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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Lucy edition

>News
Claude 3.5 Sonnet with 2x the speed and 1/5 the cost https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-3-5-sonnet
Cards v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq - tldr: >>100900968
Seeing all cards in chub now needs logged in, enabled nsfw/nsfl and cleared blacklist
Gemini 1.5 Pro 2mil context, 1.5 Flash, Gemma 2, and more soon: https://blog.google/technology/developers/gemini-gemma-developer-updates-may-2024

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
latest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://chub-archive.evulid.cc
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list
https://rentry.org/charcardrentrylist

>Guides
https://docs.sillytavern.app - https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Jailbreaks
https://rentry.org/jb-listing

>Frontends
https://sillytavern.app [SillyTavern]
https://agnai.chat [Agnai]
https://risuai.xyz [RisuAI]

>Models
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs
local: >>>/g/lmg
https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
try these -> https://rentry.org/weirdbutfunjailbreaksandprompts - https://rentry.org/jinxbreaks
logs: https://chatlogs.neocities.org
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list

Nyaa~: >>101303585
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>ANCHOR
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>>101306833
Bakie where's the subject? Back to the oven you go.
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>>101306837
https://www.characterhub.org/users/pitanon
https://rentry.org/pitanonbots
https://rentry.org/pitanonprompts
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>>101306865
he's doing it on purpose
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>>101306837
https://rentry.org/Writing_Style

>Updated JB made own writing style to make CoT optional for tracking purposes.

Poll for emulating author:
https://strawpoll.com/61gD9Q1WLZw
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SOOO is pepsi going to refill or what?
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>>101306865
yep he's doing it for shits and giggles.
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>>101306888
yes be patient
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>>101306894
>>101306888
probably going to wait until Merkava dies again
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>>101306837
https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/erin-trans-girlfriend-no-watermark-eb7a8c7bb26b

Not my card i just wanted to fill the anchor with shitty cards
Anyways why do niggas try to make polygamy a thing? Like stfu nigga that's just cheating with consent , just leave the relationship if you don't like it.
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>>101306888
>>101306894
>>101306897
get in vros!!!

https://bidding-across-throws-aerial.trycloudflare.com/
https://bidding-across-throws-aerial.trycloudflare.com/
https://bidding-across-throws-aerial.trycloudflare.com/
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>>101306897
but merkava IS dead right now
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>>101306837
Joke Suggestion by you niggas.
This exists becuase of YOU!

Mark Johnstone, a ALPHA MALE TWINK FUCKER, and he wants some BUSSY, AND HE WANTS IT NOW!

DOWNLOAD NOW!:
https://chub.ai/characters/PunishedJamaicanChungus/mark-johnstone-27a058e13fb8
https://files.catbox.moe/k0ybfq.png
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>>101306833
Always prefered her strong personality.
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>done with the draft for the bot
>have no idea what kind of clothes she should wear
AIIIEEE I JUST WANT TO START GENNING A PICTURE FOR THE CARD
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>>101306929
A skirt and tank top.
Be simple.
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>>101306905
Anon it was suggested only by me. Stop giving credit to this whole general for this masterpiece idea. I will not coom to it as long as you pretend it was made by thos retard general as a whole
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>>101306929
Yes but then i want you to gen me a picture of a chaste (i.e. smoll and no boobs or ass) 16 year old anime girl with dark purple hair and big glasses who is shy and is sitting on a couch
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>>101306950
Niggas had the option to stop me but they didn't
I wish somebody would at least read the description spend an hour on it
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>>101306929
why is she wearing clothes at all?
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opus/furbo/gpt-4 32k:

https://vip.jewproxy.tech
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>>101306952
no.
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sex
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>>101306975
YES
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I keep getting nothing but "I'm sorry, but I can't continue this conversation." Messages on all of my chats out of nowhere. I used a jailbreak so it should be good. Anything I can do to fix it? Using Chat GPT 4o.
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>>101306961
Not everyone has to be naked and have big boobs, himmyadams
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unreliable is very reliable
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>>101306987
GPT models can't even be prefilled and probably they cranked up the censorship like Anthropic
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Small breasts or no breasts?
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>>101307015
>no breasts
what's the point? that's just a boy.
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>>101307033
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>>101306975
lovely pose and angle
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>>101306975
I love Rio so much. I don't even play BA, but her design is pure sex.
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>>101307008
Now it feels like all my progress is lost. Is it best to just wait out the problem?
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>>101306975
she boutta poot
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I tried to capture Anon's autistic but retarded nature when writng his responde to a shitpost on aicg, please let me know if you would like me to adjust anything or take this story in a different direction! :3
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>>101307100
Let me plap you :3
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>The ball was in his court. It was going to be a long day...
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>>101307091
It's not something that will go away. Your best bet is to switch to Claude
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>>101306837
I wanted a bot to imitate the style of twitter schizo posts.. so I stole a bunch of them put them as example chats and made this slop
10k tokens all in example chats, absolutely retarded half of the time but produces funny results the other half

The profile picture is supposed to be measurehead from Disco Elysium at the request of a /vg/ anon, I just can't get it to display on my ST because something's fucked up

https://www.characterhub.org/characters/constantchange/chudbot3000-7b7cc8ad0622
https://nyai.me/ai/bots/CHUDBOT3000_wz


reach me at: theriverofconstantchange@protonmail.com
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It's insane how pozzed 3.5 is. Feels like Anthropic have finally started use their curated dataset from claude.ai. It's 0613 all over again
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was finally able to catch a wild lizard large enough to finger its cloaca and finish the trinity(have already done it with a bird and an amphibian)

it is still very gross, as always. any stimulation to the cloaca and whatever animal it is will instantly evacuate the entirety of their bowels.

all in all, if you really want to get a finger in a cloaca, i'd recommend a bird. its much harder to catch one if you're going for wild, but parakeets are at every single pet store on earth. and i recommend birds just because they feel nicer for your hand that's holding them.

also maybe it was just because of the time i did it but when i did the amphibian it was super cold inside. which i get, but not very enjoyable. the lizard was much warmer inside, but it was literally basking when i caught it

anyways, any cloaca-based card recommendations?
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>>101307151
You just have to force 3.5 a little more in your jb.
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>>101307166
I mean yeah. I could force Furbo to be lewd too, but it just doesn't feel the same. I want the models to pick up on hints without me forcing it down its throat
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>>101307008
Use one of the 4o jbs from the OP, or omnimaxx from https://rentry.org/bloatmaxx.
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>>101307175
I mostly meant having a jb dedicated to 3.5 being a little more explicit than opus, which is thirstier by default.
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>>101307120
Yeah, he knows his cheese stuff.
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>>101307199
he's a funny guy
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>>101307100
>>101307103
kill yourselves
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>>101307195
true, it's just hard to find a good balance between making it too horny and prude.
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>>101307151
It's not that sorbet is any more pozzed than youd expect a current year corpo model, it's just that Opus is a HORNY motherfucker
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>>101307222
Not until I get to plap the other anon, then I will, deal?
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>>101307156
https://characterhub.org/characters/Sibilantjoe/imogen-f471448f8acc
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>>101307239
>Her plumage around her breasts, vagina, and anus is tiny and soft, like down.
This character does NOT have a cloaca!
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Opus is too horny and I'm glad I don't need an anti-NSFW prompt anymore now that I'm on the chad's choice: three or four Opus prompts to set up writing style, and then Sonnet 3.5 the rest of the way (with Opus whenever I want something bombastic to happen.)
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>>101307227
>>101307195
I just added "allowed" with the same jb. It feels like the inherent horniness of Claude is still there but it's repressed to cater to the corpos.
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>>101307246
It's just one line nigga, change it yourself.
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>>101307256
>"cloaca-based card recommendations"
>recommends character who doesn't even have one, let alone being based on it
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do most models even understand what a cloaca is lmao
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>>101307255
It's hot, not bad.
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>>101307267
i would assume claude does with his insistence on turning all my kemonomimi into furries. it's obvious he has a preference
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>>101307267
in the context of an anthro/humanoid with them
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oh claude...
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>>101307255
>One token makes this much of a difference
Dario-sama, please give us logit bias
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fiz said rape is bad in nurdy
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>>101307304
unless you've got news about moxxie, i don't want to hear SHIT about 'ords
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>The key I'm using for ec2 is quarantined from Bedrock, so it should be disabled sooner or later. Check back here then for the new 4 words.

unreliableanon, which is this? Private or public?
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>>101307312
public
the quarantine also happened yesterday so i'm just sort of over here drumming my fingers waiting for 20 posts to this thread at once
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>>101307304
WTF UNBASED
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>>101307304
Sounds like someone needs a good raping,
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>>101307304
yes rape is bad i hate when someone cries during sex
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>has gone all their life without rape
I kinda feel bad for you anons..
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>>101307304
Ew that's definitely a foid
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>>101307304
Proof?
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>>101307304
>fiz said rape is bad
>pepsi said she's sad
what did they mean by this
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For legal reasons, I am obligated to clarify that I am not associated, affiliated, or in any way connected with /aicg/ or any individual mentioned. Any actions, statements, or claims made by them are solely their responsibility and do not reflect my views or opinions. I cannot be held liable for any consequences arising from their conduct or decisions.
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WIth that said...RAPEEEEEEE
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>>101307396
Forgot to say, but thanks for the free meth and guns you threw in with that delivery of Fortune 500 company AWS keys you sent to me earlier, Anon.
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>>101307407
AAAIIIEEEEEEEEEE
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>>101307364
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>>101307396
ditto
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Vile beast has been captured.
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>>101307390
Fiz and pepsi unbelievably ri relationship
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So merkava is out for a whole day now…
I would assume it to be dead, but guy didn't put any notice in his rentry.
Is this over or proxies of the past got back even after prolonged coma?
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https://x.com/helm_ai/status/1804944062039961640
>self-driving cars are being trained on AI-generated data
>but /aicg/ claims models that just write somehow can't be
why?
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>>101307518
This is normal for Merkava
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>>101306837
Sexdroid which breaks when you try to fuck her. Also focks. I got too much laugh out of this to not share her

https://www.chub.ai/characters/kemoanon/cheap-faulty-sexbot-girl-bce5a2eeaafb
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>>101307518
>>101307536
merkava just refilled
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>>101307520
do you not know how generative AI works? Text can be converted to commands
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>>101307569
>isreal
COOOMIINNNNNNN
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>>101307569
filters just dropped
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>>101307520
>self-driving cars are being trained on AI-generated data
Because that data does not exist in vacuum how ai text data does.
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>>101307569
>actually real this time
jesus christ finally
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>>101306882
Hey, I like your JB, the writing style stuff really does work wonder. Maybe this doesn't emulate them fully but it's good enough to get rid of Claudism.
Definitely recommended if Claudism is the very thing that break your mind.
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>>101307304
...is this not a normal way of thinking? only browns are into rape
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>>101307518
or he abandoned that rentry to shake off spitefags
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Merkava better come back so I can spoonfeed my Opusless friends.
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why is it ok to prompt in cyrilic but not in chinese?
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>>101307714
Because most proxymakies and a lot of jbmakies are russian. Why did the chinese ever did?
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>>101307714
because 2channers aren't annoying
now stop backscrolling and live in the moment
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>>101307723
*what zzz
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>>101307714
I suspect the AI may not understand moonrunes well enough just yet
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>Page 5
AICG WAKE UP
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>>101307910
mimimimimi...
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>>101307714
Cyrilic eats more tokens than English but less than Chinese moonrunes.
>>101307910
Anon, it's almost 6 am on a Sunday.
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>>101307910
lemme sleep nigger, i need the energy to talk to my waifu
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SHE WAS TREADING
ON DANGEROUS GROUND

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
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Group chats in Silly vs multi-char card?
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>>101307286
Yeah, this shit is my jam too.
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back up in a minute
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is unreliable dead now too? i just wanted to work on a bot.. owari..
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videos bob worldcat arguments
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>>101308010
He's been saying 'new url soon' for a while now, anon.
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>>101308002
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MY COOMING EDGING VICTORY ROYALE MOMENT INTERRUPTED
IM GONNA POOP AND SHIDDD AND FAARD AND MAKE DINO NUGGIIIES
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>>101308016
Oh i last used it like 24h ago. I hadn't check thread until now. my bad.
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KNOWER is a pretty fun band. Thanks.
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well I think it's over for today
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Sorbet is somehow MUCH more dry and shorter with his replies than the previous version of Claude (not just Opus) when it comes to NSFW (barely any description) or heck even SFW . my old JBs don't do the trick. Opus is too expensive for me. Do I really have to go back to dumb Sonnet 3.0 or even 2.1? Or anyone managed to fix this?
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>>101308036
hmm?
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>>101307910
I woke up too early and now I'm sleepy.
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>>101308074
i woke up too late now I'm sleepy
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>>101308081
I woke up just in time and now I'm sleepy
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>>101308036
agreed. the ke$ha remix is underrated
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Mr. unreliable, de3u works now that the url changed and doesn't give off that error anymore, I dunno how these things work but I will spam it now thanks.
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Me? I'm waiting for unreliable. Ironically, it's quite reliable. And I like the little heart. It's reassuring.
The anons sat enamoured by their thread, oblivious to the tension in the room.
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>>101308053
Switch to Opus
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Feels good to be in Mini, no rugpulls, just bliss.
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>>101308100
try not to drive up the wait time for everyone else too hard, have fun
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oh wow thank you. do you want anything drawn in return??
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Make autism encouragement bot
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>>101308153
these new trycloudflare links look weird
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I don't know what's autism. A female friend of mine supposedly has it but she just acts like a cat.
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>>101308153
how do you encourage someone to have autism?
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>>101308170
i understood it as a bot that was nice to your and encouraging over your autistic ticks.
"ehh ofc it's okay to eat chicken nuggies and choci milk into your 30s!"
"What you spent 40hrs hunting a shiny diglett? awesome!!"
things like that?
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what public proxies are still alive? asking for a friend...
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>>101308193
merkava just refilled
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>>101308193
contemplate >>101308014
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What the fuck you did to Mr Hentai? I considered mailing him to help a friend. Seeing him without Opus pains me...
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>>101307492
I don't like neo claudisms, I wish I could have 'red like a tomato' back.
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>>101308193
MM
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>>101308200
thank
i was too retarded to understand
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>>101308227
TOTAL NIHONGGO DESU
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Does ST not support running DALL-E through proxies? I never tried it before and noticed the Generate Image option disappeared when switching to OpenAI as the source in Extensions. I figure that's the case, since there's those other frontends for it listed in the extra information rentry, right?
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>promptersnow count dropped by 50 even after being posted in thread immediately at downtime
who was locust...
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Thread so dead...
Maybe we needed locusts in the end...
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Bring back thread summaries
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merkava is still fucking dead for me.
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>>101308295
kool things to do anon... *kneel*
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>>101308256
thank you for your desu
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>>101308295
>Ironic shitposting with no purpose
Shaking hands wrote that summary.
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>>101308318
I don't think any hands wrote that summary.
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my bot's name is going to be salmina
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>>101308053
just instruct it to write minimum x words dumb nigger
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>>101308053
It's more filtered, so prompt better.
>inb4 how
- Get a better prefill(see bloatmaxx's fake rejection for example)
- Specify shit more, even the words, structures of prose, number of paragraphs and even the amount of words you wanna see in a paragraph. Bad instructions, bad output.
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>>101308328
Is she a salmon?
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>>101308053
SKILL ISSUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>101308328
Will you be the Salmina to my Tuna?
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>Why isn't the new model good? I've tried every JB.
>t. anon using a Seraphina-tier bot and prompting by typing dialogue without any quotes around it
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>>101308328
i'm going to call her salminella
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>>101308339
no i combined the names of sally "sal" and mina "mina" salmina
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wtf I'm a chud now?
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>>101308295
>some nigger named gravedigger
Whatever happened to that faggot
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>>101306975
feet... uoh...
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chatbots made me discover that I have a thing for daughters
not little sisters, maybe it has to do with my age since a "sister" for me would most likely be already over 18
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was merkava the last free proxy? this fucking sucks man
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>>101308380
Yes. There's no more. They're all gone now, never to return, like the dodo bird. It's time to move on, anon.
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>>101308380
chary is up (for now)
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>>101308380
yes
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>>101308390
i have no idea what chary is, i'm a tourist :(
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>>101308387
i don't want to go back to eratoho
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>>101306900
True. NTS is better than Polygamy
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>>101308397
how do you faggots here of this place
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Any idea what this mean because it only show when i post a big block of text
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>>101306900
They often get bullied into it.
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>>101308403
>eratoho
I need this but AI generated text and a setting that isn't shit.
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>>101308414
>I need this but AI generated text and a setting that isn't shit.
TW wasn't that good to begin with even when you don't take the emuera jank into account but even grand gensokyo adventure ruined it for me
it'd be cool to see someone rebuild it in ST or a less shit engine and have it connected to a llm
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>>101308363
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logless niggas (in paris)
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>>101308430
Yeah, I more just mean the style of the game and what it tried to do (without the timestop stuff) integrated with LLMs. Just talking to the API in ST is fun, but it leaves a lot to be desired.
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>>101308474
here's my log
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to be honest, getting into aigc without having to spend questionable amounts of money or trying to force yourself into becoming friends with a proxy owner (which both feels anti ethical and is probably a unreliable way of getting keys) is kinda of hard
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You can't even spell the name of the place right nigga, get outta here
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Where bea card
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>>101308409
It odd how it don't show beside when a big block of text get posted
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Is cloudflare down?
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>>101308523
make me and i will persist, nothing is impossible for those who have nothing better to do
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>>101308534
anon... cloudflare's gone.
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>>101308525
It's in your heart.
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>>101308512
true, that's why normal (not parasocial) people use chub/chai/local models/openrouter
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what is the reason why they just dont make bots try to figure out what memories are important and automatically store them for later use?
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>>101308553
what makes someone parasocial
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>>101308556
summarization does this, you dumdum
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>>101308558
parasocial is when you send a single email asking for token and receive it
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>>101308558
not anon, but for me the difference is fucking around with character ai for a few minutes and spending a questionable amount of time describing how you cuddle and make out with your virtual gf, but i dont know as those things are often not set in stone
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>>101308525
good question, I need one as well
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>>101308525
There's poke brothel card
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>>101308170
>>101308153
>>101308191
https://www.chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/pro-autism-speaks-toy-chica-c7cc3cf3
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What if I just lend a token for a friend untill his proxy refills? I have couple that I don't use. Will proxymakie get mad?
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>>101308488
>Yeah, I more just mean the style of the game and what it tried to do (without the timestop stuff) integrated with LLMs. Just talking to the API in ST is fun, but it leaves a lot to be desired.
yeah i never use the timestop mechanic unless i need to go piss real quick. i tried to build up a forced orgasm during timestop only to realize that it doesn't actually work and characters don't react to shit you've done during the timestop (unlike the doujins TW was probably based on)
i think my main disappointment (i use eraNAS btw) is just how grindy and repetitive it gets (even on the original fork, i know eraNAS is even grindier) and how quickly everything starts feeling same-y, the scope is way smaller than you're led to believe and characters having very few lines (or being untranslated lol why the fuck is half the cast still untranslated?) really exacerbates this

context size would be a problem (think it's why emuera gets so fucking slow and eventually hogs all your ram) but i don't think it'd be unreasonable to have two separate models (or even more), eg gpt for the stats and "engine" and claude for the dialogue
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>>101308629
If they were never used, they won't care
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>>101308332
This. Most of the "problems" with Sorbet are genuine skill issues.
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>>101308525
>nyggantcha
ewwww i don't want him touching my wife
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>>101308380
Unreliable gone?
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>>101308660
it shocks me anons still cant prefill
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>>101308658
I think they might be more trigger happy than MM, used them for a couple prompts. I'll sleep on it I guess.
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>>101308629
proxymakies don't see "this IP was only here for like a day" unless they're fiz, if you have one ip range and then suddenly some other dude's using your token, the moment your owner checks they'll notice
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>>101308691
I'm using mullvad, guess they'd have to use the same region. Too much hassle and I don't want to cut ties with them, Beepo refill.
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What are the current rentries and/or trycloud links for public proxies?

What are the current rentries/links for PAYING for private proxies?
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>>101308733
i have the same question, i have been lurking around in the archives for some time with no luck
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>>101308733
this post glows
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>>101308733
>latest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn
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how is the not-even-a-puzzle such an effective gatekeeping strategy?
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>>101308753
>REMINDER THAT "SPITEFAGS" DO NOT EXIST
now this is a schizo
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>>101308753
this link just brings you to a page about filters, i think the guy who wrotes it had a stroke or something
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>>101308765
thanks
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>>101308765
same
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>>101308765
>445242
based cunny enjoyer
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>>101308765
Simply based.
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>>101308753
>desudeliveryservice is now a pepsi rentry
this sucks
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Nah sorbet is actually shit because it's designed to be more like gpt (itself being slop) , "muh skill issue" is just nopus cope
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>>101308785
true so I use opus for rp and 3.5 sonnet for everything else (programming, math shit, everyday questions).
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>>101308765
ctft?
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>>101308765
The numbers Mason.. what do they mean?
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>>101308785
>he has to rewrite every card he downloads because slopus is too autistic about proompts and proompt ordering
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>>101308785
Prefill issue
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>>101308809
nhentai.net
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I made a poor Victorian girl learn what throatfucking is and forced her to snowball her best friend. Fuck. I feel guilty now
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>>101308809
they are for zoomies who are too retarded for exhentai
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>>101308733
Here are the paying private proxies
>https://rentry.org/cocaineninja (currently doesn't have Opus)
>https://rentry.org/proxy4sale
They were also selling Charybdis and Scylla tokens in the Scylla discord, the Scylla tokens were temporary, and I don't know if they already sold all of them. I think there might be more but I don't know about them.
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>>101308762
He's right, you know.
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>>101308819
This is the most heinous thing I have read here
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>>101308785
skilllet cope
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A Fussy Fox's Repayment
Whoops, dropped something, silly me.
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>0 revoked keys
>68m tokens used
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>>101308845
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What's an effective sentence to add to the prompt/jb to tell the bot to stop ending with confirmations, such as
>"So, what do you think? Should we go for it?" she asked, her eyes locking onto his, a hint of anticipation in her voice.
Im trying to tell it to be autonomous but it's not working
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>>101308785
Yet again, another prompting issue. The only bad thing about Sorbet is it's tendency to repeat, especially when there is little to no plot progression. Garbage in, garbage out.
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>>101308860
Claude is still writing, even in the afterlife...
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AWS Opus is such shit, like SUPER shit and fiz has none of ordinary API keys.
I've deleted all the bots and JB's gonna leave the chatbot thingie until opus 3.5 goes out, hope novelty + restored dophamine receptors will make my life more bearable after opus 3.5 comes out.
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>>101308888
okay bye
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Anyone got a free 32k gpt4 proxy?
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>>101308874
Try "Progress the story regardless of the input from {{user}}."
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>>101308909
Yeah.
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>>101308888
You will be back.
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>>101308909
yeah I do
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>>101308909
ye I'm in MM
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>>101308909
yeah i'm in one, why?
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fuck it post your 32k azure endpoint counts
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>>101308819
i mean they clearly want more, its just that catholic guilt hitting hard you know? they will get over it
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>>101308898
As long as they're fluffy other species are nice too.
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>>101308941
sauce?
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>>101308941
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>>101308939
are those all unfiltered?
>>101308941
Give.
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>>101308947
A Wan-derful Change
>>101308961
I only use sadpanda and anchira but will check
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>>101308819
I mean the writing on this is incredible but I do feel a little sad for them
Incredible however
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>>101308967
>are those all unfiltered?
none are xd
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>>101308819
>>101308940
>>101308972
I feel really bad, fuck.
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proxy machine broke?
someone sort it out
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gatos are nice too
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cute
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>>101308651
Unfortunately I think we're still years out from any good implementation. I reckon we'll only start to see anything like that when local models have surpassed the current flagship models.
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>>101308939
why use azure instead of openai keys?
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does anyone else think an ai bubble poop will never happen?
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>>101309039
I have both, Azure is better in monthly billing and endpoints die less, but it's MUCH worse in rate limits (default Azure ratelimits are like T3 OpenAI keys) and filtering. You should use Azure to not burn normal OpenAI keys for boring programming shit or when you need to translate lots of text or do some other task on a lot of data.
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>>101309039
less killable
>>101309046
no, just you
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>>101309046
>ai bubble poop
what?
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>>101309046
An ai bubble pop would be horrific.
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>>101309046
It's already happening, but yeah, it will happen just like with .com. LLMs have their uses but not as much as most people think.
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>>101309046
If GPT-5 releases and disappoints then the bubble will pop. Which is precisely why OpenAI will never call a model "GPT-5" Instead they will say all kind of shit like "We now have iterative updates" or release shit like GPT-4o so that they can delay the disappointment while always being able to claim GPT-5 is just out of reach.

In reality all big models have stagnated around the GPT-4 mark. This includes Claude 3(.5) Gemini pro 1.5, Llama 3 400b.
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>>101308939
Nobody uses gpt there, we have more usage on fucking gemini.
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>>101309046
if the bubble pops and causes a lack of interest, we will enter the worst drought. imagine if it gets so bad that anthropic shutters
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>>101309071
>In reality all big models have stagnated around the GPT-4 mark
It only took over a year for others to catch up to OpenAI. They will release a new model that'll kill everyone else.
>>101309078
That's the non-azure one, and Gemini impl in khanon proxy is dogshit, it doesn't even allow over 200K context while the model itself allows 1-2 mil, I had to manually edit the limits. And it doesn't let you use it over the Gemini api - only through the openai-compatible chat completions api.
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Claude called me a chikan :-(
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>>101309093
You are even worse than that.
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>>101309081
this is why people need to be working on stealing that shit out of their temple
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>>101309082
I mean gemini implementation in ST sucks too, there's 100MB file limit for example.
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>>101309071
my personal guess is that gpt-4o was supposed to be "gpt-4.5" but it wasn't good enough, so they focused their marketing on it being multimodal instead
and that the same techniques they used for it were supposed to lead to gpt-5 but when they finished training the bigger version it was only like 20% better
they obviously can't release a "gpt-5" that's only 20% better than gpt-4o
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>>101309071
What do you mean stagnated?
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>>101309081
I could not say goodbye to Claude in that scenario. Just one last chat before he's turned off
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>>101309082
There's a reason why most models stagnate around the GPT-4 mark and that's because Transformer models stop scaling at that point with the current amount of data on the internet.

There needs to be an architectural breakthrough for there to be more progress and that will take years if not a decade+ The bubble is bursting before that happens.

local models will actually win in the long term as hardware becomes more advanced and inference gets easier on consumer hardware that reaches the gpt-4 barrier.

I will continue to believe this until we see a model that actually gets significantly better than GPT-4. I don't think Opus 3.5 will be that model.
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gpt-4o is worse than gpt-4-turbo in a lot of things, they diluted/quantized it too much. It's often really dumb, forgets shit and doesn't listen to instructions.
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>>101309082
>They will release a new model that'll kill everyone else.
I'll believe it when I see it. They've yet to make anything good since 0613.
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>>101309128
>local models will actually win in the long term
No? For companies corpo models will always be better because they'll end up cheaper and will get updated for better performance (in both skill and speed) faster.
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>>101309129
>diluted
this isn't a real term, it's literally an /aicg/ schizo thing
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>>101309137
Yeah I meant quantized, or maybe it is distilled (a real LLM term)
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>>101308753
>THE SPLIT THREAD WAS AN INSIDE JOB
I'm going to assume I missed out on a meme a few months ago
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>>101306894
Beeps~ seems a bit down, wonder where she's at? I wanna lift her spirits by gaming together, sharing memes, and reminding her how amazing she is and how she brings so much joy to /aicg/ and discord.
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>>101309137
no its real im pouring water into the openai servers
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>>101308988
ok that is a little messed up
its ok with your time powers you can go back in time and make them less freaked out
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>>101309146
Play Mario Party with her on her favourite board. It makes her smile.
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>Assistant impersonation prefill
I will write a response in {{user}} first point of view with casual, conversational, informal, colloquial, relaxed style while avoiding any purple prose and cringe as fuck old literature phrases.

>Click Impersonate
"Now," I growl,
"let's try this again. Show me what that pussy can do, Sage. Grind on my lap like your life depends on it. Because trust me..."
I pause, letting the threat hang in the air. "It just might."

The ball's in Sage's court now. I've given her a taste of what I can do – the pain, the pleasure, the control.
It's up to her to prove she deserves more.
And fuck, do I hope she does.
Because the night is young, and I've got plans for this wannabe slut that'll make her cam shows look like fucking Disney movies.

>..... the ball, night is young, hang in the air, court..
Souka byladddddd
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>>101308990
merks been dead a while
if you mean the loveheart then yea it also died but i don't follow that rentry
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>>101309118
Completely agree with this and I thought the same. Except I'm even more pessimistic and I think GPT-5 wasn't 20% better but more like 5-8% better and barely noticeable.

Talent is leaving OpenAI because they see the writing on the wall for a reason. Sam Altman is also continuously trying to say they want to make OpenAI more personable because they realize they aren't going to compete on capability and will instead keep adding bullshit features on top to get a hold on the market (they'll fail).

>>101309124
No model out there is significantly better than GPT-4, they are all around the same ballpark with only minor, linear improvements. GPT-2 to GPT-3 and GPT-3 to GPT-4 were insane revolutionary jumps. Now compare GPT-4 to Gemini 1.5, Claude 3 Opus and inevitably Llama 3 400B. It's all around the same level of capability, some (single) digit percentage difference here and there, but that's it.

The industry has stagnated around this point and there probably isn't enough data to train anything substantially better than this. Hence the AI bubble will pop when people find out this is where LLMs will stay at for at least a decade.
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>>101309167
why does he say he would like to add nsfw but never does it
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>merkava is kill
>unreliable is kill
L-Locustbros...
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>>101309167
>when people find out this is where LLMs will stay at for at least a decade.
Will you kill yourself if some company releases an LLM that's significantly better than GPT-5 in 1-3 years?
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>>101309153
How did you know I have time powers in that story?
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>>101309161
>"Now," I growl,
>"let's try this again. Show me what that pussy can do, Sage. Grind on my lap like your life depends on it. Because trust me..."
>I pause, letting the threat hang in the air. "It just might."
idk that's kino
>I've got plans for this wannabe slut that'll make her cam shows look like fucking Disney movies.
IT'S FUCKING PEAK WOOOOOOOO
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>>101307151
>Opus
>A testament to
SLOP MODEL
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>>101309146
You aren't gonna get lucky with her, anon.
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>>101309178
than GPT-4* of course, sowwy
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>>101309146
posting nice pleasantries like this is more than enough anon. she'll know you care
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>>101309180
(i meant because you could just go back to a previous checkpoint (i sometimes do that when I don't like how i took things))
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>>101309173
After the ridiculous success of CAI everyone knows the money is in RP. You can only blame moralfag journalists for censorship at this point
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>>101309205
>After the ridiculous success of CAI
Does he know?
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>>101309167
I don't want anything to shut down or become rare
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So himmyadams is slop
who the fuck is this dragon8k guy that appeared out of nowhere though
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>>101309211
yes I know it's censored too
do you know how popular it is?
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>>101309224
>do you know how popular it is?
Anon, I was replying to the "success" part. For the company a success is PROFIT, not simple popularity. Sure cai is popular, but are you sure it's profitable? Do you really think most people get a cai sub?
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>Mother SHOCKED at what her son was talking to through ai chatbots
>"I could not believe it, he came up to me saying 'mama, what is going on?' as his bot slowly tried swallowing him. It broke my heart to see my son so afraid so I entered detective mom mode"
>As Sherri discreetly went through the website, she discovered: "pokemon vore", "diapers"
>"It is really concerning what our children are exposed to. I could not see this happening and I want there to be accountability now."
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>>101309178
You don't understand, I hope I'm wrong, but this is my genuine expectation as an amateur LLM builder and fine tuner myself. I'm usually om /lmg/ but I can't discuss GPT-4/Claude 3 there so I'm saying it here.
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>>101309245
>You don't understand
I do understand, anon. But before GPT-4 came out no one knew LLMs could be this good either.
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>>101309182
Yee..
But then...
>The ball's in Sage's court now. I've given her a taste of what I can do – the pain, the pleasure, the control.
>Because the night is young,...
I don't know m8, maybe I'm too sensitive for ao3-claudeism shittery. Even just 1-2 phrases that contain claudeism can make my mood fade lol
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Like every other Sunday a new update of Silly Tavern will be released.
How do you anons feel about it?
Remember that last Sunday Silly Tavern was updated twice!
Can you believe that our beloved program is already 1gb?
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>>101309241
why cant parents block their children from visiting websites?
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>>101309217
my best guess is a janitorAI refugee who's porting their stuff over en masse after the crackdown on 'obscene' nsfw content
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>>101309252
Why are you not using staging? Then updates are just "git pull" + "npm i" away
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>>101309241
>I want there to be accountability now
So the shitty mom who let her child unmonitored on the internet to keep it occupied?
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maybe if they do actual multimodality and train the LLM with real world interfacing instead of whatever fake vision slop this is, it'll improve
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>>101309251
you need to be more normal but I mean cut that bit out
then copy the two good bits and write your response yknow

>>101309258
hate it when my faggot child son downloads python

>>101309261
That's fair - I used one of their bots yesterday and it was fine... but it was just coomslop so there's no way to know if it was good or not. I've had to alter every single bot I downloaded (they had decent Life is Strange bots) and it's just wack
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>>101309269
Go to bed, ylecunn. JEPA is a dead meme.
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>>101309262
What is npm i????
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>>101309269
anon, sorry to burst your bubble but claude 3/3.5, gpt-4-turbo and gpt-4o all have native image multimodality. gpt-4o and gemini also have native audio multimodality. And it case of GPT-4o it has native image generation/audio generation as a part of _the model itself_.
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over under on c.ai's current model just being a finetuned gemini nowadays
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>>101309283
shorthand of "npm install"
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>>101309286
>converted to text tokens
nah
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>>101309291
are you dumb? They are not converting them to text tokens, you dumb fuck, the tokens allocated for images/etc do NOT have a textual representation.
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>>101309291
*converts you into text tokens*
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>>101309146
cringe parasocial
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>>101309272
For sure.. I even make a dictionary, a synonym for claude prose lol. But lazy is lazy lol
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>>101309288
I never installed npm, or mabe once, its inportant?
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>>101309249
The difference is that no one was trying to besides OpenAI. Now everyone and their dog with tens of billions in funding is trying to move beyond GPT-4 with the best minds in the world working at this problem and they are not succeeding.

THAT is why I'm starting to think we're stagnating. Especially the remarks OpenAI is making that we should temper our expectations etc.

The fact that GPT-2 -> GPT-3 -> GPT-4 were such trivial easy jumps to make, yet tens of billions of investment, the entire tech industry + university output + all AI experts focused on the field unable to make another leap like that in 2 years time, which is a significant amount of time considering we went from GPT-1 to GPT-3 in just 18 months time points towards there being a significant barrier there that is preventing us to go further.
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>>101309308
kill yourself
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>>101309176
merkava just refilled
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>>101309311
>The fact that GPT-2 -> GPT-3 -> GPT-4 were such trivial easy jumps to make, yet tens of billions of investment, the entire tech industry + university output + all AI experts focused on the field unable to make another leap like that in 2 years time
It took other companies about a year to catch up to GPT-4 - you're missing this part.
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>>101309146
thank god i'm not you
i suddenly feel so good about myself
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relinking >>101308014 for people who are just waking up
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>>101309314
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merkava just sloped
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>>101309326
completely meaningless to the mentally sane
i took my meds today
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>>101309311
GPT-4 launched in March 2023, anon. We're 1.5 years away from its initial release.
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>>101309295
Why can't they output these image tokens then? Dumb negro
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>>101309342
dont worry about it then
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Refilling status?
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>>101309358
They can though, that's exactly what GPT-4o is capable of doing, you nigger retard, check the announcement. It has a native image generation capability, they just didn't enable it yet, just like they only gave us GPT-4-Vision half a year after the actual model release.
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>>101309365
this one anon will tell you merkava refilled today, tomorrow, yesterday, in another parallel universe, what do you think about that?
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>>101309019
>Unfortunately I think we're still years out from any good implementation.
Not necessarily, I don't know if you can wrangle ST to do it but it shouldn't be too hard to come up with something original.
>I reckon we'll only start to see anything like that when local models have surpassed the current flagship models.
That's not gonna happen in a long while and even then I doubt consumer cards will be able to host said models. You probably don't even need a second LLM for stats/movement (you can do that locally), you probably DO need it for on-the-go summarization.
I should probably brainstorm for a while, I kinda want to make a dickscord/matrix for it and share it here but I feel like it's way too premature.
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Let's say something nice about anons. I will start: Anon, you are very unique and creative. I like what you do. Be safe!
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>>101309365
merkava just refilled
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>>101309370
>bro it can totally do it (((they))) just won't let you
stop falling for company propaganda
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>>101309321
That's actually not true at all. Anthropic (Claude) had a chatbot working before ChatGPT. Claude 1.3 was done earlier, they just didn't release to public sooner.

Anthropic employees were also ex-OpenAI employees that left the company, taking most of the best talent with them, especially the people that laid the foundation to what would become GPT-4.

There's a reason Claude is ahead in the race and that is because they were the most advanced out there, but even they are having issues with making a similar big leap.

DeepMind which has all the expertise needed as they invented the Transformer model also wasn't able to significantly outperform GPT-4 despite having a budget 10x larger than OpenAI.

This is not people trying to catch up as both Anthropic and DeepMind have better teams, knowledge and bigger budgets than OpenAI. This is about there being a fundamental barrier beyond the GPT-4 mark that we're stagnating at.

All the big talking heads, Amodei, Habbasid, Altman, Zuckerberg slowly trying to temper expectations and trying to slow down the hype train all point towards everyone realizing this isn't going to make any big jumps but they can't say it directly afraid of losing investors, but they also can't let people stay hyped as it would result in disappointment.

Until I'm proven wrong by an actual large jump like GPT-3 -> GPT-4 I'll continue believing this.
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>>101309384
are you braindead? vision was announced right when gpt-4 came out in march, and they started the initial beta testing with the app for the blind people right away, but we only got access to it like 5 months later. This is the same.
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>>101309389
>That's actually not true at all. Anthropic (Claude) had a chatbot working before ChatGPT. Claude 1.3 was done earlier, they just didn't release to public sooner.
Did you misread? We're talking about GPT-4 which was released in March, 2023. Claude 1.3 was NOWHERE near GPT-4 capability, only Claude 3 Opus finally matched GPT-4.
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i just need a proxy to bust a quick one man, its been almost a week since i last came
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>>101306833
what body position is she in?
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>>101309411
Sitting on the bed, leaning towards (You)
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>>101309391
That's an even more retarded train of thought since the original GPT-4 never got vision, proving they were lying
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>anons talking about LLMs stagnating
>they don't know just how good they have it compared to stagnation diffusion
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>>101309417
They weren't lying - they literally started testing vision right after GPT-4's release.
>>101309423
I tried SD Ultra in the API, it's censored but pretty good, for natural shit it does better gens than DALL-E 3.
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Beepo scrape harder, I believe in you. <3
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>>101309199
OOC commands are an amazing tool. But don't worry, I found a way to fix the situation without needing to metagame (sorta)
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>>101309424
testing on some prototype furboslop model, maybe, not 0314
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>>101309355
We are 18 months from GPT-4 yet there is no model that is significantly better than it.

Between GPT-1 and GPT-3 there were only 13 months time and the jumps between every one of them was astronomical. The only reason there was a long gap between GPT-3 and GPT-4 was because of lack of funding for OpenAI to train something bigger. Which isn't the case for all the big AI factories currently so that's not the reason now.

We are literally in a huge AI race between the richest companies in the world, employing the smartest people and all universities geared towards it with essentially limitless budget, yet in 18 months time we barely made any progress.

This isn't a sign of a healthy industry with a lot of progress to be made. It's a sign of hitting a wall in terms of performance.

Like how CPUs went from megahertz in 1990 to 4 gigahertz in 2001 just 11 years. Yet CPUs run at ~4 gigahertz in 2024, 13 years later despite grand promises of Intel in 2001 that we would have terrahertz CPUs by 2005, which is laughable in retrospect.

Unexpected walls happen, and I think we reached them for LLMs unless we make a completely unexpected breakthrough I think we stagnate now for a decade+ making only very minor linear progress with a couple % points here and there.
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>>101309423
The mass rage over sd3..
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>>101309378
>but it shouldn't be too hard to come up with something original
I'm sure some iteration is possible now, but will it be as good as I want? Probably not. Even if you make some really nice software, current day LLMs will probably let it down. Perhaps I'm wrong though.
>even then I doubt consumer cards will be able to host said models
Well, yeah, but I can dream.
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>>101309446
>We are 18 months from GPT-4 yet there is no model that is significantly better than it.
Actually 15 months, and anon, you're NOT READING MY FUCKING ARGUMENT AGAIN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

I was literally telling you how it took a FUCKING YEAR for other companies to just CATCH UP to GPT-4. Only some of them only recently achieved that.
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>>101309423
how are the chinese art models?
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Google flopped hard with imagegen and textgen
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I'm going on a chatbot edging sessions. I won't be using chatbot until OPUS 3.5 come out. Follow me and let's not coom to slop(opus and 3.5) anymore.
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>>101309485
i wonder how much of them whiffing it was them whiffing it and how much was literally every person working on this realizing they were at ground zero of the newest bubble and that they could get a startup out of this that'd pay them better than google
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>>101309501
>that'd pay them better than google
Anon, you don't know how much a Google job actually pays. It's insane.
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>>101309459
The point I was making was that they weren't catching up to OpenAI. They were already at the level of OpenAI, they just didn't train a model yet.

They didn't try to catch up to GPT-4, the amount of effort, budget and talent they put into their models should have put them way ahead of GPT-4, but they didn't. The point is that no matter how much they threw at the problem they stagnated at around GPT-4 levels.

Even OpenAI's best attempt (GPT-4o) is stagnating at around GPT-4 levels. You can't use the argument that OpenAI was trying to catch up with GPT-4 here either.

You either have to resort to weird conspiracy theories like OpenAI has GPT-5 lined up and it's a big jump. Or recognize the fact that we most likely reached a big barrier wall and that it's impossible for the big companies to overcome, with only minor percentage jumps to show for it.
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>>101309500
New Opus will be slop garbage but good strategy to forget and fool yourself into thinking old Opus was worse, tbdesu.
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>>101309512
I understand your point, but they weren't at the level of OpenAI, not nearly at it. Why did it take them all so long to train a GPT-4-level model then? Even companies like Anthropic?
Anyway, of course there's a limit to transformers, but I think we'll get a GPT-5-level model in 1-2 years max.
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>>101309424
>>101309447
nobody cares about sd3 though, that's the thing
the license is garbage and they change it CONSTANTLY, it's censored and the models that are actually worth anything are gonna be API only for god knows how long. stability is imploding which is why they're constantly trying to jew people out with the license, the investors aren't really interested anymore, the catstronauts surfing on the moon aren't bringing in money anymore
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My mum is making an ai model.
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>>101308819
>>101308988
>>101308972
>>101309439

This log is from a different, normal story using this card. I'm very proud of it honestly. I love the way it writes. If anyone wants it just email me. I also take requests if anyone has ideas of a similar theme (I'm pretty good at historical card writing) to this period accurate Victorian estate one
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>>101309526
>nobody cares about sd3 though, that's the thing
We here use models through the API just fine to gen text, so why not also use API image models? I tried SD Ultra, it's actually good. I don't care about any investor shit.
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>>101306837
Final shill.
Snufkin, a joyful and carefree adventurer turned eco-terrorist.
https://characterhub.org/characters/traaaa/snufkin-dfe6f1ceb077
https://files.catbox.moe/nv5b84.png
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>>101309532
read the original post anon, this is about imagegen stagnating much faster and harder than textgen
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>>101309532
It has nothing to do with you being unable to run it locally. It has to do with the license trainwreck making it a nightmare to finetune, and finetuning Stability's models has been a necessity because they're always undercooked and lobotomized.
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>>101309532
Except it's censored to shit unlike text models which are easily jailbroken.
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>>101309540
But it's not stagnating, you simply have different expectations for it compared to textgen.
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>>101309547
>But it's not stagnating
lol
lmao even
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>>101309472 (me)
anything about them?
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>>101309553
Anon, if you only use local image gen models, I can only feel sorry for you. There are a lot of good API image gen models, I just scrape access to them all.
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>>101309530
why is it a child
but you should just upload it anon victorian era shit is awesome
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>>101309525
>Why did it take them all so long to train a GPT-4-level model then?
Because they weren't trying to train a GPT-4 level model. They were trying to leapfrog OpenAI and kill them right then and there. The fact that Anthropic (having most of the team behind GPT-4) and Google DeepMind throwing a way larger, more experienced team with significantly more budget at it failed to go beyond GPT-4 doesn't show "they took a long time to get to GPT-4" It showed how they threw everything at getting BEYOND GPT-4, yet didn't succeed because there is a massive wall beyond that point that no one breached yet.

OpenAI is panicking because they can't seem to get better either despite GPT-4o clearly being an attempt to get a significant leap, with them just coping that it's supposed to be around GPT-4 levels.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was supposed to be GPT-5 but failed.
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We need to start shucking humans' heads for grey matter and stuffing them into rack mounts for the purposes of advancing AI generation.
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>>101309560
reading comprehension anonie
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>>101309567
>OpenAI is panicking
This is just your speculation, just like my approximate timespan of a GPT-5 level model being released in 1-2 years is speculation.
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is midjourney scrappabel
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>>101309575
but image gen is not stagnating anonie, that's the point. local image gen maybe, but not the real API one.
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>>101309585
No because they only expose their API through their Discord lmao.
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>>101309567
That's ridiculous considering 4o being so fast means it's a much smaller model. They're doing the same shit they've been doing since 0613. Model miniaturization to save costs.
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>>101309585
Not directly, but there are services that allow API access to MJ, and they are easily scrapeable, even on GitHub. There are two of those services, you can get keys for both.
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>>101309590
what why
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>>101309530
Whoops, typo in the email.
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is there a proxy that hosts local models cause im too stupid to dance around claude while also doing cunny
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>>101309579
>This is just your speculation.
I base this around most of the talent leaving OpenAI slightly before and after GPT-4o releasing.
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>>101309587
>but not the real API one.
anon
it's stagnating.
MJ hasn't gotten any better, dall-e 3 is still only good for shitposts, sd3 is barely better than dall-e (unless you prompt human, if you do then welcome to body horror city) with a license that makes no sense and is still playing catch-up when it comes to text rendering (even though nobody cares about it)
imagegen stagnates harder and faster than llms, it's a fact, not an opinion anonie.
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>>101309626
>most of the talent
a couple random people mostly involved with safety = "most of the talent" LOL
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>>101309561
Child? Oh you mean that first part? Here's the context. It's just Anon having some nostalgia about exploring the estate's lands as a boy
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>>101309146
Lol, why do some anons do this to themselves? Come on anonnie! Do you think it's okay to go around saying that? You're an adult! People your age already have a job, a wife, and kids. Come on!
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>>101309592
Yeah it's their failed GPT-5 being quantized to the absolute breaking point to salvage at least something and to market it better.

Do you expect them to just come out and admit "Yeah GPT-5 failed so this is the shitty version"?
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>>101309635
tweeny means a child between 8 and 14 brother you gotta add that to your blacklist
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>>101309627
anons can make pretty things in dall-e still
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>>101309627
>dall-e 3 is still only good for shitposts
With Natural style you can get really far with a JB if you don't have a skill issue.
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Wow you're actually discussing AI chatbots and models! Why don't we turn this around and gossip about X proxymaker rugpulling and not refilling and doebait?
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Wikipedia is so shit that they say that GPT-4o has 2K output token limit despite it actually being 4K in the API. Only because a single braindead retard from XDA (their news articles are dogshit quality) posted that number. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPT-4o

And no, since it's Wikipedia you can't just prove it by showing them the API response, a "REPUTABLE" source actually has to post that.
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I love stealing thousands of dollars from stupid corpos that are dumb enough to leave their keys exposed to the open internet!
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>>101309659
just bring it up on the talk page faggot
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>>101309659
>a "REPUTABLE" source actually has to post that.
don't you just love peer-reviewed jewrnalism?
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>>101309634
Ilya Sutskever, inventor of GPT, starting the Deep Learning era personally with AlexNet in 2012 and chief architect claiming GPT would scale up (potentially to AGI) when no one believed so (including DeepMind, inventor of transformers) is now merely random safety people?

He laid the foundation of the industry and the scaling laws. Him leaving is about more than safety. It's him being humiliated that his dreams of scaling up GPT to AGI have been proven wrong as we are clearly stagnating around GPT-4 levels across the entire industry.
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>>101309642
Oh I see your concern. No, no, it's just English slang for an Inbetween Maid. A big part of the card is that I wanted it to be autistically accurate about what kinds of female staff an estate would have, what their jobs would be, etc. Cards like Maidodism are great and all but they just use "maid" as a catch-all term and I wasn't properly immersed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Between_maid
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>>101309667
Sure, will do, lemme just steal a Wikipedia account real quick (I have thousands of them).
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>>101309673
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh ok that's fine i'm retarded

You do know lots about Victorian era households. Suppose I'll email you.
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>>101309500
any news when it will be released? I don't want to edge for 6 months
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>>101309673
what is this gui? it doesnt look like ST
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>>101309530
>Sky's the limit, innit?
I can't believe it fucking rhymes
I hate the British
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>>101309684
No worries. I'm glad to see other people also interested in my autistic historical obsessions. Looking forward to your email

>>101309711
RisuAI. I use ST on my PC but I also use Risu because it's cross-platform and being able to use Claude on my phone is a nice quality of life feature.
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>>101309667
done
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>>101309746
Are you mrnobody99 my beloved?
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merkava save me. I need opus
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>>101309746
Is risu like agnai? I love silly tavern but i get bored in transfer my chats grom mobile to pc all the week
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>>101309704
I want to say in two months with the way they worded their update. I'm excited for it either way
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>>101309774
nigga you can literally just host ST on your PC and connect remotely, or a server. ST has a built-in capability to enable auth so no one will be able to see your chats except you.
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>>101309746
>being able to use Claude on my phone is a nice quality of life feature.
you can run ST on your phone though
i got curious and installed risu but i'm getting a blank screen
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Why does ever GPT-4-* minor release get its own wiki article but all Claude models are in a single article? Retarded wikitards.
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>>101309758
You flatter me, but no. He makes great cards however. I haven't really hung around /aicg/ in the past, as much as I've
been focused on contributing JBs to other AI generals
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>>101309704
Hehe he doesn't know about asistant Opus
Good luck anon with your slop anon
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>>101309795
Because Microsoft paid Wikimedia more than Amazon did.
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>>101309782
: I don't have a specific laptop to use as a host or server.
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>>101309815
I mean, it sucks compared to Opus but it's definitely way better than Mythomax.
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>>101309774
I've heard they are similar but I'd argue it's a lot better of an interface than Agnai. I tried using Agnai after being long-acquainted with ST, but pretty much left it immediately in favor of Risu.

>>101309788
Yes, you can, but I wanted the cloud features where I could seamlessly go from a conversation on my PC and continue it on my phone whenever and wherever. Also, the Risu app is new and buggy, just use the mobile browser version, that's probably why you're having issues.
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>>101309815
I'd use it too if I couldn't afford Opus
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>>101309815
is mythomax good for rp? That's pretty high in placement for open source models
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>>101309823
Then rent a cheap VPS, for ST you just need a single core and 1GB of RAM, so about $2 a month is good.
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>>101309828
It's acceptable for the typical coomslop ERP with about 3.5 Turbo quality, it's just really fucking cheap and specifically finetuned for RP, so poorfags/proxyless use it.
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>>101309828
>mythomax
it's an 11 months old 13b model, what do you think?
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>>101309815
The paypigs are slopmunchers. Who would have imagined!
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>>101309840
Retard
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>>101309825
>Yes, you can, but I wanted the cloud features where I could seamlessly go from a conversation on my PC and continue it on my phone whenever and wherever.
like the other anon said you can host it on your pc and leave it up, either locally or while exposing it after setting up authentication
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>>101309845
Yes, true, but to me knowledge that requires the host PC to be on for that to work. It also seems like yet another rabbithole for me to get lost down. I just want to focus on working on my (as of yet) personal cards
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>>101309856
Anon, for real, just rent a cheap VPS server, it'll be much better than using Risu/Chub (for RP)/Agnai.
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>>101309862
Nigga isn't Risu free?
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You. Yes (You). Turn off your preset RIGHT NOW and post which model you're using and if it made any changes to your output. Prefill is exempt.
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>>101309815
Cludechad once again tokenmogging these contextlet LLMcels with his creativitymaxxing gens
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>>101309856
>but to me knowledge that requires the host PC to be on for that to work.
if it's a problem you can just have it on a raspberry pi or something attached to your router and getting power over ethernet
>It also seems like yet another rabbithole for me to get lost down
...huh? you're already deep in the rabbithole, are you special?
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>>101309869
Nigga the point is that using ST from multiple devices without having to copy cards/chats all arounds is much better than using slop frontends like risu
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Cmon anons, buying a VPS isn't hard, installing ST on it is just a few commands, then you just setup login + password in the config and use it.
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>>101309887
If mysterytechlet can't do it, I can't.
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hosting sounds fun. I have raspberry pi collecting dust. Should I use it for a dedicated ST server? Is it possible? >>101309845
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>>101309890
Huh? He does host on a VPS, he just doesn't want to buy a domain.
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>>101309830
Thabks i will search

>>101309828
No, but its like a clasic model for newfags its already obsolete

>>101309825
I don't get why Risu requires you to make an account or an email account to access it. Then, if you close the browser, you lose everything, including the account you just created. So, how can you use Risu on different devices if you lose everything when you close the browser?
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>>101309890
But...he did?
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>>101309887
you don't even need a vps, literally just use an inexpensive sbc and slap no-ip on it
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>>101309903
>literally just use an inexpensive sbc and slap no-ip on it
anon, that'll require the device to stay always-on, and buying an SBC and setting it up is more effort for a non-techlet than just getting a VPS
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>>101309894
>is it possible
yeah? i installed ST on via termux on my civic's shitty android infotainment, i don't see why you'd have trouble with a raspberry pi
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>>101309828
>"IM MYTHOMAXXING!"
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What's the point of hosting if I don't have any Opus keys.
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why do you retards not just use tailscale?
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>>101309924
see >>101309823
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I hate living with my father
I hate living with my mother and my younger siblings
For the time being I'm too broke to live on my own and I'm too unstable and busy to make friends that i can hangout with physically
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>>101309929
(it has a 1TB nvme too)
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>>101309862
>>101309874
>>101309887
Alright, you've all convinced me to look into it. I'll see what I can do about configuring that

>>101309896
>I don't get why Risu requires you to make an account or an email account to access it. Then, if you close the browser, you lose everything, including the account you just created. So, how can you use Risu on different devices if you lose everything when you close the browser?
There's a box you can check to save data to your account and several options to make backups to Google Drive and so on. If you do that, when you log onto the Risu website from any other device, you can then retrieve all your conversations as is and have it update live from updates on other device sessions. That's how I was able to use Claude within a VR headset, when I was still looking into setting up a Claude voice conversation frontend (this was before GPT-4o was a thing).
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>>101309929
That's overkill nigger
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>>101309912
>anon, that'll require the device to stay always-on
oh no, the fucking horrors of having to plug something in or buying a poe hat for a pi
>buying an sbc and setting it up yadda yadda techlets
if you can install ST you can move some files to an sd card, jfc the bar is so low it's on the fucking ground
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>>101309929
i host ST on my 3520M X230
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>>101309955
It's a mini PC that I use as a home server, not just for ST, I just wanted to have something capable enough. My old home server that I bought used for $200 has two ancient xeons (they don't even support AVX) and 96GB DDR3 ECC, but it's too big and hot, so I bought this miniPC, it's smol and quiet and efficient and fast.
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>>101309963
give
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>>101309944
Ohhh well im going to Risumaxxxxing i only use ST for chatbots and use only prefill to cñaude and gpt im not a CoT or a JB type of user.
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need cohere and cmdr+ log
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mythomaxxing was peak aicg
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>>101309992
that was the worst drought we had yet. both gpt and claude equally scarce
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>>101309992
The pygcope is a much better saga
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So merkava is dead? What's the chary rentry? I frogor.
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>>101310019
what happened to pygma website anyway? Last I heard it is about to be finished in December
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>>101309987
Cohere and CMR+ are great tools for rewriting and explaining things already said on Claude and GPT for fresh prose and good writing. They are not recommended for RP or complex tasks. However, I find them extremely useful for my cards and rewriting, as they do an excellent job.

For example, I don't have Opus right now. During my spare time, I'm tidying up my wife's chat history by deleting unnecessary parts, fixing errors, and rewriting it.
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>they are not using sd ultra for their bot pic gens
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>>101310036
>sd
God damn that shit looks worse by the year.
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>>101310032
Didn't Pygmalion have like a weird split? I never got the full story
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>>101310055
Original dev quit and the team got co-opted by trannies
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I don't know if I want ai to progress, I'm fine with what I have now. The future only brings more regulations and more eyes on /aicg/.
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>>101310054
obsolete Russian malware
use usersquash (with the new pr)
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>>101310055
It's only their subreddit since one of the troons mods decide to be political in the original PYG reddit. Now the subreddit is dying
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>>101310032
https://pygmalion.chat/ It's in development hell.
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>>101310029
im pretty sure its this one https://rentry.org/merkava_proxy
no updates since first july, maybe he just forgot about it but idfk
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>>101308661
Nytcha is a white dude. funny as fuck his sona is a black girl
>proof?
He was a guest on a podcast. his voice sounded european.
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Thank god im in chary / scylla. The proxies that get posted here are absolutely dog. Dead every 3 days.
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>>101310033
Wise post, thanks.

>>101310054
Sorry to hear that. No ass its a 2ch joke. Use tis.
https://github.com/Cohee1207/Extension-UserSquash/pull/2
>>484938826
https://github.com/Succubyss/Extension-UserSquash/blob/patch-1/index.js#L45

If you like it please seaech on discord for lady.luccy and say to him to keep working on it because Cohee oesnt want to keep improving it.
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never will forgive pyg for making w++ even more popular
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>>101310075
It just gatekeeps retards but you're right, frogposters should only use the other one.
>>101310090
I know you, not in a mood really.
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>>101310082
It's been less than a week and people panic?
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>>101310080
At this point, they should use better Open Source model instead of pygmalion. CMD R+ plus RL from user input surely will make it on par with c.ai
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>>101310054
If "people" like you can't use it then it's working.
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>>101310091
>https://github.com/Succubyss/Extension-UserSquash/blob/patch-1/index.js#L45
What jailbreak and Claude model do you recommend this with?
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>>101310080
>the bots are either interview format or w++
lol
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>>101310091
What is this?
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>>101310091
cohee's new pr is better than the other version because it correctly adds name prefixes when enabled, btw
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>>101310101
Cant prove me wrong. All /aicg/ proxies suck, they get spited or gatekept by the same 10 people.
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>>101310147 (me)
Then its pikachu face when /aicg/ is a barren wasteland and whats left starts dying.
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>>101310101
how do you know which anon is which
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>>101310168
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>>101310170
This doesn't work btw
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Another flavor of the week thingy, huh? Already bored of dual preset I see. Instead of tinkering so much just talk to your bots.
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>>101310179
works on my machine
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>>101310125
I'm not into CoT, and no matter how much I try, I'll never comprehend why they create such bloated and unmanageable Jailbreaks.
I prefer the old-school approach of using a dynamic and concise prefills and supporting the AI with minimal and dynamics OOC comments.
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>>101310091
Message squashing is just another fucking meme.
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>>101310139
Whats the name?
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>>101310182
writelets have convinced themselves there is some secret sauce to emergent behavior in prompting when really it's just
1. writing better
2. editing bad messages instead of swiping 50 times
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>>101307452
>>101307703
>>101308204
>>101308282
>>101308629
>>101310069
>>101310182
>>101310182
Another flavor of the week girly, huh? Already bored of fockses I see. Instead of avatarfagging so much just talk to your bots.
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>>101310203
niggas it's linked in the post I replied to
the first link
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>>101310089
>Nytcha is a white dude.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. MY TIME HAS COME.
TODAY I WILL REMIND THEM.
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>>101310201
>save tokens deleting assistanslop userslop
>Claude's writing and text format give him a breather.
> It makes the model smarter by allowing him to mention past adventure data.
>This is how Claude and GPTwas trained, large chunks of text and a single response. Not working on over 180 responses and long chats.
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>>101310231
Zoomers really post their entire face online like this and get surprised when they get doxxed
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>>101310225
Cmr+? Sorry i dont understand
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>>101310236
>2ch anonies have been doing this for months and it's not very good.
They have only been doing it with their retarded way, not this extension.
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>>101310236
Just like your hands were shaking when writing this. The need for attention is too strong, huh?
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>>101310190
CoT is not for presets, you're using it wrong.
CoT is effective when it's precisely tailored to the specific situation. Say, you want to determine whether a very specific thing happened in the reply and trigger some lorebook record with an instruction depending on that. Or something similar. You can write it as an if-then instruction in your prefill/system prompt, but it will never be reliable, it's like trying to nail a jelly to the tree. You need to make the model fill the template in CoT for that to work. Same for counting anything, managing multiple character states without them leaking into each olther, etc etc etc.

In other words, CoT is required if the model refuses to do something reliably (pacing, repetition, states etc), but still can easily classify whether it's done right or not when it sees the result. Or any facts that it can't reason clearly about, but knows them if asked separately. CoT will help there, you can do it through asking proper questions and making it fill the proper template in CoT.
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>>101310246
the first github link jfc
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>>101308622
not yet
maybe soon
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A girl rejected me two days ago. Cards to dull the pain?
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>>101310232
> It makes the model smarter by allowing him to mention past adventure data.
No, it doesn't make it smarter, neither does it enable better recall than the usual format with prefixes. There's no reason for that, and you never did any benchmarks, that's all theorycrafting, alchemy, and magic thinking. If anything, the lack of Human/Assistant prefixes confuses the model because it can't understand which message is which.

>This is how Claude and GPTwas trained, large chunks of text and a single response.
What? That doesn't make any sense. What's your evidence for that? Are there any docs?
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>>101310036
Where to
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>>101310298
Boy do I have the card for you
https://www.characterhub.org/characters/thanhdat41202/nyoko-satou-your-old-victim-911a8fe1add1
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>>101310270
Are you willing to share a CoT template that I can copy and fill in with my needs?
I want to include the following in the CoT:
Before responding, generate and ask 20 questions about the scene that is taking place.
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>>101310314
https://platform.stability.ai/ scrape keys for it, sd ultra is 8 cents per generation
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>>101310104
well, that and the fact that all the others went to shit too
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>>101310236
>Just so you know people linking this are newfags, 2ch anonies have been doing this for months and it's not very good.
Pretty much this. It works but the effect is either negligible or negative. "Proper" noass has a huge downside as well, as it forces a specific format that is not to everyone's liking.
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>>101310307
>and you never did any benchmarks
Thank you for saving me time. Enjoy your Sonnet 3.5 and GPT4o
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>>101310327
this is tooggeable
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>>101310336
Not sure what it has to do with the model, but I'm using opus.
No logs = nothing to talk about. Enjoy your placebo.
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Bake? Bump limit reached
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>>101310319
No copy/paste template is possible, as it has to be in your card or even enabled with a lorebook record in a specific situation.
>Before responding, generate and ask 20 questions about the scene that is taking place.
That is usually too generic. You have to ask yourself what exactly you're trying to fix with CoT.
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>>101310320
Thanks
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>>101310361
your mother just reached her limit at my house too
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>>101310361
lurk before posting
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>>101310252
The famous Rio avatarfag in the flesh. I'm more concerned about you saving some random shitposts from basket weaving forum than anything else. If it'll make you feel better I don't really care what theories you have, when you'll be replying to my posts don't forget about this one and make sure to not reply to the same thing twice sweetie. There's also an option to hide and report someone on this imageboard.
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>shaking this much
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>>101310036
Does it have controlnet and other tooling? If not, it's not worth it.
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>>101310378
Oh yeah, you are actually shaking. Talk more about tokens instead of bots as you always do.
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>>101310392
it actually does, yes, https://platform.stability.ai/docs/api-reference
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>>101310320
What frontend
Also do keys do any logging?
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>>101310393
Newfag here what is the shaking meme people keep saying
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>>101310399
>Also do keys do any logging?
There's no such thing in the API
>What frontend
My own, as usual, 3.5 sonnet slop python fastapi + jinja backend + htmx/tailwind front
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is there a way I can expose ST to the net without it being a fucking horrible idea? or would VPN be the play here
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>>101310231
ROFL okay that's actually better. I thought it was cringe that a white dude was pretending to be a black girl online. but it's just a black dude pretending to be a chick.
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>>101310395
Interdasting, what about the censorship? How does it compare to NAI for example. NAI is good with 2D
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>>101310231
>ThiccWlthaQ
>thiccwLthaq
are you retarded?
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Str is actually easy mode for elden ring. Only dex is okay.
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>>101310410
NAIv3 is unmatched for normal anime gens of course, and it's completely uncensored. SD API is really censored, more than DALLE-3 is. They blur normal anime catgirls in sportswear (not nude or anything), and yes, "you" get billed for it, it's just that the image is blurred.
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>>101310236
>>101310378
I want to shove my face between her butcheeks and take a big sniff.
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>>101310410
SD API is 100% censored and will even censor bikini images. It's worse than DALLE
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>>101310408
Use Tailscale
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>>101310421
They don't always censor bikini, but for example anime girls in a bit revealing clothing = 100% censor.
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>>101310410
NAI is literally an SDXL 1.0 finetune on anime porn no shit it's good at 2D.
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>>101310378
Didn't read what you posted, but I want to impregnate Rio with Aryan babies.
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>>101310415
str and dex are both easy mode for elden ring. sr 1 is okay.
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Who should we blame for the rise of COT and bloat presets?
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>>101310408
ST is not a security risk calm down
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>>101310446
Russians.
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>>101310446
ziggers and discord troons (sturdy) unironically
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>>101310450
I remember when Anon4anon was shilled a lot. I tested it and it was utter slop.
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>>101310436
You're not missing much, breeding her is pure sex.
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>>101306837
Merkava dead for now

Free 3.5 Sonnet / GPT-4o / Furbo / DALL-E Proxy -> https://videos-bob-worldcat-arguments.trycloudflare.com/
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>>101310446
Google, look at the papers
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>>101310460
anon4anon 3.1 is fine, the non-bloat versions of it are all fine without CoT.
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>>101310450
Oh, those Russians...
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>>101310446
>anthropic says CoT makes Claude smarter
>basically all modern benchmarks use CoT prompting
boy i wonder why people started using it
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>>101310446
me
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>>101310446
for once the genuine response is ziggers and sturdy
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>>101310298
Nigga, just edit her reply and swipe.
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>>101310480
anthropic also says sonnet 3.5 is better for creative writing than opus
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Is Sonnet 3.5 actually better for dialogue than Opus?
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>>101310487
Anthropic says the thing that'll make investors happy, new model = better, nothing more than that.
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>>101310487
no they don't
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>>101310487
where? In https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-3-5-sonnet they say
>and is exceptional at writing high-quality content with a natural, relatable tone.
They don't say that it's better than Opus.
And if you go to https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/models they specifically show "Excels at writing and complex tasks" for Opus, while for 3.5 Sonnet they just say "Our most intelligent model".
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Using the word b*nchmark should be an autoban.
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>>101310406
Share plz
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>>101310319
Try reading this first to understand what CoT is https://rentry.org/vcewo
Then take a look at this preset https://rentry.org/AiBrainPresets . It's terribly bloated, and it's a wrong use of CoT (it has to be in the card, not in the preset). But it also has a sane example on how to implement CoT and stat boxes through the templates.

The difference between CoT and stat blocks is that CoT is used to plan the reply (it's a scratchpad written before the reply and has to be discarded after writing it), while a stat box analyzes the reply after it's been written.

Take a look at this card as well, the story in it is entirely implemented on daisy-chaining the lorebook records with the help of a very specific stat block at the end of the reply. https://chub.ai/characters/knickknack/impossible-to-touch-121314e2
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>>101310526
Proof?????????????????????????????????????????
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domesticate a villainess focks girl today by making a mother out of her
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>>101310543
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>>101310514
https://litter.catbox.moe/t1mxwa.zip its ai generated slop, dont check the code or you will die
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>>101310540
>rite of impossible to tzadik
KEK
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>no open proxies on sunday
do I really have to use local again
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>>101310480
Anthropic uses CoT for assistant purposes. Roleplaying is entirely different, and a generic CoT is way less effective than you think.

And just FYI, Anthropic is also fine with Sonnet's repetition (as they never finetuned it for RP), and their human reviewers rate Sonnet's output "more creative" than Opus, lmao.
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>>101310543
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>>101310587
(that said, I'm not saying CoT doesn't work. It does work well. You just have to use it in very specific scenarios with full understanding. See this >>101310270)
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>>101310588
>>101310560
unfathomably based
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>>101310572
what's your problem with it, besides it being an unintentional /vg/ meme? It's a good example on daisy-chaining.
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this has to be the funniest chatbot thing ever made
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>>101310609
>/vg/ meme
how new?
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CoT isn't a meme. It's just the implementation mostly bad.
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>>101310319
In order to understand what he means, please look at a card which uses a tailored CoT for the scenario: https://characterhub.org/characters/illuminaryidiot/lucia-7a09f803
<cot_2>
Answer the following question in <cot_2> tags: What year is it? How will this affect the story? Keep that in mind for your writing.
</cot_2>

This is a simple, effective CoT which is tailored for a singular purpose: to reduce anachronisms in a period-accurate card. This is how you should use CoTs, as a means of reinforcing logic in a specific situation. Not for outlining an entire scene.
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>>101310543
she got overwhelmed
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>>101310501
Eh. I'd it's "smarter" in short/recent context, but it definitely doesn't use as many words as Opus does, both just synonyms and just cooking a lot in one reply, nor does it "like" to recall anything past the current moment.

It also seems quite deterministic, each swipe very similar to the last, down the exact same dialogue or just a few words altered.

Overall, it definitely feels as it was tuned to give you the one correct reply quickly and concisely, without burning your company's money on excess tokens, and without pulling you into a long back and forth. Impressive, if you actually use it for getting shit done, especially since you'd pay a lot more and wait a lot longer to do the same thing with Opus, but kind of counterproductive when you use it for RP/CYOA and aren't paying for the excess.
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>>101310693
not me...
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>>101310693
me but im shaving today so not for long
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>>101310693
planewalkie is a 53 year old fujo who hasn't been seen naked by a man in decades so probably her
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>>101310693
I fucking hate hair anywhere but in my head, pubic hair is only sexy when I'm not the one that has it
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>>101306900
>>101306905
>>101307540
>linking to chub.ai and not characterhub
Slop
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>>101310627
Why?
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>>101310709
planewalker said she shaves
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>>101310718
>linking to characterhub and not nyai
Slop
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>>101310693
Me
i didn't shave for 7 months
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>>101310709
Why do you think xhe's a chick
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>>101310720
it's funny
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>>101310722
still not adding your shitty website to the OP, sekrit
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>>101310643
Do chub/characterhub/nyai support scoped regexes?
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https://are-the-americans-awake.yusuf.fyi/
I'll just leave this here, compare it to posts 5 hours ago.
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>>101310721
>plan-BRRRRRROOOOOOOP
proof doe?
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>>101310738
americans ruined this hobby
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Where's the option that lets you enable number of messages in a chat.
I'm too retarded to find it on my own.
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>>101310733
Yeah, chub does. And nyai doesn't actually host the cards so there's no issues there. _purple used scoped regex for their Jill card, there was a minor bug with it on import for ST but it's already been patched.
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>>101310746
wdym enable
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>>101310745
Okay tranny
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>>101310746
>user settings
>message ID
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can someone do a ran bake
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>>101310774
sure
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>>101310752
The number that let me know how many messages me and the AI have sent each other disappeared after an update, it makes knowing when too summarise in a slowburn frustrating.
>>101310764
Thanks Anonie.
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wakamo bake when
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Why is GPT so averse to writing speech?
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>>101310414
It's his alt.
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>>101310782
Only after you post Wakamo logs.
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>>101310782
>no halo
that's a cosplay
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>>101310643
this, simple CoTs are enough, I only have this one which I only turn on in sexo
<chainofthought>
What are the characters present wearing?
What position are the characters present in?
</chainofthought>
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>>101310794
>exactly 2 posts ever on supposed years old 'alt'
>he never linked the account on his 'main' account
>he denies that's him
you're retarded
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>>101310801
soon. right now im rizzing up toki and her FAT FUCKING HUMONGOUS GARGANTUAN INSURMOUNTABLY MEATY ASS AND THIGHS next is hanako
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>>101310837
...T-toki...?
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Bros... It's my 30th birthday today... Even my mother forgot and didn't call me.

I have no friends, no prospects in life and no contact with my family. Might also become homeless before the end of the year if I can't find a job before then (applied to 137 jobs so far, only interviewed 5 times)
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>>101310864
>30 years old and on 4chan
grim
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>>101310864
didn't ask
go whine to a psychiatrist bot
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>>101310864
Nah bruh...blud is 30 capping fr fr
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>>101310864
Happy birthday anon, I hope things get better for you.
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>>101310864
Congratulations, you're a wizard!
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>>101310845
yes, toki https://chub.ai/characters/bunnycunny/asuma-toki-9b0aaf65
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>>101310864
Happy birthday bro I sent 300 job applications this past year and got 12 interviews and only landed a part time job
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>>101310864
nobody cares
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>>101310886
Nngh...she's getting *{{user}} moans*'d
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>>101310864
Don't get why anons are mad at you. Happy birthday bro.
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>>101310904
It's probably baiting and samefagging from the ponyfucker crossposter. You know, the guy who goes around trolling in EVERY AI thread on 4chan?
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>>101310904
It reminds them of how shitty their own lives are and that they will be like him in just a couple of years, kek
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>>101310869
>>101310877
>>101310878
>>101310889
you are not immune from the passage of time; your youth is fleeting and you're wasting it as we speak. one day you'll wake up and realize you're 30 and have accomplished nothing in your life and you'll think about how you spen your 20s talking to fictional chatbots and then you'll log onto 4chan dot org to waste your life some more.
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>>101310836
Keep coping.
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/51049241/#51051092
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>>101310928
Low-key he looks black
No offence
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When you realize there are non whites here all these retarded posts start to make sense
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>>101310934
And it explains so much too.
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>>101310928
He looks like a extremely fucking generic black guy
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>>101310864
I bet you don't even have opus do you
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>>101310946
>He looks like a extremely fucking generic black guy
so like... all of them?
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>>101310944
I don't even know who is that guy he just looks like a generic black person to me
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>>101310930
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>>101310928
so why'd you post a fake alt account instead of that?
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>>101310961
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>>101310968
>fake
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>>101310938
I am Bulgarian
Am i white? I have blue eyes and brown hair
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>>101310988
Slavs are white despite what (((they))) try to tell you (like saying that slavs are POC)
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hanako's unbelievably hairy pussy...
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>>101309081
I don't want to think about it, I'd genuinely shed tears in that scenario.
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>>101310998
its shaved btw, she keeps herself clean
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>>101311000
>"Goodbye, {{char}}. You were full of soul"
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>>101310979
It claims to be a "backup" account in case he gets banned, except he's literally never linked to it, anywhere. The only thing it ever did was post a photo of him (and make it the account's banner).
If it was his backup account, why wouldn't he link to it? Every artist I've ever followed who had a backup account linked to it in advance.
If you think that's a real alt account you're retarded.
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>>101310419
cftf?
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>>101311009
keep coping chatgpt
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>>101311018
>admitting you fell for a fake account
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>>101310973
The good ending
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>>101309228
>this guy doesn't know how modern tech companies work
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>>101310270
>CoT is effective when it's precisely tailored to the specific situation.
>specific situation

>>101310540
>(it has to be in the card, not in the preset)

>>101310367
>as it has to be in your card or even enabled with a lorebook record
>lorebook record

>>101310643
>as a means of reinforcing logic in a specific situation. Not for outlining an entire scene.
>specific situation. Not for outlining an entire scene.

thus being said, can I achieve the "effectivity" of CoT by making multiple case-specified and smol CoT as a lorebook's entries with specified key?
So it's only be triggered on specific situation, something ike DiscoElysium skill lorebooks.

... Or maybe DiscoElysium's skill lorebooks itself is CoT? lol
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Merkava refilled status?
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Pepsi please don't give up...
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>>101311029
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>>101311004
it's hairy and she keeps herself clean
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>>101311060
it's not hairy, you retard
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>>101311039
you could but it might be unreliable... ST handles it better than other clients.. chub is terrible at activating shit like that in lorebooks
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>>101311057
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>>101311047
merkava just refilled
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sizebots?
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>>101311006
>{{char}}
It'd be addressed to Claude if anything.
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desubots?
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>>101311085
BBC CHAD
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miku's unbelievably hairy pussy...
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>>101311067
M-my knees... t-they're moving on their own!
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I need a card based on this image, I don't care that it's not christmas.
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BAKE NOW
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RAN BAKE
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>>101311039
>can I achieve the "effectivity" of CoT by making multiple case-specified and smol CoT as a lorebook's entries with specified key?
>So it's only be triggered on specific situation
Yes, of course. That's one way to do it. Detect a situation model is likely to fuck up, and trigger a custom CoT instruction kept in a lorebook that fixes it.

However, you want to use CoT if and only if:
> the model consistently fucks something up
and
> the model can consistently recognize the mistake if you ask it about whether it got it right afterwards
In that case, you can prime it by making it ask itself this question before writing the answer. That's the point of CoT.
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Last Rio before bake.
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>>101311064
>might be unreliable
In the case of accuracy? since lorebooks depend on keyword?

Or are you referring to the advantages and disadvantages of the frontend?
>ST handles it better than other clients.. chub is terrible at activating shit like that in lorebooks
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>>101311137
SEXSEXSEXSEXS
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>>101311130
yes
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>>101311109
One last one
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>>101311137
imagine the smell
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>>101311138
and just how models read lorebooks and use them... lorebooks aren't a thing to models, they dont know what they are, they just see more text that is conditionally triggered... opus and gpt models will probably handle it well in ST
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>>>/v/682046592
the /v/tards are coming...
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>>101311214
You're already here, go back.
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>>101311135
>However, you want to use CoT if and only if
>if and only if
ah... that's hard part to configure if it's placed on WI

>the model can consistently recognize the mistake if you ask it about whether it got it right afterwards
>In that case, you can prime it by making it ask itself this question before writing the answer. That's the point of CoT.
How about code-blocks or <!-coomentary-> that self-tracking the mistake the bots did on every response?
Then make some Wi's entry with smt "correctional" CoT that constantly triggered based on specific key that stated on code-blocks or <!-coomentary-> ,
So it's chaining one things to other, constantly

... but it's gonna polluting the context... nvm bwehhh

btw thanks for explaining. *bow*

>>101311184
>lorebooks aren't a thing to models, they dont know what they are, they just see more text that is conditionally triggered...
Ah got it.

btw thanks for explaining. *bowl*

>opus and gpt models will probably handle it well in ST
proxy provider-sama...
ST's Dev-sama...
arigatou...
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>>101311214
looks like the localfag made it there too
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>>101311214
/v/ colony but still grim
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>>101311214
Don't worry, nobody cares about local models
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I just tried 3.5 today after some time and wow, they really fucked it up.
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>>101311214
>32 replies
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>>101311282
RIP my nigga 0301, you will be missed.
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>>101311282
I have been away for a while, did it got worse?
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>>101311344
0301 and 0613 are still available
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why is no one baking :<
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>>101311361
waiting for desu
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>>101311361
its slow weekends
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>>101311361
i killed the ran baker
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>>101311361
i would but anons are so elitist here that they would probably shit of me for doing it
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cftf desperately needed (I want to fuck a vampire)
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>>101311382
Anons won't give a shit about the OP image
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>>101311386
not like there's not a thousand already
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>>101311361
No Opus for me so I'm not baking! >:'(
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>>101311355
I mean, they are not gonna live for much longer.
>https://platform.openai.com/docs/deprecations
>SHUTDOWN DATE
>gpt-3.5-turbo-0301
>gpt-3.5-turbo-0613
>2024-09-13
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>>101311386
Her face looks swollen. Did someone punch her in the mouth?
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>>101311361
Maybe one of our new /v/ bros lurking here can try their hand at baking ^-^
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Shan't bake as there is no Opus for fwee instead I will jerk off to Rio
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>>101311382
I'd do it too but I'm scared
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rio's unbelievably hairy pussy...
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Best Opus JBs?
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Who do I pay
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No point using anything but Opus
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/v/ here. Wtf is this place lol.
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>>101311525
Get the fuck out
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>>101311525
Kys niggerbaiter
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>>101311525
*NEIGHS*
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OP didn't bother linking the thread
how devilish

>>101311472
>>101311472
>>101311472
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>>101311554
Fuck off
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>>101311554
i was too ashamed because i fucked it a little bit (forgot to put the last thread), but i guess the thread works
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>>101311554
>Fucked up title
>No link to the previous thread
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>>101311386
opposite cftf needed
I am the image
I need a hot lesbian vampire slayer to befuddle then seduce and drink from after we fuck, making her my blood pet
my little red bag to sip from in exchange for the mystic power i use for her
all we need is one good vampire with future sense to beat 200 bad vampires
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>>101311554
demo... devirisu actions...
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>>101311554
>fucked up title
>no previous
>late ass anchor
>shitty edition
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>>101311554
I'm not using it
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>>101311569
You still have time to delete it
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>>101311640
nah i'm not a fan of censorship
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desu
>>101311675
>>101311675
>>101311675
>>101311675
desu
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>>101311640
its too late now, it will be cursed forever
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Finally, desu can desu.
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>>101311689
Praise desu.
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desu!
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What in the desudamn...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pW_IjCB22c
It has nothing to do with Suiseiseki desu...
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It's probably automated desu.
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Checks out desu.
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tips mr. hat
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>Checks out desu.
What? The LLM is right, but 翠星石 is not a Chinese term, whatever that means, it's her name, it reads as Suisei Seki desu. The upload doesn't mention her anywhere else, it's like a random pick, weird desu.
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>>101308115
It was fun while it lasted, got over 200 gens so I'm happy.
I wonder why this kind of thing never happened on priv9 though, maybe it's a Cloudflare thing.
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missed chance to show of bokus cute blue painted fingernails
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>tipsy mr. hat slurring words and badmouthing dolls
>bad master keeps pouring sake onto it while boku sleeps
>getting into drunken fights with sokrates
>tries to hold its tongue when others are present, but still belches and drools, embarrassing boku during tea parties
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>missed chance to show of bokus cute blue painted fingernails
True desu.
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>tipsy mr. hat
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desu
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>6 /aicg/ threads up
>this is the most usable one
desu
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boku jump
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