Fox edition, endgameHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference (basshead, female vocal, treble sensitive, etc.)>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio, Bloom Audio, MusicTeck, Elise Audio (UK)>Shopping Guide (IEMs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide>Frequency Response Graph Toolsquig.link>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tangzu Wan'er S.G (mild V) - $20• EPZ Q1 Pro (Harman) - $35• TRN Conch (bright V) - $35• Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero (bright neutral) - $15• Final E500 (dark) - $25• Tanchjim One DSP (neutral) - $30>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (warm) - $5• RY4S 32Ω mmcx Plus (V-shape) - $10• Yincrow X6 (warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• Moondrop Dawn Pro - $50• Tanchjim Space - $90• Tempotec Sonata BHD Pro - $90• Qudelix 5K - $110>PMPs:• Surfans F20 (Rockbox) - $120• Shanling M0 Pro - $130• HiBy M300 - $200• Hidizs AP80 Pro-X - $200• Tempotec V3 - $200Previous thread: >>101283960
focks on my iem
>>101313503I use a Topping A90Discrete with a Geshelli J2 This is all I have ever used and honestly I don't hear the difference between the audio coming from the amp compared to directly from my computer. It sounds clean I guess. maybe my hearing is already fucked from the work I do i don't know
>>101313503What are these IEMs actually called?
>>101313555checked. that's because there is no difference!https://youtu.be/cIQ9IXSUzuM
>>101313502frens = retards (we're all retards)
>>101313565epz g10. you can get a custom faceplate through epz. q1 pro is more or less the same as the g10 but less gamer-y.
*Thieaudio Prestige LTD*https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=f9TdYDwHeDE&si=lZiaOP6AvDOat5wR [Open] [Open]Reconnect with the cosmos.You are an alchemist, a star child. Unlock your latent powers and travel back to save the universe from the (2012 CERN incident)
>>101313555Amp just makes shit louder + adds a bit of its own noise floor. You never need an amp for IEMs. If your computer's output is too noisy you get an external DAC(if it has a jack then it has a built-in amp as well, most of them do).
>>101313569I even connect my 3ds to the dac via RCA and its the same>>101313631I use tos/link from my PC to the dac I don't know if that does anything more
>>101313503can I use wavelet with UAPP in the exclusive mode? I'm using Poweramp but I prefer the sobriety of UAPP
>>101313726No, it doesn't do anything in exclusive mode. Fork over two bucks for the integrated Toneboosters PEQ and use that instead.
>>101306569NTA but you dont buy iems for sound, you buy them for their diferent design. Its all about the style, and you keep buying it to collect diferent ones. The same thinking as a collector of stamps, toys, baseball pins, figurines etc... thats why there is a infinity of colors and formats of iems.if you thinking you are buying iems for sound you are even more foolish as the ones that buy it for their looks. sound is irrelevant because of equalization and different productions and mixes of songs
>>101314193you cant eq hardware
>>101314187I did that, thanks :3
Spinfit W1 SS arrived yesterday and I've been using them since so I can give you guys a quick review. tl;dr: they're good!I had a set in S size before but didn't use them often because they felt more like M to me and my ear canals are narrow. When it comes to sizing, I feel like W1 SS is the same size or slightly larger than S size of Spring Tips. TRI Clarion S size is slightly larger than W1 SS.They're very comfortable and don't provide excessive pressure so you can wear these for hours on end. I had them in my ears for over 6 hours and didn't feel any pressure or discomfort.They're also slightly sticky. Not as sticky as Xelastec but stickier than Spring Tips. You will have to wash them with a wet towel once in a while. These definitely don't fall out of your ears.They appear to be slightly longer than some of my other tips but they don't stick out much if at all.I didn't notice any big change in sound signature when compared to Spring Tips. But due to the wide bore these will not attenuate higher frequencies at all. Bass and mid-bass sound fantastic with these. I feel like it makes it a lot smoother.Overall, 4.5/5. Might not be a huge upgrade from SpringTips or TRI Clarion but I'm glad I got them and I like them a lot.
>>101313726
>>101314334>color matched tips to cable+5 techs
>>101313620only a linsoul marketing agent would shill this hard
>>101314334spinfits are great i use those and tripowin foam tips almost exclusively
>>101314389>color matchedkek.. basedbut that guy with Pentaconn Coreir tips is doing even better on that front.>>101314581>i use those and tripowin foam tips almost exclusivelyI'm yet to try those but I avoid foam tips like the plague because every set I tried has been way too thick for my ears and I feel severe discomfort after few minutes of use.
wanker or zero
Daily reminder that techs are stored in quarks and Higgs boson
>>101314687Wanker is more comfortable imo
>>101314770i dont want to get the wanker because it looks so chinky meanwhile zero 2 looks industrial
>>101314334I use the W1 M size with my Abyss and I really like them so far, you can use them for hours and hours like you said.
>>101314842Zero 2 looks like a toy, get the Gatos instead.
>>101314912>moondropped>$200if i had $200 to spend i'd get staxalso it doesnt, looks utilitarian and clear zero 2 looks almost as good
>>101314842>industrialYou'll love this then
>>101313726rootful JamesDSP is the best option for android by far
>>101315057i meant industrial utilitarian not fucking fake screws
Do EST drivers require more juice?
>>101315304no, they have little cute transformers in the IEM shell :3
>>101315304specifics. can see io volare as example of very sensitive and low impedance, hardly requires any power
>>101315327Saw this on Hifigo so I was wondering if my variations is gated by my ka13
>>101315304STAX-style ones require fucktons of juice and a special amp, but sonion electrets do not, they're very energy efficient
>>101315436>shitturations>fiio dac>read it in hifigogood lord grow a brain man
>>101315455ah i see, thanks anon
>>101314862very nice setup! stock cable??
>>101315558yes, the stock cable is really good imo, didn't felt the need to change it.
>>101315304Technically yes, they have sensitivity around 85dB/mW which is wat lower than most BAs and DDs, but in reality it is taken into consideration during R&D phase.
Rolled to M·size Spring Tips on my cadenza's, made em slightly brighter on upper mids. Shimmer on cymbals and hi-hats is more prominent. but still not harsh. Will keep them on for a while with rest of the albums.
reminder to upgrade your cables for better separation and cool coloration.
My wanker cords are destroying my ears, do they affect sound quality and can you guys recommend a cheap and comfortable replacement?
>>101316081find the most expensive, unwieldy, heavy, sticky, microphonic fabric cable and that will not only improve your comfort, but also the techs
>>101315712>bmthi remember pretending to like this faggot shit just for my ex lmfao, if you actually enjoy this shit, get your ears checked and probably your sexual preference.
>>101313620sir i buyed Prestige LTD and it sound not as good as my Chu 2, what is needful to do to make it sound better?
microphonics will never be solvedbuy true wireless
>>101316290they are solved on my overears
>>101316304>ovearear in-ear monitorshmmm
>>101316081Just get the cheapest XINS or Ivipq, QDC connector for wankers, but you can pick 2-pins for future proofing since it works with almost everything and it will fit wankers. QDC connectors have that shroud that's incompatible with everything but QDC.
>>101316319i dont listen to ear dildos i just shit this thread up
>>101316257Its a silly album for silly goobers. Also try Fruits Decaying.
>>101315712i really like that name
My moondrop space travel broke, which budget wireless earbuds should I replace it with?
>>101316479kek that was fast, 6 months?
>>101316346what's that font anon
>>101316479redmi and qcy seem fine for ultra budget. soundpeats and soundcore for normie cheap tier
>>101314966Gatos same price as zero OG(unless it’s on sale sometimes you can find for like $10)
>>101316662pixel font. this player allows custom typeface to be set across the entire UI but recently this function stopped working for some reason. MatissePro EB looks very cool with music players
>>101316858>low-res album art in a flac filedisgusting
>>101316894its a 1200x1200 scan...also anything more than 1000x is pure bloat
how can you guys like earbuds, they feel absolutely awful to wear.
>>101317040works on my machine
>>101316081Redeem gato. Use that cable, you also get a better pos than the wankers.
I have been waiting for 31 days for my pos to arrive. It's been in customs for 5 days. Life is pain.
>>101317103Mine arrived exactly after 11 days. It depends on how far your home is really. Hopefully you will get a confirmation within a few days
>>101317103blame China's monsoon season, that shit wrecked a couple factories and now my pos is delayed too
still no graphs for wan’er studio edition???
just listened to music with flat spectral content from 200hz to 20khz, my ears are bleeding
>>101318393>spectral contentspoopy
>>101316918I think the problem is the jpg artifacts.
>>101316820you mean gate?
How do I remove the tips off my nozzles? I keep pinching and pulling, but they don't budge. Do I just turn them inside out and pull on the white part?Also, one of the tips slightly slips out of my ear, not enough to fall out but just enough to fuck up the seal. Do I need larger tips or smaller ones?Pic related, my shillgots that I redeemed
is Simgot EA500LM really good or another flavor of the month?
okso there usbc - 3.5mm donglesbut what aboutwireless dongles with jack?
>>101320555Qudelix
Tell me about tanchjim origin. Is it good (aside from not having a shitfu on the box)?
>>101313503USB C DAC Apple dongle. Apple would never make a DAC that's not suitable for music production
What would be better?>IEMs plugged straight into my desktop pc>IEMs plugged into a usb-c dac, then into a usb-c to regular usb converter of unknown quality, then into my desktop pcI think I should use the DAC. In theory as long as the converter works it shouldn't affect sound quality because it's digital and not analog, right?
>>101316323>but you can pick 2-pins for future proofing since it works with almost everything and it will fit wankersdon't do this
>>101321089try bothmy onboard audio sounds like shit compared to using a dac
>>101316858Not that faggot but what player is that? Looks nice.
blon just invented the portable dac amp
i hear a difference between measurably transparent dacs apparently
>>101321389Imagine the possibilities. Listening to music on the go...
>>101321612Post ABX results.
>>101320486it's FOTM for nearly half a year already which means it's really good
>>101321218the onboard audio also has a DAC
i am not buying the wanker SE without the fucking squigs
>>101321782keyed
>>101321684how the fuck am i supposed to do that retard
So this wasn't clear in the manual what are the differences with the tips that came with my NiceHCK F1 Pro?
>>101321782I already did, should be here this/next week.
>>101322084You clearly performed a volume-matched ABX test if you're telling us you hear a difference. Everyone knows that without ABX you can always "hear" a difference even if it's the exact same setup so those results don't matter.
i dont think the wanker se even existshavent seen anyone post a picture of it
>>101322422meds i'm not deaf and it's not uncommon for dacs to have rolloff in 15khz+
>>101322433Then they're not transparent.
>>101322432seems like they've gained 0 hype and 0 traction
>>101322634They didn’t send out a single review unit and just told a bunch of people on facebook to spam for a “chance to win”like wtfAlso no graphs. original wanker had manufacturer graph and was published early to people like HBB who helped get traction and hype going(not that I like coolabbers but they do help in that department where chifi has zero marketing)
>>101321389>affordable>tech windowit's over for sourcebros
My phone's usb c port is dead and won't recognize any other than my charger cable, but only after I put the cable in a very specific position. Is there any way to fix it without spending money? If not, I'll get another phone or a pmp.
>>101323373replace the usb C daughterboard? when did /g/ become incompetent consumercucks>she says this in #1 consumer general on gee
Okay so after the shilling I picked up some FAAEAL Rosemary. I'm legit impressed. I EQ'd away little of its warmth and they still sound comfy like a blanket. After not wearing flatheads since 2003 or something, it's amazing how comfy they are. I completely forget I am wearing them after a few moments.
Maybe Tangzu compared the Gatos to their Studio Wankers and realized they were pre-obsoleted. Now they release this in silence to make it look like a little side-release to save face.
>>101323766I have the gato with the SE coming this week. Will do the needful and compare.
>>101323788you have a 711 clone coupler too?How are you liking your gatos?
>>101323844I don't have a coupler.Gato is fine, highlight is the fit and cable. Doesn't sound as good as some other 1DDs in the price bracket and is not really competitive against more expensive single DD sets.
Anyone have experience with this thing? Need to pick up something cause fuck modern phone design and it's either this or the Dawn Pro. Have a pair of OG Zeros so this should be good enough.
>>101323788I don't have the original Wankers but I'd be surprised if the Studios are really better than the Gatos. I guess the sound is more or less the same with the updated sound signature and the comfort is probably also not an issue. The Gatos have the better cable (it's really good, I really like to just pick up the Gatos when they're rolled together, everything holds together nicely, compared to e.g. the thinner Hexa cable). Then it's really up to the looks, but I'm a sucker for transparent design. But maybe I'm wrong.
One more thing about the Gatos: Usually I only use eq with negative gain values. But since there is an audible dip at 9.5 kHz when using a sine tone, I tried to eq it. When applying a peaking filter at 9.5 kHz with positive gain and listening to a 9.5 kHz sine again, then the frequency is not really amplified, but suddenly I hear a second sine wave (!) with a lower frequency. I don't know whether it is just my unit, or it is a general problem; maybe someone can verify. This is a real problem that the Studio Wankers might not have.
>>101324057Bro, your preamp value.
All this discussion about Gatos and Wanker StudiosBros... Kinera released a boutique pos at the same price of ours. It's over, they won.
>>101324101Kinera never made a good IEM.
>>101323900I really like the fact that the studios have a 1.4m cable, but I was really hoping they'd include some dual flange tips for better isolation. Sound sig wise I'm hoping for something like DF to differentiate them from old Wankers and Gatos. Perhaps not the most "musical" option but I'd be pretty unique in the price bracket.>>101324101I care little about Kinera pos, especially with how consistently ass everything they've ever released has been.
>>101324101If they kept the bass lighter and put a stop to that 2khz shouty bullshit it would’ve been cheap POS nirvana
>>101324075Oh, I'm just a retard, what a relieve! I thought my audio system does that automatically, but apparently it doesn't.
>>101324148If you're talking about Peace then it only does this when its window is open.
>oh so you need to EQ anyways so the stock sound does not matter >boutique fancy looking kinerapos for 25$ comes out >condom plastic pos owners having a melty
Kind of a retarded problem, but I enjoy daily driving my cheap kbear storms at my desk except for the cable being too damn short. My DAC is splayed half across the desk for them to reach my ears comfortably.
>>101324136>>101324198Kinera you had one job
>>101324198Dumb frogposter.>>101324256Dumb iposter.
>>101324256>10dB penne gainoof. Yikes. Who hurt you? You must be fun at parties.
>>101324280>penne gain
Does anyone know how the Final E500 compare to the Moondrop Quarks? Worth getting one over the other?
>>101324280back to le reddit, nigger
>>101324280>oof>yikesfaggot
>>101324395>>101324445keep crying chudjaks.>>101324330ik what I said.
what kind of cable has the least cable noise? I mean when it rubs on your shirt as you move around. It drives me nuts.
I know people here like to recommend the Tripowin Zonie, but is the Zoe a decent enough upgrade to those? It's on sale rn looks like on Amazon
>>101324546anything braided.
>>101324643Thank you.Any recommendations for bullet type IEMs with braided cables? The Tanchjim ones in OP don't ship where I live from amazon...
I had a dream, a dream about pos with this FR.It was a wonderful dream.
>>101315712>>101316346>>101316858Once again asking what PMP(?) this is.
>>101324781generally anything is fine, I just got the cheapest nicehck cable I could find (purple something). Works and doesn't have any microphonics.
>>101324793Makes sense that you saw that in your dreams. If you had heard it in your dreams it’d would’ve become a nightmare HEY-O
I did a +12db bass boost and now it sounds proper
>>101324333Quarks have more bass, but E500 have way nicer sounding travel. E500 also have overall better built quality and they come with a full set of Final E tips which are already more expensive than the E500.
>>101324930>>101324546They don't ship where I live from amazon, unfortunately... How is cable noise on those? Because it's terrible on the quarks and those seem to have the same kind of cable
Sorry, they do ship those, but not the Tanchjim One DSP ones that have a braided cable. Got them messed up
>>101324256Ngl that's a terrible suggestion, unless you really like bass overtaking vocals in a mix.
>>101324586No, people generally don't like Zoe. It's a stiff, unwieldy cable with heavy metal hardware bits (the Y-split, etc.). There are better thick cables like Faaeal Hibiscus, or many more on Aliexpress.
im returning my em6l because they are broken what should i get instead
>>101324950>>101324960Yes, the Final is microphonic as well. Most bullets like those have similar mediocre cable quality.
>>101325121I've been browsing for alternatives with little success. I found the Linsoul TANGZU PRINCESS CHANGLE but every review says they have insanely noisy cables, despite being braided.I just want iems without an ear hook or noisy cables. God damn it.
>>101325114shozy p20 sale on linsoulepz k5, celest phoenixcall, kefine delci cheapest price you can find on aliexpress
>>101325243thoughts on supermix 4?
>>101325216>I just want iems without an ear hook or noisy cables.These are a luxury item, I guess.I think I'm going to gamble on slightly marked up TRN M10 because there is no other <100€ option.Only other iem that meets the criteria is the final e4000 (160€) and Shure 215 (120€)Can any wise anons advise
>>101325439>without ear hookjust snip them off, not that hard>noisy cablesreally depends on what you consider noisy. you'll need something that is soft and flexible. chin cinch can also be helpful.get any cheap xinhs/ivipq cable. you can even request for them to come without ear hooks. but really, the best way is using over-ear pos. bullets just transfer that much more mechnically-induced noise, while over-ear pos "dissipate" that energy through the part of the cable that is wrapping over the ear.
>>101325216Ironically shrillgot got some damn nice cablels if you remove the earhooks and ztupid chink slider. Soft and light with very little to no microphonics. You can get ew200 just for it and get rid of the pos itself afterwards
>buying pos for the cablessevere mental illness
literally just put the xinhs 8 core black cable on everything
>>101325372it's fine harmeme
>>101320312pull em off. you need larger tips. >>101322273there aren't many differences. i like the ones with the colored cores. just pick the right size that seals
>>101320312or stickier / different design tips. several people use spinfit w1 style with that simgot shell
>>101325528Thank you for the confidence boost, anon.I never knew leaving the uncut life would be so easy.(It's my only iem cable, I was scared.)
>>101325969Just realised this means I'm going to reverse the polarity on both sides. Does this matter?
>>101324801>>101321238Black Player EX, its on playstore
>>101325984>reverse the polarity on both sides. Does this matter?most probably not. ignore the absolute polarity memes
Well, I checked some youtube phase test videos and everything sounds good. I'm happy, saved some d€ustchemarks.
>>101325984To my untrained ears reversed polarity makes no difference. You have the option to experiment with it using VST effect in foobar2k
>>101326137maybe if one of them is reversed but the other is not it sounds weird? I'm reversing bothUnfortunately I'm on linux so no native foobar
>>101326176there's always Ardour for using vsts, may be overkill but it's what comes to my head
>>101326176Yes it will sound weird if only one channel is reversed.I checked audacity is available in linux, it can reverse audio channel.
Tell me about tanchjim origin.
>>101326391earphone for faggot niggers
>>101326438Is it a good pos? Kinda want them because they look nice. They slay. Clittyleakingly good.
>>101326391Worse drivers than in $20 pos.No Asano on the box.Garbage.
>>1013264891DD doe which means automatically good.
Asano is presumably crafting her next pos as we speak. Wait for a bit then cop thr next best thing made by Asano!
>>101326549I'd buy it if it was unironically made by Asano
>>101326664She gives her all when making a new product. She makes sure they are adorned with all the love and care before selling it to the fans. Because Asanobabs deserve nothing less than perfection!
why are so many IEM reviewers so disgusting? even those that don't show their face find other ways to make you feel disgusted and click off.
>>101326769Retard... these fingers are clean and finely shaped,,, , Retard,,,
>>101326829trim your nails you basedboy fag
>>101326481I mean you need to see the whole picture.The chinks inherited a solid 1DD tech and in the course of last 5 years dampened the price down to 20-50$ with minor iterative improvements, which is good for the consumer, buuut...Chinks being chinks they are not quite able to make a breakthrough or have a proper independent R&D from the scratch. Companies capable of it like Sennheiser and Final play a totally different game with long-term stable model lineup and different pricing, which is contrary to chinese model of cheap fotm. So that being said it is a good pos, but it for the price it is not much different if at all from its way cheaper counterparts.
I need an upgrade for my Hexa. Is there anything better than it like under 400$?
>>101326903Why would you want to upgrade from Hexas? They're literally the best stop being an untrained faggot listener
>>101326903EA500LMcheaper, lighter & comfier.
>>101326911I need something that will make me cry plus hexer is low T
NO NO NOOOOOO PLEASE HOLD ONTO THE HEXAS RETARD THEY'RE STILL RELEVANT IN 2022+2 I PROMISE
>>101326946>i need something that will make me cryhexas already provide you all of the sounds and micro-sounds you need to listen of any song.... there's nothing beyond that, different tunning? sure but there's nothing that will make you cry unless you put your fucking iems in your eyes and start crying of pain.
do IEMs have equal or better sound quality than headphones or is there an inherent tradeoff? I imagine IEMs have much worse bass than headphones can offerassuming IEMs aren't a significant downgrade from headphones what I'm looking for is,>under 300 dollars, something between 100 and 200 dollars is ideal though>general-use, computer and sometimes my phone if I'm gonna go jogging, almost entirely at home but it'd be nice if they were durable enough that a bit of water or sweat or jostling won't ruin them>I'm not sure exactly what frequency response means but I just want the sound balance to be as flat as possible, I want everything to sound the way it was mixed>current headphones are Sony MDRV6 studio monitors, I like the sound quality but I'm sick of wearing headphones that rub my fuckin hair off the top of my head
>>101326903Moondrop Bellsing 3 is supposed to be the Hexa on steroids
>>101323652I love hearing random barks and car noises while listening to my jams too
>>101314862I'm gonna use TRI Clarion M's, use these with all my iems. M's are purple-colored too.
>>101327179>much worse bassprecisely the opposite. Biggest drawbacks to IEMs is that they bypass the outer ear so soundstage is a lot narrower. They are also arguably more HRTF dependent so what sounds good to me may not to you, and vice versa
>>101327179Truthear Hexa
Anyone have any experience with Rikubuds?
>>101327179Pic the cheapest thing in the op, they'll likely be good enough. Chink iems tend to die easily.
how do i know if i am getting a good seal?
>>101328020you can usually tell by the flavour
>>101328046nooooooo ;_;
>>101328020move your chinks inside your ears>they leak external soundbad seal>they don't leak external soundgood sealit's really easy to notice unless you're deaf.
>>101326391It's good. What you're paying for is really just channel matching, build quality, and branding. The nozzles are gimmicky, comfort is meh, and accessories are decent.I personally love mine, but not necessarily for sound. I just love the way they look and feel. They can be replicated with EQ but will require a lot of tweaking above 6khz.
>>101327644>RikubudsI don't know why you're looking for impressions, there are plenty elsewhere. What we can tell you is that earbud impressions are probably the most subjective when compared to impressions of other devices like headphones or IEMs.
>>101327041>sure but there's nothing that will make you cry unless you put your fucking iems in your eyes and start crying of pain.kek
>>101328020a) play audio in the earphones, listen for sub bassb) play audio on your phone or other speakers while the iems are inserted, listen for the sound to be occluded
wanking feels so good
>>101328161how does wanker studio sound compared to the SG?
>>101328161MEASURE THEM
any good iem yet
>>101328439come back tomorrow
>>101328020you dont need seal just turn the volume up
>>101328459any good tws yet
>>101326859How come Sennheiser and final both make abhorrent dogshit for high prices? Maybe final has the smarr Japanese company prease andastadt but senny has no excuse for how shit their iems are.
>>101328161Even the blue one, damn
>>101328514>Even the cheapest 20$ Final E500 still makes it to the OP, measures smooth af on 5128 (check cringacle), stays relevant and mogs chinkshit despite being released in 2020 Name a single chink iem that aged so well
>>101328593Bullet shits are just there for spergs who like an inferior form factor, look at any of their recently released iems. Its clear they have no idea what they're doing.
>>101328501come back next year
>>101328161https://youtu.be/ybcS7CP4Om0
>>101328501Denon Perl Pro
>>101328501
no fucking way mr fengru
>>101328685It does not even measure half bad if you consider 8kHz resonance lmao. Also you are explicitly dodging my take about pointing out a chink iem which stays relevant for 4 years :) Btw there is zero benefit of IEMs compared to bullets unless you go CIEMs which properly do seal your ear for noise isolation. inb4 your point is about wearing IEMpos over-ear to reduce microphonics, then Finals got you covered as they include hooks with your bulletpos https://snext-final.com/en/products/accessories/detail/earhook.html
Market analysis. Which is more popular: Chu 2 or Wan'er?
>>101328593You still are subjected to Final's non-existent QC which results in nobody's E500 measuring the same. Not to mention sub-par channel matching.
>>101328854jizz wankin'
>>101328829>Btw there is zero benefit of IEMs compared to bulletsDon't slip out of your ears constantly, less cable noise, better drivers. Plenty of benefits.
>>101328895Personally I never got issues with Final QC, but either way you are probly redeeming them from Amazon, so you can always refund and play again if you lose for no cost while *ahem keeping a bonus pair of those sweet Final Type E tips as nobody would notice anyways*, Do I really need to spoonfeed you every time?
>>101328161Now get the red one
>>101328958Good for you, but I'd rather just buy a product that works day one instead of having to "play again" and waste time shipping stuff back.
>present year>blon bl-03 still the king
said literally no one
>>101328829Even your low standards can't accept this right?Trifecta tier performance, gaymousetranny could never.
bros, i bought the KZ EDX PRO X (not the PRO non X) and its honestly meh, not enough bass and its kinda harsh in the high frequencies.but i cant complain since i got it from aliexpress for 2 dollars lmao.But since i now have a reference, what would you recommend to look for that can achieve that sound im looking for? im still a shitter at reading frequency responses and i cant find this IEM on squig.I mainly listen to Rock, Metal and Ocassional EDM.>budget is $25 dollars maxis the wang'er or Zero:2 really that good?
>>101329547you got KayyDeez bwt lmaopick up the gato or cop wanker SE if its available
>>101329584>pick up the gatomotherfucker speak english im still new into the iem shit lmao
>>101329635that anon is referring to the Truthear Gate or Tangzu Wan'er Studio Edition
>>101329547>>101329635he is telling you to get the truthear gatei would advice against it, since you think the edx pro x doesn't have enough bassthe wanker se is new on the block so i would also advice against getting itthe zero:2 might be fine for you, yes
i fucking hate dust
>>101329668thanks anon>>101329676I mean it doesnt have enough bass but its doable, but definitelly has too much high end as well, maybe it has too many unstable curves up and down, would looking at any iem graph and seeing if its more stable at the high-end be better for me? i can see the zero:2 and wanker have more stable curves post 4KHZ>pic rel is the only thing i could find about edx pro x graph, sadly
>>101329748those curves are somewhat common, but you should look at IEMs that reach lower levels in that region if you think it's too shoutyreading reviews also helps to understand what graphs actually mean, and afaik the zero:2 has a "non-sibilant" treble so that might be a better option. i've never read about the wang'er
>>101329547Simgot EW200
>>101329809thank you anon, i have seen a lot of videos from various iem reviewers and been seeing lots of budget options so ill keep doing research. i will try to get better at reading graphs.I will stay away from KZ's for now, i've only seen good things from KZ Castoir bass edition but im still on the fence about it.
>>101329687yeah dust2 is way better
>>101329835Looks decent, ill add it to my iem list, thanks you
>edx pro x>aka simgot ea500lmlmao
>>101329809same anon here, found a better graph, that 8k-10k region might be why its so unbearable to listen sometimes.
>>101329918>paying attention to 8khz resonanceretard...
>>101329918if you feel like there is something in the high frequencies bothering you, but you can't distinguish its sound, then yes, that might be it>>101329930he's not deaf
>>101329930>retardNigger i just said in my first post im still new to learning to read graphs. also i EQ, compress and mix on superior drummer 3 my own e-drums to play along. and I hear that 8Khz all the time, the cymbals get annoying as shit at some point and its the same noise.>>101329948>if you feel like there is something in the high frequencies bothering you, but you can't distinguish its sound, then yes, that might be itThank you, guess now i know that i want a bit less upper treble or more stable (less spiky) curves
>>101329407no, really, i have iems many times the price of these and none sound as pleasant, musical or engaging. it was basically endgame right of the bat but people didn't know any better, they really had to nerf it by putting this gay ass conector. also keep in mind i'm talking about a recabled, filter exchanged and ear tip roll'd blon.
>>101329547>>101329918its out of ur budget but maybe wait for a sale on the cadenza? its a warmer set so there shouldn't be any harshness
Reminder to not read the fine details in graphs past 3khz.
>>101330071budget is better than i expected, thanks for the recomendation anon.
>>101329748First rule of KZ IEMs: never trust their graphs7hz aero is a cheap POS with lots of bass and not super harsh treble idk maybe try that
Is Wyvern Abyss worth getting for the mic? How do they compare to EPZ G10? Then there's the build quality/durability, do they use some kind of tuning filter that needs to be changed after a while?
So I had the Sony WF-1000XM4...iem(?) and I loved it, sat comfortably in my ear for hours straight and the Noise Canceling was great, somehow I misplaced them/they got stolen and at this point looking to replace them.>My budget is no higher than $250>I mostly used it to listen to a large variety of music and some videos/video gaming.Taking all recommendations, or should I just rebuy them again.
>>101330352>So I had the Sony WF-1000XM4...iem(?) and I loved itjust rebuy them
>>101330276yeah good thing I learned really fast with KZ before dumping hundreds on that brand. most of their graphs look almost the same too.. lolI will check out your recomendation anon, thanks
i thought noise cancelling was a good idea but all i hear is my tinnitus now
>>101329547that shit is old my nigga, get libra balanced. it graphs like edx lite but trust me, i have both and libra fuckin slaps in the subbass region and somehow the treble is smoother.
>>101330365ya have fun. Beware there is a 4khz peak but shouldn’t be too bad especially with the stinky bass
wheres the innovation? making things cheaper isnt innovative
>>101330352wait 2 days for the galaxy buds pro 3 to release and see if they're any good
>>101330374>all i hear is my tinnitus nowhow did u get it?
>>101330618i was born with it
>>101330628fuck that sucks.you sure your parents didn't fire a gun around you when you were too young to remember?
I ordered the Zero Red for 40$did i get a good one?
>>101330709yep because i was born with this toohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_snow_syndromeand when youre born with one its common to be born with the othertheyre not severe though i didnt even know it wasnt supposed to be like this for a really long time
>>101330721>zero redit's fine if you can fit them.
>>101330709tinnitus doesn't equal hearing damage but everyone without it just thinks that it's from hearing damage
>>101329547Wouldn't call the Zero 2 basshead, but it's got the Harman amount and well defined for the price. Not harsh on treble either.
>>101330314no, the Wyvern Abyss is shittier but they do have a better faceplatethe OG Wyvern Pros are better
>>101330737>yep because i was born with this too>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_snow_syndrome>and when youre born with one its common to be born wniggawhat??>In May 2015, visual snow was describedso this is a brand new disease? so uncommon and rare yet there's a guy on /iemg/ who claims to have it?why would someone who has messed up eyes & ears care about quality audio when you can't even hear the difference?>>101330753ok, I looked it up. I believe you.>Approximately 3–10% of children have been reported to be troubled by tinnitus.[139]
>>101330893kill yourself troll>>101330827 yep zero:2 is just right imo doesn't even need eq
>>101313503kekw, i had hoped to try this, but this is a nope.
>>101329547Must be shitty seal.
Thoughts on the TRI I3 MK3?
>>101330276>non-removable plastic shitIt'll die in 2 months.
Are the Tanchjim 4U worth it for $60?
>>101331542based. if i was in the market for neutral purple pos, it's the one to get
>>101331602headfiers are saying it's OK and comparable to Delci. 4u kinda missing tanchjim sovl because no asano tanch memorabilia. Delci will be lighter weight aluminum shell, prob slimmer fit too.
I don't even know why this general still exists. Just get a $whatever pos, EQ by ear, and you have your endgame iem. What beyond this needs to be discussed everyday?
>>101332301Faceplates. Box art.
>>101332301funny how you say EQ by earyet nobody provides a clear example of what to EQ
>>101332479Okay what do you want to see? A preset? A graph of a preset?
>>101332479>what to EQEverything below 10k
>>101332301Nobody here knows how to EQ.
it's not knowing how to eq it's having accurate measurements of what you want you can just eq to what sounds good to you thats easy
ai know how to eq but won't become im a lazy sloth
>>101328161why are wankers so fucking ugly? they look like cheapest chinese toys, even the first salnotes zero which already looks cheap makes a better impression
I provided the graph of my pos(kinera abyss) to ChatGPT and it gave me this EQ settings, what do you guys think?
>>101328593Blon BL03>but why it's not in the recs?because over-ear IEMs get better over time in a rapid pace, while retarded bullets stay as they are and aside from based Etymodicks they're average at best, so even the ol' BL03 still mogs most of them, not to mention current recs which obsoleted and mogged it long agoalso Tomoko best waifu
>>101330737>seeing the world through a nice noise shaderS O V L
>>101316283A a real Dac/Amp you bingus!Now post picture of your LTDs with timestamp
Audio scrub here. I was about to ask about the lifespan of wired earbuds, since I switched to bluetooth explicitly because I was tired of buying new buds every few months when one side would go silent.But I've now noticed that the IEMs here disconnect from the cables. So am I expected to just replace the cable every few months instead? Or are the lifespans better for these and it's just for some technical aspect to be able to swap them out?
which one are you choosing?
I apologize
>>101325969what's the advantage of doing this? less tangle?
>>101332301they need to show off their purchases or their wishes of purchases to validate their reckless and consumerist speeding. the same as every other general in /g/, just materialist bullshit
>>101334158Honestly just personal preference. I don't like having to place the hook over my ridge of my ears after I jam the tips into my earholes, it's an annoying extra step ESPECIALLY with glasses, since they sometimes get caught on the frame.So I cut the hooks off. Be careful if you do it, not to score the actual cables inside, I ran the blade down the hole thing, then made an incision at one of the edges and tore them apart.
wow i can't spell for shit in the morningalso, don't do it on your only cable like me
>>101334158Default hooks often twist the IEMs out of the ears. You can shape them properly with heat but removing them entirely is even better, the cable will just automatically take the most comfortable shape.
>>101333990Only one i need
so I love my F1 Pro. Is there an affordable matching cable for them? I like the stock cable, but I'd like a blue one to go with with the IEMs themselves.
>>101313503That fingerbox looks like it's rigged to hurt me
>>101328593what's pos?
>>101334599piece of shit
>>101334623The fuck you just call me nigga?
>>101334346weird... if that's the case, then those people that make cables with that hook are plain stupid...
>>101334516Only if you're black.
tips from summer sale finally arrived
>>101334804I think there are only a few hundred nogs in my country and I'm not one. I don't think I've seen one that wasn't a foreigner or a recent immigrant. Pakis and their ilk on the other hand, that's an infestation.
>>101313503If I use medium sized tips, does that generally mean there is a high chance other medium sized tips from different brands and models will also be suited for my ears?
>>101334956its not guaranteed, best to refer to the specific dimensions of each tip - for example i use medium for divinus but large for spinfits
>>101313555Nah, it just means your computer has decent sound on board. I use Lenovo Legion 5 with Topping L30/E30 and difference in sound is big. With iems I can even hear a weird constant noise, if i plug them into laptop.
>>101334411Holy Faaeal Anon, I kneel. I bow to ze budz.
Wyvern Abyss arrived, they're absolutely massive and are uncomfortable but not as uncomfortable as I might have expected.Tried them with the divinus velvet they came with at the suggestion of some other anon. They're also oddly heavy even with the earhooks.They're not as V shaped as my 30$ headphones and sound a bit worse than them because of that and the lack of soundstage, but might try messing around with EQ after finding what eartips I'm going to use (also got some whizzer mm100 and there's two other sizes of the divinus)They should serve for what I got them for though
Am I retarded for wanting these? I need to block out some noise and these seem to be the only double layered tips with decent reviews
>>101335291Post pics of it in your ear, if they are truly that big
>>101335332yeah i bought some of these and they are fucking terrible. fit is horrendous and the sound gets all wonkythere is a tang sancai double flange coming out also
>>101334599Pinnacle of sound.
>>101335403shame about the spinfitsalso, those sound like something thats only gonna be on aliexpress that im gonna have to wait 3 months forguess im fucked
>>101335422should i say also that i'm one of those faggots that gets gags reflexes with deep insertion so by principle these don't work for me at all
>>101335336I mean they might not be big to you guys but they're big to me, I haven't used IEMs much but the ones I have used are much smaller, especially when it comes to how far they stick out the earI think these will not work for sleeping on my side due to how much they "stick out" now that I think about it so I'll have to hope the hotel isn't too loud
>>101335472Post hand
>>101335472that's some straight up fucked up ear, I bet you have a gummy smile and negative canthal tilt too you freak
>>101335470your ears can't be gagged, anon...
>>101335472homosexual ear ngl
>>101335472headphones are more your speed
>>101333990the wanker blue box is fucking ugly
>>101335069wir only getting started with ze buds, waiting for 11.11 for a big haul. Not sure if i'll stick to iris 2 or maybe get ancestors or vido's for more quantity
>>101335569I know, it's why I use them, just not ideal for trips>>101335536Takes one to know one>>101335527Incorrect, I would "mog" you as the kids call it>>101335492Sorry, that's off limits, they're simply too erotic
>>101335472I would lick em
iem bros...What cable would you recommend that is not more than 10 freedom dollars that can work with ANY IEM? or at least with 90% of the IEM market? some IEM's have different 2 pin designs so im not sureHopefully using Aliexpress pricing, With or without mic works for me
>>101336555buy any TRN N-Core cable