>>101537370
>EQ Guide (Measurements, Targets, Equalizer, etc.):
>https://rentry.org/IEM-EQ-Guide
WTF

>>101537399
It's common knowledge.

Is there any decent UTWS5 alternative/competitor?

>>101537445
They teased a revision of it coming soon(tm). Else not really, ifi gopods are overpriced as hell, moondorp little white / evo are moondorp'd pos, and you have kz / trn shit stuck to the bottom of brown people feet
Qudelix is different form factor but the /iemg/entleman's choice

>>101537547
Damn, thanks for the info. I really can't wait any longer so I hope they hurry the fuck up.

Finally got a chance to test that recommended Shozy P20.
pros:
>$70
>massive subwoofer like bass
>original tuning compared to what I have
cons:
>subwoofer like bass
>too spicy female vocals
>mid detail retrieval
Overall interesting. They are doing something different here with tuning.

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>>101537370
This is Dr. Harman Kardon, Jewish billionaire and pedophile, who along with Dr. Altec Lansing at CalTech, invented the acoustic suspension loudspeaker in 1953, making high fidelity audio reproduction possible for the first time.

I have the Tangzu Waner IEM and really like the bass after EQ. Problem is, there is a really annoying hiss. It's not the DAC. I tried three different DACs. The volume doesn't affect the hiss a single bit and it's there with or without sound playing. Would a new cable help? I would buy a different pair, but really want to use them since the bass is almost always a letdown with headphones/iems. With autoeq+DAC bass boost, these have such satisfying bass and I would like to salvage them. Again, not looking for another pair of IEMs, just removing the hiss since I am happy with the sound. I've tried all my other headphones and they have zero hiss. (except for my Moondrop Lan, not bad though).

>>101537370
Looking for a very cheap DAC with a USB-C to USB-A adapter included if possible.

Anyone ever try covering IEM nozzles with plastic wrap or some other type of film as a low pass filter?

>>101538594
No, the theory says it'll be far too aggressive.

I went down the tws rabbit hole..

>>101538633
What epiphanies or revelations did you have?

>>101538511
>It's not the DAC. I tried three different DACs. The volume doesn't affect the hiss a single bit and it's there with or without sound playing.
It's the DAC. IEMs don't produce sound on their own, they're simply more sensitive than headphones. You need a good low noise DAC. The cheapest good options are apple dongle, jcally jm20, jcally ap7, jcally jm40, if you've got bigger budget get something from OP or topping dx1.

>>101538633
It's not that deep, they all suck.

>>101538594
What people do to avoid EQ...

>>101538703
Try reading the whole post, NOT the DAC. I already explained there is no noise at all with my other headphones, only the Moondrop Lan, but not a considerable amount. It's a consistent hiss that never changes and sounds the same on my Pioneer receiver's DAC, TV DAC, AIYIMA DAC and the Topping D30 DAC through the stereo. All the same exact hiss. Other headphones were also the Koss KSC75, Monoprice Modern Retro, Philips SHP9600 (main pair) and the Portapros. All have ZERO noise, no matter the volume. Would a new cable at least help?

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Humn...

>>101538898
those mids are vile

>>101538898
spikes of death

>>101538880
nta but try reading his post. iems are more sensitive than headphones (more revealing of noise). no, a cable is not going to change anything unless you have a defective cable.

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>>101538906
Humn... Those mids are very expensive sounding.

>>101538996
Damn, that sucks. Better advice than telling me to buy something I don't need. It was in the back of my head considering they are directly near the eardrum, but I was hoping not. Next question, anything with similar bass minus the hiss? The moondrop Lan has a tiny bit, but bass isn't as good. Thanks again.

>>101539103
Your amps are all terrible. If you're so concerned about the hiss, follow this advice >>101538703. In the world of iems, we use DAC and amplifier interchangeably, we almost never use a DAC without an integrated amplifier.

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Trained listeners prefer less bass than untrained listeners.

>>101539199
Stop repeating what you read on the internet. It's 100% not the dac. If it was the dac, it would sound different on all of them. Some better than others. It's a consistent hiss and never changes. Also, how would you know without the model numbers of some of them? The Pioneer is the "cleanest" sounding, but lacks bass even with a +6db eq on the receiver so I can't really deal with it. Damn shame. Seems like a lot of audio advice is just a copy+paste with no real user experience which is a real shame.

>>101539199
I hate this, its fucking stupid. We should start calling them dac/amp dongles because that's what they fucking are.

>>101539330
Elevated bass masks midrange and treble detail, doesn't it?

>>101539439
I guess. The other guy is retarded though, haha it's actually funny.

>use cheap 1dd
>use apple dongle
>use eq
it's that easy bros, why is this shithole still here

>>101539439
lol, no. They are the opposite really. Dongles aren't powered, amps/dacs are powered. HUGE difference.

>>101539479
why are you still here, gtfo macfag

>>101539482
dongles are fucking powered you stupid moron, you think the current driving your iems comes out of thin air?

>>101539485
ironic since the macbook's headphone jack is actually excellent and measures very competently lol

>>101539510
No, it comes from whatever it's plugged into. Jesus Christ this place is retarded. Like new level.

>>101539565
wow good job retard you just figured out that electronics need to be plugged into something to get power
seriously how can you be this fucking dumb

>>101539441
Note that trained listeners *also* prefer less treble than untrained listeners.

>>101539640
well, 7 vs 4, that's not statistics, polling the thread is a better methodology. don't worship these psueds.

>>101539744
You are right, I just wanted to shitpost because I myself prefer less bass.

>>101539330
>posting outdated segmentation
Untrained listener moment.

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>>101539811
Called it.

>>101539811
i hate bass too, no idea why. racism probably.

>>101538831
if i could do something simple like that and avoid eq it would beat out having multiple presets. i avoid eq since my headphones and iems are close enough (but on different sides) to my ideal fr and i like both of them to have media controls so i cant just have it switch between those 2 presets

>>101539850
didn't control for socioeconomic factors, for example, rich people prefer small breasts

>>101539348
>It's 100% not the dac
It's 100% the DAC.

>>101539850
Memes aside, a trained listener is someone who can discern different frequency regions. Why would such a trained listener need to boost a specific frequency band by +8 dB? Doesn't make sense to me; I can hear subbass on fucking er2se because I can focus on specific frequency bands.

>>101539850
lmao i recently listened to an interview with sean olive where he said that headphones shouldnt be made for eq (i.e. built for low thd and smooth fr rather than just harman compliance) and then praised the airpods max for their fr.

>>101539330
>n=11

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>>101539439
Well on ASR dongles ARE classified like that. It's just a mouthful.

>>101539860
>i like both of them to have media controls so i cant just have it switch between those 2 presets
I don't understand this, what's holding you back to create two different eq presets?

>>101537445
I have a pair of utws5 and have tried moondrop littlewhite and evo and while littlewhite is technically fine the form factor can be quite impractical and it doesn't really fit any pocket in a neat manner, the evo is actually fucking dogshit in every way, from the shit massive case that barely works, through shit battery life to no built in eq option, avoid at all costs.

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>>101539920
How recent. Last I checked he's qudelixmaxxing.

>>101540071
Chudelix really needs to make a 4.4mm version. 2.5mm is obsolete.

>>101540118
There's no reason for 4.4 to exist.

>>101540128
There is no reason for you to exist

>>101540143
Independent experts debunked this claim.

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>>101540156

>>101540183
Experts say that you look like this.

>>101539510
He probably thinks of passive dongles which have been extinct for like 6 years.

>>101539963
switching between them manually

>>101540071
interview about a year ago, hes been pro-eq for a while but said that headphones should try to hit their target fr instead of being easier to eq

>>101540571
EQ is more precise (freq) and tunable (dB) than physical filters ... at some point I gave up on physical filters and gave in to some modest EQ with Q values <= 1.
>>101540637
Why can't headpos do both? If they hit the target fr, they should be easy to EQ.

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>>101540201

>>101540677
>If they hit the target fr, they should be easy to EQ.
Not how it works, especially on headpos.

>>101540571
Get two DACs and use device filter to switch EQs automatically.

>>101540071
funny how I've had those pos since the beginning of this gay never-ending journey in 2019, hated how they easily distorted and fucked with the highs when added bass eq. now the master faggot is rocking these with antiquated driver tech, and somehow he's still on his podium?

truly a reddit hobby

good iems to listen to porn?

>>101542332
1DD distorting from bass boost? BS, did you forget about the negative preamp or something.

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kek at this!
he's actually 100% right you know.

How's the cable on the mic version of the EPZ Q1 Pros? I enjoy the idea of having an extra mic without having to purchase a dedicated cable for it, but it looks lower quality in the pictures than the no mic one.

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>>101540071
imagine getting audio advice from a 60+ yo man whose hearing is degraded across the board and can't hear past 10k...

>>101542755
The most important parts of the tuning are all below 10k.

what are the comfiest over ear iems under $20? I dont care about anything else at all

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I came.

>>101542852
All up to your ear shape my dude. Try ew100 or gate.

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>>101542852
>what are the comfiest over ear iems under $20? I dont care about anything else at all
Really? That's all you care about? Well, then go for bullet-style IEMs since they're light and don't have a wire going over your ear and don't touch the bottom of the ear.
<$10 for these.

>>101542720
whats wrong with gate?

>>101542876
chuzo, make sure you take your meds.

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>>101542906
>anon specifically asks for cable over ear
>go for bullet-style

>>101542912
>whats wrong with gate?
It's garbage bro.

>>101542930
when it comes to comfort, bullet > over ear.

>>101542945
Classic newfag opinion(false).

>>101542852
tinhifi t1s. regularly available for ~$10

>>101542912
literally nothing. list is from a fucking retard and i can only surmise he has begun posting here to self-promote and advertise. dogshit "reviewer" with retard taste and that's saying something. he probably coped by saying "it's boring and too redundant" which you can say about every single pos on that list because that's what it is. morons will cherrypick whatever they "think" is better when reality is none are any tier above any other. they're all pos.

>>101542720
the OG zeros were unlistenable pos

>>101542720
>>101542912
Superchonk says resolution didn't improve from the Hola and the build is extremely Fischer-Price or Barbie like.

>>101543153
He also says that copper and silver cables sound different. Utterly worthless channel.

>>101542697
nope, it's a one trick pony that only has a decent graph and cant do anything else. any of one kz's recent 1dd releases mogs that shit ass set.
>>101542720
stupidchink is a shilling retard

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>>101543162
No he doesn't, that's ridiculous.

>>101543218
https://youtu.be/NlTJA3aUbcg?t=285

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>>101543300

>i find mid bass thin & upper mids shouty on harminge because large shnoz interaction with HRTF is different than mine
it all makes sense now...

>>101543300
wtf his name is actually superchonk, i thought you niggers called him that to make fun of him for being fat

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>>101542509
Something with a slutty anime girl.

>>101543331
we dont call him anything or ever discuss him. irrelevant retard advertising.

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While you're masturbating over graphs and EQ settings, 5000+ new KZ chads per month are hitting play and enjoying the music.

>>101543385
>5000 new cases of tinnitus per month

>>101543385
And 100k people a month die from diarrhoea, who cares.

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>>101543385
lol despite the hate, these niggas are set for life because of this pos and amazon being amazon. seriously, countless reviews on there are from church musicians. American consumers are clueless, deaf, and will just take what's given (advertised) to them.

the the fuck is pos?

>>101543421
>>101543424
>>101543497
/iemg/ is not ready to accept that KZ is actually good

>>101543531
plateau of schizophrenia/stupidity/serenity/sobriety/sovl/satisfaction

>>101543531
Psychoorganic syndrome (POS), also known as organic psychosyndrome, is a progressive disease comparable to presenile dementia.

>>101543153
he's right. toys feel better.

>>101543531
paleomagnetic obfuscated signal, when your cable isn't 5x the cost of the iem and audio quality is degraded from earth's magnetic fields

>>101543218
>dat schnoz
oy vey

I've been using xiaomemes ANC 3.5mm for years, but my current ones are starting to die and it seems they are not in stock anymore, anyone knows something similar to those?

>>101543329
I happen to have a giant nose so it works for me.

Using the JBL Endurance Run 2 with EQ its end game for any under 100$, thank god for the gras and the 5128 measurements I can use it to apply the full 2018 target

>>101543531
pricey oriental sausage

>>101543531
point of sale

>>101540128
4.4mm for this form factor is indeed fucking retarded

>>101544118
stupid black gorilla nigger ape

>>101543817
if you live in u.s. get $15 samsung akg earphones from your local walmart.

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Moondrop Dawn, Simgot DEW4X, Tanchjim Space ... does every dongle dac except the Apple adapter cut off the first beat, 0.5 seconds when the first track is played, or when there is a notification sound?

is moondrop chu 2 qa still bad? my original chu left side sounds weaker now...

>>101544884
no, it's still susceptible to the same issues, but these are somewhat solved by the removable nozzle/filter system.

>>101544843
werks on my machine. maybe something to do with the player you're using, android resampling glitch, etc.

>>101544972
>but these are somewhat solved by the removable nozzle/filter system.
I bet those are more expensive than the pos itself.

>ripping a new album and loading it onto your dap
such a nice feeling

>>101545354
what are some good dap?
also do you guys use flac or mp3? flac is so big

>>101545410
I use FLAC since I have a 1TB SD card. Anyways if you want a DAP you can go for an LG V60 or one of the SD665 midrange android DAPs, just make sure they have play store support and no reports of hiss with sensitive IEMs. Everything mostly sounds the same.
If you're a no BT/Wifi schizo there's the Cayin N3 Ultra.

>>101545451
man, 1tb isn't nearly enough for ALL my songs.

>>101545510
I just copy the albums I need on the DAP.

So I got my Mechen M30 and it works great actually. I was expecting nothing from it. I'd probably recommend it as a decent $80 DAP.

>>101543531
paradigm of sound

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>>101544843
some music players can add a bit of wait buffer before decoding the file, musicbee can do this as far as I know so maybe use that feature if available

>>101545045
the filters cost 2-3 bucks per set

>>101537370
RY4S 32Ω mmcx Plus (V-shape) - $10

>>101546040
for me it's qigong masterpiece

>>101542509
Simgot EA500LM (bright V) - $90
Imagine those saturated moans.

KBEAR Dumpling + eq = endgame

>>101538898
>>101538906
EDX Pro does not sound as bad as it graphs. I have no idea how it works, I absolutely hated similarly graphing EDA, ZSN Pro and other 1DD cheapies as they sounded unbearable. EDX Pro is by no means "hifi" pos but it is dynamic and engaging with surprisingly pleasant tonality. It it is the same way with Trifarta then it could be decent as well besides the price.

>>101549337
>I have no idea how it works
Stealth revisions.

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>>101549361
KEK

>>101545045
you can get 20 for 5 usd at shenzhen audio
and you don't even necessarily need to replace them completely, mine were clogged and i took them out and just sucked and blew on them really hard and now they sound fine again

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>>101549337
Everyone loves the Campfire Trifecta for $3375, it probably sounds great.

>>101549361
>>101549372
>>101549337
unironically this. 2024 EDX Pro is better than OG EDX Pro.
KZ’s dreg vomit drivers are getting so good that even ND subrand subhumans have made a decent IEM for 9$ supposedly.

>>101549824
it sounds like shit, only rich retards like it.

>>101550118
Being rich while also>>101550118
being profoundly retarded is based. Sounds like Trifecta must be amazing.

>using shitty bluetooth earphones
>battery is dying, only lasting 1-2 hours
>order iem a week ago
>in the meantime i can't even enjoy music for long periods
fuck, i now realize how spoiled i am with fast deliveries.
so tempted to just buy a truthear gate from amazon and get it by tomorrow so i can listen to my shit while waiting for my delci

trikektachads dabbing on 1dd pos users so fucking hard rn, love reading the mald and cope

im new to audio terminology. what does bright v mean?

>>101551602
recessed mids, boosted treble

>>101537891
Small update - I tiprolled that bitch out. Definitely worth $70 if you consider how easily you can swap filters in the nozzle and how it shares Hidizs 145 driver.

>>101542876
>Chu II
Overrated as fuck, tried them a couple times and they've been rotting in their little black scrotum pouch for months now.

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>>101551851
Now that you're at it. What's the difference between v shape, u shape and harman? Aren't all those just boosted bass and treble?

Gates arrived
not as bad build quality as it is said, it's actually pretty decent. cable is cool too.
i like the sound.

>>101552062
a vshape without bright distinction implies not as heavy treble, still boosted above "normal"
u shape implies less mid bass bloat than a v shape
harman is a specific target, harman2019v2

>>101552186
still waiting for mine.
im just so tired of wireless shit and their shit batteries that die in a year

>>101552487
yep honestly this is peak, the chinese have done it, they've trickled down high performance driver to $20.

>>101552186
white gates sound better fyi

>>101552062
Untrained ASANO

Any Onix Alpha owners and Tidal users here? That piece of shit combo keeps turning volume to 50% with every track change. And I'm talking exclusive mode.

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Who's gonna cop the JayAudio collab??

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Tanchjim Anon here,
Made some big changes to my iem Lineup. My collection had grown bloated and I couldn’t make clear usage of everything, so I cut myself down to 5 iems trying to have each excel in something or do something interesting. Always buy used/open box tons of savings.

Thieaudio Monarch mk3 (U shape tuning with a great midrange)

Sony ier M9 (my “neutral” iem which leans a bit warm. Very comfortable with stellar imaging.)

Sony ier z1r (newest edition as my V shape iem of choice. Bass response is the best I have heard. Luck to have no fit issues)

Tanchjim oxygen (harman neutral)(rip the darling) Sold my beloved darlings to a friend. Still love the tanchjim house sound. Longest owned IEM at this point.

Sony mdr ex800st (balanced stock sony sound with a very wide soundstage.)

I’ve also been trying out a ton of different daps lately. Upgraded the r5 gen 2 pictured here to a hiby r4. Highly recommend the r4 for most people. A clean no nonsense player at a great price. Invalidates the m300 imo.

The r5 gen 2 has more battery life on paper, but as I used the class A mode exclusively they were roughly on par. The r5 gen 2 is still a good player but not at msrp definitely get it on sale/used as it quite a bit slower if streaming.

I have an ibasso dx180 arriving tomorrow to see which i prefer between it and the r4. The hiby r4 is cheaper and the soc is basically the same (1gb less ram) but the dx180 has a replaceable battery which is something I HIGHLY value. So I am excited to see how it preforms and which I keep.

Demoed, daily drove or owned:
Blessing 2, jvc fdx1, er2xr, tin t2 plus, T3 and T4, moondrop starfield, unique melody mest mk1 JP edition, ikko oh10, tanchjim darling, and thieaudio legacy 3

thoughts on tanchjim kara
currently using kiwi cadenza and i love the bass on it but looking for a bit more

>>101553566
gay as fuck bro

>>101553800
It's just 95748th shartman with wonky 4,5khz peak

>>101553810
Wow I remember when you were the only one here to get the Darling, nice to see you're still around anon.

Peak setup too, basically the IEMs I'd get if I had the dosh (other than the monarch). What made you get rid of the MEST mk1?

>>101553810
>Always buy used/open box tons of savings
How do I know it's working though. If it was returned then chances are there's a defect on it.
Also how do you clean it. I have to put this in my ear and I'd rather not let it be dirty.

Do people actually hate the Simgot EA500LM? Or are they meme-ing?

>>101553887
Nobody hates the pos itself but retarded shills are annoying

>>101553800
based for hosting on github instead of hifigo sponsored squig

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Still waiting for my Queen to release a Darling successor...

you guys dont actually fall for the anime waifubait that these chink companies do, right? you actually get iems you think will be good?

>>101554043
who's tellin em...
>inb4 fox pos
STFU RETARD

>>101553814
it's fine. fit is always subjective, works good for some doesn't for others. strengths of sound are warm & clear midrange. sub bass and upper treble are divisive.

>>101537370
Whats the point in owning more than 1 or 2 good IEMs?

>>101553814
maybe you'll like ziigaat doscinco or Myer CKLVX D41 / Pula PA02 as a next step from cadenza

>>101554043
>taking satire website posts seriously
anon, better lurk more

>>101554043
An IEM is only good if it looks good and has good comfort. The sound of an IEM is an actual skill issue, it's not possible to build an IEM that will sound as good as an EQd IEM.

>>101553800
>ziigaat
already have the cincotres, so no

>>101554043
>you actually get iems you think will be good?
yes
>waifubait
yes

>>101553810
>bought the Z1R
anonchama...

>>101553800
>Jay and Fresh both have Ziigaat collabs
oh sweet mother of irony

>>101554395
It's weird that Fresh's collab is basically getting no attention though

>>101554395
for me they are the same

>>101554432
>>101554534
I find it ironic because they had that funny beef some time ago.

>>101554560
Jay isn't wrong though, shilling the 64 Volur and Topping DX9 as 'gaming peripherals' has to be a new level of retardation and brainrot

New to IEMs. Bought Kiwi Ears Cadenza, Kefine Delci, Simgot EA500LM and Truthear Gate. Will return the ones I don't like.

>>101553800
what's the price on it? ziigat has some mad variation
if it's a budget set that's neat since it's my preferred tuning
>>101553845
lmao is everything that's not bass deficient called harman these days?

>>101554817
>what's the price on it?
$299
2x 10mm DD
4x Sonion and Knowles BA

>>101554786
>EA500LM
pos. enjoy your tinnitus

>>101553566
Uhhhh proof? I get this is cheap af $20 POS with barely any QC but it’s not like this is QKZ or something.
>>101552186
I liked mine alright with standard tips. With deeper seal double flange they are amazing.

is double flange gatetard the chuzo replacement?

>>101554942
>$299
lmao, just get the Doscinco/Cincotres

>>101554960
Good thing about Amazon is that if I don't like it I can return it.

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well /iemg/?

>>101555261
what's he copying this time? or is it another shittier niche tuning that only he thinks is good?

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>>101555261
that's the graph saar

>>101555261
already preordered

>>101555183
It's the best driver you can buy under $100. Remember to EQ it. If the bass is too much, add a peak filter f=160 Hz, gain = -2 dB, Q=0.60.

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>>101555350
wrong, that's one of the early prototypes
pic related is one of the later ones, release is supposed to be close to this but few dB more sub bass and the mid bass a bit more in line with his target

>>101555370
$100 USD I assume. It's $160 CAD original price but bought it for $100 CAD after a sale and coupons. So around $77 USD.
Since I'm new I have no idea how to EQ anything or even read the graphs, but thanks for the tip.

>>101555406
ty for the correction, besides the late ear gain it looks fine and appealing for nigga bass enjoyers

>>101555441
There's a nice guide now, but really all you need to do is install EqualizerAPO for Windows, remove all the default filters, and add one filter. If you want to add other filters, check the guide first I highly recommend.

https://rentry.org/IEM-EQ-Guide

>>101555353
>preordering
holy crap and I thought I was a consoomer. People like you make me feel way better about waiting for quarks 2 to see if there’s a nice comfy 3.5mm version I can cop

>>101555513
yeah I'm getting it mostly because otherwise I'd end up just getting Scarlet Mini and this is actually both cheaper(which is baffling for a collab) and has more appealing tuning

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>>101555261
lol

>>101555550
usually I'd agree but there's really nothing to stop me here unless the tuning is different than promised which is unlikely
not like I'm going to rely on reviews, it's a basshead set, most reviewers will shit on it on principle

>>101538349
Why pedophile?

>>101555261
>>101555350
>nggar

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>>101555679
Well he bought a major magazine, despite being a famous audio pioneer. You have to have the pattern recognition to recognize a major jewish player when you see one. The hag wife is usually a cover for other activities. The ADHD thread explained this pretty well.

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>>101537370
This question has been bothering me for some time. I like the Simgot house sound, which is basically Harman. I enjoy little girls voices through that. Then there's the youtuber preference, with mids turned down in a way that significantly affects vocals. Today, much of the audiophile and luxury market follows some variation of this.

My question is, what does iemg prefer between them? Is jewish pedophile preference more prevalent, or do most people agree with the reviewers?

https://strawpoll.com/7rnzVmp1YnO

>>101556015
generally, i like lower pinna gain
sometimes, higher pinna gain is fine
imagine sticking to one sound like you're married to tha hoe lmao. i fuck around with all the flavors of the rainbow g
next

>>101556015
>I enjoy little girls voices through that
uhhhhhh
what are you using these iems for??

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>>101553849
I found the mest mk1 to sound very plastic with its treble. I think that might have potentially been because the JP edition is even brighter than the regular. I wasn’t a big fan so I sold it pretty much immediately. The monarch mk2 was in a similar boat. But that was more of a fit issue. The mk3 only makes a few shell changes and is still massive but INFINITELY more comfortable. I quite liked the mid range on the mk2 but the mk3 with its much improved bass response just kinda outshined it. Im surprised the mk2 is still rated so highly. The z1r is a gamble because if it doesn’t fit your ears then your out of luck. the m9 is on sale used a lot for like around 500 and at that price its an amazing pick up. My friend has my darlings as a compliment to his blessing 2 so it’s a good combo. Always curious about gear, so hope to try some of tanchjim’s new releases at some point.

>>101553850
I use my own ear tips for everything and rarely ever use stock tips. I don’t buy too much from stuff like headfi/av exchange but with paypal goods and services and proof of the item working should be more than enough. And if you are using a marketplace (ebay/mercari) as a buyer you have basically full protection. I have actually been getting a lot of these iems from Japan with stuff like Buyee since the yen is so cheap right now and they offer coupons often.

>>101554043
I don't buy pos for the waifu, but I would rather buy a waifu pos than a generic packaged pos.

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>>101554353
I had the same apprehension in case it didn’t fit. Did some tip rolling and found tanchjim’s narrow bore tips fit great. It kinda needs a tip that is pretty shallow so you dont need to fit the whole shell in your ear.

>>101556158
I bought mine 3 years ago and the fit was horrible so I barely used it, but Spinfit Omnis fixed most of my comfort issues. Still, why did you go with such an old and flawed flagship?

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>>101556056
You know IDOLM@STER stuff and such.
>>101556042
I just want to know what other people are in to. I don't listen to a wide variety of music you see, so it makes sense.

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>>101554043
I don't buy IEMs because they have a random cute girl on them, no.
But if it's a girl I already like, however...

>>101556214
based idol enjoyer

I buy IEMs based on a couple of things.
If it has an anime girl, then that's already a buy. If it looks good, then that's a maybe buy. Then lastly if it sounds good.

>>101556056
Loli songs are a drug.

why would you choose an iem over headphones

>>101556443
>he doesn't know

>>101556466
i dont that's why im asking
im trying to find a replacement for my old bose headphones

>>101556443
better bass and tuning for cheap
lower distortion
comfort
no head dent
pocketable
better isolation
no need to spend more on source gear
and so on

>>101556443
cute and smol
better isolation = better details
vast options for tilted stock frequency response

>>101556443
As a product, see >>101556514
If you're in it for the hobby (don't) then the IEM market is incomparable to the headphone market, it's not even close. The options are limitless and will continue to grow, while headphones have been stagnant not only in terms of sound quality trickle-down, but also in terms of build quality and more.

>>101556443
IEMs costs a lot less for the same sound quality compared to expensive headphones.
Comfort, especially during the summer.
More portable.
Better noise canceling than most headphones.
Also you don't get a dent in your head.

>>101556633
>If you're in it for the hobby (don't)
why not?

>>101556746
Not really worth it.

>>101556015
There’s a general lack of lower pinna gain iems in the market so that’s why most people would gravitate towards that. I don’t really care one way or another

>>101556746
10 dollar single dd cheap plastic iem is actually endgame. There's no reason to spend more, I learned this the hard way.

>>101556443
>wearing a fucking tiara to listen to sounds
lmaoooooooooo couldn't be me

>>101556443
Better sound, better comfort. What else would you want.

>>101557629
doesnt looks as nice though

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>>101557676
Looks better as well.

>>101557708
okay, that is cute. is that custom?

>>101557724
Yes. EPZ store on aliexpress provides customization options for their IEMs. Faceplate, shell color, translucency.

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>>101557708
Btw I turned this cable into a dongle because I like its color better than my other DAC cable. Also tried a more complex image hoping it would be less grainy, but there's still some grain.

>>101556514
>>101556597
>>101556633
>>101556663
okay im liking what im hearing
i looked through the consumer guide and am thinking of maybe getting thieaudio hype 4, i dont know if thats going overboard but they are much cheaper than the headphones i was looking at

>>101558018
>nigga deciding to drop $400 on something he doesn't even know is good
wew

>>101558018
>hype 4
Fairly safe pick. Musicality and engagement are enhanced but nothing overboard or offensive. Nice imagine and separation.

>>101558142
imaging*

Dumb question, but is there such a thing as a DAC having more than one headphone jack? I have multiple IEMs and I switch them around from time to time. Rather than unplugging and replugging them is there a DAC that I can plug in at least 3 headphone jacks to? I am not asking for all three to be able to output music so if it has a switch in it or dial that I can select which IEM I can use is ideal.

>>101558456
nah not really bro. if there are any, very limited selection or not audiophile-oriented quality

>>101558456
better check this out https://fosiaudio.com/products/fosi-audio-ph05-5-channel-headphone-splitter-amplifier

>>101558456

You can get a passive splitter if your dac can handle the lower impedance. Otherwise youre looking at desktop gear, some have separate amps for balanced/unbalanced sections.

>>101558060
eh seems pretty good from the reviews i've looked at
>>101558142
if it's good for both music listening and casual gaming then im happy
should i be looking into getting an amp as well, or is that something that can wait?

>>101558632
yes it's good for all general purposes. no, you probably don't need an amp.

>>101558632
No you dont need an amp, the hype 4 isn't that difficult to drive

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I wonder how the techs on these twshitter pos are... the fit looks terrible as per usual Snoy

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>>101558767
tuning isn't too shabby

>>101558767
>>101558780
Let me guess. It's around $600.
Looks like ass too.

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>>101558767
it does look decent, 6k enhances the "details"

>>101537370
Simgot EW200 or EPZ Q1-Pro? the former seems to go all over the place treble-wise, but looks much better on the lower side.

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>>101558811
>900+ bought in past month
sony smart
gamer market > casual wired dying bread

>>101558850
*breed

>>101558825
They're technically very similar, you can choose based on tuning. The EPZ Q1 Pro doesn't have smoother or more sparkly treble than the EW200, they're both about the same difficulty to EQ.

>>101558850
it looks so bad.
no touch controls and uses actual buttons

>>101558820
>built-in 6k + ear canal resonance
Tinnitus maximus.

>>101558456
I'd just use 3 dongles with 3 different EQs.

>>101558850
>3.6 stars
Must be total garbage.

>>101559109
I don't have enough USB-C ports for three separate dongles.

>>101558018
Get a cheap 5-20 dollar pos as well, so you get that sweet buyer's remorse.

>>101559173
Yeah, do this. Buy the really expensive one and buy a cheap one and compare the sound.

>>101558456
You can plug a 3.5 and 4.4 pos to most dacs and both will work.

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>>101559159

Simgot proper names:

EW100P: Shark
EW200: Maze
EA500/EA500LM: Pascal
EA1000: Fermat
EA2000: Boson
EM6L: Phoenix
Supermix 4: Supermix
EM10: Dream

Too bad they moved away from scientists.

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>>101559230
Soul.

I'm getting some conflicting information. You guys say that amps aren't really needed but when I go to YT and check reviewers they always use a DAC/AMP combo. Does having an amp actually makes it sound better?

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>>101559199
Why don't just one of these?

>>101559249
Reviewers use them to avoid dumbass complaints like "you didn't give them enough power", non-retarded reviewers will tell you that apple dongle is enough for IEMs.
>>101559277
To automatically switch EQs.

>>101559246
We could have gotten a shark waifu...

>>101559249
It's pretty unlikely your device has a decent amp. It might, what is the device? It's probably a good idea to get a minimal dac/amp to start: apple 3.5mm adapter, jcally jm20, moondrop dawn. The Shanling UA1 Plus is no good at all.

>>101559249
a YT reviewer likely has a large swath of gear including headphones, some of which may be difficult to drive / higher impedance. to cover the bases of having adequate source, a quality DAC/AMP makes sense.
an iem like Hype 4 really doesn't need large-power amplification. it will likely get very loud off your PC / phone 3.5mm, meaning extraneous amplification isn't needed. you can buy whatever you'd like if you're wanting to get into "audiophile" shit and enjoy the placebo of spending more money. there is no "need," and you can simply listen first with your own ears with the gear you have rather than jump the gun and buy something because guy on the internet (likely profiting from affiliate marketing) is telling you to

>>101559249
>Does having an amp actually makes it sound better?
If louder equates better then yes. A dongle will make iems dangerously loud already, a desktop brick is overkill.

>>101556198
The fit is good for me, and I like having a V-shape signature in my line up. I am a big fan of the house sony tuning and at over half off They were at least worth trying out. I like em quite a bit. The bass is still fantastic.

>>101559173
>>101559189
surely this is a meme

>>101559249
No, but having a nicer dongle than an apple dong doesn't hurt either. I like having a detachable USB-C cable, the option to change the DAC filter to linear/minimum phase, and a volume slider.

>>101559379
Not really. A lot of people getting into the hobby probably won't even notice the sound difference between a cheap IEM vs an expensive one.

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>>101559326
>>101559345
At 17 Ohm, 105dB/V, the Hype 4 is borderline hard to drive. For example, even the Tanchjim space is staring to struggle (it's fine).

>>101559379
Far from it, it's the best advice in this thread. If you listen carefully to iems with similar tuning and good vs bad techs, you get some idea for what techs are (linearly at high frequencies, an absence of masking resonances, low acoustic output impedance, and so on).

>>101559249
if you are happy with your iems you can get a dac amp, otherwise all your budget should be going towards the iems

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Well, decided to get the Atom 2 DAC and amp.
I need one anyways since I use both IEMs and speakers whichever my mood suits me.

nice

>>101559346
The bass is decent but the mids and treble are all fucked up. I mean, its not something EQ cant fix but its not competitive in todays market and never really was but if it sounds good to you thats all that matters. Im happy with them after EQ.

So, I have a question about cables.
Do those affect the sound of the IEM? Since we're talking about DACs and stuff mine has a 4.4mm output only. Is it safe to buy a cable with a 4.4mm jack without worrying about the sound quality?

>>101559511
4.4 is often noisier than 3.5.

>>101559525
Noisier how? Like the sound gets distorted? Or it gets louder?

>>101559511
If the headphone impedance is over 16 ohms, you can use the 4.4mm cable. If you have no choice, you can use the 4.4mm cable. If you have a choice, and the headphone impedance is under 16 ohms, you should try to use a 3.5mm cable.

>>101559552
Hiss.

>>101559576
No u, the bridged 4.4mm outputs almost always have equal or better SINAD. It's just the impedance that gets you.

>>101559571
>If the headphone impedance is over 16 ohms
How can I check?

>>101559622
look up the specs, linsoul.com or other sites. the maker sometimes.

>>101559635
Oh, thank you. I thought I had to calculate it myself or something.
Yeah, my Delci is 28ohms with + and - 15%. So lowest is around 23ohms. I should be okay with a 4.4mm cable.
I learned something new today.

>>101559614
SINAD doesn't tell you anything about hiss. It's calculated at max volume and 4.4 has higher volume. The real noise floor is 2x higher.

>>101559441
i use a usb dongle sent to the 3.5mm input of the atom amp
works well enough, even if it's "double amping".
saves some cash not buying a large dac

>>101559685
SINAD includes the hiss, that's why you're good if it's over 100 dB. The large dB number is why the large signal doesn't matter. And if your amp has hiss that's a whole separate problem and a factor of 2 won't save you.

>>101559703
You know the annoying thing about dongles is the occasional pop and click, and power saving mute functions. For example, the Tanchjim Space isn't free of these issues. A nice desktop dac that's free of weaknesses is pretty much worth $150.

>>101559792
>SINAD includes the hiss, that's why you're good if it's over 100 dB
You can have 110dB SINAD and still have hiss. The higher the maximum output the higher the SINAD will be.
>And if your amp has hiss that's a whole separate problem and a factor of 2 won't save you.
Yes, usually if one of the outputs hisses then both of them do.

>>101559830
You know what doesn't have pops and clicks, apple dongle.

>>101559792
>>101559884
Just look at the 50mv SINAD, that's what'll tell you if its gonna hiss. Or go by user impressions, but a lot of users are actually deaf and don't hear obvious hiss for some reason.

>>101559914
I know, the dammed homosexuals in California know how to implement a DAC chip better than the Chinese guys that Moondrop and others can afford to hire.

>>101559399
>>101559422
so basically you have to be an autistic audiophile to actually feel the difference

>>101559884
An example of good SINAD but atrocious noise floor
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-the-chord-hugo-1-dac-hp-amp.9352/
>>101559926
Yes, this is the single most important measurement when IEMs are concerned.

>>101559830
oddly enough, my TanchSpace doesn't have any popping issues, nor the Apple dongle hooked into the Atom amp.
but you are right that it can happen

>use apl dgl
>everything just...werks
so why are you retards still here for?

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link me a good balanced cable i have like $10 i dont want to spend too much

>>101560014
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005001874696470.html

https://aliexpress.com/item/1005006534493162.html

>>101559974
humn fair enough

>>101559972
Yes. That's what we've been trying to tell you. A lot of these companies like to post charts and numbers and whatever to try and trick the average consumer that their product is worth hundreds of dollars.
Start with a budget IEM. Then get a different one, maybe slightly higher up in price. Then try to compare the two. Eventually you CAN hear a difference but that takes time. Once you know who to then start buying these high-priced IEMs.
I tried asking people to try my IEMs and see which ones they liked and if they can hear a difference. Some can and some can't. Some liked the budget ones and hated the high-end ones I had and some liked the high-end ones only.
Point is, if starting to get into IEMs then don't waste money on something you might potentially not like.

>>101560089
A good pos with EQ that will immediately raise itself above any $20 pos is the EA500LM. The superiority of it's driver stands out some. It's not that amazing, the Hype 4 is better in every way.

>>101559972
If you want to maximize sound quality and minimize expenditures, then buy a relatively expensive pos, then a cheap one, and use EQ (look at the new guide in the OP, pretty gud)

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>>101560048
are these legit
i woudlnt want to end up with flimsy shit or something that breaks after 3 months because it's not soldered right

>>101560217
Does your current cable use those shielded connectors on the iem side? You don't want to mix it up. The swapable connectors are cheap, they're not amazing quality: you should only change connectors a few times for the life of the cable. You can avoid it to avoid a point of failure.

>>101560217
i'll be cutting them off and soldering hd600 2 pins because the cables for sennies are like 2x the price

>>101560318
bruh $20 is worth avoiding a soldering session, it's pretty challenging, getting a well flowed joint without melting the plastic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLiPLLPANVM

>>101560481
fuck off fatty

>>101560217
idk this one from nicehck isn't modular so it should fare better https://aliexpress.com/item/1005005048251554.html

>>101560217
I got one of those. It's definitely cheap, but it gets the job done, and it's not uncomfortable.

>>101560502
People pointed out that the Mega5EST is a fine iem, months ago. It's already in the guide. I bet crin asked for a small payout to promote it -- total prostitute.

>>101560522
Blackcat is actually stiff and heavy compared to the trn one. I own both and I prefer the trn.

>>101554984
Glad to be getting some recognition around here.

>>101560522
>>101560617
Second this, I have the Redchain and TN (8core) cables and they're both much better imo (less stiff, less memory, etc), and the friction on the modular jacks is very high, at least for mine

>>101560598
he has his own brick-and-mortar store now, it's just an announcement/ad disguised as a review

>>101560815
>disguised as a review
tbf he has said they're literally just product highlights not reviews

>>101560815
Humn, stores often charge companies for product placement and promotion. It seems dirty but it's a totally normal practice. It's why you don't select your consumer products by asking the guy at Best Buy for advice.

>>101561164
You don't ask the Best Buy guy for advice because he is a low iq minimum wage gorilla poc.

new bread >>101561430

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has anyone here tried the blessing 2 and the 3 and can tell me the differences in the low end since I've heard very mixed opinions about the dual 10mm drivers, are the 3's worse?

>>101561539
two flavors of mid as fuck shout, both severely lacking bass. disregard if you're a normal male with testosterone that likes bass, dozens of other options exist.

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>>101562174
ok, there are other iem's i'm looking at and most of them have the nozzle with 2 or 3 tubes coming out of it, unlike mine which is just a nozzle with a big filter and most debris doesn't pass it and i can change the filters. but with ones like the blessing they don't seem to have filters how would i preserve them from debris getting in them over time?

>>101562247
My Blessing 2 Dusk came with stick-on filters, but they're pretty shit and tends to come off. I think one even became the debris that entered the nozzle.
So in short, you don't lol

>>101562247
you can put a 200 level mesh filter over the nozzle to cover the tubes

i just got some grado 325x's, any good dac/amp dongles anyone reccomends for them? Can't wait for my grados.