we cope?

>>101304512
your reasoning is confusing and probably wrong
>>101304904
pretty normal
>>101304981
>2khz ear gain
oh

>>101293417
>>101298921
>>101299106
Even people that make decent money in the first world would be cost averse to spending $250+ just to try new headphones. With chi fi you can try 10 different pairs for that, and at the end of the day all that matters is what sounds good to you personally, not what you paid. I admire these iem addicts because they actually can form their own opinions versus the average headphone buyer that blows hundreds in one go and hopes the youtuber didn’t lie to them and has the exact same ears they do.

>>101304981
it's comfy, sounds good, and doesnt suffer from shit qc. just get some good tips and hit play. it's become my favorite pos for classical music and rock, give it a hefty bass boost and it's a head-thumper.

Reminder that in terms of audio performance, I have yet to see one convincing argument for why something more expensive will be better apart from anecdotal recountings.

>>101305349
Price is absolutely not correlated with performance and it's because the average audiophile is retarded and easily tricked.

To the fuckers in MRS' discunt server, have a wonderful morning/afternoon/night.

>>101305390
>audioph*le d*scord server
couldn't be me senpai

>>101304924
I mean, even Simgot LM is more technical than the hexa. I feel like the Alba romani niggers are trying to trick me with DSP. I'd like to hear it, but I'm not going to buy it. I doubt they made a better DD than the LM for just $150.

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man I've had the simgot EM10s for 3 days now (the most I've spent before were for the ew200s) and I don't think this shit is worth it. I had a retarded belief that this shit is gonna make me enjoy my music more but nope, for sure it did sound better but it didn't make me feel any more different to the music I already like.

Also after having the $500 POS I now agree with the notion I've heard before that the FR graph matters more than anything else; which I couldn't fathom when my scrub ass only had budget shit. Thankfully I can send them back and I'll stick to cheaper shit from now on

>>101305574
>didn't even burn them in for 10 days
fucking retard

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abyss arrived. i like it. good change to add a bit more bass. i already liked the unique looks of OG, abyss looks even cooler.

>>101305582
show side profile comparisons pretty please and show tech window dac pairing too please

>>101305574
>he correlated price with performance
>he overlooked severe diminishing returns
>he bought expensive pos without demoing
>he bought harmeme pos
>he probably isn't even a trained listener
many such cases

>>101305592
night time rn my room lighting isn't ideal, busy enjoying music. maybe i'll do comparison pics later. i love the fit of wyvern despite it looking like a modestly large shell. slots deep in my earussy and doesn't feel like anything.

>>101305574
my nigga. I’m basically done after gate. The POS aligns with my HRTF. Only a very minimal dip at 10khz and the rest is smooth sailing. It’s over bros. No more need to consoom.

>>101305642
>it's over
>still posting
you have not achieved nirvana gatenon...

>>101305642
not with that build quality

>>101305650
I’m autistic.
>>101305669
we’ll see how long they last I guess

>>101304924
>Hexa
>anemic, tinny, and unpleasing
Maybe stop listening to anemic, tinny, and unpleasing sounding music.
Also this >>101304234

>>101305574
and btw just to break down the audiofool elements of why em10 is pretty pos
>8mm DD, small size = lesser authority and depth. few companies can squeeze out ideal performance from smaller DDs
>Bellsing BAs. no-name "customized" = bellshit. you want Sonion mids. highs matter less as it's usually Knowles SFWK (33518) which Bellsing has good equivalent copies of. most of the Bellsing mids BA models used are not as good as the legendary Sonion 23xx series which have great euphonics characteristics to present authentic and emotional vocals
>implementation of the PZT is to "cut down" on the special sauce of what makes PZT flavor different. so basically it's a minimal factor in the simgots using the back-shell PZT design

>>101305697
>bullshit explanations
just say that it's a generic harman pos with a chunky shell bro, no one's reading your audiotard explanations

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>>101299669
music sounds so good through my pos bros
running hype 4s through a qudelix 5k and my streaming service now runs lossless, so good bros, better than my headphones in many ways
https://youtu.be/kwj6sIQlqmY?si=XlnIhLBkxifikxT_
i love the pos but should i have gotten the variations? theyre supposedly better in some ways

>>101305702
>should i have gotten the variations?
nope. dodged a bullet.

>>101305702
>i love the pos but should i have gotten the variations?
Beautiful representation of the average mind that has been conditioned by consumerism, the "hobby journey", and the lack of desire to truly understand a topic.

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>>101305701
>he's never heard Sonion(tm) 23xx mids

>>101305717
Nta but what book should I read to understand iems more.

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>>101305669
if you buy literally 10 of them you'll just spend what the average retardophile spends on a single pos and you'll have endgame for the next 10-20 years at least, assuming that they all break in a year or two

How is isolation of bullet pos compared to normal pos? Many bullets seem to be sealed, so I thought maybe they isolate better?

>>101305761
If you only have time to read one book, then Sound Reproduction by Floyd Toole is considered to be an excellent one that covers many topics in acoustics/psychoacoustics, from blind testing to preference research and more while not being too dense or complicated. A fourth edition is going to come out in 2025, with a rewritten (?) headphone chapter by Sean Olive.
Something that is a much easier read would be Ethan Winer's The Audio Expert book that is very basic, but approaches audio in a very informal and casual manner.
There are also more math/eng focused books on electroacoustics, but these aren't very relevant to what is being discussed in the hobby. The focus is primarily on psychoacoustics and very basic mechanical and electrical eng concepts that you can learn anywhere.
Most of the important knowledge is in forms of studies that are often locked behind AES/JAES subscriptions, although most of the important ones are in a mega folder somewhere.

>>101305809
no. they are worse. they cover less of your ear surface, and are typically made of thinner materials with more air gaps (less parts per square mm filled with material).

>>101305809
>Many bullets seem to be sealed
also fyi this isn't true. most have vents, just small ones and located in places that are less visible at a glance.

>>101305717
grow up

weird harman hate itt
is it just contrarianism?

>>101305872
yes

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>Harman target

>>101305872
>4chink
>is it just contrarianism?
bro...

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>harman bad because its being marketed or something
lol get a grip

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>weird harman hate itt
>is it just contrarianism?

>>101305872
harminge sucks ass. this has been known for years now and has become more concrete at the very least thanks to the fucking morons at headpos show and that pedo listener cuck. they suck dick too but w/e at least they challenge that old fart pathetic excuse for a scientist olive with their own big words bs. just takes listening to various sound signatures to recognize how irrefutably unnatural harman2019v2 sounds.

>>101305818
I was looking for something to listen to in noisy environments like a train, because I feel like IEMs do not isolate enough. I guess I will try Etymotics sooner or later.
>>101305835
I was looking at Moondrop Quarks and I think they stated they were sealed, so I thought bullets are sealed in general, good to know.

>>101305872
partially. But also Harman absolutely borked their “research” on in ears and in general harmanfags are some of the most insufferable, cancerous and delusional people you will ever meet(take sharur for instance)
Harman OE 2018 is a good target for mids and treble, ironically better than ie 2019.

>>101305872
Subjective opinions have no place in science.
The entire premise of the Harman target is severely flawed.

I'm considering buying my first IEM, but I have no idea what kind of sound I want. I was using Wavelet to autoeq my Galaxy Buds2 to some of the recommended IEMs. Is this good enough to get a general idea of how they sound like?

>>101306037
yep

>>101306037
>general idea
>autoeq
i mean... more like rough approximation, emphasis on the rough. not to shit on you trying via your method, but it was basically a futile exercise that resulted in flawed conclusions if any. order shit from amazon, (ab)use return policy. or if you're happy with your pick, awesome, hit play and enjoy well done.

>>101306037
this whole thing is pseud bullshit. just go with normal stuff and you will be happy enough with the quality. and you will be much happier not wasting your time and energy circle jerking with this loli tranime faggots

>>101306077
>order shit from amazon, (ab)use return policy
I wish I could do that, but Amazon doesn't even ship to this shithole.

>>101306163
you VILL go with normal stuff
and you VILL be happy

>>101306173
to other anon's point it's pretty w/e man. buds2 are unironically decent (assuming you're using on a samsung phone). don't overspend, get some pos that doesn't look too retarded, enjoy em.

>>101305816
>Most of the important knowledge is in forms of studies that are often locked behind AES/JAES subscriptions
paywalling educational texs should be a crime

>>101303636
Learn how this shit actually works.

>>101306173
get the wankers or gato from alix to test out the waters

#abyssgang
fuck gayto and wankies

>>101305872
You've got two camps.
Completely deaf people that hate bass and people that think it has too much 5kHz, which has some objective backing. OE target was developed on a rig with a custom pinna and IE target was derived from it, of course the shape is going to be wrong in the pinna region.

>>101306176
my 10 year old standard apple earbuds sound just as good or better than the shit you faggots shilled on me. for a fraction of the price

>>101305929
There are no objective IEM measurements so subjective adjustments to available measurements are required.

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>you must be deaf if you hate excessive bass

>>101306407
you are deaf congratulations

flush 2 pin is a joke

>>101306387
>people that hate bass
no, i love bass and hate harman. because harman has a shit balance of sub bass dominating over sucked out mid bass.

>>101305897
>headpos show
>make up DF + tilt bullshit meme
>get btfo in blind tests
>immediately rebrand to jm1 as if it doesn't have the exact same problem
Anything with mudbass is doomed in blind tests, use soundguys target if sean olive lives rent free in your head, it scores equally as well.

>>101306661
>using targets
yeahno i'm chillin

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>>101306666
Bing chilling I presume.

think less listen more = low IQ
where sound meets truth = high IQ

>>101305574
I don't buy it. You're probably just too retarded to enjoy technicalities. Many such cases, but know yourself and be satisfied with EW200.

>>101305574
>FR graph matters more than anything else
No, comfort > looks > FR. You'll be eqing your pos anyway if you care about sound quality. Also unless you're using a verified dongle there's a chance you don't even get the intended FR out of your em10s.

>>101306779
you're a consoomer who is experiencing placebo because your tard brain is protecting your fragile ego from realizing that you're a sucker

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rate target

>>101306877
What hearing aids did you rip it from.

>>101306887
its a target from the future
present day humans cant yet comprehend its glory

>>101306877
>massive tech dip
bretygud

>>101306901
What if it's not made for humans.

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Anyone listen to Post-Hardcore or Post-Rock? What are some good obscure bands to pay attention to?

>>101292543
Ended up biting the bullet on the R3 II, thanks.
Might grab the Gates as well, still shopping around

Ive gotten use to using noise cancelling headphone and im noticing that music sounds a lot more distant and quiet with noise cancelling off. This still happens in very quiet places too. Does anyone why this is?

>>101307004
Pierce the veil

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>>101308747
that's fucking gay

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Is this good? Or should I just go with Jcally?

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Daily reminder how compensated ear gain via sine sweep looks like.

>>101309632
>unironically buying TRooN products

>>101307004
Show Me The Body

>>101307866
Yes, that's a thing. More noticeable in some headpos than others. I barely notice it in my xm4s. Dunno why.

I've had my Starfields for 4 years now, they kind of suck especially compared to my HD560s, would a cheapshit TRN Conch be any better?

>>101309735
I haven't been following IEM development lately. What's wrong with TRN?

>>101309988
you need to be specific how the starfields “suck” in comparison?
TRN conch is pretty damn bright

>>101310012
Bass is incredibly light, details, mids, high are just okay, it's a very average listening experience, soundstage is just barely there

I'd like something with a deeper bass and a more open soundstage.

Are there any cheap headphones or earbuds that don't suck ass? I'm going to the beach and I want something I don't have to worry about

my 600 dollar iem is only a bit different than my 20$ pos wtf.

>>101310128
vidos
>>101310129
we've been saying this

>>101310110
>bass incredibly light
bad seal

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holy pos batman!!

>>101310306
here's your treble extension bro

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>find pretty looking iem
>it's some bottom of the barrel pos
Every time.

>>101310281
>>101310110
This. bad seal indeed.
subbass should be deeper extended than hd650 even with the natural rolloff that IEMs have compared to head dents.

experiment with different tips, usually the deeper the better.

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Do etymotics provide enough noise cancellation for motorcycling at freeway speeds?

>>101311478
Yes, we've actually had a few anons mention these and motorcycling. One issue might be that if you can't get a deep enough insertion, it might not fit in your helmet.
Also, if you do plan on getting them purely for isolation, then take a look at their earplugs. If you need the IEMs, get the ER2 series.

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>>101305702
Bro, the endgame is >>>$1300<<<<
The *Thieaudio Prestige LTD*
This is the midway price between pos below $1000 and above $1500+

It's the ultimate all-rounder endgame

>>101310129
post your $600 pos

>>101311669
Pre-obsoleted by akg type c buds.

>>101311669
>midway price
>not $1250
KYS

>>101311699
we call that retroactively deprecated around these parts

>>101311752
Nobody says that.

>>101295422
keyboard, untrimmed nails, choice of music... when it's all in a single pic like this, this is one of the creepiest things I've seen on here in a while.

>>101311674
>>101311699
>>101311717
>>101311752

Y'all need to give it a listen at the Thieaudio booth at CanJam or some other event

>>101311669
Their sound doesn't justify the price, it's crap

>>101311811
I'm assaulting the first apple carrying retard I see there.

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>>101311833

>>101311942
Dilate.

Delci for $45?

>>101305702
>music sounds so good through my pos bros
what is pos?

>>101311989
good.

>>101311998
Point of Sale.

>>101312027
haha wow so funny and clever

>>101283960
Can I use cotton swab and isopropyl alcohol to clean my IEM filters? Would it cause any issues?

How do you guys clean out your IEMs?

>>101311503
>a few anons
I hate to tell you this but those "few anons" you're talking about are all just the same poorfag who can't afford Etys to test it out himself.

>>101312082
Yes that's a good method. Any type of organic solvent will do as long as they're not too "potent" like acetone.

>>101312082
how often do you do it?

>>101311998
Read this in Urban Dictionary.

>>101312102
>those "few anons" you're talking about are all just the same poorfag who can't afford Etys to test it out himself
nta but I doubt anyone who can afford a motorcycle can't afford to drop $100 on IEMs

>>101312192
for every wanna be cool guy who gets a motorcycle there is a poor fag getting one because they're cheap and get good MPG

>>101312219
>there is a poor fag getting one because they're cheap and get good MPG
yeah, but then you save enough money on gas alone to afford $100 IEMs

>>101312243
>getting a motorcycle because they can't afford gas
>saving money that they didn't have in the first place to spend on some frivolous bullshit
why are so many of you people braindead?

>>101311989
Peak comfort

>>101312289
I don't know, why would anyone spend hours in a thread about IEMs when they can't afford decent ones? People aren't rational, anon

>>101312404
>why would anyone spend hours in a thread about IEMs when they can't afford decent ones?
you must be like 12 years old if you don't even have a basic grasp of elementary psychology like this. not too mention it could just be someone interested in the subject matter for whatever autistic reason.

>>101312449
>not too mention
u r 12. dont bring up psychology ya dumbass

At what price range do sound quality improvements become negligible?

>>101312449
get a job lmao

>>101312539
$500 to $1000 where you get EST and BC drivers

>>101312539
>At what price range do sound quality improvements become negligible?
Let's put the shit flinging and memes aside.

If you're talking about sound quality, it depends on how you define it. If you are talking about overall enjoyment from the user's perspective, then the question itself is flawed because price is most likely correlated with preference. People will naturally gravitate towards more expensive IEMs because of various reasons.

If you're talking about "objective" audio performance, then there is very little reason to go above a certain price point. If you do plan on using EQ and are competent with it, then most IEMs and their drivers are capable of "responding" to said EQ with ease, and this includes dirt cheap IEMs (ie <$5).
If you don't plan on using EQ, then it depends on your preferences. As you go higher in price, more possibilities are available as companies have the necessary resources to shape FR to their goals. In most cases, you'll get every FR variation there is under the $1000 mark.

>>101312539
listen 4 urself.

>dc07
>also 98/100
Andy is taking it too far.

>>101312539
At $5 because I prefer flawed, cheaper earbuds to better sounding, more expensive ones.

What happened to the headphones general? I am looking in the catalog and archive and can't find it. Have inears taken over the world?

>>101312192
My point was he's just talking to shitposter/bot, not someone who's actually looking for advice.

>>101312539
$20 max

>>101312806
>various anons who have asked about IEMs to put in while riding motorcycle are all not real
take your meds bro wth

>>101312796
>/hpg/
Mostly dead. There's just not enough stuff happening to actually keep it alive. Add a few schizos, and a constant barrage of purchase advice posts and you get a general that doesn't have much value.
>/hifi/
Same story, but it's death was just due to inactivity instead of advice posts. Lack of market movement, relatively high barrier of entry, decreasing popularity, and solved science/innovation in terms of preference have made it useless.
>/iemg/
Doing fine all things considered. Market is about to enter a stagnant phase, but there's a lot of market movement and a decent chunk of innovation happening. Barrier of entry is also very very low, so a lot of newcomers and retards.

>>101312840
How else would you explain multiple posts asking about the same retarded question about using etymotics on the road instead of legitimate ear pro? That motorists are retards with no concern for their own well-being? because that's a pretty solid explanation too.

>>101312796
More autists discuss and shitpost here. /hpg/ has less.
>Have inears taken over the world?
Not at all if we're talking about average consumer awareness and ubiquity of headphones versus IEMs. General shift for both has been from wired to wireless, but particularly the smaller, more portable IEMs. People trying and liking affordable wired Chi-Fi is a steady upwards trend though.

>>101312845
>Barrier of entry is also very very low, so a lot of newcomers and frens.
ftfy

new bread >>101313503

>>101297273
>redacted
yeah if you like to do humiliation rituals thats a option
you can also search a little more and discover other ways to pirate and realize how useless private trackers are nowadays, except for being foruns with nice organization and no ads with the same conversations as public foruns

>>101313686
It's not that hard
>download the .torrent and put it on the seedbox
>once it's completed, copy the folder in the library
And that's all, I don't even worry about maintaining a ratio

>>101292237
1. These are garbage
2. They're $170 you got cucked