OP being a faggot and parroting misinformation again and again.

>CPU
Web browsing: 5600G
Gaming: 7600, 7800X3D
Workstation: 7900X, 7950X
Avoid 12th/13th/14th gen Intel.
WARNING 12th/13th/14th gen owners: Use a contact frame and manually undervolt to prevent further degradation. New BIOS does NOT fix the overvolting.

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its over, so joever. farewell amdfags

>>101996772
>Contact frame
What's this paranoia about?

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it's about how your mother dropped you on the head when you were a baby and your brain turned into picrel

>>101996920
Crysis, tessellation hidden in map, etc etc, typical nvidia tricks but modern.

gonna waitchad a bit longer..

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>>101996978
... and i dont care. couldnt literally cope harder. we have been saying that nvidia is on top.
incomparable diff.

>>101996945
>retard with an nh d15 drops his system
And this is my problem because?

>>101997020
>CPU utilization under 20% for both
let me guess, another shittily unoptimized UE4/5 game? skip

>>101996945
Is this why Intel fanboys are such braindead subhuman niggers with a severe lack of self-awareness?

>>101997056
mmmm more copium.

>>101997020
>couldnt literally cope harder
Yes, you could cope harder.

>>101997056
it's a single player game with like 2 or 3 enemies at any given time
you aren't going to load down the cpu

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>>101997071
do intel CPUs bend and fry because its users are retarded, or are intel users retarded because their CPUs bend and fry?
food for thought.

>>101997104
we're winning. what could i cope about lmfao

>>101997042
pic sums up /pcbg/ pretty well

>>101997135
Post your portfolio, /biz/ faggot. How much did you invest in nvda?

I am such a retarded brown jeet I spend all day shilling overpriced NVIDIA cards on a Hmongian woodworking forum

>>101997020
digital foundry said themselves that wukong is using a nvidia specialized build of unreal engine 5. its meant to run like shit on amd just like portal rtx.

what kind of loser spends $6000 on a PC to play unreal engine slop that nobody will talk about a month from now

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My RAM is dying. The slightest tap to my PC and it freezes.
I tried some spare shitty 1600mhz DDR4 I had lying around and the problem stops so I know it's my RAM.
Is this considered good for DDR4 these days?
I have no RGB in my PC, but this RGB shit is cheaper than the rest, and I figure the Aura settings in the BIOS can keep it shut off.

>>101997264
what CPU and motherboard?

>>101997302
i5-12400
Asus B660M-A D4

>>101997315
>trash
>trash
just sell them and buy AM5

>>101997071
>>101997117
>too afraid to even rebuttle that someone dropped their system

>>101997215
idk, how do we go about optimizing comfyui? or the libraries?

>>101997342
oops, wrong thread

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>>101997341
good morning sir

>>101997335
I just built this PC like 3 years ago. It's got to last at least 7 more. I'm already annoyed about the RAM, but I should've known it was fucked when it had been returned to Micro Center 4 times before I bought it for 75% off.

>>101997363
you were a retard 3 years ago and it's evident you are still a retard now

>>101997398
AM5 didn't even exist in 2021. It wasn't an option. I built the best budget PC I could for the time/

>>101997411
look where that budget got you

>>101997411
A 5800X3D was 1000x better than any SHITel chip you fucking dunce. You're a retard. Just buy whatever.

>>101997433
Yes, well I was pissed about my AMD FX PC literally blowing itself up at the time and having to prematurely build a new PC, so I cut some corners to save money and swore to never buy AMD ever again.

>>101997450
see >>101997398

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>>101997450
Your CPU is literally guaranteed to be dead in less than 2 years. Fucking retard.

>>101997529
>12400
>13th and 14th gen
Can you really be calling others retarded when you can't even count?

>>101997315
>B660
>Locked i5
Caps out at 3200 (realistically). Just buy the cheapest 3200C16 kit and hope it is the RAM.

>>101997264
>>101997315
>The slightest tap to my PC and it freezes
lmao that's a new one
>Is this considered good for DDR4 these days?
yeah pretty good, those timings aren't amazing and since you have a non-K chip you should maybe consider getting a 3600C16 kit instead

>>101997582
That's what I have now, G.Skill Rip Jaws 3200/cl16. Got it for $70 back in 2021, down from like $200 because it'd been returned so much.
I figure if I have to replace it, I could at least go for a small upgrade, but I guess if not, then 3200 it is.

>>101997223
premium amd copium

>>101997617
>lmao that's a new one
Seriously, I couldn't believe it myself. I accidentally kicked my PC under my desk and it froze. I booted it back up and tapped the front and it froze again.
Reseated the RAM, still happened.
Replaced the RAM, it no longer happens, even after giving it the hardest smacks I could.
Now I just need decent RAM again instead of this 4GB of 1600mhz crap.

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>bought the last cheapest 2x16 cl36 6000mhz expo ram
NOT IN STOCK, it's safely stored in my rectum now.

>>101996710
>vtumor

>>101997619
Intel locked the SA voltage on (locked) 12th gen and later CPUs so getting higher speeds to run is tricky. Also just not generally worth it because you're not trying to squeeze out 300FPS with that rig.

>>101996710
When’s the best time to buy a graphics card. Running a 2070 and have no budget issues but do want to get in on the next major tech leap instead of the best of the old. Nvidia only

>>101997673
If money is no issue then buy the halo card on launch day (so ~Q1 2025).

>>101997694
Perf thanks.

>>101996710
>ATX: Phanteks XT PRO(ULTRA), Montech AIR 903 Base/MAX, Antec C5, Lian Li Lancool 216/III
Shit recommendations, they don't have dust filters.

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>your Intel system is gonna die any day now says the amd fag
so when is it?

>>101997822
how much money did you spend on your machine?

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>>101996710
Is a 4080 S really overkill for a 1080p 144hz setup?
I kinda don't mind going back to 60 frames in a few years, thats why I kinda want to buy something stupid powerful that can last me atleast a decade at 1080p and 60fps.

>>101997923
A 4080S can only handle Black Myth Wukong at 50-60fps at 1080p, so no, it's not overkill.

>>101997923
Do it anon. Just be aware your CPU will be your bottleneck for a long while

>>101997932
>>101997941
Well I'm not buying a 4090 for 1080p.
What kind of CPU should I use then?
I was thinking about some Intel 12th gen, but I know very little about their processors.

Recommended specs for 1080p 240+ fps (multiplayer games on lowest settings)?
i'm talking hardcore

>>101997959
7800X3D is the best on the market, I’m assuming you’re building from scratch.

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>>101996710
Imagine being retarded enough to spend more than $300 on a Radeon GPU

>>101998065
>multiplayer games
Depends on the game. Valerant will hit that on pretty much anything half decent

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>>101998117
rt is joke though. this is glorious rt, and on the right is nvidia. Notice anything about the largest rock in the water?

>>101998113
Yeah thanks.

>>101998166
Looks perfect. Cope much? Also, why are you cropping out the FPS? Let everyone see how AMD has inferior RT **AND** FPS.

>>101998166
>the state of amdfags

>>101998249
>RT **AND** FPS.
and graphics, the shadows are literally baked in lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4PCJbuJlyY

all this shilling and I still wouldn't buy an nvidia card

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>>101998249
>Looks perfect. Cope much?
I lied (accidentally, I plead). Now see rt on.

https://youtu.be/n4PCJbuJlyY?t=470
watch the video ^

>>101997647
try cleaning the contacts of the old RAM with alcohol

i sold my 14900K setup at a higher price than MSRP to an Intel fanboy (aka a drooling retard) and bought an AM5 setup with a 7950X instead

>>101997856
Don't have an exact figure, it's built up over the years.
It's probably less than what someone would build an equivalent system for if they just bought retail.
All storage was basically half off, the 7.7tb NVMe was $450 at a time when an QVO was like $900, it's actually appreciated in value since.
Mobo was $200 as it's Z690, etc

how I spend on things is generally motivated by how much I like something, in some cases what I like is also cheaper but not necessarily because it's cheap.

I expect my 14900k will be fine long term, it runs at 1.4v at 6ghz

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>>101998430
kinda based

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>>101997923
>1080p
1080p is a retarded resolution at this point. Even the poorfags should be on 1440p with HDR, as you can get a decent monitor with those specs for under $300. 1440p DLSS Quality and 1080p DLAA cost the same in terms of performance, and the 1440p image quality is substantially better.

>>101997249
Dumbest post ITT, if we ignore the Radeonfriends
That's exactly why you spend $6000 on a PC

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My new case kinda sucks, but my old case sucked more. This is the best cable management I could do with it.

>>101998430
>shit that never happened
>the post

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>>101998480
Behold! the magical black pyramid of rtx rt!

>>101998480
see >>101997042

>>101998492
What case? Seems really shallow

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how do you guys even afford this shit?

like I have the money, but it's still basically the biggest expense after a car and home.

a 1080p setup is like $800-$1,000

1440p is like $1,400 or something

4k is like $2,500

OLED adds an extra $400-$800

fucks sake

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>watching a retard kill his cpu in real time
i've never been more entertained

>>101998571
Formula Air Mesh G1.

It's cheap and small so it doesn't take up half my desk, but yeah, there's very little space on the back for the wires, so you can't really cable manage much.

Maybe I'll get a modular PSU in the future so I can just not plug in the wires cables I don't need. Those are a bit too pricey for me sadly.

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>>101996978
>typical nvidia tricks but modern.
Or you could just admit Radeon's low RT performance.

>>101996772
>Avoid 12th gen Intel
>Use a contact frame
Unnecessary, this is just AMDfriend FUD. 13th and 14th have problems with instability

>>101998166
RT is massively more stable while moving

>>101998430
cope level: AMD

>>101998377
Video was already posted beforehand you drooling retard. And what you're criticizing on the other thread and accusing of Nvidia is actually about AMD. Because you (apparently?) forgot which side you were supposed to defend. Lmao even.
>>101998435
>>101998736

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>>101998749
12th gen just warps more than a wet plank of wood left in the sun lol

>>101998648
Damn, and I thought my Lian Li 170M was small.
That thing couldn't even fit most modern GPUs.

>>101998480
I understand but I prefer 1080p.

How important are expensive motherboards, 150 dollars +. I have always bought cheap motherboards, like 50 - 70 dollars, e.g. recent of a cheap board would be a A620M board. I don't overclock or anything like that. What benefit do I get paying for B650 board over a B620. Thanks.

>>101998515
but its literally shadows, it isnt a black blob. it only ever appears so if you capture the still image of the video. if you let the video run you can clearly see texture on the rock. the shadows rtx produces are darker, so the rock covered in shadows also appears darker. but as the video runs you literally see it being textured. this is ultimate retardation. go look at an object in the shadows idiot

>>101998925
the rtx shadows are too dark it's a bug bro. you should see the real world more often and not just on photos.

>>101998621
I can afford too but I don't buy new shit since I don't need them. I just shitpost here to scam retards into buying overly expensive shit that doesn't even fit. it was fun.

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I'm going to upgrade by DDR4 R3600 pc in September. This is what I've picked out. I mostly want to use it for gaymin. Is there anything I can save money on?
I currently have a 7800 xt (which I won't be upgrading) and a 550w Corsair Gold PSU.

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>>101998893
Based. Been running 1080p for nearly 30 years now. Never ever "upgrading" again.

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4090 is already falling so behind in frames. can't wait for the 5090

>>101998621
Nigga I'm still on a Zen 1 machine I built 7 years ago, major change was a GPU upgrade 3 years ago because of a 4k monitor I bought using the company's money as home office expense. You don't buy everything at once, my next upgrade will be changing the platform which will be expensive yeah but again nothing will be bought at the same time, current system is still working after all.

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>>101998950
nigga what? shadows have different levels of darkness, depending on the angle and where they are situated. the shadows look realistic on the rtx side. unlike you i actually go outside of my house and dont need to base the logic of shadows on what i have seen in other video games. i know it is hard to grasp how things work outside of your moms basement. the amd shadows are quite literally baked in. there are scenes where amd doesnt even generate any shadows.
apparently shadows in picrel arent real and are ai generated i guess, because theyre too dark for what you personally are used to seeing in video games. actually braindead.

>>101998902
You can look up the specs yourself but basically motherboards have inflated a lot of late. What $70 would have gotten you in 2019 is now $100+.
On the other hand, with a few exceptions, the "cheap" marques are now generally good so you don't have to pay $200 for a Strix/Carbon/Aorus/etc. - a Prime/HDV/DS3H is enough for 99% of gaming builds. Of course those are still over $100 so you're not exactly winning either.

>>101999015
1- it's a photo not the real world(i know camera vs human eye is hard for you to understand)
2 it's not the same time of the day
3- the rock looks out of place in the river screenshot

>>101999069
delusion levels: amd

>>101999077
you're a terminal retard watching every bug coming out of nvidia cards as features. congrats you're a consoomer in a fucking cult

>>101998969
Can I see this video?

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>>101999015
picrel, it's not a bug, the way nvidia is getting fast rt times is just by skipping work.

>>101999131
https://youtu.be/PjbEdWF1e-I?si=nXtoaht6cir8CLIj&t=23

>>101998967
bump

>>101998967
>>101999160
If you're not upgrading your GPU, save your money and just get a 5800X3D

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>>101998995
>with no dlss or frame gen
>lets gimp nvidia and lamao about it

>>101999015
>shadows have different levels of darkness
It's not just that, it's the stability of the image. With software Lumen and baked shadows, there's tons of pop in and aliasing. RT is the only way to get a stable image.

>>101999159
Very comfy ty. What does it mean to unify the way all of their surfaces and lights interact?

>>101999149
watch the video retard. there are no bugs. the shadows are just darker because they are not baked in like on amd

>>101999213
Why? I'll upgrade the GPU later.

i am so fucking glad i didnt buy a intel shit cpu. never had a single crash or issue with my 7950x

>>101999339
Not worth it. A 5800X3D bottlenecks nothing. If you're on AM4, there's absolutely no reason to go to AM5.

>>101999104
the thing is tho there arent any bugs in the gameplay footage you mouthbreathing virgin. you amdfags have literally a cult like need to defend your shit cards. probably because youre poorfags and spent your last 6 month savings on a pisslow gpu

>>101999354
>A 5800X3D bottlenecks nothing
I'm cpu bound even at 4k playing far cry 3 and 4 on a 5800x3d when paired with a 7900xtx.

>>101999389
>you mouthbreathing virgin
>projecting so hard
when they fix it in a next driver/game update you will look retarded

>>101999425
...and theyre going to fix exactly what? not having baked in shadows like amd? so fake raytracing like amd does?
maybe in next update they will also 0.3x the fpx 4090 produces so its on par with the dogshit that amd produces

>>101999455
the shadows are the exact fucking same except for darkness you blind retard

>>101999354
bottlenecks are hard to understand, and he doesn't understand.

anon:
think of a game like a hungry fat guy.

He wants meat (cpu). But he also wants beer (gpu). If you fail to have enough beer, he just waits until you bring more beer. But once he has enough beer, if you fail to bring enough meat, he doesn't drink much beer until you bring meat.

Thus, you may have plenty of meat for the fat guy, but not enough beer, this is your case.

I had the opposite case when I had an AMD cpu of yore (forget which), and a Voodoo 2 card. In this situation, I didn't really benefit from the videocard. I would have been better off upgrading gpu and cpu, in a balance.

I have Gigabyte B550 GAMING X V2 MOBO. Currently having 4x8GB RAM DDR4 but looking for upgrade as I just noticed that my pagefile.sys is 20GB big.

Any recs on brands of what memory should I get?

>>101999394
No shit, those are 10+ year old games

>>101999394
>playing games that can only use a single core at 4K
ISHYGDDT

I bought a refurbished GPU to replace my old one and while it seems to work fine (everything that is supposed to light up lights up and fans are spinning) when I installed it I couldn't get my monitor to work.
I tried plugging the monitor in to my motherboard's HDMI slot and it still didn't work. This remained true when I removed the card entirely so the only display option would have been the integrated GPU. Monitor runs fine on the old GPU when I switched it back in.

I'm prepared to contact the seller and raise a stink but I wanted to confirm that it's not a problem on my end/with my monitor first. What should I be doing to troubleshoot?

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>>101999467
>amd cultist unironically believes the picture on the left looks better than the picture on the right
this is a goldmine

>>101999514
yes it does. the one on the right is black crushed

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>>101999538
cope and delusion levels: amd cultist
also wtf are those rays coming from sky on nvidia side. hopefully another bug that will soon get fixed! this definitely does not occur in real life, in which i participate a lot

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>>101999514
This is an irl forest. Left is closer desu senpai. Nvidia lost

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>>101999550
LOOK MA I APPLIED RAY RECONSTRUCTION

>nvidia applies a mordor filter to the game

>>101999566
that is the only irl forest that ever exists, and that singular irl forest will only have the same lighting that this picture has

>>101999591
left one actually has color now, made a better job than amd

>>101999610
you can do that in-game retard

>>101999621
that wasnt the point you actual drooling retard. and the fact you say you can darken amd ingame, and not apply the same logic to nvidia and lighten the game says how much of a fucking retard you quite literally are

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Will rtx 5070 be good upgrade for rtx 3070?

>>101999550
Right made the mountain a grey blob. On the left we can clearly still see the textures. Guess this round goes to AMD.

>>101999638
the AMD one looks natural not the novideo one.
novideofag don't knwo about brightness settings no wonder they buy overpriced shit they never even use.
a few posts earlier you were bragging about additional shadows but you never know what the fuck you're talking about you corn syrup bibendum

>>101999354
I want to go to DDR5 doe (i must consoom)

>>101999641
Just performance wise the RTX 4070 is as powerful as the 3090, and the 3070 was as powerful as the most powerful 20 series card. Just going by that we can hope that the 5070 is as powerful as the 4090. 3090 used to cost $2k, and the 4070 $529. So one could hope that the 5070 would be as powerful as the 4090, but that probably wont matter for new games as even the 4090 currently doesn't perform as well as it could and should, being it is THE most powerful consumer/enthusiast grade GPU you can buy.

>>101999566
I'm 100% not a single game dev has actually been in the woods. They always, always put just regular ass grass growing everywhere.

>>101999651
the levels of retardation in your reply are so severe that i cant even bother spending time trying to reply. because you are on that premium hopium and copium. enjoy the 30 fps with your $1000+ card lmao

>>101996710
>be 30 year old boomer
>didn't know stock cards have better cooling than aftermarket nowadays, back in the day it was always the other way around
>4070 super comes out
>rushed to grab whatever aftermarket they had on that morning, when I could have gotten one straight from nvidia at the same price or even better
>months later, first time actually using it
>the most insane coil whine ever, goes *clack clack clack clack* under heat

>>101999744
>>>the most insane coil whine ever,
lol which make

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>>101999514
Well, "looks better" is obviously a personal choice, but while AMD has more REALISTIC rt, the Wutang Klan game looks better without rt. An area where this is especially obvious is in the shadow areas.

I am a photographer. I study shadows.

>>101999514
This is seconds later (this area he does not show in non-rt):
picrel, Hercule Perot and the Vanishing Tree

>>101999767
msi "ventus"
this card is half as heavy with smaller fans than my previous (respectable) MSI 1080 despite drawing 2x the power probably, really fishy stuff

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Why is this allowed?

>>101999865
i think that's cool, both are shit CPUs

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>>101998382
Tried it and it still happened, but it looks like it's only one of the DIMMs. Might just leave it running on the good one. Not like anything ever needs more than 16GB anyway.

>>101999744
some guy on reddit had the same issue with it
>Got the MSI Ventus 2x White last week, which was dead silent at first. Then, I don't know why, but it got EXTREMELY loud after the weekend...More than a slight buzz, the card sounds like an old HDD with clicking noises
you may want to check if the fans have proper clearance

>>101999865
smaller cpu = faster cpu

>>101999932
link please? it's probably not the fans. As soon as I pause the game the noise stops, as soon as I unpause it starts again. if it were fans it wouldn't stop and start instantly.
my only play is increasing airflow which i admit i turned way down, other than that I think the card is a piece of shit with bad cooling

>>101998967
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
bump

>>101998967
You could get a cheaper board. Like, why do people even need ATX when they're just gaymin?
Micro-ATX is good enough. And it runs lower on power so you can get a 750W PSU instead of an 850w.
Nice RAM though. It's what I use except white.

>>101998967
I heard those new SN5000 NVMEs are really good

Bring back the motherfucking PCI-e x1 slots you fuckers

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>>102000058
Better?

>>102000143
I've never had a non corsair psu before and feel a bit skeptical of not paying extra for 1 btw

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Im a poorfag that currently has a 1060. My options for something newer are limited to $150 and less. My choices are:
A580
Gtx 1080
Rtx 2060
Rx 5600 xt
Rx 5700 xt
Rx 6600

Which one /pcbg/?

>>102000152
5700XT

>>102000152
I'd give you my 6700xt for £150 if you lived in the UK.

>>102000143
Better. Now that you have a smaller motherboard you could get a smaller case. But going too small and it actually becomes more expensive.
So my criteria for 'good' cases is that if they come with fans. I don't remember if the H5 came with any.
So remember, 70 for the case and around ~9 per case fan. So if you're going to buy 4 case fans you could just get a 100 case and no fan rather than your case and buy extra fans.

>>102000152
6600, no question

>>102000181
What's a smaller case than this for less? I already consider this small

>>102000193
Eh, yeah, I guess. mid Tower is a mice middle ground. LanCool 216 comes with 3 fans which is nice. No idea the price on that in your area though.

>>102000221
Only 20 more

>Tfw AMD GPU
>Have to continue to wait for 24.8.1 drivers to play Wukong
>Still not out
Why the fuck don't they release them already fuck sake.

>>102000152
>>Rx 6600
you really should see if you can scrape another $40 together from somewhere

>>102000304
Is this just for graphics? The game sounds literally retarded.

>>102000193
>>102000143
for the love of god dont get a gigabyte psu
also don't troll yourself, pay the tiny bit extra for the peerless assassin instead, x3d chips run hot

>>102000330
24.8.1 Is the AMD "Game Ready" Wukong drivers.

And still not out.

>>102000152
$150 is just a horrible horrible price point for GPUs. Find an extra $50 and go find something in the $200 range used. Do not spend $150 you will regret it for $200 you can get so much more. Way more sellers are willing to accept $200 on hardware that was worth a lot more than at launch and you can even barter them down to $190 or $180 at times. Most refuse to take $150 and only put ancient worthless bottom of the barrel trash in that tier.

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>>102000143 don't listen to >>102000338. Get picrel for your cooler. Get picrel, Noctua NH-P1.

>>102000343
Why play it, it's giant monkeys, are you mentally retarded?

>>102000338
>for the love of god dont get a gigabyte psu
Why not? What's an alternative?

I'm looking to buy more RAM. I have a B450 Tomahawk Max and it says it's max compatible speed was 3466 MHz. My current RAM has a max speed of 3600.

I was looking to keep the same speed because I read if you're CPU is Ryzen 3000 or higher, I have a 5800X, you're good to use 3600. Is that correct or am I just wasting RAM speed?

>>101999514
YouTube compression.

>>102000548
Compression can't explain the case of invidia's vanishing tree:
>>101999816

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>>102000453
Max supported ram speed is a minefield depending on number of dimms, ranks per dimm, cpu lottery and even bios updates. If you are adding a second kit to the existing one you are adding even more factors as two kits mighth ave the same primary timings but have different secondary (and to say nothing of any difference in voltage needs). There is no real tl;dr beyond fucking around and seeing what sticks.

>>101999901
>running a single DIMM
holy retard

>>102000453
My rule of thumb when wanting more RAM. Replace your old kit with bigger kits to keep to keep the speed.
OR
Buy a 2nd kit, the same one and hope it's compatible by lowering the speed of the ram. 90% of the time you will never reach the advertised speeds of the RAM with 4 sticks.

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>>102000343
you dont need wukong drivers.

>>102000453
NTA but I'm looking to buy RAM too.
Can I mix my RAM with a16GB and a 32GB and populate all 4 slots?

>>102000453
Google you lazy tard
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK-max/Specification

>>102000780
lol
no

>>102000806
I already looked through that you fuckin jackass. If you kept reading you would've seen that I read in a random forum, even though it's past its compatibility speeds if your CPU can handle it you're fine with the faster speeds, which I came here to see if that was true.

>>102000780
You can, but shouldn't unless you really want to play with stability testing.

>>102000875
If you read the link you dipshit, you'd see MSIs website says up to 4133. You gonna trust a bunch of retards on a forum, or the manufacturer? I swear to God half you people itt have the IQ of a fucking rock.

Is it bad if the nvme heatsink is in contact with the northbridge?

>>102001052
Very bad. DO NOT DO IT.

>>102001101
Why

>>102001001
>You gonna trust a bunch of retards on a forum, or the manufacturer? I swear to God
You gonna trust a guy who swears to god, and believes CNN, or me, a guy who literally saw a toad pee two days ago?

Apparently reading the QVL is an impossible challenge for not one, but TWO anons.

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>>102000152
The RX 5000 cards are non-starters because they're complete garbage. Massive unfixed driver and stability issues, lack of DX12 Ultimate support (incl mesh shaders), and lack of XeSS support

>>102000143
What is a better case that I can get than this for a similar price range?

>>102000152
Get the newest card you can get and save some extra for a 6700xt at least

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Ok neggers, I made an upgrade, still need a case

>>102001252
Gotcha, thanks. Best advice so far.
>>102001298
I'm going to try, but I probably won't be able to.

>>102001328
Look on ebay

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Should i risk it for the biscuit?
Will a Chinese man steal my kidney after ordering this?

What's a good price-to-performance budget? $1,400?

>>102001445
this motherboard has a 50% chance of having absolutely shockingly loud coil whine

>>102001357
I have been for the last couple of weeks. I'm very tempted to get an Arc a580 for the av1 encoding.

>>102001445
Great return policy for dead on arrival hardware

>>102001325
That SSD is a ripoff.

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>>102001445
good luck

>>102001535
Why?

>>102001542
>30 day refund
>Ships from china
>Takes 31 days to arrive
>????
>Profit

>>102001568
even a 2TB SN770 can be had for £100 on amazon

>>102000453
there's 0% chance your new kit is going to be compatible with your old kit unless you know what you're doing
>>102000780
no, using different sizes is almost as slow as using one stick

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Is seagate safe? I've heard a lot of bad things about them but I can't find any real competitors for HDDs

>>102001001
>or the manufacturer?
Neither because I'm a boomer and it was always known speed ratings on mobos are bullshit.
They are always going to give you the highest number they possibly can, regardless of if it's practical.

>>101996710
qrd on why the psu tier list was removed?

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>>102000152
Of those, you should be choosing between the 2060 and the 6600, but I would only get the RX 6600 if you can find it for the price of the 2060, except new. The RX 6600 has x8 PCIe lanes, which will be complete shit in a lot of games, as more and more games start to actually need around 8 GB VRAM and Radeon massively struggles with memory management.

>>102000764
>fsr
Good god I'm glad I don't have Radeon

>>102001451
Yes, with another $300 for monitor
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VvV86D

>>102001833
Complete garbage
But if you want to protect your data, you'll need redundancy anyway, in which case cheap disks are fine

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I used to have an office logitec m+kb that then crapped out after a decade of use, and so I bought some "gamer" m+kb on a discount since I couldn't find my original model.
Well this new mouse and keyboard is a piece of garbage that double clicks, gives roller wheel inputs while clicking, gives backspace inputs while clicking, and changes my dpi settings while clicking.

And so I'm looking for yet another replacement. Someone who is more savvy than I am when it comes to mouse and keyboard makers please tell me what brands to look at/what brands to avoid.

>>102002003
there are dedicated threads for both and what you want depends on your budget, desired application and location. a lot of gamer brands are shit but at least they try to improve their products, unlike the office brands that just shit out the same garbage for decades. i like my cheap razer mouse, just works and never had a reason to switch. for keyboards there are some really good high end korean / japanese brands that are top tier for both typing and gaming. in the west at medium budget keychron seems to be quite popular. low budget you will get shit

>>102002003
Avoid anything Logitech. Every single mouse they make in the past 10-15 years double clicks. Garbage products.

>>101997264
Why is RAM getting so gay, bros? DDR3 was sturdy as a truck. You could toss your turned on computer WWE style from one side to the room to the other and it would keep running. You could mix random sticks from different brands and with different capacities, speeds and voltage and they would run perfectly fine. Now with DDR5 it's even worse. Even if every spec is exactly the same, they may not work well together if you don't get them as a bundle. What the fuck went wrong with RAM technology?

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>>102002216
Conspiracy: They're trying to convince everyone that soldered memory is better so that in the future it's impossible to buy a product with upgradable memory and they can charge out the ass for it.

>>102002216
>You could mix random sticks from different brands and with different capacities, speeds and voltage and they would run perfectly fine
lol no you couldn't, not with high-speed DDR3
same thing with high-speed DDR4
same thing with high-speed DDR5
you don't know what you're talking about because you only buy shit-tier JEDEC RAM

any gpu manufacturers i should generally avoid altogether or are they all shit in their own way

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So I tasted thermal paste, it was some shin-etsu microsi I nabbed from my job
It really taste like nothing, consistency was kinda like gum, you could roll it around with your tongue
More investigation is required

The ASRock's B650M-HDV/M.2, which people seem to agree is the best value AM5 board, is out of stock in my country. What is the best alternative to it?

>>102002216
Ram speeds went up by 4-8x which caused the acceptable error margins to reduce by 4-8x

>>102002293
>you don't know what you're talking about because you only buy shit-tier JEDEC RAM
Maybe, but my random sticks from 2009 are still running just fine.

>>102002323
yeah and so is 99% of the DDR4 that was bought since 2014
we'll see with DDR5 but personally i wouldn't worry about it

>>102002293
>buy shit-tier JEDEC RAM
>Implying you somehow need more
IDK how the Taiwanese DIMM vendors convinced absolutely everyone you needed overclocked RAM in the last decade
Only people who already have a high end CPU and GPU should really be concerned.

>>102002346
i can tell your PC is stuttering with every keystroke

>>102002311
Pro RS

>>102002364
My PC runs fine
IDK what propaganda you've been fed
Or are we this braindead to think higher number always better and each component exists in a vacuum and bottlenecks don't exist elsewhere

running DDR4-2400 here absolutely no problemas

>>102002404
unless you have a celeron your CPU is always bottlenecked by memory
your CPU can process far more instructions than the memory can feed it
>>102002437
you can get a 3600C16 kit for $45
you'll thank me later

>>102001833
Buy new/used enterprise discs instead. Seagate in that regard is actually pretty reputable.

>>102002468
>unless you have a celeron your CPU is always bottlenecked by memory
Yeah, because an i5 with a 4070 is totally gonna be dead with random 5600mhz jedec

>>102002549
in 1% lows? absolutely
JEDEC should be reserved for servers and huge memory capacities (>128GB)

>>102001833
If you're only buying 4TB or lower just get it all in NVME

reposting for effect
>You will never win this. People here have accepted, as normal, multi-millisecond delay on everything they do.

>>102002592
When your already bottlenecked by the GPU?
lol
Lmao even

>>102002642
now we're introducing a completely different condition
but yes, even when bottlenecked by the GPU, because all new games have shader compile stutters and that's improved by faster CPU/RAM combinations

>>102002549
DDR5 is the best case scenario for JEDEC since they have double addressable banks and burst length along with their high transfer rates
Use single rank 2666-3200 JEDEC on a 9th/10th gen intel or zen2/3 and you'll be in bottleneck city

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>The first production DDR5 DRAM chip was officially launched by SK Hynix on October 6, 2020.

Has DDR5 been a success?

>>102002880
yes but only the sk hynix chips lmao
samsung and micron DDR5 is still fucking embarrassing

Do you guys buy those extended warranty plans for your computer parts?

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>>101996710
Fixed

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>>102000390
>i-it duh-duh-duh-doesn't muh-muh-muh-matter
>muh-muh-monke guh-guh-guhame duh-duh-duh-doesn't muh-muh-muh-matter
>a-a-a-amd can be luh-luh-luh-late if it wuh-wuh-wuh-wants

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I've never built a PC before and I'm trying to make a nice mid-range one for my work as well as games
How does this look? Especially the motherboard, I know the least about those. Also do I need dedicated fans for the case or are the ones it comes with probably good enough?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4h7bBL

>>102003134
Oh also I'm worried about the "Some physical constraints are not checked, such as RAM clearance with CPU Coolers". Would that be a problem? I tried to get a big case to be safe

>>102003134
>Corsair branded RGB RAM
Literally the worst kind. Enjoy having their bloatware on your PC just to turn that shit off or change colors.
>spinning rust
the fuck you need an HDD for in 2025? Only time you should EVER use HDD is if you have proper backups and redundancy. They don't last long.
>Shift PSU
I have the same case. I HAD the same PSU. I returned it since it did not fit the case.
As for RAM clearances you can't really know unless you try it.
Check the Lian Li Lancool 3 page. It will tell you the max height of the cooler. Then check your CPU cooler page and see the max height and see if it fits.
This also kinda works for the GPU too if you want to check if it can fit. Just add and extra 15mm or so for the cable sticking out.

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>>101996400
Well the kryosheet can never pump out. I've seen people saying their PTM still eventually got a bald spot but they probably got fake shit.
As far as performance, it falls in line with pastes. If it slips when you're putting the heatsink on you'll know, though, as seen in this TPU review.
They are conductive, so kapton tape might be good to put around the die if you're not confident. But supposedly recent batches started putting a thin layer of oil to give some adhesion.

>>102003134
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2c7bBL
I changed some stuff here. Cooler is not needed as the non-X ryzens ship with a stock cooler
A lot of money is wasted on that case

>>102003134
>>102003294
The LanCool RGB and non-RGB version have different fan speeds by the way. The non RGB fans can reach faster RPM while the RGB fans can't.
Get the non-RGB one if you want a slightly cooler temp at max load.

>>102003272
>Literally the worst kind. Enjoy having their bloatware on your PC just to turn that shit off or change colors.
Just use Openrgb or any other open source rgb program?

>>102003272
>the fuck you need an HDD for
I have to store a lot of stuff. honestly i've nearly maxed out my current 3tb hdd that i have
>I have the same case. I HAD the same PSU. I returned it since it did not fit the case.
Oh, I thought it'd fit, the site usually gives a warning for that.
>>102003294
>A lot of money is wasted on that case
Yeah you're probably right I think I just went for it cause it looked "fancy", thanks for making some tweaks, I'll take a look at those

I guess I have to take a closer look at the PSU then. That one seems like a good case but I'll make sure it'll fit this PSU

Does anyone have a recommendation for a Micro ATX case that is cheap and sturdy. I don't care about a window and I'd honestly prefer one without one. Kinda looking for more of an office computer look than a gaming pc look.

>>102003427
try to find one with a 120mm rear fan and good cooler clearance

>>102003384
Haven't checked in a while, but does it support Corsair RAM now?

>>102003402
If you care about that data then you would buy 2 more HDDs and clone them. If you don't care about the data then go ahead.
I seriously do not recommend a single HDD if you value whats inside there.
Corsair's Shift PSU just means the cables are at the side. Normal PSU is behind the power switch.

>>102003439
I like the Asus AP201 I'll go with that thank you

Who pays $600 for 12gb vram?

>>102003515
Oh so would the RM850x non-shift work without much issue then?
(I thought shift was just a buzzword for it being a superior model, I'm really trying my hardest to understand this stuff)

>>102003631
>she didnt pay $1200 for 11gb vram

>>102003631
Maxwell Titan had 12 GB for 1000 dollars in 2015.

How fast is OLED pixel rot happening or is it older generation issue? I'd like it to last 5 years. Don't mistake it with burn in.
Personally haven't heard of it since early OLED phones.

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>>102003638
Yes. I have the same model.
Left one is the normal PSU. Right is the Shift PSU. The Lian Li case, and a lot of cases have the PSU in some kind of enclosure which means it cannot plug in the cables at the side.
You see this a lot with Corsair parts. They make little weird shit that are not standard so you're kind of stuck buying their stuff to make their stuff to work. like their fan hubs, only works with Corsair fans. Their RGB also are only controlled with Corsair software.
Kinda gay which is why I never recommend buying Corsair parts other than their PSU.

So on my 13700K I'm thermal throttling in Cinebench R23, my AIO is mounted fine because I don't throttle doing anything else. I'm on an MSI Z690 PRO A WIFI DDR5 board and I'm running the newest BIOS they just pushed today, the non beta BIOS with 0x129. I've applied an undervolt of -.05V offset to my VID, I didn't apply an offset to my E-cores, should I also? Also, someone mentioned that I should change my AC/DC Loadline if I'm experiencing temp issues. It's currently at the default 1.1 mOhms (A/C and D/C I know they both beed to match), but I don't really understand how it works. I tried dropping that to 1 mOhms and while that fixed my temps it killed my score by almost 2000 points. It's back at default now and I'm scoring around 3000 which is about what I should be getting. Any advice?

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So, uh, going by arguing above, AMD makes better RT DXR hardware? Color me surprised.

>>102003577
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8sXLkJ

I'm upgrading from my old 2014 i7 as well as getting a new case. This should be much faster in every regard correct? I also saw that the Ryzen 5 7600 comes with a cooler so I was just going to use the stock one for a while.

>>102003728
Nice parts.
consider buying a new power supply, 10 years is a long time.

>>102003033
you made it worse

>>101999901
Running just one module will slash performance by about 30%. If you want to cheap out, at least buy another module with the same specs - both speed and size

>>102002311
>ALC897
But why? At least get the MSI Mortar which has ALC 4080. Or if you insist on asrock and dont mind Atx the B650 Steel legend is also great with ALC 4082

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>>102003427
lian li A3-mATX for 69.99$

>>102000780
You can with a caveat that you need to populate slots in pairs. So first a pair of 16g then 32g or vice versa. Also, you likely won't get full speed across four modules. Ddr5 especially gets ravaged in 4 slot config.

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just benchmarked fx-8350 vs i5-4590
the fx is down 30% in unigine heaven which is just a graphical benchmark!

>>102003804
can you stop being poor

>>102003787
How come matx cases dont come with included fans?

>>102003819
No I love it. I use a $90 ryzen 5 5500 and I am happy

>>102003838
>i love being poor

>>102003854
Problem?

>>102003757
*better

>>102003778
>MSI Mortar
Also out of stock in my country, and when it was in stock they sold it for like 240 dollars. I'm a poorfag, anon.

>5500X3D is real

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i wish there's more case like this where there is no side fans

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Is the Ryzen 7 7700 really worth it over the Ryzen 5 7600?
It seems like a pretty small difference for an extra hundred bucks

>>102003976
if you want price/perf ryzen 7000 aint it

Is 1440p worth it bros?
I have been using 1080p on an old LG TV for years now and I'm thinking of getting an actual monitor. Is it better to get a high end 1080p monitor or a mid-low range 1440p monitor?

>>102004001
yes if you are poor, it's worth it
no, if you can afford 4k

>>102003976
8c quality of life is better, I know because I was on 6 cores for 6 years, and isn't difference between 7600 and 7700 like $50?

>>101999705
>Just going by that we can hope that the 5070 is as powerful as the 4090
Unlikely. AMD isn't pushing the envelope in raw perf next gen and nvidia has indicated they want to get thermals under control. The 5090 will still probably be insanely powerful but I expect midrange to be much more modest with the 5070 probably being on par with a 4080S while consuming far less power.

>>102003976
you also get the far superior wraith prism instead of wraith stealth that comes with the 7600
its not too bad a deal but you'd be encroaching on 7800x3d territory as its only $80 more expensive

>>102003976
Here it's 20% more expensive but you get 33% more cores

>>102004033
>AMD isn't pushing the envelope in raw perf next gen
They are aiming at mid range though, so fingers crossed they pull a polaris 2 for us.

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>>102003976
no, not even a good value in applications

>14900K still slower than 5800X3D
grim

>>102004020
If only it is. NTA but in my country 7700 cost 50% more

>>102004063
now do chart that shows the amount of shame for being corelet

When can i start preordering rtx 5090?

>>102004103
Negative shame since you didn't fall for the moar cores meme

>>101996710
>irerelevant weeb decorations
faggot

>>102004187
>nooooo you can't just enjoy building your pc the way you want. you have to HAVE TO make it look like another souless metal box

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>>102003838
Based

>>101997841
>>101997042

imagine being so assblasted you draw pics like these

>>102004206
>your comment offended me I must write an essay that nobod will read
faggot

>>102004063
>no 1700x
>no 3800x
NGMI

>>102004278
both are on there
See 3700X and 2700X

79xtx comes tomorrow cant wait to get a quest 3

>>102004307
>cant wait to get a quest 3
VR is a meme, unless you really know what you are doing, 90% of people who got it on hype never used it after first week

being poor is not a bad thing
being a black skinned intel fanboy nigger, however, is

>>102004379
Double that, my on-line racist.

Ultra 9 285K

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>>102004523
Ultra 9 285Krash

>>102004379
Based. Just put a 3800x in picrel few days ago.

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>>102004542
I may be poor AND slightly retarded

>>102004532
i dont get the hype around the game. all the attention around it feel so artificial.

>>102004571
I watched 1 minute of gameplay on youtube yesterday and it looked really cool

Wukong is just the first step
The AAA games market will be owned by the Chinese in 5 years

>>102004615
Westoids gave it away willingly.

Feel like I am going crazy looking for a monitor here, seems like you cannot find one under $600 that is not severely compromised in some way. I mostly care about contrast and colors without being terrible in some other way. Would just order the Q27G3XMN but i know the bad viewing angles would drive me crazy.

>>102004615
Who cares, chang? You literally live in a commie digital concentration labor camp.

>>102004673
>>102004673

>>101998967
>>102000143
>>102000449
Since only retards replied to you and no one answered this last question. I'm here to give you definitive recommendations with explanations. https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HVqfN6
>CPU
keep in mind seller is not from Amazon warehouse - perhaps get it from another seller
>Cooler
vastly better cooler for barely extra
>Motherboard
don't listen to these retards, I've selected the cheapest ATX board with solid VRMs. mATX boards with good VRMs cost more than this.
>RAM
CL30 RAM for better latency, feel free to pick between the two listed - RGB or non-RGB (£9 extra) - these are the cheapest best RAM available from local distributors, avoid Amazon international.
>Case
case comes with two more fans than the NZXT H5 flow and a fan controller for £10 less

These changes make for a better build and only cost you £30~ more.
Your original PSU was the best value for quality so I left that in, as for Gigabyte PSUs they are notoriously bad. The SSD is also a great shout so I left that as well, happy building.

>>102004561
Damn, I miss when GPUs weren't 340mm long.

>>102004561
if you don't clean that fuckign shit I swear to FSM

>>102004561
for the price of that noctua cooler+noctua fans you could've gotten a good case

>>101996710

had to bend the front panel to get my 6800 In the Nova Mesh

>>101999816
nvidiot vtfo

>>102004615
i won't play Black Meth Wu-Tang, no i just won't m'kay?

>>102004346
Ive used it on and off for Sims for 6yrs
Got a quest 2 for 150 bucks just now the newer more expensive sets are a meme