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threadly reminder that 6kro is more than enough unless you have hambeast mitts

>>101505079
>1080p: RTX 4070 Super
This isn't funny anymore, guys.

>>101505070
The 6900 XT AORUS was just $379 on Amazon. Unfortunately it went up again.
https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B097FYBRXH

>>101505095
The RTX 4060 is not a serious product, even for 720p

>>101505093
even as casual tween, jumping from rubber dome to cherry reds was such a massive leap in performance for me that I don't think a single other upgrade in my pc in 20 years has had as much an impact.

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>>101505099
>custom watercooling version

>>101505095
8gb cards are devious traps to get you to upgrade next year

>>101505113
that's not a custom cooler

>interested in nzxt kraken
>it uses the clip system for am4/am5 boards
>lost the plastic mounting hardware that comes with am4/am5 motherboards
FUCK

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I figure someone might get a kick out of this.
>building second PC, last was ~10 years ago
>familiar with all the parts and how they fit together
>no idea where to start
>everything goes to the mobo, so put mobo in first
>non-magnetic screwdriver, so it's a pain
>PSU gotta power it
>RAM's easy. Click, Click.
>CPU next, right in the socket
>now for the water cooler...
>What's this bracket?
>unscrew and remove 9 mobo screws without a magnetic screwdriver
>attach bracket behind mobo
>rescrew mobo
>3-fan water cooler radiator is a bitch to top-mount by myself
>one hand holding up radiator, other hand carefully balancing tiny screw into hole before switching to screwdriver
>thermal paste, mount WC to CPU
>start wiring things to mobo
>...where does the fan go on the mobo?
>check mobo manual again
>DIRECTLY under the wc radiator, both ports blocked completely
It's been 5 hours and I'm taking a break. On the plus side, I think I know how the rest goes and there shouldn't be anymore setbacks. But man, there's been a slew of dumb problems, like my WC having all the labeled baggies being wrong letters and then missing a baggie (turns out that bag's screws were pre-installed, despite keeping the step in the manual), my PSU failing the power test before I installed it (turns out the "Hybrid Mode" button has ON meaning off and OFF meaning on), my dumb brain seeing the front USB 3.0 plug's notch doesn't match the mobo's USB 3.1 plug and thinking they can't work together, trying to figure out which side of the power switch plug is + and which is -. But I'm feeling confident now. Apart from unmounting and remounting the radiator, the last bits should be easy.

>>101505137
This. This right here is why you KEEP THE DAMN BOXES.

>>101505121
It is a waterblock that you need to attach to a custom loop, hence custom watercooling version.

>>101505137
? I'm using the kraken 360 non-elite now and it uses custom standoffs and screws instead of the preinstalled clip
system has a 7800x3d and b650 steel legend btw

>>101505151
I'm sorry to hear that anon, I'll probably be following in your footsteps shortly once all my parts get here.

>>101505163
>7800x3d
Are your temps good? I checked out the CPU cooler, and the plate/preapplied thermal paste seemed really small, especially for an am5 chip

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soooooooooo
im hearing about 4090 melting and shit but it never happened to me, it runs amazing compared to a shitty i914900k i got it paired with
the northridge jew talks about repairing like 100 a week
emmmm is it really that bad?
i just plugged it real tight with atx 3.0 psu
i got a 4090 fe

I missed the boat on the last general so -

Here is my Australian build - would ideally like to keep it around the $2k mark (monitor inc.) so any tips would be appreciated. All prices are in AUS $ and inc. shipping. Primary uses are productivity and reasonable FPS gaming.

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K ($296.10)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Frozen Edge 69 CFM Liquid ($137)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 PG Riptide ATX LGA1700 ($249)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 ($95)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN770 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($197)
Video Card: XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 16 GB ($595)
Case: Montech AIR 903 MAX ($125)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A650BN 650 W 80+ Bronze ATX ($78)

Wireless Network Adapter: Intel AX200 M.2 ($40)
Monitor: Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ3A 27.0" 180 Hz ($369)


Total: ~$2182

First build so any tips, shoot. Thank you.

>>101505218
The pump block assembly is good but the fans that come with it are really bad so you may want to swap it out for better ones.
I run mine with lian li's P28's and I haven't seen temps higher than 83C and that's with the cooler mounted as exhaust and being cooled by hot gpu air. If the gpu is not under load, the cpu never crosses 80C

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Repasting my dumb mistakes.

>building second PC, last was ~10 years ago
>familiar with all the parts and how they fit together
>no idea where to start
>everything goes to the mobo, so put mobo in first
>non-magnetic screwdriver, so it's a pain
>PSU gotta power it
>RAM's easy. Click, Click.
>CPU next, right in the socket
>now for the water cooler...
>What's this bracket?
>unscrew and remove 9 mobo screws without a magnetic screwdriver
>attach bracket behind mobo
>rescrew mobo
>3-fan water cooler radiator is a bitch to top-mount by myself
>one hand holding up radiator, other hand carefully balancing tiny screw into hole before switching to screwdriver
>thermal paste, mount WC to CPU
>start wiring things to mobo
>...where does the fan go on the mobo?
>check mobo manual again
>DIRECTLY under the wc radiator, both ports blocked completely
It's been 5 hours and I'm taking a break. On the plus side, I think I know how the rest goes and there shouldn't be anymore setbacks. But man, there's been a slew of dumb problems, like my WC having all the labeled baggies being wrong letters and then missing a baggie (turns out that bag's screws were pre-installed, despite keeping the step in the manual), my PSU failing the power test before I installed it (turns out the "Hybrid Mode" button has ON meaning off and OFF meaning on), my dumb brain seeing the front USB 3.0 plug's notch doesn't match the mobo's USB 3.1 plug and thinking they can't work together, trying to figure out which side of the power switch plug is + and which is -. But I'm feeling confident now. Apart from unmounting and remounting the radiator, the last bits should be easy.

445 euros for RX 7700 XT or 640 euros for 4070 Super
what's better value?

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I was playing a video-game and it was running like shit, despite it not looking very good. I checked Speccy, and my CPU temp is pretty high. What's the solution? Better fan set up?

I've got a Ryzen 5 3600 that just hit 80 degrees, before dropping to mid 60s. I expect that with my GPU sometimes. Not my CPU.

Also, my RAM is pretty old. I ran Speccy
>AMD Ryzen 5 3600
>16.0GB Dual-Channel DDR4 @ 1066MHz
>MSI B450-A PRO MAX
>RTX 3060
Any recs for a RAM upgrade?
I'm looking into this one atm
>Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 Desktop Storage 32GB (2x16GB) 5200MHz C40

>>101505248
>https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/PR9VkJ
Here you go. I'd suggest you go with ddr5 since the performance gains are quite significant today (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV3fDDLr918), and the board I selected comes with wifi built-in so you don't have to get your own.

>>101505248
Looks good. I made a few minor changes to get it closer to $2k here: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/fMQpCd
Pretty similar overall to >>101505346's build which shows we're on the right track.

>>101505346
Also you can try your luck with 6400 cl32 ram
>https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/MDTZxr/lexar-ares-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6400-cl32-memory-ld5eu016g-r6400gdla
But I've intentionally put the 6000 cl32 kit instead because 12th gen memory controllers are all over the place and many cpus cannot run 6400mhz easily

>>101505335
Option B is it is an unreal engine game by an amateur dev just using default presets which chug no matter what basically.

>>101505392
Nah, No Man's Sky, which I don't think is UE

>>101505335
>3600 80C
Not a problem unless it's thermal throttling. The boost algo sees it has tonnes of thermal headroom so it pushes the juice.

>Speccy
No. Use HWinfo for system summary.

>1066MHz
Assuming Speccy is reporting this correctly (lol), you should enable XMP/DOCP.

>DDR5
Incompatible with AM4.

>RAM upgrade
If you need more capacity because you like to keep 100 tabs open while gaming, buy a fresh 2*16GB kit of 3200C16 or 3600C18.

>What to do?
Go find out if your CPU is actually the problem. Use Rivatuner overlay and monitor the utilizations in-game. If it is, buy a 5700X3D. You will need to update the BIOS to use it.

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>>101505428
>Assuming Speccy is reporting this correctly (lol), you should enable XMP/DOCP.
HWinfo reporting samme thing, unless I'm reading it wrong

>>101505151
>non-magnetic screwdriver, so it's a pain
It's like 3$ my man, wtf is wrong with you.
>water cooler
Rookie mistake.

>>101505446
That's most likely correct then. Go turn XMP on. I don't know how sensitive NMS is to RAM but it should be good for a few FPS.

>>101505093
I'm not american and I don't have large hands and no, 6NKRO is dogshit, as before
but the fact that the manufacturer (cherry) advertised the keyboard as 14NKRO is even worse since it's a total scam
>>101505107
first cherry red keyboard i bought was a scam and slightly softer linear switches are useless if the keyboard is useless itself
so in case this was an actual insane downgrade
>>101505228
if you are even more paranoid powerlimit, not like you are losing any perf

>>101505428
>>101505446
speccy - and HWINFO - read the base clock of ram. You know what DDR stands for? Double data rate so 1066 x 2 = 2133mhz.

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Should I register my new gpus warranty immedieatly when buying or should I inspect if everything is alright first?

>>101505468
Yes and DDR4-2133 is a JEDEC spec which means he most likely hasn't enabled XMP.

one thing I noticed with pc noobs is that they're afraid to touch their bios fan curve. they got their fans ramping up & down at the slightest turbo load.

>>101505485
Doesn't matter. Depending on what manufacturer you've bought from, they're probably gonna try to scam you out of the warranty a few months/years from now.

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I've barely touched my BIOS ever, except whenever a problem pops up once or twice over 10 years. Wish me luck with turning XMP on.

>>101505493
maybe so, but don't I lose ability to return the gpu if I register the warranty for myself?

If I had to choose one option out of these:
>32GB 5200 DDR5 over 32GB
>12600K/KF over 12400F
>7700 XT over 4060
Which would be the most significant?

Building my first PC, have room to potentially upgrade a bit next year, I just need this starting build to be decent, affordable, and able for me to build fastish.

Will be used for video games, web browsing, academic stuff, dabbling in gamedev stuff.

>>101505510
>over 32GB 3200 DDR4
Should be the end of the first line.

>>101505497
It's one setting. I'm a bit surprised you haven't heard of this since it's front and centre in every build guide. I don't think it'll solve your problem entirely but it should help those edge cases.

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>>101505079
i9-10900T ES QTB0 1.5GHz 10C 35W For H410 B460 Z490 LGA1200

can someone please tell me if I am retarded or the world is for pricing this shit at 130 dollars?

>>101505510
>32GB 5200 DDR5 over 32GB
Most significant in bandwidth-constrained scenarios. Mostly workstation stuff but some games do see significant uplifts. Mainly current gen console ports, it seems.
>12600K/KF over 12400F
Most significant in CPU-bound scenarios or n-thread applications. Esports games, simulators, city builders, etc.
>7700 XT over 4060
Nvidia's proprietary technologies aside, this would be the most significant for general gaming.

>>101505346
>>101505375

Hey, thank you for your responses.

I agree that biting the bullet and going with DDR5 is worth it so have considered that in my build along with the Wi-Fi in the mobo.

I reckon to err on the side of caution I’ll go with 6000 cl32 but that’s interesting to note. I’ve also made amendments to the cooler, likely opting for the Peerless Assassin as a cheaper option.
Appreciated!

>>101505510
both benefit highly from being oc'd and not running such shit slow ram
if you are gonna use the estrogencores and igpu you gotta get 12600k
if not for gaymen a 12400f at 5.2ghz is best if you get a good combo deal w/ B760 Riptide + 6400 DDR5

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>>101505520
Turned it on. It's actually a massive button beside OC Wizard or something. Not sure if it's worth turning that on either.

>>101505557
The phantom spirit is the better cooler
Both are $59 so it makes sense to go with the phantom spirit

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Is this PSU worth getting? It's on a pretty big sale down from ~$205. Platinum 1000W, Japanese capacitors, ATX 3.0/PCIe 5.0 compatible and has a 12vhpwr cable included with 7 year warranty.

The problem is, I can't find any review on it besides some Hispanic tech store guy and some consumers who both said the PSU works fine, only there's a slight caveat with the fan. But the company itself is quite reputable.

I am a fucking retard and do the following:
- 1 Disk for /
- 1 Disk for /home
I want to buy some M.2 drives. Buying a 1TB drive for / seems completely absurd. Do they not make fast but small NVME drives? Everything is 500GB+ now (some are 1TB+) when I really just need like 128 or 256GB for /. This is replacing a decade old 256GB Crucial M4 that I use a whole 65GB of for my NixOS install...

>>101505622
>Turned it on
It's at 2400 MHz, seems low. Is that the speed of your memory kit? Sometimes they can have multiple XMP profiles.
>It's actually a massive button beside OC Wizard or something. Not sure if it's worth turning that on either.
No, do not touch that shit. Never let your motherboard overclock your CPU. It will be unstable and/or fry your CPU.

The sound chip on my motherboard crapped out, it only plays white noise or 250Hz sine waves if anything is plugged into USB2 ports (but not the USB3).

What could I get for my motherboard to get audio in good quality (low latency, no audio break ups, good snr)? There's no space on the board for a soundcard, so I'm stuck with something USB.
For now I have my headphones plugged into the xbox one controller, which is not optimal but it works (sound tends to break up randomly every once in a while).

>>101505628

Sweet, just found one for the same price as I was glossing over the RGB variety. Good shout.

>>101505646
platinum cant be that bad
not that insane deal thou
>>101505688
apple usb-c to 3,5mm adapter or buy a desktop dacamp for more

>>101505688
the apple usb-c dongle or whatever chinkshit surprassed it
cost me like 11 euros couple years back, but had to get a USB-A to USB-C adapter too

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Day 472 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>101505228
cables only melt if not properly plugged in

>>101505250
omegalul

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>>101505273
7700 XT.
You can check here for best value of all GPU's and in certain categories.
https://bestvaluegpu.com/en-eu/

>>101505718
>>101505719
does that have good latency, or will it get me the exact same as using the xbox one controller (that one is also usb-c)?

I heard of people somehow tampering gpu's firmware or whatever and swapping the main chips inside with something else. Is this just a rumour or is it real and if its true how do I check?

>>101505833
Facebook marketplace scams and suspicious eBay listings will lead you to these types of scams mostly affects older cards but u can check if you got scammed by running a benchmark and comparing if the data is the same as other GPU's of that model

>>101505792
>Have 2070
>Only do very light gaming at 4k (no new games past 2020, usually just MMO trash)
>Only upgrade path is a 7700 XT
>Care about power draw
>TDP conscious so hate all new GPUs, Anything over 200W TDP is not worth buying.
>7700 XT has way higher TDP.
Can't wait for new GPUs.

>>101505851
does it affect just used gpus or could new gpus be tampered with as well?

>>101505853
At 4K you should be buying a 4080 Super, but you won't because you're poor.

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>>101505853
>TDP conscious
>over 200W TDP not worth buying

then why did you buy the 7700xt and not the 4070

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>>101505853
Why do you have a 4K display but can't even afford a GPU?

>>101505865
you could do it with new cards but I don't see it very often on newer stuff

>>101505874
Fuck Nvidia lmfao.
>>101505878
How tf do you know I have dual 4k screens? I refuse to buy any GPU above $550. I am not buying into the Nvidia AI scam.

Can I buy a replacement heatsink for a motherboard? Do I need one for m.2 ssds?

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>>101505886
>How tf do you know I have dual 4k screens?

anon..

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>>101505886
You said so yourself, you poor retard.

>>Only do very light gaming at 4k (no new games past 2020, usually just MMO trash)

>>101505884
Well I thought so too. I'm a bit paranoid right now. I just bought brand new card off ebay, the seller has 99.8% good reviews and amount of reviews is in 4 digits, did provide super quick delivery (2 days, 2 days earlier than it described, and has actually sent me a message about it). The card was about 60-100£ cheaper than anywhere else which is a good a deal but not too good that I considered it be untrue. I got the card right now and the seal on the anti static bag is still intact, the S/N numbers on both the box and the card match too.
Here's where I'm, I was about to register warranty but I'm not sure I should. If I register the card not only I won't be able to return the card but if it has been tampered somehow I won't get any warranty either. Now im not sure how I should proceed

>>101505958
putting the card in your system and testing it does not count as tampering so I would recommend you do that, also what card is it?

Anyone know why my rgb case fans don't work?

>>101505974
When I say tampering I mean that for what I know it already could have been tampered. I do not wish to open the seal, test the gpu just to see that I'm right because if that's true then one, the seller can deny return because the seal was broken and the warranty registered, two the manufacturer could deny warranty since it has been tampred and might suspect it has been me who did it and I won't get warranty either. I'm probabaly paranoid but I can't help it. And its rtx 4070 super.

Hi can someone please help me? I'm trying to find cheapest CPU to match my RX 590 8GB without bottlenecking, mobo locks me to pretty much only 6 and 7th gen Intel core CPU-s. Which one should I choose?

>>101506036
if you bought this from eBay then you have extremely strong buyer protection if you test the card and it is not what you ordered and the seller refuses refunds then you can file a problem to ebay that the seller basically scammed and get a refund that way so I would highly recommend testing the GPU

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I have some motherboard "basic knowledge" questions.
>What are the two ATX 12V Power Connectors for on my mobo?
>Where does the CPU get it's power from?
>Why does the manual say to connect one of the two ATX 12V Power Connectors to the PSU in addition to the main mobo power connector?
I'm joggin' my noggin' in thinking that maybe the ATX12V1 is for the CPU's power, and the second one is in case of a second CPU? But I have no idea, and pic related is literally all the information the manual gives on this. I don't know what the first one is for and why it's required or what the second one is for and why it's not required.

>>101506077
and what about the warranty? If I do have to return it but I registered what happens then?

>>101506088
the atx 12v1 connector is for your cpu some motherboards include a second connector for extra power delivery for high end intel CPU's which can use in excess of 250w under load

>>101506120
That's exactly what I was worried about. I have an i9 14900. How do I know if I need the second one? The intel manual tells me fuck all.

>>101506112
you said in your first post you was "about to" register the warranty, regardless if the seller is refusing refund and you are using ebay (I assume) the you WILL get a refund from ebay)

>>101506038
it's cheaper to buy a ryzen and a motherboard. old i7s are always overpriced

>>101506138
>How do I know if I need the second one

you absolutely do need it then since that is an extremely power hungry chip

also unrelated but recently it has been discovered that certain high end chips from Intel (especially the i9-14900/k) have been shipping from the factory faulty and you may encounter issues or total failure after a few months of usage, sorry to be the bearer of bad news

>>101506171
Whelp. That'll be a bummer if true, but nothing I can do about it now. Thanks for the answers. Is there a way I could know the cable demand without having to guestimate based on the chip's power draw? I feel like the mobo manual should have had something like
>if X, you need to use both
or intel's manual should have had
>requires two 8-pin ATX12Vs...
but I couldn't find anything. Mobo especially; that pic is from the pdf version. It really says absolutely nothing, let alone the conditions for why.

>>101506246
do you know which motherboard model you have? I may be able to help, and also make sure your power supply has two cables of that type

>>101506295
Yeah.
https://download.asrock.com/Manual/Z790%20Taichi.pdf
My PSU has two CPU cables. I'm not worried about that.

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>>101506327
both cpu power cables need to go here

>>101506246
14900k on a 8 pin power is actually fine with stock settings
peak draw on a 14900k stock is 300w and the 8 pin is rated for 330

>>101506360
I think it is more about splitting the load over two connectors for better power delivery

>>101506295
>>101506327
Oh, I should specify, "That'll be a bummer" was directed at the faulty i9-14900k trend, since that's what I just bought.

>>101506377
you can limit it to 5.3-5.5 GHz to keep it from degrading

Almost forgot. I was about to install new cpu but the thermal paste I borrowed from my dad is as old as WoW. Any reccomendations for new paste or are they all the same nowdays?

>>101506429
they are all pretty similar, Arctic Mx6, whatever Noctua has and Kryonaut are good

>>101506422
Cool. I was planning on undervolting it for a few years until CPU demands start creeping up. My current PC lasted me 10 years, so I intend to stretch this one as long if possible. By the time I move into overclocking, it might already be time to consider a new CPU anyways.

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>9800X3D chip will have the same amount of V-cache as 7800X3D
>RDNA 4 will still use GDDR6
>shitty sales practices (7900X3D)
AMDbros...

>>101506500
I think this is preferable to selling faulty products, also zen 5/X3D reviews are not out yet so there is still hope

>>101506500
rdna4 is rdna3 with improved RT. this was known from day one.
it's also known from day one that AMD give fuck all about its gpu segment, it is focusing all r&d on the cpu segment, which is beating ten times of shit out of Intel.

rdna3/4 was basically a test run for chiplet interconnects, and it didn't perform as good as expected.

>>101506500
9800X3D will probably be stronger relative to the non-vcache counterpart compared to zen 4

>>101506574
why?

>>101506582
improved thermals means you won't lose as much clock speed
then add overclocking capability on top of that

>>101506611
oh yeah true

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>>101506500
Don't expect cache to increase by much on future CPUs.

>>101506756
gib dual layer vcache

>>101506756
Afaik amd did black magic on zen5's L3
The cores are bigger than zen4's but they managed to reduce the L3 size significantly resulting in a smaller die overall and likely without reducing L3 performance at that too.

>>101506788
cache performance is inversely correlated with size, so it should be faster too

are these intel issues with 13/14th gen really a big issue? m8 is looking to build a new system but I don't want to recommend them if the shit will be long term

>>101506834
Yes, avoid Raptor Lake.

>>101506867
so 12th gen or just AMD? GPU is going to probably an 4070. thanks

Gonna be using wireless headphones and controllers and stuff with my pc. Should I get a motherboard with WiFi (Bluetooth) or just get an adapter

>>101506888
Avoid any Intel CPU with e-cores for your own sake. Buy a 7800X3D or 7600X.

>>101506925
he doesn't really want to go AMD. the question is if you wanted to run Intel would you go 12th over 13/14th

>>101506963
if you must go intel then raptor lake is okay but you MUST undervolt and control clocks

>>101506834
Yup. If you really did get a bad cpu, you'd be stuck in an rma loop with intel until you get a good cpu while your system would be unusable.

>>101506963
Haven't seen any faulty 13400s or 14400s
avoid the retarded i7 and i9 chips

>>101506968
If its a fabrication issue, you could get a bad one that will fail in due time anyway regardless of how you treated it

>>101506968
>>101506970
thanks, I new about those fixed but I don't think either of us want to fix his stuff all the time. I don't
>>101507011
good point I will look into that

>>101507011
>Haven't seen any faulty 13400s or 14400s
these are just renamed alder lake chips anyway

>>101507051
there are 2 steppings
c0 alder b0 raptor

>>101507065
yes... *400 chips are all c0 stepping

>>101507168
No. Look it up.

>>101506834
EVERY SINGLE CPU made by Intel in the last 9 years is defective, believe it or not.

>>101507193
Damn, you're right.

>>101507204
>9
stop sugarcoating this shit you faggot intel shill
it's more like 16 years with all the meme refreshes they have been doing

Wooting HE60/80 no longer recommended keyboards
Razer Huntsman Mini V3 Pro back on top for gaymers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feny5bs2JCg

Razer best peripheral company?
>Best keyboard
>Best wireless mouse tech repeatedly

>>101505079
>Changed case
>no signal with 2 different gpus
???

>>101507407
you forgot to connect the 8 pin, broke the board or shorted something
see if it works with out a case

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>>101506834
It's specifically an issue with the k version, even when not being overclocked or running hot. I haven't seen reports about non-k versions specifically. It's usually just "problem with Raptor Lake" and is then explained with k versions.

>>101507515
you can't overclock these chips... The stock setting is already 0.2V over the safe limit

>>101507515
>trying this hard to cover it up and shut it down
KEK inteljeets are in full force today
ALL inteljeet trash CPUs are broken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTeubeCIwRw

>>101506893
wifi and bluetooth is good quality of life if you can get it built in on mobo
with controller a 2.4ghz adapter is gonna give you lower latency if you care, else you can use bluetooth too, it works
pretty much anything wireless peripherals you are gonna use wireless adapters because of latency like mice
>>101506500
>everything bad
I know, just accept mediocrity as a default and you will be way more happy in life from now on
>>101506360
>and the 8 pin is rated for 330
buildzoid told me it was 384w
>>101505821
it's just a tiny dac I'm sure it's impercievable
also the output volume of the adapter in eu is pozzed compared to usa due to eu regulations of volume limitations so the eu adapter is real shit compared to the us variant also, if you happen to be an eupoor
which probably by now chinesium dongles/dacs have probably surpassed the apple one long ago due to this
it's just a cheap standard recommendation

>>101507515
>It's usually just "problem with Raptor Lake" and is then explained with k versions.
Thats because the K cpus are the default these days
Intel doesnt bin as many non-Ks likely to skim the $50 tax for the K label from oems.

>crashes if you look at the CPU the wrong way
>overpriced motherboard already obsolete
>no refunds
It has never been a worse time to be an Intelcuck

>>101507618
>>101507515
what is even the point of OC anymore if you're are not interested in squeezing the most performance out?

>>101507686
>13600K
enjoy your crashes
the rest of your build is fine, just toss the motherboard and CPU and use a ryzen 7600 or 7700 on a B650 motherboard instead to cut costs and gain an upgrade path

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I'll wait till the end of the month to make my final decision but for now this seems to be it, 7800x3D + 7900 GRE.

>>101507686
>949 dollar euros for a gpu
>not even a 4080

damn sucks to be a eurofag

>>101507686
>2.3k
>for a poor man' setup

>>101507748
>Corsair 4000D Airflow
Why?

>>101507748
cooler sucks and msi is pretty shady as far as am5 boards go (6L pcb vs 8L on competing brands, slow boot times)
also ram uses samsung chips and will suck for stability. you'll want to get trident z5 neos to have a proper expo profile and get 6000 30-36-36-96 timings instead to gurantee hynix dies

>>101507748
>Hyper 212
Thought that was pretty dated by now? My lazy and cliched suggestion is obviously the Thermalright Peerless Assassin/Phantom Spirit but you can look around a bit I think for others.

>>101507794
Because I don't know any better. I'll look into other cases.
>>101507799
Thanks, noted.
>>101507802
>Thought that was pretty dated by now?
Probably. Last time I did a PC build was 7 years ago and then it was fine.
>Thermalright Peerless Assassin/Phantom Spirit
Thanks

>>101507716
I heard only higher end cpus has that issue
>>101507755
The 4080 super is 200 more I think but idk that it's worth it

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>>101507831
Everything Raptor Lake is fucked, it's a gamble if you'll get a good chip or not.

>>101507868
I see, appreciate the help, will go with your suggestion.
>>101507782
VAT bloats like crazy, it's pain but I'm used to it

Are a 5800x3d and 4070 Ti S the end of the line as far as upgrading a X570 goes?

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>>101507910
4090 or 4080 Super work fine with the 5800X3D too, anno.

>>101507831
>The 4080 super is 200 more I think but idk that it's worth it

It far superior over the 4070 desu
I would lose the intel cpu and go for a AM5 board with a 7700x and use the money you saved from that to upgrade your gpu to a 4080S
And do you really need 4TB internal SSD?
why not a 1TB and a external SSD or HDD

>>101508068
4090 is bottlenecked by 5800X3D. the farthest you can stretch it is 4080.

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>>101508139
No such as thing as bottlenecking. Retarded term. It's like saying your car is bottlenecked if the wheels can handle a more powerful engine.

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>>101508139
>>101508234
This. 5800X3D performance is fucking 95% of a 14900K in 4K resolution. And in MOST games the 4090 will STILL be the limiting factor and the 5800X3D will be at like 30-40% CPU usage in afterburner.

>>101508234
this just simply is not true a 5800x3d can indeed hold back a 4090 quite substantially especially since it will be using ddr4 ram

>>101508271

cpu bottlenecking depends on the game and resolution
higher res always means more emphasis on gpu, now ddr4 vs ddr5 does impact fps a bit but it wouldnt be terrible to run a am4 system with 4090

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>>101508271

>quite substantially

5/225fps is not substantial. 5/225*100~=2.2%.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill here.

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>>101508289
I agree it would not be awful the 5800x3d is still a fast chip but if you have the money for a 4090 then using a last gen chip is is not a good combo
>>101508297
you are kidding right?

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>>101508342
No, I am not kidding.

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>>101508342
4% better on average
so yeah, may as well keep using the old am4 system unless you decide to use the system for productivity and 16 core 9000 series cpu makes >100% difference

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>>101508342
>>101508271
>>101508139
>>101508123
>>101508068
>>101507910

>>101508383
ah yes I nice playable 42fps, also this does not show 1% lows so you Aren't getting the full story

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>>101505079
What CPU & mobo combo should I pick up at the end of 2024? I need a goal for losing weight. I'll be using a 3060 and DDR5.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/ww86Jy
budget around 1400 AUD. i already have the monitor from a previous build.

>>101508481
9800X3D + B650 Slop + 8000Mhz ram
>>101508521
>AS5
your conductive paste from 2 decades ago called

whens the next oled monitors coming out with less risk of burn in?
kind hesitating getting one rn

>Corsair CV650 fan bearing whine
>send it in for warranty
>they send back a CX650
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I guess I no longer need a PSU upgrade

>>101508592
samsung released some good displays recently

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Is it a good idea to install components on the motherboard before putting it in the case? Seems like it would save time.

t. retard

Come on Nvidia announce the 5000 series ffs

>>101508582
i have good experiences with the AS5. plenty leftover in my tube.

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>>101508648
>plenty leftover in my tube.

>>101508612
yeah it is
you place the cpu, ram, cpu cooler without fans, m.2 nvme ssd on it and that can be then placed into the case

gpu and cooler fans can go later when you've done installing cables
then if you have modular psu you prob want to install all the necessary cables on it before putting that in the case

>>101508481
PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zLXkvf

CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F 2.5 GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.94 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B660M Pro RS Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $199.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-07-21 13:14 EDT-0400

>>101508592
you cant fix things inherent in a technology, either pay 1k or stop yapping
>>101508612
do a boot test outside case to see if shit works before you install everything and find out something is fucked yes
>>101508648
yeah sure use it just saying no reason to buy it

>>101508695
>i5-12400F
Enjoy your crashes.

>>101508696
i dont wanna throw away my monitor every 3 years anon

>>101508481
What is your budget?

>>101508695
b760m riptide with a clock gen is 93 buckaroos on newegg
would you pay 3 dollars more for 30-80% free performance?
>>101508698
12th gen is fine tho
>>101508703
well in your theorcrafted fictional scenario you would be to poor for oled

>>101508750
asshole

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/L9pfQP

This is where I'll be heading. I need to check case space for that cooler though.

>>101508695
>recommending unupgradable DoA kike trash
Holy shit please kill yourself
>>101508481
Just get a secondhand Ryzen 7600.

>>101508750
>12th gen is fine
It isn't unless you're buying secondhand at half MSRP.

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>>101508619
You idiots should have just bought the 4080 Super or 4090.

>>101508762
>Holy shit please kill yourself
a 5.2 ghz 12400f for 200 bucks total is a pretty good combo
>>101508779
above
>>101508758
sorry for pointing out the obvious

>>101508762
More expensive and you need nothing better with a 3060.

>>101508761
why you are going with 14th gen now after all this shit going on with intel plus a dead end platform is actually beyond me

I always see anime figures in PC cases. Surely they melt?

>>101508761
Did you already have the 3060? Pairing that with a 14600k especially right now makes very little sense?

>>101508826
I humbly accept a better alternative if you'd be so kind

ok so
When playing GPU intensive games I sometimes get artifacts and the game crashes
Then I get a message "driver crashed"
Is there any change that this isn't a GPU issue? I don't want to buy a new graphics card

rx570

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Retards having a complete spergout at the 12400F being recommended?

>>101508842
ryzen 5 7600x or in a a couple weeks time the ryzen 5 9600x which will be launching very soon

>>101508838
>Did you already have the 3060? Pairing that with a 14600k especially right now makes very little sense?
It makes a lot of sense if Intel Quicksense benefits him.

>>101508717
Unlimited budget as long as it'll last me 3-5 years. My current rig will be used as a mini-PC for my TV.

>>101508849
I sometimes get artifacts

100% a gpu issue

>>101507686
Just order a pre-built from MemoryPC if you're in EU, it's cheaper than your build with both a better CPU and GPU
https://www.memorypc.eu/high-end-gaming-pc/nvidia-geforce-552908/

>>101508849
if your gpu isnt full of dust install other drivers
>>101508852
amdrones slopping as usualy
if you are not gonna oc the 12400f with a clock gen mobo just buy something else though

>>101508859
ryzen 7 7800x3d or in a couple weeks time the the ryzen 7 9700x

>>101508859
9800x3d if that's already out by the end of 2024
Whatever Asrock B650 motherboard you like

>>101508871
>install other drivers
I already did that
I also reinstalled windows
It also happens on linux
It's not a driver issue
Should I change the thermal paste? I am worried about destroying the thermal pads

https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/pXGrN6

There we go. Perfected. Now I just need to see what's out when I decide to upgrade.

>>101508871
What is clock gen?

>>101508900
if your gpu hotspot temps are not above 110 degrees then idk what to say other than your card might be fucked

>>101508922
well
it is time to consooome then

pulled the trigger
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rPHdZJ

>>101508908
oh you found a listing for a 9600x wtf

>>101508915
makes it so you can overclock non K cpus

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What temps should I expect from a 4080 Super at stock in full load?
Not just a gaming load, I mean full on power throttle with tensor cores engaged

Strange question to go alongside this >>101508908

Does anyone have any recommendations for shit I can do to my case that'll have cats watching the inside?

>>101508068
You know what I meant frogposter. If I luck into a 4090 I'll take it but this is the best I can get.

>>101508871
Yeah I saw framechasers OC'ing that CPU. It can handle a 4080 Super. Amazing

>>101508930
nice build looks good

Convince me out of spending $140 more than I need to for my CPU cooler to get one with a screen
It'd just look so good on my PC, especially since it'll be on my table

>>101508870
I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on this one
https://www.memorypc.eu/gaming-pc/amd-ryzen-5-560629/

>>101508945
well if the AIB did not design an awful cooler and you have a well ventilated case then 75-70C would be ideal

>>101508970
running software like that and rgb software that constantly pings the system have been shown to cause instability and is extremely gay in general

>just learned about Epyc on AM5
for what fucking purpose????

>>101508970
it loses it's charm very quickly I barely turn on my RGB stuff these days

>>101508974
If you can afford it, upgrade the motherboard to one of the B650s they offer (the Gigabyte Eagle AX is good).
It will be better in the long run if you want to upgrade to a 9800x3D or else later on.

>>101508974
what country are you in I will see if I can make something better on PC part picker, that pre built is okay I guess, it has a bad MB and ram is a tiny bit slow but a very good GPU for the price

Need some advice about fans. Small blog greentext for context.

>building a new PC soon, just building on partpicker right now
>found a case I like that has everything I need
>case only has 1 fan, need to buy more, don't want water cooling
>only fits 120mm fans because its apparently a very old case (I need the CD port and lots of front USB ports)
>want to replace the exhaust fan as well to have consistent dB all around, in total I need 4 fans
>budget isn't a big deal because I still have a few months to save for it
>but also not trying to drop $100+ on just fans

what do you recommend /g/? Any outstanding price/performance fans you'd advocate for? I've only ever used stock fans or whatever Best Buy had on the shelf before in my first PC build but they've been hit or miss as far as noise goes I started off looking at these be quiet! silent wings fans but they only go up to 1450rpm so I'm not entirely sure if that'll be good enough airflow for my planned build (4080S + 7800X3D). But at only ~17dB it's tempting. A few other be quiet! fans around but all of them are about the same, ~1500rpm and ~18dB. I looked at a couple of Noctua fans because I know they're very reputable and my build isn't RGB so I don't mind the weird colors, but ~$31 per fan feels steep. Ultimately I care more about the noise than I do about the price but I'm also trying to be mindful of not pissing away money unnecessarily. Any advice?

>>101507709
Just bragging rights on OC communities & leaderboards, 0 practicality.
Responsible workstation builders and hardware administrators set these high-performance components to be as boring (stable) as possible.
The higher-end 13th & 14th gen Intel Core processors are still getting bricked under those safer operating conditions.
I'm not talking about Intel Guideline specs that just feed more volts to the CPU to stabilize higher clock frequencies.

High-end PC components can pump more than enough frames, including minimums, for competitive games anyway.
You'll never hear a genuinely good gamer using a high-end PC say he lost a match because the other guy's got better 0.1% fps lows.

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Me? I'm just stocking up on popcorn for when the 12th gen Intelcucks start crashing too.

>>101507709
I literally just do it for fun sometimes and maybe I might get a 5% or even 10% fps boost in some games from my GPU overclock/undervolt

>>101509006
Thanks, will do.
>>101509012
>what country are you in
Croatia. Prices here suck. For any bigger purchase it's cheaper for me to order internationally. Even ordering games from Japan is cheaper than ordering it here + VAT.

>>101508849
There is no simple answer - as the ongoing intel fiasco is showing if something else in the chain is unstable (cpu or ram being the two main culprits) and that is feeding your gpu garbage the gpu can crash. I would certainly start by looking at the gpu but a driver crash is not inherently caused by a gpu in of itself.

>>101509034
It will be funny to see 11th gen "waste of sand" owners having the last laugh

>>101509021
>be quiet! silent wings fans but they only go up to 1450rpm
There's the Silent Wings 4 high speed version that goes up to 2500rpm which should easily be enough especially since their selling point is good acoustics which means you don't want even higher speeds like the Pro version offers. I actually looked into them recently and they seem pretty good when balancing performance with noise, though people are going to say it's overpriced when they compare it to stuff like Arctic.

>>101508970
Do it. You'll feel slightly happier every time you see it. It's stupid, and possibly a waste of money, and slightly impacts start up times and overclocking leaderboards (won't affect gaming tho)

But you'll grin from ear to ear everytime you change up the central gif to a pepe or something. I'd do it.

cant really say i regret getting the 3050, sure i could have gotten something better on ebay used but cant really get to trust miners hopefully used 40xx series will be a safe bet in 3 years, at lower chance of being used for mining ? also those gaming oc special editions look like then way go right? cant think of a reason why miners would want to pay for those editions if they just care about performance /price ratios and not rgb memes or triple fans , I am all about budget honestly, or maybe the new meme is AI training clusters?

>>101509054
ok well I couldn't price match it so yeah it seems like a good deal, just maybe consider a motherboard upgrade and/or upgrading it to 32gb of ram

>>101509194
Thanks, I will!

>>101508945
It depends on the model of the 4080 Super.
NVIDIA's vBIOS has an 83°C baseline and 88°C OC thermal limit for the GPU (non-hotspot), some of the base MSRP cards with the smallest possible heatsink paired & the cheapest fans will run near the 83°C limit under high-stress loads (CUDA, Tensor, & RT cores fully utilized).

My 4080 Super FE was averaging nearly 80°C from running 3DMark Speed Way for 20 consecutive runs (355W maximum power limit, 1440p, heaviest RT benchmark).

Cards like the ASUS TUF & Strix or the PNY XLR8 have oversized coolers with good fan curves to keep them running relatively cool and quiet, but ASUS fucked up with the thermal paste application.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/asus-geforce-rtx-4080-tuf-gaming-with-serial-error-built-in-hotspot-ex-works-material-analysis-and-the-rescue/4/

>>101509124
Shit, good enough for me. I'll look into it, thanks anon.

What's the highest acceptable temperature for a CPU to run when gaming? Is it just anything before it thermal throttles?

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>>101509121
The 11th gen was a waste of sand but it was nowhere near as bad as the skylake-x chips.

>>101509263
>Is it just anything before it thermal throttles?
Yes.

>>101509263
>AMD
Frequency starts slowly getting pulled down after ~70 C
>Intel
lol

>>101505151
You can buy a magnetizer for cheap. Also, why not watch a video of the process?

>>101509263
personally I would not want my chip to run over 85c while gaming

>>101509263
My 7600x runs quite hot, in between 85-90°. Most people told me it's normal, and it's been running like that for almost a year now with no problems.

Which monitor should I get?
AOC Gaming CQ27G2SE - 27 Inch QHD Monitor,
OR
ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ HDR Gaming Monitor - 27 Inch WQHD
Both monitors are IPS, 27 inches and 1440p and 165hz

>>101509021
The advice is already in the OP. Artic P12 or P12 Max 5-pack. Save the extra fan as a spare part in case one breaks.

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>>101507709
>>101509024
30% extra fps in call of duty (39% higher 1% lows)

>>101509437
HDR won't matter for IPS monitors with no miniLED, don't let HDR marketing be the deciding factor.
Go by professional reviews & recommendations between those two (measured response times, contrast ratio, & IPS blooming).

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>>101508908
9600X!! OMG!!!! LOOK EVERYONE

>>101509514
188 fps 0.1% lows is more than enough. Also,
>call of duty
The majority of the player base is console gamers and the entire game is balanced around 60FPS performance target.

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>>101509550
realto

>>101509531
I chose those 2 because they are both cheaper 1440p monitors in 27inches and refresh rate higher than 120hz. I just wanted to know if there any details that could make one worth more over the other.

>>101506834
haswell was last good generation intel made

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>>101509550
um, nobody is looking...

>>101509485
I'll be totally real with you, I stopped reading the OP for /pcbg/ months ago because that anti-AMD extremist and the other dude kept on putting up conflicting info and having a shit flinging contest in every thread. But also fans have never been a topic for me so I've never even noticed the fan section. Either way, appreciate it, I'll look into those as well.

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SSD SALE - EU

NEW SN5000 2TB FOR ~€90 ACROSS MULTIPLE COUNTRIES BUY BUY BUY

>>101508977
>>101508977
Was just wondering if my temps looked correct, I'm averaging 64° at 320W TDP so I assume it ain't bad?
Hot spot usually is around 10° higher, memory a few degrees lower and the highest peak is 68° all in consecutive Speed Way runs.
>Cards like the ASUS TUF & Strix or the PNY XLR8 have oversized coolers
The PNY XLR8 is the card I bought, the fan curve and noise are very impressive but I was wondering if the temps might have been bad.

>>101509897
that is very good 64° at 320w is great

>>101509869
>WD blue

>>101509927
Tom's hardware review is positive. What's the problem?

>>101509958
I just thought WD blue was the super low end shite

>>101508908
I don't think it's the right play to pair a 9600X with a 3060 12GB video card, the 5200MT/s CL40 memory kit is trash btw.
I'd save a bit longer, perhaps until the holiday sales season, and get at least a 4070 with a 7600X at a lower discount.

Is there any way to fix this????
https://www.reddit.com/r/chrome/s/cDlrlIVmvc

Also no turning off hardware acceleration is not a fix that's a fucking shitty workaround.

Got 3 M.2 NVME slots on my mobo. 2 x4 and one x2. I've filled the 2 x4 ones and plan to add the last one in a few years when they're cheaper just as a dump drive but what spec drive would you put in there?

>>101505079
Whats the best way to disable HDD's built into the PC when not using them?
I have one for my movie collection in my PC, but rarely use it. So it is spinning all day without any file being read or written.
I just want to spin it down unless I explicitly activate it. There was a program called revo sleep that had this feature, but it doesn't seem to disable my drives anymore.
Do you have any idea how to realize that?

>>101510107
have you tried the windows HDR calibration tool? this is usually what it fixes IIRC
I'm pretty sure there's a way to auto-enable HDR only when needed (in games or actual HDR content) but I forgot how to do it

>>101510302
If you're using Windows OS, go to Device Manager and disable that disk drive.

>>101510365
thanks, but you need to restart the computer everytime you activate the drive.
Would be nice if you could do that on the fly.

>>101510323
That just sets a custom color profile for Windows. What's happening is Chrome is displaying SDR videos incorrectly when in auto HDR but it shows it correctly when you scroll. If you watch Youtube in MPC-HC with YT-DLP this issue doesnt happen so its Chrome related but everyone just tells you to disable HW accel or change to OpenGL which is not a fix.

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I have an FD North, the regular non-XL version. Thinking of getting the fuckoff huge Asus 4080 Super Strix Gaming OC. Fractal claims length limit of 355 mm, while the specs on the card says 357.6 x 149.3 mm. I've measured and it looks like it will JUST fit lengthwise, but I'm worried about the width and the fact that you're supposed to have some extra space for the ultra-dangerous PCIE 3.0/3.1 connector. Will it work?

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>>101510388
>>101510302
I looked into ways of doing that a few years ago and came to the conclusion that it doesn't seem to be possible, unfortunately. It's one of the reasons I've completely stopped using spin disks.

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Fuck sake, chosing the monitor has to be the most difficult part for me building my pc, finding a reasonably priced monitor without being ripped off or the monitor having some issues with ghosting or tearing or color banding is so far the most difficult part to research. I just want a god dang monitor. So far ASUS ROG Strix XG27ACS is the best that I could find and I still feel like I chose wrong.

What's the expected release/price for the 5070? I'm considering whether I should upgrade to the 4070 super now or wait for the 5070

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Is this a decent build for 1440p gaming in the foreseeable future?
I'm way too busy with work to research and build parts myself, just want something to chill and game on in the evenings

>>101510441
>hes considering IPS
lmao

>>101510454
>Almost all the monitors recommended in the OP are IPS
Explain

>>101510388
Just unplug it. Sata is hotswappable, I do it all the time.

>>101510460
Other OPs rec differnet monitors. Some OP's rec amd gpus or intel cpus
its all ironic you know

Do I need to worry about my 13700k dying, or is it just 13900ks and the 14 series?

>>101510577
the gn video suggested the problem could be manufacturing and all 13th and 14th gen cpus went through same manufacturing process that could fuck em up

>>101510577
Yes
the degradation is not as fast but it does happen so limit your boost before it's too far gone

what are some computers?

>>101510616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TneMW2fd0dc

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>>101510616

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>>101510420
Found some guy that has done it apparently. It is literally touching the front fan frame, but it does fit. Also looks like the power connector is recessed a bit so that shouldn't be a problem either

>>101510588
manufacturing issue or not, you can see from failure statistics that it primarily affects i9s, much less on i7, and i5s are barely affected at all. logically the i5 should be more popular because it's a much cheaper chip
it's simple degradation from too much voltage

>>101510441
I'm guessing you just look at reviews and think a monitor is shit because they pointed out a couple minor issues
The reality is that whatever you buy is going to be a huge improvement if your current monitor is 5+ years old. Just get something with a decent price you won't find a perfect monitor because it doesnt exist

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>he boughted RTX 3070

>>101510616
indeed

>>101510023
I appreciate the worry, but I'm just trying to spend extra so I can play No Man's Sky at triple digit framerate. I'll upgrade the GPU for the next Hello Games title.

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>>101510785
he berjewted the 3070ti

>>101510750
I want a 1440p monitor that is jack of all trades but master of non, its hard because most of them are best at one thing at the price of having some issue.

>>101510915
I'm running a 27 inch IPS from LG that came out in 2019 and it looks great, IPS monitors that come out these days are probably twice as good

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still waiting for the next gen

>>101510936
So what should I do?

Explain like I'm retard: what happened to the graphics cards? When have they turned into triple slot abominations that require more power than a refrigerator?

>>101511040
when they moved from gtx to rtx.

>>101511040
you don't need to buy the Giga Mega Ultra $2000 abomination

>>101511040
because wage slaves are expected to pay for their electricity bill

>>101511040
>triple slot abominations
more triple slot cooler = better
cheap AIBs no longer overheat, even the shittiest ones have temps far below thermal throttling thresholds
>require more power than a refrigerator
only the 4090 and 4080S have higher power requirements than older cards, most 1080ti pushed 300w already

>>101511040
When you can keep getting moar performance by simply having moar of everything because the workloads will scale out like that the tradeoff becomes power. Any power budget freed up from node and design improvements gets shunted to having MOAR COMPUTE MOTHERFUCKER.

>>101511077
I need a card that supports two 4k displays (Excel and more Excel. FML) and is quiet. Are such wonders possible today? (Years ago I was using Nvidia NVS card. Are these still being made?)

>>101505079
I'm thinking about upgrading my 5950X to a 7800X3D (or possibly 9th gen) and using my current CPU for a home server. Would this be worth it? I don't need 16 cores on my desktop, and I'm aware I'd need a new board and memory.

>>101511119
all you need is an rx 6600

>>101507252
My I7-2600 is still working perfectly in 2024 for all new games.

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https://youtu.be/oicPuP-iDg0
Uh oh

>>101511242
>poz chasers

>>101511195
on youtube

>>101511242
is this an actually informative channel or a schizo rambling

>>101511242
I guarantee he is receiving compensation from Intel somehow.

>>101511343
It's a conman.

>>101511153
It'd offer a decent boost if you're an FPSmaxxer or play a lot of those games that get huge returns on cache. For general "high settings & GPU bound" gaming it wouldn't do much unless you upgrade the card as well.

Gamers Nexus recommends avoiding 13th and 14th gen until the problem is addressed.

>>101511435
>AMD nexus
Yeah funny they say that

>>101511443
They're literally one of the only YouTubers with integrity, they're the antithesis of Judaism.

2kliksphilip has better videos on pc hardware than long established youtube channels

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>>101511480
yes, unironically

What is the smallest watercooling case that can accomodate a Z790 + GPU build?

>>101511395
I have a 6900XT. I don't see myself upgrading for a while since I refuse to buy Nvidia and AMD seems to have given up on the high end GPU market.

>>101511443
I remember when they were called Intel shills when Ryzen 1 was released, because they were honest about the fact that Intel was still the better choice for gaming at that point.

>>101511688
In that case it'd only make a difference in naturally CPU-bound games. Not a huge one either outside of those that eat cache.

>>101511703
if you were willing to spend $300 on a cpu, sure

>>101511818
>>101511818
>>101511818

>>101511811
Even at the low end it was still true. AMD didn't catch up in terms of IPC until Zen 2 at least, and IPC has always been the most important thing for most games.

>>101511960
4 thread cpus were already a bad buy back then
this includes i3s and i5s

>>101512007
And yet they still outperformed first gen Ryzen for gaming, not to mention the pain in the ass of getting memory to run at the right speed with first gen Ryzen.

>>101512028
there were games where 8 core bulldozers outperformed i5s
with the benefit of hindsight the ultimate build would have been 1500x on b350

>>101512091
Those were rare and AMD fanboys constantly posted them everywhere because it was the only thing they could cling to until Ryzen came along. Believe me, I was one of them.

>>101511242
>Thumbnail referencing P-Core VID (amount of voltage being requested), not Vcore (rough measurement of voltage being delivered to the CPU core).
VID is worth monitoring only if the motherboard's CPU LLC setting is calibrated to match the ACDC load-line characteristics.
Very few motherboard manufacturers bother to set this up properly, they end up setting lower-than-needed ACDC load-line values like Buildzoid found out on his board samples.

That's still better than overvolting the CPU like Intel customer support suggests doing if your chip's on the verge of croaking.

Sources:
https://skatterbencher.com/2021/11/25/skatterbencher-31-intel-core-i7-12700k-overclocked-to-5400-mhz/#Vf_Curve_Deep_Dive
https://www.overclock.net/threads/asus-maximus-z690-extreme-i9-12900k-guide-load-lines-vf-curves-adaptive-voltage-by-core-octvb.1794957/#Understanding%20LLC,%20AC_LL%20&%20DC_LL

>>101505228
I have replugged two 4090's now like a dozen times each, always making sure I hear the CLICK, and have never had an issue. There are just a good few rich retards out there, sadly.