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>intel unusable
>amd buggy

That's it, I'm switching to ViA.

>>101576911
just buy a skylake 10000

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>>101576935
10th gen bros stay winning

>>101576717
what's going on with these anyway, are intel sending replacements?

>>101577026
Their i9s are falling at a never before seen rate, estimated to be between 15-25% at the low end to as high as 50-100% when running certain tests.
They are too cheap to do a recall
To get a replacement, you need to contact them yourself, go through their rma process and pray that they don't deny your request

I'd like some advice: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g2rYvj
I'm buying from Germany, and upgrading/making a new workstation. Primary use will be Blender/CAD, as well as some various multi-core workloads. I don't plan on gaming. The GPU and monitor are transferring over, but as I want to move to an SFF format and also turning the old hardware into a server, I'm buying most of it new.

>>101577067
9950x launches in 2 and a half weeks
I'd suggest waiting until then to pick up a discounted 7950x or the new 9950x

>>101577087
I'd love to wait two and a half weeks, but I would prefer to get this done sooner rather than later. Should I find a cheaper AM5 CPU to hold out until the launch?

>>101577067
As a sidenote, not listed is one NF-A12x15 and one NF-A12x25 fan, to replace the stock fans on the Thermalright AIO. From other builds in the NCASE T1 it seems they're required.

>>101577103
well the new cpus will be faster but they will also be more expensive
the old cpus may drop in price but not significantly

>>101577135
I'm honestly not sure if the small build that I'm planning will have the thermal capacity to take full advantage of such a chip. I was planning on underclocking the 7950x to make it more efficient and fit better into the available thermal envelope available. I plan to put the radiator at the top of the case and use the fans to exhaust through it to draw in new air from the bottom.

I need a new cpu cooler (no aio), and my case allows for a maximum height of 150mm. Should I get something like the NH-C14S or the Dark Rock TF 2 or should I get something like the Peerless Assassin 120 and just leave the side panel open? I guess doing the latter would be better, so that when I'll upgrade my case in the future I won't have a dwarf cooler for no reason

>>101577187
> just leave the side panel open
works if you have no pets, but also allows everything (dust, esd, feet) to get into the computer.

What CPU and case do you have? The usefulness of a CPU cooler is highly dependent on how much heat you have to dissipate, and how much air you have to do it with. Even something low profile can get really decent cooling performance if you get enough fresh air over it.

>>101577187
Also, I have been using the NH-D12L (dual tower, 145mm) for a few years now (even in a pretty small case, the Thermaltake Core G3) and have had no issues with heat whatsoever.

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>>101576717
dont really wanna go to the cesspool that is /v/ so ill ask here
whats a good (value?) wireless pc controller with hall effect sticks? ive had 3 official xbox controllers replaced under warranty because they get that shit ass stick drift and i cbf dealing with it anymore
must be aussie seller (amazon au would be best) since we get better consumer protection in exchange for paying out the ass

>>101577145
The next gen is going to have the same or better power efficiency. They all boost based on thermal headroom so no power tuning is necessary unless you want efficiency for financial reasons.

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>>101577145
The new chips are expected to be priced around the same as ryzen 7000's launch msrp or slightly less, and we know from the anandtech leaker that the 9950x has better performance than the 7950x above 60W of power
>https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-9950x-gets-tested-at-253w-and-unlimited-ppt-settings

>>101577251
>>101577245
Guess it does make sense to wait then. How easy is it to buy chips straight off launch? Is it typical that they go out of stock quickly or just get marked up a lot?

>>101577277
its typical that both those things happen for the first batch

>>101577281
So I probably have to wait even longer? :(

>>101577295
You could always choose to go 7950x after reviews drop on 14 August

>>101577295
if its going to be used for work, just buy it now.
this place is full of waitfags who never buy anything or will spend a year waiting for a $20 discount

is this something i should be concerned about? 13700 non-k

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>>101577474
oops

>>101577485
How severe is the throttling and what cooler are you running?

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Seriously guys. Can't find any information.
Red light near VGA, PC working just fine.
MB gigabyte b650m aorus elite ax

Manual only has information about what to do when there is no image or something.
Google says nothing except some r*ddit threads where people are complaining without solution.

The only problem I found is bad power cable connection and it wasn't the case.

>>101576717
kinda off topic but I'll post it anyway
I just bought a Racing Sim but I want to put it downstairs, in my living room with my TV.
I also have I have are bunch of pic rel.
My options are:

a.) Streaming WIRELESSLY from my main PC with Steamlink/moonlight (note: my router is also downstairs with my TV)
b.) Upgrade one of pic related so it can MAYBE handle Racing Sims
c.) Buy some cheapo tower PC

I don't need 4k 240hz RTX shit, 120hz 1080p is ideal but I need atleast 60hz.

>>101577474
>>101577485
since it triggers on only 1 core, probably not

>>101577580
take the gpu out and put it back in

>>101577580
Install CachyOS

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>>101577584
im a dumb dumb,

>>101577584
buy some cheapo pc that can handle whatever sim you want at whatever res and fps you desire

>>101577584
>WIRELESSLY
You need something with a gigabit ethernet port to even consider playing through streaming.

>>101577600
Lmao

>>101577683
Yeah I know, I have 10 of these fuckers. Plus I have 290x lying around somewhere/

>>101577580
https://www.reddit.com/r/gigabyte/comments/162twe9/b650_aorus_elite_ax_red_vga_light_despite_working/

Literal first result on jewgle, did you even try

How long does memory training take when you first turn on an AM5 system, and is there anything on screen to indicate it's working? Just so when I turn it on, I know whether the PC is not working, or if I just let it cook.

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>>101577580
probably the vga light like other anons suggested
weird because your board's leds are located differently than what's shown on gigabyte's website

>>101577764
about 45 seconds to 1 minute after a clear cmos
no nothing shows on the screen
the only signs of life is the board's boot leds

>>101577103
>I'd love to wait two and a half weeks,
great, that settles it then

>>101577777
Does that apply to a first time build? First time everything is connected together? I've seen some people say 15 mins, some people say more, some say less, I don't know who to believe.

>>101577764
Just to add to the other anon's figure, ~1 minute is average but it can take longer. Don't reboot the system right on the mark - leave it running for at least 5 minutes just in case. Indeed, if you're running 48GB+ you might even want to leave it for 10 minutes before you start troubleshooting because higher capacities take longer to train.

>>101577792
Yes
Taking >2min to boot happens when you run an early 2023 bios
My board came preinstalled with a December 2023 bios and booted within a minute on first boot

Is there a small (6L or so) ITX case that only fits very small GPUs but in exchange can actually fit a decent CPU cooler?

>>101577780
>wait two and a half weeks
>chips sold out
>wait another two weeks
>oh boy 150% markup over msrp
sounds fun

>>101577926
This never happens anymore.

>>101576457
The insane part is intel can't just lower voltage across the board with microcode updates as it will mean some chips won't be able to hit their advertised clocks (or worse, try to and just crash). Getting that 6ghz seemingly needs suicide voltage and I bet this problem will get worse as the chips age and probably on a very quick timescale (say, a couple years) as well.

>>101577956
You can't prove that it won't. It's happened before, and it certainly can happen again.

>>101577026
>>101577063
>overvoltage
>oxidation
does this shit affect 13th and 14th gen desktop i5s?

>>101578148
all 13/14th gen are defect by design, its only going to take longer for i5s to start being unstable. Sell your Intel trash now.

>>101578148
Nobody knows yet. The over voltage aspect is unlikely imo as it is seemingly tied to the absurd boost clocks and the i5 chips are clocked lower so they might be safe, or the degradation is on a scale where it is effectively a non-issue. Oxidation could be anything, we just don't know.

>>101578148
Every single 13 and 14 gen.

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Is this gonna be an issue or is the mobo 5000 ready?

>>101578231
would undervolting and disabling race to halt help? I vaguely remember that this setting causes voltage and clock spikes to finish execution faster so that the cpu can enter a lower power state and save energy

>>101578272
Depends on when it was manufactured.

>>101577580
Why the fuck do people still buy Gigabyte and Asus? They are the worst brands on the market along MSI and Zotac.

>>101578218
>>101578252
depressing, i should've gotten an ayyymd

>>101578272
you need another cpu to pop into it so you can flash the newest bios AFAIK, at least last time I saw a situation like this that's how it was resolved

>>101578287
In theory yes but again, reports of failing i5's are extremely low and could just fall into the normal failure rate.

>>101578289
>>101578296
Shit

Does AMD still do that loaner boot kit thing?

>>101578290
Been using gigabyte motherboards and graphic cards for last 17 years and never had an issue with anything.
The two asus products on the other hand........

is this a good am5 board
https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X670E%20Taichi/index.pl.asp

>>101578304
any board you buy now is going to have a newer bios on there
Zen 3 is what 3 years old now?

>>101576717
How does a company that has decades of experience in making CPUs and basically unlimited money fuck up this cosmically?

>>101578340
Jews

>>101578340
they wanna gauge how goyim react to this and then push it further next time

>>101578320
Yeah, it's ridiculously expensive though. I'm not sure it's worth double the price of other am5 boards.

>>101578272
those boards, the r2.0, came out 1 year after zen3

My monitor delivery is being delayed for a few days. Can I use my laptop as a monitor for my PC? I have no other monitor to use and my TV doesn't work. I only found guides to duplicate another screen on the laptop, not using it standalone.

>>101578340
>redesign the cache system in record time (gotta deal with spectre and meltdown yo)
>clock chips to the moon to beat out zen
>do about 5 minutes of testing because fuck it, the last design was good and we've used 90% of it
>YOLO
>what the fuck the chips are failing, how could AMD do this to us!?

>>101578320
>>101578358
Why not the B650E Taichi Lite ? It's half the price and the only differences the X670E has are:
- 1 extra USBC4.0
- 2x PCIE5.0x16 instead of 1x5.0 and 1x 4.0 (not like you need 2 since multi GPU is dead)
- A few more front and rear USB slots but the 650E already has a ton anyway
The Lite just has less rgbshit and I think it's also missing a tiny fan somewhere near the VRMs or on the NVME heatsink

It'll be the same issue for the new AM5 mobos announced recently, I don't think it's worth upgrading to those when the 650E Taichi basically has all the features.

>>101578416
RDP into it maybe

>>101578340
It's what happens when the marketing department drives your technical decisions
Cuck cores, muh GHz and pointless yearly refreshes are symptoms of this company wide deficiency

Intel shillbros I can't take the bullying anymore. I will commit seppuku and be at peace in AMD heaven.

>>101578465
Nevermind, I have an old monitor but it uses VGA. Do modern GPUs support that?

>>101578544
Not directly, you'll need some hdmi-vga adapter.

>>101578572
How much do those cost?

>>101578272
If you're buying new just get a newer one if not just update the BIOS?

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>>101576717
I need an adapter that looks or functions like either of these. Should I go for the cheapest I can find like chinesium, or are there good brands for them?

>>101578712
I could wait, it's for the USB slots at the top of the case. There's not enough for cables to connect without bending somewhat, so I'd rather get adapter that make the connection horizontal rather than vertical.

guys all my amd shader stutter went away when i updated my mobo bios. you should do the same. agesa is important as fuck ignore everyone else.

Unrelated, but I want to transfer files worth a few hundreds GBs between my old and new PC. Any open-source software to do that easily?

>>101578576
like 5 shekels

>>101578754
Nigger, just Ctrl+X then Ctrl+V.

>>101578754
windirstat. just drag and drop your files to a new drive.

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What is the cheapest build with an AMD 780M APU? Dedicated GPU not required.

>>101578775
>>101578784
I think you didn't understand my question. I want to do it online, I don't want to wait hours due to my old shitty HDD.

>>101578823
Then you don't want to transfer them, you want to copy them. It's not the same.

>>101578823
????
If you transfer files to a cloud service you're still limited by the read speed of your HDD.

>>101578695

I just use aliexpress for everything like this now. They work fine.

>>101578823
You can use the Share feature on Windows with File Explorer to do it very easily if both PCs have Wi-Fi access.
>I don't want to wait hours due to my old shitty HDD
There is literally nothing you can do about this.

>>101576717
2 weeks tops since ANY issue with the system is gonna be automatically attributed to le rusty cpu

>>101578792
6000MHz ram
budget AM5 board
750w gold

will arrow lake be fixed or do they have no clue what's going on yet

>>101578754
torrents are pretty good. but is it really that hard to just plug in the drive from the old pc to the new one?

>>101579049
Arrow lake is tsmc, hopefully they won't have to send 1.6V to win cpu z benchmark

>>101578850
Thanks.

>>101576717
what case is that?

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i can't decide between two prebuilts: a 12100 for $200 and a 5600g for $260

I have everything connected. I powered on, case fans light up and spin, CPU cooler fans light up and spin, the RAM lights up, and the GPU logo lights up. The motherboard is displaying two lights, a yellow and a red. Red is CPU issue, yellow is RAM issue. I have seen several people online who have had an issue with the same error lights, and for some they had to wait an hour for first boot until they could tweak the setting in the BIOS. Crucial website says sometimes it's up to 15 minutes. Do I just sit here for an hour to see if it POSTs before taking it apart to troubleshoot?

>>101579465
what gpus do they have?

>>101579476
it's training ram

>>101576717
>updated Q3 2024
wat

>>101579497
t-their iGPUs

>>101576981
10th/11th gen both fine wine

why exactly do you need a new CPU

>>101579540
>12100
better single core
worse multi core
worse integrated graphics
faster in most games with dedicated gpu
>5600g
better multi core
worse single core
better graphics
slower in most games with dedicated gpu

>>101579559
'cuz you have an intel 13th/14th gen and it is about 3 months away from resembling more like sand than a cpu.

>>101579549
I really wished we'd gotten tigerlake for 11th gen

>>101579559
intel is making environmentally friendly cpus now
they degrade into sand from 2-3 months of heavy use or within 1-2 years of regular use
INTEL WON

>gaming always been my favourite things to do since I was a child
>always gamed on console
>decided to finally build a pc this year which has always been a dream
>5 months pass
>play games less and less and now all of a sudden just don’t feel like playing games at all
What is wrong with me? It’s like as soon as I built the PC, a switch flipped and I just don’t feel like playing anything anymore. I just got back from a 10 day vacation, I switched my pc on and turned it off after 20 minutes of looking at my screensaver.

Look, how much VRAM is actually necessary for the next 5 years? All I know is 8GB is evidently not enough anymore. And what PCIE and how many lanes do I need?

>>101579653
I keep telling people benchmarking and building is more fun than actually playing games

>>101579656
At least 16gb, games are getting more bloated and pajeet coded, not less.

>>101579656
16gb to be safe. ironically, gen4 x8 is enough since gpus with larger vram don't have to go through the pcie bus as often

>>101579656
dont worry, consoles and low end pcs mean vram requirements arent gonna go up
pcie doesnt matter at all
12gb vram of 4070 super is gonna be fine

>>101579660
Actually, yes building the pc was like a 2 week ordeal of picking the parts, researching about compatibility, building the pc and the software side of things. It was a long process but incredibly fun. As soon as it was completed, the fun stopped. I was just tired

>>101579560
5600g is like 90% 1T, 130% MT, and 200% iGPU, compared to a 12100. so it's worth the $60 if you want that iGPU. you're paying 30% more to get a big jump there and a $1:1 increase in MT. the 1T suffers but not very much.

>>101579679
you're not tired yet. you still have to go through the optimization step. the right curve optimizer for each cpu core. the optimal v/f curve for your gpu. how low or high your soc voltage can go before your memory gives up.

then once you figured all that out you need to find a program to put it all to the test that you actually use on a daily basis. my recommendation is madvr.

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Should I? This is rare as fuck

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>>101579560
>>101579691
I just feel weird paying more money for a worse thread performance

>>101579800
look at the rest of the pc. what kind of power supply they have, the motherboard, ram, storage, case

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>>101577145
>>101577135
>>101577103
new AMJEET chips won't be that much better and most will not notice any difference. if zen4 is cheap in your area, buy it. zen4 is also matured enough to warrant a safe buy at this point.

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Is 128GB Ram worth it?

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>>101577596
No.
>>101577588
> take the gpu out and put it back in
Well. I'll try.
>>101577739
I've mentioned this exact thread. No solution there.
>>101577765
Different revisions.
>>101578290
> Why the fuck do people still buy Gigabyte and Asus?
It's just werks.
Aurus elite is one of the best motherboards for 7800x3d

>>101579882
If you need 128gb of ram you'd know and the cost would not matter.

>>101579882
not unless you're running a server

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How the fuck did this happen. I opened the box and my PSU is curved; and of course it had to tear the warrant sticker... I did manage to even it out by pushing it against the table but I'm now worried of using it.

>>101579882
96gb for single rank sticks is what I want

>>101579887
yeah wth
thats a huge revision from rev1.0

>>101579911
the fuck did you do

>>101579911
Send it back. NEVER use a suspect psu.

>>101579911
return fraud maybe? like some nigger took out the innards and swapped it with his old psu's and returned it after

>>101579948
>>101579950
How? It came with teared warranty sticker

>>101579963
warranty stickers aren't even legal
https://www.ifixit.com/News/74736/warranty-void-stickers-are-illegal-in-the-us-what-about-elsewhere

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>passively cooled 7900xtx
While okay it still needs fans blasting at it but still, asrock are madmen.

>>101580131
pretty sure that is for some server with big blower fans. no idea why a server would call for a 7900xtx though lol

>>101580147
render farms

>>101576981
I thought I went overkill with my 10900K when it came out. I am glad I went with it. It's only gotten worse since then. If intel doesn't get its shit together. I will probably go amd next time around.

>>101579911
psu is not supposed to open like that unless its missing screws. someone obviously tampered with it.

>>101580177
I had 12th/13th gen and was greatly disappointed. The user experience has gone downhill from my 9900k.
Desktop usage is laggy (common with these P+E cpus) and power draw is way up even under light loads which makes my room feel like a sauna while gaming. I suppose this is what multi-GPU gaming feels like since the 13900k pulls gpu amounts of power lol.
My current 7800x3d feels more of a successor to that skylake cpu than either of my 12th/13th gen cpus did

>>101580177
>>101580211
>buying anything Intel in the first place
Now you have a motherboard and RAM that can't be used for your next CPU. How does that feel, Intelcuck?

>>101580215
zen3 came out too late and zen2 was ccx cucked garbage
those >6 cored skylake based cpus were alright

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>>101580193
You might be onto something. This is the side that was tiled. The hole here don't have any screws so you might be right

>>101577242
FLYDIGI

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Day 477 of waiting for next-gen GPUs.

>>101577242
Gullikit King Kong just because hall effect and gyro aim/driving.

>>101580352
yep I would return that shit asap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYfBxmBfq7k


LEL

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>>101580452
>Hey guys Buildzoid here and today we're gonna be rambling about the Intel 14900k

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>>101576717
https://x.com/Buildzoid1/status/1816710497351123111

You're not using a problematic cpu, right?

Anyone have any experience with the cooler master nr200 cases. Haven't pulled the trigger on it yet, but I want to mount 3.5 HDDs, but I'm not sure if it's possible or advisable.

So did the i5 12600kf win?

>>101580503
>2 hours of cinebench and "intel, what the fuck are these voltages!?"

>Intel GPUs getting better
>Intel CPUs getting worse
Are they becoming the reverse-AMD? I want to have a machine with an AMD CPU and an Intel GPU for the lols.

>>101580732
TSMC saved Intel if anything, the same way it saved AMD.
I'm hoping for everyone in the West to have a hard dependency on TSMC so when it falls it falls hard kek

>AMD's most dogshit CPU (R5 7600) outperforms Intel's best of the best CPU (i9-14900K) in Photoshop
kek...?

>>101580893
intel already lost half a decade ago when zen 1 and zen 2 dropped
none of this is news

>>101580893
[x] doubt

>>101579549
10th gen was fine but 11th gen was for retards especially the i9

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>>101577485
Inadequate cooling or improper mounting pressure.

>>101580519
My undervolted 12700K passed OCCT's 12-hour CPU stress test yesterday.
The same test that fails problematic 13/14th gen CPUs within half a minute

>>101580893
are you just finding out that intel is no longer the best choice for anything?

>>101580352
>The mounting screw holes don't have any screws in them
gee, I wonder why
(in case you don't get it, those screw holes are there to be able to mount the PSU, and as such don't have any screws in them until you screw it into a case. I do agree with the consensus, however, that shit looks wack)

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>>101581081
>The same test that fails problematic 13/14th gen CPUs within half a minute
Dodgy 13700KF exposed in 16 seconds. Not mine.
OCCT's a top-class app for validating CPU & memory stability.

>>101576981
>>101579549
weird, my 13600 works just fine after undervolting. bit of a hassle but 1 hour of troubleshooting literally fixed everything

I really should test my 13700k. But I'll only do it AFTER the August patch. Then I'll probably run a long OCCT test overnight or something.

>>101581267
run cb r15 extreme and ycruncher 1B
it takes less than a minute to run both tests, not going to do significant damage to your chip

>>101581267
Don't run anything stressful without an undervolt.
Maybe a 0.05~0.07mV undervolt should protect it from overvolting, but stability's not guaranteed.
Some motherboards allow you to set a Vcore limit, I'd set that at 1.45V or so.

>>101581239
then don't update the bios

>>101581304
I already set my mobo settins to use Intel default power settings. It's stable and no crashes ever since I bought it. I don't really need to undervolt it.

can I use cpu thermal paste on gpus

>>101580131
I wonder how much power it can sustain in well ventilated case.
It's clearly designed for rack but as an experiment, too bad AyyMD doesn't allow for arbitrary power limits anymore.
Also it's using the melting connector.

>>101581595
Sure - there isn't anything that inherently makes paste only for cpus or gpus (or anything else really).

Intel's 13th & 14th gen is so bad that it's outright being avoided?!

>>101581619
I guess it depends on what sort of power limit asrock allow - if they go balls out assuming it will be kept cool by screaming server fans if they went with the sort of power limit the nitro+ from sapphire has that would be a 450w gpu which is some serious juice for a consumer facing die.

>>101581595
Yes you can just make sure it's not conducting electricity.
If you want long term solution get Honeywell PTM7950, it won't pump out as easily.

I'm super stuck

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N7FLKX

>update bios
>activate and update windows
>get gpu drivers
>debloat windows
Anything else I should do for a new PC before I move my data over and start using it? Should I do hardware tests? I have a 4070 ti super and a 7800x3d.

>>101579653
>>101579679
>tired
you realized that gaymes are nothing more than a effort simulator without any real gains, as a kid this is enough because nothing else is happening and the novelty and bing bang wahooos are enough
as adult, you now always have to compare the effort to benefit ratio of doing said thing, even if just done subconsciously, you realize this fact
in short, gaymes provide no long lasting benefit, no dopamine reward circuit as you realize this, there is nothing to be gained... it's over
unless you play games for money, it's the only way you can justify playing them
but, there is one last thing and that is taking a long as break for like a generation, coming back when some new gaymes release with a fully maxxed out system, nolifing a game for a while and being fully immersed in a new tech and seeing how far things have come during this period could be fun, maybe
also one more thing, new games (most) simply suck ass cock, try playing old ass games that you played ages ago and they might still just be better than everything else, or, this might just be boomer brain and the inability to adapt to new games/wanting to learn new things
that's about it

>>101581669
>overpriced ssd
lol
lmao even

>>101581621
it's not recommended to buy a product that is likely to fail within 2 years

>>101581682
Stress testing for 24 hours would be good.
This is my autism but I like running all fans max speed for a few hours to "break them in" and clean out the new PC smell.
Not sure why but all PCs I've ever built always have this weird burning plastic smell at the start and never again.

Why do new cpus have so many cores ?

I can choose old cpu with lets say
4x 3ghz efficient
6x 5ghz performance

or new with:
12x 2ghz efficient
12x 3ghz performance

this doesn't even makes sense on paper. It seems that i rather have few decent cores then a dozen shitty who release too much heat anyways. I know newer processors are better by why so ? Especially having lower clock speed. I just feel like i bought 32gb ram just because "to be safe" and the price wasn't that much different but i barely ever use the 1/5 of it at most.

>>101581731
>Why do new cpus have so many cores ?
The tl;dr is need for moar computing outstripped the ability to make each core massively better year-on-year so the only solution is to have more cores and lrn 2 parallel your code.

>>101581682
Do stress tests.
RAM: TestMem5 Extreme1 setting.
GPU: 2-3 runs of 3D Mark (free version is enough) and 4-6 hours of Heaven Benchmark.
CPU: Cinnebench r23 and OCCT CPU test. Run them 1-2 hours.
In this order. I say this as the bare minimum. Run them more times and longer to really test the stability of your PC.

Then start downloading useful programs. Have RGB, use OpenRGB to control it. Have multiple fans, then use FanControl to set up a speed curve.
After that I start adding my stuff back in.

>>101581731
Depends on the workload. low count but high performance is better for gaymin.
High CPU count but low performance is better for workstations and servers.
pick whichever you need.

>>101581769
Unigine heaven is a waste of time these days.

>>101581659
You can easily flash the BIOS to get high power limit.
I was just thinking how much heat it can dissipate without fan in vertical configuration. That card is very light just under 900g but it's using vapor chamber, the boost clocks on their website are the same as reference model.
In older Linux driver you could set 100W limit without a problem but that got "fixed".

>>101581731
Because Apple butt blasted the entire industry and now they're trying to catch up by forcing this E-core/P-core meme into x86 which it's not meant for, it needs to be ARM. x86 performance potential is higher if you're willing to add more watts but now you're just getting a retard version of ARM. The whole thing is a mess. The only hope is AMD's 3D V-Cache.

>>101581490
>Intel default power settings
It potentially overvolts the CPU AC/DC load line (1.1mOhm) to improve stability near maximum boost frequency.
You do you.

>>101581797
I use it for stability. I can let it loop and leave it running for 10 hours. I believe you can do it in 3D Mark but I think you need the paid version if you want to loop it.
3D Mark for stress test. Uningine Heaven for stability. Both are free.

>>101576717
Why is the 4070 super recommended as a 1080p card? Every benchmark shows it maxes out everything at 1440p 100fps or more

>>101581490
disable 1-2 p core boost algos or enjoy your 1.72v

>>101581871
Typo maybe. Should definitely be a 4060 instead. Or maybe the assumption is 1080p MAXXED out settings or even some RTX. A lot of games have retarded ass settings. I mean even a GTX 1080 can play 1080p games perfectly fine today.

how do i undervolt???
you people are scaring me

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>>101581769
For me it is 3dmark2001

>>101581807
P/E cores aren't a meme due to x86 in particular, it's more that using them effectively depends on software being able to schedule work correctly, and until recently heterogeneous CPUs were rare in the x86-software-world. The situation reminds me of when we started to see x86 NUMA deployments, where software that assumed any thread could be scheduled on any core would see worse performance.

The main issue with x86 is that the decoders are huge compared to other architectures for various reasons, one of which is the variable-length instructions. Variable-length instructions increase code density, which is why caching is a comparatively easier way to increase performance than adding more decoders.

>>101581893
You dont need to if you have an i5 or i7

>>101581871
1440p should be at MINIMUM 120 FPS. 144 average. If a 4070 super can't reach that then it's not really for 1440p gaming and more suited for max/ultra setting on 1080p.

>>101581871
some facts
>a 4090 plays wukong at 1080p50 max settings
>no true 1080p gpu exists right now
>5090 will be a 1080p60fps locked gpu for some modern games, for a while

>>101581893
cpu should boost at all core boosts speeds max, or it's over
bios

>>101581911
but i also have an i7 14700k.
i dont think i downloaded the bios yet either

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>finally buy gayming laptop
>Cpu and gpu reaches 80°C+ while playing 10 year old game
>jet engine fan noise
>keyboard too hot
>battery lasts 1 hour
why do these things even exist?

>>101581935
>gaymen laptop
i dont know what you expected. it's like buying manure and complaining it smells bad

What's a good budget upgrade for a 5600x?

>>101581595
you want very viscous thermal paste (example: mx-6). not the runny stuff (mx-4)

>>101581923
well if it has the new 0x125 microcode then download it and flash it asap
Buildzoid found that it massively reduced voltage for 1 core loads (1.51v to 1.45v on his 14900k)

>>101581935
oh and I forgot about
>needs to be plugged to get full performance

>>101578290
>Gigabyte
>Asus
>MSI
>Zotac
that's like the entire market, what are you suggesting? evga? they don't even exist anymore

>>101581960
Oh that's good that's what I had.

>>101581935
>>Cpu and gpu reaches 80°C+ while playing 10 year old game
temps are irrelevant, what is relevant is heat output and noise
>>jet engine fan noise
correct, small ass chassis and tiny spinning fans does this
>>keyboard too hot
bad build desu
>>battery lasts 1 hour
if you think you could do full blast without connected to an outlet for hours idk what to say man
>why do these things even exist?
for portability, desu I bought one because I was too lazy to build a pc last time during the mining chaos and needed a pc up and running asap
>>101581950
x3d

>>101581984
If you can get an FE, get an FE
AIB cards arguably aren't for people who just want reliability.

I know they're all bad but which is less bad when it comes to manufacturers? Thinking of going with an MSI build because of their simplistic designs.

Enlightenment is dropping this fucking hobby once and for all, so (You) won't ever be under Gigabyte or Asus BS

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>>101581950
5700x3d

>>101582059
MSI has some of the highest tier everything for decent prices, I love it.

>>101582147
Whats up with the 7800x3d???

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>buildzoid barely has any revenue on his close to 200k yt channel
>realize he makes 165k/y from patreon
did not know it was so lucrative to have 2 hour long autistic rambling sessions
it's over
he made it

>>101582175
>165k/y
he makes 15k/year
well deserved though since he covers niche topics for free that are only gatekept by conmen like FC

Is the noctua NH D15 worth it? I recently put a 7600x in my machine with an older single fan noctua cpu cooler and my cpu is sitting at 85-90c when I'm not doing anything. My computer gets choppy for about 30 sec then resets at random times, so I'm most likely having temp issues. Not sure if I should try new thermal paste first or just go straight for a new cooler. The fan on my current cooler is definitely on, but maybe the contact with the cpu is fucked? Would an AIO be the better option since it's hot in the room where the computer is?

>>101582175
>£977.3/month
huh?
I mean its good money for autistic rambling but he'll hardly be a millionaire from it. You can also hear from his ramblings he's terrible with money and broke as shit

>>101582215
>older single fan noctua cpu cooler and my cpu is sitting at 85-90c when I'm not doing anything
did you put thermal paste?

>>101582171
It's good

>>101582171
vcache is groundbreaking technology

>>101582175
He's poor as shit
He about broke down crying when one of his Ryzen CPUs died

Is 3DVcache good for anything besides gaming fps

>>101581698
Well how much should it cost jack

Does anyone know why when I overclock my GPU with either Nvidia's auto tuner or Afterburners OC scan, it seemingly reset after I shut my PC down for the night?
Restarting seems fine and the OC will remain.
I don't want to spend 30 minutes each day OC'ing my GPU.

>>101582262
No, it's poop and makes me get 40-45° idle temps.

>>101582280
they always reset that's why you have to save them as presets and have them apply automatically

>>101582305
I have a preset saved on Afterburner but maybe I'm doing something wrong.

are small monitors really not a thing anymore?
currently looking for a small 16inch monitor to replace my laptop
but all I can find are overpriced "portable" monitors

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>>101582285
>40-45 idle temps are bad
W-What's a good idle temp then???

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>>101582305

>>101582210
woops, I was too focused on seething I thought I was reading a different currency, nvm he didn't make it
>>101582225
I'm so used to ecelebs making 500k a year I did not compute what I was reading
>>101582246
I was just thinking why he was begging so hard for mobos and gpus and how this did not make sense

>>101582322
21.5" will be the smallest you can find and you can find those in a bin for free outside a school or office

>>101582329
People freak out about temps for whatever reason.

>>101582273
im going to assume something about you.
you're here because you want to play games on your pc. if you were building something for a workstation then you wouldn't be here in the first place and go to the proper places to ask.
now, why do you need a 4tb ssd? don't tell me you're going to put your OS AND all your random junk in one drive? that's just retarded. get a small but fast OS drive that's only 512GB or even 256GB and get a reasonably priced SSD for your other shit. Did you know NVMe and SATA SSDs only have a 5-10% speed difference. Get a SATA SSD like Crucial BX500 or one of the cheaper Teamgroup SSDs.
you do NOT need 4TB unless you actually know what you're using it for

>>101582317
tick the "apply on boot" box

>>101582262
some srs bsns server workloads

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>>101582479
where

>>101582546
Next to the 1 2 3 4 5 profile buttons in the main window

>>101582329
That idle temp is fine for CPUs with 3DVCache CCDs.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/technologies/3d-v-cache.html

Most of the people in this thread are going to be upgrading their systems before their CPUs experience any temperature-related degradation.

>>101582456
>now, why do you need a 4tb ssd? don't tell me you're going to put your OS AND all your random junk in one drive? that's just retarded. get a small but fast OS drive that's only 512GB or even 256GB and get a reasonably priced SSD for your other shit. Did you know NVMe and SATA SSDs only have a 5-10% speed difference. Get a SATA SSD like Crucial BX500 or one of the cheaper Teamgroup SSDs.
>you do NOT need 4TB unless you actually know what you're using it for
absolute state of pcbg
a singular large 4TB nvme > all that garbage
it's not even expensive

>>101582285
>>101582329
idle temps have never mattered