Defile not holy Nvidia with lies of poor performance.

>>101542431
The more you buy, the more you save.
Amen.

>>101542374
Been gone for a while, have we gotten any good QD-OLED monitors with DP2.1? Or are we still stuck having to buy a $1k monitor and using compression with it?

>>101542374
is the rtx 4060 worse than an rtx 3060 ti? i had the latter but it crapped out. not sure where to look for trustworthy benchmarks.

>>101543105
The 4060 is worse than the base 3060 12gb, are you totally sure your old card is dead?

more intel shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVdmK1UGzGs

>>101543126
I don't have time to watch this now so I shall base the following opinion from recent /pcbg/ posts:

It is a nothingburger, failure rates are normal and all this content surrounding a supposed "issue" is AMD sponsored.

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>>101543178
Yeah just a small nothingburger of Raptor Lake CPUs of dying from oxidation and voltage issues.

>>101543178
We are so back intel bros!

>>101543178
50% failure rates are normal for intel?

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>>101542374
Brehs, Is it OVER? Gonna need a new display

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>>101543384
And I know it's a monitor defect and not GPU because the problem persists when the PC is off

>>101543105
Depending on when you bought the 3060 Ti, it might still be under warranty. Most manufacturers have a three year warranty

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>>101543178

>>101543178
more PCBG takes
>8gb vram is fine actually
>16gb of system ram is enough

>>101543384
>>101543400
holy shit, clean your monitor.
also rip
how old was that monitor?

>>101543363
It is for nu-intel, why do you think they have to make their new shit on tsmc. They can't run the risk of their jeets fucking up 2 architectures in a row

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Best way to sell used hardware? I have a bunch of video cards from the past 5 years I want to unload

>>101543545
4 years old, although I bought it from an office sale that closed down so likely older.

>>101543178
>nothingburger
They had to move to tsmc so they could get good performance with low power and not have to pump 1.8 volts in to the CPU, lower the frequency down to like 5.5ghz from their 6ghz+, add per core throttling and all for a nothing burger.

>>101543584
Unironically, social media. My brother usually sells his old shit and lately it sells way faster on Facebook marketplace, than on ebay.

>>101543113
yes. every hour or so, it freezes up the screen and runs at max until the power is cut.
also everything i've read says the 3060 12GB is worse than the 4060, including the recommended section in the OP lol.
>>101543461
i got it used from ebay. does the warranty transfer?

>>101543584
what kind of old video cards?

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anyone used this? this thing makes my LG C1 butter smooth

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>>101543746
>does the warranty transfer?
Probably not. Try to run an undervolt or underclock

>>101543815
Garbage. Why don't you have access to high quality upsampling and frame gen?

>>101543815
>used 2070s for 150$ + cracked LS
>better FPS than a 4060
imagine being a nvidia paycuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVdmK1UGzGs

Dude, fuck Intel. They need to be way more proactive on this. This is fuckin serious.

>>101543872
What about apps that don't have DLSS or framegen? FF7R, MPC-HC, etc.

>>101543967
They made a statement already. They will push a patch on August. And for any CPU that has degraded too far that the patch can't fix it they will RMA it and send a replacement.

>>101543757
Titan Xp, Titan V, 4090 once next gen drops

>>101544032
I would buy most/any of those
what's easiest contact?

>>101544002
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww FUCKING MID AUGUST, THANKS INTEL.
>jUST RMA LOL
They haven't been accepting RMAs

>>101544072
>They haven't been accepting RMAs
>Intel advises all customers having issues to seek help from its customer support. Because the microcode update will not repair impacted processors, the company will continue to replace them. Intel has pledged to grant RMAs to all impacted customers.
k

>>101544072
The fix right now is lower the vidd voltage

>>101543543
>8gb vram is fine actually
It is from a price to performance standpoint, RX 6600 still holds that crown for almost 3 years.

>>101544223
8GB is only fine if the card is $200 or less

>>101543995
>FF7R
Not a demanding game. LSFG could be useful for MPC-HC but there's probably better ways to do it, considering MPC-HC has VRR IIRC

Are all the intel ax 210 listings on amazon fake chinese shit or are they real?

I know this is a consult the manual question, but generally speaking are there any downsides to filling all m.2 slots? Will it affect my PCIe lanes? Are internal sound cards dead?

>>101544451
Depends on the motherboard
So yes RTFM

>>101544446
It's amazon. They have a good return policy. Best thing you can do is click on the item, and then search who is it being sold by. Some chink name, then don't trust it.

>>101543113
>>101543746
you know what just in case i'm wrong, i guess i'll ask what you guys think might be wrong, if it's the card or what. the gpu seems to operate normally even under max stress, but then it just "snaps" and one of two things happens:
1.) the more common scenario, it freezes up immediately and it requires a power cut or Windows 10 will decide to reboot for me.
2.) the entire OS starts "chugging" as a precursor to freezing up like (1) anyway. i've tried monitoring this scenario but i can't really tell if anything wrong is happening. neither the gpu nor any cpu hits 100% usage. the only pattern i've noticed is that this commonly happens when a stressing application is closed, either a game or whatever.
i don't think it's a Windows issue, but maybe it is. the card was used when i bought it and that was years ago.

>>101544451
>generally speaking are there any downsides to filling all m.2 slots? Will it affect my PCIe lanes?
most consoomer boards shaer the pcie lanes with the nvme lanes. so yes
>internal sound cards dead?
yes. get a dac instead. even the cheap $10 usb-c dongle will be better than any sound card or chip in your mobo

if i put a different cpu into a motherboard, or any other component like say ram, should i clear the cmos beforehand?

>>101544530
Try doing a stress test under a Linux live image, see if it crashes while running glmark2

>>101544599
i would, just to be safe.

>>101544616
what can go wrong? what if i'm testing a single motherboard with a few different components

After seeing the Velka 3, I've decided to go with a ~4L ITX case for my server build. Is the velka itself a good ITX case, or is there a better option people would recommend?

>>101544649
clearing CMOS resets your bios to default settings. so lets say you overclocked your CPU by A LOT and put in a new CPU that can't handle it, it can get fried. could also happen with RAM but with RAM the system tends to just not boot up.
if you KNOW you left all your settings at default or safe levels then you should be fine.
but still, better safe than sorry.

>>101544686
ah i see what you mean. i never bother with overclocking so that tends to leave my purview. thank you!

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>runs even your R5 3600 at 65c during light multitasking and web browsing
nothing personnel

>buy nvidishit
>LHR cucked out of the box
>forced to use an Electron app just to configure the GPU
oh no no no ahahahahahahaha

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Requirements:
>x86
>USB3 port for a Wi-Fi dongle
>100Mbit/s or faster wired Ethernet, preferably two interfaces but one will suffice
>if there's only one wired interface, another USB(2) is needed
Trying to build a router here. Had it with the ARM shit that randomly partially breaks down - gave picrel a go numerous times and it just keeps failing me.
mATX, any sort of ITX, so called "mini computers" are fine. Back in the day there were some Intel Celeron motherboards, are those a thing any more?

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>>101545401
>Back in the day there were some Intel Celeron motherboards, are those a thing any more?
There are some N100 intel boards that only use like 10 watts

>>101542374
Are there any GPUs with built-in PCM cooling?

>>101545622
The new XFX cards use ptm7950

reasking TL DR wanna try an ultrawide before that i had a 21 fhd, now i have a 24 qhd. nice ppi on this
i recently tried a 27 qhd, ppi was not bad, but id rather have it wider on the side or curved for some reason

The ONLY one that would fit properly in my setup is a 29inch 2560x1080 the 34 inch is too large. And it has 96 ppi
I havent used anything under 110 ppi in a while. Most people seem to be suggesting to ignore and stay at 27 QHD. or somehow invest in the 34 inch.

Are they wrong or is 96 ppi that bad?

>>101545651
>>101542529

>>101545421
Yeah those, totally vanished from local PC stores a decade ago.
Quick glimpse at *Amazon* though:
>N4020
>J4125
>N4640G
>N4000
>N3450
>N3350
And numerous other CPU options on more or less chinky platforms. But trying to escape the chinkyness, should I be looking at brands like Asus?

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Still can't find the answer what does red light near VGA mean.

>>101544898
Why you guys buying processors in boxes? Do you really need useless cooler?
I've been buying OEM processors without cooler my whole life.

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>>101545786
>should I be looking at brands like Asus?
yeah, I found this one by asrock that uses regular dimm instead of sodimm and a barrel plug instead of atx 24 pin, so it should be a lot easier to set up.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813162133

>>101545957
GPU error.
Could be a false positive though. Do you have a monitor hooked up? Sometimes those light up when it senses that it doesn't have a monitor. Sometimes mine does that when I turn on my PC first before my monitors. Since my PC boots up rather quickly it still thinks my monitors are turned off.
Restart your PC. Does it happen all the time?

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why are people so inconsistent with graphics cards recommendations?
Are there really that many moving parts, or are people just retarded?
Why do people day cards like the 4070 ti or something can run 4k easy and then list Rachet and Clank as one of the games they tested. Why not just look at the most demanding games out there and measure it from there. I understand not everybody is going to play them and some people don't play new games at all, but those people still have a 1080 ti so they aren't really part of the discussion, but think about it like this: Games are only become more damanding at an exponential rate, so if the current gen can't even keep up with a game that came out almost 4 years ago (cyberpunk) at the resolution it was advertised as, then how is it supposed to run newer titles in the future? Do people expect you to upgrade to a new card with every iteration?
I just want to buy something, and have it last way into the future, is that too much to ask?

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Fuck it. I've accepted I'll always be a macfag. What do I do with my expensive PC? sell it in parts or sell it whole? 1TB SSD, 32GB RAM, NVIDIA 4070. Can't remember the CPU but it's AMD Ryzen 5 something.
Call me a faggot or whatever, but I used a PC with 10x better specs than my Mac Mini M1 for a year and I still missed MacOS the entire time.
Yes it was very performant, yes you can actually play games on it, Winblows is still shit and I'm not gonna torture myself with any linux distro when I have a real UNIX that just werks in my desk.
Tim Apple... I kneel.

>>101545957
It means clean me

>>101546037
Not all games are optimized. An unoptimized game that came out 5 years ago can still run like shit on newer cards compared to newer games that are optimized.

>>101544667
you could probably make your own out of cardboard brotherman.
If airflow and temps aren't a problem and you're not going to shove a big gpu in there, then there is no reason not to not put it in a shoe box and call it a day.
If you had mountains of hard drives that would be a different story.

>>101546063
Pretty sure you can install MacOS on a PC.
Maybe I'm wrong though.

>>101546063
>ummm actually I'm le chad and you're le virgin

>>101545988
>regular dimm instead of sodimm
I'm completely fine with SODIMM and barrel jack though, it's the absolutely crazy nonsense I'm trying to avoid.

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>>101545712
i wished for a different answer also

>>101546123
Oh, sorry. Here you go:
Yeah. 96ppi is fine.

>>101546079
it's used to be possible (they called it "hackintosh") but now with the new Silicon chips it's either impossible or a huge asspain
>>101546090
Yes. Or maybe not. All I know is I wanna get the most money out of my PC as I get rid of it. Am I better off selling it to some clueless kid for 2k on offerup or selling individual parts on ebay?
keep in mind my diet of soilent makes me weak so I can't defend myself if some local buyer wants to beat me up and steal it

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>>101546138
great really helpful

Why do they keep delaying the RT, 5090? Is it going to disappoint and still cost $1849 + tip?

>>101546413
why bother? people are still buying 4090s

>>101546413
They're prioritising their wafers for datacentre chips
Not like it matters since they dont have competition anyway

>>101546413
Why sell a GPU for $2k when you can sell an AI GPU for $10k

>>101546436
Cause my 4070 super still sucks at pcvr on the quest 3.

>>101546498
Then they should announce they are leaving the games division if it is that much profitable to do so. I doubt it as simple as that.

I am looking for a 32" (or more) 4K, non-curved 240Hz monitor. Since OLED apparently still isn't there for productivity, and because I don't want to babysit one anyway, I am looking for something non-OLED, but still premium.

What are my best options? The Neo G8 ticks all the boxes but is curved. Are there any decent alternatives to it?

>>101546413
What do you mean "keep delaying"? It's not even 2 years since the last generation. A delay would be no cards in february

>>101546776
They were ready to drop them in Q3 but delayed it due to no available gddr7 until next year.

>>101546791
because they tried playing memory makers against each other but got burnt when samsung's gddr7 failed their verification tests
so now they have to go running back to micron begging for gddr7 and are back to square one

>>101546644
AFAIK that's about it. If you drop down to the 144Hz range there's plenty of IPS panels but It's hard to call basic IPS "premium" in 2024.

>>101546893
Didn't both micron and Samsung say that gddr7 won't be available until early 2025? Only thing about Samsung failing nvidia tests I heard about was that their HBM failed and they had to retry until they were finally accepted recently.

Are there any good cases that come with dust filters? Alternatively, are there dust filter attachments I can get? I've been using a Fractal Design Define r5 for the past 8 years and, ignoring the meme """silent""" padding (that doesn't work at all), I've generally liked the case and been very happy with the built-in dust filters.

>>101547041
Just get another fractal case they all have good dust filters imo

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I'm the anon from yesterday with the GPU that stopped working
it's still not working
>ran DDU
>switched mobo slots
>booted up bios and checked that PEG is enabled as the default (it is)
>scanned device manager (it used to show the card greyed out, now it doesn't even do that since I uninstalled the drivers
>tried installing the NVIDIA drivers - no NVIDIA card detected
it fucking crapped out didn't it

>>101547164
Do the fans spin up when powered on?

>>101547164
boot a linux live usb and post the output of lspci (you can take a picture of your monitor, run it in the terminal)
https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop
if it doesn't show up there, you are fucked

>>101547164
did you connect the 8 pin powe connecotrs

>>101547164
Never had this issue with my AMD GPUs

>>101547164
huh, seems like a weird NVIDIA bug

>>101547164
RMA

Good build for a Linux machine that won't be used for gaming/ai/video production etc but still want it to be fast while doing shit?

>>101547599
7600
2X16 6000 DDR5 ram
B650 mobo whose ethernet/wifi/audio chips don't spazz out on linux
2tb good ssd like sn850x or kc3000
No need for gpu
Just get a decent 300+ PSU
Case of your aesthetic choice

>>101547599
5500GT on B450

>>101547599
>>101547640
Or wait a week for 9600

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>>101547640
Uhh..for reference my gaming build is 13400 RTX4060 16GB RAM...

>>101547599
>ryzen 7600 (now) or 9600x (next week)
>any 2x16gb ddr5 ram
dont pay extra for faster ram
>a620 board
find one with enough usb ports, ssd slots that you require
>1tb or 2tb m.2 ssd
get something with TLC nand. nm790 is a decent budget option
>650W psu
get a budget tier seasonic, corsair or evga psu. all are overkill without a discrete gpu

>>101547680
Get a system76 mini pc?
Or find a comfy mini pc from amazon with amd cpu+igpu that has enough specs and install your distro of choice in it.
>>101547687
>a620
Don't recommend that garbage.
Never worth it, even for low end builds, period.

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>>101546008
> Do you have a monitor hooked up?
Everything is just werks. There's why I'm asking.
> Since my PC boots up rather quickly it still thinks my monitors are turned off.
It seems this might be an issue but it wasn't before.
>>101546066
It's quite clean.

>>101547680
time to build an AM5 system, carry over your SSD and GPU.
put your 13400 + mobo + 16gb system ram together as a office box.

12900 is a safe buy right?
My old PC is shitting itself and I am not going to use AMD ever again (until Intel or Nvidia shit in my bed).

>>101547954
corporations don't have any loyalty to you, you shouldn't have any to them

Place your bets on used 13th and 14th gen being on ebay for suspiciously good prices within the next 6 months? As we know consumers have the memory of a goldfish so what a deal!

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>>101545421
>>101545988
4chan hivemind strikes again, my N100M (that ITX board but mATX with more PCIe slots) is apparently finally getting here today after like two weeks of waiting for it to come in. Guess I'll report back in the next couple days.

>>101547954
avoid anything intel from 10th gen and newer.
>12900
massively outperformed by ryzen 7600
>I am not going to use AMD
bait
just stop breathing

>>101543050
That one aorus monitor

Probably a stupid question, but:

My case came with several holes for stand offs. Some marked I for m-ITX, and some marked M for m-ATX. Some of these holes already had standoffs in. I transferred the standoffs what were in I holes to the M holes. There are only 5 stand offs. Is 5 enough? I know motherboards have 9.

>>101548633
look at your board. the standoffs go where the mounting holes are.

>>101548633
it should have come with more, if it was new check the hard drive bay

>>101548667
>>101548676
I have three more standoffs, but all the remaining mounting holes are for ITX and I'm using mATX.

>>101548745
look at your board. the standoffs go where the mounting holes are

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>high end 50 series probably pushed to CES 2025, mid range even later
will a 3060ti bottleneck with a 4790K? I need a replacement or I'll lose my mind

>>101548753
I hope you enjoy stuttering Anon.
Sell your old PC, even 12100f will be much faster.

>>101548753
"Bottleneck" doesn't mean much. It depends on the game, resolution, settings. Even a 14900K would "bottleneck" a 3060Ti in let's say League of Legends, that game doesn't stress the GPU at all.
That said, in modern games designed for current-gen consoles, a 4790K isn't that great: the industry moved to 6C/12T as the "expected minimum". In last-gen games designed to run on PS4, the GPU should be the bottleneck in the vast majority of cases, even with your CPU.

>>101548752
The mounting holes are only 5 labelled M and I think 5 labelled I. All of M is now has stand offs, so I don't know if I'm meant to use some I holes. My board doesn't arrive til Friday anyway, I'm just prepping.

>>101548753
it will be suboptimal
my 4790 got only 120 fps in battefield 1

>>101548753
to put it into perspective...
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_4790-vs-amd_ryzen_5_1400
yes there will be a bottleneck, I assume you're getting it used?

>>101548633
I'm a fucking retard, the ITX ones included are common to m-ATX I think. I relocated them for naught.

>>101548978
>install standoffs where they are needed
>remove standoffs that might short circuit anything
>do what you will to excess ones
Does it have to be more complicated than this?

>>101549039
The case had 9 mounting points. 4 were marked I, and had a standoff in. 5 were marked M, and no standoffs except in one. The instructions said I holes were for mini-ITX, M for micro-ATX. All four I holes already had standoffs in. I moved them from the I holes to the M holes, and wondered why I only had 5 points to put a standoff for micro-ATX. I have since learned that mini-ITX locations are common to micro-ATX too, so I had removed four stand offs, moved them elsewhere, and didn't understand why the top left corner had no standoffs for mATX. I have since repopulated the mini-ITX standoffs I took out, using standoffs from the included bag,

I retardedly misunderstood the instructions and created more work for myself than necessary.

i want a switch to amd from intel
should i wait for x3d? also when will it come out?
the new gen that is
Also, what am5 mobos are GOOD GOOD, like top tier money is no question
i want to be free of the jew
never again

>>101549146
B650M-HDV/M.2

>>101549146
The x3d chips are your weapon of choice if gaymen is your primary use case.

>>101549146
wait for x870e boards
then get stuff like the asrock x870e taichi, asus x870e crosshair extreme, msi x870e godlike or gigabyte x870e aorus xtreme
>should i wait for x3d? also when will it come out?
for gaming? absolutely.

>>101549268
>asus
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Just give me an x870(e) board with 8 sata ports goddamn it can't be that hard and it is part of the spec.

>>101547164
Uhhhh turn on dlss quality??

>>101549146
>should i wait for X3D?
If you don't know WHY you would want an X3D and what the benefit is technically, just get a 9700X. It will perform 95% the same except for autistic games that cache spam. Don't know what that means? Get a 9700X...
>Also, what am5 mobos are GOOD GOOD
As the other anon said, X670E/X870E Aorus, Asus and ASRock Taichi. I would suggest getting a board with all Intel NICs to avoid Realtek and Mediatek bullshit.

>>101545421
I have a Odroid-H4U with an N305, it's perfectly fine as a desktop or a home server. They sell a case for it letting you have four 2.5 drives, and you can use the m.2 connector for 4 lanes of PCIe 4.0.

7900 GRE is priced the same as 4070 super in my country but 4070s has a bunch of proprietary features that puts GRE to shame. What's the point in getting AMD anymore, even?

>>101549598
Working drivers.

>>101549629
I don't use Linux anymore.

>>101549660
Yeah, it would be nice if Nvidia offered working windows drivers.

Nshartia is going to repeat sad experience of shintel with this 5xxx generation soon.

>>101549724
>AMDrone angered by their own irrelevancy
SAD!

>>101549598
Memory bus and VRAM, 12GB is too low in 2024

>>101550077
*for 1440p

>>101550094
Yes, it think it has enough of VRAM at 1080p

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friends, I really wanna print one of these and put a mini pc inside. Would be cool playing some modern games on its 8" IPS display like that

Is this the new intel CPU? Unreviewed?
https://www.amazon.com/Gaming-Desktop-Compact-Discrete-Graphics/dp/B0D7LX3NW3/

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Day 475 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

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>bought 3070 off ebay
>open up box, see specs of red and white behind fans
>take off shroud and fans, see picrel

is this a big problem?
will this affect perf/heat dissipation a lot?
how do i fix?

>>101550228
Thats rust, anon. You were sold a wet GPU.

>>101550240
is it fucked though?
on the fins its only 1 or 2mm deep
got a bit of it off with a toothbrush and vacuum, doesnt seem like there is rust anywhere else

>>101550287
lol it might work

>>101550376
im thinking its either been used in a mining rig or by a surfer, havent fired it up yet as mid build so will give results tmrw

>>101550142
If you 3D print one, make sure to use something that can take high temperatures. 3D printed cases tend to warp.

>>101549598
4070 super is objectively worse than the 7900GRE. read the specs.

>>101550460
Is a 4080 better than a 7900GRE?

>>101550485
4090 > 7900xtx > 4080 super > 4080 > 7900xt > 4070 ti super > 7900gre > 4070ti > 4070 super > 4070 > etc

>>101550512
Where does the Intel GPUs fall?

>>101550583
decent budget options I guess
their upscaler is better than amd's

in general theres no reason not to buy nvidia

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Does /pcbg/ vertically mount their GPUs?

>>101550125
A 15 year old resolution for 15 year old games. Got it.

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>>101550680
If god had intended for vertical gpu mounting he would've written it into the ATX spec.

>>101550723
I don't think the ATX spec was written with these beefcakes in mind either.

4070S best bang for your buck currently?

>>101550723
>all that wasted space
>all those unused slots on the mobo
>all that water cooling for a cpu running at 50w
>white interior with random colored components
>amd gpu

someones parents oughta be disappointed

>>101550747
>all those unused slots on the mobo
The only connectors not in use are 2 pcie slots - every other connector from sata, to fans to nvme is occupied.

>>101550583
Don't expect Intel's GPUs to be that competitive desu. The Arc A770 is about on par with a 3060ti/RX 6700XT in a best case scenario and can lag well behind both cards in other titles, whether due to architectural or driver issues its still unclear.
I still like the A770 as a budget 16GB card, and there is promise in Intel's GPU division because XeSS blows FSR out of the water as a hardware agnostic upscaler, with much better image quality and far less artifacting in comparison. But I'd never recommend it over an Nvidia card as your main driver either, due to a lack of VR support, and because their drivers are still a work in progress. They have improved massively over the past year though, but they're more for tinkerers that either want to mess around or are on a very tight budget and dont mind troubleshooting.

>>101550709
Gotta have more VRAM to run higher res

>>101550742
4080 super

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>no unique bottlenecks like vector performance
tee hee

>>101550776
>The only connectors not in use are 2 pcie slots
literally could have gotten a cheaper matx board then

>>101550742
If your performance target is AAA 1440p 60-100 FPS with upscaling then yes.

>>101550863
I'm 80% sure there were no matx boards on the market when I bought that mobo.

>>101550909
>60-100 FPS
I want 144 FPS though. Anything below 120 is so ass.

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>We at Alderon reported a near 100% failure rate on our side. I can see how the failure rate would start to get reported at 30-50% and slowly increase. Within 3-4 months our CPUs went from fine to failing. We managed to make a few systems stable, however they were at a crawling speed in terms of performance and effectively un-usable for production workloads. They would instead crash every few days and once a week compared to every 2 hours.

>The really crazy thing about our server use case is a lot of the machines never saw load of above 50%. We would only run 6-7 game servers on a 14900k. Most of the servers were idle most of the time due to them being spare capacity incase our player count went up.

>I'm very concerned that a lot more CPUs will be degraded before this possible fix is released in August.

>Not to mention our server providers RMAs are getting rejected.

>>101544446
Install the addon cultivate so you know what's chinkshit and what's not on amazon

https://www.wecultivate.us/

I use it and it has improved my shopping experience on amazon

>>101550981
Was it really necessary to post the face of a homosexual (really, he is gay) german with that text?

>>101550981
if intel actually doesnt go and claim they'll do mass recall of degraded cpus they'd get sued

>>101550981
>using non server chips in a server setting
lol
lmao
no wonder their RMA requests are getting rejected

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>>101551008
We'll cross that one off the list pat.

>>101551004
They're not recalling it. Most likely do a case by case RMA.

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>>101544446
>>101550987
Looks real

>>101551024
but the reports have been that they're reluctant with rmas even if people claim issues

>>101550934
You'll need to up your budget or lower your standards for graphics (more DLSS, lower settings).

>>101551025
Just to be clear if both the seller and brand is from anywhere not China, it's usually okay.

>>101551072
>6ghz
>what do you want 5.5 for?
>5.2 is enough for anybody
>4800mhz ram is a feature!

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>>101551008

>>101551072
Intel advises all customers having issues to seek help from its customer support. Because the microcode update will not repair impacted processors, the company will continue to replace them. Intel has pledged to grant RMAs to all impacted customers.
>Intel has pledged to grant RMAs to all impacted customers.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-finally-announces-a-solution-for-cpu-crashing-errors-claims-elevated-voltages-are-the-root-cause-fix-coming-by-mid-august

>>101551236
well sure it says that but it doesnt mean your rma actually goes through

>>101551236
Just don't claim it more than twice or you'll be rejected and left in the cold

>>101551264
Stop abusing the system then.

>>101551290
Tell that to these anons
>>101544022
>>101547707

>>101551304
there could be an element that theres zero point offer rmas to people before the microcode update is out
>heres a new cpu
>oh the cpu broke itself
>heres a new cpu
>oh the cpu broke itself
>etc.

>>101551008
>n-no, i9s can't be deployed on continuously!
>think of the poor cpu goy!

>>101550981
It's really crazy
Buildzoid had access to the same servers and wendell and in his recent videos, something like 30 samples died in 2 months from running a specific type of workload (minecraft server hosting) that boosts 2 cores to 6ghz at low current/temp draws but high voltage from the 2T boost

So the degradation problem seems to be extremely workload dependent which is why some people seem to "run into" broken 13th/14th gen chips a lot

>>101551314
>oh the cpu broke itself
>heres a new cpu
>oh the cpu broke itself
>etc.
That's what I'm thinking.

The chips being sent out to fix the issue are golden while in the box, but as soon as they go into a system and the VID tells the mobo to give them 1.6v to load the Windows startup screen or whatever with single-core boosting they insta-cook themselves. Since the issue is voltage, not wattage, even setting all the safe/default Intel power limits in BIOS won't help either (again because single-core boosting behavior in light workloads can make the CPU want to demand 1.5v+ on what is 50-60w total chip package worth of consumption). Only locking all the cores to something like 5.0-5.2 Ghz Max seems to be the safe option before the microcode patches start rolling out in a few weeks.

>>101551412
Kek, then the best solution would be to send these people top 0.1% 14900K silicon with a 6ghz VID of 1.393v

Cancelled Corsair DDR5 5200 CL40 RAM for Patriot DDR5 6000 CL36. A good move?

>>101551410
>Buildzoid had access to the same servers and wendell
Assuming that is meant to be "as wendell" we don't know that buildzoid's sauce is the same.

>>101551514
Its the same
He quoted the same 83C max temp

>>101551487
Can't you get some nice DDR5 6000 CL30? they cost like $95 or so, hardly any difference in price with the slower DDR5s

>>101551487
both are shit.

>RTX 4070 Super
Which of the cheaper cards are good? I'm considering Asus Dual, Gigabyte Windforce, and Inno3D X2/3.
Gigabyte is the cheapest, then Asus with current rebate, and Inno3D is most expensive.
Should I go for the Gigabyte? Only thing I'm worried about is the pcb cracking and their abysmal warranty...

>>101551551
PNY and Zotac are actually really good.

First time trying to build
Looking around online I found a setup that looks good and would fit my budget, (1 ~ 1.5k)
Someone tell me if it's good or needs any changes please
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hPXbmD
Would be mostly for playing new releases

>>101551551
Even the worst models are fine, in that they run rather hot and loud, but not unbearably so and won't throttle.
PNY Verto, Gainward Ghost, Msi Ventus 2X and Inno3D X2 are probably the worst.
The windforce and Asus dual are a solid tier above those due to having better (or more) fans and more sizeable heatsinks.

>>101551730
do get a 2tb nvme ssd. itll take the #1 m.2 slot and you can partition it and games and stuff take a lot of space

that cpu doesnt really beg for aio, a thermalright cheapo air cooler will do
also note that amd is releasing new cpus in a week and might impact pricing. 7800x3d is obviously much better for some games and will be relevant for longer, 9800x3d comes in few months

gpu is pretty weak, 4070 super is what people rec these days and is most important for new releases

some 750w corsair psu might be better for efficiency and upgradability

>>101550228
As long as the corrosion is limited to the fins you should be okay, but this could be indicative that the entire card was either in a super humid environment or has water damage. I'd do some basic function tests then do some significant stress testing. If it passes both, you're fine except for aesthetics.

If any step along the way you notice anything wonky... pray you paid with PayPal.

>>101551658
PNY right, also considering that one but similar price to Inno3D.
Zotac idk last one I had was a hot and loud mess...

>>101551789
Guess I'll just settle for the Asus Dual or Gigabyte Windforce and hope the card doesn't shit the bed considering their RMA.

>>101551730
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ndF8pB
Cheaper cooler for a cheaper CPU. No need for an AIO, especially a 240mm one.
Cheaper RAM. Avoid Corsair RAM. Overpriced garbage just for the fancy colors.
More expensive NVMe. 512GB is really not enough for modern games anymore.
4070 Super for modern games.
750w PSU for the 4070Super.
This can easily ply 1080p games at high FPS or 1440p at 60-120FPS.
Also no case?

>>101551814
>>101551955
Damn I guess I'll save another month for a 4070 super then
I do have a 1tb hd so I thought of just keeping my games there until I can upgrade
Any case recommendations? I don't care for any flashy rainbow lights but I don't really know how to tell which cases can fit the setup

>>101552060
>anything on spinning rust in current year
Jesus fucking Christ.. honestly just buy a cheaper nvme oder simple SATA SSD instead.
For just games you do not need nvme.

>>101552060
fractal north looks cool and is pretty cool

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I have an unusual problem. I ordered some parts online. The parts themselves are fine but the paper with the information about the purchase was not attached. The seller sent the paper today but by mistake he has given me paper with information about his purchase of given parts in bulk. What do I do now?

>>101552136
Tell them you got the wrong paperwork and send it back.

>>101552088
>>101552104
Thanks anons

>>101552136
use the paperwork to defraud the oem

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>>101542374
We got too cocky intelsisters...

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>>101552412

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>>101546140
Why don't you sell the GPU and use the machine as a file server?

>>101552412
>>101552436
>no ht but still manages to match the 14900k
we are so back bros
amdsissies will kneel before lioncove's massive performance lead

>>101552607
I can hardly believe that massive 0.95% increase in SC performance

>>101542374
Will I get yell at for asking for a mice recommendation? Run of the mill mices buttons will stop working properly after a year or so of usage and I barely game.

>>101552759
Get a cheap $5 mouse then. Replace them when they break. $5 per year for a new mouse is cheaper than buying a $100 mouse. You have to buy a $5 mouse per year for 20 years before you even get to $100.

>>101552759
Logitech G203 is pretty good if you want something cheap what will not shit itself after 2 weeks of use.

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Just got a new Gen 4 SSD (SN770 2TB), even though it's not a high end drive it still needs a heatsink. Without one it was hitting high temps (85C on the controller) very fast just idling at the desktop. I had to dig up the SSD cover for my Mobo and now it's sitting at 65C while transferring large files.

>>101552607
I agree the performance is impressive

>>101552797
I see the point, but it's too much waste, and I already have some half worn equipment I think I'll throw away

>>101552840
I can check it out, but logitech falled from my grace after the last keyboard I bought them. It was fucking awful

>>101552916
>m-muh waste
i honestly don't care about the earth pollution at this point. i'll be dead before it severely affects me
but you do you, i guess

>>101552916
Everything Logitech makes is shitty or overpriced except for their mice.
Even random chink manufacturers make better mechanical keyboards than Logitech.

>>101552412
>only 250w
AHAHA AMD DEAD AND BUT ZEN5 BTFO

>>101552944
Shit shouldn't be as disposable as it is today. anon. It's a matter of principle
>>101552957
I wonder your thought on speakers, last year I retired some that gave 11+ years of service

How do I keep my room at around 21 to 22 degrees celsius when using my PC? When I casually browse the internet it increased my room temperature to 24 degrees and when I'm running programs that require more resources it goes up to 26 degrees. Once it got up to 30 degrees. Whats the solution?

>>101553374
If opening windows is not enough then install a mini split in your room, even a 9000 BTU should be enough.

>>101552412
>slower than ZEN5
>will come months later
>will be more expensive

Literally what is the point?????

VA or IPS?

>>101553374
you need better ventilation in your room. if ac is not an option then open window + fan or get a honeywell chiller.

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>>101553492
Just imagine this but current.

Pc illiterate here, my friend sold me his old pc and the mobo has wifi and bluetooth, can I use it for something useful? I though I could pair my mouse or headset, but shit needs the dongle anyway.

I was just about to buy a 13400 yesterday and didn't. I know it says these non-K options are not affected but what if they just haven't been reported yet? I'm looking at AMD APUs and Intel 12th gen now.

>>101553569
Just because something is wireless doesn't mean it's bluetooth.

>>101553492
To help advertise TSMC's node superiority

>>101553625
Amd chiplet ryzens have an igpu

>>101553705
I don't need something fancy right now. I'm just looking at refurbished prebuilts. I haven't had a desktop in 6 years.

>>101553625
13400 is technically much more similar to Alder Lake and is basically a 12600K.

Best 27 inch 1440p monitor in the $300-$500 range?

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am I sagging bros?

>>101553928
Dell G2724D which is less than your budget.
Or AOC Q27G3XMN. A bit better with higher refresh rate.

>>101554067
Carpeted floor? Weight of the PC could still be pushing down on the carpet. Also check the level of the actual PC itself. If it's the same as your GPU you're not sagging. You also use the bracket so I doubt your GPU is sagging.

>>101553873
i read that for the lower end 13th gen they actually swapped stuff from raptor lake depending on the date it was manufactured or something and that they could theoretically be affected.

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kek

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>>101554105
>Carpeted floor?
nope
>Weight of the PC could still be pushing down on the carpet.
inb4 my house is sagging, I'd rather buy a new PC than foundation repair lmao
>You also use the bracket so I doubt your GPU is sagging.
I watched too much 4090 gore and now I'm highly paranoid.

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>>101554161
If your desk or case or even the floor is at an angle your GPU might seem like it's sagging. That's why check the level of your desk, case or w/e.

my 2-fan GPU doesn't slant until I screw it into the case
adding some thin plastic washers between the GPU backplate and the case's screwholes/threads fixed it

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is the lower rear fan of the lancool 216 a good idea? I cant tell if its completely retarded or a great idea

Whenever I enable the VMD controller in my BIOS to use the Intel rapid storage technology to make a raid array the drives are suddenly "No device found."
I disable VMD and they work again.
I am using the Z790 AORUS ELITE AX if that helps.
Am I just fucked when it comes to setting up a sweet RAID array?

>>101554266
gimmicky and adds more noise outside the case.
also annoying when i use multiple cables there

>>101551008
i don't have to baby my ryzen to ensure it survives running a minecraft server for 3 months

Was buying a 13th gen Intel chip a mistake bros?

>>101547164
Funny, this has only happened to my AMD cards

Anyone ever read the comments on Wccftech or VideoCardz articles? Most of the articles get few comments, but the ones that relate to Intel/AMD get hundreds and it's all about fighting over performance. I can never bring myself to care because in 18 months time your expensive part will be last gen.

>>101554394
it's always a horde of 85IQ thirdies lol

>>101554394
>Anyone ever read the comments on Wccftech or VideoCardz articles?
/g/ just scrapes those comments for content.

>>101542374

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYfBxmBfq7k

Holy fuck it's actually over for Intel.

>>101554435
>literal who
>unsubstantiated claims
>pointless hour long video
>known AMD shill
Yeah totally organic post you've got right there anon.

>>101554467
Cope harder shill LMAO. He's actually saying it's 30% failure rate in 2-3 months some other sources say 50%.

>>101554467
Jay is an Intel shill and he's still reporting this. GN started the whole exploding AMD shitstorm are they also shills? This is going to get so ugly.

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>>101554394
The currytech comment section is a cesspool, completely worthless. The videocardz comment section is better but that's not saying much

>>101553928
Overspending, the Q27G3XMN is the best 1440p monitor worth buying (outside of maybe specialty e""""sports""""" cases), and it's under $300 at MSRP

>>101553625
13400 is rebadged 12th gen, so it's fine

>>101553505
There are only a few worthwhile VAs. VA is better than IPS if you can find a good one (e.g., Samsung Odyssey Neo G8), but if you're buying a cheap 1080p monitor or something similar, stick to IPS

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>a certain team design a product that degrades itself automatically

Really makes you think.

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>>101554239
>might seem like it's sagging.
but its actually not?
technically the bracket should keep it in place so it cant ever reach a sagging point where the PCB cracks even if the case is at a slight angle, right?

>>101554562
HOLY KEK

>>101554140
The only benchmark anyone needs to be quite desu kedo ne. Every single Intel gen in the last 5 years consists purely of dogshit chips that overheat and crash constantly. Biggest advertisement campaign for TSMC and AMD if anything

>>101554573
I'm 99.9% sure it's not sagging with the bracket. Only reason I tell you check the level of the desk and case is for that 0.01% that it might be sagging. Vibrations can easily make screws loose. That's why I said, check the fucking level of the desk and case. If it's similar to the GPU it's not sagging.

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Absolutely brutal mogging

What's the next Raptor Lake fuckup that's gonna come to light?

>>101554839
my bet is on memory controller degradation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R8en_FtA80

funny enough I replaced my i5-9400F with a R5 7600 and Titanfall stopped crashing and locking up the entire system
I guess I'm never buying into the Intelaviv scam again

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>>101551551
Dual is good, Windforce sucks. If you can find the Gaming variant, it's good, but you'll want to use the quiet BIOS switch

>>101551487
Why are you not buying 6000CL30?

>>101550742
Yes

>>101550512
4090 > 4080 Super > 4070 Ti Super > 7900 XTX = 4070 Super > 4070 > 7900 XT > 7900 GRE > 7800 XT = 4060 Ti

DLSS primarily and RT secondarily, not mention all the other features like Broadcast or easy and fast AI performance

>>101554556
>13400 is rebadged 12th gen, so it's fine

https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/1e7j7vn/intel_needs_to_say_something_oxidation_claims_new/

>Some of the CPUs using RPL B0 silicon were cut to ADL cache specs - there's some CPUs (i5-13400(F), i5-14400(F), i5-13450HX, and i7-13700HX) that use a mix of ADL C0 and RPL B0, hence why they'd do so. Given it's using the same silicon as the affected CPUs, it may be affected as well.

>13400/F and 14400/F can come in either Alder Lake C0 or Raptor Lake B0 variants. Check Ordering and spec information here: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/236788/intel-core-i5-processor-14400-20m-cache-up-to-4-70-ghz.html

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>>101550460
Retarded
If (((((specs)))) meant anything, the FX 9590 would still be a good CPU

>>101550077
>12GB is too low in 2024
Retarded. 8 GB is only rarely too small for max settings in 2024. 12 GB could be considered excessive

>>101549598
>What's the point in getting AMD anymore, even?
There is none.

>>101549629
Today is not opposite day

>>101554952
and here's 13400 with the same RPL B0 silicon

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/230495/intel-core-i5-13400-processor-20m-cache-up-to-4-60-ghz.html

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>the regularly scheduled nvidia shill shows up

sorry but my next GPU won't be NVIDIA
MSI Afterburner is a pain, the ols NVIDIA Control Panel is a piece of shit and the new NVIDIA app is a 60 gigabyte Electron app
compare all that to Adrenalin which is just a Qt app

>>101555023
You will buy the 8GB 5060 next year goyim.

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>>101548753
A 3060 Ti is generally too strong for a 4790K IMO, in that the 4790K will be limiting the performance of the GPU too often. You can definitely get the graphics card first and run hardware monitoring; if the GPU is less than ~100% utilized (or maybe 98%), the GPU is limited by the CPU or something else like FPS limits
But if you have some trash tier 60 Hz monitor, might not matter too much

>>101546644
OLED

>>101546037
Reconstruction
But if you want to run the most demanding settings like path tracing (not everyone does), just buy a 4090. You don't need to more research than Cyberpunk 2077 with RT Overdrive flipped on

>>101554977
>There is none.
Better raster performance at an equivalent price, reasonable amounts of VRAM, and much better linux support.

>>101555137
Don't forget functioning DSC.

>>101544898
I remember this was loud as shit on my 3600.

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As usual nobody posts the followup
> We have over 100 workstations containing Intel 13th and 14th-generation processors deployed at Digital Extremes and we were only having problems with one of them; after it had its BIOS updated, the crashes went away.

>Furthermore, it would be a mistake to extrapolate our data for “nvgpucom64.dll crashes” to include all crashes.

>Here’s a graph we generated from the 666 most-recently reported crashes:

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1405596-follow-up-regarding-instability-on-recent-intel-processors/

don't care, still not buying intel

>>101555262
If you were a sane person you'd be happy Intel exists to prevent monopoly power

>>101555229
As usual it is a nothingburger than the AMD shills hyped out of proportion because they know zen is doa.

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>>101554937
> DLSS primarily
> RT secondarily
Based out of VRAM enjoyer

>>101555086
I don't get this, it doesn't become a bad product just because you're a goy

>>101555273
don't care
still
not
buying
intel

>>101555275
When you think of it, Nvidia's greatest gamer mistake was releasing a card with two RAM options to easily allow for benchmarking

>>101555326
Your loss, great CPU's

I have a 560ti
it would still be a capable gpu if it had a reasonable amount of vram and drivers
they have always gimped their cards fuck you

>>101555343
bait

>>101554903
Jews would never use something themselves if it is a scam

>>101555352
i don't use it if that's what you're asking
I have a collection of computer parts

>>101555335
that overvolt themselves, overheat and crash

>>101553928
Not worth spending on. You can get a 4K monitor for that price. Spend less or go to 4K

https://github.com/GPUOpen-Tools/frame_latency_meter
AMD being the hero we need once again.

>>101552797
Razer deathadder or whatever it is called

>>101555343
It's not a capable card even the 970 is not.

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>>101554952
>>101555006
Look at the memory speeds and L2 cache of those chips vs the 13600K
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230493/intel-core-i513600k-processor-24m-cache-up-to-5-10-ghz/specifications.html
That's how you can tell the difference between ADL and RPL. It's possible there are some cut down RPL chips being sold as 13600/14600 non-K and below, as people talking about C0 and B0 steppings probably know what they're talking about. But at the same time I'd need more than a random redditor to make me reconsidering a 13400 purchase, especially when those chips haven't been highlighted as has having known failures. Generally the failures come from excessive voltage, and the 13400 has locked voltages with fairly low single core performance

>>101555275
>amd's trash tier, image quality damaging rt causing problems
I know, who cares?
https://youtu.be/uMHLeHN4kYg?si=FFguraRjEP85ya4t&t=462
I've shit on you enough regarding this topic, come up with something new if you want any more (You)s.

DLSS Quality at 1440p or 2160p has image quality better than or equivalent to """"native"""" in 2/3s of the tested games, and in nearly 90% of Unreal engine situations. This means Geforce is better value when image quality is held as the constant. End of discussion.

>>101555428
Geforce has had latency in its overlay for a long time

I know this is ultra specific but if I wanted to get a build together pretty much exclusively for MS flight simulator 2020, what gpu would you recommend? I've seen recommendations all the way from older 2070 up to 4060, I don't necessarily want to spend an arm and a leg but would like to fly some bigger planes at busy airports in high/ultra

>>101555443
well it wouldn't be capable per se but it would be able to run some 10 year old games without running out of vram

>>101555461
That is a game that will take whatever you throw at it to a point. What I would be looking at more heavily is the cpu side of things.

Raptor Lake is broken because Intel was massively delayed in getting 10nm working. Alder Lake was already pushing 'Intel 7' to the edge and 'Intel 4' is only just ready for prime time.

>>101555477
>>101555477
>>101555477

>>101555461
You want to spend less on GPU and more on CPU. Simulator games use a lot more CPU resources than GPU. Get yourself a cheaper GPU and get a really, really good CPU instead.

>>101555482
the solution: go back to 14nm

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>>101555452
>2 Nvidia gpus
>its AyyyMDs fault
KEK, I accept your instant defeat
> DLSS Quality at 1440p or 2160p has image quality better than or equivalent to """"native
KEK, based blindness enjoyer

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>>101555461
I would recommend getting a card with Frame Gen (so RTX 40 series, possibly the 4060), as Frame Gen will help with CPU limited scenarios in MSFS 2020. The other anon is correct in that you'll want a good CPU, as MSFS 2020 is CPU limited in places like airports

>>101551003
How do you know Alex is gay? Did he fuck you?

>>101555587
>>101555498
>>101555480
thanks guys, I'll have a look at beefing up the CPU side then. I was thinking 5800x3d or 5700x3d

>>101544530
>>101544612
it took a while, but i tested it on linux. the freezing/crashing still happens. the slow down did not, so that must be just a Windows thing.
took me a while to find a damn live linux image that had nvidia's proprietary drivers installed.

>>101555739
I heard him speak, and also, he has some weird shit on his instagram.

>>101556411
>weird shit on his instagram.
Like what? Either pull out some faggot evidence from his asshole or stop pulling shit out of your own.

Im looking at swapping out my old 1070 for a 3070 but my buddy recommended me a 7700 XT at the same price point. I frankly barely got my head around nividia's naming scheme and have no fucking clue what AMD is doing is the 7700 in the same class as the 3070 or is it a generation up or down or something?

>>101557428
Radeon is garbage, avoid