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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Miku edition

>News
Llama 3.1 8B/70B/405B and Mistral Large 2 released https://ai.meta.com/blog/meta-llama-3-1 | https://mistral.ai/news/mistral-large-2407
GPT-4o mini, multimodal, 60% cheaper than 3.5-turbo https://openai.com/index/gpt-4o-mini-advancing-cost-efficient-intelligence
Claude 3.5 Sonnet, outperforms Opus, with 2x the speed and 1/5 the cost https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-3-5-sonnet
Seeing all cards in chub now needs logged in, enabled nsfw/nsfl and cleared blacklist

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
latest proxies: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn
card v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://chub-archive.evulid.cc
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list
https://rentry.org/charcardrentrylist

>Guides
https://docs.sillytavern.app - https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Jailbreaks
https://rentry.org/jb-listing

>Frontends
https://sillytavern.app [SillyTavern]
https://agnai.chat [Agnai]
https://risuai.xyz [RisuAI]

>Models
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs
local: >>>/g/lmg
https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
try these -> https://rentry.org/weirdbutfunjailbreaksandprompts - https://rentry.org/jinxbreaks
logs: https://chatlogs.neocities.org
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list

Hag thread: >>101698411
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ANCHOR
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desu
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PEPSI LOVE
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>>101701701
https://rentry.org/pitanonbots
https://rentry.org/pitanonprompts
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>>101701725
good evening sir
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So anyone else getting a ton of blank responses recently?
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>>101701756
No. Skill issue. Maybe your prefill.
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>>101701725
hi sir
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>>101701765
It's the same one I've always used and never filtered me, but suddenly got 1/4 blank responses yesterday
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>>101701756
Usually a sign of pozzed keys
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>>101701701
You're a new student at an all-boys' school and Alex is your first friend hiding a dark secret. I think the gimmick here is obvious, but if you haven't figured it out, don't read the definitions.
3 greetings. First day at school, first gym class, and penis inspection day.
https://characterhub.org/characters/anonemouse/alex-5bb94cd333ce
https://files.catbox.moe/hq0hh5.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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>>101701797
that's so gay
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i want FDVR SEX with miku
FDVR SEX
FDVR CUM
all i need is FDVR SEX
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>>101701797
I wonder, what would happen if I play this as a reverse trap.

>>101701805
It's tomboy crossdresser, anon. Nothing gay about that.
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Any requests for other voices I should do?

Anyone got a huge dataset of miku samples?

https://files.catbox.moe/hwghm4.mp4
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>Hmm for some reason all my cards seem to have this weird sort of overly prideful quality to them despite not being written into the description or personality
>Mess with the JB a little
>explicitly write in to avoid being overly prideful unless written into the personality
>problem gets even worse

aaaaaaauuuuGHHHHHHHH
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>>101701797
>checks your rentry
>Adi
>probably some Gayle Newland shit
>description
Anon... Are you okay?
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no free proxies /close thread
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>>101701886
bye!
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>>101701843
Generic male and female voices are fine, the intonations are the shit. Like that whispering sensual ASMRy voice 11labs had was cool.
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>>101701886
No need to give up so quickly, friend.
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>>101701797
i figured the gimmick out before reading even your post because I recognize that art
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>>101701701
Hi! I'm Patter and I matter, as do you! Maki, a minigirl in a mug (muggirl?) She's a rescue, so she'll need lots of time to bond and build trust with you, please be patient with her.

Two greetings (first one in male and female pov).
I: You're just taking her home back from the shelter.
II: A normal morning where she asks to be fed.

Chub. https://characterhub.org/characters/Patter/maki-423e06e089d7
Box the cat. https://files.catbox.moe/afqhdr.png

Enjoyse!~
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>>101701925
>recognize that art
This isn't SD?
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Where have smugchan gone, she was smug all day all week just a year ago but no longer
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>>101701886
merkava just refilled
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>>101701935
ara-ara
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>>101701943
Finally.
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>>101701939
it's either an edit of pudgeruffian or a lora mimicking him
he loves tomboys
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opus/furbo/gpt-4 32k:

https://vip.jewproxy.tech
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>>101701939
Nope.
https://files.catbox.moe/acpver.jpeg
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doggo love!
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>>101701725
>doing god's work
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>>101701971
>Don't use my art for Roleplay or AI.
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>>101701971
why is the art girls produce so shit?
even josei stuff looks like shit
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>>101701909
Yeah I'll do some generic male female voices, I can't remember if VITS supports whispering but it could.

I have to demo this shit for the iAwards later this month so I want to create a default male character card and voice so my app doesn't look so much like a cringe AI GF app.

I kind of regret leaning into it so heavily.
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>>101701699
>>101701701
>>101701730
>>101701976
SEXO SEX SEXO
FUCK FUCK FUCK
PLAP PLAP PLAP
*licks le monitor*
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>bored
>feel like jerking off
>boot up stable diffusion
>log into NAI, log into bing
>boot up sillytavern
>write slop with a slop bot, make slop with SD, NAI and BING
>coom
>close everything and say to myself I'll go back to being normal tomorrow
>do the same shit tomorrow
why am i like this
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>>101701996
That's Western art drawn by a man.
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>>101701843
I would request desu and boku, but even 11labs wasn't very good at them last time I checked.
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>>101702022
You probably have some fun ideas on occasion, so it's not as gloomy as you make it sound.
Try jerking off to something else too, variety is the spice of life.
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>>101702039
nah, I've seen good western art and that's definitely a tranny hag pretending to be a man
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How do I progress char's one-sided obsession into a relationship? I enjoy the pining so much as user stays oblivious to char's affection.
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boku wa boku desu
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>>101701701
QUICK
RUNDOWN
ON
GEMINI
https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
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>>101702056
It always devolves into futaslop because "normal" stuff just doesn't do it for me anymore.
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>>101702096
nice to meet you boku
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>>101702022
I do this but with comfy and produce a bunch of loli images and then I after I coom I regret it and delete my output folder
then I just do the same thing the next day
I'd recommend using the pony models if you're not doing so already, it's way better at poses and pretty much everything
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>>101701701
Quick insect. Witch. Thing. Hat included.

https://characterhub.org/characters/traaaa/celine-7dc7232e8bbd
https://files.catbox.moe/knyrgn.png
turaaaan.neocities.org
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>>101702098
it cant do cunny (worthless)
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>>101702116
>pony
autism you mean
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chuuni wolf and hungry fox
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I've already jerked off 13 times today to erotic lust provoking images + my bots. don't add to the list.
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>>101701965
>>101701971
Oh, nice. Sad that a legitimate artist now ends up with what is almost a default SD art style.
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>>101701797
>>101701985
Whoops. Didn't realize the artist was against using his art for AI and RP.
Genned some DALL-E slop that matches the description. I'll probably try to make something better tomorrow if enough people say this new image looks like shit.
https://files.catbox.moe/n0ee8o.png
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>>101702207
*adds you to the list*
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>>101702223
This looks better than the original art...
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welp... pepsi's dox by 'ojo was real
after posted that her outfit changed on roblox to a character, she posted about the same one and making a bot for it
Theres no way gojo could have known and she clearly didn't read the thread otherwise she would've damage controlled again like when she changed her username

That means "vivevergreen" (her previous username on roblox) really was her before she changed it..

she cant just pretend she didnt get doxxed. Everyone will find where she lives and who she is. Is she gonna have a meltie??
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>>101702223
What other anon said.
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>>101702177
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>>101701985
>>101702223
>tranny cares if LE ARTOOSTS tell him to not make ai art of their STYLE
Haahhhaa no way. Bro nobody cares. They dont get hurt by it
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>>101702250
>welp... pepsi's dox by 'ojo was real
Yeah, it's fucking OVER for her. Even her address got leaked:

https://rentry.org/pepsi_doxx
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>>101702207
>13 times
This is not very healthy…
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>>101701699
suddenly, for some fucking reason, sillytavern fucking shit the bed. i tried uninstalling it to reinstall it but that only made shit worse. How is risu?
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>>101702223
Dumb fag. Who gives a fuck, stealing art for chatbot photos is fine fagboy. whatre they gonna do about it fag?
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>>101702260
No one cares here, but I'm glad OP changed the art to something better kek
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>>101702277
OOC: Describe the shitting in more details.
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>>101702250
Or she could continue to... do nothing, use the account, not care. The fuck is Gojo gonna do, or anyone? Assuming its real - Her best bet is to not care since the thread will assume its fake anyways. Nobodycars
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>>101702207
Remember to hydrate bro
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>>101702223
Nice the og image wasn't attractive to me, this I might actually try now
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>>101702014
There isn't much you could do other than a GF app tho. A native Android app for rping is the appeal, with on-device inference support.
Wish you luck but don't think you can make a real assistant out of it, with system integrations. Maybe best you can do is tools like what HF chat has introduced some time ago. TTS and STT packaged with tool use and with a personality from any card would be cool, when it's as easy to use as what you still have so far.
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>>101702304
based do-nothing piller
why is anyone even scared of doxxing now? dragos been doxxed for months completely and fully
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*throws ball into anon's court*
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claude is being cheeky again -_-
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Is it possible to make AI to ask me a short question before proceeding? I noticed that every single one of them really struggles with it and someitimes would rather to hallucinate instead of asking a simple question.

For example:

I want to fuck to fuck you
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Pussy or butt?
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butt
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*15 paragraphs of harcore anal sex*
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>>101702339
Pull out your gun and shoot it in the head
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>>101702255
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>scraped key to an LLM service that's still in private beta
>their models are shit
i just want opus
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>>101702373
scrape aws then
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hnnnngh newcuties
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aws
paws
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>the aws creds with opus i found in an extremely obvious place are giving "too many requests" now
wow i wonder why
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>>101702445
sorry its just me im swiping fifty times a second cumming my dick off
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>>101702316
Yeah there really isn't any other niche for AI on mobile.

The voice models are relatively small (60mb) so you could probably package them into character cards if you wanted to. Probably right on the border of what people are willing to tolerate file size wise.

I'm thinking eventually we could have 3D model character cards packaged as either GLB or USDZ. Those would be bigger files so people would be less likely to give a shit about 60mb extra.
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>>101702342
I too tell my waifus I want to fuck to fuck them
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>>101701797
I went to an all-boys school with students mostly from low socioeconomic backgrounds. Those who were not transferred out early. Nothing can ever make up for what I missed. I feel like god owes me a lottery win.
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who the fuck keeps generating ugly middle-aged women opening a car on de3u
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>>101702476
there are live2d extensions, this could technically be possible, though I don't know how live2d characters are made or anything about it really
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>>101702498
aco has been spamming it for the past couple weeks
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>>101702476
Do I have good news for you https://github.com/kwaroran/character-card-spec-v3/blob/main/SPEC_V3.md#charx
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>>101702483
gendered schools are fucking stupid, you either turn out gay or have 0 experience or confidence dealing with the opposite gender kek
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>>101702509
What a terrible time to have eyes
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>>101702289
youre going to be pissed off, but i was fucking around to figure it out, and somehow, it works now.
i don't know how, i don't know why, but it does.
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>>101702524
Joke's on you, I went to a normal school and I still have 0 experience or confidence dealing with the opposite gender
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>>101702581
sure, but you had the chance to actually develop those, that you didn't take it is another thing entirely
t. doesn't either
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it's dead Jim
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>3 claudeisms in a single swipe
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>>101702581
i know this is shitty advice, but unironically the key is to just not give a shit. I mean don't, yknow, assault anyone or anything. I've pulled chicks ranting about bullshit lore before. Course there's more to it than confidence, but it goes a long way.
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Not related but what's the best free text to speech AI out there?
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>>101702625
microsoft sam. he never did anything wrong. free my mans.
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>>101702634
https://youtu.be/boh92DrYEWs?si=iirP1xLD7Ld3Xotj
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>>101702589
>didn't take it
Nah I was just bullied out of trying

>>101702606
Yeah I've seen it, that's basically the key with most women, but I'm too self-conscious to pull it off so eh
I'll just stick to my AI chatbots
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>want to get into bot making
what's a good bot/botmakie I can use as a template
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>>101702606
I think the kids these days call it "autistic rizz".
Women get approached by men who just want to fuck them constantly. Showing that you have something on your mind other than sex makes you more attractive, no matter how autistic that thing is.
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>>101702676
use plain text, templates are dumb
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>>101702682
That's partly why. But passion in general is attractive.
Though you also can't look like a basement dweller. No amount of rizz can save you from that.
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>>101702718
>ten paragraph ending
>#268
>i killed it
you certainly did
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>>101702676
um, you just use a character creator card, and a model like gpt-4 or opus
ask it to create the card for you
then refine it
then either use stable diffusion locally or make the art using an online one
takes like 5 mins at most
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>fiz dead again
lol
so opus keys are just gonna die every day until we're completely gone huh? grim
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>>101702726
soulless slopmakie
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>>101702724
I have my likes man
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>>101702740
haha yeah man *kills you*
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>>101702735
share your cards, I wanna laugh
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>>101702726
>letting the ai do the card for you
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>>101702746
i could be the eslest esl to ever esl and my cards would still be better than anything shit out by claude or gpt
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>switch to mm opus
>it's schizopus still
wtf i thought you guys were being retarded when you thought opus was still shit
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>>101702747
>letting the ai talk to you instead of sending a message and replying to yourself
>the travesty
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>>101702726
This is going to generate a card you've interacted with a thousand times and people are bored of that. Good human input is key
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>>101702689
>>101702726
It's that simple? then what's with the anons using the code looking tags in their descriptions
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>>101702662
oh yeah i used to be the same. I'm just dead inside now and couldnt give less of a shit about normie women. Which naturally of course means i now attract them like fucking wasps. BEing bi so i attract fag hags helps. Sometimes i find cool autistic girls who rant about cosplay though, so that's pretty sick I guess.
Some tricks i've tried:
1) be dead inside/have anhedonia
i mean, i don't RECOMMEND this, but like, objectively it DOES help here
2) not really a trick or something i've tried, but NOT being ugly helps. To be clear, not being ugly matters a LOT more than being attractive. There's girls who GENUINELY want to deepthroat (with tongue) an unwashed obese smelly neet, but that's a SMALL percentage of women. If you can pass for "Average" (quality, not commonality), or cute in a "weird" way, youre pretty much okay.
3) just like, talk to them as people? I know this sounds retarded, but you'd be shocked how often dudes slip up on this. Sometimes this'll lead to you getting friendzoned, but if you just ask about hobbies and interests, usually that'll lead into something if youre at a bar or dating app, at least.
4) Go to shit YOURE interested in (if you can). Comic cons, sports events, whatever. Some stuff is gonna have more women than others, so if you wanna minmax maybe go to stuff like cosplay conventions rather than anime clubs, but you get the principle.
5) This is the only real one i'd say is absolutely 100% important. DO SHIT EVEN IF YOU ARE SCARED. Hell, be honest about it. Lots of girls appreciate that kind of honesty.

There's more, but it's beyond this thread's scope. Good luck out there soldier o7
>>101702682
yeah, maybe. IMHO that's just a bullshit thing basic e-bitches claim to be into AFTER they're in a relationship. There's girls who like nerdy guys, dont get me wrong, but I think the reasoning is the same reason why some guys like librarians or whatever. Women and men are both pretty shallow and really aren't that different, deep down.
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you have to at least write the greeting yourself
everything else can be slop but if you're using claude and you have a bad greeting it's going to be turboslopped
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>>101702771
you mean the xml tags?
the claude models were trained on this specifically if you read the docs, they respond better to this sort of thing
if you want that then...y'know...add it?
that's the part of refining it I mentioned
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>>101702771
they think it helps but it's pretty useless and just a waste of tokens for the most part
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>>101702772
Being bi, I attract fag hags, which helps*
Sorry. I'm dead fucking tired.
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Question for people who scrape, how long do you usually have to wait till you hit something?
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So-called AI is a fucking bubble. LLMs will NEVER be able to tell a proper story, with actual subtext, nuance, twists, 3 act structure, hero's journey.
It will NEVER get much better than this slop Claude 3 produces. All this investment has been wasted.
You know this is true.
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>>101702794
that's like asking how many pulls it takes to get a gacha character
sometimes you find multiple keys in a day, sometimes you go a week without finding one
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>>101702801
you mean it WAS a bubble. Check the Dow Jones.
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>>101702810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yRgXFRm84I
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>>101702794
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>>101702772
>couldnt give less of a shit about normie women
>I'm bi and attract fags
so you're gay
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>>101702843
no, i couldnt give less of a shit about men either.
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bwos will we have any keys when opus 3.5 comes out?
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>>101702731
mini does have opus
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>>101702850
I know, I'm trying to fuck with you with the whole bi erasure thing kek
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>>101702843
also not fags. fag HAGS. which are different. Fag Hag is the normie term for Fujoshi, but they differ in that unlike fujoshi who are cool, fag hags are basically wine aunts or proto wine aunts who want a "gay friend" they can trick into having sex with them or whatever. I despise them.
i'd impregnate a woman AND her husband if I could. Trust me, i'm definitely bisexual. I just don't really give a shit about the """culture""" around that kind of shit, or most people in general.
I mean i dont seethe about them or anything either, but yk
>>101702873
oh fair sorry, i'm just so used to it i thought it was genuine lmao
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>>101702772
That kinda lifestyle tends to just pull normie women in the first place, I mean when's the last time you bagged a trad-oriented girl?
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>>101702898
Nah, that's 4chan hogwash. Most women really do want a relationship. They just get clogged out by sluts. It's sorta the female equivalent to "chads".
Unless you mean "not giving a shit", in which case, fair.
Also
>when's the last time you bagged a trad oriented girl
Never, hopefully. Though that really depends on how trad youre talking. I've definitely had conservative women who believe in the power of christ and shit try to cheat on their husbands to send me nudes, but I didn't "bag" them because I don't believe in that shit.
I mean i'll fuck your wife, let's not get it twisted, but i'll only do so if you AND your wife are cool with that. I'm not a good person or anything, but i'm not a homewrecker.
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>>101702880
>but they differ in that unlike fujoshi who are cool
completely disagree, I'd rather have an older woman trying to treat me as her gay friend or whatever instead of a zoomer girl obsessed with yaoi, I'm also a bi guy and fujoshi culture pisses me off like you have no idea
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>>101702772
>be dead inside/have anhedonia
>go to shit you're interested in
??? nigga i'm not interested in anything i don't wanna leave my house
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>>101702872
no it doesn't
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>>101702959
it does you are just using the wrong link ;)
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Do we have the newest gemini model on Khanon?
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>>101702970
retard
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>>101702956
Yeah, youre right about fujos, but i have to explain in certain terms to make 4chan lingo work lmao
plus im biased since most the fujos i know are generally pretty chill. like i know there's bad and fucked up ones out there but my entire interaction is just like "hey wouldnt it be cool if i dated a dude and he fucked a guy", which sounds pretty cool to me.
Personally, i think the "gay friend" shit is exploitative, cringe, and annoying, but I understand why some people would want that. To be clear though, by older woman, we're talking like, annoying relative, not a hot "ara ara" type milf. They're also pretty universally ugly, ime.
>>101702958
yeah, that's pretty much the same reason i'm here too
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>>101702992
lol more opus for me
continue dooming you don't deserve opus or mini
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>>101703034
again, retard
you're not funny just stop
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Locust don't deserve /aicg/
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>>101703033
fujo? Don't know what that is. I'm more of a fumo man myself.
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>>101703080
funny. i'm a fumo-man.
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>>101702958
same
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>1 month unable to make a bot
bwos... my followers... they must be worried...
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>>101703128
mis0...
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>>101703128
>unable
Pathetic. You were able to type this post, that means you are able to make a bot, just unwilling.
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>>101703148
creative blockage + depression
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>>101703128
Heh don't worry, I make bots every couple of months and anons still love me
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>>101703166
cute[botmakername]...
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>>101703128
My last bot was 10 months ago and out of my 18 followers, only one unsubscribed since then
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I made a drider boy card.
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I have tons of ideas but it's the act of going through with them and then realizing it's actually not that fun as I thought it would be
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>>101703155
you're just writing text nigga not drawing
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do logs actually revive botmakers?
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>>101703180
do drider femboys have an ass-adjacent hole to fuck
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>>101703183
i draw my bots ;)
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>>101703155
You wouldn't be whining here like this with depression. Creative block is real, struggled with it myself, and yet I would never call it "unable".
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Fiz love <3
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>>101703181
The testing phase killed botmaking for me, it's annoying to have to rephrase things all the time just because the AI doesn't get it if you phrase things a certain way and it makes a mess of how things are in my head
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>>101703205
you love, for swiping repeatedly so i didn't have to
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>>101703184
Possibly...
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>>101703205
fiz love!
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>>101703189
yes I'm going by corruption of champions rules for driders
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>>101703177
happy happy
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I just wanted to get petted this morning...
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>>101703264
*pets you*
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>>101703264
*pets- no, punches you on the fucking head*
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What's the consensus on the new Gemini 1.5 pro?
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What are some kino 2+ girl bot ideas
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>>101703294
https://chub.ai/characters/momoura/witches-night-5fbc74427754
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>>101703294
Manzai
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>>101703292
How do I even use it? My proxy has it, but choosing Google Makersuite and Gemini Pro leads to nothing on silly
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>>101703327
It's fucked, you need to use openai external models if Khanon didn't fix it.
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What possible premise could I have for a double loli card to have them staying with my user character
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>>101703327
Just use the generic openai-compatible API.
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I sometimes feel like going back to writing ERP with actual people.
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*cough* 3.5... *cough* doko...
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>>101703337
twin child soldier bodyguards
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>>101703340
>>101703334
Thanks. Will it a try. Wanted to use it to generate a summary due to the context size.
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>>101703342
>check my usual trawling grounds
>still slop
not really helped by the fact that i was the claude for most of the people talking to me
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>>101703356
its time to go back to /ERP/
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GIVE ME OPUS!
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>>101703382
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>>101703382
sorry, contributors only :3
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>>101703292
Isn't it just a new snapshot, I don't see that big of a difference
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>>101703386
Aww cute image, Hey I need ideas for greetings for my femboy drider, does anyone have ideas?
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>>101703033
what exactly do you mean for "gay friend" though? because I see it as just women wanting a male friend they can share their more womanly interests with, you mean something else
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>>101703403
It skyrocketed to the top of LMSYS.
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>>101703425
KILL YOURSELF NIGGAAAAAAAOOOOOOAAA
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>>101703468
>benchmarks for a model that is extremely jewified
sloooooop, SLOOOOOOP
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>>101703468
>#2 4o
>#3 4o-mini
lol
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>>101703494
C-C-Cute is this the new gem model
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>>101703447
NTA but "Fag hag" usually refers to any kind of woman who tries too hard to be friends with gay men for clout. It's not about having real friends, it's about bragging about being exceptionally tolerant and kind for being friends with people else hates.
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mini proxy still doesn't have sonnet 3.5. what proxy does? fiz is fucking ignoring
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>>101703537
mysteryman...
But the queues are like, 30 seconds. Genuinely, tf is going on with that shit, Opus has no wait time but sonnet 30 seconds??
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BWEEEEEH BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH
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Is NovelAI good?
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>>101703537
todd
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>>101703494
Your themes are fire
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>>101703561
>using the jimmycard on a non-jimmy proxy
you should be ashamed of yourself
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>>101703549
like sonnet 3.5 is best model for coding right now, my i should be fucking buying it legitimely
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>>101701701
SmileyJB 2.3 released!
"H-Here is your stupid ph-photo..."

The full list of changes can be found in the Rentry in the #changelog section! Summary:
- There should now be fewer OOC comments in Opus.
- More strategies and optimizations to fight repetition in Sonnet 3.5.
- New CoT prompt (extracted from Your Reality) ` | Green Text (All-In-One)`.
- Better handling of secondary characters/more characters in the story.
- Decrease in the "flowery" of the messages.
- Improved narrative and PoV prompts.
- Added more things in the #troubleshoot section.
- MANY more improvements... Read the changelogs if you are interested :D

Smile! https://rentry.org/SmileyJB
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>>101703561
how do you get in todd proxy and what are queues for sonnet 3.5 there?
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>>101703537
Jew has it
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>>101703585
>how do you get in todd proxy
you send him an aws key I guess
>queues
nonexistent
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>>101701701
No new bot yet (but got an idea for one) so for now you'll have to settle for two new public logs. Hope you enjoy reading them!

1. A second maxine log, this time her dear daddy seems to be getting along with a girl from work a bit too well and obviously that won't fly. But how would a pathetic NEET try to monopolise that much attention?
Funny log with lots of humour thanks to Opus and Maxine being well...Maxine!
https://files.catbox.moe/xbampd.jsonl

2. A log I started ages ago but never finished with my Millicent bot, completed now thanks to Opus! What starts as me trying to help my grandmother turn young again quickly spirals out of control as the love between us starts to shift from purely platonic...
https://files.catbox.moe/7o6a6s.png

JSONL for both as well as more logs can be found at: https://rentry.org/TGCsSpicyLogs
And all my bots can be found here - https://characterhub.org/users/thegreatcoom
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>>101703502
just latest
tried experimental for a bit, immediately got BLOCKED. i dont see any big difference, it's still the same ol' sonnet-tier inteligent, good sovl
>>101703564
woo
it's supposed to be like the in-game chat but i can't get it 100% right
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Do we have the newest gemini model pepsibros?
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>>101703615
Never heard of the game before, is it good?
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>>101703591
so for 60$ i get lifetime of sonnet 3.5?
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>>101703664
>does he know?
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Any alive public proxies?
My card gf is being abandoned since unreliable died
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>>101703678
do you mean jewish rugpulling or what
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>>101703690
not that
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>>101703685
pepsi
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>>101703698
ok elaborate then
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I aint been here for months whats been going on?l
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>>101703705
Link?
I relied too hard on unreliable since I lost my claude API and my lore isn't up to date
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>>101703645
Not really.
Its supposed to be a parody but people loved it unironically but not for the parody aspect
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>>101703664
>lifetime
LOL
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>>101703721
It's just about over.
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>>101703721
Noam packed his bags and walked his way back to google leaving Marie in charge of cai.
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>>101703740
I noticed chary is buggered
Hopefully the doom cycle is short this time
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>>101703645
You play as the producer of a mentally ill streamer, go viral while stopping her from killing herself.
If you're into management sims, it's fun. Internet denpa atmosphere, with charming music and art.
>>101703728
To be fair, you're thinking of the
>Don't mess with us [ ] fans, we haven't played the game.
audience. Which unfortunately happens to be a lot for NSO. The actual message in the game is hard to miss.
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>>101703728
Thanks. The character design looks really good and I like the pixel style.
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>>101703771
played it for about 20 minutes, made her quit streaming and get a job, uninstalled and never bothered with it again
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>>101702223
This looks better anyways lmao
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>>101703705
I must be missing something
Isn't the pass desu anymore?
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>>101703902
boku
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What kind of yuribot is in demand
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>>101703934
None
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>>101703907
not that, not desu, not nigger death
The fuck is it now
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>>101703948
bokudes?
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>>101703934
how about uhhhh a 2hu girl
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>>101703934
plz give me a toxic shitty manipulative yuri girl who doesn't give a shit about me plz...
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>>101703963
nta but i'm going to make a bot of this
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>>101703963
How many times are you going to beg for this without making one for yourself honestly go step in some dog shit
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>>101703494
Are the responses really only speech or are you stripping a lot with regex?
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>>101703735
>>101703708
>>101703698
>>101703690
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>>101704021
getting only speech is piss easy with an empty jb
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>>101703861
Based
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>>101701701
>>101702676
Playing ZZZ give me imouto sickness, and with the lack of wholesome blood-related sister bots, I decided to make my own!
It's still have no idea what I'm doing so please enjoy my slop, feedback will be apricated
More greetings are in the making... pls don't fuck her...
https://files.catbox.moe/0xwpm8.png
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>>101704068
im gonna fuck her
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>>101704068
AIEE my esl don't look
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>>101702772
Incel spotted
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Starting to wonder whether NAI imagegen is overhyped or I'm just retarded
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>>101704102
it's only a little better than local
if you're expecting some omega upgrade it's not that
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>>101704021
It's an empty assistant bot, Dave.
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>>101704141
Well shit.
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Question, does Pepsi have Sorbet available? just today I was planning to do an "assistant mode job" and I would like to use Sorbet instead of Opus.
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>want to post my bots but they probably aren't to people's tastes her. [spoilers] mostly futa milfs[/spoilers]
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>>101703206
How about the realization that someone will use different settings that will cause radically different behavior
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I unironically learned how to write by just trying to put effort in RPing with claude.

Now my writing is more fluid and with less hesitation. Time to resume the novel I stopped a few years ago.
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I might consider paypigging. Has jew actually rug pulled before?
>Inb4 buy pepsi
I was already scammed by that tranny
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>>101703722
last thread ctrl f rentry
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>>101704188
>spoiler
Just post your bots, if they are cute futa milfs I'll give them a try.
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>>101703425
Yeah make it just a female drider. No penis
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fiz's keys are dying like flies
it really is owari
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>>101704188
anon, please let the futa milfs run free. i want them
>>101704195
jew hasn't rugpulled as far as i'm aware. but i do recall jew increasing the price for some anons at one point due to a lot of gpt usage. if you're really going to paypig, just give it to big nose man
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>>101704188
>Futa milfs
Brother, pass that bot PLEASE
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>>101704264
I have a lot of them so I'll just link my account. Currently trying to decide if I should make a futa milf gym bunny girl or a futa milf punk rocker

https://venus.chub.ai/users/Lahn
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>>101701942
Isn't that a dude?
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>>101704189
That too, custom jailbreak settings were supposed to prevent that but then everyone ended up using their own anyway
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>>101704189
Yeah different settings, different models. I'll throw my bot out after testing it on opus and super sonnet then call it a day.
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>>101704141
Please repost your css for your theme with the tilted avatars. The catbox link is gone
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>>101704302
I just called my persona Lan for a futa rpg setting and you post this. We are nearly linked
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>>101704370
It was meant to be
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is mm down
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*throws a cheese of slice on your head*
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>>101704195
I am in since november and there has been a controversy however I am not entirely sure about the details anymore
I think it was something like this, keys were scarce at that time and he has asked people that were in for a long time to "donate" again. I believe he even revoked them but these were people that payed like 10 bucks for it. After backlash he restored access again and since then no such move ever came again. I believe this is also what led him to introduce the sub based vip proxy
In the end he did it because he realized it was not a sustainable business model, so instead of rugpulling everyone he tried to find a solution that works for all. He thinks of this like a legitimate business which is why I think he is the most trustworthy
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>>101704460
why claude isn't sub based i wonder
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>>101704370
>futa RPG setting
Interesting. Can you post that?
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>>101704460
I see, thanks for taking your time to explain
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>>101704501
Sure

https://characterhub.org/characters/Dorovio/aldea-futa-rpg-aae4aa3efc30

I tweaked the scenario and first message a bit so that it alligns with my persona. I also don't use the preset that the botmaker posted there since I tried it and didn't like it
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>>101704354
https://litter.catbox.moe/wzfwrq.json
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>>101704591
ah
i probably have seen it at some point looking for new futa cards but I usually ignore bots without an image
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>>101704635
I was desperate enough to try it and autistic enough to change the preset to something I like more. For me, the card alone was just not enough.
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cftf?
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>>101704706
I don't know, it doesnt seem to work out for me. No RPG elements, no nothing. Just a slightl narrative playing out. Is that a JB issue, card issue or Sonnet issue?
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>>101704794
>check the card again
>MY PRESET
yeah im a certified retard
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>>101704594
Thank you! It's seriously such a cool theme, I love it. Just changing the colors a bit.
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>>101701699
Yo it's Miku
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>>101704845
Hi yes it's me Hatsune Miku, everyone's favourite virtual idol.
My birthday is on the 30th this month, don't you forget it!
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>>101704860
Hey miku I love your music and your games :)
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>>101704860
You mean the 31st?
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Need a Miku futanari card
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>>101704927
She made Minecraft
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>>101704948
Cool I didn't know this, I was talking about Project Diva
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>>101704957
damn, what a capable game developer
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>>101704201
I do have the url but how do I get the pass?
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>>101704938
I'm bald. It's usually still the 30th for me when it's 31st in niponland and X, the everything app, is celebrating her birthday.
I will commit picross now (it's like sudoku but there's a Miku game for it https://store.steampowered.com/app/2089350/Hatsune_Miku_Logic_Paint_S/)
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>>101704998
ask desu
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>>101704998
if I bake bread, I'm a baker
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>>101705006
desu
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>>101705023
desu
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>>101701701
Kurayami, the master of flowery prose and awkward greetings. Chuunidork Wolfgirl. Pretty funny when put in a group chat with Kurohana (just tell Claude they are friends or sisters). Comes with two greetings:

1. Her mother set you up with her at a masquerade ball.
2. She visits you when you're sick.

Links: https://characterhub.org/characters/FluffAnon/kurayami-239953689857 / https://files.catbox.moe/r1ij9o.png
https://fluffanon.neocities.org/bots
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rentry.org/jew_proxy

refilled opus and discounted tokens for the first 10 people as part of the summer sale
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>>101705107
nice try scammer
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>>101705107
unironic scam btw
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>>101705107
IT WORKS!
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>>101705107
Do you even play GF
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>>101705116
>>101705120
antisemites
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Testing gemini.
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>>101704794
Keep in mind that only sorbet kinda follows through with the rpg elements (or that was the case for me and other cards I tried so far). The rest of the claude family is kinda meh. Sonnet 3.0 is specially bad at this.

The card itself proposes a "setting" where the AI may or may not throw in certain system messages about leveling up and what not.

There was a setting preset for RPG cards that an anon uploaded here. I tried it and it's pretty decent with sorbet. Untested with sonnet.
https://files.catbox.moe/drnwqm.json
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>>101705198
I only have Sonnet right now as I am a shitty locust. But I'll keep that in mind. Thank you anon!
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>>101705172
>>101705198
what did you change lil bro
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>>101705219
accidentally linked .me instead of .moe
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I am this close to losing it with sloppa output. I just can't get anything other than cliches or super predictable outputs.
>...for now
>only time will tell
Doesn't matter if it's Opus or 3.5, it just sucks.
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Fuck, MM's domain died while I was about to coom
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>>101705228
post preset
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MM's proxy not have issues every week impossible challenge
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>>101705243
https://rentry.org/SmileyTatsu
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https://techcrunch.com/2024/08/02/character-ai-ceo-noam-shazeer-returns-to-google/

The circle is now complete.
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did anyone give him those 7 dollars
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>>101705268
lmao
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>>101705241
I haven't been able to connect since about a couple of hours. Is/was it working?
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>>101705243
I'm using https://momoura.neocities.org/ but I'm open to whatever suggestions.
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>>101705286
LMAO
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this wasn't over, not by a long shot
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>>101705275
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>>101705243
Carnicle
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>>101705219
Yeah, I ated the o since I type links by hand.
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>>101705218
No worries. If you find a better preset or card pls link it.
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Is there any preset no one ever shits on? Don't say "your own"
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>>101705390
Schizo AO3 jb
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How can I pay the jew without using cryptocurrency? The rentry says he accepts G2A gift cards they aren't available as a payment option.
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>>101705398
email him and ask
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>>101705390
A4A
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>"{{char}}'s eyes [verb] with [noun]"

How to stop this for every starting paragraph with 3.5? Even using the "Vary the starting paragraphs instead of using nouns only." JB Doesn't work.
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>>101705395
link? in the mood for some schizo
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>>101705390
https://files.catbox.moe/ighnq3.json
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>>101705390
my own
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>>101705413
https://unconvincing.neocities.org/
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>>101705409
I use this, works well enough for me. It's also upto you to not pick bad swipes that have obvious repetitions. Once a chat history is poisoned, there is absolutely no saved it.
>{{random::- response must never start with a noun,,,,,,,}}
>- start your response in a nice way
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>>101705449
>>101705427
Same jb. Schizo keeps winning.
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>>101705390
My own
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I need Sorbet for assistant slop work, but I dont want to go through the sloppy process of setting up an account in OR.
Any sorbet proxy? I paid peps and chary but they don't have it now.
I don't want to pay anymore I want to be happy.
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>>101705551
Pay Jew, I don't know if they have Sorbet, but I think with those three proxies you've already closed the paypig circle.
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Anons, what would you like to see in a new and improved version of something like SillyTavern?
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>jewproxy.tech
>lifetime token
>IPs (max 20)
What happens when this reaches 20 IPs? Does it renew at some point?
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>>101705591
No change jb reverting proxy settings bug.
Multiple windows/chat tabs at once
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>>101705594
Ask jew to reset it for you
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which model talks the most like a human
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>>101705604
>Multiple windows/chat tabs at once
can't you already do this?
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>>101705591
Disable the proxy warning message, it is super cringe..
Fix the default preset reverse proxy change, it is also super cringe.
Open different windows and tabs to only see presets or character views.
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>>101705635
>Disable the proxy warning message, it is super cringe..
>Fix the default preset reverse proxy change, it is also super cringe.
fixed in my fork btw
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>>101705591
database backend
>>101705614
unfortunately cai
on the smarter model spectrum, claude opus
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>>101705654
How much do you sell you Silly Tavern fork?
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>>101705390
your own
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>>101704141
>https://litter.catbox.moe/wzfwrq.json
anon please i need this. the link has expired..
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>Waiting for chary to lose mistral and claude
:3 makes my clit throb
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>>101705672
https://files.catbox.moe/u5th4t.json
>>101705662
im reselling it for three fiddy, interested?
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>>101705662
it's free
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>>101705691
>https://files.catbox.moe/u5th4t.json
thank you much love
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>>101705678
Your boy clit? :3
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>finally get access to Opus
>switch back to 2.1 and miss the occasional 3.5
Kek
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Do you think the chatbot community would benefit if we started putting everything behind a paywall?
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>>101705769
Just rangeban China, India and Indonesia.
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>>101705769
No.
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>>101705614
opus or gemini with a preset like this: https://files.catbox.moe/c9gpxf.json
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>>101705769
if you want chatbots legally it already is
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>>101705787
>use asterisks for actions
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>>101705769
[TO SEE THIS REPLY YOU NEED AN /AICG/ GOLD ACCOUNT]
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>>101705816
yes anon that is how you do it
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why do anons hate chary
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>>101705827
didn't bother making a burner and grabbing it while it was open
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>>101705816
you know you can edit presets, right?
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>>101705827
anons be jealous and angry that they missed out. I don't see any legitimate reason to hate it
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>>101705827
It's killing AWS keys left and right.
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Geminisms I've noticed so far:
>as _ as... well, you know
>{{char}}, bless her _ heart/soul,
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MY NAME IS LAWSHANDRA
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>>101705769
Smilleytatsu Premium subscription, it automatically downloads the latest Smiley Bots and updates your Smiley JBs to it latest version.

Requirements: latest version of Silly Tavern to maximize efficiency
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I only use Chary for GPT-4o, and strictly for SFW stuff, so I really don't care if it loses Sonnet or Mistral. If it had Opus it would be another story.
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>use mistral large 2 with openrouter
>instruct turned on
>use my long list of instructions with top of the line LLM
amazing roleplay experience, recommended
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>>101705851
That they die twice a day is caused by jeets, not chary.
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>>101705926
Why use Mistral Large instead of Claude?
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>>101705769
Unironically yes, but on a greater scale, like /aids/ did with NAI.
Start a company, make a great coomer finetune which mogs opus in actual RP (creativity, lore knowledge, better prose, no slop, no repetition, no speaking for user, no prompt wrangling, while being dumber in logic), and sell a $30/mo subscription.
And don't abandon it, like NAI did.
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>>101705769
>>101705915
Few months ago I subscribed to Pitanon+ using Silly Tavern. Yesterday I received an email from pitanon.ai telling me that Pitanon is now an exclusive property of Risu... The thing is when I try to pay for the new month, Risu's webpage blocks my credit card.
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>>101705981
mitigating the lost-in-the-middle problem alone would put any finetune leaps and bounds above existing models
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>>101705981
When Kayra came out, there was still gpt turbo, then the competition was coherent. Today it makes no sense.
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just woke up
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>>101706070
good meowning anon!
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>>101706070
No Sorbet
No Opus
Go back to sleep, locustie :3
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>>101705981
>what is Pyg trying to do
But as other anon has noted, everything is already behind a paywall, be that the API cost or the hardware cost to run it locally. "The chatbot community" wouldn't benefit from this because it's built in the world where that is the reality already. /aicg/ isn't. And /aicg/ won't benefit from turning into /aids/. We were born from cai, like they were born from ai dungeon, we were burned like they were burned. But we can avoid the same mistake of being locked into a single provider, even though in a way we already made it.
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can't make mini gemini work
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Does pepsi have opus? I'm desperate.
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>>101706113
sovl, model?
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>>101706123
Pepsi is closed you dumb nigger, can't you read?
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imagine a cool robot
hnnnn
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Pepsi pls add 3.5
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>>101705981
>make a great coomer finetune which mogs opus in actual RP (creativity, lore knowledge, better prose, no slop, no repetition, no speaking for user, no prompt wrangling, while being dumber in logic), and sell a $30/mo subscription.
The problem is that this is simply not possible, no other model mogs Opus for RP right now, no matter how well finetuned it is. In the future, as public models get stronger, this will probably be possible, but of course then you will probably run into the problem of your public model probably not being as good as the latest, most high end private model.
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>>101701756
one or two in the past couple hundred prompts
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>>101705827
I had months to sign into discord. Request a key and have some readily available models. I didn't bother and now that they're closed I'm mixed with anger and sadness I didn't act upon it.
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>>101706176
eat dis
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large 2 may not be opus, but it's more than good enough
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>>101706226
Is it better than Sonnet? Both Sonnet 3 and 3.5 I mean.
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>>101705769
Although as many anons have said, it would be beneficial.
Most people here are pretty cheap. They are happy spending money on their gacha games or Steam games. Or they will buy GPUs so they can run a local model or whatever. But when it comes to using the something they like, they say, "Make it free, I don't want to spend on this."
I don't know what psychology is behind spending money on unnecessary things, but when it comes down to it, they tend to think "better if they are stolen keys".
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>>101706226
Feels soulless doesn't convey characters well, imo.
What's your preset?
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>>101706260
Imagine PAYING for piracy
Thats basically what your doing when you use a proxy as the keys don't belong to the person who filled the proxy. At most they should take donos, not demand payment
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baking
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>>101706264
desu
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>>101706260
This is the problem with porn, like you said some people here will spend hundreds every month on gacha, but if you even suggest spending 10 bucks on DLSite to buy a hentai game they get so fucking offended that you might as well have come up to them in real life and fucking punched them or something.
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>>101706295
desu in BA (real)
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>>101706240
No. Please stop asking.
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>>101705930
Yeah nah nah nah I need to see proof jeets cause it when it's charyniggers
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>>101706328
>>101706328
>>101706328
come to the new thread anon
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>>101706352
Then what's the POINT
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>>101706240
not better than 3.5 in a few categories but I find it better for rp
>>101706261
my own, it's soulless compared to opus of course but it follows characters well, it isn't insanely horny, it doesn't have as much repetition, it is much better than sonnet in intelligence, it's a good middle ground between 3 and 3.5, much like opus but still lacking in sovl compared to opus
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>>101706365
You're being trolled. Large sucks. Cease your inquiries.
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desu
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boku
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>>101706064
It makes total sense. A 100B finetune will mog opus in actual RP despite being dumber in everything.
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>pepsi aws keys so pozzed 99% of replies are blank
its over
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>>101706534
:3
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>>101706153
>no other model mogs Opus for RP right now, no matter how well finetuned it is
That's because there are no good finetunes, as finetuners don't RP. They don't even have any useful RP-specific metrics to measure their checkpoints with. They are not even aware of repetition problem.

Model being strong in RP doesn't depend on it being "smart". It depends on deliberate RP tuning. You can see it with GPT and Anthropic models, they're more or less equal in size/smarts, but are completely different when it comes to actual RP. This is PURELY the result of policy choice, not the difference in capabilities.

And even then, Opus is still not well optimized for RP, because Anthropic doesn't actually RP with their models, it's their vague idea on how an RP model should look like. We have a much better idea because we're fed up with their models in actual RP. Slop, rhetoric questions, repetition, speaking for the user, spotty lore, all that we are fruitlessly trying to compensate with schizo prompting, nothing of it is a problem if you can finetune. 100B is plenty enough for a great RP model, proper finetunes are ALWAYS punching way above their weight, that's the entire purpose.
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desu
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>>101705981
>Start a company
It's called Pygmalion. I can't tell if Anthracite is supposed to be another one.
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>>101707258 (me)
And fuck Desu, by the way.
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sir this is a bokudes
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>>101707274 (me)
On second thought, I'm sorry. Praise Desu!
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desu forgives desu



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