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>Wikis
https://dmpdoc.neocities.org/
https://web.archive.org/web/20220330105340/https://rentry.org/dmpdoc
https://rentry.org/dmprockandroll/
https://mu-sic-production.fandom.com/wiki//mu/sic_Production_Wiki

>/g/ makes a 13th album
Theme: Music for your god. (divine music, your interpretation)
Deadline: Midnight between August 31st and September 1st (UTC)
Please post title suggestions

>IMPORTANT! READ THIS BEFORE SUBMITTING:
Upload the file somewhere and post the link here. If you want to update your track, make a new post.
If possible use a lossless format and upload to a file-sharing service, not to a music site like Vocaroo or SoundCloud.
Include the title of the song in the post. Don't rely on us reading it from the filename or tags.
When you post the submission make sure that the song is clearly a submission for the album, otherwise it might get skipped.
Songs that contain anything against YouTube's policies won't be uploaded on YT (but will still be added to the album).
If your track's volume goes above 0 dB it will be clipped for the release.

>Where can I hear the previous albums?
https://rentry.org/dmpalbums

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>>101786059
>Theme: Music for your god. (divine music, your interpretation)
i'm a nihilist, can I just post mixer feedback?
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Is there really no way to organize the pattern controls menu in FL Studio?

It's not sorted by alphabetical order, renaming doesn't help, it's not sorted by what's being automated, what the fuck
Is there any way to organize this menu?
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Theme for the 14th album: Halloween
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you're talentless hacks like pajeet scammers. you won't even acknowledge aliasing in synths because you can't hear it even though it's obvious that many modern top tier songs are better produced than the 2000s/early 2010s EDM classics.
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>>101788150
The thread is too slow right now. We'll likely need an extension for the current one, and even if we don't, a non-extendable submission window of under two months might leave us with too few tracks.
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>>101788555
people just don't have the obama era optimism type of optimism, maybe you can get some people fresh out of high school who have a more naive view of the world and a different time perception so they feel like they can spend months or years just doing babby tier hobby things like these joke albums that no one listens to anyway
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>>101788555
get the resident schizo to make most of the album
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>>101788795
If he can deliver on some proper haunted house leads I'm all for it.
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>>101788813
the yawning/demonic soundtoys alterboy effect might fit with that even though i think it sounds like shit in most other contexts. some singers have their formants edited in more subtle ways to great effect but the overused exaggerated tiesto copycat sound is probably the main reason why i don't listen to house music.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuV99ZV5Qu0
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What's the best music making program for people who actually know how to play music?

I guess I just want to plug in a keyboard and have access to neat sounds. I don't want to drown in physical synths but also don't want to get lost in the sauce with digital junk.
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>>101786059

Where do you post your music to get feedback on it? I'm thinking on reddit but I'm sure those faggots are going to tell me that my karma is too low or something.
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>>101789718
any daw that isn't ardour or lmms
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>>101789747
in a place with good producers.. so definitely not here or leddit
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>>101789835
So where then?
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>>101789835

This >>101789868
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>>101789718
ableton live 12
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>>101789868
already told you nigga
you have to go find and get into a place that has better producers than you that are making similar music, and then you ask them for feedback. asking retards on random sites is just going to result in meme replies, it's as good as asking chatgpt
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>>101789868
used to on gearslutz but it's shit now
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>>101785315
Thank you anon, that was extremely helpful, I really appreciate it. I just need to spend more time on the little details. Also I forgot I quoted that other post lol
But yeah thanks again, it seems so obvious when I read it but I gotta just pay attention and really think about these choices. I'm pushing myself to output more because I eventually wanna compile a mix of mostly originals but if they all suck there's no point.
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>>101789868
he's probably the anon who pays for patreon/discord private servers where it's some high school dropout making tutorials and giving "lessons"
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>>101789956
>asking retards on random sites is just going to result in meme replies
>101790010
see what I mean?
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>>101790039
>butthurt
see what i mean?
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funny how there is some utter garbage being released even in modern times like alesso - falling is from 2017. if you're able to hear things like aliasing you'll have a huge advantage over the vast majority of bedroom producers.
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If my song is naturally reaching a true peak max of -1.5dB is there a reason to use a compresor and / or a limiter?
I could use them to get to -.01dB or closer but it seems to me that I'm only losing dynamic range for a little more volume. I'm doing (kind of) video-game music so I think dynamic range is more important that reaching -.01 or -.03dB.
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why has no one made a modern midi editor?
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>>101791381
you need to cinematic thiccmaxx that sound bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEtVnSG2uf4
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>>101791399
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXleyqIHqbA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fo0rqn1hMk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT3WiBf4ewc
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>>101791754
>>101791536
>>101791529
robotic way to produce music
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https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1enb1z7/bang_producer_of_world_hit_boy_band_bts_spending/
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>>101792553
in a way sure, but i for one want to take a modern clinical approach without boomer cruft. for example adding vinyl crackling or tape saturation is just tasteless to me. you can edit the velocities etc to get exactly the sound that you want. i actually listened to some 90s music and it was repetitive and dragging on for 4+ minutes without substance, people are blinded by nostalgia. the beatles made 2 minute songs but boomers conveniently gloss over that when complaining about modern 3 minute songs.
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Which better form for digital music organization, embedding quality album art into files' ID3 tags or using a file-level cover.png?
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>>101792553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_8Pma1vHmw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULYoQccuOpc
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Is it bad to name tracks I - II - III etc

Giving titles to abstract electronic/ambient music seems pretentious, makes me feel a bit homosexual
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>>101794418
>titles are pretentious and roman numerals aren't
you're a faggot for this post either way
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>>101788375
>EDM classics
nigga please
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>>101794931
they're old enough for most adults who aren't full-on geezers to have listened to them when they were kids. they come from the digital age of bedroom producers but pre-date serum. aliasing is an issue in the digital domain so it won't affect most boomer EDM which used physical synths.
see 4:50
>and some of them didn't age so well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdQMKnlAc10
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>>101786059
Bros. How the fuck do I genuinely get good at synthesizing good stuff with Sytrus? I just can't break through the weird beeeps and boops to make some nice pads or saws or eerie cool sounds.
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>>101795122
Why are you so fucking stupid

Go write a song already instead of being an annoying little poseur pseud.
You’re all talk and the talk is retarded.
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>>101795150
take the serum/vital pill
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>>101795173
I'm spending SO much fucking money on music laterly, it's genuinely insane.
Please explain how serum will help me create what I have in mind better than Sytrus for example.
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>>101795169
>>101795185
why are you fags unironically replying to the schizo
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>>101795185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZm4UjzqvL4
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>>101795150
Read the manual, methodical experimentation, looking up a summary of how FM works if you don’t know it already?
Same way as learning any other synth

>>101795185
Vital is free but you should use both

>>101795218
Idk I kind of just want to see him post music so we can all laugh at him tough
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>>101795244
https://vocaroo.com/1hsvF3fecuUh
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>>101795251
Why is it so long?
I thought you hated video game sounding music?
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>>101795230
>>101795266
>>101795280
1-2 upvote reddit posts aren't going to convice me to spend my money on serum. I just KNOW I will sit in front of the shiny synth software and still dick around without any actual progress.
>>101795244
Is right I should learn more theory or smth
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>>101795285
it's /prod/ anon's shitpost sorry lol i just thought it was funny with him posting the honky jazz over and over
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>>101795303
Huh...

>>101795298
I honesty don’t understand the insistent reference to “redditors say...” and random YouTube videos

If you become somewhat knowledgeable in literally anything you’ll immediately see that 9/10 posts are just straight up wrong and they’re just noobs regurgitating something they heard or aren’t experienced enough to have valuable input.

Serum is obviously a good synth but the overwhelming majority of people don’t “need” to be using is specifically over any other wavetable synth.
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>>101795363
it's much easier to find impressive demos of serum than of most other VST synths on youtube because it simply sounds better, which is easier to hear if you have good audio, and it's easier to use which helps you stay productive. for example, it's not helpful to say to wannabe photographers that GIMP is all they need, it's toxic reverse gatekeeping to deny that photoshop is better for professional work.
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>>101795150
I think it just comes down to studying the presets to see what's going on, the harmonics editing on the osc tab to make bell sounds are probably the trickiest thing
just today I was looking at the SFX presets and what sounded like a complicated effect, was just one sine wave FM'd by another sine @ max hz with this pitch envelope

also, there's a lot of sounds to study from that 100% Sytrus .flp project file
I uploaded it to catbox so you don't need an image-line account to access the forum it's on

https://files.catbox.moe/xbpxe3.flp
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>>101795528
Thanks anon
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>>101795494
There are 100x more resources on serum and a years worth of content on every other synth. Having “good audio” has nothing to do with it. I can prance circles around you with stock synths.
Go be retarded somewhere else.
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>>101795494
kek that analogy with gimp/photshop is peak retardation
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>>101795546
virus synths are older but it's mostly these beepy tones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVgo6vQRE-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o4KVDtpBAo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzekaArwiJc
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>>101795653
Okay
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Reminder
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>>101795602
Is GIMP not universally regarded as being an objectively worse Photoshop alternative?
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>>101786059
sytrus my beloved
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>>101798203
>>101798207
>>101798208
Based page 10 rescue team
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https://voca.ro/1cZM1BsboFDb
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>>101798207
yes but with audio there is a lot of subjective dunning-kruger and hobbyist cope. audiophiles are some of the most insufferable people in the world and there's some of that in music production as well, dudebros having unfounded rigid beliefs like insisting that the 100% sytrus demo is impressive and useful to learn from, that fl studio plugins are all that's needed despite multiple anons saying that it's cringe. there's a shitload of money to be made by successful producers just by making music that isn't comically bad and unlistenable, but 99% of people who try to make music fail spectacularly and cope by claiming they're just a hobbyist, a DJ or a teacher etc.
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>>101794931
this is from 2009
>‘Waiting’ the ultimate vocal #trance classic produced by Seb & Eelke with vocals by none other than #EmmaHewitt! #DashBerlin #TheNewDaylight
>From the classic trance album 'The New Daylight', tracklist with links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrZsH32rF8
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>>101791381
Dynamic range has nothing to do with your peak level. A sausig master peaking at -10 is not dynamic. You have to increase loudness range by contrasting loud and quiet elements.
Unless there's a good reason otherwise your master should peak as loud as possible, otherwise you are wasting bit depth. You don't have to use a limiter for that, you can also normalize the audio any other way.
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I have an ATR-2500 USB microphone that I've dropped a fair number of times and has no stand, suffering from severe grounding related interference.

Is there a way I can somehow pair this thing with an external DAC (like a Sound Blaster X-1) and then connect that an android phone in order to record sample audio? My laptop battery is shot to hell and will not endure such a task.
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>>101791381
Yes. The peak is just the loudest bit. A compressor or limiter can make the quiet bits louder without the loud bits getting louder and clipping.
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>>101801009
wrong. a limiter is a compressor before a clipper. any peak in the attack phase will be clipped and (subjectively) louder.
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>>101801569
Can, not will. Also, lookahead limiters and compressors exist.
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Is minidsp flex worth it? I'm mainly trying to get it for dirac room correction.
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https://youtu.be/Bzhdkh7i20Y
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thoughts on what I made in Ableton ?

I tried making synthesizing my own percussions

be honest pls ...

https://voca.ro/1iLStrkvY3WG
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>>101803390
So is he actually a furry or not?
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>>101804722
Sounds good, I like the atmosphere; just now I'm working on a trance track with 100% synthesized drums

It's more fun than just picking out samples because the synthesized drums can be crafted be tweaked to your liking
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>>101806827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=480PixlMdRM
What do you think
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this feels like a classic even though it's as recent as 2014
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=oh2LWWORoiM
i hadn't actually heard the original, i had heard this remix instead so i was wondering why i was hearing instrumentals that i didn't remember
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=SYM-RJwSGQ8
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it seems like pretty much every top tier song has a vocal star talent
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=GzU8KqOY8YA
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=ozv4q2ov3Mk
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=weeI1G46q0o
so it would be very difficult to make it as a solo producer in current year without finding people to do vocals
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I just bought a used MPC2000XL, it will replace my MPC2000 "OG" edition. It's in "almost never used" condition.
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>>101809843
I've bought so much shit and never even taken it out of the box. Same with software; I get it, but don't even install it. It's like for a moment, I'm buying the dream of doing something, but then when it comes, I just continue my state of doing nothing.
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Tomorrow I clean my desk, pick up a USB-DP cable, and install Ableton Live Lite.
Please hold me accountable, page 10.
>>101804722
Pretty cool. Are all percussive sounds, including the clap-like one synthesized?
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>>101809923
That's sad, I'm just glad to have more MIDI events per sequence. I also like the idea of the flip up LCD display.
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>>101811456
>Ableton Live Lite
Why not Suite?
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>>101813733
I want my computer to remain clean. I wouldn't mind having Suite on my air-gapped always offline computer, but I don't leave that one on all the time, so I'm significantly less likely to use it.
Lite should be enough for me to get a taste for the world of DAWs.
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>>101813762
Pussy
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hey girls, hey boys, glad i am able to join this chat. i am looking for a cool music generators. like midjourny but instead of images it makes music. any recommendations?
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>>101814791
https://suno.com/
https://www.udio.com/
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>>101814813
thanks
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>>101814813
i am back. i tried both, its shit. do you have something that actually works?
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I have been learning Bitwig for the last six months and I love it, but I realize that my creative process really relies on my ability to record non-tempo based musical passages. In FL I used Edison with no problem, but in Bitwig recording audio outside of the time domain gets a little annoying. I found out the Melda makes a simple recording vst Mrecorder that does the job, but it is too basic. I found an old vst version of IL's Edison, but I don't have a serial. Plus it sucks to use an ancient vst that is no longer supported by the developer. I might have to bite the bullet and try to make my own audio editor vst similar to Edison, but right now I don't have the time. Why do DAW's outside of FL fail to provide people with a scratch pad audio editor outside of the time domain, bros?
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>>101815026
Edison is not supported anymore by IL ? Really ? It is kind of odd, considering to me a big selling point of FL studio is getting to work with Edison and Harmor. I know both of these you can take to other daws but still.
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>>101815038
Edison is no longer sold as a VST. It is still integrated into FL studio though.
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>>101794418
I make ambient tunes and give them titles based on the vibe of the track and overall theme of the album I'm making. I don't think song names or Roman numerals are "pretentious" at all. At the end of the day, who gives a shit anyway?
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>>101794418
>roman numerals are pretentious
Let me guess, American?
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>>101815019
>average tech angel investor
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>>101815019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K6RH-V4_1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULYoQccuOpc
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>>101811456
yea, all made myself. but I used a lot of effects, sometimes it was a lot of work for a medium result, but the training was worth it
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>>101792963
>mfw this guy is worth over 3 billion dollars
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cubase
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>>101816820
thanks man
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>>101811456
>pick up a USB-DP cable
Change of plans. I picked up some speakers instead and am going to use my ~old desktop for production instead of my new laptop.
Surely these 2" drivers will deliver the bass.
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Which scale(s) is this song in?

https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/maribou-state/steal-chords-3968266
https://youtu.be/PZkdmtbDUnY
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>>101818741
>scale(s)
Key, bro.
E major. I'm not listening beyond the first ten seconds though.
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>>101818889
>E major key
How did you determine that? Is there a system for finding out or do you just know them all by heart?
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>>101818937
I just know them all by heart.
It's what sounds right. You can start by playing along, and if you hear a sour note, you know it's likely not a key that contains that note.
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>>101815026
Just solo a muted track? Rolling sampler is another popular alternative. Nothing will be as powerful as Edison tho.
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Bump
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ty to whoever posted about harmonic reverb last thread

this might actually make the outro to my track or a whole new one <.<
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Setting up a new (old) computer is such a pain in the ass... I've forgotten all the software that I had on my previous (current) daily and now my new (old) computer feels lacking.
I guess I'll just focus on Live Lite and my key plugs for now.
>>101818562
These speakers have so much more low end than the laptop speakers I was used to. I don't like it.
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Im bulding a custom midi keyboard, what do you guys think about the design? The modwheel and the pitchbend, also aftertouch will have the option
to connect to another exterior device that has lots of customization options like velocity curves, presets etc.. so all the analog inputs can be configured in many ways, something missing from most midi keyboards.. High end fatar tp8s keys also totally configurable, not just with velocity curves but also customizing the range of the linear curve to account for soft and hard playing styles without using curves where you lose resolution and always end up with less then 127 values
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>>101823312
mine's gonna jave all those features and more. preview of it now
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>>101823515
I actually have all the internals sorted out already so the features are there.. Im in the process of sourcing the wood for the enclosure, waiting for a nice piece of walnut or mahogany to pop up..

Your bitter response tells me im doing something right
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>>101823880
I'd put those wheels above the board, that way it's narrower. But that's just my personal preference.
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>>101823903
Not him, but...
>tell me you don't play keyboard without telling me you don't play keyboard
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>>101823880
i'm not bitter. you're posting things far too early for anyone to care about. mod wheels suck, rather have a ribbon strip like a cs80. i already have plenty of devices with mod wheels that i barely use
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>>101823903
I spent a lot of time thinking about the 2 choices and went for the wheels on the left as i find it more ergonomic and also it creates less dead space. With the wheels and electronics above it needs a lot of space behind the keybed and only 1\3 of it gets occupied.. Id go with that design if i would want lots of knobs but i dont care for those on the actual keyboard. Would be a lot easier to build tho..
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>>101823929
I've been playing piano and then keyboard since before you were born, kiddo.

>>101824307
I just like it because I feel it's more ergonomic, but if you look at keyboards through time they come both ways. I guess because different people feel differently about where to put those controls.
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>>101824365
>I've been playing piano and then keyboard since before you were born, kiddo.
You've been playing since before 1985?
If you end up playing at the low end while also wanting to pitch bend/adjust mod, then you'll have your arms on top of each other, which is way more uncomfortable to me than just having the wheels off to the side.
...gives me fuckin' pstd from measure 60 of Szymanowski's Wyspa syren.
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>>101824469
not her, but we do have some old fucks in here that reminisce about the 90s and the gear they had then
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>>101824157
Arent there any ribbon midi solutions? I have the the option to connect any kind of controller, ribbon, fsr, light sensors.. I just dont have a personal need for any of those so i didnt incorporate that directly but its possible. The ribbon itself is like 25$ so maybe i will think about it..
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>>101795150
I used to have a program that taught you the basics of sound design with a hands on approach. Can't remember the name of it. But just use something better than stryus. There are a million presets for it and they all sound shit.
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I lost thousands of £s worth of software because of glownegros but the one thing I miss the most is arturia v collection. It costs a fucking fortune but you can make music for years just using the presets. One day I'll buy/pirate it all again and get back to making music.
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Alright, image this

Image Line makes their very first desktop synth module but it's just an exact hardware recreation of their old Sytrus software synth
A total buy?

Resident shitposter schizo, your thoughts?

You could make this with just that one single synth
https://youtu.be/ZWDOIm24lhw
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>>101825304
>wavestate
Why didn't you use the opsix for that comparison?
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Anyone have any thoughts on a compact audio interface, preferably with 4in/4out? I've been looking into grooveboxes lately and nothing really appeals to me. I'm thinking that just running a DAW off of a SBC will do what I want (running simple insert fx & surge-xt will pretty much beat anything else on the market lol)

Zynthian looks good. It's only 2i/2o though, unfortunately.
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>>101825946
4x4 isn't really compact, at that point you might as well go 8
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>>101825946
I still say a prayer every night hoping for KORG to come out with a new Electribe that is based on the ESX/EMX. If we all do this, perhaps we will manifest it into reality.
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>>101826124
this but the em-1
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ffs why are people such jerks? i think people either have bad audio or are bad at listening. redditors say that arturia pigments is the best software synth but the examples don't sound very good to me compared to what you can do with serum.

it took me no effort at all to know which CS-80 was the hardware synth even from not knowing what specific characteristics to expect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-wUodAF6iM
answers here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYpVpTP8Vzg

no arturia demo sounds like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxKVY7nJPJE
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>>101826142
Absolute soul. I ordered one from eBay and I didn't realize that the Effect/Delay selector knob was fucked up and replaced with a screw that doesn't turn, so I can't change effects.
My ES-1 encoder knob is screwy with values jumping all over the place, so that one is unusable.
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>>101794418
Do WHATEVER YOU WANT faggot, simple as
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>>101826124
They have it, Electribe Wave. If you get the Korg keyboard / pad Bluetooth / USB MIDI controller, it's great.
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>>101826231
I would also need to get an iPad for that.
Perhaps the Gadget VSTs are close enough?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSrHYOQhG3M
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>>101826153
>ffs why are people such jerks?
you are the jerk
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>>101826633
be upset all you want but you're not getting close to top tier production that's up to the quality expectations for 2024 and beyond. cherry audio GX-80 is cheaper than arturia CS-80 V so it's not even a gatekeeping thing. it's like /iemg/ tards simping for the apple dongle because they don't know any better when you can get chinese dongles that are better for not much money.
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i regret mentioning the cs80 earlier in the thread, didn't know that'd set the schizo off because he obviously doesn't know anything about music production or old music gear. he clearly never heard of that synth until today
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>>101828304
cope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W7dkav6UGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC_FWNWrL4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ROl1JChZG0
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I'm getting used to the resident schizo: his garbage doesn't read as human speech anymore to me, it's like background noise. My brain stopped trying to make sense of his gibberish to the point I wonder if it's not just a bad IA.
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>>101788375
to this day I haven't heard a single album with better production quality than Massive Attack's Blue Lines or Mezzanine. And they're not even my favorite band
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>>101789718
Garageband. There are top hits made entirely in the app
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This quesion is probably going to sound really weird but when someone is doing a song analysis and they're pointing out all of the chords that were used, does the song that's using the chords use notes that fit with that chord? Like if I were making song and I see some chords that sound really cool could I pick a group chords that sound nice with each other and then just any notes that fit with that particular group of notes instead of just using the chords kind of as is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hr5dm5jK_A
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>>101828597
you're one to talk when you're newer than me and you're blogposting about buying random stuff and not doing much with it
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>>101828767
just toss out all of that chord nonsense, literally
all that faggy gay nonsense of naming and categorizing chords with these gay numbers, just throw it out,

pick a scale and just make chords from it, deviate from the scale in a chord here and there to your liking and you can easily make any possible chord this faggot is rambling on about

look at this stupid shit, homo here is trying to invent new chord names in his little gay list of chords and it's just the fucking C major scale where some queer just used 2 extra random notes when they randomly felt like it. That's it.
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>>101825304
mogged by
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6vZffg47O8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzfHcY3_TOw
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I actually prefer the schizo's current serum shilling arc, maybe deadmau5 is going to take him because of that and then we'll be free
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>>101829009
One other question as well. How would I find chords for a melody that I've made? I have one I like but I need chords for it so I can add variation to it.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/deadmau5/comments/4ldosz/heres_some_mirrors_for_the_wavetables_joel_put_out/
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>>101829108
nice try shitposter
2nd one is not bad actually, pretty good, but it's very confined to just prog house
I was really hoping someone would find something on the same caliber as the Sytrus one though,

no where NEAR as versatile and impressive as the 100% Sytrus demo
- better and more varied percussion
- bells
- bass & regular guitar
- organs
- synth pads and leads
- varied SFX beyond just white noise

Now, Serum is plenty better in a number of ways, just not in a '100% only' demo way it seems!! =^)
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>>101829156
I would just start by whatever key the melody is in
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why daws is so overwhelming... i don't know where to even start..
any dummy friendly guides?
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>>101829268
the 1st one has lots of subbass that i guess you're not hearing properly
the style of music in the sytrus demo is not what i'm interested in but you can do those kinds of sounds too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZGE5o2THkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vCK6zpvXFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60Yr4jP6Wdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu7GGB8ze9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEOYall0SCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9xyEEWPGm0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgWjZdh9tTk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEAu1JrZOZA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7jwVS-hoik
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB6B2p4QJG0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yxEwFiGxjc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuV8ZR43CbY
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>>101829341
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EWe94BnoG0
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>>101829951
rita ora - your song is a top tier song it sounds maybe even better than the actual song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuV8ZR43CbY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HHZEx-NIzU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPF6o0VKGbY
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lol i looked up phase plant because it's the #2 reddit synth after arturia pigments and it's so muddy in every demo

this wouldn't even be good enough 15 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-t-LS-E05I
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pPfKlXMA7M
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Db9rGbth_o
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Why are you making music when you could be making six figures talking about Mr Beast?
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>>101826153
Pigments is pretty good but never as good as Serum
>>101818741
>>101818889
>>101818954
The scale could be E major, it's relative minor C#minor or any of its modes. You won't know the scale until you have a melody. The way to determine the key is to see how the chords are constructed and look in the harmonic circle which key has those alterations. Alteration means a note that's either sharp or flat:

F# minor>> F#-A-C#
>At this point you see your triads are built with # notes so you know you're dealing with the right hemisphere of the circle.
A Major>> A-C#-E
>So far we have 2 alterations F# and C#. The harmonic circle tells us that it could be D, A, E, B or F#. Let's keep looking to find out.
A/E (A major with bass in E)>> E-A-C#
Bsus2>>B-C#-F#
Bsus2/C# (same chord as above but with a C# bass note)>> C#-F#-B
D major>> D-F#-A
D maj7>>(same as above + a major 7th interval)>>D-F#-A-C#
E major>>E-G#-B
>new alteration G#. This narrows our options to E and beyond, but... we've already seen our song has a non-altered A, so our key can't be B (the next option after E in the circle) because B has an A#, so the only choice left is E.

Sorry for the long post. You can look up on how they built the harmonic circle online.
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>>101833579
>but never as good as Serum
NTA but how so?
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>>101833627
i'm looking for a hyper hi-fi sound with either the rawest digital sounds or the purest analog sounds like in taylor swift - i can do it with a broken heart (uses physical synths)
the arturia demos are veiled in some inherent artificial analog softness, aliasing or noise which might be extremely subtle on the average listener's audio setup but is unacceptable for my purposes, like whatever is going on in this video but less severe >>101831048
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-t-LS-E05I
a lot of the examples for pigments on youtube are for ambient/generative music where that softness might be even desirable but it's not for me
and not just pigments, a significant number of respondents thought arturia's CS-80 did not sound as good as the physical yamaha CS-80 >>101826153
>answers here:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYpVpTP8Vzg
dave polich thinks cherry audio GX-80 sounds fantastic and i agree, especially the second half in >>101826267
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSrHYOQhG3M
cherry audio GX-80 has a purer more impressive sound to me like demos of the physical yamaha CS-80 or arcade summer's synthwave presets for serum
see also the link below with regards to features in pigments vs serum
https://www.reddit.com/r/edmproduction/comments/11znzcc/comment/jddejsn/
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>>101833627
For me it's its versatility and the appeal it has with the whole community of musicians. For example, go to rutracker and lookup 'serum' and there's thousands of presets and sound packs created by normal users and top audio designers alike. Serum is so relevant that Korg created the Modwave inspired on it, furthermore, wavetables created in Serum can be loaded into the Modwave.
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>>101829341
hit play, start playing
daw the rest of the owl
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>>101818741
It's in F# minor because the vocal melody is based on the F# minor pentatonic scale, and the C# in the chorus tonicizes F# minor. Songs in major keys just don't have this kind of vibe.
The tab site you posted mostly had it right except it says there's B in the chorus, but it sounds more like some kind of Bsus chord to me.
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>>101835052
sorry meant to say the B chord in the verse*
but just the C# to F# minor cadence is the easiest give away
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>>101824469
>You've been playing since before 1985?
Yep, sure have, junior.
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>>101798343
>https://voca.ro/1cZM1BsboFDb
dope

>>101804722
drum sounds are solid, but could be more forward driving. i'm thinking a sound that stands out harder played on the 1, or any other more obvious rhythmic hook. maybe higher pitched toms as an accent.
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>>101829156
If your melody is moving in any direction, there are probably chords being outlined or implied, which should narrow down the possible chords to use.
Sure you can make any melody note work with any chord. But if your melody is pretty normal and written with a tonal center in mind, and you're not trying to add tons of passing chords everywhere, there shouldn't be all that many ways to harmonize it.
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what the fuck is amapiano
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>>101818741
>>101835052
Just to confirm F#minor key. I hadn't heard the song when I posted this:
>>101833579
just by reading through the cords in your image and missed that natural D. Sorry for misguiding you.
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>>101840045
it's like african house or some shit
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Bros I need some solid advice.
I am moving so I'm gonna sell my mac to help with that. I have a ubuntu studio computer but I couldn't really fuck with it. Would it be worth starting over on Linux Mint, and doing JACK/Pipewire from scratch?
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>>101841794
are you the same retard that bought a used mac laptop

linux is fine as long as you're not trying to record live isntruments into it over an interface
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Finally managed to find a Yamaha Breath Controller that wasn't gross looking or $300. I'm so excited. It's here but I have to let it dry and then sanitize it with my ionizer. I'm going to use it with my EX-5R.
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it's here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEqnyLcYL50
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>>101841859
Nah I’ve been having this Mac for 3 years. I’m just more or less just moving away from mac and more into Linux for everyday computing. That does suck on live recording, as I’ve got a nice sampling workflow currently with building patches on the modular then chopping
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The xenia microwave IIXT emulation is out. You're welcome
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>>101843421
might just be my interface and drivers but the delay is too massive for me to live play guitar or bass
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>>101843533
Thanks.
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Ok so imagine this, Native Instruments makes their first desktop synth module......... and it's of their Massive software synth.....
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https://synthanatomy.com/2024/08/the-usual-suspects-nodal-red-2x-free-nord-lead-2-emulation.html

https://www.matrixsynth.com/2024/08/dsp56300-emu-nodal-red-2x-clavia-nord.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyc0qZjfVzA
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how important is grounding for sound? I'm asking cus all the outlets in my studio room are floating
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>>101841794
I had better performances with just jack. I don't record audio often but last time I tried my current pipewire setup I couldn't play live guitar with as low latency as with my previous jack setup. It's also largely dependent of how well your audio interface is supported in Linux.
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>>101846752
it's just a minor safety concern, ground loop won't be an issue if they're connected to the same outlet
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>>101846752
This can be a problem sometimes
https://superuser.com/questions/1699658/microphone-makes-a-buzzing-sound-in-laptop-when-i-plug-in-the-charger#:~:text=1%20Answer&text=It%20appears%20your%20laptop%20power,without%20connecting%20the%20ground%20tab.
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so the 31EDO etc youtubers are schizos, 12TET is where it's at. but you still have the caveat that singers and some instruments can pitch bend so it's pretty much like just intonation depending on the harmonic context. so it's not 12TET in the strictest sense so it can still be valid to use microtuning in a DAW.
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>>101850563
For someone who likes to talk about dunning kruger every other post you have some comically low self awareness of where you stand on the curve.
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>>101851584
>not an argument
seethe lol there are anons who aren't really getting anywhere after 10+ years >>>/mu/123135417 >>>/mu/123144644 >>>/mu/123145308 while i have basically all of the essentials except for vocals and there are still some people who are able to succeed with instrumental only tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y3xg-1SQ7k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BjbFcRFMl4
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>>101853785
Can we hear something you made?
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>there are still some people who are able to succeed with instrumental only tracks
or bootleg covers and remixes
you don't have to be mozart to remake songs in the super mario 64 soundfont or make hardstyle remixes. those people don't seem to respect copyright laws much and they get away with it on youtube and patreon. you could remix viral videos on tiktok etc.
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>>101786059
>album theme suggestion
Super Mario 64 Soundfont
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHiTUBVLmFI
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>>101853785
>>101853804
>no response
Are you really going around boasting your music-making capabilities, sharing your nuggets of wisdom, belligerently arguing with people about what makes good music and what leads to success, while being a complete beginner who hasn't even made ONE song?

You remind me of the good old days of online martial arts discussions, where people would read books and watch instructional DVDs, then go around boasting their fighting capabilities, sharing their nuggets of wisdom, belligerently arguing with people about techniques and which style is more effective, while being a complete beginner who hasn't even sparred once, let alone having been in a fight of any kind.

Normally I'd consider this too retarded not to be a troll, but with the amount of effort you'd have to be putting in just for this dumb larp I'm thinking you might actually be this mentally ill for real. If you're not, I respect the effort (but still, please kill yourself in any case).
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>>101854533
you're also trolling dipshit
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>>101854583
???
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>>101854590
you're talking a lot of shit and being a hater while not contributing anything positive
i have done plenty of research on alternative tunings and it all comes back to 12TET but it's more nuanced than that because of pitch bend which you should be aware of since your DAW workflow might be constraining you to basic bitch piano style 12TET
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>>>/mu/123160779
lol
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>>101854622
Anything that can be said about you with any amount of objectivity will be negative. There's literally nothing positive to say about your posts.
How do you feel about the fact that when you started posting everyone lost motivation to participate in the thread, which is why nobody feels like posting anything worthwile anymore?
Is everyone wrong in disliking your posts? Or was driving everyone off the thread the goal from the start?

Also, if this post >>101854583 is you, what do you mean by "also"?
Are you admitting that you're trolling and that you don't really mean the schizobabble you keep posting?
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>>101854702
>Are you admitting that you're trolling and that you don't really mean the schizobabble you keep posting?
considering that this nigga started making fun of people learning from artists like koan sound saying that they're literal whos, and now he spams every thread with tutorials from literal trannies that are only have a presence on youtube as someone that makes "how to place your kicks and snares" tier tutorials, yes, he's very much trolling
what I don't get is how someone can have this much time, like, he's here 24h, and now both in this general and /mu/ shitposting. it must be some waste of a life getting retardbux from the government or his parents
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1UtRnGn5hc
>259,724 monthly listeners
https://open.spotify.com/artist/2wdY7YDYVddKtVbbgh1fCT
>99,161 monthly listeners
https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NCLweIUpq8knzemBwAwoo
>HOW THE FUCK DID I SPENT 10 YEARS MAKING MUSIC AND THERE ARE TRANNY ZOOMERS WHO ARE STILL BETTER. WTF
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you guys need to stop arguing with somebody who is always going to respond with a non-sequitur when confronted with any type of logic lol
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"weird" impulse responses?

I have a sound in my head that needs to come out that requires like...resonation through the back of an upright piano
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>>101855229
You need Yamaha VL synthesis.
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>>101855600
you may be right...
but WHERE is the VST version..........................

okay ONE more round of halo and we start the days autism (without sleep)
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>>101854844
>what I don't get is how someone can have this much time, like, he's here 24h, and now both in this general and /mu/ shitposting. it must be some waste of a life getting retardbux from the government or his parents
Yeah, that's what made me lean toward him being genuine. It's way too much time and effort just to troll a niche thread on a mongolian basket weaving forum.
I guess it's worth it to some people.

>>101855061
If he can't respond he literally just ignores you and carries on like nothing happened kek.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq-7f9xK3Sg
Danny Brown apparently spent way too much on samples and is having (or had) a hard time recouping the investment.
I understand that for certain genres/styles having a good sample is key, but does it have to be something that expensive?
Has anyone ever made a critically and/or commercially successful record with public domain samples?
I'm guessing if you really want the cream of the crop, it's probably from a successful act, but I'd be surprised if there weren't top tier artists (that have all the skills, character, etc.) who aren't super famous and expensive to sample.

(not the shitposter btw, if it wasn't obvious)
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>>101856347
bruh public domain would be old as dirt and too lo-fi for lo-fi. most anons are going to tell you that you don't need to spend a lot of money on just a hobby of course. you can do more interesting sound design with just serum for the genres that i'm interested in.
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>>101856347
damn that's crazy, that was good shit too and everybody loved it
also his laugh lmao

>public domain
not technically but obviously all the classic breaks don't ever get cleared lol
... and obviously jazz standards and classical shit gets interpolated or quoted etc but obvs that's not technically sampling by the strictest definition

>>101856439
lol
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>>101856439
>bruh public domain would be old as dirt and too lo-fi for lo-fi.
Is all public domain music just expired copyright? Is there (practically) no newer music that was just made public for ideological reasons or because it's part of some government program or whatever?
Sorry if it's a dumb obvious question. I genuinely have zero idea.

>you can do more interesting sound design with just serum for the genres that i'm interested in.
Yeah but these aren't the only genres that people make.
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>>101856483
Yeah I guess interpolation (and plagiarism lol) can be a valid middle ground, but this kind of sampling heavily relies on the character or "essence" of the original record, which you're going to lose if you just recreated it or whatever.
I'm not even close to being skilled enough for this, but theoretically you could so6t of analyze what makes a record/sample great and make something new that has that same essence.

>also his laugh lmao
Lol how much do you think it would cost to clear?
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>>101856347
it wasn't really the samples that put him in the hole, it was entire mismanagement of the project. he spent a bunch of money on studio time and mixing/mastering. if i recall, he also went overtime with how long it was supposed to take to make the album. the 70k on samples is just the catchy headline

no one here is ever going to have issues with that and you could just create your own samples that are similar enough to get the point unless you really need a certain one
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>>101856855
>it wasn't really the samples that put him in the hole, it was entire mismanagement of the project. he spent a bunch of money on studio time and mixing/mastering. if i recall, he also went overtime with how long it was supposed to take to make the album. the 70k on samples is just the catchy headline
Ah I see.

>you could just create your own samples that are similar enough to get the point unless you really need a certain one
But it's gonna be a shittier knockoff of the original. I don't think I'll ever be able to replicate the "essence" of anything that isn't electronic.

>no one here is ever going to have issues with that
Not the label budget thing, but if I'm a bedroom producer and I want to use samples for whatever reason, I have to be mindful of the fact that I can't use those copyrighted (and if good, likely expensive) ones without running the risk of getting caught at some point in the future.
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>Making VSTs is NOT by any means easy. Serum took several years and required the consultation of people with doctorates in mathematics for the filter designs. You need at least an undergrad level of math and a senior level understanding of C++. Then you need to understand the math behind exactly what you are doing, and have the creativity in mathematics to try something new.
i'm telling you guys, serum and cherry audio synths sound way better than most other software synths
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>>101857206
Making Serum's competitors also had the same difficulties and requirements.
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so0o0o hypothetically is there a non stupid way to rig up per voice (actually note) effects racks?

I figured out a way to get the resonance I was looking for and it sounds cool on a bass but it instantly begged to be a pad.

Chords into this sounds like a fucking mess though.
As I write this my mind wanders to key tracking some instances of Slice EQ to aid with the noisiness but... that's a lot and it has its own problems.
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>>101857281
oh, picrel

apologies for that and if there's a really obvious way... brain is running at like a 20% battery here and i'm just trying to make something useful today beffore i pass out x.x

yes i realize the cpu cost.
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>>101857271
ok but how many software synths can get that level of clarity at 3 mins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbnLqOI1yQA
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>>101857281
>per voice (actually note) effects racks
What do you mean exactly?
Like every new note "activates" a new separate instance of the rack (so if for example you have a free-running LFO, each note would have it at a different phase)?
Or like if you press a C you activate one rack/chain, if you press an F you activate another, etc?
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>>101857429
>Like every new note "activates" a new separate instance of the rack
and is routed through, yep.

basically i just want every chord voice to have its own chain without having several different instances with their own midi lmao

honestly it wouldn't even be that big of a deal to do in a simple arrangement but you know.... all about the fun little experiments lol
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>>101857401
At least wait until the thread AFTER the one where everyone agreed that you're a troll, before going back to posting like this.
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>>101857486
>assmad that he can't hear how good it sounds
>can't post a counterexample of sytrus or even pigments sounding as good
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>>101857498
How about you respond to the posts above about you being a troll that you suddenly and conveniently decided to ignore?
If you keep doubling down on what makes us think you're a troll then don't be surprise if we don't want to argue with you.
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>>101833579
I just use scaler 2 now. I'm still reading music theory sites and watching various youtube vids but to get something going quickly scaler2 works pretty well.
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>>101857532
what is there to say? i'm objectively correct about a lot of things and you're coping and seething, while some of what i post has humoristic undertones like nahre sol is legit but she uses this clickbait title and thumbnail style but it was still relevant to anon's question about making OSTs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hel9mGippUU
you're the one trolling by calling me a troll and demanding that i respond to this off-topic nonsense.
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>>101857576
I'm going to stop responding to you now.
Good job, you win, you convinced us that you're not a troll and that you're correct in whatever it is that you're saying.
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>>101857687
buttblasted
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>>101857687
rule 1 of dealing with trolls: never ever say they're correct even if sarcastically because that's all they want to hear and get pleasure out of. these people don't ever deal in good faith and you can't convince them of logic since they don't play that game
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>>101857716
Yep. You did it. You won.
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>>101857758
I really don't care if he's happy or not. I just want it to be clear to everyone in the thread that he's a troll, so they stop engaging with his posts and the thread doesn't have to be derailed every time he writes something.
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>>101857481
Normally you'd also have to route the individual notes from an instrument, into their own chain (I'd use one of those microtuning M4L things that round robin different instances of the same instrument, and I'd just copypaste the rack after each one), but assuming that that's not an issue and you want all of them to get the same audio input, one way to do it is:
>make a new track with an instrument rack with as many identical chains as you need
>as the instrument use the lightest synth or sampler you can, and put some high-pitched tone
>use the aforementioned round robin thing (will look it up later, don't remember what it's called lol) to make each instance
>make your rack with as many identical chains as the number of instrument rack chains (if your rack has multiple chains, nest it into this new rack)
>as the first device of each chain you put a gate in sidechain mode set to listen to its corresponding instrument rack chain
Now each new note triggers a different instrument, which turns on the audio input for one effect rack chain, then turns it off when the instrument stops making sound.
If you need each effect to be keytracked, put a separate keytracker on each instrument rack chain

If you don't want to use it with M4L, you can do the same as above, but instead of the round robin device, you set each chain on a different MIDI zone thing. Maybe you can play around with routing and having multiple gates before each chain (stacked in their own sub-rack or something).

Obviously you can put the gate at the end of the chain if you want the racks to be processing the input at all times and only output it when the right note is sent to the instrument rack.

PS:
Might be a compressor and not a gate lol. I'm a bit sleepy rn, but you get the idea lol.
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>>101857765
thanks for the (You)
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>>101857481
>>101857886
I think it was this one:
https://ursine.gumroad.com/l/IELBb?layout=profile
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>>101857910
>>101857886
dang thanks, gotta try this later @.@
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>>101857886
>>101857910
Forgot to add that you might find something that does the same but without the microtonal feature. However, since you're not going to hear the output of those instruments, it shouldn't really matter, other than for the additional CPU hit from the program calculating the new frequencies and whatnot.
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>>101857962
Any time.
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>>>/mu/123164059
they're laughing at you kek
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>>101855061
>implying he doesn't use non-sequiturs to counter non-sequiturs
What's next, that attacks on character is a logical fallacy, faggot?
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>>101858400
why does everybody always want to fight?
:|
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>>101858503
Because combat is for the strong.
Also I was fucking around, don't take it to heart anon.
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>>101857567
Whatever you want to use is good, just remember the ultimate goal is to assimilate those sounds using your ears, your body and your mind, so that you can recall them at any given time in the future and use them as if they were an extension of yourself.
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I messed around with RVC the voice changing meme today, using my own extremely amateur singing as input. It's kind of fun. Here's a bad jazz Dio cover: https://voca.ro/1mDVTEFWboOY

It's hard to separate which artifacts are from RVC itself and which are my shitty mic and technique. It's definitely better than any other voice changer I've tried though.
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>>101860184
sounds really good actually aside from the obvious artifacts, is there an option for offline? i'm sure there's probably some technique to figure out for making it not freak out at times, it did go a bit crazy when you sustained a note

i saw the github repo but not sure which one you used
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>>101860184
>Dio
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>>101860426
https://github.com/RVC-Project/Retrieval-based-Voice-Conversion-WebUI is the one you want, and yes it's all offline.

For the track, I actually used this cuck "sunflower sparrow" VST that just wraps the open source project. It is more convenient since you can just drop it on a track (with 300ms of latency), but they want to charge for it and make you sign up an email account, so I can't really recommend it.

From the little I understand about how RVC works, it tries to retrieve the closest sample from the model audio to your input audio; so I can kind of see why the sustained notes sound like it's repeating the sample over and over. So likely there are better models for the style of singing I'm trying to do too.
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>>101860509
oh i thought it was this thing
https://github.com/w-okada/voice-changer/blob/master/README_en.md

that makes more sense about how it worked
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo2wmlobEBg
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>>101860617
oh, that project will probably work too; it's using the same RVC technique. Dunno if it has a way to put wav files through the model as conveniently as the one I linked though.
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>>101860656
neat, but also cucked.
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>>101860740
oof i downloaded this synthesizer v pro (another dreamtonics product) but i haven't tried it yet
https://www.reddit.com/r/VocaTorrent/comments/tz3ig4/comment/kcoupcy/

maybe antares auto-tune could be used with synthesizer v for further tweaking of formants and making it seem more human

i guess i'll work on instrumentals etc first and wait and see what can be done with vocals as there seems to be competing technologies and more to come

that's crazy though if pic related is legit that it's already better than a mediocre singer
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>antares auto-tune
or melodyne
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or he means the singers got old but they have stems from when they were younger that vocoflex could imitate
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>>101855757
>but WHERE is the VST version
It doesn't exist. You need either a VL1 / VL1m, a VL70m, an EX5 / EX5R, a Motif from that era that can take daughter cards, or one or two other options including an internal sound card (PCI IIRC). Then unless you wish to use the default resonant body / cavity / etc. settings that define the physical models, which are pre-programmed in, you have to obtain ancient software for classic Macs to create your own physical models, there are over 4000 parameters. You could make a harmonica as big as a submarine! etc.

But VL synths come with a large number of models of real instruments and some fun extra ones to play with.
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>>101855757
>but WHERE is the VST version..........................
buckle up
https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/pasp/pasp.html
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>>101861240
Yes, Yamaha teamed up with Stanford to make VL synthesis. Same way they teamed up with Stanford for FM.
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>>101861240
idgi where's the download link all i see is nerd shit?

captcha: 4m00
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>>101857886
>>101857962
I went to bed and just as I'm falling asleep I realize that there's another way that likely works better and with less cpu.
>instrument rack with round robin microtuning m4l device
>instead of instruments put a midi envelope in each chain
>Instead of gates put a Utility in each audio effect rack chain, and map the envelopes to them (on/off, mute, volume, etc)
It's so obvious now lol, I don't know why I went with the audio sidechain thing.
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>>101862091
i was reading what you said and was going to say the m4l envelope but figured you were averse to using it, was the obvious answer
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>>101861704
You can make physical models in csound. They don't render in real time though (depending on the complexity of the model?).
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>>101862091
my brain is shriveled up but i will make use of this eventually ty

>>101863259
>csound
why are you torturing me
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxV5J6UpR8Y
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>>101863292
csound is the basic computer musical instrument, just buckle down and learn it already, it's easy
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>>101863259
if you want physical modeling, FAUST is probably a better bet; there are some libraries for setting up mass spring systems and tubes and stuff like that.
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>>101863465
>just buckle down and learn it already, it's easy
I’ll put it on my to do list right after coming out and getting signed to warp thanks

>>101863511
I’m a /mu/ tourist I’m too dumb for this man fuck
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>>101863511
i'm a programmer and i've tried to learn faust. it's not easy and i doubt many people could bother learning or doing anything useful out of it. it's easier to learn enough c++ to smash together bits of open source code to do what you want in juce
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>>101863557
I made pure data externals of their classic filter emulations and several other small things (tonestack from dafx book: needed Faust to solve an equation system) that I could have complied as vst plugins. I'm not a programmer and it wasn't so difficult. Uni level in physics/chemistry or any other discipline using maths to model real world processes, however, is far more useful for DSP programming than just being a programmer IMO. You're probably right about juce tho but I can't tell from experience.
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>>101789718
I was about to say Cubase but you want to use a keyboard so NOT Cubase. Cubase is nice if you have your own instruments and microphones to record them. If you got a MIDI Keyboard you're pretty much out of luck, it basically doesn't have any sounds OOTB.
I'm currently looking for VST packs if anyone got any link.
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>>101865658
Most people don't use the sounds that the DAW came with, so that shouldn't really be a factor.

>vst packs
Stay away from those. They're compiled by random people and you can never know if they're trustworthy or not. Plus you're filling up your drive with a bunch of stuff that you might not even use.
Get the individual ones you need from audioz.
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>>101865658
>I'm currently looking for VST packs if anyone got any link.
the ones inside your daw
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>>101862138
In my defense it was very late lol
I guess the audio version can be more "solid" and less finnicky than using M4L, especially if you push it (like if you put an audio rate arpeggiator before the envelopes or something) but I'm not sure it would make any practical difference in this case.

>>101863292
If it even works lmao.
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>>101865779
>audioz
didn't know about it, thanks.

>>101865791
The DAW is Cubase. It basically doesn't have shit.
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ugh it's cringe
it would sound better with top tier production but still
https://vi-control.net/community/threads/virtual-singers-showcase-original-songs-only.136351/page-11

is it like impossible to learn how to sing like ed sheeran or is it easier than you'd think and it's just being gatekept
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>>101867011
There's probably an innate talent component but he still put in thousands of hours of practice.
https://youtu.be/flkjMuaKYQU
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>>101866482
>It basically doesn't have shit.
cubase is built around playing live instruments in or using the libraries that come in the pro version. if you aren't going to do either, just go pirate
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how do i sound like godflesh guys?
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>>101867011
Get singing lessons
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>>101869652
Underrated comment everyone in need will inevitably overlook
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Has anyone here messed with Renoise? I've been playing with the demo and I'm REALLY liking it.
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>>101870752
What do you like about it?
And what do you usually use?
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every time i dive into phase plant i realize i don't know shit man lol it's so deep :(
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every time i dive into the ass of my aunt i realize there's too much shit man lol it's so deep :(
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYkadjBh5sU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY-cuF2nrr8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eynDPoci9EE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg4NW1kjwrw
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>>101873844
oh...

my aunt is hot too man and t b h i blame like 20% of my perversions on living with her at the height of puberty

>>101873895
thanks!

how'd you find these?
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>>101874049
i searched melodyne on youtube
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>>101874049
Are you by any chance Indian?
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>>101874064
oh, do you sing? I use melodyne quite a bit

>>101874095
no?
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>>101870752
Been messing it since forever. I've been trying to move to something else, but I can't bring myself to it anymore. It's not that great for midi, but pretty solid for samples, unless you want to record entire tracks of voice, or instruments or something, then it's not.
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>>101874115
no i mainly want to do sound design, songwriting and prodoocing because i autismo'd my way into having endgame audio for listening and i feel like having good monitoring is one of the main advantages that pros have over amateurs but i don't really know people who can sing or record studio quality vocals so idk. most top tier songs have vocals or use vocals as the main part so maybe i could sing myself to stay as productive as possible and keep the profits to myself and avoid drama in case i would look like a creep trying to recruit young girls to sing for me.
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>>101795280
i use neither and havent for at least a decade
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I love weird obscure vsts with dogshit clunky interfaces (e. g. crystal synth, digitalfishphones plugins, airwindows, distocore shit). Any other recommendations?
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>>101874431
synplant
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>>101829009
this but unironically
its really just babby got its first piano roll
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How much of music theory is autistic overanalysis that misses the forest for the trees? How useful is it in practice? Does reducing music to a science help or hinder your ability to create? I suspect the answer is somewhere in the middle, but I'm curious what you all think.
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>>101875087
this is just a stupid way to procrastinate learning music theory
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>>101875087
It's definitely in the middle and probably further from autistic music theory than closer, and probably depends on genre (a complicated ragtime piano piece needing more music theory than industrial techno ect)
just picking a scale and putting down notes that sound good within that scale will get you soo far

more important than music theory is structure, an ear for good sounds, and mixing
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>>101875087
everything that doesnt come intuitively
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>>101875087
even casual listeners can pick up on if a song is overly cheesy or simplistic like hurr it's just power chords and people are into the edgy stuff like billie eilish so it helps a lot if you have a reasonable understanding like if you want to make techno you could try using the phrygian mode instead of starting with babby's first C major
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>>101876069
>even casual listeners can pick up on if a song is overly cheesy or simplistic like hurr it's just power chords
this is exactly why nobody takes you seriously
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>>101876188
many artist who were considered cool or even legendary like AC/DC are now thought of as the musical equivalent of junk food for the boomer generation
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nirvana and rage against the machine are basically the precursors to the cringe of limp bizkit and linkin park. limp bizkit has had a bit of a resurgence in an ironic way but if you like linkin park unironically you're expected to grow out of it eventually.
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>>101876494
>in an ironic way
idk why I thought you were somewhat with it when it came to what music was popular right now lol
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Whatever you do, don't make a new thread.
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>>101877544
New thread:
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