>Wikishttps://dmpdoc.neocities.org/https://web.archive.org/web/20220330105340/https://rentry.org/dmpdochttps://rentry.org/dmprockandroll/https://mu-sic-production.fandom.com/wiki//mu/sic_Production_Wiki>/g/ makes a 13th albumTheme: Music for your god. (divine music, your interpretation)Deadline: Midnight between August 31st and September 1st (UTC)Please post title suggestions>IMPORTANT! READ THIS BEFORE SUBMITTING:Upload the file somewhere and post the link here. If you want to update your track, make a new post.If possible use a lossless format and upload to a file-sharing service, not to a music site like Vocaroo or SoundCloud.Include the title of the song in the post. Don't rely on us reading it from the filename or tags.When you post the submission make sure that the song is clearly a submission for the album, otherwise it might get skipped.Songs that contain anything against YouTube's policies won't be uploaded on YT (but will still be added to the album).If your track's volume goes above 0 dB it will be clipped for the release.>Where can I hear the previous albums?https://rentry.org/dmpalbums-----A board dedicated to all aspects of music making and audio would be great for many reasons. Here's why:https://pastebin.com/ZHXhfRZwIf you like the idea, let 4chan know at https://4channel.org/feedback (under Board Suggestion)-----Previous: >>101786059
i was looking for random videos to post as a shitpost and idk what botanica is but switching from playing this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA_ebx-eM6kto this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjiR3_knM0Mis such a joke how much the sound quality difference is in different software synthsyou can still make analog sounds in serum or use something like cherry audio GX-80 without it sounding like some aliasing or intermodulation distortion bs
tf is this shit looks cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJRSm895Qgo
>>101877735https://vocaroo.com/14oo2EoBhhZk
>>101878056How do you make that sound? I remember a song from Wagon Christ, Cris Chana started using the same effect.
>>101878707It's the sound from the OP image.The Aphex Twin equation face (pic from google) pasted into the init Harmor patch with nothing changed, playing the notes you see in the little keyboard.
>>101878742>Aphex Twin equation faceThanks, tried it too. It came out a bit different, but still stuff of nightmares. Love it.
>>101878911>https://vocaroo.com/14oo2EoBhhZkMaybe the image is slightly different, or maybe it's because I'm using a super old version (as a VST)
The dsp56300 guys did it again, this time a Nord Lead 2X emuhttps://dsp56300.wordpress.com/2024/08/13/nodal-red-2x-demo-video/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyc0qZjfVzA
if i get a cheap midi keyboard with velocity but no aftertouch, mod wheel or faders can i still do the stuff in the video if i get a separate midi controller with faders like pic related?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUmStR0kWh4
so you should really try to get a keyboard with aftertouch? a youtube video described is as like a gimmick with triggering a separate effect but the wikipedia article makes it seem like you can use it for modulation/expressions like when playing a kontakt library violin
Cubase has become so fucking bloated and cluttered it has become unusable. Cubase 5 was peak.
or you could add the modulation/expressions separately with faders after you've already recorded the notes with the keyboard so aftertouch doesn't matter that much in that case?
>>101880165>>101880131It's very very niche. You can always add the modulation after the fact, so unless you must absolutely have the aftertouch modulation live (and you can't use the modwheel or a pedal which IMO is easier to use with your left foot that's not doing anything), it's not worth it.
>>101880250ty i'm thinking of getting a used m-audio keystation mini 32 mk3 for like $15 in my country to put on my desk and this guy gave it a 5 star rating in velocityhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ii9y0CHXXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sODIUBnjzP0
>>101877567https://vocaroo.com/1f5e6I14oyNkHaven't made any music in the past 6 months, came across this again today.I was never a good mixer. Enjoy though.
>>101881429Sound good, pretty much the same kinda trancey uplifting stuff I'm trying to make right now
Any tips for online collabs with people you haven't worked with before? I've only really done things with people I made music with irl before, trying to figure out how to manage a workflow and a minimal task/set of goals to work onGoing to use a daw we both have to send files between ourselves but it's not our main daws. In the past, I've done things with friends where we both bring an idea and set up a skeleton to swap back and forth with each other. Usually we like one more than the other and then take that to completion. Just not sure how to deal with someone who's never collabed before and gets in their own head solo2024 and still no musicxml for daw projects
>>101881815>musicxml for daw projectsthere's https://github.com/bitwig/dawproject now but it's only supported by shitwig and studio one AFAIK.
>>101881895Yeah, aware of that but neither of us use either. Something like CLAP can take off but doubtful that will
One word:Hive Two
>>101883866Why?
>>101885485low cpu usage seems to be a major point in their sales pitch. but i think cpu usage shouldn't be the limiting factor with a modern computer and ableton track freeze. i haven't listened to demos or evaluated its features yet.
see, i'm not trolling, there is some bullshit going on with a lot of software synths
>>101879102aside from the gui, anything improved over the reigning champ synth1?
>site shits the bed>when its finally working again, posting resumes as if nothing had happeneddead internet
>>101883866I never really understood its popularity. I prefer synthmaster and rapid, both cheaper and also low CPU. Then again, I'm not that great at creating sounds, so maybe I've just not found the magic.
FUCK I missed ithttps://www.routledge.com/Dance-Music-Manual/Snoman/p/book/9781032646787https://audioz.download/tutorials/260737-download_dance-music-manual-5th-edition.html
>>101885696There are multiple threads about it. There's no reason to discuss it in every random thread that has nothing to do with it.
Bump
>whole thread just the same idiot shitting out promoted links and ads for VSTs and Ableton again/dmp/ is 100% dead. OTOH, on X, there are actual music communities for producers where you can chat with a large number of actual musicians.Once again, Google jannies choose to ruin 4chan, haughtily thinking that this is the only place people can go to for music discussions.
>>101889931Fuck off Elon, I'm not touching your dumpster fire website
>>1018899314chan has never been good for audio discussion and networking with producers/musiciansTwitter isn't good for it either
>>101890221I have chatted up Bogdan and VHS Head just this week.
>>101885743>cheaperYou pay for software?>low CPUSo get a faster computer, what's the matter, are you poor?
>$600 cpu to run 5 instances of a synth
Is anybody else working on the 13th divine inspired album?Am I the only one who made something?
>>101891275I thought /g/ of all places would understand than a faster CPU is not always better for music production and is rarely the actual bottleneck causing latency issues. Realtime performance is what actually matters. Many plugins are badly coded, causing unnecessary system interruptions that add latency regardless of CPU performance. You can verify this yourself by keeping an eye on CPU utilization, you'll likely notice that most of the problem plugins causing latency issues still exhibit low CPU utilization across all cores. You aren't rendering video where frametime does not matter during the render, you're rendering realtime audio that needs to be heard while you work on the project. Even systems with a top-end CPU can run into issues with realtime performance for audio production, as audio production is one of the only fields where realtime performance actually matters, and CPUs/mobos are not really optimized for it.
hello music nerds i am stranger to this place but i challenge those who darehere are some samples, the vocaroo is ai generated using random words from http://www.cypherspace.org/rsa/spook.htmlhttps://voca.ro/15KkX68dlT7Ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moXX8lbnmHsplease remix and post results
>>101891619Latency is a separate problem from a plugin being heavy on the cpu.Both can be significant in their own way. For example, a low-cpu high-latency effect can reduce how "real time" what you're doing feels, but a low-latency high-cpu synth will max out your dsp on certain patches, and you'll have to freeze/bounce before continuing, as you won't be able to run many instances of it unless you upgrade your cpu (or use a more efficient plugin that's sufficiently similar).
>>101891610I have two half-finished tracks at the moment
>>101891275>you pay for softwareyou don't? what are you, poor?
>>101891828>a low-latency high-cpu synthI don't believe such a thing exists. If a plugin has maxed out your DSP than it is by definition a high-latency plugin. DSP is not a measurement of overall CPU utilization, it is a measurement specific to the realtime (audio) processing, typically in the context of the audio buffer of your DAW realtime render, at least in the DAWs that I'm familiar with. Most DAWs let you view CPU usage and DSP separately somewhere, and in my experience it is very rare for CPU usage to get very high even in large projects unless you've done something silly or are using a buggy plugin. I always far sooner run into DSP latency issues long before any CPU usage limitations.>a low-cpu high-latency effect can reduce how "real time" what you're doing feelsIt'll result in stutters or crackling/pops in the audio, or cutouts and silence in the audio in very severe cases. This is because the samples in the audio buffer (as per the project sample rate) will not render properly, resulting in intermittent garbled data being heard -OR- samples being skipped in the audio buffer (depending on the DAW, your hardware, and other factors). You can try juggling around the buffer size or sample rate to see what works best - usually a higher buffer size is easier for realtime processing to keep up with, but it is not always that simple. Sometimes, you'll have no choice but to freeze tracks.An audio interface with onboard DSP may help if your system regularly has poor realtime performance that you can't reduce any further, but these are generally expensive and often have their own limitations or proprietary bullshit.You can try troubleshooting your system realtime processing on Windows using a DPC checker to measure latency, then trying different hardware and drivers to see what works best.
>>101892405this shouldn't be such a big issue that you can't use normal plugins like serum or kontakt libraries, you can get a powerful 6 core ryzen cpu for less than $200 (while not having dozens of cores, you get plenty of single core performance), you can tweak memory performance, and use an M.2 SSD (it's absolutely daft to use a HDD in this day and age since it's really slow and makes a lot of noise anyway), on a desktop computer you need to set it up properly with good cooling and motherboard power limits to prevent throttling and perhaps do manual overclocking (asrock and asus motherboard can switch dynamically between PBO in lightly threaded tasks and manual OC in all-core tasks), it might be that you need a better audio interface or soundcard but you could even get a FiiO dongle or something like that if it's just for IEMs/headphones, someone who doesn't want to tinker with these things could just get a mac m1 and be done with it
>>101892405>If a plugin has maxed out your DSP than it is by definition a high-latency pluginYou're arguing about the semantics of the word latency.You know very well that latency caused by a process taking longer than real time without maxing out the cpu meter (what we normally call latency) is different than the cpu being maxed out and causing dropouts and latency as a result.>DSP is not a measurement of overall CPU utilizationMore semantics.>and in my experience it is very rare for CPU usage to get very high even in large projects unless you've done something silly or are using a buggy plugin.Try making an entire song with a heavy synth like Diva, or do any sound design that requires high voice counts.This argument makes zero sense. Sure you can just make types of music that don't require this kind of sound design, but what if you want to do them?Your personal experience is meaningless.>It'll result in stutters or crackling/pops in the audio, or cutouts and silence in the audio in very severe cases. This is because the samples in the audio buffer (as per the project sample rate) will not render properly, resulting in intermittent garbled data being heard -OR- samples being skipped in the audio buffer (depending on the DAW, your hardware, and other factors). You can try juggling around the buffer size or sample rate to see what works best - usually a higher buffer size is easier for realtime processing to keep up with, but it is not always that simple. Sometimes, you'll have no choice but to freeze tracksYes? That's literally what I'm talking about.Am I arguing with a bot?>>101892766Everything is relative.A cpu that one person will never max out is another person's constant bouncing nightmare.It entirely depends on what you do with it.
>>101892766Sometimes the issue is affected by drivers or hardware. Some motherboards have been known to have better or worse DPC latency due to various factors. By far the most common culprit are GPU-related system interruptions, either as a result of the GPU's driver or the PCIe slot of the board itself creating additional latency which in turn results in longer system interruption time. Like I said before, being bottlenecked by CPU utilization itself is very rare in my experience but YMMV based on what you use as >>101892913 says. Laptops also generally have much worse DPC latency compared to equivalent desktop hardware.There have been cases where people have issues with a NVME drive due to a mobo's m.2, but have a SATA SSD that works fine. Why? who the hell knows, you'd have to contact the manufacturer to find that out. Point is, if you have latency problems (and your CPU usage is fine) it may take some trial and error by using a DPC checker to narrow things down. If all else fails, your last resort is to build a new PC and/or get an external audio interface with DSP built-in.>>101892913>Am I arguing with a bot?I wasn't arguing, I wanted to elaborate with more detailed information for anyone reading the thread. I've never seen this topic brought up in /dmp/ before and with the threads being dogshit lately I figured this was worth talking about.Although, a high-cpu synth would inherently result in high DSP usage (and therefore high latency) so I am not sure what hypothetical you were talking about there, which is why I talked about DSP for a bit.
>>101892405>Most DAWs let you view CPU usage and DSP separately somewhereI've never seen a "DSP" usage meter, unless you have a standalone unit running proprietary shit? DSP is CPU, this doesn't make any sense how they're separate when It's all operating on buffers
>>101893719I don't know every DAW but I'd imagine they must show this info somewhere even if it may be labelled differently at times. In Cubase, the Audio Performance window shows real-time processing, where the average load is equivalent to DSP. In Propellerheads Reason, DSP usage is shown on the bottom right. In Ableton Live, a CPU Meter is shown but this is actually DSP/realtime processing and not the total CPU load of Ableton Live (see https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019151379-Live-s-CPU-Meter), but I may be mixing that up with a different DAW that had this mislabelled. DSP is usually used as the term for real-time (audio) processing specifically (as per the DAW's audio buffer), as opposed to CPU usage being the overall usage of CPU by the DAW or plugins. In short, there is a difference. I don't know how FL Studio shows this, and can't comment on it or other DAWs. Some DAWs not being entirely clear on what their processing stats really mean may be part of why there's so much confusion on this topic, but it's probably in the manual somewhere for whatever DAW you use. Hell, I don't claim to be an expert on this topic and it's possible I got certain details wrong, but as I said I never see this topic brought up - even /g/ never talks about it. Kind of hoping some anon knows more about this topic in-depth.Here's a decent explanation on YT about DSP meters:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6vpRrav4qsIn sumary: DSP / realtime processing meters indicate the time taken by the audio buffer, not the CPU utilization of your DAW, but check the manual to be sure.
>>101894358>but I may be mixing that up with a different DAW that had this mislabelledignore that part, I looked up the source while I was still typing this reply
>>101894358>Live's CPU Meter value is not the same as the percentage of overall system CPU used by Live shown in macOS Activity Monitor or Windows Task Manager.No shit? Who has ever thought this was the same as overall CPU usage
>>101894358>uses cubase>wonders why no one else sperges about audio latency
>>101893125>I wanted to elaborate with more detailed information for anyone reading the thread. I've never seen this topic brought up in /dmp/ before and with the threads being dogshit lately I figured this was worth talking about.Fair enough>Although, a high-cpu synth would inherently result in high DSP usage (and therefore high latency) so I am not sure what hypothetical you were talking about there, which is why I talked about DSP for a bit.The context is (paraphrased obviously):>"who cares if a synth is light on the cpu, just get a better cpu">"latency isn't really a cpu problem">"they're two different problems"My point is that, even if it's not the only factor (you mention dpc latency), buying a better cpu WILL impact what you can do when doing sound design, and consequently, the choice of synth.
>>101894518They mean the usage of just Ableton Live itself, it's worded strangely.CPU Meter shows the audio buffer time %.It does not show the CPU utilization of Ableton Live.>>101894524lol I only started using Cubase recently, I learnt about the audio buffer before then but I am NOT an audio engineer.>>101894579>buying a better cpu WILL impact what you can do when doing sound design, and consequently, the choice of synth.Okay, that's fair. Although I wonder just how many instances of a CPU-hungry synth (like Diva mentioned earlier) you'd need to be using all in realtime? At some point it makes more sense to freeze/render-in-place. Then again, I'm not into sound design as much anyway.
>>101894709>CPU Meter shows the audio buffer time %.>It does not show the CPU utilization of Ableton Live.Yes, this is obvious and no one has every questioned this
>>101894917Another anon ITT seemed confused about it
>>101894917and it's still related to cpu performance
fucking gaslighters i went from this u-he re-pro 5 demo to prophet 5 and the prophet 5 instantly sounds a lot clearer. you don't have to be a synth nerd to realize that things like this make a difference especially when layering tracks so you're getting mud on top of mud like in a lot of the early bedroom produced digital EDM.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0Atx0U20Uwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKywtBNFI0s
>>101895094everybody knows synths vary in quality you fucking retard, nobody is gaslighting youit doesn't matter because you're not even writing songs and what synth you use is 100% not your bottle neck even if you were
>>101894709>Although I wonder just how many instances of a CPU-hungry synth (like Diva mentioned earlier) you'd need to be using all in realtime?If you're working on the sounds one at a time, sure, freezing them after you're done and moving on to the next can be an ok compromise (obviously if you have the option of running everything live, that's preferable), but if you're going back and forth across multiple patches (like if you're layering stuff or if the various instruments have to work together in some way) it can be a problem.If you're experimenting with sound design, certain things can require prohibitive amounts of parallel stuff running simultaneously, even in a single patch.In additive synthesis for example, if the number of partials is too low the sound quality can be severely impacted, since you're literally going to miss the higher frequencies (it gets more significant the lower the notes you're playing).One of my M4L additive effects maxes out my CPU with a single instance, well before it reaches a sufficient number of partials, so I have to use it in a sort of lowpassed "low quality" mode, and only increase the partials when rendering, which is far from ideal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn07AMCfaAIcringe video, the illusion didn't fool me and the top voted comments also didn't get fooled
>>101895172He (the character he's larping as) says that he has audiophile listening equipment and a fine audiophile ear that's able to discern the finer nuances of high quality audio, so he's looking to leverage that as his main strength in his pursuit of music production success.This has led him to obsess over minute bullshit like which synth is "cleaner", and which successful songs don't sound as pristine as you would expect from that level of success (he somehow doesn't realize how this negates his whole thing lmao, and completely ignores how anyone can pay to make music in professional studios with trained engineers and very few of them see any success).He then spends his time arguing against imaginary people saying things that disagree with him and posts random comments from YouTube or Reddit as his appeal to authority to support his thoughts.He does this for many hours a day, but hasn't even tried using a tiny bit of his time to make any music. He may not even have a daw installed.There are only two scenarios in which someone could do/say any of this:>troll (most likely)>actual severe mental illnessEither way the only thing that makes sense to do is to ignore him.There's no point in talking to a troll or to someone so fucked in the head that his posts are virtually indistinguishable from bait.
>>101895634>t. fl studio sytrus newfagimagine simping this hard for a 20+ year old soft synth lmao>There are plug-in instrument software emulations of the CS-80 for usage in digital audio workstation, music sequencer, and other software which supports the plug-in formats that these instruments were implemented and released in: the "CS-80 V" from Arturia[5] which was released in 2003, the "ME80" from memorymoon which was released in 2009, and the GX-80, which is a CS-80 emulation combined with its predecessor the GX-1, from Cherry Audio which was released in 2022.[6]
See?
>>101895752you're asshurt and doing mental gymnastics to defend your choice to use fl studio with stock plugins and random computers and speakers that you've blogposted about and you can't hear the quality differences for yourself like you can't appreciate the sound at 3 minutes so you just call me a troll when you could just ignore my posts instead of coping and seething that sytrus is supposedly every bit as good as serum etchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbnLqOI1yQA
avicii used fl studio thoughever
for instance in hiphop it's more about rapping and lyricism, the beats and samples don't have to be bleeding edge if you're not trying to be a top tier star like kanye (in his prime) or travis scott, but you shouldn't underestimate how many people are competing with you trying to make beats to sell to rappers or become rappers themselves, your stuff needs to be drastically better than 99% of the vocaroos in /prod/
>>101895952i don't even like most of his music, i was just asking about what made him successful but there's not a whole lot of relevance to how things look in 2024 just like with mozart/bach/beethoventhis song is cute but is carried by rita ora's singing, the lead synth could've had a bit more bite to ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ3XgMKAgxc
these have a scratchy reverb kind of sound that is caused by aliasing or intermodulation distortion, it's the type of sound that even in those days would make you think you were listening to a low quality stream or mp3 rip, or that your speakers were low quality, you don't hear it in modern mainstream songshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ovdm2yX4MAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYrZsH32rF8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dFz10R529g
>>101896110>the lead synth could've had a bit more bite to ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JeC07S0gJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjUTXkeTANchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTJncWndUB8
>>101895634>>troll (most likely)honestly I didn't think so at first but with the history of trolls this general has attracted, and how they're always so stupid in a specifically tailored way...i'm starting to believe
>>101879102We are so back.
>>101896321It's always impossible to be completely sure of either option on this website. There are just so many of both types that even if it really looks like it's A, there's always the possibility that it's just a really deranged B.
Yes I'm downloading sample pack CD rips, and no you can't stop me
6:50https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY079oVS3Nc
>>101880132skill issue
>>101894524KEK
This is how I make my music...left hand on my dick, right hand operating the daw, second monitor displaying underage anime girls. This is how the magic happens
would you rather have 25 fullsize semi-weighted keys than 32 mini keys? is it cucked to only have 25 keys? just for midi sequencing, not trying to play like mozart.
it's spring loaded synth action not semi-weighted but i'm still wonderingmaybe fullsize piano style keys will feel like they take up a needless amount of space on my desk idk. but if they play better then so be it.
fucking yikes lol why can't these manufacturers get their shit togetherhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkpYp-bu6Ic
>>101898072Why in fuck's name is he bending his pointer finger back? Just keep it flat. Jesus.Arturia Keystep 37 is the answer.Those M-Audio minikeys look like garbo.
>>101898174>>101898316don't bother if the keybed is cheap crap
For me it's the classic. She's never steered me wrong
>>101898427this but with this
>>101898513
>>101898427ok cool ty anon looks like i can get a reasonably priced keystation 49 in my country. seems like it might be too awkwardly sized to keep on my desk 24/7 though.maybe something like this could be worth 20 bucks for more convenient use at the computer in addition to a larger keyboard? i can't find much info on it though, maybe it's just more cucked and not preferable over the keystation mini 32.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf6zd5wde1Mhttps://www.amazon.com/IK-Multimedia-iRig-Keys-SampleTank/dp/B016PWMHLQ
>>101881723I'd be happy to listen to some of your music. Post a vocaroo!
maybe a 37-49-61 key would be nicer for serious use but the 25 key can just sit anywhere like off to the side and angled toward me instead of more parallel to the desk for more casual sequencing
fukken keylets, when will they learn
Hi guys game dev here. Decided to try to learn how to DAW last week to make music for my game i know nothing about music this is like hell but worse. I have retreated into FastTracker II, having determined anything fancier than a tracker is beyond me, and now that i have a program i can actually use, i have run into the minor hurdle of not knowing anything about composing. This was a mistake.
>>101899018Alright, I'll post just the best snippet of what I'm currently working on since you asked, I went on a big trance listening bender about a month ago because I never really explored the genre ever, it inspired me to make some of my ownhttps://vocaroo.com/1hfusZrA9r5g
>>101899314>FastTracker IIBased. As much as I love and like to romanticize trackers, I'm not sure if this would be the best approach for you.I just installed Ableton Live Lite on Saturday and hope to start learning it this coming weekend. :3What kind of game music are you aiming for? Any examples that you would like to emulate?>>101899359Very nice.That one sound is too strongly associated with Sandstorm in my mind -- I'd be careful with that.
>>101899314Most of music is monkey see monkey doJust listen to a lot of tracker music and copy it, pic a random major or minor scale, and try to imitate what you heardThe Gameboy Color Grimace game McDonald's made last year has a pretty sick pretty OSThttps://youtu.be/k09RyN9KdTY&t=1635sThis is probably my favorite tracker thing everhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5fcSr2PTm4but like that other guy said, trackers are actually not a good start. They are very cumbersome and require a lot of autism to uselots of free chiptune vsts you could use in a DAW and much more easily write on a piano roll, so much better:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0EyiGOP3Oc
>>101898657>massaging her feet while she produces and asks me every few minutes if it's sounding good
>>101899255ok so i guess the workflow is clunky if you want to listen to chords and melodies at the same time? but a redditor said even a 49 isn't great for two-handed playing.
>>101898513Most fun peripheral I ever had.
>>101899695Bro, that Grimace OST is bangin'All this chiptune talk reminded me that I bought Lovely Composer awhile ago but never used it; just wanted to support the dev.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGC8FME-3WAIt blows my mind that people make such great music with these simple tools.
but with a fullsize keyboard it would still be hassle to some extent setting things up in your DAW like if you wanted a different voice for the bass notes. using a babby size keyboard can be worked around to some extent too.
>>101900021Exactly, I really think limitations help drive creativity
>>101877567I'll be honest. I keep a Windows 10 installation for these two plugins to run in Reaper- AddictiveDrums2- IzotopeOne has amazing drums that can be configured so so so fucking easily. The other is amazing with default presets.Anyone else like this?I've tried the music Linux distro and they're ok. Ardour is ok but sucks at midi.Mostly make midwest emo / math rock, and really only have guitar equipment so the fake drums are such a godsend.
>>101899563>That one sound is too strongly associated with Sandstorm in my mind -- I'd be careful with that.yes for example i wouldn't do a straight copy of ed sheeran's sounds, just seems like it would be cringe
i mean i think his songs sound great but then to do a different song with the same sound might be awkward
a little cuck keyboard seems to suit my preferences, prioritizing computer ergonomics over piano type of playing and leaving room for an orchestral expression controller and whatnot. i'll probably end up with several keyboards though especially if i find some proper bargain deals.
>>101891619Latency issues are down to USB soundcards. Stop buying them. Buy PCIe cards with good ASIO drivers. I can run full projects with 256k buffers which works out 3-4ms latency with PCIe. With a USB soundcard that'd be something like 20ms latency. If your VST is causing latency then you need a faster core CPU, or the VST isn't designed for realtime use - ie , Soothe, Ozone etc I guaranty you 90% of the worlds latency issues would vanish if people just got shut of their shit USB interfaces.
>>101899695>>101899563Sorry, should have mentioned, like a decade ago i did a lot of transcription (read: not composition) of music onto the gameboy for a project, so i know trackers really well, i can use them pretty naturally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJwF61mjWuQ
>>101896954There's nothing I can't do in Cubase. Fuck, I even taught people in Cubase. Still, it has become unergonomic as fuck, especially the mixer. Also still can't undo VSTi shit.
>>101901415>Latency issues are down to USB soundcards*laughs in rme*
You don't actually need perfect pitch to figure out the sound Rick was looking for. Relative pitch is sufficient. The key is that a particular note in a scale is suddenly sharped, creating what in classical music theory is called a "false relation". That can happen in a scale built on any of the 12 pitches. In the Metheny song it's a B-flat raised to a B-natural. But the whole thing can be transposed to any other key and it will be the same musical effect. The fact that Pat Metheny created it with B-flat and B-natural is probably due to how the notes arise from the finger position on a guitar with that particular tuning. As Rick said, you can't play that chord on an ordinatily-tuned guitar.It's hard to put this into words, but I could show it on a piano.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjfWi5UGXp8
so in absynth there's a "mutate" function where you can select/exempt parameters from the main oscillator section to randomize-i propose this be added to the list of mandatory features in every synth, in addtition to arrows on every selectable parameter (don't make me open a list to shuffle through a menu to pick every filter type or distortion algorithm!!!) and making it illegal to only have 4 fucking macrosit is a make effects type morning and phase plant is rewiring my brain in the worst way
>>101908084That Max device that was linked a week or so ago can do that for parameters that can be automated.
>>101908267suggoi :o
>>101908084>>101908267This one:https://youtu.be/4y8y83dO4c8Kinda like the Synplant 1 concept but for anything in Ableton
>>101908084>>101908301https://audioz.download/samples/presets/261471-download_dillon-bastan-natural-selection-p-v100-m4l-amxd-gta.htmlhttps://audioz.download/samples/presets/261472-download_dillon-bastan-natural-selection-s-v101-m4l-amxd-gta.html
I want to automate a parameter with a clip envelope in Ableton.I have this MIDI track and am sending its data to the audio track. I have mapped the parameter of the device (a VST plugin) to CC 20. I am manipulating the CC20 data inside the MIDI clip, but it's not affecting the device on the audio track.Is there a way to achieve this? I am currently trying also the approach where I use an empty audio clip inside the audio track itself, but I thought this MIDI clip way was considered better?
>>101908648Mapping it on the audio track clip doesn't work, because I cannot monitor it while the clip with the automation is playing.
>>101906816simple solution: play them on higher registers, and prove fourier series/theoreum applied to things like additive synthesis correct once againthe higher you go, the less dissonants/irrational ratios there are, when you hold the additive nature (linear curve) of overtones against the exponential curve of octaves (always *2 the frequency), it will logically converge into more "consonant" options the further you go up, the frequency ratios become more rationalplaying a C, D and Eon the same octave all at the same time isn't that dissonant anymore once you travel into the 6th octave and up, at some point at the edge of what we still perceive as musical notes from an instrument, you can even start sneaking in half-steps and still be somewhat "consonant", but you need to go up so high to really get there, it loses its musical usability before it converges that closely across the boardalso, inversions, inverting chords like making a perfect 5th a 4th inversion and make it less consonant, you can reverse apply the priciple of inversions/voicing to make them a bit more consonant depending on the situation tooof course with the correct musical context priming you for the chord, you can make dirty sound exactly what is required, as a metal guitarist i shit out flat 5ths and diminshied every day too :Dbut i was merely covering the chord in isolation
>>101908648Are you sure that the plugin supports midi cc messages?Does it work if it's on the same midi track?Is it possible to just automate the parameter the normal way?
>>101908084absynth had great design and forum nerds shat on it regularly but hindsight is 20/20
>>101909166>>101908648>>101908835I have figured it out.The VST plugin supports MIDI CC messages. I was on the right track. The issue was mapping the parameter inside the plugin to MIDI. There's a "learn" feature inside the plugin, no way to manually assign it to a fixed value. I had to start playing the MIDI clip with the CC messages and then click on learn inside the plugin. Apparently that set it up correctly. Before that, I was assigning the MIDI CC inside of Ableton's parameter view. Apparently that's no the same.Now I can get my guitar to sound arpeggio-like, like in Map of the Problematique by Muse:https://vocaroo.com/1fQBGOU4pL5a
>>101909478>great designlike... the actual sounds, for sure, and i'll even say the meta of the interface is great *in a way* (that's obviously what most people hate about it) but the specifics of how you actually interact with the interface are so fucking terrible, I don't blame anybody for not using it for that alone; I certainly avoid it despite doing at least a little something granular almost every day.I don't believe you that it was generally disliked back in the day though lol
>>101909488Glad it worked out
>music for your godWell. It so happens I just put up a 3-track single in honor of Inanna-Ishtar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MgvmbpofFs&list=PLtSaKxMyR3rSeb6TSAgwKnbD4cEId3X7eBandcamp d/l: https://bardicmechanism.bandcamp.com/album/her-voiceFree to download, mix, play and whatnot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9JorOfWqM0
>>101909735sneed
>>101909598it used to function as a standalone windows app, similar to how paulstretch used to be
>>101891733anyone anything?
>>101911446fuck off. no requests and no ai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdJDjX0-huQ
>>101900702Guess no one else has these issues.
>>101913398Well, looks like most of these fags use Ableton anyway, try asking in /mu/
>>101900702>Mostly make midwest emo / math rockidk what that is but sounds hilarious
>>101913478>midwest emo / math rock>idk what that isb r u h
>>101913398what are the issues? i use ezdrummer 3 and windows with ableton and reaper, i'd use linux if it didn't suck ass.
>>101901415No one makes pci interfaces anymore except for those RME guys and fuck if I'm buying a soundcard for a couple grand as if you're spending that much you could get a Mac and have class compliance with no need for a shitty asio driver.
>>101913954Cool glad I wasn't the only one. Debating using Linux with Superior Drummer 2 but the sample pack is like 100 fucking gigs to torrent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuXh3KuWsj8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D8OJxZL7qU
When that awkward part at the end of your project where you randomly drag rejected bits and your automation lanes all reset accidentally sounds better than the song itself lolhttps://vocaroo.com/19lCSsfGp0Xe
