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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CPU
Web browsing: 12100/5600G
Budget: 12600KF/12400F
Gaming: 13600KF/7600X
High end gaming: 7800X3D/13600K
Workstation: 7900X
AVOID: 13900K/14900K https://alderongames.com/intel-crashes

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge/Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Double towers: ID-Cooling FROZN A620 PRO SE, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE
ITX/>42mm RAM: Scythe Fuma 3/TR AXP120-X67

>MOTHERBOARD
ASRock B650M-HDV/M2, B650 LiveMixer, cheap X670

>RAM
DDR4: 2x16GB 3200CL16. Budget, 2x8GB
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AMD), 6400CL32 (Intel)
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: SN580/SN5000
Low mid end: SN770
Premium: Samsung 990 Pro
Flagship: Sabrent Rocket 5

>GPU
1080p: RTX 4070 Super, RX 7700 XT, RTX 4060
1440p: RTX 4070 Ti Super, RX 7800 XT, RTX 4080 Super, RX 7900 GRE
4K: RTX 4090
Workstation: RTX 4000 Series, AVOID: AMD cards

>CASE (from $ to $$$)
mATX: Montech Air 100, Lian Li A3, Asus Prime AP201, Lian Li O11 Air Mini
ATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/III
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, 4000D airflow

>PSU
Budget: Gold rated 500-600W PSU
Mid range: ATX 3.0 compliant fully modular gold rated PSU @ 75% max load
High end: Seasonic PRIME TX
AVOID: GAMEMAX
PSU buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (updated Q3 2024)

>MONITOR
Standout:
1080p: MSI G244F E2
1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D
2160p: Gigabyte M27/28/32U
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tBTGQP

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Budget: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM, NF-A14x25r G2 PWM

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Do not let your kitter sleep on your pc
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It's okay to let your kitter sleep on your PC
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this might be a giga inept tier question
but if my pc while playing counter strike 2 sits at around 40% utilisation for both the cpu and the cpu, why does my framerate tend to average in the 90s, being as low as the 60s during the beginning of matches on maps like ancient on my 144hz monitor? why doesn't the cpu and gpu utilisation go higher to achieve that 144 frame rate limit? maybe it has something to do with my gpu sitting at 40w while playing when under heavy loads it can go up to 215w? oddly enough i get the same performance regardless of gpu settings, yet my cpu utilisation is never close to maxing out, so it's not like the cpu doesn't have more to give
other games perform as expected with the exception of this one
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currently have 10400f and 3060, what (if any) upgrades should i make? looking to move to 4k
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>>101567126
any idea how to remove weird grey sillicone glue shit off fan connecyor in my psu?
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>>101567186
slow ram
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>>101567186
CPU utilization metrics aren't very consistent at detecting CPU bottlenecks, what are your specs?
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2 digit IQ anon here:
How hard is to change a RAM?
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>>101567191
>10th gen
>rtx 3000

just wait for zen5, arrowlake and rtx 5000
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AMD is so dead.
Nvidia and Qualcomm already produce arm based cpus. Microsoft is developing now arm based cpus for its future AI PCs. 20% of PCs are Apple PCs already and growing, also arm based. The Chinese will soon catch up in cpus and they'll be the final nail.
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My CPU undervolt passed OCCT's 12-hour stress test.
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>>101567243
One of the easiest things you can do in a computer. I recommend watching a youtube video and setting your ram settings in bios to auto/default before taking the old sticks out.
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>>101567186
No specs, no help.
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>>101567208

toothpick
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>>101567243
Probably the easiest thing to remove/insert in a modern build. Here's a 1 minute video from MSI showcasing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiNmkDNZcZk

Only thing brainlets or even normal IQ & careless people mess up is the orientation, which is easy to figure out if you pay attention a little, since the "teeth" on the memory aren't uniform, a little notch in both the RAM and DIMM slot lets you know if you aligned right or not.
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>>101567186
im pushing 100+ in cs2 on a low end dgpu laptop on 1080p
your pc must be ancient
I suggest buying newer hardware

>>101567243
press the plastic tabs on the end of the ram slot to release them and pull them out
if you have 2 iq I can't guarantee that you wont crack ram and mobo trying it however
skill level: 0.5/10
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>>101567308
This, I need to know if I should flame him for being an nvidiot.
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>>101567126
Why are server motherboards so much more expensive? It's 5x as much just to get something without gimped pcie slots. I just want to run dual 4090s and 8 striped SSDs so I can play Skyrim why do they try to scam you out of that extra $500 so hard
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pootel shills explain yourselves
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>>101567474
Intel's days are numbered
The poos and Jews are infighting and trying to extract as much value for themselves before the carcass dries up
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Im upgrading my failed RX 480
On one hand i dont want to spend money on unnecessary power that i wont use on a 60Hz FullHd monitor, on the other hand i dont want to get something that is already outdated

RTX 30__ seem to be strictly outclassed in either cost and/or performance by RX 66__

Since the 6600 is most likely perfectly enough for my needs, is there any reason im not taking into account to spend ~50% more on the 4060 for 25% more performance?
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>>101567540
Check prices for the 6600XT, the 6650XT is a factory OCed version of it.
If the 6600XT costs less than 230, it's worth buying.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/z9H7YJ/powercolor-fighter-radeon-rx-6650-xt-8-gb-video-card-axrx-6650xt-8gbd6-3dh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9zbN_ZHU80
AMD bros...
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>>101567723
x86 fags btfo
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>>101567540
Nvidia 4000 series is for Stable Diffusion & other AI stuff, with gaming as a secondary skill.
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>>101567474
It really seems as shrimple as that, pajeets are hell bent on destroying everything that we admire and love. They worm themeselves into those companies and bankrupt them as quickly as possible. It's terryfing. Something has to be done.
>>101567723
AMD is playing the waiting game and confirms that 780x3d won't happen in this gen. Didn't watch the video btw.
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buying a 7800x3d makes me feel compelled to get a 4080, or else I'm just wasting my CPU's potential
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>want one of these
>Incompatible with every motherboard on the market
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I've recently built my own PC, which is my first ever build. For some reason, whenever I boot up I will get intermittent drops in my internet connection that last between 5 and 15 seconds. When I look in Event Viewer, I get the following message: Event 1014 "Name resolution for the name push.services.mozilla.com timed out after none of the configured DNS servers responded."

I have no idea what this means and have exhausted every resource to try and fix this. Does someone here know what this is and how to fix the issue? And whether it is a hardware issue or an ISP issue.

PC specs:
CPU - AMY Ryzen 7900
Motherboard - Gigabyte X670 Gaming X AX
Ram - 64GB 6000MHz
GPU - Radeon 7900XT
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>>101567961
How is it incompatible? At face value you just need a x16 gen 5 slot.
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>>101567961
looks like a regular pci express plug, most boards have those slots
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>>101567529
Jews tend to have some semblance of care towards businesses they run, especially one like Intel with a presence in Israel. Indians, however, do not act like that, save for certain merchant castes like Gujaratis who have that entrepreneurial spirit in them.
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>>101567126
If I want to play cities skyline 2 and make mega cities + best graphics, what specs would be good enough for that? It seems like the minimum system requirement is not that high but if I want good graphics + big cities, I will have to go all out right? Like best GPU and CPU, 16 OR 32 GB RAM, etc. ?

Or honestly, this question is other simulation games as well. If I want to enjoy high GPS with good graphics for them. My current PC wouldn't survive that
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>>101567961
buy a threadripper pro on loan or get an old x299 hedt
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It's fine if one my cooler's heatsinks is very close to my RAM as long as it isn't touching a stick directly, right? Probably a dumb question given that you clip fans directly to them without issue.
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>>101567764
>Intel chips frying themselves and rusting out
>AMD chips recalled before they even go on sale
We need a HERO to return
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>>101568148
Yeah it's fine.
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>>101568163
VIA still make cpus anon.
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>>101568182
How hot do heatsinks get anyway?
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>>101567191
5090 if you wan't a locked 60-80fps in 1080p aka 4k Performance DLSS upscale in the latest gaymes
considering the 4090 is a 50fps 1080p gpu in the latest titles, a 40-50% uplift will make the 5090 a viable 4k upscale from 1080p gpu at 60-80fps with max settings + full rt aka real max settings in psuedo 4k
native 4k is a meme dream, you WILL upscale and you WILL like it, you WILL use 1080p native render and you WILL use Frame Gen if you want 100fps+ solidly

that will be 3k for 5090 gpu + 400-800 bux for the latest fastest cpu that wont bottleneck 1080p render badly
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So these cost basically the same in my country for some reason
Which one do you recommend?
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poozen5 confirmed a flop. amd recalled them to the overclocking factory to give them at least some benefit since moores law is dead and there simply isn't meaningful generational leaps anymore.
buy zen4 now since zen5 will be anotha shoah like intel aviv and the self disintegrating chips
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>>101568280
right if you want black smear and slow pixel transitions and bad viewing angles because VA slop
left if you want bad contrast and more blb because no miniled/localdimming memes but faster pixels
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>$700
>Serbia (fewer parts available and they're all more expensive)
I need a whole new PC minus the keyboard and mouse.

1. Playing older games that require a lot of CPU power on a single or two cores
2. Emulating PS2 and older consoles
3. Playing new games at lowest graphics and 60fps (big doubt)

Is this even possible with my budget or do I need 2k?
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>>101567126
Are the mesh panels on the O11 Air Mini good at keeping dust out of the case?
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>>101567723
Just watched it and it appears this "recall" is a nothing burger. Based on AMD's official statement to them the reason they recalled them is that they found out some of the first batch had issues so they had retailers send them back and they're already shipping them new stock. The 1-2 week delay is to make sure that satores have enough stock and to make sure they get there in time. Steve(HUB) even said that the review samples for creators are currently being shipped per his AMD rep.
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>>101567126
My last component finally arrived. The drive I got is a 2TB SN770, but I already had a 1TB Crucial MX500 2.5" SSD. Since I can choose, should I install Windows on the MX500 and all the games and such on the SN770? Or is it better for everything to be in the same drive? Pic unrelated, I just never get to post it.
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>>101568026
>>101568030
Can't use it if you want a GPU too
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>>101568471
Run the gpu x8 and give x16 to the m.2.
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>>101568465
install your os on the faster drive
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>>101568088
I think it always slows down. So, 7800X3D and RTX 4090 and 64GB of fast DDR5.
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>>101568316
Cpu wise, a 12400F/5600 would be nice. The single threaded performance on even just these is enough to obliterate anything a few generations older, so they should run your games. i3 12100F should also be fine.
Emulating PS2 is something you could do with a 4670k and a 750ti no problem, so no worries here
For the latest games, it'll depend which ones really, but an RX 6600 should run the vast majority of them at 60fps 1080p low. And anything that isn't Alan wake or Cyberpunk-tier should run much better than that
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>>101568465
os and all gaymes on nvmeme because faster read/writes and will make verifying libraries and stuff faster
other ssd as a backup for other things/backup/older gaymes
>>101568316
look at prices and you tell me
how am I supposed to know serbian economics
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>>101568302
>basically no difference between the stock settings
>must overclock out the ass in order to get anything out of it
LMFAO, imagine waiting for this slop
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I've got everything on the motherboard except RAM and cooler. I turned the system on just to check it turns on (I know I can't do anything without RAM), and I get a light for no RAM, and one for CPU is not detected or fail. Is my CPU fucked, or will this just be because of the lack of RAM?
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>>101568018
Try changing DNS servers
https://quad9.net/
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>>101567126
Protip: if you want your cat to chill on your tower, don't have a power or reset button on the top of your case
Lesson learned.
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>>101568525
i don't think there are any consoomer boards that can run that config, best you can get is x8x8 with something like the x670 proart
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>>101568533
>>101568566
Thank you, anons. Nice digits.
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>>101568605
Unless i'm misreading it is possible on the hellishly expensive x670 crosshair extreme.
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>>101568018
Read this, your mobo has AMD Wi-Fi 6E RZ616 as its WiFi chip.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/1bbq600/amd_wifi_rz616_mediatek_crappy_wifi_drivers/
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>>101568018
>>101568663
Also if a different wifi driver doesn't fix it or disabling roaming sensitivity in its settings, try these commands on cmd run as administrator
ipconfig /flushdns
ipconfig /registerdns
ipconfig /release
ipconfig /renew
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>>101568661
>i'm misreading
yep
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>>101568635
It's possible. I looked at your prices on itsvet.com
I built a basic 5500, B450, 3600cl18 16GB, RX6600, 1TB NVME, 650W Bronze PSU
pc on that website just now and had €100 left over for a monitor
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>>101568316
misquoted... heres my reply to your post >>101568731
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>>101568581
you shouldn't be booting a pc without the cooler anon
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gonna save money and build my first pc in like 1-2 months (budget: 600 euro) also i already have the ssd if i didnt i wouldve picked a better one
pcpartpicker:https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zfQy6D
>united states
not where i live btw
I went for intel b660m path because its cheaper than amd where i am also
>750w overkill psu
i went for a pretty good psu with good wattage because i intend in the future to upgrade to i5-12400f and rx 6700xt
thoughts ? im mainly gonna be doing 1080p 60 fps gaming
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>>101568731
just an example maybe i3 12100 or i5 12400 is better for you if it doesn't break your budget
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>>101568804
It was only for five seconds.
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>>101568812
get a cheaper board and the 12400 now. it's a low power chip it doesn't need big vrm
you shouldn't plan your upgrades like that, upgrading to the next step in the same generation is a massive waste of money
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Can someone explain how g-sync/freesync works nowadays? Can you get g-sync working with freesync monitors now or what?
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>>101568842
i don't just mean it's a bad idea in practice, i mean some mobos will give you the cpu error light if it doesn't detect a cooler

i'm pretty sure cpu + cooler + ram is the bare minimum for a bench test unless you're doing a cpu-less bios update
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>>101568863
i5-12400f and i3-12100f are like 45$ difference, do i go for one of those shitty h610m mobos? and just get the i5 12400f but im pretty sure im gonna lose out on pcie gen 4
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>>101568663
>>101568689
Im wired so I dont know if it would be the wifi chip, I've also tried all of those commands but nothing works
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>>101568872
Get someone at least "g-sync compatible".
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>>101568926
idk pcpp listed a really bad price your board
maybe you can get a 12400 used for like $70
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>>101567186
CS2 is primarily single threaded
Most of your cores are sitting fairly idle

>>101567191
Upgrade when RTX 50 comes out
Full rebuild

>>101567243
Generally you shouldn't be messing with your RAM unless you have a really good reason
Most of the time, not worth it

>>101567540
Adaptive sync is one of the most important features of modern gaming, which means you should buy a new monitor. They're cheap, you can get a new 1080p monitor for about $100 or a 1440p monitor for about $200
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>>101568280
miniled va is better for pretty much every application outside of professional esports
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>>101568088
Pretty sure Cities Skylines 2 is a huge resource hog. The first game was heavily CPU limit, but the second is also heavily GPU limited. You pretty much can't buy a good enough PC to play that game well, so 7800X3D + 4090. Otherwise check youtube benchmark videos

>>101568280
The AOC. It has passable HDR.

>>101568307
The AOC's VA panel has decent response times

>>101568465
Install your OS to the SN770, games can go on either or both
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>>101568316
you'll need used parts unless you bump it up to $900 then it's more feasible
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>>101567126
>ASRock PG27QFT2A
This any good? Couldn't find a review on RTINGS so I don't know why it's in the OP.
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>>101568936
Then update your LAN driver
https://www.realtek.com/Download/List?cate_id=584
>Win10/Win11 Auto Installation Program (NDIS)
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>>101569100
TFTcentral has it
https://tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asrock-phantom-gaming-pg27qft2a
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>>101568557
Thanks, I'm checking all of these out right now.

>>101569093
I could potentially do that. Just toss some suggestions my way so I can check the prices and see what's available. What RAM and how much should I get, what power supply, what mobo, etc.
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>>101569170
>didn't measure IPS glow
Seems too good to be true desu, no emulation modes to help manual calibration is really a minor issue since the vast majority of monitors these days are factory calibrated just fine for 95% of users. Do they receive review samples or buy monitors from retailers for 14 days to test them? I'm definitely tempted to buy this one over the G2724D.
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>>101569204
Honestly it's a bit hard to recommend parts without knowing what's available to you. If there's a website you'd use to buy, maybe you could sent it here so we can see what's in stock? Either new or a used marketplace thing
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>>101569284
https://www.itsvet.com/proizvodi-pd1.i
I'm not going to buy used parts, I'd rather save up some extra money. Thanks for any help.
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>>101569267
>Do they receive review samples or buy monitors from retailers for 14 days to test them?
Not sure, although tftcentral is one of the best review sites. It's been around since way before rtings and monitors unboxed
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Anyone here who has owned and can recommend a decent budget 24 inch, 100 or more hz monitor for 1080p Gaming? I want to spend 140$ max and its really hard to pick one out. Plese recommend if you have one that you owned and used for over a year without any issues.
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So if I'm changing my Ram from a 2600mhz stick to a 3200stick should I change something on the BIOS?
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>>101569325
https://pastebin.com/rPVTLmKW I tried something like that. Total is about 80k dinar which I think is around your budget
Was essentially going for "whatever is cheap while still being a decent quality part"

16gb 3200cl16, 1tb of an alright ssd, R5 5600X + RX 6600
aftermarket cpu cooler since the stock one isn't amazing, a decent airflow case that's pretty roomy even if it's a little old, and a 600w psu so you have some room to upgrade to something like a 4070 down the line for example
if you want you can add an extra 120mm at the back of the case too, honestly just about any fan is fine for that purpose
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I'm afraid to buy any Intel CPU now due to the oxidation problem, even alder lake.
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>>101569686
then buy amd, even without oxidation theres enough reason to skip intel
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>>101569647
Thank you very much anon, you're a lifesaver. All I'm missing now is a monitor.
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>>101569686
im afraid to buy any nvidia gpu because of the capacitor plague all those years ago. i only buy radeon and havent looked back.
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When's the intelaviv and njudea merger?
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>>101567263
It's nice to see a tech company not rush broken garbage out and call it bleeding edge, if only intel had some restraint.
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>>101569728
They seem to have a bunch of relatively affortable 1080p 24" IPS 100hz panels. Those are becoming pretty common on the lower end anyway
https://www.itsvet.com/monitor_asrock_cl25ff-pdaa1-31.i?id=8375 something like that (there might be better value options, I didn't look very long admittedly)
it's nothing fancy but the IPS panel should give you alright colors, and 100hz is unimpressive but a very nice upgrade over 60 today
it's nothing incredible but it's still lightyears ahead of the 21" 60hz TN panels you'd have gotten for that price just a few years ago
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>>101569747
>comparing something that hasn't been an issue for years to a current problem affecting their latest gen + possibly the upcoming one
Least dishonest shill
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Is there a modern, AM5 equivalent to the z170-e?
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>>101569828
last I checked nvidia quality control hasnt improved since the capacity plague. their connectors literally melt. aib paste pumps out on purpose to overheat the hotspot. wrong size thermal pads on gddr6x to overheat them too.
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>>101569877
Probably the Prime X670-P
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>>101569807
So IPS is still my best bet. I have one right now and it is dying as I type this after some 5-6 years of use. Thank you very much for your help.
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is ASRock B650M PRO RS WIFI good if i got i at the same price as hdv/m2? also what processor is good for 4070ti in 1440p is 7500f or 7600 enough? what is the difference between these 2 processors
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Should I just bite the bullet and get this one?
The other cards that are at MSRP don't seem to be as good
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>>101568926
h610 does support pcie4 on the x16 slot, unless the mothers website says it won't which would be weird. i got a b660 with upgrades in mind and i'm half regretting it with all the oxidation issues on high end 13/14th gen, but half not since I do like all the USBs/fan connectors.
might be better to get a 12400 now, forget about upgrades and get a new cpu/mobo/ram in the far future
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What are some ways to justify spending $10 to try and fix cooling on a $100 GPU?
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>>101570266
you need to replace the memory and vrm pads too when you take it apart
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>>101570287
eh if I'm careful I shouldn't have to
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>>101570266
with that size you will have leftover for cpu, ssd, or whatever else.
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>>101570293
I don't either heh heh
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>>101570296
It'd just be a waste on those though
I hope they still have the small 20x20mm option
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>>101567126
Has anyone here used alternatives to thermal paste like graphite pads or PTM7950, how well have they worked for you, and do you think they would be good for long-term reliability?
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>>101570310
not really, ssds run hot and the height difference between the controller and chip makes many heatsink solutions whack. ptm7950 is better than pads/paste for this scenario.
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>>101570322
>ptm7950 on a cpu
wasted
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>>101570345
Not if he's on Intel
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>>101568812
if this was not an ultra poverty build a b760m riptide + ddr5 gives you a 5.2ghz overclock on a 12400f beating out a 12900k, 4ghz all core to 5.2ghz, brutal
anyways
>>101568872
that was a long time ago they changed so nvidia works with freesync monnitors too
the difference is the "real" gsync screens has an actual physical module and is better like wider vrr range and variable overdrive if I remember right
>>101569047
*smears in your way*
>>101569055
>The AOC's VA panel has decent response times
can even see the black smear clear as day in pics, sad state of affairs
>>101569525
any of the cheap 144-180hz ips ones there are many
>>101569686
meme that affected small batch
the volt meme solved by manual tuner chads
disable ecores, redeem a manual all core oc, problems solved
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>>101570208
If you're willing to repaste it with PTM7950, sure.
Everything else about the card is good.
People cry about coil whine, but every card boosting near 3GHz GPU core frequency will emit it.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/asus-geforce-rtx-4080-tuf-gaming-with-serial-error-built-in-hotspot-ex-works-material-analysis-and-the-rescue/5/
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>>101570159
1) yes
2) yes and difference is clock speed and the 7600 has an iGPU while the 7500f doesn't
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>>101568556
>>101569055
Dang. Yeah, that's about what I expected. Even with the best setup, it's only enough on a certain level. But having several cities on the same map with 100k population is probably not realistic right now (+ super expensive)

Guess I'll just wait a bit more, I got time
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we live in interesting times: the game that makes people want to run cutting edge hardware is a fucking traffic simulator
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>>101570602
not really? game is just poorly optimized.
people are buying cutting edge hardware just to generate artificial images.
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>>101570322
I'm using it on my desktop cpu, gpu, and my laptop.

Honestly, did not notice a difference in temps but didn't make much attempt to measure and compare, but my temps did not get worse, pretty much stayed the same. It was a pain in the ass to apply and a lot of it got thrown out until I started putting it in the freezer before trying to apply it.

I'm going to use it from now on because when I went to replace the paste on everything including my 1 year old video card, there was effectively no paste remaining and just a chalky mess.
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>>101570621
s/artificial/porn/g
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>>101570322
I used a carbon pad on a radeon VII gpu once and that helped temps in a very minor manner. I recently put some of that ptm stuff on my 7900xtx as the stock paste had started to pump out (first time i've ever had that happen) and temperatures didn't change compared the stock paste when it was new but I don't have to worry about it pumping out ever again.
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If most 4080 super's are fucked by their thermal paste, which one should I get if I have no experience in repasting GPUs?
Should I just get a 4070 super ti instead?
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>>101570322
I use ptm7950 on everything. my 5800x3d, my 6950xt, my 980 pro 2tb.
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>>101570858
repasting is extremely easy man
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>>101570322
The best thing about them is they're reusable. Paste isn't.
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>>101570858
also I don't think it's just the 4080S that have shitty paste, I think it's a general problem across the entire gen
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So apparently my gpu has only 1 hdmi port and 3 dp ports. Right now i use that 1 hdmi port for my monitor but i also want to connect my tv to the pc to watch some movies from time to time. Can i just get a dp to hdmi cable and use this to connect pc to tv or would it better to get a long normal hdmi cable and use the 1 hdmi slot for the tv and then use the dp for my monitor. I dont really know what the difference between those 2 is so im not sure which is the better way to go
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>>101570941
best to buy a dp cable and use it for your monitor and leave hdmi for the tv
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>>101570941
TV HDMI, displayport monitor

Don't buy converters if you don't have to. Displayport is better than HDMI for monitors generally anyway.
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>>101570941
If sound is being played out the TV speakers, use HDMI
If sound is coming out through computer speakers use DP
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>>101570941
Sorry if this is confusing but basically i wanna know what is better. Option A: Use the single HDMI slot for my monitor and a DP slot for the TV with a DP to HDMI cable. Option B: Use the single HDMI slot for my TV with a long HDMI cable and use a DP Slot for my standart monitor.
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>>101570965
B
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>>101570965
B
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>>101570965
Option B.
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>>101567126
Ahhh, the shit OP again!
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>>101570958
>>101570959
>>101570962
>>101570970
>>101570971
>>101570974
Gotcha, thanks. Im getting a new monitor too so i will definitely make sure it has a DP port
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>>101568872
Nvidia cards can do gsync and freesync. Amd cards can do freesync. Consoles use freesync.

Gsync is proprietary and mostly rare (only in monitors not TVs). Just make sure what you buy either does both or freesync, and make sure the freesync range doesn't suck (ie: you want something like 30-144hz range not 100-144hz or some dumb shit).
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>>101570928
>>101570858
its affects everyone (amd+nvidia+intel). its their board partners. reference/FE are using ptm or pads already. the people with higher end cards (4080 super, 4090, 7900xtx) are going to complain about it harder since it they run hotter and you notice the fans/temps rising.
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4060 or 7700XT? How true is the AMD drivers are bad meme?
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>>101571047
The drivers are fine.
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What's your opinion on the AOC Q27G3XMN? Is it better than just getting the IPS dell G2724D?
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>>101571047
remember that for both gens every gpu is a tier behind. so a 4060 is actually a 4050 and a 7700xt is actually a 7600xt.

the 7700xt is still better.
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>>101571047
>4060 or 7700XT?
Depends on the usage
>How true is the AMD drivers are bad meme?
False, always worked for me, looniks user btw
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>>101571023
The shit paste seems to be a recent issue seeing as we're only hearing about it from latest gen GPU owners. My hope is that all AIBs move to ptm7950, some of them already ilise it anyways so it can't be that expensive.
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>>101567126
Not sure if this is the right place to ask. I have a 1920x1080 laptop. If I want to use a second monitor as my main display and increase my screen resolution. If I buy a bigger hdml display, would the resolution on that screen still be 1920x1080 or will the bigger display monitor have an option to increase my laptop's screen resolution?
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>>101568872
yes but watch out with older amd freesync monitors. some only support freesync on amd due to some proprietary features
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I'm looking for a new monitor, but having a hard time finding one. Something with about the following specs
>1080p
>23-25"
>100hz+
>decent colors (studying a field where this has some importance)
>not ugly as fuck or 'gamer' looking in any way (autism)
>not too expensive
The only monitor I've found so far that kind of fits is the Viewsonic XG2431, but it's 350 eurobucks where I live. I only play single player games so 240hz is a bit excessive too. Any good options?
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>>101571223
>as we're only hearing about it from latest gen GPU owners
its been happening for a while now. if you look at used market threads online a bunch of people complaining about shitty pumped paste on 6000 series or fucked up pads on nvidia.
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>>101571292
>not ugly as fuck or 'gamer' looking in any way (autism)
This is the hard one, pretty much impossible I'm afraid. Fucking retarded children with retarded enabling parents who buy the ugly Gilette razor design shit
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>>101571292
>>101571317
That said, it gets a lot better if you use a VESA mount instead of the stand it comes shipped with
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I can't figure out if I got the 12VHPWR or the 12V-2x6 ports / cables with my PSU.
>Googling pics of 12VHPWR vs 12V-2x6 and I can't fucking tell the difference, extremely unhelpful
>Manual simply states "a 16-pin PCI Express cable" like that would fucking help
FUCK
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>>101571376
just plug it in bro
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>>101571331
That's a good suggestion, and something I'll probably end up doing if nothing else works out. Some of the monitors, like Lenovo's g24-20, look fairly ordinary if you just replace the 1337 epic gamer design stand. It's just an additional cost
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>>101571376
PSU, it's most likely 12VHPWR.
There's only one publicly disclosed case of someone melting their PSU's 12VHPWR connection.
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>>101571273
Do you mean to ask if you can set your main display to have some other resolution than the laptop's original display? If so, that's definitely possible
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>>101571410
>>101571439
Ah they're interchangeable, that explains a lot. Got worried I'd have to buy another cable. Nice
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>>101571292
Im also searching for a new monitor rn with similar stats as yours. Wanted to get a 24inch, 100hz and IPS. And my budget is kinda tight rn so keep that in mind. A list of my potential picks are: Asus VA24EHF, Asus VY249HF, BenQ GW2490E. Some of the letters at the end switch up depending on what size, hz number or different ports you select on the amazon product page so you can change some of that. These are all 85-120€.
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>>101571485
What do I have to do to do this? Just make sure the external monitor has a bigger screen resolution and it will allow me to display my laptop's windows os as the new resolution on the external display?
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I'm debating whether I should return my 4070 super for a ti super
It doesn't struggle in any games, I'm just worried about it's longevity, given it only has 16gb of vram
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>>101571595
literally just right click desktop and enter display settings, you'll figure it out
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>>101571604
kwab, get a 7900gre.
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>>101571604
>16gb of vram
I mean 12
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>>101567126
>1440p: ASRock PG27QFT2A, Dell G2724D
Is this up to date? I'm looking for a good 1440p monitor, I really don't care about response times and 9000Hz refresh rates I don't play fast paced games.
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>>101571604
Which is worse to you, dealing with an RMA and -$200 or turning textures down? Answer that and you'll know what to do.
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What are my best options for a GPU at $400?
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>>101571565
Thanks for the suggestions. My budget is somewhere around 200, but if I can get a good one for cheaper that's good too. These are all pretty clean looking, I like the Benq in particular
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>>101571689
A 3070 ti perhaps
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>>101571691
For up to 200 you can definitely get a better one but for me personally i think unless you wanna play fast pace games or competetive shooters you can save a lot of money and go with a cheaper one. For 1080p 24inch and 100hz is great for normal/singleplayer gaming and other stuff. But I would definitely get an IPS panel. Good luck with your search.
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>>101571689
>6800
Default choice for minmaxed 1440p builds right now.
>4060Ti
If DLSS or low power consumption is desirable at the cost of significant reduction in raw performance.
>Used 3080
Ideally the 12GB model but take what you can get. Has both good perf and DLSS but sucks power like the Chris Chan straw.
>6800XT
Current lowest price on PCPP is $430 but worth mentioning if you can stretch. Best raster out of the cards here and plenty of VRAM. Also pretty power hungry.
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>>101571818
100hz is definitely enough. Just jumping from 60 to 75 was pretty impressive. I think I'll still pour in some extra money for G-sync compatibility. Good luck to you too anon
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Is there a reason why to avoid the silent cases especially the Corsair 4000D?
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how do i test my gpu for errors?
my pcie lock broke off and i think gpu was sagging for a bit and i was getting blackscreens. after reseating its okay tho.
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Which is better, i7 14700k or the ryzen 7 7800x3d?
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Does it make sense to go for 7950x3d over 7800x3d if I'm doing mostly gaymen but want to eventually do more work-oriented things like art or science (probably physics modelling/data analysis)?
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>>101572007
The 14700K is do-not-buy until Intel releases their microcode update. Once that happens, and assuming it actually works and doesn't cripple the CPU, pick the 7800X3D for gaming and the 14700K for workstation/multicore (with or without gaming).
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>>101571995
anyone?
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>>101572018
you should wait for 9950x3d
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Just paid some website to assemble a PC for me. It came and works fine but none of the product boxes came with it. When I emailed them to ask where MY boxes are they called me a faggot cumlicker.
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>>101571821
This 6800?
https://www.newegg.com/xfx-radeon-rx-6800-rx-68xlaqfde/p/N82E16814150886?Item=9SIAD2CK621354
The only other ones I see on PCPP are going for over a thousand and I'm curious why this one's so low in comparison
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>>101572155
>>101571995
depends on what type of error you're looking for. a gpu is a complete system basically.
gpu core error? test a demanding game or something like furmark.
memory error? test an app thats memory controller heavy like https://github.com/GpuZelenograd/memtest_vulkan
vddio/vddci error? you need a multimeter to poke around the board.
anything more advanced than that involves board repair
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Bros, how do I sell my Intel CPU for full price?
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>$1000
>12 core threadripper
>Upgradeable to 64 core processors which will be had for pennies in a few years
>80 fully usable uncucked pcie 4.0 lanes
>Supports 512GB RAM
How is it that a 5 year old stinkstation is the best deal in terms of futureproofing right now? Consumer motherboards and CPUs have been abysmal the last few years
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Is the gigabyte 4080 SUPER Windforce V2 good? I heard some anons saying to avoid the windforce cards a while ago, not sure if that still applies
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>>101567286
What's a good price for a 12900K or KS in current year?
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>>101572239
Yeah. Looks like the stock is pretty depleted; that model is all that's left. Not a great cooler but still the go-to if you're minmaxxing your FPS/$.
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>>101571977
Doing some research and it seems "G-sync compatible" is just a label that means it at least somewhat functions with G-sync. Non-certified monitors could work just as well on NVIDIA cards. This shit is so fucking confusing
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>>101572253
thank you anon, i also saw someone testing ai memory or something in some kind of bios program perhaps you know what it is?
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What's the name of those little things that prop up the keyboard? Mine broke. Is there a product on Amazon that I can buy that isn't a whole fucking contraption to elevate my keyboard?
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>>101572308
G-sync Compatible is the norm now. Works with any card from the 10-series onward. The old school hardware G-sync, now G-sync Ultimate, is only found in some Xtreme xxxMLGxxx Gaming monitors these days.
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>>101572294
It's tempting, but a bunch of reviews seem to mention hot+loud and I assume that's not good for overall longevity
I'm guessing the $420 6800XT is low for a similar reason?
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So I got a 3090 recently and now my pc makes a super high pitched noise barely within audible sound, which gives me bad tinnitus thay sticks around for ages. I'm guessing it's either the 3090 or the psu. The 3090 has its own coil whine when under load which is much lower pitched so completely manageable, but this is an extrememly high pitched noise perfectly constant in volume and pitch. Any thoughts on what it is and how I can remedy?
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>>101572417
The cheapest card is almost always going to have crappy cooling - extra metal costs money. If you want a cool/quiet build you'll have to up your budget or lower your performance expectations. That or learn to undervolt.
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>>101572421
it can be both the gpu and psu. not much you can do about it besides replacing.
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>>101572398
But isn't "G-sync compatible" just a certificate? Online sources say adaptive sync works on Nvidia cards just fine on monitors without the label, it just isn't turned on by default. Wouldn't this mean any monitor with just some kind of adaptive sync (and decent range) is okay?
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>>101572421
If it's relevant at all, there are suspect capacitors on my mobo too. I know this because the bios resets to factor settings when there is a power cut.
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>>101572465
g-sync compatible labels means they had no issues using freesync on nvidia gpu. certain freesync monitors that arent gsync compatible can have compatibility issues with nvidia ranging from vrr flicker at best to black screens at worse.
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>>101572465
Yes G-Sync Compatible is just Nvidia's certification program for the VESA Adaptive Sync standard and yes most monitors that support that will also work with Nvidia cards regardless of the certification. That said there's not much, if any, price difference between certified and uncertified monitors so no reason to risk it.
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>>101572493
>>101572496
Alright, thanks for the clarification
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>>101572459
crazy. the psu was from seasonic who as far as I know are not cheapskates, and I just got the gpu the other week second hand. My old pc had this tinnitus white noise problem too. Who eoudvle thought it would reappear on a build with completely different parts!
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>>101572160
Just because it's coming out in 3 weeks? If the release weren't just delayed, I'd be more amenable to waiting because I don't really want to wait any longer. Shouldn't the 7800x3d or 7950x3d be good enough? Sure, they'll fall off faster since they're older, but they'll still be a colossal improvement over what I have now.
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I know this might not be the place, but my buddy builds arcades. He’s trying to fix up a game. Alien Extermination. The frame rate is too high, and he can’t figure out how to lower it.
Would you guys know anything about that?
He’s running it on an emulator.
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Christ what is going on with intel chips!? A 5600x beating a 12900k doesn't happen every day.
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>>101572999
computers love INFINITY CACHE
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>>101573055
No fancy cache on a 5600x though.
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>>101572999
That awkward moment when your game gets scheduled on an estrogen core
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>>101572999
surprising that the x3D CPUs beat the 14900k in XIV, bench reports on forums usually had 14900k systems pulling way ahead of the 7800x3D
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>>101573110
power of chiplets. something something architectural ccd advantage with electricity pathing.
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I think I am going to wait™ for the next rtx 50 gpu series. What do we know so far? I am not even interested in speed, but more in ray/path tracing capabilities. What do we think, can we play path traced games on a midtier rtx 5060 without having to fork out 1000 dollars like we would have to do for a 4080?
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>>101571075
VA slop smear
>>101571292
Every Asus and msi looks like this
>>101572270
Less than 200 since a 12700kf or even a 12400f oc are competitors
Estrogens cores need not apply
>>101572999
Gn doesn't play games, testing with 3200 ram, many more reasons
>>101573216
4090 is a 1080p50 gpu in rt
5090 will be a 1080p75 gpu in rt
No this is not a meme, this is reality
Yes I'm serious
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>>101573242
>4090 is a 1080p50 gpu in rt
I know... But I played Cyberpunk on my friends 4090 rig and it looks absolutely beautiful. Me want. But not going to fork out that kind of money
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>>101573269
Jensen WILL market the 5090 as a true 4k144hz gpu
1080p75 + P DLSS + FG = 4k144hz

Save up 3k NOW and get your jar of Vaseline for your rear prepped for Jensen's entry, it's happening
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whats a program i can run now that can make me go "wow pretty graphics in real time"
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why do people not realize that anything other than 96 PPI on displays is literally a meme designed to make you spend more money on monitors and GPUs? your OS isn't even designed for it.

anything other than the following is basically a meme and you're wasting your money

22-24" 1080p

27-32" 1440p

42-48" 2160p
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>>101570428
>If you're willing to void your warranty
it's not worhti t
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>>101573410
This. Do it once your warranty runs out. Before that if it craps out and you still have warranty, just get a replacement.
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I'm thinking of going with the AOC 24G4X. Solid specs and not offensively ugly, even if a bit gamer-y, and 150 eurobucks on sale. Good choice?
t. >>101571292
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>>101573366
go make another thread about how you can't see above 60hz
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>>101573366
1440 27 is too high then why are you recommending it
4k 42 too

What viewing distance are we talking about? On a normal desk 1080p 24 is not especially hard to notice
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>>101567126
>>SSD (OS drive)
what about non-os SATA SSD drives. what's the storage capacity/price sweetpoint there these days?
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>>101573499
it's not really possible to get a perfect 96ppi as it's up to manufacturers and their panel production. You just want it to be close.
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>>101570208
Worth spending a little extra to get a good card like the TUF Gaming. Anon's >>101570428 link isn't a representative sample.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-4080-super-tuf/39.html
https://youtu.be/nPJR4LQ-IKc?si=_3PoXsM9HecX6zIT&t=650

>>101570858
>If most 4080 super's are fucked by their thermal paste
They aren't
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>>101573499
27 1440p is like 109ppi, totally reasonable at 100% scaling. the point is that you choose a monitor based on your screen real estate needs/multi-monitor setup preferences, not resolution, because you shouldn't be straying from the list in >>101573366 for any valid reason
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>>101571047
>How true is the AMD drivers are bad meme?
Still true. The drivers crash regularly, Radeon lacks software features, and the drivers have systemic flaws, such as problems with memory
management or DX11.

>4060 or 7700XT?
They're in different price classes, unless you mean the 4060 Ti. Personally I would avoid Radeon, although if you're obsessed with the $400 price class, you can find arguments for the 7700 XT in contrast to the 4060 Ti, which can't be said for most price classes. The 4060 and 4060 Ti have their own problems: they have mediocre VRAM (which can occasionally mean lower settings than a card with higher VRAM), and they have x8 PCIe lane connections, compounding the VRAM issue when the card needs to transfer a lot of data back and forth over the cut down bus, especially if you're not using a PCIe 4.0 system.

7700 XT: Radeon's systemic flaws, such as shitty reconstruction (FSR). Not worth the money if you can avoid it
4060 Ti: Too much money for an 8 GB, x8 lane graphics card
4060: An option, decent for people with PCIe 4.0 systems who want a (((((cheap))))) graphics card. Has DLSS Frame Gen, but the 8 GB memory cache means that Frame Gen will be sometimes difficult to use, as it takes VRAM, so in some games you'll be deciding between Frame Gen and higher texture settings or other settings that use VRAM, like RT in some implementations (although the 4060 isn't generally strong enough for RT anyway)
3060 12 GB: Slightly less powerful than the 4060, but has a full x16 lane PCIe bus and was designed for PCIe 3.0. Good for upgrading older systems. Lacks DLSS Frame Gen, but has more VRAM, meaning FSR Frame Gen will be easier to use and you won't have worry about performance problems related to VRAM
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>>101573576
Yes and 32 is a lot closer than 27 1440p
And people complain about that ppi quite often

Adding 5 inches is a fuck ton, ask your mom
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>>101573613
you don't disagree with me
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>>101573600
That was not the point
>>101573618
I do, since you could see the difference at normal desk distance from 96ppi vs higher at 60-80cm
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Is the difference between a good aircooler and a good AIO big?
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>>101573686
yes, 360mm radiators and higher AIOs are still untouchable even with noctua's latest cpu cooler
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>>101571075
Better than IPS, as the IPS has horrible contrast and glow. The Q27G3XMN has decent response times for VA, higher native contrast, and enhanced contrast because of the FALD miniLED backlight. Keep in mind that it's a budget HDR monitor, meaning the zones are fairly large (so there will be noticeable blooming around points of light in dark scenes). Still a better option than IPS in my opinon

>>101570414
>>101573242
>Q27G3XMN smears
It's maybe slightly worse than the IPS of yesterday, but the tradeoff is the contrast
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g3xmn

>>101571292
>where I live
You'll have to do your own research

>>101571604
>I'm just worried about it's longevity
Not a concern. 8 GB only occasionally causes any problems (i.e., less than max settings); 12 GB will be fine through the end of this console generation and into the next

>>101571629
The other notable option is the q27g3xmn, which has budget HDR capabilities
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>>101573686
when you slap your cpu with high turbo load instantly, heres the difference:

>aircooler revs up fans instantly
>watercooler is silent until 5 mins later it warms up
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Should I go for 64gb ram or is that overkill for gaming/browsing?
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3 140 fans or 2 180 fans? I want the lowest temps possible while keeping fan speed down.
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>>101567289
dang, nice, do most CPU's not pass?
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>>101573756
that assumes you actually have a setup that lets you set fan speed based on water temperature which many don't
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>>101573776
if you have no specific reason to get 64gb you'll be fine with 32
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>>101573776
I'd say 32 is more than you'd ever need. 16 is probably the minimum these days. I see no value in 64.
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>>101570208
that's a nice card anon, enjoy it guilt free
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>>101573796
the pump is doing most of the work. most have it running at 100% if the fan is running at 40% or higher. depending on you setup you need more or less. the bigger the radiator, the longer it takes for the water to heat up. a 360 aio for example takes more like 20 mins.
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>>101570345
i want to repaste my 3080, should i just use kryonaut?
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>>101571689
That's an unfortunate price class, as there's nothing good at that price point. Read >>101573610. My advice would be to either punt with the 3060 12 GB or 4060 non-Ti for under $300, or up you budget to $600 for a 4070 Super. The latter is preferable from a performance standpoint. If you can find a decent 3080 on the used market (and undervolt), probably the best option if you want to stick to the $400 price point

>>101572007
The 13th and 14th gen i7s are in the midst of stability woes, do not buy. Between the two, if you're only gaming, I would get the 7800X3D anyway, as gaming doesn't care about muh cores, which is the benefit of the 14700K. The 14700K is a multicore CPU primarily (i.e., CPU Blender rendering, video editing, etc.)

>>101572269
I would say no. The only Gigabyte cards worth buying are the ones with the Quiet BIOS switch (and of course you have to use it), meaning the Gaming and (I believe) Eagle variants are acceptable
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>>101573835
steve said your pump should always be at 100% thoughbeit
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>>101573835
yes, but the core temps still rise at load, so unless you have the fan speed set based on water temperature or have static speed then they will still quickly spin up in response to load
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Remember to ignore the shill.
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>>101571818
>>101571977
>100hz
There are no decent 100 Hz monitors. The minimum is 144 Hz, as they're recent panels with good adaptive sync implementations.

>>101572465
>without the label
You definitely want to make sure that monitors without the G-sync compatible label have good adaptive sync implementations. A lot of them have major flaws, which means you need to be able to find a professional review that addresses adaptive sync quality

>>101572371
Feet? >>>/g/mkg

>>101573216
>What do we think, can we play path traced games on a midtier rtx 5060
I would say no or barely. Right now I would say the 4080 Super is the minimum for good performance and image quality with path traced games like Cyberpunk 2077 with RT overdrive. Likely the RTX 5070 will be nearly 4080 Super performance

>>101573353
Cyberpunk 2077 with path tracing, Metro Exodus Enhanced, Portal RTX, Dying Light 2 with RT, Alan Wake 2 with path tracing
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>>101573678
>I do, since you could see the difference at normal desk distance from 96ppi vs higher at 60-80cm
doesn't really matter if you notice a difference being that you'd get used to it + the OS isn't designed for a high PPI.
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>>101573870
the liquid freezer 3 pump at 100% is fucking annoying though, are you seriously supposed to run that all the time?
considering it's one of the quietest I can't imagine what dealing with other AIOs is like
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>>101573366
No

>>101573776
Overkill
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>>101574000
a 57 PPD target is irrelevent if you don't use macOS, and even then it's literally pre-rendering the image at a higher resolution and upscaling.
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>>101574073
No

>upscaling
You meant downscaling, if that was even a brain fart. Also no
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>>101570999
>only in monitors not TV’s
False.
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>>101573366
I use the lg c2 as my primary display and it’s great but it really needs a curve at that size the edges really aren’t comfortable to use
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For $3,200 would you rather get a 14900K/4090 build or an M2 Max Mac Studio? No memes. They're both drastically different when it comes to benefits.
Apple's RAM/SSD pricing is a scam but I'm liking their silicon. I could run Windows in a VM comfortably even though it'll be crippled so that's a good cope.
The delays, Intel's CPU issues, and AMD's drivers have me considering switching.
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>>101574247
No one should buy anything until AMD launches zen 5
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What is going on here... how is AMD remotely competitive with Intel when their memory subsystem tests so poorly?


https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ram-benchmark-hierarchy
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>>101574331
Still July 31 or are they gonna delay it?
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>>101574414
Who the fuck said AMD was ever better than Intel? They're just cheaper.
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need a new chair, any recommendations under or around 300€?
I'm in EU so no used market, no 200$ aeron or free leap v2, most brands don't export shit here
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>>101574414
AMD runs Gear 1 while Intel runs Gear 2. AMD has lower memory latency (up until you hit the meme fabric).
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I sold my 7950X and I'm waiting for the 9950X, should I upgrade my RAM too or are 6000mhz enough? A 32x2 6000 kit was outrageously expensive already
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>>101574247
>14900K/4090 build or an M2 Max Mac Studio
7800X3D and Asus ROG Strix 4090. Or better yet, wait for AMD 9800x3d, 5090, x870e
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>>101567263
I bet they cut corners just like Intel. Probably the exact same shit causing oxidation off the CCX module connects. And they're trying to hide it as a packaging error or something because they have good yields on TSMC's yesteryear fabs.

There needs to be an actual regulatory body like the FTC that does what the fucking FTC is SUPPOSED to do
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>>101574247
the mac is guaranteed to not explode or kill itself unlike the 14900k and 4090
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>>101567126

hello anons
I'm looking to upgrade the ship of Theseus
>budget: anywhere from 1-5K usd
>purpose, mainly video editing, but I also do emulation and vidya

is this reasonable?

-I could go for aGygabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX instead of the b650 but I was like "eh, I dont need that many USB ports"
-vulcan z is for a cheapo boot drive
-psu is for a later monitor/gpu upgrade

I'm also looking for recs on coolers, some of the ones listed in the OP are not available in newegg, not interested in liquid cooling
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>>101574575
>shilltel copelets are still seething
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>>101574575
Lol no, they are just having issues hitting boost clocks (safely) because of the wider cores. TSMC does not cut corners.
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>>101574613
>TSMC does not cut corners.
>Both AMD and Intel start having issues when they 100% commit to their fabs
Sure Chang.
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>>101574625
AMD committed to TSMC 5 years ago. Apple has been using TSMC for a very long time, and they aren't hesitant to cut off a partner that screws up.
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>>101574584
the mac is also guaranteed to be useless for everything except webdev
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>>101574634
mhmk
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>>101574632
They both love TSMC because their chinkshit is absolute trash and constantly prone to breakage. Keeps the customer coming back regularly.

Intel is just late to the party out of ego.
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>>101574712
>They both love TSMC because their chinkshit is absolute trash and constantly prone to breakage
I wonder what you think of Intel 7 then...
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Is a 4600g just a 3600 but with an integrated gpu? The specs look about the same.
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>>101574421
delayed to August 15 so Intel has time to humiliate itself with the microcode patch
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>>101574247
>14900K
Not upgradable, overheating garbage, DoA socket.
>M2 Mac
Not upgradable, dogshit GPU performance, dogshit multicore CPU performance scaling, DoA I/O.
>Ryzen 7000 CPU + RTX 4090/RX 7900
Perfection.
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>Intel has to cheat in Cinebench using diversity cores
>meanwhile AMD makes 6-core CPUs perform like 8 simply by making SMT decent
KEK!
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>>101574592

also thinking of adding a Gygabyte - M28U monitor to replace my 1080p but I would like something with better blacks and anti glare
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>>101574995
this is more indicative of their shitty ST and/or memory performance.
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>>101574502
im buying 7950x and ignoring ryzen 9000
i find consooming latest parts stupid, i will not beta test for free. i rather buy tested, well documented parts, plus 7950x is already faster than i need.
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>>101575268
I didn't ask you.
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>>101575278
it will easily last me 6-8 years. plus i can then get zen 6 when the cpu isnt enough anymore as a last upgrade.
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>>101574502
6000mhz will be enough but ryzen 9000 sweetspot is looking to be 7200mt/s after that italian 9900x reviewer confirmed 2400mhz fclk
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its kinda crazy how much lower temps you can get from delidding a cpu and using liquid metal
its dangerous as fuck, but its still cool
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>>101575782
If you want to go crazier there are cpu coolers that can reach the freezing point of water.
then you have a new problem to solve, water condensation inside your case or you fry your motherboard.
a lot of benchmark score chasers do this shit and it's wild.
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>>101575595
Maybe I'll upgrade when DDR5 prices start to come down
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>>101574889
Yes, but half cache, so the 4600G is actually worse
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>>101567540
Why not a 6700 XT or 6750 XT? Same price as the 4060 with better performance and 4GB more VRAM.
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>>101574889
No. It has only 8MB of cache.
5600G is comparable to a 3600, a tiny bit faster on average on account of the Zen 3 cores and extra clock speed.
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ACK
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>>101575914
You will get a new one, it's still within the warranty period.
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>>101575989
>implying anyone wants a new one
a ryzen 7600 outperforms your trash intcel sandwaster easily
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>>101575914
>Devs now treating intel crash reports as invalid
This is plain and simple discrimination
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>>101575914
antisemitism
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>>101573242
> 4090 is a 1080p50 gpu in rt
Not if you activate DLSS. Which you are supposed to do when gay racing.
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>>101576046
>>101576077
buy intcel trash, get intcel prizes, simple as
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Is a 6750XT good for budget 1080P?
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>>101576182
Yes, even a 6600 is fine for 1080p
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Upgrading from a 3700x and 1660 Super to a 5700x3D and 7900 GRE. Will my 650w PSU be enough, or am I going to cause a house fire?
>estimated wattage: 548w
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tt6qCd
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>>101576384
Depends on the 7900 gre, the PowerColor 7900 GRE Red Devil for example calls for a 800w minimum psu.
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>>101576384
might as well get a new PSU
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>Buildzoid dropped a 2hr video on Intel
>he's getting 1.6v while the PC is idle
No wonder this shit is dying in 2 months
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>>101576457
average intcel quality
amazing how this shit made it past QC
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>>101575914
>Problematic CPU Detected
>Problematic
Kek, they're not mincing their words at all
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>>101575914
What is wrong with those 13th gen pieces of shit? I had one in a laptop and my games were microstuttering all over the place, I looked up the problems and it was specifically related to 13th gen intel. I returned that garbage immediately.
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>>101576717
>>101576717
>>101576717
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>>101573610
You need to stop drinking the jewvidia kool aid dude its going to your brain



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