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lmao

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Please only post positive thing about nvidia in this thread k thnx

>>101555497
no one ever got fired for buying inte-ACK

Should I get a ups for my future desktop? Is a surge protector enough?
I get power outages from time to time where I live

>>101555521
I would certainly get a good surge protector at the very least.

>>101555521
Surge protector is good enough. Unless you're working with highly critical data then UPS is kinda overkill.
But for me, because I have 2 PC, a main PC and a storage PC full of spinning disks having a brownout while it's writing can severely damage the drives so I had to get a UPS.
tl:dr
If just gaymin then no. Once you start getting into server stuff then yes.

Should I pair up a 5700x3d with a 7700 xt or a 7800 xt?
I'll also probably need to upgrade my PSU since it's only 550 watts, any recomendamtions?

>>101555477
Apologies for asking but how up to date is the OP? From my experience general OPs on other boards just get copy/pasted for months on end with little variation.

>>101555694
just pick one from tier A in the psu cultist list

>>101555694
>Should I pair up a 5700x3d with a 7700 xt or a 7800 xt?
If you have an existing AM4 board sure. I prefer the 5800x3d for those games that scale with clocks more but that is preference and comes down to the cost difference and your budget.

>>101555766
Yeah it's just for a last AM4 upgrade, I already bought the 5700x3d, so I want to know what pairs up better with it.

I just got a used rtx 3090 blower card and the fans are super loud when its under load. Way louder than my 2070 which is also a blower. Are 3090s jsut that loud, or should I open it and service the insides?
It also has some strong coil whine, any tips on that?

What thermal paste should I get for the peerless assassin?

>>101555819
It comes with its own little tube of paste, you don't need to buy more.

can someone recommend me a laptop? i'm looking for an msi (because of the gummy keyboard) that stays very cool with 24gb+ ram, 8+ cores, and no gpu.

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>amd shoots themselves in the foot again

>>101555874
>source: just trust me bro

>>101555908
retard

>>101555874
Who is saying this? They release in like a week.

Why hasn't amd ship zen5 to reviewers yet? is it doa?

>>101555937
tech jesus himself

>>101555948
>isreal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXRxWm9y3QQ

>>101555998
you're going to want something more powerful.

>>101555874
They are just playing it safe, plus they prob would like the intel cpus with the new ucode patch which gimp it's performance.

i think im going to skip intel and amd cpus thsi gen
my 12700k is good enough for now anyway.

>>101555510
Imagine being that fat nvidia fanboy who put his life savings on NVDA 10 years ago when this pic was made

>>101556044
12700k is still great no need to upgrade for a few more years

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>>101555953
>Delayed to August 15
GOD FUCKIGN DAMNIT AMD.
All you had to do was just not trip over your own dick while Intel was self-immolating. I'm sure tech reviewers like GN are all breathing a sigh of relief though as this will in all-likelihood push launch reviews past the when the Intel microcode patches will be rolled out meaning they won't have to condition their benchmarks/recommendations or go back after a few weeks to retest post-update.

>>101556044
My moto is, 'never upgrade unless its dead'.
Just lower graphic settings on games if your system can't handle them.

>>101556079
>cant handle them
i have a 4090, i can play literally everything maxed. i just figured this gen would be a good time to upgrade and hop on the ddr5 train...but i guess i can't trust amd or intel right now

>>101556070
You can't undo initial benchmarks (a lesson AMD as a company should learn by now) so a two weekish delay to still ride the train of intel bad is still a win if it does filter out the chips they want to not stay in the channel. Without hard numbers nobody can get riled up one way or another.

>>101556044
cope
Sounds like you wanted to upgrade your CPU but now you can't because of the 13th and 14th gen failure rates and don't want to buy an entire new motherboard
should've just gone AMD

>>101556059
People who act like have no money - if they did they wouldn't be championing their corpo overlords as a way of life.

>>101556110
don't be retarded, i was always going to upgradee to z890 or finally go amd

>>101556101
I wonder if/when some of these supposed substandard 9000 chips being recalled will make their way onto Ebay and a techtuber will get their hands on one to test vs. the final retail silicon.

>>101556134
Depends on volume. If there is a decent amount (and more roll off the assembly line) they'll just be stockpiled to be sloppy seconds like AMD has been filling out AM4 with. Otherwise they'll probably just get chucked in the recycling bin.

>>101556095
12700k, but a 4090?
uhhh, okay.

>>101556161
uh, yeah. the 4090 is the bottle neck at 4k

>>101556079
>Just lower graphic settings on games if your system can't handle them.
this only gets you more fps if you have a strong enough cpu, the exact opposite of what is being discussed

ryzen 9000 delayed ahahah

>they think the 12700k is a weak cpu
what is this bizzaro world thread

>>101556190
Most anons are illiterate and read it as 2700k, which would be true.

>>101556190
>CPU that came out in 2021
sister....2021 was 20 years ago.

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>Nvidia with melting 4090 and bad paste
>Intel with bending sockets and stability issues
>AMD with exploding 7800X3D and now delays

Holy fuck we are really hitting the limits of silicon and current tech.

>>101556190
it's an overpriced piece of dogshit
ryzen 7600 is cheaper in the long run

>>101556299
your brain is literally melting

Is it still worth getting a 7800x3d? Or should I wait for new motherboards and cpus to come out? They're already announced right? My motherboard died 1 month after the warranty expired so I need a new one.

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>ordered a refurbished 4070 for ~450€, made sure to pick a 2 fan card so it fits in my matx case
>it arrives, I open the box
>it's an xboxhueg 3 fan card
>wonder what happened, maybe since it's refurbished they sent whatever 4070 they had, consider returning it to get a proper smaller one
>notice the sticker
>4070 ti
Well, I have a card that is a tight fit and that I have to figure how to mount in my case, but after this mess up on the store, now that's a good problem to have

LOL they delayed it so reviews will go against Intel CPUs with "updated" (meaning lower perf) code.

>>101556328
Yes. New hardware doesn't drive prices down like it used to. It still applies to used parts but if it's new then you're probably only saving 2-5% discounts.

>>101556328
New boards are coming in 2-3 months with X3D chips.

>>101556346
what case? some cases can fit 3 fan gpus.

>>101556364
Yeah, but waiting 2-3 months without my computer is kinda annoying.

>>101556316
Why do you insist on being an insufferable kike?
Still not buying Intel

whats the prediction for the price of the 5080?

>>101556407
1400 usd

>>101556407
Probably 1200$.

can someone explain to me how Intel Lunar Lake is related to Battlemage? Or rather what it IS exactly?
Is it just a code name for new chip for their consoomer CPU lineup, or is it some overarching new innovative silicone architecture that encompasses everything else they do?

>>101556381
Inter-tech IM2 Expander (same case as the Sama IM01 Pro in burgerland), with a front mounted PSU. Technically I have 2cm of clearance, but I also have to deal with the cables hanging from the PSU.

>>101556407
$3000 for 6GB of VRAM

is there a software that lets me see gpu/cpu utilization over time, and also specifics of utilization, like what cores or how much vram is being used? kinda like the graphs you see in task manager under performance, except recorded

>>101556407
~1499$

>>101556461
msi afterburner

>>101556458
THANK YOU BASED NVIDIA
nobody needs VRAM anyways

I can't make my mind up on what I should replace my aging 5700XT with. I'd prefer not having to upgrade my PSU, which limits my options to 4070S, RX 7900 GRE, and 4070TiS. I feel like I'm getting fucked no matter which I pick. The raster performance between the 4070S and the GRE seem to be significant. However, the latter has much worse RT performance, no CUDA, and no DLSS. But are they really worth giving up 4GB extra VRAM and 10-15% raster performance for?
Then there's the 4070TiS. Which although clearly the faster of the three, is priced at a, considering the relative performance difference, ludicrous 950€ in my region. I can afford it, but can I really justify it?

>>101555698
It's up to date, made for the USA
The only thing that's slightly outdated is the launch of Ryzen 9000 (new launch date is Aug. 15th), and that was something that came to light only today

>>101556190
>what is this bizzaro world thread
There are a couple of vocal AMDrones
It's entertaining to shit on them

>>101556297
>really hitting the limits of silicon
Yes, unless there's some shift in computing paradigms

>>101556348
Interesting theory, although you'd think AMD's PR could have come up with a better reason than "our initial CPUs sucked" if that were the case

>>101556407
$1200, $1000 if you're lucky

>>101556437
Lunar Lake refers to Intel's CPUs
They're tiled, so they'll have a GPU (likely Xe2) title

i have have some rgb fans lying around (prolly not the best quality), should i throw them into this case or should i not even bother?

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>>101556461
Intel's presentmon is pretty good for that

>>101556297
based fear mongering poorfag / value enthusiast
the sanest way to keep your shekels safe

>>101556299
>it's an overpriced piece of dogshit
literally been the best value cpu since its been hovering 200 bucks for long time ago
but you can get a oc 12400f + mobo for the same cost now so idk
all depends

>>101556407
why wait for 4090 performance when you can already buy a 4090?

>>101556407
4080S being $1000 makes me think it'll be $1000 as well. Or 1200 tops. But unless it outperforms 4090 it will be shit at anything over $800

>resident Intcel is back

>>101556348
I thought that too, but from GN's video they are actually pulling stock from etailers/AIBs/etc. that was already shipped to run QA on. That costs money they would never willingly spend unless it was something serious.

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>>101556538
forgot to add pic

>>101556567
No way is it going to be $1000 while there are still 40-series cards in stock. That's wishful thinking

nvidia is not moving the 40 series like hotcakes, so i expect the 4090 to still be a good value when the 50 series comes out.

the 5080 will be 1399 and the 5090 will be 1799 :)

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>>101556297
>AMD with exploding 7800X3D
tell me more

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waitfags btfo

>>101556609
>no way is the 4090 going to be less than $2000 when there are 3090Tis out there for $2000

>>101556656
dont get an asus board and youre fine

>>101556602
Ideally you still want slight overpressure, more intake than exhaust, to reduce dust

>>101544530
going to reshare this one time just in case anyone has any other comments on what might be the issue? if you don't want to follow the reply chain: i tried linux and got the same freeze/crash after closing a stressful application.
otherwise i'm just gonna buy a new card.

Nvidia has no competition lol, they're going to nickle and dime you. Hard.

>>101556656
Same problem as current Intel, too much voltage. But on AMD's case it was them being limp dicked faggots who did not grab motherboard makers by the balls and force them to limit the voltage fed to the cpu.

>>101544530
what's your exact PSU model?

>>101556699
>have you considered not buying nvidia?
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SAVE ME JENSEN

I would buy a 4070 ti super, but the fact that it struggles to keep 60+ fps on modern titles (without upscaling) at 1440p isn't very promising for the future.
Is there a chance Battlemage will actually come through with some crazy alien technology that will surpass the current gen somehow, or do I just bite the bullet and get one now and wait for the rtx 7000 series to come?

After 3 days of stability testing it seems my shit is stable after all.

It must have been the "intel defaults" setting I changed in the bios that made the XMP profile not work. After setting it back to the Asus default it hasn't missed a beat. I guess it makes the system expect that you run everything else literally at default settings, I've no idea, maybe I'll find out more as I learn more about this board. I mean it still allowed it to set the memory higher but then just immediately failed in tests. Weird.

>>101544530
Of course you've checked temps when this occurs

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>>101556516
>The raster performance between the 4070S and the GRE seem to be significant
Did you mean insignificant? Also DLSS puts the 4070 Super way ahead in performance if we hold image quality constant

>>101556642
The sell through theories are bullshit. The (obviously false) rumor about the end of the RTX 30 generation was that there were "warehouses of 3080s" but that was of course wrong. Nvidia not selling as many RTX 40 series cards as it wanted to (not saying this is the case) would likely mean that pricing will be lower for RTX 50, much like how MSRPs for the RTX 30 series were good compared to the RTX 20 series. It's possible that part of the reason for the RTX 50 delay is related to inventory (unlikely) but more likely to be related to TSMC. A long time ago Nvidia had set early 2025 for RTX 50 launch in its own documents, and late 2024 was mostly tartuber leaker rumors

>>101555477
My current build is:
R5 7600x
64GB DDR5 6000MHz
RTX 3070 ti
850 Watt PSU
240hz 2560x1440 Gigabyte monitor.
use case: high FPS gaming

Can't decide whether to upgrade my CPU or GPU. Which do you think would be a bigger upgrade? If I got a CPU it'd be the 7800x3d since they are being discounted now before Zen 5. And I have absolutely no clue what I'd get for a GPU if i were to upgrade that. I've looked at a couple 4070 ti's and 7800 xt but not sure what I'd get. I'd probably do like up to 750 for the GPU upgrade but I'd probably get the 7800x3d if I decided to upgrade CPU. Just don't know which would be the bigger boost in FPS

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>dlss
>consistent image quality

>>101556822
Stop arguing with a script. The script cannot change its mind.

>>101556760
EVGA 650 B5
220-B5-0650-V1
>>101556805
to the best of my ability. temp won't go higher than 85 when running an application. temp drops normally when it starts to do its slowdown/freezing dance.

>>101556818
you commited the cardinal sin of buying non x3d ryzen for gaming, golden rule, never buy non x3d ryzen for gaming
a 9900x is up to 30% slower in 1% lows and up to 50% slower in 0.1% lows than a 7800X3D in esports games, and a 9900x is faster than a 7600x
don't think gpu matters if you are trying to push fps since you need to run low anyway but sure

>>101556786
I mean a 4090 can't hit 50fps average at 1080p in Wukong with raytracing and dlss p 4k
modern gaming is a meme

>>101556990
>a 9900x is up to 30% slower in 1% lows and up to 50% slower in 0.1% lows than a 7800X3D in esports games
Here's the rub - we don't know if that review came from a chip that would be recalled and if/how the results may change.

>>101556971
I would try repasting the GPU (and the CPU too while you're at it). Also run some app like GPU-Z (or equivalent) and try watching for throttling events, you might learn something

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>>101556516
4070S is the worst pick for 1440p because of the low VRAM, could be ok for 1080p though, both 7900GRE and 4070TiS are good for 1440p. You could also look at 2nd hand 3090tis, I doubt someone mined on them.

>>101557205
>using hogwarts legacy as an example
man, you do know that shit is an unoptimized mess, right?

>>101557205
No sar you must rideem 4070S DLSS NVENC CUDA. Better than native sar.

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>>101557252
How many of these apply?

>>101555874
Honestly, if there was actually an issue and if they can get more performance then I welcome a 2 week delay. I'd rather wait for a few weeks more than have it deal with crashes and instability.

I need a new cpu cooler (no aio), and my case allows for a maximum height of 150mm. Should I get something like the NH-C14S or the Dark Rock TF 2 or should I get something like the Peerless Assassin 120 and just leave the side panel open? I guess doing the latter would be better, so that when I'll upgrade my case in the future I won't have a dwarf cooler for no reason

>>101557205
nta but what games would be an issue with only 12G at 1440p? I'd like to get a TiS but I fear that would be pushing my 650W PSU together with a 5800X3D

m looking at swapping out my old 1070 for a 3070 but my buddy recommended me a 7700 XT at the same price point. I frankly barely got my head around nividia's naming scheme and have no fucking clue what AMD is doing is the 7700 in the same class as the 3070 or is it a generation up or down or something?

>>101557349
4070TiS+5800X3D is a <400W load while gaming. Not to say you should do it just that you can.

loving my 7800XT but the performance hasn't been fantastic, likely due to my CPU being pretty mediocre. I have a Ryzen 5 4500 and A320 board (was a gift/gift card purchase I know its hilariously mismatched) and I'm looking to maybe upgrade. Is the 5600/5600x a good match? I'm running 1080p but 3 monitors (1 is a tablet monitor).
Side note I would prefer not to buy another new Motherboard as my RAM is DDR4, but I wouldnt be opposed depending on overall cost.

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How often should you repaste or repad a GPU?
I've had my 3080 FE for about 3 years now, and I repasted/repadded it around the same time that I bought it, give or take a few months. Is it time to do it again?

>>101557445
The 7700XT is a few % behind the 3080/4070. It's a fine card for budget 1440p or high FPS 1080p. If those are your only options then I'd definitely take the 7700XT. OTOH, if you've got a free choice, then the 6800 is usually the best value in this class. Next step up would be the 4070S or 7900GRE.

>>101557519
Like, every 10 years?

>>101557483
You could probably get by with a 5600/X but I'd rather save up another $100 for a 5700X3D.

>>101557555
what exactly is the difference with the x3d chip series? I get its better from the posts here but it felt like when I looked at it that it was just a "more expensive rehash of the x" what sorcery are they working with?

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Is there any evidence whatsoever that this oxidation stuff affects alder lake, like a 12100 or 12400?

>>101557583
It does not affect 12th gen CPU.

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>>101556818
GPU if you're just doing general gaming
Maybe CPU if you play specific multiplayer games. Not really worth upgrading a half tier for CPU (to a 7800X3D) anyway

>>101556822
>amdrone tarduber
>dlss sour grapes
Like milk and cookies

>>101557205
>one game
Doesn't outweight the massive number of games where the 4070 Super outperforms the 7900 XTX, such as the very game in your post

>>101557576
x3d = they gave the CPU a gigantic L3 cache, which video games really like = higher FPS

i've read that it also helps for simulations(?) but I haven't seen any verification of that claim

keep in mind though that the 5700/5800 X3D chips are basically equal to a ryzen 7600 in FPS

Is a 16:9 aspect ratio screen better at anything than a 16:10 one?

>>101557651
playing 16:9 media, right?

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>>101557205
>>101557615
Also keep in mind that DLSS provides higher than native image quality in Hogwarts.

>>101557349
>nta but what games would be an issue with only 12G at 1440p?
None except for Hogwarts with RT + Frame Gen as far as I've seen. It's a non-issue, especially with advancements in virtual textures. Note that UE5 games are just fine even with 8 GB, and Hogwarts is UE4

>>101557583
No

>>101557651
There aren't good gaming monitors in 16:10

>>101557640
Oh shit that's actually pretty sick. overall yeah thats not too bad, I'll keep my eyes out for a good deal soon, I like that idea a lot more.

>>101555784
>>101555694
Anyone?

>>101557662
I don't really mind the black bars. I just want to cope because I can't get a 16:10 screen.
>>101557678
I'm buying a laptop.

V-cache is fundamentally a dirty hack through advanced packaging to a problem that has plagued cpus since effectively their inception but it it isn't stupid if it works.

>>101557576
It has a bunch of cache stacked on top. Cache is good for gaming because games make a lot of small data requests and pulling that data from cache is a lot faster than going out to the RAM. It has some other benefits like making your RAM speed less important (my guess is you're not running 3800C14 bdie) and improving FPS consistency. Don't get me wrong, a 5600 would be fine if you're flat broke but the price difference is small enough that you might as well save for another month.

>>101557451
I mean I did use fairly aggressive settings to calculate wattage using outervision: https://outervision.com/b/PgcPbJ
According to this my 650W PSU is certainly not enough.

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>>101557768
Thanks anon. Definitely going to try for that x3d then, It'll be another month or so but definitely worth it.

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>>101557349
> what games would be an issue with
Generally open world ones I would say, however there are examples with small locations where there is a VRAM overflow and 1% FPS degradation as a result in this webm for example. Just stay away from it
I would additionally invest in a better PSU, after all it is one of the most important parts of the computer.
If you have a problem with your budget right now, you could even wait for the new gen from nvidia, hopefully models <70TiS will not be the same rubbish, otherwise you could get a discount on the current ones, well or the new generation of AMD GPUs could show something interesting.

>>101557818
Yeah that 90% utilization and 10% overvolt on the card are kiling you. In the real world your CPU will be more like 30% (~50W in testing) and the card will pull whatever the power limit is (285W on the FE but OC models will be higher). I definitely wouldn't spec a 650W unit for that combo brand new but it's not like it'll explode if it's even halfway decent. I'd maybe consider a new one, or a weaker card, if you run sustained CPU+GPU workloads like 3D rendering but for a gaming rig it'll be fine. Again, assuming it's a good model.

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>>101556822
Far better

>>101558010
DLSS/DLAA and TAA are a cancer in gaming.

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>>101558010
>still image for a temporal based technology
>shows massive blurring on moving objects

>>101557640
if you mean like fluid simulations then no, cache is absolutely useless. it's all either computation or memory bandwidth bound.
cache helps in games because game code is shit and cpu can hold more branch predictions

>>101557949
Not a new system for sure, upgraded it over time from 2017 Ryzen release.
PSU is an EVGA G3 650W so it "should" theoretically be fine but I don't like to go on that.
Realistically, I'll probably just get a 5700X3D and 4070 Super to ride AM4 into the sunset.

>>101557640
>i've read that it also helps for simulations(?)
Sim games like asetto corsa competizone, factorio and the like benefit as they are tracking a lot of data that often fits into the enormous L3 the x3d parts have which is orders of magnitude faster than going out to system ram. For srs bsns simulations (i.e not games) they use datasets so large often they can't even be run on gpus as there isn't enough memory available and the piddly megabyte range on a cpu is lol territory.

>>101557549
>Like, every 10 years?
I'd say 3-5 years is good, but my GPU already has top-tier thermal pads and paste.

>>101558078
You've got at least 150W of +12V headroom even in the worst case scenario (350W OC card, a game that thrashes the CPU to 100W, and 50W from ancillary components like fans at 100%). Median scenario gives you 250W of headroom. Personally I would stick to the 4070S because it's cheaper and good enough if you don't bovinely max every setting but the option is there.

>>101557753
>V-cache is fundamentally a dirty hack through advanced packaging to a problem that has plagued cpus since effectively their inception but it it isn't stupid if it works.
Since just throwing a ton of cache at the problem is really the miracle boost to gaming performance that it's turned out to be, why hasn't AMD OR Intel done it long ago?

>>101558189
Not really need max settings. 5700X3D + 4070S seems like the absolute sweetspot for old AM4 systems. Guess I'll stick with that until AM6 then, thanks.

>>101558281
>why hasn't AMD OR Intel done it long ago?
In short because they couldn't. Chips are (mostly) built on a 2d plane and going wider with cache (and ignoring the die area cost) makes it much slower as it is further away and more performance was gained by improving the logic. By bolting it on top suddenly a lot - but not all - latency issues disappear as physical distance problems go away but you run into the fun of having an insulator on top of your high performance, power hungry cores. Plus defect rate can go up as bad cache will trash the entire chip. This ties into AMD's chiplets approach heavily as you are getting the good yields fronm having chibi CCX sizes to maintain manufacturing viability at scale. Also consider that the extra cache the x3d parts uses is about as large as the entire CCX it is stuck to because memory has in no way scaled down like the rest of the logic has as nodes have shrunk.

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>>101557417
Does this look like a straight man to you?
https://imginn.com/p/BeXhu4Kl0Aq

>>101558421
Germans are natural perverts so you cannot conclude anything. Church of fudge.

>>101558051
>>101558117
I'm glad there are anons that ground the usefulness of this marketing gimmick.
How many games has anyone seen that really benefited from this expanded cache? Like three? I can think of Asetto (LOL), Factorio and Dragon's Dogma 2 because it was such a dumpster fire with the way it handled NPC scheduling.
On the other hand you can get a 7700X for -30%~ price and it performs practically with parity to the 7800X3D in most titles. The 7700X is also more stable and it's clocks aren't held back by extra cache.

>>101558281
>Since just throwing a ton of cache at the problem is really the miracle boost to gaming performance
It isn't, everyone has been fooled by marketing. I'm pretty sure even frametime consistency is worse on 7800X3Ds.

>>101558434
>How many games has anyone seen that really benefited from this expanded cache? Like three?
Many more. Moar cache might not inherently give massive acceleration like seen in assetto but what it does mask/reduce/cover is cache misses that need going out to ram. That is where the improvement in 1% and 0.1% results come from.

does the ryzen delay mean we wont see a 9800x3d this september?

>>101558521
I doubt - the x3d dies are produced separately so unless this delay has far wider reach the x3d chips won't even be in production quite yet unless they were going for truly enormous volume.

>>101558421
now that's an aids ridden faggot if i've ever seen one

is the 4070 ti super literally just the super with 4gb more vram, or does it have a performance jump enough to justify its +$200 price?

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Should I get 4070 now or wait for 5070? Dow ew even know anything about the 50 series so far?

>>101558843
We know nothing of the next generation but the eternal rule holds true: if you aren't screaming for an upgrade now just wait.

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Does it make sense to upgrade to a 4080 from a 3080? I'm debating whether or not I should get a 1440p OLED monitor or a 4080.

>>101558924
why do you need a 4080?

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>>101558924
See pic

>>101555477
lol the OP got mad about the RTX 4060 being recommended over the inferior RTX 3060 12GB and silently replaced it.

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>>101558952
>lol the OP got mad
yes that is normal

>>101558950
fuck. i feel attacked.

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>>101558950
this was me almost buying the 4080 super because it was only $200 more than the 4070 ti super, which was only $200 more than the 4070 super, but then I remembered how retarded paying $1000 for a gpu is, and how retarded spending $200 more for 4gb of vram is, so I just got the 4070 super, if I have to upgrade in like 2-3 generations then Im completely fine

>>101559014
Should've bought a 7800xt.

13600k + MSI B760i atm. There won't be any issue with running 6400MHz C32 ram, if I enable XMP right?

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Dumb q, but how do I know if my motherboard supports Resizable BAR? I have an offer to buy a discounted Arc A580 but apparently it doesn't work without Resizable BAR?

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>>101559041
I really wanted to, but amd is too retarded to into ai or good drivers, nvidia just works

>>101559151
ARC works without resizable bar but gains a lot of performance from it.

Give me a decently priced DAC/AMP.

>>101559280
Combo unit or no?
If combo: Fio E10k
if not: atom amp + dac

>>101559309
>atom amp + dac
The Atom 2 one? Or Atom+?

>>101559383
it legit does not matter. The atom 2 is straight up a marketing gimmick that JDS admits to because audiofools want MOAR POWA for their headphones.

i have to replace a 3060 ti. i want whatever's cheapest at equal or better performance/longevity, either new or used. could even be the same card if it's cheapest. alls i use it for is gaming. no production or AI stuff.
any recommendations? all are appreciated. thanks in advance.

>>101558843
4090 released in october 2022, 4070 released in april 2023. 5070 probably is like 9-10 months away
That said if you're asking you probably don't need the upgrade

>>101559443
6700xt or 7700xt

Set up my new Pc and it works fine so far but when i press the button turn it off, theres a relatively loud short pop noise and the monitor immeditaly shuts off. The Pc then, without seeing anything on the screen, shuts down normally. I have only turned it off twice so far because im a little scared this might cause some bigger issues so i couldnt really 100% locate where the pop comes from but since the screen immediately shuts down which seems rather odd, i think it must have something to do with the monitor. Any idea what this could be?

>>101559629
Does your monitor have speakers?

>>101559700
Yes it does. Good point seems very likely it could be from the speakers. Its also a new monitor which im unfamiliar with because my old only had DVI so I used this ‚‘new‘‘ one (its from 2012) had HDMI so i used it for the first time and I always used a headset with my old one so I didnt even consider this.

But what I still find strange is how fast the monitor turns off. Like its really a second or maybe even less after i click the shutdown button and its black. With my old monitor i could still see the blue screen with windows saying its shutting down and the circle spinning and so on before going black

>>101559777
I don't know what monitor that is, but it should stay on regardless if your PC shuts off. It has its own power cord anyways. What monitor is it?

is 7500f good? and is it good for 4070ti in 1440p?

>>101559854
yes
yes

>>101559850
Its an Asus VE278. I just tried and turned it off whith headphones plugged in and the noise was still there. Also its more like a loud click than a pop. And if i had to guess id say it comes from the HDMI cable of the monitor. Could it be because its a very old cable? I picked one thats probably 10-15y old.


And yeah its really weird that it tuens off like that (the monitor itself still has power i can see that)Could it be simply because windows shuts down so quickly? Its a brand new setup all updated and it shuts down in less than 10s too

>>101559503
>That said if you're asking you probably don't need the upgrade
I have a 1070 and it starts to lose her breath in some titles.

>>101559965
>Asus VE278
That is such a shit monitor. Try testing your PC with a second monitor. New monitor and still a pop, it's your PC. No pop and it's your monitor.

>>101559875
can you recommend me good mobo for that, need matx, thanks

>>101560010
Can't really recommend you one. Look for one that has stuff you need. If you're not sure then just get the cheapest one you can find. Avoid MSI mobo and ASrock is actually a good brand.

>need to do outpost loop for viessa
no, i don't think i want her anymore

>>101560009
Yep its pretty old and shitty but like i said my old one has a DVI port which my new pc doesnt have so the asus was the only option. Im already looking for a new one (24inch, atleast 100hz for like 120bucks). Any chance you know of a decent one?

>>101560031
what do you think about asrock b650m pro rs? ty again

>>101559965
searching "asus ve278 pop noise" comes up with a forum topic for some other asus monitor that say it's "thermal expansion of the plastics". it's not supposed to happen but it doesn't sound like it will damage anything but the monitor itself.
you should look it up yourself and see if their arguments are convincing enough for you to continue using it.

Do you do a clean install when switching from AMD to Intel or vice versa, is there any need too?

>>101560132
Yes, you should.
>is there any need too?
Yes, unless you want to create mustard gas

>>101560090
Could you link it pls I cant really find it. Only found something about other asus models and noises during usage but nothing for my model and only a single noise when turning the pc off.

>>101560156
https://linustechtips.com/topic/657857-asus-gaming-monitor-crack-or-pop-sounds/

>>101560082
Personally, no. If I'm only using it for gaymin then I don't need 2 PCIe x16 slots. Do you have anything to even put in there? Do you need 4 RAM slots? Chances are you don't. Most people here just use 2 sticks of 16GB RAM for 32GB. Do you even need all those USB ports?
Get these instead:
ASRock B650M-H/M.2+
ASRock A620M-HDV/M.2+

>>101560172
Doesnt seem to be the exact same case as mine but i will probably just get a newer monitor altogether to be on the safe side. Thanks for your help!

>>101560216
Its only 20$ more expensive with wifi and bluetooth built in

>>101560237
idk about that specific model but
>Wi-Fi+Bluetooth combo
>Wi-Fi can't create a hotspot
>Bluetooth can't do version 5
This is usually the case and I'd pay extra to not have that junk soldered onto my PC parts.

Hey guys, I have a question. How come M.2 drives aren't installed like RAM and GPUs? Why is it installed flat on its back? Wouldn't installing it like RAM, upright, reduce the amount of space it takes up, thus allowing for more M.2 slots to be added to the motherboard?

>>101560404
It's a form factor developed for laptops
U.2 is the correct form factor for desktops, only low end motherboards have m.2 slots

>>101560404
NVMes can get hot which requires heat sinks. Heat sinks can get big so it works like how you would slot in a CPU and CPU tower cooler.

>>101560425
I'd never heard of that form factor. Does it play shitty rock music when your PC is booting?

>>101559965
Maybe different issue, years back I had an ASUS monitor it was their old 144hz from like 2014, vg248. It made noise if I had the volume up. I never used the speakers so simply setting the volume to 0 removed the noise entirely

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>>101558814
In most cases it's barely faster but in some cases it's over 30% faster. It's more of future proof purchase.

Which 4080 super should I get?

>>101560789
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-founders-edition/40.html
Gigabyte, maybe

hey guys, does anybbody have a ssupd meshroom case here?
i had some questions about case fan orientation

>>101560896
meshroom d**

test

For Ram I've been using Kingston for ages, is there any difference between kingston and hiksemi?

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>>101560404
Could also ask why are GPUs cards.
They are so massive they should be like their own motherboard. Imagine a full ATX case with a micro-ATX motherboard in it. Then you'd have the lower part of the case for the "GPU board".

>>101560914
none of them make the RAM chips (that would be samsung, hynix and micron)
that's what really matters
so to answer your question, probably not

Recommend me a cool mid tower case

>>101561176
XPG valor mesh, it's fairly cheap and has good airflow

>>101561046
hypothetically if this was adopted and there are no longer GPU cards, what would you do if you wanted two or more GPUs?

>>101561176
Hyte y70 touch

>>101561062
...so what's make them different besides the price?

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would airflow like this work if the case was inverted, like the gpu on top and all?

>>101561249
No and that's subobtimal to begin with
You are creating a low pressure zone in front of the cpu heatsink

>>101561208
In my hypothetical world the mid-low end GPUs would still exist as cards.
They'd all use PCIe but now with new board-like form factors available.
>>101561249
I see no other way of installing case fans regardless what's inside the case.
>>101561352
lol what

>turn on PC
>keep getting errors and GPU keeps sneezing
>check inside
>one of the 8-pin cables is frayed and nothing rubbed against it or chewed on it

So I got a prebuilt PC with all parts but i only had to install the GPU myself and this was my first time and what freaks me out now that the pc is turned on is that in the entire tower theres basically not a single light. I did not get any RGBs so i expected it to be dark but really theres nothing. The card is a 6750XT by XFX and I wouldve thought that atleast their logo would glow or something like that and now im thinking i maybe fucked up somehow. I cant imagine that you have to turn that on manually in BIOS or something like that right?

>>101561391
Does the computer boot? Does it detect the GPU? Is it running properly? If all these things are true then it probably just doesn't light up. You can just google your card if you want to confirm.

>>101561352
what should the case fan orientation be, then?

>>101561554
Don't put an exhaust right next to the CPU cooler's fan

>>101556190
It is a weak ass piece of shit that can't match the 5800x3d much less the 7800x3d. You are weak and so is your skull.

>>101561494
Yeah the PC seems to run fine so far im may be just paranoid because it so unusual dark (Havent had time to try out any games yet tho). Its kinda hard to find any info on this because if the model doesnt have any lights the manufacturer obviously doesnt specify that. Could only find one guy in a forum who said that his 6700 XT from Qick doesnt have any lights while the Merc version does have them. And i have a Qick 6750 XT so im just gonna assume it doesnt have any RGB aswell.

>>101561571
really? i thought that would help get rid of any remaining hot air, at least the one on the side would. i could pros do without the one on the top

>>101556190
The estrogen cores make it weaker than it would have been by slowing the memory busses and slowing down applications run on it
Kinda symbolic of modern day DEI desu

>>101561582
Unless you know your components light up then you shouldn't really have any lights on in your PC after it POSTs.

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>>101555477
If I clone the drive that has my OS and everything on it, I should be able to just put the new drive in and run my computer with no other step, right?

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm just not very good with computers and I'm too broke to afford messing this up.

>>101561234
nothing lol
buy whatever frequency and timings you need/want, brand doesn't matter

>>101561786
Fresh install is always best practice but if you're lucky Windows Update will grab the right drivers for your new machine

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the eternal X3D wait room. at least it gives time for mobo manufacturers to get their shit together. only wish they would increase the core count per ccd

>>101561885
>increase the core count per ccd
That's supposedly their next goal with zen6

>>101561927
Looks like this release I will retire my am4 then. b550 served me well, finally I can try x870e

I plan on buying parts from the OP to get a new computer since I'm on an ancient rig. Is now an okay time to get stuff or should I wait for something?

>>101562223
2 more weeks

>>101561856
Oh. How lucky is "lucky"?

>>101561986
zen6 is only releasing in 2026
the parts that are coming out soon are zen5

>>101562223
its the best time to pick up a 7800x3d and a cheap b650 am5 motherboard while stocks last

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Need suggestion for my next build. Prefer full AMD rig as I want to use CachyOS as my main OS.

> Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qJJy6D

> Provide specific use cases (e.g. 4K editing, high FPS gaming)
4k high fps gaming, software development. I don't really care about RGB shit.

> State budget and COUNTRY or you will not be helped
USD $2500, Malaysia

>>101562259
7800x3d
b650m pro rs
2x32gb 6000 cl30 expo ram
7900xtx
sn850x 2tb m.2. ssd
850w gold psu

>diversity cores
KEEEEEEEEEEK

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>>101562339
>Diverse Efficient Inexpensive cores
>DEI cores

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>>101562339
It really writes itself does it not

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>>101561885
>the eternal X3D wait room
shouldve bought the 7800x3d at $340 like me
good luck waiting half a year and paying over $100 more for a tiny increase in performance

i'm reading about the 13th/14th gen intel issues now. i built a new comp with a 13700k in january. i already knew they were power hungry and saw suggestions to turn things down, so i used the cpu load lite setting. intel's default is 12, msi's bios even set it to 9. i've had it at 6 since almost the beginning and its been fine. i had 1 crash when i was first installing the os, drivers and debloating stuff. should i wait until the august update and then request a replacement? are they even offering anything?

>>101555477
I can't stop staring at your picture, looks like a goyslop farm.

>>101562510
You are fucked. No refunds. Enjoy your $700 brick

>>101562510
Ignore the doomers
Yes to all your questions

DO NOT BUILD ANYTHING WITH LESS THAN 32GB RAM AND 16GB VRAM!! DON'T MAKE ME REPEAT MYSELF!!

>>101562510
>i'm reading about the 13th/14th gen intel issues now. i built a new comp with a 13700k in january. i already knew they were power hungry and saw suggestions to turn things down, so i used the cpu load lite setting. intel's default is 12, msi's bios even set it to 9. i've had it at 6 since almost the beginning and its been fine.
I'm not especially familiar with that setting but an easy way to check would be to run a stress test like OCCT or Prime95 or even CineBench and beside it load up HWInfo64 and monitor the Max VID V-Cores. Anything close to 1.5v or over I would suggest going into BIOS and just locking all cores to 5.0 to 5.2 Ghz and then RMA'ing the chip after the Microcode Patch is released and updating the new untouched chip when you get the replacement.

IMPORTANT: When bench stress-testing if haven't locked the clock-speeds running an all-core load is okay, but most critically you want whatever stress-test to also run on a SINGLE-CORE by itself and watch it's voltage because 13/14th Gen will reach peak turbo boost at light 1-core workloads and and consequently raise the voltage to it's highest level to meet their transient clock spikes. That's where the most danger in damaging the chip to a degraded state comes in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYfBxmBfq7k

> i had 1 crash when i was first installing the os, drivers and debloating stuff. should i wait until the august update and then request a replacement? are they even offering anything?
Here's GN Steve's recommendations ATM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVdmK1UGzGs&t=1184s

>>101562485
The 9800x3D is dropping in October to fuck with arrow lake

>>101562770
It's ycruncher that tends to expose which of these is bad, both Wendell and GN mentioned it as something that was used to find defective CPUs bu big companies.

>>101562770
buildzoid/wendell recommends to downclock the memory first followed by downclocking the cores if you have a pozzed chip

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>>101562770
i ran cinebench when trying the 6 load lite setting, 4 would crash the app but not he system. 6 has been stable since i set it. i have ai open (llama) where i'm splitting vram/ram and its seems more demanding than games based on the temperature, but hwinfo is showing a tad over 1.2v at max.
just checked msi's page and there is a beta firmware update for my mobo mentioning intel defaults, so i'll flash that next.
how long does it take to get a replacement cpu? i'm not looking forward to the downtime, i have another comp i can use though.

>>101562871
if it doesn't crash you're fine

>>101562871
your fine
its the i9s and new i7-14700k cpus that heavily degrades from their 1-core boost's 1.5v high voltage requests

>>101562871
>but hwinfo is showing a tad over 1.2v at max.
>just checked msi's page and there is a beta firmware update for my mobo mentioning intel defaults, so i'll flash that next.
I think you are in the clear.

>>101562877
>>101562890
>>101562893
alright, guess i won't fret. thanks. for whatever its worth, its been a great processor so far

>>101557583
Oxidation is a lie retard

great. now i have to worry about my Palit 4080 thermal paste quality. I REALLY don't want to disassemble it.
It's not spinning loudly during gameplay, so i hope i'm good

I have a 7800X3D + 4090 (power limited) running fine on a 750W PSU. Do I need to worry about the PSU being near full-load? Is it better to get a new, more powerful PSU? I'd rather keep the money in my pocket, as everything works, but if it causes degradation to my components I'd rather buy something new ...

My PC has just turned 10 years old, and it's finally on it's last legs. Is logical increments still relevant? It's where /g/ sent me in 2014 and it was super helpful at the time.

>>101563156
Power limited no, unlimited yes.
Use a PSU calculator like outervision.

>>101563225
Lol no, logical increments is total shit nowadays.

>>101563131
undervolt it to reduce thermal stress on the paste
2.52ghz @ 0.95v is the sweetspot on ada

>>101555477
How's the Lian Li O11 air mini? Worth it for ATX motherboards? It seems like it's pretty bad for GPU thermals, but otherwise seems like a nice case.

>>101562726
Why 16 GB VRAM?

https://www.anandtech.com/show/21489/amd-delays-ryzen-9000-launch-1-to-2-weeks-due-to-chip-quality-issues

During final checks, we found the initial production units that were shipped to our channel partners did not meet our full quality expectations.

AYYMDEAD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

>>101563156
>I have a 7800X3D + 4090 (power limited) running fine on a 750W PSU. Do I need to worry about the PSU being near full-load? Is it better to get a new, more powerful PSU? I'd rather keep the money in my pocket, as everything works, but if it causes degradation to my components I'd rather buy something new ...
No it's fine. The 4090 runs about ~450W at load in gaming and the 7800X3D about 50-60W. That's a little over 500-550W MAX for total system draw. For a 750W-continuous rated PSU that's plenty of cushion and even with transient spikes a quality PSU is designed to handle those. Moreover, if there was a PSU-issue you'd have seen a NO-POST or random reboots (not BSOD, full power cycling) by now.

>>101563646
It's REALLY strange to me that AMD would only have learned about these issues mere weeks before launch on a product that has been years in planning which makes me wonder what the nature of them even is.

>>101563653
Thanks for the response, that puts my worries to rest

>>101563653
huh
i wonder what the purpose of those 1000 watt PSUs are then
power-hungry intlel systems?

>>101563801
For hedt systems and in the past, multi-gpu systems

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>>101563801
>i wonder what the purpose of those 1000 watt PSUs are then
power-hungry intlel systems?
Basically. Also what >>101563822 said.

Just finished building my PC and everything runs fine. But now I'm wondering if I should update my bios. I have the steel legend x670e and the 7800x3d and 4700 ti super. I'm getting mixed signals from what I've read so far.

>>101563852
If you've just built your system it is SOP to make sure you've gotten the most updated BIOS and drivers from whatever month-old firmware that was flashed on the board at the factory. It is the most optimum time to do so in fact, because something is going go wrong in the update better it happen before you've configured and installed everything else as you wanted.

Just got my motherboard ahead of time. It shouldn't matter where I put it (in the box) as long as it's in the anti-static bag, right? I'll leave it on a wooden table just in case.

>>101563931
Correct.

>>101563646
>>101563671
Yep, sounds like it's time to be a waitCHAD again. No buying a new CPU until 2025.

>>101563931
m8 it got shipped from overseas

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AMD zisters oh no!

>>101564070
>unspecified quality issue
What the point of ES chips then? How did they get this far without getting caught? Also I wonder what is the point in the extra week delay for the 9900X & 9950X over the 9700X & 9600X.

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Arrow Lake is looking like a wet fart...

>>101564070
>zisters
Rent free lmao

>>101564096
There's no hardware fault
AMD just wants to delay 9950x reviews until intel gimps their 13th and 14th gen CPU mid-August

Is it a bad idea to use beta BIOS versions? My MSI's board non-beta firmware is less than two months old, so I'm thinking of updating to that one.

Here is my build currently: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KsBqCd
I am wanting to use it for max settings gaming while still being able to run a few other lighter programs on the side. I also want to be able to use it for some light video editing at some point in the future.
Live in the U.S., budget of around 4k max. Please let me know how retarded you think I am, I will greatly appreciate it.

>>101564070
why do you speak in retard zoomer meme language?

>>101564256
Get the Arctic 360 III instead, along with a bigger case, since the GPU really won't fit within 2mm of space. Something like the Lancool 216 is cheap, spacious and won't require you to buy additional case fans, which you didn't add anyway.

If you're gonna spend that much on a motherboard you could probably get something better: more PCB layers, better VRM config, 5 gen PCIe futureproofing, etc. I'd recommend the B650 Steel Legend Wi-Fi if you can find it for cheaper as a quick rec, but it's much better to consult the AM5 Motherboard Sheet to find something for your needs, you should find it with Google since I can't post the link due to spam filter.

Bump up the PSU to 850W at the very least, honestly I'd go for 1000W to be safe. Also, don't use the Corsair RM000e, there have been reports of multiple RMAs on those, go for something like the Leadex VII XG.

>>101564256
>>101564401
>1000 Watts for a 7800x3d and 4080 super
Get 1400 just to be sure

>>101564256
>>101564401
Also, I completely forgot. Replace the memory with any one of these: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/memory/#L=25,320&S=6000,8400&sort=price&Z=32768002&ff=ddr5&E=0

Don't go higher than 6400 since AM5 systems don't really play nice with these
>>101564411
Are the transient spikes that bad with the 4080? I have a 4070 Super serviced with 850W.

>>101564437
>are the spikes that bad
lol, nah not at all. 1000 is overkill for your setup, but he's right that 850 is the way to go.

>>101564401
>>101564411
850W is more than enough even for a 4090 in case of the beQuiet Pure Power 12 M that can easily handle spikes of up to double the rated power (1700W). Remember to always buy German Engineering™, 100% free of DEI, to remain on the safe side of life.

https://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/4067

I think AMD delayed the 9000 series just to force Intel to patch their chips into the dumpster before they release. If they released on time then you know that 90% of reviewers wouldn't re-bench the neutered Intel chips vs the 9000 chips.

>>101564256
Update to this post, new list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HRxgvj
I changed the cooling, case, and motherboard to >>101564401's recs. Also upped the power supply to 850W, any thoughts on the brand for it?
Also, I replaced the memory with one of >>101564437's recs.
I am now going to work, I appreciate the quick feedback and look forward to further critique from others when I get back.

>>101564628
They wouldn't be recalling chips if that was the case.

>>101562485
I'm still on the 5800x though

First upgrade in nine years bros

>>101556059
If he was smart enough to buy stocks, he's smart enough to not wasting time doing NVIDIA shilling for free.

>>101564744
Poor choice to pick the 14900k though.

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>>101564633
That's a lot of money...
Do you withing driving distance of a MicroCenter?
Also what specific features are you looking for in a motherboard because $260 is a tremendous amount when a $130-150 is sufficient for 90% of power users out there if you don't have some special use cases.

DDR5-6000CL30 is about the same effective performance as DDR5-6400CL32 (every 2 steps of lower CAS latency is goof for 400Mhz worth of higher frequency).
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cCKscf/silicon-power-value-gaming-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-sp032gxlwu60afdeae
^Saves 26$

The 7800X3D is not a hot ship (it can't because AMD capped the clockspeed to protect the fragile VCache) and does not need a $100+ to cool it like some high-end Intel chips or the 7950X. A good $30-50 dual-tower air cooler like the Thermalright Phantom Spirit EVO is plenty (note temps in picrel are taken with an air cooler):
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BRMMnQ/thermalright-phantom-spirit-evo-69-cfm-cpu-cooler-phantom-spirit-120-evo
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d/25.html

The speed difference between NVMEs in the real world even in video editing is trivial. The 4TB drive is at least $80 cheaper:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CX3NnQ/kingspec-xg7000-4-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-xg-7000-4tb

>>101564221
Never use beta bios but sometimes it's hard to tell with companies. Gigabyte releases to updates called 66a and 66b and one is beta and the other isn't.

>>101564889 Continued
Since this is a high-end gaming build with some video editing on the side I strongly recommend you bump up to a 4K monitor over 1440p for very little extra. It makes a tremendous difference in picture clarity and the extra resolution real estate is helpful for managing the video editing GUI and timeline seeking/previews.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dTJp99/gigabyte-m27u-sa-270-3840-x-2160-160-hz-monitor-m27u-sa
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m27u

Since you have the budget for it, I'd even recommend a 4K QD-OLED for the perfect response times, colors, contrast, viewing angles, and uniformity for gaming:
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Swift-Gaming-Monitor-PG32UCDM/dp/B0CV26XVMD
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/rog-swift-oled-pg32ucdm

If you can't be convinced for a 4K monitor then at least swap that with the Dell G2724D which is brighter, faster, and more accurate OoB than the Asus for $20 less:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/g2724d

Finally, the 9800X3D will be at least 16% faster than the 7800X3D and launch in October, upon which time it most likely will become the fastest gaming CPU until 2026 or 2027. Is your current system not able to hold out until then?

>>101564633
You're fulla schiit m8

Why does total war attila use 94% of my cpu even though I have a i9 14900kf??!! This game is not new and I got this cpu since I wanted to run games without my hardware being pushed to the limit. It also seems that my gpu is barely being used. Is something wrong with my cpu?

What is considered fine for GPU's hot spot?

>>101564889
>Also what specific features are you looking for in a motherboard because $260 is a tremendous amount when a $130-150 is sufficient for 90% of power users out there if you don't have some special use cases.
NTA, but the guy who responded to him a recommend it. If his budget is 3-4000$ he can dish out some cash for a mid-range motherboard. Although, to be fair to him, that particular mobo is supposed to sell for 180$, but the stock is very low to nonexistent so the price is jacked up to 250$+ for the few supplies who have it; it's my bad I didn't check PCPP prices when I rec'd it. Alternatives are B650 Gaming X AX, B650E PG Riptide, B650 Tomahawk WiFi and B650 Aorus Elite AX V2.

>>101565366
>hot spot
Anything below 95 celsius.

>>101565325
its because you're running out of vram

>>101555477
>tired of shitass laptop
>splurge a little and drop 2k on all new PC parts
>spend an afternoon hooking them up
>fuckin DOA, no signs of life whatsoever
>shorting power switch pins does nothing
>PSU works, it turned on like twice but now doesn't anymore
I'm getting a fucking prebuilt next time. I hate this.

>>101565325
Did you install a cracked copy you downloaded?

>>101565325
What GPU? Also consider this >>101565408 unironically.

>>101564070
oh no not a two week delay when they have a 13 week head start on Intel!!!

>>101565416
>he thinks ARL will be available before CES

>>101563653
>>101563156
4090 has peak power draw well into the 500W range and you don't want your system power consumption coming anywhere near your PSU rating. If he spent the money on a 4090 he sure as shit should spend the money on a better PSU.

I'd suggest a high quality 1kW+ with a nice warranty. You can reuse it for future builds. I just had the ax1500i I bought in 2016 give up the ghost earlier this year and it was still under warranty, which they replaced with an ax1600i. I bought it for $400, so what seemed like an expensive, overkill PSU to many retards here is now going to last me 15+ years probably.

ax1600i is $600 but there is a single ax1500i for sale on Amazon for ~$350. Do note that it is longer than most ATX PSU's so check the dimensions first.

>>101565440
Doesn't matter when it's available if yesterdays leaked perf numbers are indicative of the final release product; +1% ST over 14900k? hard pass.

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Day 476 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>101565525
Don't those 1000W+ PSUs have terrible efficiency in the >100W range? I guess you're not worried about your power bill if you're running a 4090, but still.

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>>101565525
4090 transients max out at 500W with stock settings

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>>101565560
Not the ones I've used, they're highest tier efficiency (titanium, supposedly well over 90%). You need to account for the efficiency of a PSU when deciding the wattage. Bronze PSU's are 80% efficient which means a 1kW PSU is really only good for 800W (and I wouldn't want to test that limit).

Newegg has a calculator that says 7800x3d + 4090 should have an 800-900W PSU.

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>>101565566
I can find examples that are much worse

I want to upgrade my 1070 and also want to use stable diffusion more
My budget is about 400€
>3060 and 3060 ti have the same price used but the ti has no vram
>3070 has no vram
>4060 ti 16 gb is 500€ new and the only guy I found selling it used was a gypsy with negative reviews
I consider getting the 3070 and just output at low resolution with upscaling, any suggestions?

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>>101565645
plus our AI overlord had this to say

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>>101565212

>>101565653
You can't find a way to earn an extra 100 eudollars?

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>>101565624
I was referring to pic related. You can see how the efficiency can be below 90% in the >50W range, although I think a system like that doesn't go so low on idle. For a Titanium PSU its 94+% range is also fairly limited.

>>101565681
I'm an uni student in a country with a 400€ minimum wage, only ways would be scamming or gambling

If my GPU doesn't want to fit, is it okay to kind of... force it? I really don't want to break it, and I've already snapped a clip off the motherboard.

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>>101565736
Just saw it off so it fits.

>>101565768
>I sawed this 4080 in half!
Would love to. This machine is a nightmare.

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>>101565736
No excuses

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>>101566040
if you're going extra-case, go all the way
>3x3 200mm
>15.9kg

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/liquid-cooling/new-massive-liquid-cooling-radiator-weighs-over-35lbs-holds-nine-200mm-fans

>>101565624
>Bronze PSU's are 80% efficient which means a 1kW PSU is really only good for 800W (and I wouldn't want to test that limit).
That's not what PSU efficiency means, you'll get 1kW out just fine but if it's 80% efficient it'll be drawing 1.25kW from the wall (1250*.8=1000)
The efficiency graph you posted in your reply is still power draw from the wall.

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>>101566413
well then I am wrong and can be safely ignored

>>101566444
I accept your apology trips, don't worry about it

rate my retro build
>Phenom II X6 1055T
>16GB DDR3 1333Mhz
>Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H
>ASUS GTX 650 Ti
>Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Rx
>Samsung 870 Evo 1TB
>Windows XP + Windows Vista + Windows 7

I know a Sandy Bridge build would kick its ass but I already had the pieces and I won't bother buying ancient hw

>>101566583
What CRT you paring it with?

>>101566617
None, my CRT's died on me 5 years ago, I wish I had tho, or at least a 4:3 flat

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>>101566631
>my CRT's died on me 5 years ago

>>101566663
exactly mfw

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>>101555477
amdrones btfo

>>101566754
AMD GPU's are never to be trusted